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Re: International Politics
« Reply #151 on: November 07, 2018, 12:49:03 PM »
Early counting in the US midterms

House of Reps:  R 40 - D 35  ... Democrats have gained three seats so far.
                                              (there's 435 seats all up and the Dems would need to gain 23+ seats
                                                to gain control the House).

Senate:  R 42 - D 31 ....... no change in seats so far
                                      (100 seats all up. Polls pointed to Republicans holding the Senate).

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/live/2018/nov/06/us-midterms-elections-2018-latest-live-polls-news-updates-donald-trump-republicans-democrats



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Re: International Politics
« Reply #152 on: November 07, 2018, 02:55:32 PM »
House of Reps:  R 139 - D 131  ... Democrats have gained 14 seats (need 23+).
                                                  Fox News projecting the Dems to win the House.

Senate:  R 50 - D 38 ...... Republicans have gained two seats.
                                      So they'll easily keep their Senate majority.

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/live/2018/nov/06/us-midterms-elections-2018-latest-live-polls-news-updates-donald-trump-republicans-democrats

The interesting thing is the further polarisation of the US vote. According to US media reports, moderates on both sides are apparently not doing well.
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Re: International Politics
« Reply #153 on: November 07, 2018, 03:35:26 PM »
Multiple US networks now projecting the Democrats to win the House. Republicans hold onto the Senate.

House of Reps:  R 155 - D 153  ... Democrats have gained 18 seats (need 23+).
                                                 
Senate:  R 50 - D 42 ...... Republicans have gained two seats. Already have the majority.

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/live/2018/nov/06/us-midterms-elections-2018-latest-live-polls-news-updates-donald-trump-republicans-democrats

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Re: International Politics
« Reply #154 on: November 09, 2018, 11:03:20 AM »
imagine losing to a dead candidate. and a brothel owning, god fearing one at that. by a landslide.

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2018-11-08/dead-pimp-dennis-hof-wins-seat-in-nevadas-state-parliament/10475946

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Re: International Politics
« Reply #155 on: November 09, 2018, 05:35:46 PM »
would be so funny if big man trump wins a second term.

The leftys wont know where to turn. I suppose he has already been impeached 2 years ago i their eyes




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Re: International Politics
« Reply #156 on: November 11, 2018, 05:57:34 PM »
The American system is very different to ours and the presidential vote is two years away so no one even knows who his Democrat opponent will be. So, of course Trump can still realistically win a second term. They also have voluntary voting so any result depends on how many supporters of either side are motivated to turn up to vote and their electoral college system means a presidential vote can be won without needing to win the popular vote. He won't care if more and more Californians and New Yorkers vote against him as they are already Democrat states. If Trump holds onto Florida, Ohio and Iowa in 2020 then he'll win again. Based on the midterm results that's a possibly in those states. Trump won't then care after that as long as the Republicans hold majority in the US Senate so he can't be impeached.
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Re: International Politics
« Reply #157 on: December 11, 2018, 04:50:56 PM »
What a mess Britain has got itself in over Brexit.

Mind you we can't really get up on our high horse and point the finger at other countries when it comes to self-inflicted dysfunctional governments.
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Re: International Politics
« Reply #158 on: December 11, 2018, 06:28:48 PM »
What a mess Britain has got itself in over Brexit.

Mind you we can't really get up on our high horse and point the finger at other countries when it comes to self-inflicted dysfunctional governments.

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Re: International Politics
« Reply #159 on: December 11, 2018, 09:35:50 PM »
Still hilariously ironic seeing the left so staunchly defending  the EU....that most capitalist, neo-conservative of creations that was designed to keep the wages of the working classes down..... :shh
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Re: International Politics
« Reply #160 on: December 12, 2018, 03:07:46 AM »
Yet the neo-conservative right hates the EU and want to break it up just as they hate the UN. If the left are viewed as globalists and the right as nationalists then each other's stance fits with these respective views.

The EU (and the EEC that preceded it) was born out of the idea of preventing another devastating European war based on nationalism. It also was seen as a means to unite Western Europe as a stronger economic block and in the NATO alliance with the USA against (Soviet) Russia and its satellite states behind the iron curtain. The old iron curtain is gone but Russia is still seen as a threat especially under Putin (eg: occupation of Crimea & its incursions into Ukraine).


As for Brexit: Of course it'll never happen but the re-unification of Ireland would solve the main sticking point of the NI border issue  :whistle  :outtahere.
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Re: International Politics
« Reply #161 on: December 12, 2018, 04:17:59 AM »
If you think neo-cons are in any way, shape or form "nationalists"......then you're as gullible as you are ignorant & misinformed... :shh
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Re: International Politics
« Reply #162 on: December 12, 2018, 12:54:37 PM »
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Re: International Politics
« Reply #163 on: December 12, 2018, 03:18:56 PM »
If you think neo-cons are in any way, shape or form "nationalists"......then you're as gullible as you are ignorant & misinformed... :shh
Not traditional pro-big business free trade neo-cons of the 80s/90s but the "populist" alt-right ones of today who oppose and want to leave or break up any supernational/global treaty or organisation (which they ridiculously call socialism). Laughable to deny Farage and Tory Brexiteers, Le Pen, Trump & especially his supporters, Putin, etc are not nationalists. 

Anyway, no deflection hides Britain being in a mess thanks to Brexit.
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Re: International Politics
« Reply #164 on: December 12, 2018, 03:56:30 PM »
The "right" isn't just one homogeneous mass with a a single set of beliefs....there's no "alt-right" or "populist" neo-cons.....they're nothing to do with the alt-right and are generally as opposed to them as the left are.....all the NeverTrump Republicans like McCain were/are neo-cons....hell Globalist anti-Nationalist poster boy Macron's a classic centre-right neo-con .....in fact the left are as often the unwitting shills and useful idiots of neo-cons as they are anyone... :shh


...and Britain is not a mess thanks to Brexit, the Conservative Party is...Britain will soon be a mess if that delusional Marxist halfwit Corbyn and his comrades and cohorts of dopey eternal undergraduates win the next election.. :shh :shh
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