Trade/FA rumours

[big tone]

Harfwit has the most say on players IMO.

The club is going down the 5hitta due to his stupidity and stubbornness.

The other 2 in charge are "yes"men just like the rest of Harwits coaching panel.

I'm afraid we will all have to go through a lot more hurt before anything is done about it.

If Richardson & Hartley are just "yes men" to Halfstep then neither of them are doing their job properly and are every bit as much to blame.

Yer agree. But Halfwit is choosing the player he wants IMO.

[one-eyed]

Chris Dawes' heart is set on playing on with Melbourne next season, but a few opposition clubs have signalled their interest in the uncontracted key forward in the event he departs the Demons.

http://www.afl.com.au/news/2016-08-24/clubs-keen-on-outofcontract-demon

Jack Trengove and Jack Grimes remain out of contract for next season after spending the bulk of the year in the VFL.

While the pair will meet with Goodwin early next week to discuss their futures, Trengove, 24, appears more likely to be retained for next season.

Grimes, 27, is expected to consider his options in October’s exchange period after only two senior games this year.

http://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/afl/melbourne-has-tough-calls-to-make-on-jack-grimes-and-jack-trengove/news-story/2baa437e4c13b520fff7f2ab7c7cf54a

[Harry]

Welcome Dawes.  Dawes and Cloke reunited.  It's a wonderful thing.  At Richmond we make dreams happen.

[wayne]

This is the same Trengove we were going to give pick 12 for?

1 year on and the Dees don't want him now?

[Dougeytherichmondfan]

This is the same Trengove we were going to give pick 12 for?

1 year on and the Dees don't want him now?

Wasn''t it the end of '14?

I think the Dees were keen to go ahead with the trade but we found out his foot is stuffed during his check up so we pulled out.

[Yeahright]

This is the same Trengove we were going to give pick 12 for?

1 year on and the Dees don't want him now?

Only because we found his foot issue

[Jonesracing82]

buggered if i know why we are re-signing anyone before trade period.... it's wiping out our currency 1 signature at a time

[potsclub]

First off season signing confirmed!!
Port has opted not to resign jay schulz.
Welcome back to tigerland!!!

[Penelope]

Harfwit has the most say on players IMO.

The club is going down the 5hitta due to his stupidity and stubbornness.

The other 2 in charge are "yes"men just like the rest of Harwits coaching panel.

I'm afraid we will all have to go through a lot more hurt before anything is done about it.

If Richardson & Hartley are just "yes men" to Halfstep then neither of them are doing their job properly and are every bit as much to blame.

Richardson is not more more than an administrator. That is his background, he has no footballing background, yet you seem to think he is sort of Graeme richmond type powerbroker over the football dept, in which case he should also be carrying the can for the game plan.

Ultimately the coach would have the final say on who goes and stays, Hartley would have a big say, but not the final, as well as a big say on length of contracts.

There is no way in the world that Richardson is telling these two ( and any others paid specifically to work in this field) what will and wont happen.

Ultimately Hartley and Hardwick should be the target of the hissy fits over contracts

[YellowandBlackBlood]

Harfwit has the most say on players IMO.

The club is going down the 5hitta due to his stupidity and stubbornness.

The other 2 in charge are "yes"men just like the rest of Harwits coaching panel.

I'm afraid we will all have to go through a lot more hurt before anything is done about it.

If Richardson & Hartley are just "yes men" to Halfstep then neither of them are doing their job properly and are every bit as much to blame.

Richardson is not more more than an administrator. That is his background, he has no footballing background, yet you seem to think he is sort of Graeme richmond type powerbroker over the football dept, in which case he should also be carrying the can for the game plan.

Ultimately the coach would have the final say on who goes and stays, Hartley would have a big say, but not the final, as well as a big say on length of contracts.

There is no way in the world that Richardson is telling these two ( and any others paid specifically to work in this field) what will and wont happen.

Ultimately Hartley and Hardwick should be the target of the hissy fits over contracts

Agree with this. Richardson works out the contracts. How to structure them and ultimately how they fit them into TPP. He does not pick the players. That is BH with input from DH.

[Hard Roar Tiger]

Harfwit has the most say on players IMO.

The club is going down the 5hitta due to his stupidity and stubbornness.

The other 2 in charge are "yes"men just like the rest of Harwits coaching panel.

I'm afraid we will all have to go through a lot more hurt before anything is done about it.

If Richardson & Hartley are just "yes men" to Halfstep then neither of them are doing their job properly and are every bit as much to blame.

Richardson is not more more than an administrator. That is his background, he has no footballing background, yet you seem to think he is sort of Graeme richmond type powerbroker over the football dept, in which case he should also be carrying the can for the game plan.

Ultimately the coach would have the final say on who goes and stays, Hartley would have a big say, but not the final, as well as a big say on length of contracts.

There is no way in the world that Richardson is telling these two ( and any others paid specifically to work in this field) what will and wont happen.

Ultimately Hartley and Hardwick should be the target of the hissy fits over contracts

Isn't Richardson the boss?

[Diocletian]

Which includes the length of contracts.....you both seem to be forgetting one crucial thing - players themselves & their managers are also involved in these decisions and Richardson's the one that handles those negotiatons, he may have input from others but the final offers are ultimately up to him. (Though I'm sure the likes of  Astbury, Grigg & Houli all know when they're on a good thing and didn't negotiate too hard.)

If you blokes seriously think that heads of football departments, don't, won't or can't override/veto list management decisions then you're kidding yourselves. The idea of the likes of Neil Balme just being rubber stamps....or that administrators are just there to follow the orders of their underlings, is laughable.

BTW Al...never blamed Richardson for everthing - said all along that him, Hartley, Halfstep & Hackson are all equally culpaple for the general state of the list.

Isn't Richardson the boss?

Yes he is -  people seem to be struggling with the definition.

[YellowandBlackBlood]

Which includes the length of contracts.....you both seem to be forgetting one crucial thing - players themselves & their managers are also involved in these decisions and Richardson's the one that handles those negotiatons, he may have input from others but the final offers are ultimately up to him. (Though I'm sure the likes of  Astbury, Grigg & Houli all know when they're on a good thing and didn't negotiate too hard.)

If you blokes seriously think that heads of football departments, don't, won't or can't override/veto list management decisions then you're kidding yourselves. The idea of the likes of Neil Balme just being rubber stamps....or that administrators are just there to follow the orders of their underlings, is laughable.

BTW Al...never blamed Richardson for everthing - said all along that him, Hartley, Halfstep & Hackson are all equally culpaple for the general state of the list.

Isn't Richardson the boss?

Yes he is -  people seem to be struggling with the definition.

BH is the boss of who we get. That is his job. Why would DR override the "guru"?
I agree that the terms of the contracts are DR's job but the crucial calls of who we get from other clubs come from BH.

[Diocletian]

Yes Hartley is the bloke who targets opposition players -  was his primary role when he first arrived - but Richardson would still ultimately decide what we offer them.

[Diocletian]

Still laughing at the thought of Neil Balme being our Footy Manager and Hartley & Halfstep telling him to extend Houli's contract, give Hamspud & Astbury two & three years respectively and Balmy just saying "yep ok, whatever you say, will do..."