I'd rather we just walked away...Yarran will be bust at Richmond IMO.....one season wonder who's a bludger and a sook....unprofessional, not a defensive bone in his body, will be a liabilty ....especially if he's played down back....even up forward -with the combination of his & Vickery's defensive non- efforts we'll see sides just waltz back out of our attacking 50 with even more ease than they do now...
Agree on this.
People need to look closely at Yarrans career. even when hes had good games the following week he drops off the cliff. For a bloke who has been in the system so long the gap between his best and worst remains staggering.
Geez people complain about players who let us down in important games i can just see the angst whith Yarran. His inability to consistently stand up and get a bit of ball for himself when the heat is on is really poor.
You must be watching different games to me claw. I agree with you that this year he has not played good footy. Previously though he has been good. You must understand that he is not an inside player. He is a run and carry player. His role is to achieve high numbers of meters gained and to kick accurately once he has disposed of the ball. He does that well and is a weapon when up and going.
We need more run and he'll give us that. The question I have is whether the price we pay for this is just too high
He is from here WA. i would have been happy if we had picked him up in the nd. So i rated his potential. I have watched him as much as any non carlton supporter.
He has had good games but his good is very much mixed up with very poor. This has happened right thru his career.
His last season was not much different to his previous years.
My eyes say to me an outside player who is as soft as they come has little accountability is defensively poor and has little consistency my eyes tell me he also drops his bundle.
What i see is very much backed up by stats hence i am prepared to voice a very strong opinion against getting him with anything more than a second round pick.
Key stats for a run and carry player
Disposals - well he averages less than 15 a game. I would be wanting around 20 plus for the role he does. It is so low because he regularly does not get his hands on the ball.I havent done the breakdown but i would say he gets 20 disposals a game about 1/4 of the time. i would say he has had less than 15 disposals a game at least 1/3 of his games with the rest somewhere in between.
He will go out and have a 25 possesion game and then have a 10 possesion game the week after when a club puts work into him.
Tackles - he goes at 2.8 sometimes he uses his pace to run down opponents, when he does it looks great, but it is rare.He is either lazy or not fit when running without the ball.
R/B - Just 1.9 times a game on average this is what we are getting him for my god. Again he looks great when he does actually run and carry but it is not often he does it.
I/50s - Just 2.7 times a game on ave. Again this is what we are getting him for it does not add up.
Goals - Just 0.75 a game. I threw this in because people are talking about playing him forward a bloke who only chases when it suits. Thats the other side to the sml fwd role.
C/Ps - Just 4.4 a game.I throw this in because often you have to go and get the ball for yourself. this is the reason why he only ave 14 possesions a game. He is great when its all on his terms .
CLR - Just 0.4 a game. I include this stat because it is the domain of quick blokes like yarran where they get a ball on the fringes and break away from trouble, it rarely happens.
These are not the stats of an A grade player. Between his overall performances his attitude and his statistical data he is not worth a first round pick. They should be reserved for proven consistent top performers not a flash in the pan player who has huge consistency problems and is too outside.
Personally i believe we have the players to do the role who would be more accountable we just refuse to develop them in the role.
Connor Menadue and Kamdyn McIntosh coming off hb would solve a lot of problems imo.
I said he was a run and carry player.....
How about these for stats to supply my argument:
Ranked NUMBER 1 in the league in 2011 for bounces per game
Ranked NUMBER 1 in the league in 2011 for total bounces
Ranked NUMBER 4 in the league in 2012 for bounces per game
Ranked NUMBER 4 in the league in 2012 for total bounces
Ranked NUMBER 1 in the league in 2014 for bounces per game
Ranked NUMBER 1 in the league in 2014 for total bounces
I think this is the key stat for a run and carry player. They are not huge accumulators of the ball but give you that dash.
Thanks for listening.
He averages 2.8 bounces a game that would equate to one or two carries a game. And that is with little else consistently done well. Im shocked anyone would be prepared to offer up a first round pick based on nothing but a few bounces a game. It does show which no one is arguing with he does run and carry at times and looks all flashy doing in doing so and yes even bounces it is what sells people.
bounces
09 - ave 1.1
10- ave 2.1
11 - ave 5.3
12 - ave 3.0
13 - ave 1.9
14 - ave 3.1
15 - ave 1.5
total ave 2.8 just one outstanding year.
As i have constantly said people are sold by the razzle dazzle. They cant see there is little else to his game. Areas of the game that are more important than lol bouncing the ball.It is just great when he gets less than 15 possesions a game and does little else but wow he had 3 or 4 bounces.
Oh by the way thanks for listening.
