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Re: Richmond vs Hawthorn @ the MCG --- Qualifying Final, 2018
« Reply #75 on: September 04, 2018, 02:50:05 PM »
Big Dave has turned into quite the leader.

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To tag or not to tag Tom Mitchell? Dimma's dilemma (ESPN)
« Reply #76 on: September 04, 2018, 02:59:30 PM »
Do we tag Tom Mitchell and if so who should get the gig?

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To tag or not to tag? Dimma's dilemma

ESPN
4 Sept. 2018


If there's one team in the competition that can probably get away with not tagging Hawthorn's Tom Mitchell, it's Richmond.

The reigning premiers have been a class above everyone else this season en route to the minor premiership and a qualifying final win over the Hawks on Thursday night would have them as a short priced favourite to return to the AFL's big dance for the second straight year.

Richmond prevailed over Hawthorn earlier in the year by 11 points at the MCG a game where Mitchell could pick up the three Brownlow Medal votes for 42 possessions, 11 clearances and a goal. He was also the Hawks' best player when the sides met in Round 20 last year with a 35-disposal, nine-clearance and one-goal game.

Okay, we know what you're thinking - why tag Mitchell if the Tigers can win without doing so?

But in a final when scoring dries up and the game becomes ultra-contested, Mitchell -- the winner of the 2018 Leigh Matthews trophy -- could be the decisive factor.

In his last finals series (2016 with Sydney), Mitchell was just about the Swans' most consistent player. He averaged 27 possessions and 4.5 clearances per game (when he spent significantly less time in the midfield). Not to mention he was the favourite for the Norm Smith Medal at halftime in the 2016 grand final after picking up 15 possessions, laying eight tackles and booting two goals.

A Mitchell masterclass doesn't always equate to a Hawthorn win but in a final it just might. Don't say we didn't warn you, Dimma.

http://kwese.espn.com/afl/story/_/id/24541235/afl-finals-week-one-w2w4-do-tigers-tag-tom-mitchell-richmond-hawthorn

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Re: Richmond vs Hawthorn @ the MCG --- Qualifying Final, 2018
« Reply #77 on: September 04, 2018, 05:33:39 PM »
For those who missed out on a ticket . Just checked Ticketek, great seats available at the moment. Category 2 and 3 on level 1
M56 and M52
Ticketek website saying category 1 & 2 single seats still available plus limited availability of category 4 tickets.


https://premier.ticketek.com.au/shows/show.aspx?sh=QUALI0318


Edit: Category 4 tickets now all exhausted.

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Re: Richmond vs Hawthorn @ the MCG --- Qualifying Final, 2018
« Reply #78 on: September 04, 2018, 08:22:24 PM »

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Re: Richmond vs Hawthorn @ the MCG --- Qualifying Final, 2018
« Reply #79 on: September 04, 2018, 10:50:35 PM »
All public reserve ticket allocations have now been exhausted. So the game is officially a sell out.

https://premier.ticketek.com.au/shows/show.aspx?sh=QUALI0318


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Re: Richmond vs Hawthorn @ the MCG --- Qualifying Final, 2018
« Reply #80 on: September 04, 2018, 10:52:22 PM »
Footy Show's analysis by Brendon Goddard and Shaun Higgins:


The analysis on the Tigers and Hawks from Brendon and Shaun. #9AFLFootyShow
VIDEO: https://twitter.com/AFLFootyShow/status/1036953009505222656

Shane Crawford is backing his beloved Hawks! #9AFLFootyShow
VIDEO: https://twitter.com/AFLFootyShow/status/1036953036273242113

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Re: Richmond vs Hawthorn @ the MCG --- Qualifying Final, 2018
« Reply #81 on: September 05, 2018, 06:08:59 PM »
Looks like it could be wet weather footy tomorrow night:


http://www.bom.gov.au/vic/forecasts/melbourne.shtml

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If Richmond turn up heat, Hawks may be cooked (Age)
« Reply #82 on: September 06, 2018, 04:07:42 AM »
The Age is tipping us to win by around 5 goals:

If Richmond turn up heat, Hawks may be cooked

By Peter Ryan
The Age
6 September 2018


Can Richmond flick a switch?

The Tigers' winning margin in three of their past four home-and-away games was no more than eight points, with late misses by the opposition being the difference between a win and loss in two of those matches. Given a top-two spot was virtually secured for most of the final month, it raises the question: were Richmond coming back to the field or did they just do enough in the run home? It's picking faults to suggest anything other than the latter, with all three games in hand before the opposition made late charges. Apart from Dan Butler, the Tigers are at full-strength and are capable of turning up the heat to maximum against the hardened Hawks. They dominate the competition when it comes to scores from turnovers, and should do so again.

Does Alastair Clarkson have a trick up his sleeve?

The four-time premiership coach generally makes his moves at training rather than rely on match-day moments of inspiration. However, he may need to dig deep to find a tonic to quell the manic Tigers. Hawthorn can realistically aim to win the centre clearances, so the next possession is vital, because Richmond's defenders are so good at intercepting and rebounding to a midfield that holds their position. Clarkson might be tempted to play James Sicily inside the forward 50 if he wants to use a shock tactic to keep the Tigers occupied in the air. However, he is more likely to want him in defence to keep the ball off the ground. He could also push Ben McEvoy forward to occupy Alex Rance, with Jonathon Ceglar handling Toby Nankervis. Such moves might create a goal or two, but it's more likely Hawthorn will try to control possession and deny Richmond the chance to engage in a frenetic fight for ground balls that they inevitably win, their scoring efficiency once inside 50 being the second best in the competition.

Will James Frawley and Jack Riewoldt finally have the battle they were destined for?

When Richmond met Melbourne at the start of these two players' careers, there was much discussion about the match-up becoming a Glen Jakovich-Wayne Carey duel for the modern generation. However, it didn't eventuate, with Frawley having to leave Melbourne for Hawthorn to experience finals success, while Riewoldt plugged away without team success until the stars aligned last year. Now, finally, the two players meet in a final with just months remaining before they turn 30. Restricting Riewoldt nowadays is almost impossible because he doesn't rely on goals for influence, but if Frawley can create enough uncertainty to enable marking talls to outmark Riewoldt, the Tigers' small forwards will be starved of opportunity.

Do Hawthorn become unsociable with Dusty?

The Richmond champion has been timing his run of form perfectly, shaking off early-season expectations that weighed him down, to turn it on late. Few have dared to niggle Dustin Martin constantly, afraid it might just focus his energies in an even more dangerous and destructive manner. But no one knows for sure how he might react. This time last season, it was impossible to tackle Martin, let alone put him off his game, but a brave Hawk might take on the challenge to test him. If Daniel Howe plays (named as an emergency), he might get the job, while Ben Stratton will hope his mullet carries the powers of Samson if he chooses to antagonise Martin. Do so at your own risk, Hawks, but any such battle will make for great watching.

Final word


It's hard to shake the feeling that Richmond have been cruising and Hawthorn can't believe they finished fourth. The gap between the two teams seems wide, with three wins and 16 per cent separating them on the ladder. Richmond's midfield, led by Trent Cotchin, runs too deep and they should comfortably record their 22nd consecutive win at the MCG.



Prediction: Richmond by 28 points


https://www.theage.com.au/sport/afl/if-richmond-turn-up-heat-hawks-may-be-cooked-20180905-p501xd.html

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Re: Richmond vs Hawthorn @ the MCG --- Qualifying Final, 2018
« Reply #83 on: September 06, 2018, 08:21:18 AM »
Play our natural game simple as that pressure and tackling and harassing starts from our forward 50 hit hawks hard then to our midfield to don't give them time and space.Be smart with our forward 50 entries look up best option and hit the score board.Use our pace to breake hawks open to.

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Re: Richmond vs Hawthorn @ the MCG --- Qualifying Final, 2018
« Reply #84 on: September 06, 2018, 11:39:08 AM »
Shane Crawford questions Richmond’s training intensity


Hawthorn great Shane Crawford has questioned Richmond’s training intensity ahead of tonight’s qualifying final against the Hawks.

Crawford said his training spies had told him the Tigers were taking it easy on the track and not pushing themselves too hard.

“I’ve been told it’s sort of a feel-good session … kick the ball around, not too much competitive stuff, move the ball around and feel good about it,” Crawford said on SEN Breakfast.

Crawford said that though the Tigers skills may have looked slick on the training field, it wasn’t necessarily the best preparation for a final.

“A great training session is when you’re still making mistakes because the pressure and the competition, which is your teammates, is making it very much game-style.”

“Then you have sessions where there is no competition, like the old circle work – everyone touches the ball but it makes very little difference to what you’re actually trying to do.”

The Tigers take on Hawthorn in tonight’s qualifying final at the MCG.


https://www.zerohanger.com/shane-crawford-questions-richmonds-training-intensity-23519/

Can’t wait to shut these clowns up!

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Re: Richmond vs Hawthorn @ the MCG --- Qualifying Final, 2018
« Reply #85 on: September 06, 2018, 12:48:34 PM »
Honestly love Crawford,but these hawks explayers trying to unsettle us lol.What they don't know gives Dimma and group more motivation and drive. :gotigers

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Re: Richmond vs Hawthorn @ the MCG --- Qualifying Final, 2018
« Reply #86 on: September 06, 2018, 12:56:02 PM »
Shane Crawford questions Richmond’s training intensity


Hawthorn great Shane Crawford has questioned Richmond’s training intensity ahead of tonight’s qualifying final against the Hawks.

Crawford said his training spies had told him the Tigers were taking it easy on the track and not pushing themselves too hard.

“I’ve been told it’s sort of a feel-good session … kick the ball around, not too much competitive stuff, move the ball around and feel good about it,” Crawford said on SEN Breakfast.

Crawford said that though the Tigers skills may have looked slick on the training field, it wasn’t necessarily the best preparation for a final.

“A great training session is when you’re still making mistakes because the pressure and the competition, which is your teammates, is making it very much game-style.”

“Then you have sessions where there is no competition, like the old circle work – everyone touches the ball but it makes very little difference to what you’re actually trying to do.”

The Tigers take on Hawthorn in tonight’s qualifying final at the MCG.


https://www.zerohanger.com/shane-crawford-questions-richmonds-training-intensity-23519/

Can’t wait to shut these clowns up!

Seriously Shane is a clown
Watched “ closed session “ on Tuesday. Tiges are flying . Expect Dusty and Prestia to have blinders. Boys worked there backside off on Tuesday, they won’t loafing I can assure you

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Re: Richmond vs Hawthorn @ the MCG --- Qualifying Final, 2018
« Reply #87 on: September 06, 2018, 02:27:48 PM »
Champion Data's player ratings 1-44 for the Qualifying Final:

GAME RANKING (OVERALL RANKING)    TEAM    PLAYER
1 (2)    RICH    Dustin Martin
2 (13)    HAW    Ben McEvoy
3 (17)    RICH    Shane Edwards
4 (19)    HAW    Tom Mitchell
5 (35)    HAW    Shaun Burgoyne
6 (39)    HAW    Luke Breust
7 (41)    RICH    Jack Riewoldt
8 (43)    RICH    Trent Cotchin

9 (48)    HAW    Jack Gunston
10 (50)    RICH    Kane Lambert
11 (53)    RICH    Alex Rance
12 (63)    RICH    Toby Nankervis
13 (85)    RICH    Josh Caddy

14 (88)    HAW    Jarryd Roughead
15 (98)    HAW    Liam Shiels
16 (110)    HAW    Isaac Smith
17 (112)    RICH    Dion Prestia
18 (153)    HAW    James Sicily
19 (159)    HAW    Paul Puopolo
20 (167)    RICH    Nick Vlastuin
21 (182)    RICH    Jayden Short

22 (215)    HAW    Ricky Henderson
23 (228)    HAW    Jarman Impey
24 (239)    RICH    Dylan Grimes
25 (243)    HAW    Blake Hardwick
26 (247)    RICH    Bachar Houli
27 (254)    HAW    Ryan Burton
28 (259)    HAW    Jaeger O'Meara
29 (261)    RICH    Daniel Rioli
30 (265)    RICH    Shaun Grigg
31 (282)    RICH    David Astbury
32 (293)    RICH    Kamdyn McIntosh

33 (323)    HAW    James Frawley
34 (326)    HAW    Ben Stratton
35 (347)    RICH    Jason Castagna
36 (378)    RICH    Jack Graham
37 (391)    RICH    Nathan Broad
38 (407)    RICH    Jack Higgins
39 (414)    RICH    Reece Conca

40 (421)    HAW    Ryan Schoenmakers
41 (444)    HAW    Harry Morrison
42 (475)    HAW    Jonathon Ceglar
43 (518)    HAW    James Worpel
44 (650)    HAW    Conor Nash

http://www.afl.com.au/news/2018-09-06/player-ratings-richmond-v-hawthorn

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Re: Richmond vs Hawthorn @ the MCG --- Qualifying Final, 2018
« Reply #88 on: September 06, 2018, 03:39:17 PM »
Tigers v Hawks: The tactical battle

Ben Guthrie
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Sep 6, 2018 1:15PM


BY ITS OWN admission, Richmond did not play its best football over the last month of the home and away season.

However, the minor premier was the benchmark side across the year for a reason and Hawthorn and its coach Alastair Clarkson have their work cut out if they want to cause an upset.

Richmond finished three games ahead of Hawthorn at the end of round 23 and beat the Hawks by 13 points in the teams' only meeting, in round three.

The Tigers led virtually all day, extending their advantage to a game-high 39 points early in the last quarter before Hawthorn closed to within 14 points with just under three minutes left.

What the Hawks cannot do is bomb the ball forward aimlessly and allow Alex Rance and Nick Vlastuin – like they did when the teams squared off in that game – to pick off high kicks going inside 50.

Instead, the Hawks must be patient with their ball movement, but pick the right moments to take calculated risks and centre the footy to create one-on-one contests forward of the ball.

AFL.com.au has taken a look at how Richmond and Hawthorn structure up ahead of Thursday night's qualifying final clash at the MCG.

Richmond

How they play

The Tigers are an elite pressure side and their modus operandi is to force the ball forward into their attacking half of the ground and keep it there. Richmond forces the opposition into turnovers, with the Tigers outscoring their rivals by an average of 23 points per game (ranked No.1 in the competition) in that area of the contest.

Attack

Ranked behind only Melbourne for points per game (97.4) in 2018, Richmond's spread of scoring options points to how dangerous it can be. Coleman medallist Jack Riewoldt booted 65 goals for the season, while also ranking 12th in the AFL for goal assists. Shane Edwards (2nd) and Dustin Martin (eq. 5th) also thrive in dishing the ball off to teammates. The Tigers had four players kick more than 20 goals for the season (Riewoldt, Josh Caddy, Dustin Martin and Jason Castagna).

Defence


All Australian Alex Rance is the general in defence and often acts as the 'goalkeeper' or anchor, where he sits out the back of the contest and directs his teammates' positioning. Alternatively, he comes up at the ball to impact ground-level or aerial contests. With Rance's offsiders David Astbury and Dylan Grimes able to lock down on an opponent, the Tigers' defence would be close to the most organised in the League.

Ball movement


Richmond is not a high-possession team and instead relies on a direct brand of football, characterised by forward handballs to teammates and knock-ons to advantage. The pressure of their small forwards and midfielders around the ball is crucial and they sweat on the opposition making a mistake. First-year forward Jack Higgins has generated 80 points from turnovers caused by his pressure, ranked fourth in the competition. 

How to beat them

All four of the Tigers' losses this season have come on the road: against Adelaide (round two), West Coast (round nine), Port Adelaide (round 12) and Greater Western Sydney (round 17). Meanwhile, they have won 21 successive games at the MCG. However, Geelong and the Western Bulldogs showed late in the season that Richmond are fallible and provided opposition teams with an example of how to beat the reigning premier, although they narrowly failed themselves. The Cats and Dogs attacked the corridor and tried to move the ball with pace, pulling the trigger on 'inside 45 kicks' (centralised kicks on a 45-degree angle back inboard) and being prepared to kick to contests in the middle of the ground. The Tigers are reliant on winning the ball back from sides by creating pressure around the ball, so if teams exit stoppages with speed and not allow their stable defence to setup effectively in transition they can be vulnerable in one-out contests.

Hawthorn

How they play

The Hawks like to control the tempo of the game by possessing the ball and wearing the opposition out by piling up uncontested mark, forcing them to defend and win the ball back. Hawthorn has improved its ability to score from stoppages in the second half of this season and Alastair Clarkson's side is highly efficient when they get the ball inside attacking 50.

Attack

The Hawks rank third in the AFL for points per game from turnovers, punishing teams when they make mistakes. They have improved their ability to move the ball out of a stoppage and once they get the ball forward they have damaging players, led by All Australians Luke Breust and Jack Gunston inside 50.

Defence

The Hawks allowed their opposition to go from defensive 50 to inside 50 just 14 per cent of the time – the lowest percentage Champion Data has ever recorded. They are organised behind the ball, often creating a structure where they play with seven or eight defenders and outnumber the opposition. Ben Stratton is Hawthorn's most flexible backman – he can play as a drop-off defender, he can play tall or small and he often lines up on the opposition’s most dangerous player inside forward 50. 

Ball movement


The Hawks refer to 'keeping the ball in motion' and constantly flick the ball around to keep the opposition on their toes. They move the ball with precision, honouring hit-up leads and if that option is not on Ben McEvoy and Jon Ceglar are excellent bail-out options to kick the footy to up the line. They use their control of the ball as a form of defence.

How to beat them

Stopping Tom Mitchell is a good start, with the Brownlow Medal favourite often the catalyst for winning a crucial clearance or a ground ball at the bottom of a pack. And if the Hawks are able to feed the ball back cleanly to teammates out of a contest, they can then set the field up the way they like. Denying them space and pressuring the ball carrier is crucial against Hawthorn.

http://www.afl.com.au/news/2018-09-06/tigers-v-hawks-the-tactical-battle#/

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Re: Richmond vs Hawthorn @ the MCG --- Qualifying Final, 2018
« Reply #89 on: September 06, 2018, 04:05:51 PM »
Champion Data's player ratings 1-44 for the Qualifying Final:

GAME RANKING (OVERALL RANKING)    TEAM    PLAYER
1 (2)    RICH    Dustin Martin
2 (13)    HAW    Ben McEvoy
3 (17)    RICH    Shane Edwards
4 (19)    HAW    Tom Mitchell
5 (35)    HAW    Shaun Burgoyne
6 (39)    HAW    Luke Breust
7 (41)    RICH    Jack Riewoldt
8 (43)    RICH    Trent Cotchin

9 (48)    HAW    Jack Gunston
10 (50)    RICH    Kane Lambert
11 (53)    RICH    Alex Rance
12 (63)    RICH    Toby Nankervis
13 (85)    RICH    Josh Caddy

14 (88)    HAW    Jarryd Roughead
15 (98)    HAW    Liam Shiels
16 (110)    HAW    Isaac Smith
17 (112)    RICH    Dion Prestia
18 (153)    HAW    James Sicily
19 (159)    HAW    Paul Puopolo
20 (167)    RICH    Nick Vlastuin
21 (182)    RICH    Jayden Short

22 (215)    HAW    Ricky Henderson
23 (228)    HAW    Jarman Impey
24 (239)    RICH    Dylan Grimes
25 (243)    HAW    Blake Hardwick
26 (247)    RICH    Bachar Houli
27 (254)    HAW    Ryan Burton
28 (259)    HAW    Jaeger O'Meara
29 (261)    RICH    Daniel Rioli
30 (265)    RICH    Shaun Grigg
31 (282)    RICH    David Astbury
32 (293)    RICH    Kamdyn McIntosh

33 (323)    HAW    James Frawley
34 (326)    HAW    Ben Stratton
35 (347)    RICH    Jason Castagna
36 (378)    RICH    Jack Graham
37 (391)    RICH    Nathan Broad
38 (407)    RICH    Jack Higgins
39 (414)    RICH    Reece Conca

40 (421)    HAW    Ryan Schoenmakers
41 (444)    HAW    Harry Morrison
42 (475)    HAW    Jonathon Ceglar
43 (518)    HAW    James Worpel
44 (650)    HAW    Conor Nash

http://www.afl.com.au/news/2018-09-06/player-ratings-richmond-v-hawthorn

What a load of rubbish.

McEvoy the 13th best player in the comp, Grimes behind Henderson and Impey!  :lol
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