Biggest sooky little babies?

[Dougeytherichmondfan]

Three weeks after the Grand Final and trade period just completed yet Kane Cornes is still sooking about us and our "disgraceful" fixture this year . Today he even added we should have been made to play West Coast and Brisbane at Marvel . Yeah Kane, good luck fitting the 70k crowd that turned up to the Brisbane game at Docklands   .

Hypocrisy at its finest. On the one hand, Cornes and every other SA demand that the GF should be a home game, played on a home ground for the higher finishing team and not the 'G every year.

They also whinge that interstate teams should get more games on the G, instead of having to play games in Tassie/Darwin/Ballarat/Marvel.

BUT lets write a rule specifically that says if the best team in the comp is an MCG tennant, they shouldn't be able to play home games on their home ground, but on neutral venues.

He is laughably bad. I know his schtick is to be "controversial" - but everyone and especially industry commentators just laugh (mostly behind his back but sometimes to his face) at how pathetic, reactionary and small town his takes are.

[mightytiges]

Vesty's bottom 5 premiers since 2000.

1: Tie (Richmond 2019 & Hawthorn 2015)

Too hard to split the obvious winners of this accolade. Richmond 2019 were a horrendous football team who were absolutely kissed on the **** in every way possible from the mid point of the season onwards. Once again they had nobody on the injury or suspension list come September and faced off against opponents who the afl and injury gods ensured were crippled. Even then it took bias umpiring and rule changes made to suit their game plan (6/6/6) and not leaving the G for the last 3 months of the season in order for them to get over the line.

2: Richmond 2017

One of the least talented premiership winning sides of all time. The side literally had Dustin Martin, Alex Rance and a bunch of absolute scrubbers who could chase and tackle. The AFL ensured the "fairy tale" ground breaker with strict instructions for the umpires to look after the Tigers at all opportunities throughout the final series and the AFL themselves ensured that the Tigers would never leave their cheat ground despite them finishing lower on the ladder than two of their opponents.

https://www.bigfooty.com/forum/threads/vestys-bottom-5-premiers-since-2000.1230275/page-3#post-63399528

If Geelong were given home finals would they have won the 14, 16, 17 & 19 flags comfortably.

I am convinced that 100% they would have won at least 3 of the above 4 flags. Let’s look at it more forensically however:

2014:
Geelong v North Melbourne. Would have been an absolute walk in the park for the cats as north were the 7th- 8th best side in it that year and we had smashed them convincingly throughout the year. Instead we are forced to play in their home city and they get over the line in a close one. Believe we would have gone on to belt Sydney and then had another crack against the hawks in the GF. Prognosis: 50% likelihood.

2016:
Qualifying final. Won by a kick against he hawks. Should have been a much easier game down at Kardinia. Prelim final: here is where we were really robbed. Had won 7 of 8 home games throughout the season and would have started unbackable favourites in this match. Absolutely no doubt in my mind we win this game and go on to demolish the dogs.

2017:
Had comprehensively smashed out direct opponent at Simmonds stadium a couple of weeks before finals and had a number of elite players returning to the side. Instead we play the side that finished 3rd in their cheat ground in front of their fans who bought our tickets in the ballot and with their home town umpiring decisions. Absolutely 100% certain if the game was at gmhba we win. Would go on to demolish our bunnies the giants and crows. 100% certainty

2019
Finished top and had to play 4th on their cheat ground then had to back it up with away game against the eagles and an away game against the 3rd placed side also in their cheat ground. Lost both our qualifying and prelim by a bees dick with some dodgy decisions and biased crowds. With an even run at it we would have been absolute morals to make the GF and belt up on the bye that was GWS in the grand final.

Overall I think it is safe to say at least 3 more flags would be in the coffers (probably 4) if the afl sorted out inequality of making us play away from home in finals

https://www.bigfooty.com/forum/threads/if-geelong-were-given-home-finals-would-they-have-won-the-14-16-17-19-flags-comfortably.1230813/

I'm surprised he didn't bring up 1967, 69 and 80 as well  .

[cub]

Vesty's bottom 5 premiers since 2000.

1: Tie (Richmond 2019 & Hawthorn 2015)

Too hard to split the obvious winners of this accolade. Richmond 2019 were a horrendous football team who were absolutely kissed on the **** in every way possible from the mid point of the season onwards. Once again they had nobody on the injury or suspension list come September and faced off against opponents who the afl and injury gods ensured were crippled. Even then it took bias umpiring and rule changes made to suit their game plan (6/6/6) and not leaving the G for the last 3 months of the season in order for them to get over the line.

2: Richmond 2017

One of the least talented premiership winning sides of all time. The side literally had Dustin Martin, Alex Rance and a bunch of absolute scrubbers who could chase and tackle. The AFL ensured the "fairy tale" ground breaker with strict instructions for the umpires to look after the Tigers at all opportunities throughout the final series and the AFL themselves ensured that the Tigers would never leave their cheat ground despite them finishing lower on the ladder than two of their opponents.

https://www.bigfooty.com/forum/threads/vestys-bottom-5-premiers-since-2000.1230275/page-3#post-63399528

If Geelong were given home finals would they have won the 14, 16, 17 & 19 flags comfortably.

I am convinced that 100% they would have won at least 3 of the above 4 flags. Let’s look at it more forensically however:

2014:
Geelong v North Melbourne. Would have been an absolute walk in the park for the cats as north were the 7th- 8th best side in it that year and we had smashed them convincingly throughout the year. Instead we are forced to play in their home city and they get over the line in a close one. Believe we would have gone on to belt Sydney and then had another crack against the hawks in the GF. Prognosis: 50% likelihood.

2016:
Qualifying final. Won by a kick against he hawks. Should have been a much easier game down at Kardinia. Prelim final: here is where we were really robbed. Had won 7 of 8 home games throughout the season and would have started unbackable favourites in this match. Absolutely no doubt in my mind we win this game and go on to demolish the dogs.

2017:
Had comprehensively smashed out direct opponent at Simmonds stadium a couple of weeks before finals and had a number of elite players returning to the side. Instead we play the side that finished 3rd in their cheat ground in front of their fans who bought our tickets in the ballot and with their home town umpiring decisions. Absolutely 100% certain if the game was at gmhba we win. Would go on to demolish our bunnies the giants and crows. 100% certainty

2019
Finished top and had to play 4th on their cheat ground then had to back it up with away game against the eagles and an away game against the 3rd placed side also in their cheat ground. Lost both our qualifying and prelim by a bees dick with some dodgy decisions and biased crowds. With an even run at it we would have been absolute morals to make the GF and belt up on the bye that was GWS in the grand final.

Overall I think it is safe to say at least 3 more flags would be in the coffers (probably 4) if the afl sorted out inequality of making us play away from home in finals

https://www.bigfooty.com/forum/threads/if-geelong-were-given-home-finals-would-they-have-won-the-14-16-17-19-flags-comfortably.1230813/

I'm surprised he didn't bring up 1967, 69 and 80 as well  .

This Vesty needs professional help
I knew we could do it  - 1 more and they will all be in the fetal position if they arent already

[Gracie]

2017 the free kick count was 17 to 15 our way. Hardly evidence of bias.

We kicked 13 goals to 5 with 7 goals to 1 in the final quarter.

Tough to make a case that Geelong should have won that one. They had their chance and wilted

[Chuck17]

Is Vesty Catman? You know the one who threw a tanty on camera in 2017.

[Dougeytherichmondfan]

I love the "comprehensively smashed" comment regarding out late season match up in 2017. My memory says the 14 point margin flattered them (albeit Selwood and Clangerfield didn't play).

Overall, that's 11/10 salt.

[mat073]

We lost Caddy early in that game and still had spuds like C. Ellis in the team.
Towner came in the following week and exploded.

[Darth Tiger]

I like this Vesty, probably still drinking the liquor burner coolant from the closed Point Henry Aluminium smelter.

[Darth Tiger]

Is Vesty Catman? You know the one who threw a tanty on camera in 2017.

https://au.sports.yahoo.com/catman-throws-epic-tantrum-after-taylor-hits-poster-37014644.html?guccounter=1&guce_referrer=aHR0cHM6Ly93d3cuZ29vZ2xlLmNvbS8&guce_referrer_sig=AQAAANF7orq5juwY-D-yEi8MQc6h0_-RAp1mM-KxI33IR6lxgVn-LgV12FCUtLcn35LLqNSQ3W3gSgSTQS-PNpxtJyEiOWMAsuzMPcJuZb0aSLJ04MTfaz9iFObR7llsIS7bsfcRL3d-wa1CK5ckzgWfduaRToXvC4_ixk0VZqohTnTF

[Chuck17]

Is Vesty Catman? You know the one who threw a tanty on camera in 2017.

https://au.sports.yahoo.com/catman-throws-epic-tantrum-after-taylor-hits-poster-37014644.html?guccounter=1&guce_referrer=aHR0cHM6Ly93d3cuZ29vZ2xlLmNvbS8&guce_referrer_sig=AQAAANF7orq5juwY-D-yEi8MQc6h0_-RAp1mM-KxI33IR6lxgVn-LgV12FCUtLcn35LLqNSQ3W3gSgSTQS-PNpxtJyEiOWMAsuzMPcJuZb0aSLJ04MTfaz9iFObR7llsIS7bsfcRL3d-wa1CK5ckzgWfduaRToXvC4_ixk0VZqohTnTF

Yeh that’s him

[Diocletian]

So for in order for us to be regarded as legitimate premiership side in the eyes of oppo flogs we need to somehow:

- play only 10 matches a year the MCG and win all our away games

- win every game by at least 10 goals but also by a kick to prove we can handle pressure (esp. the GF)

- lose every free kick count by 20

- don't recruit any more good players

- have half our list out injured or suspended including all our top players, while every opponent is at full-strength

- have our entire midfield and our rebounding defenders tagged every game

- fiinish undefeated minor premiers but also outside the top 4 and play all finals away inc the GF  but still beat Collingwood at some point

 Only then can we call ourselves true premiers....

[mightytiges]

continued ...

- All Richmond supporters to be banned from attending matches. Not fair they have the largest crowds.

- All Richmond memberships to be made null and void. Not fair they have the most members by far.

- Richmond to be banned from free agency, trade period as well as the National, rookie, supplementary preseason and midseason drafts as part of equalisation.

- Richmond's H/A season must be 22 straight interstate games to make the fixture fair.

- If Richmond still finish top then all finals played at a "neutral" venue like the Moon or Metricon where there's atmosphere.

- Dusty has to swap sides at half-time or whenever the opposition is trailing (whichever comes first) to make games fairer.

- If despite all that Richmond still win the premiership then they have to hand the cup over to the runners-up as clearly they must have gained an unknown and unheard advantage yet to be made up by bitter and jealous opposition supporters.

[Diocletian]

 

[Rampsation]

When the history books are written they will show the winners, the scores, the goalkickers, the best players and the crowd number. It will also show Richmond won its 12th Premiership in 2019. Everything else is worthless. Dont know why our supporters get into those debates on big footy. Theres no need.

[Hard Roar Tiger]

And that we’ve won as many flags in the past 3 years that those tragic Pies have won in over 60 years