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Re: Trade talk, rumours & innuendo
« Reply #420 on: October 20, 2020, 07:16:07 PM »
Geelong reckons it has the cash for both Brad Crouch and Jeremy Cameron, - Tom Browne on 7news.

Sydney interested in Jesse Hogan.

Essendon is chasing a top 10 draft pick as well as a “sweetener” in exchange for Joe Daniher, - Sam Edmund on SEN.

https://www.foxsports.com.au/afl/afl-trade-news-rumours-whispers-2020-jesse-hogan-sydney-swans-connor-blakely-fremantle-joe-daniher-price-essendon-brisbane/news-story/6f1f965bc57dd73ef8c2bcec4881e087


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Re: Trade talk, rumours & innuendo
« Reply #421 on: October 21, 2020, 09:13:43 AM »
Essendon can FO lol. Top 10 for what?

As for Geelong....maybe they have cash with guys like Gary, Selwood, Taylor all coming to an end.

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Re: Trade talk, rumours & innuendo
« Reply #423 on: October 21, 2020, 12:10:54 PM »
I bet the Saints have had to overpay to get Crouch.  Guarantee they gave him 5 years or more. 
Not the worst result for us I think, would have been handy but no superstar. 
Keep our list together and go to the draft again. 

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Re: Trade talk, rumours & innuendo
« Reply #424 on: October 21, 2020, 01:33:46 PM »
Speculated that St Kilda is offering Crouch $700k per year over 4-5 years.

Adelaide hoping that will give them a first round compo pick. That would be pick 2. North won't be happy about that.

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Re: Trade talk, rumours & innuendo
« Reply #425 on: October 21, 2020, 03:22:09 PM »
No way were we going to fork out that kind of money for Crouch.

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Re: Trade talk, rumours & innuendo
« Reply #427 on: October 23, 2020, 03:39:00 AM »
Leaked emails have revealed how the AFL will determine free agency compensation

Herald-Sun
23 October 2020


A leaked email has revealed how the AFL determines its compensation picks for departed free agency, the memo delivering a warning clubs not to expect bumper dividends from their departed stars.

The AFL has warned clubs they should not expect to be fully compensated for the departure of their superstar free agents.

In an email seen by the Herald Sun, the league has made clear clubs should not expect entirely equivalent returns for any player which exercises their free agency rights after eight years’ service.

The document also details how the AFL determines the compensation picks based on free agents’ new salaries and their age.

However, there is an “expert committee” which reviews all pick outcomes and can recommend changes to the league’s general counsel in the event of an “anomalous result”.

Greater Western Sydney is slated to receive pick No.10 as compensation for Jeremy Cameron’s move to Geelong — if they do not match the Cats bid under the free agency model — but the Giants are determined to force a trade to secure a more attractive outcome.

Likewise Essendon (Joe Daniher) and Adelaide (Brad Crouch) want first-round compensation picks for their departing stars, but may have to settle for end-of-first round selection picks.

Crouch’s new salary at St Kilda will be significantly less than $700,000 a year, it was confirmed on Thursday.

But the AFL told clubs this week they should not expect bumper compensation pick returns for free agents.

The AFL memo said the compensation formula was “NOT DESIGNED to fully compensate a club for the loss of a player”.

Instead, the league advised the picks were designed to “reflect the relative values of various players to one another” after eight or more years of service to one club.

The scene is set for tense talks between clubs as the Cats have no plans to give up any of their three first-round picks to GWS in a trade.

Cats’ pair Esava Ratugolea and Brandan Parfitt are also off the trade table, their managers have confirmed.

In the AFL document, the league detailed the five bands which determine the compensation picks, based on the “age of player” and their “average guaranteed payments – base plus ASA (additional service agreements)”.

Players must be in the top-five per cent of earners for their age bracket to trigger first-round compensation.

Top 15 per cent of the pay scale triggers an end-of-first-round pick. Top 30 per cent is a second-round selection.

Top 50 per cent is an end-of-second-round pick. Top 70 per cent is third-round.

https://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/afl/news/leaked-emails-have-revealed-how-the-afl-will-determine-free-agency-compensation/news-story/18ccd69d0c0a1b4354be616fe347a8c5

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Re: Trade talk, rumours & innuendo
« Reply #428 on: October 23, 2020, 08:24:42 AM »
So Ablett was clearly a joke?

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Re: Trade talk, rumours & innuendo
« Reply #429 on: October 23, 2020, 08:31:33 AM »
This formula only applies to 17 clubs. Geelolng via their AFL agents in SHocking and Shifty Sheehan get an automatic upgrade to the next band - see Ablett and Fatlop
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Re: Trade talk, rumours & innuendo
« Reply #431 on: October 23, 2020, 03:08:17 PM »
Norf supporter on BF so take with grain of salt :

https://www.bigfooty.com/forum/threads/future-free-agency-targets-aka-the-thomas-green-clayton-oliver-discussion.1231941/post-67607291

 :shh

Would defs take a punt on hogan. Trade and salary wise wouldn’t cost much, seems like a low risk high reward situation.

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Re: Trade talk, rumours & innuendo
« Reply #432 on: October 23, 2020, 03:11:41 PM »
Essendon interested in Bulldog Josh Dunkley.

Port Adelaide interested in Swan Allir Allir.

Zach Merrett will be at Essendon in 2021.

Essendon forward Orazio Fantasia is expected to nominate Port Adelaide as his club of choice this week.

St Kilda and Adelaide struck an agreement as part of Brad Crouch’s decision to join the Saints in free agency. That deal will see the Crows take on a pair of Saints players (Jimmy Webster & Luke Dunstan) to give salary cap relief and allow St Kilda to pay Crouch enough to grant Adelaide top-bracket compensation (pick 2).

St KILDA is weighing up whether to throw another lifeline to delisted Essendon tall Shaun McKernan.

Out-of-contract GWS player Zac Langdon is West Coast bound.

Giant Xavier O’Halloran, who has attracted the preliminary interest of four clubs: Geelong, Brisbane, Essendon and the Western Bulldogs.

GWS midfielder Jye Caldwell announced he’s off to Essendon on a five-year contract at $550k per season.

https://www.foxsports.com.au/afl/afl-grand-final-winners-2020-tips-predictions-richmond-vs-geelong-grand-final-preview-norm-smith-medal-first-goal/news-story/3e5e171d189205f0d22c54cbd4df0de1
https://www.foxsports.com.au/afl/afl-trade-news-rumours-whispers-2020-zac-langdon-west-coast-eagles-aliir-aliir-port-adelaide/news-story/68dcd4df23066a08fff013bb9718ae41
https://www.zerohanger.com/afl-trade-news-essendons-interest-in-bulldogs-star-100-per-cent-accurate-dunkley-trade-rumours-66953/
https://www.sen.com.au/news/2020/10/22/st-kilda-considering-move-for-delisted-don/
https://www.sen.com.au/news/2020/10/22/the-two-saints-who-could-be-off-to-adelaide-as-part-of-crouch-negotiations/
https://www.sen.com.au/news/2020/10/22/the-staggering-amount-of-money-essendon-will-pay-jye-caldwell/

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Re: Trade talk, rumours & innuendo
« Reply #433 on: October 23, 2020, 03:11:56 PM »
Norf supporter on BF so take with grain of salt :

https://www.bigfooty.com/forum/threads/future-free-agency-targets-aka-the-thomas-green-clayton-oliver-discussion.1231941/post-67607291

 :shh

Would defs take a punt on hogan. Trade and salary wise wouldn’t cost much, seems like a low risk high reward situation.


Agreed- let him learn our style on and off the ground during 2021 in preparation for Jack post 2021.

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Re: Trade talk, rumours & innuendo
« Reply #434 on: October 23, 2020, 07:41:04 PM »
De Goey to re-sign with the Pies but only for two years so he can exercise his free agency rights in 2022.

Source: Tom Browne on 7news.