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Re: Prelim Final: Richmond vs Collingwood, Friday night, Sept. 21.
« Reply #360 on: September 22, 2018, 12:25:25 AM »
If Grigg is anything more than depth next year Hardwick is not serious.... :shh
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Re: Prelim Final: Richmond vs Collingwood, Friday night, Sept. 21.
« Reply #361 on: September 22, 2018, 12:27:04 AM »
Short seems to be getting off scott free around here.........was badly exposed tonight.....putrid....been ordinary in both finals..... :shh
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Re: Prelim Final: Richmond vs Collingwood, Friday night, Sept. 21.
« Reply #362 on: September 22, 2018, 12:36:20 AM »
If Grigg is anything more than depth next year Hardwick is not serious.... :shh
Went a bit early in the contract extensions of Grigg and Houli IMO.

Surely Bolta takes Griggs spot next year.

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Re: Prelim Final: Richmond vs Collingwood, Friday night, Sept. 21.
« Reply #363 on: September 22, 2018, 12:39:43 AM »
Short seems to be getting off scott free around here.........was badly exposed tonight.....putrid....been ordinary in both finals..... :shh

Agree not acountable defence wise big time and panic merchant in finals wasn't slone tho.

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Re: Prelim Final: Richmond vs Collingwood, Friday night, Sept. 21.
« Reply #364 on: September 22, 2018, 02:28:40 AM »
No point signalling out players for criticism when all bar a couple were horrible.

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Re: Prelim Final: Richmond vs Collingwood, Friday night, Sept. 21.
« Reply #365 on: September 22, 2018, 03:31:31 AM »
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Jack Riewoldt – 9
In Jack style, gave everything he had when the Tigers lacked in so many areas. Locked in a tough battle with Tyson Goldsack, overcame a slow start to kick three of his five goals in the third quarter when the Tigers desperately needed something to happen. Winded himself in a marking contest before booting his fifth at the start of the fourth and didn't do much after that, but had been their most dangerous marking forward for the best part of the game.

Trent Cotchin – 8
Was the Tigers' leading possession winner at half-time and their main hope at the clearances. Tried his heart out and ended with 25 disposals, 11 contested, and won a whopping 10 clearances, but simply had too much to do on his own. Also won't want to be reminded of the moment he was used as Mason Cox's stepladder for the big Pie's second-term screamer.

Dylan Grimes – 7
Had plenty to do in defence given the Pies' bevy of dangerous goal-kickers, the fact Astbury was at half rat-power, and the way the Tigers like to try and leave Alex Rance free whenever possible. Played on a range of players from Brody Mihocek to Travis Varcoe to Jordan De Goey and didn't stop trying despite being treated briefly for an issue with his eye in the second quarter.

Dion Prestia – 7
Had 24 touches, second to Cotchin for the Tigers, and won four clearances and laid five tackles. But, also had eight turnovers and didn't move the ball with his usual precision. Applied the pressure when needed and wasn't afraid to get in and under, but wasn't always clean when he needed to be.

Shane Edwards - 6
Tried hard in the first half, spending some time in attack. Brought the pressure, dragged teammates into scoring opportunities and drove the ball inside 50, but didn't make a consistent impact.

Jack Higgins – 6
Playing with taping on the outside of his left knee, the first-year forward tried valiantly to lift the spirits of the team when he marked and goaled with seconds left before half-time. But, it wasn't as important as the straight kick he drove through seven minutes into the fourth that chopped the margin to 21 points. Wearing his heart on his sleeve, was one of the more visibly upset players on the final siren.

Bachar Houli – 6
Got the ball moving off half-back, as he characteristically does, and snuck forward to kick a third-quarter goal to give the Tigers a glimmer of hope. Had 22 touches, four inside 50s and four rebounds but made a few mistakes.

Alex Rance – 6
Had 20 touches and 10 intercepts, which wasn't really indicative of how he went. Tried a few different things to get going after starting deep against Jordan De Goey; switched opponents and broke off to play loose, but it wasn't the usual sort of Alex Rance game that sets the Tigers up from the last line of defence. It was tough with Astbury under the weather and the Pies possessing a number of midfield winners, and Rance didn't stop trying.

Nick Vlastuin – 6
Tried hard and got involved at both ends of the ground with five rebounds and four score involvements. Had 10 intercept possessions and was relatively clean with his disposal to be one of their more solid contributors.

Reece Conca – 5
Did a bit of everything, off half-back and through the midfield. Brought good pressure and laid five tackles on his way to 18 touches. Finishes the season somewhat reborn as a player after finally getting a consistent chance to prove his worth at AFL level, but his future at Punt Road remains uncertain with Fremantle circling the West Australian.

Shaun Grigg - 5
Did OK for 15 disposals although didn't really catch the eye. Had four inside 50s and, as usual, spent time on the wing and also in the ruck, although no Tiger was any match for the in-form All Australian Brodie Grundy.

Kane Lambert – 5
Came off a bit after his impressive return from an ankle injury in the first final. Had 19 disposals but wasn't quite the inside supporting act to Cotchin he was against Hawthorn. Was nursed through training leading into semi-final weekend, but was declared fit this week.

Kamdyn McIntosh – 5
It was a less prolific night for the wingman after he kicked three goals against Hawthorn. Spent time opposed to Steele Sidebottom in the first quarter, but largely played against Tom Phillips in a pretty even fight. Set up Higgins for a late second quarter goal they desperately needed and ended with 15 disposals and four rebounds.

Daniel Rioli – 5
Lit up the MCG early when he streaked through the middle with two possessions to set up Riewoldt's first shot at goal and brought his usual pizzazz to the contest with four inside 50s and plenty of pressure. However, just one of his five tackles was in the attacking arc. Got dragged down by James Aish in the third quarter, which was a boon for the Pies and sent their supporters into a frenzy. Didn't kick a goal for just the fourth time this season. 

David Astbury – 4
Battled a virus late in the week that required hospitalisation for rehydration. Lined up against Mason Cox, who ended up being one of the Pies' best, but it wasn't always Astbury's fault. Had a spell up forward in the fourth and forced Nathan Buckley to shuffle the troops, but looked lethargic and out of sorts, touching the ball 12 times for the night.

Nathan Broad – 4
Has been quiet in his last three games and the trend continued, although he touched the ball 10 times, the most possessions he's had since round 21. Spent time against Travis Varcoe and Jaidyn Stephenson and had three rebounds as he worked to plug holes in the Tigers' back half.

Jack Graham – 4
Another quiet final from the usually prolific tackler and handy goal-kicker. Went to Scott Pendlebury for a period but only had eight disposals and also failed to score, however was second in pressure acts for the Tigers.

Dustin Martin – 4
Played in possession of the most talked about knee/leg/corked thigh in the country with late suggestion he was treated right up to the game just to get over the line. Drew Levi Greenwood in the midfield and Jeremy Howe when he went deep, which was often. Played 91 minutes of a possible 120 and simply didn't look himself as he hobbled to 19 disposals without his usual explosiveness and level of intimidation.

Josh Caddy – 3
Didn't provide the spark he offered in the first final when he kicked two goals. Went missing early on with just two touches in the opening term, despite spending more time in the midfield than usual. Had five to half-time and ended with 11 in his quietest game for a while.

Toby Nankervis – 3
Started well, notably out-marking Grundy when the Pies were attempting to repel from defence after a point early in the first quarter, but that was where it ended with Grundy having the run of play all over the ground after that. Did win the first clearance of the second half that contributed to Jack Riewoldt's opening goal, but it's fair to say he lowered his colours against the All-Australian big man.

Jayden Short – 3
Somewhat worked his way into the game after a quiet start but didn't possess his usual punch off half-back. Had 18 disposals but eight of them were turnovers, which indicated the pressure of the occasion may have gotten to the usually clean defender. Did spot Lambert out on the flank early in the third to instigate the switch and push the Tigers forward, but just didn't have enough of those moments.

Jason Castagna – 2
Didn't fire early, failing to touch the ball in the first quarter. Laid what ordinarily would have been a motivating tackle on Steele Sidebottom seven minutes into the second after the Pies exploded out of the blocks and was involved in Jack Riewoldt's goal to open the third, but didn't do a great deal else.

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Re: Prelim Final: Richmond vs Collingwood, Friday night, Sept. 21.
« Reply #366 on: September 22, 2018, 03:38:41 AM »

 One player not getting enough criticism is Rance hasn't been the same since that diving incident been poor since then.

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Re: Prelim Final: Richmond vs Collingwood, Friday night, Sept. 21.
« Reply #367 on: September 22, 2018, 07:29:55 AM »
Very generous with a lot of those player scores.

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Re: Prelim Final: Richmond vs Collingwood, Friday night, Sept. 21.
« Reply #368 on: September 22, 2018, 07:40:40 AM »
Those scores would i guess be some of the lowest for the season. Unfortunate it happened at the prelim but we often criticised the media for focussing on how badly the opposition played when we beat them rather than us only allowing them to play that well. Now the shoe is on the other foot, we played as well as the Pies allowed us to play, their pressure and setups made us play un-Richmond like and for that you have to say well done to them.

Its a hard pill to swallow but sooner or later we were going to get beaten at the G, leading up to the finals we were far from convincing and even against the Hawks there were some worrying moments but our class got us through in the end.

Next season we do it all again with the nucleus of a very good side that will challenge the best teams and take us on another joyous ride on the Tigers train.

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Re: Prelim Final: Richmond vs Collingwood, Friday night, Sept. 21.
« Reply #369 on: September 22, 2018, 07:44:16 AM »
Well said Lozza. The signs were definitely there.

Def better to not finish first I believe. 5 yrs in a row now that team hasn’t won the big dance
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Re: Prelim Final: Richmond vs Collingwood, Friday night, Sept. 21.
« Reply #370 on: September 22, 2018, 09:41:09 AM »
Just far tooo many MIA last night

Count on one hand those who fired a shot

The others missing

Don't want to single out players but one in particular i expected more and he was deplorable and that was Caddy.
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Re: Prelim Final: Richmond vs Collingwood, Friday night, Sept. 21.
« Reply #371 on: September 22, 2018, 09:42:12 AM »
Very generous with a lot of those player scores.

Agree wayne

Incredibly generous  :huh3
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Re: Prelim Final: Richmond vs Collingwood, Friday night, Sept. 21.
« Reply #372 on: September 22, 2018, 11:31:58 AM »
Beating pies twice without a few gun players gave a false illusion, but in reality they probably could have beaten us had they have had a full list.

I think we went away from the jovial relaxed set up of last year, and they couldn’t deal with the pressure in the end 

Signs were there for the last 2 months and I think going out in Straight sets in the vfl was a big loss.

Outgunned and outplayed and no one can be happy with that ending,  as it may never come around again for a long time.



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Re: Prelim Final: Richmond vs Collingwood, Friday night, Sept. 21.
« Reply #373 on: September 22, 2018, 11:44:25 AM »
Can't wait to hear Big Tone defend his boys Grigg & Conca :shh
Get a clue mate...
Cannot stand Grigg or Conca..... or Bellis or Houli.

Happy for you to troll through my posts of any of those duds.

I reckon your mate has been gift his last game for the Tigers too....Just what I’m hearing   :shh

Gift his last game for what? What does that mean?

If you're talking about Brandon, yes both Brisbane & GC are interested but he's staying put. Still doing work on his house here and is a required player
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Re: Prelim Final: Richmond vs Collingwood, Friday night, Sept. 21.
« Reply #374 on: September 22, 2018, 01:51:14 PM »
Caddy was the biggest disappointment for me. Great year but no where to be seen last night.

Short wet the bed a few times.

Bacher has played better finals too.

Dusty was obviously injured.
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