Author Topic: Tom Lynch cops 5 weeks from the Tribunal [merged]  (Read 650242 times)

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Re: Tom Lynch referred directly to the Tribunal [merged]
« Reply #2610 on: Yesterday at 07:12:18 PM »
The Tribunal returns to say it upholds the 'severe' impact grading... but is yet to decide on a sanction.

https://x.com/DavidZita1/status/1939974977400250776


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Re: Tom Lynch referred directly to the Tribunal [merged]
« Reply #2611 on: Yesterday at 07:16:42 PM »
I don't recall the last time this happened... they're going to decide on a sanction but they are getting submissions from both sides first.

It's ironic I referred to my brother's No.2 a short time ago because the Tribunal it seems is now taking the No.1.

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Re: Tom Lynch referred directly to the Tribunal [merged]
« Reply #2612 on: Yesterday at 07:19:05 PM »
The Tribunal returns to say it upholds the 'severe' impact grading... but is yet to decide on a sanction.

https://x.com/DavidZita1/status/1939974977400250776

Of course they did because who cares about precedent right

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Re: Tom Lynch referred directly to the Tribunal [merged]
« Reply #2613 on: Yesterday at 07:19:53 PM »
What a Kangaroo Court! ::)

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Re: Tom Lynch referred directly to the Tribunal [merged]
« Reply #2614 on: Yesterday at 07:21:06 PM »
The Tribunal is now deliberating. Again.

https://x.com/DavidZita1/status/1939977049445134386

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Tom Lynch cops 5 weeks from the Tribunal[updated]
« Reply #2615 on: Yesterday at 07:28:25 PM »
Tom Lynch has been banned for five matches.

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Re: Tom Lynch cops 5 weeks from the Tribunal [merged]
« Reply #2616 on: Yesterday at 07:35:08 PM »
The Club will surely appeal this and challenge the "severe" rating.

Opponent gets up and plays on = AFL says 5 weeks.

Lalor gets his jaw broken = AFL says nothing to see here  ::).
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Re: Tom Lynch cops 5 weeks from the Tribunal [merged]
« Reply #2617 on: Yesterday at 07:40:13 PM »
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Re: Tom Lynch cops 5 weeks from the Tribunal [merged]
« Reply #2618 on: Yesterday at 07:41:25 PM »
Much of a muchness really, probably my only frustration is I'm a bit over Richmond boys been made examples of via tribunal.

Broad was the first dangerous double armed pinned tackle (Vs Adelaide) to get a big suspension, got 3 weeks.

Mansell got weeks for 2 examples, 1 where him and Aish hit the ball at the same time and Aish was concussed. Outcome over action suspensions began. The 2nd one was Mansell making contact to Saints player which contibuted to him being concussed into a pack.

Balta hysteria and witch hunt to be suspended internally for longer.

Now Lynch been made example of for an action rather than an outcome.

Deserved weeks, was a stupid reaction and looks awful, but you can't grade this as severe, absolute donkey levels AFL. 3 weeks if he was lucky, 4 to be in line with Nash suspension which actually KO'd opponent is probably expected, 5 is overs.
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Re: Tom Lynch cops 5 weeks from the Tribunal [merged]
« Reply #2619 on: Yesterday at 07:47:58 PM »
Can someone please post the mash incident again

Boy o boy this is nuts
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Re: Tom Lynch cops 5 weeks from the Tribunal [merged]
« Reply #2620 on: Yesterday at 07:54:12 PM »
Tribunal based 5 weeks of intentional strike and very high potential for injury.

I'm assuming the intentional high contact of jumper punches which get 1 week at best is based off "how it looks" difference - 4 weeks seems crazy difference based off 'aesthetics'..

Was graded as high impact to the head. On what grounds is a higher potential for injury possible when the contact is supposedly high to the back of the head. How can it potentially be a worse action? Because the impact was not high, if it was high and impacted the back of the head of Butts, he would be severely injured. The impact thus was low because the point of contact was made to a part of the body that was able to sustain the blow. You can't have your cake and eat it too AFL, this has just been contrived because a Richmond player is been made example of. It looks awful, acknowledge that, deserves weeks but unfortunately for those who want a witch hunt, the impact was not high and the impact was minimal, Lynch and Butts are both insanely lucky but you should not be punished based off hypotheticals. You don't go to jail for nearly committing an offence.

Just boggles the mind how our tribunal works, compared to a court of law it's genuinely laughable, in saying that our courts aren't anything to rave about either.
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Re: Tom Lynch cops 5 weeks from the Tribunal [merged]
« Reply #2621 on: Yesterday at 08:00:15 PM »
The Tribunal's Reasons:

This matter involves the relatively rare offence of an intentional strike.

Lynch admits he intentionally struck Butts.

He contends that he did not intend to strike him high, but he admits that this is what he did.

The only matter in issue is the level of impact.

The AFL submits that the impact was severe. It is submitted on behalf of Lynch that the impact was either medium or no higher than high.

We find that the impact was severe.

As the AFL noted, Lynch swung his arm in an upwards motion beginning at roughly his own hip, and made forceful contact with the back of Butts’ head, his neck and the top of his back.

Butts went to ground, but was not injured and did not leave the ground as a result of the strike.

The Tigers placed considerable emphasis on the absence of injury.

In our view, however, the potential for injury was very high indeed.

Lynch made a full and unrestrained swing of his arm in an upwards motion and the force of the impact with Butts’ head was considerable.

Lynch initially gave evidence that he could not form a fist with his right hand. It was supported by medical evidence. He conceded in cross examination, having been shown photographs of him forming at least a partial fist that he could clench his fingers other than his middle finger.

In any event, Lynch says that he did not form a fist. Although vision is not sufficiently clear to make a finding to the contrary, we are satisfied that Lynch did not strike Butts with an open hand. Some of his fingers were at least partially clenched.

Importantly, however, Lynch made contact to Butts’ head with the heel of his palm, or at least a partially closed hand. Given the momentum of the swinging arm and the force with which the blow landed, it was quite capable of causing a concussion.

It's also relevant that Butts had no reason to anticipate or expect he may be about to be struck with force to the back of the head.

The marking contest had completely finished and the ball had spilled free.

Butts had no ability to protect himself or attempt to deflect the blow.

Given we have found that the strike had severe impact the table in the guidelines and regulations specifies that the sanction is four or more matches.

In determining the appropriate sanction for an offence that is found to be intentional, severe and high, all aspects of the offence are to be taken into account.

We note in this regard that the Tribunal guidelines provide serious intentional actions will be subject to greater sanctions commensurate with the potential to cause serious injury and/or the potential to prejudice the reputation of any person, club or the AFL, or bring the AFL or bring the game of football into disrepute.

Although a part of this provision dealing with reputation and disrepute was not relied upon by the AFL and we do not take it into account, we do take into account the fact that this was what we regard as a serious intentional action with the potential to cause serious injury.

We already stated we find that this strike had the potential to cause a concussion, and we consider that a concussion is a serious injury.

We consider the totality of the matters, including the fact that Lynch clearly formed an intent to strike Butts, that it was not in play, that he struck Butts in the back of the head and that he did so having swung his arm with great force, we find that a significant sanction is warranted.

We impose a sanction of a five-match suspension.

https://www.foxsports.com.au/afl/afl-2025-tom-lynch-tribunal-hearing-live-updates-and-blog-start-time-aest-charged-with-intentional-striking-on-jordon-butts-suspension-video-latest-news/news-story/311733b96a8deea655fdd8ec5855c7fc

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Re: Tom Lynch cops 5 weeks from the Tribunal [merged]
« Reply #2622 on: Yesterday at 08:08:16 PM »
Appeal it.

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Re: Tom Lynch cops 5 weeks from the Tribunal [merged]
« Reply #2623 on: Yesterday at 08:26:27 PM »
Can someone please post the Nash incident again
FJ, here's the vision of Nash on Miers.

VIDEO: https://www.afl.com.au/video/1305556/hawks-brutal-ko-on-miers-sparks-scuffle-and-mro-storm

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Last two sentences of the Tribunal's reasons for Nash's 4-match suspension:

We accept that he was not intending to strike Miers to the head. He should have known that his forceful swing of an arm at head height may well result in just such a strike.

We find that the appropriate sanction is four matches.

Full reasons: https://www.foxsports.com.au/afl/afl-tribunal-live-2025-conor-nash-tribunal-hearing-for-striking-gryan-miers-suspension-hawthorn-player-fights-ban-latest-news/news-story/ddd781fe6dbb4b728001a338213d3b7a

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Re: Tom Lynch cops 5 weeks from the Tribunal [merged]
« Reply #2624 on: Yesterday at 08:28:38 PM »
Speaking to @7NewsMelbourne after his 5 match ban was handed down, a remorseful Tom Lynch said that Richmond has not ruled out an appeal.

Richmond’s lawyers will re-assess their case overnight, with a decision to be made by midday tomorrow.

@7AFL

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