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Re: State of Umpiring [merged]
« Reply #2145 on: May 28, 2022, 11:56:34 AM »
What really bogs me off is that the controlling umpire wanted to pay the 50 against the Swans when they kicked the ball into the crowd, only for the earpiece to swoop in & over-rule the field umpire!  Suddenly the AFL invented a whole new umpire (one that we can't see or even talk to) when it was needed!   
Had the earpiece umpire not intervened Prestia would've had a shot after the siren to draw the game ...
As if we needed ANOTHER umpire calling it against us!  We got out-umpired 4 - 0!     :banghead
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Re: State of Umpiring [merged]
« Reply #2146 on: May 28, 2022, 12:21:40 PM »
This is what I posted on Twitter 👇

"Common sense? Interesting. @AFL Did I miss the memo about umpires being allowed to use "common sense" when applying the rules? So far in 2022 common sense isn't applicable to the stand rule, dissent rule, not giving the ball back correctly. Want me to go on? Can't pick & chose 😡"

I also posted that last week with 70k people at the MCG a 50 metre was paid against Bolton for playing on after a free was given against Riewoldt. With 70k screaming fans there's a bloody good chance Bolton didn't hear the whistle either but he certainly wasn't afford the "'use of common sense"

The game is officially stuffed

This. I would like to know what Benny and Peggy are saying to the afl behind closed doors, and if Benny is compromised given he wants the afl job.

I cannot remember a time in my life where the afl have stated common sense as a reason, ahead of the actual stuffin rule.

Am I alone here or has there been a precedent before?

I can guarantee you if it went the other way they would have said “as per afl rules it was the right decision”

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Re: State of Umpiring [merged]
« Reply #2147 on: May 28, 2022, 12:31:50 PM »
At half time last night I was thinking to myself , we have had the better of the umpiring so far what’s the bet they even this up. Sure enough there was one free in it at the end. Now when a schmuk like  me can predict this , there’s something really wrong with our game

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Re: State of Umpiring [merged]
« Reply #2148 on: May 28, 2022, 01:37:00 PM »
https://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/afl/news/unpaid-50m-penalty-controversy-how-the-final-minute-of-mayhem-unfolded-in-swanstigers-wrestle/news-story/311e87465744047f18d55fadb7880f9b

Excellent piece Sam. The AFL make me sick.

“For the avoidance of doubt, if immediately before hearing the siren to end a quarter, a field umpire is of the opinion that a Player should be awarded a free kick or a mark, the field umpire shall signal that play has come to an end and then award the free kick or mark to the player.”

There is no rule 10.5 c) common sense rule.


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Re: State of Umpiring [merged]
« Reply #2149 on: May 28, 2022, 03:34:05 PM »
Well what a surprise NOT!

The AFL have said the umpires made the correct call

https://www.sen.com.au/news/2022/05/28/afl-says-umpire-made-right-call-in-dramatic-friday-night-ending/
Yet in a different game when there was a free to Essendon on the wing as the siren went, a Freo player copped 50m for dropping the ball and not giving it back AFTER the siren  ::).

The AFL just makes it up as they go along  :thumbsdown. Yeah these reviews are so independent. The AFL deciding if the AFL is right or wrong  ::).

I'll post the Essendon vs Freo clip when I find it again.



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Re: State of Umpiring [merged]
« Reply #2150 on: May 28, 2022, 04:10:27 PM »
Unless you measure and show inconsistency how do you present a case. It’s either our fault or the umpires or a bit of both is why we get the rough end of the stick.
If they went to the AFL or media without facts it will look like we are Moaners
To boycott a Richmond home game will hurt the club not the AFL so if that’s the plan make it an away game, might get a better result protesting out the front of the AFL

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Re: State of Umpiring [merged]
« Reply #2151 on: May 28, 2022, 04:52:26 PM »
Here it is. The Freo player gets pinged for 50 for what he does with the ball AFTER the siren.

Watch: https://twitter.com/Flagmantle2022/status/1530179521626144768

I'm sure that Freo player could argue he dropped the ball because the siren had gone and he thought the quarter was over with the ball on the wing and no chance of Essendon scoring from there via the free. But no, the 50m rule was applied as per the rule without the umps conferring and making up excuses for him.


So let's get this straight. When a free kick is paid just before the siren, if a player gets rid of the footy and doesn't give the ball back after the siren against a team other than Richmond it's 50m but if it's against Richmond the rules don't matter & it's not 50 due to "commonsense" :facepalm :thumbsdown.

Good luck to Stevic and Howorth when they next umpire a Richmond home game. The Tiger Army will be on their backs from first bounce to final siren.
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Re: State of Umpiring [merged]
« Reply #2152 on: May 28, 2022, 05:17:31 PM »
MT
Can you please consider sending this to the media?
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Re: State of Umpiring [merged]
« Reply #2153 on: May 28, 2022, 05:36:12 PM »
Here it is. The Freo player gets pinged for 50 for what he does with the ball AFTER the siren.

Watch: https://twitter.com/Flagmantle2022/status/1530179521626144768

I'm sure that Freo player could argue he dropped the ball because the siren had gone and he thought the quarter was over with the ball on the wing and no chance of Essendon scoring from there via the free. But no, the 50m rule was applied as per the rule without the umps conferring and making up excuses for him.


So let's get this straight. When a free kick is paid just before the siren, if a player gets rid of the footy and doesn't give the ball back after the siren against a team other than Richmond it's 50m but if it's against Richmond the rules don't matter & it's not 50 due to "commonsense" :facepalm :thumbsdown.

Good luck to Stevic and Howorth when they next umpire a Richmond home game. The Tiger Army will be on their backs from first bounce to final siren.

As much as I'd like to agree, the two situations aren't directly comparable. Switkowski is obviously aware of the free kick and fails to give the ball back = 50m. Warner may not, according to the AFL and Stevic, have been aware of the free kick. Therefore discretion is applied.

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Re: State of Umpiring [merged]
« Reply #2154 on: May 28, 2022, 07:34:38 PM »
I’m not sure I could see a rule that allows for common sense , they seem to find new rules each week that disadvantage Richmond.

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Re: State of Umpiring [merged]
« Reply #2155 on: May 28, 2022, 07:36:42 PM »
Dimma's tweet  :thumbsup.


Common sense. Sorry, what?


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Re: State of Umpiring [merged]
« Reply #2156 on: May 28, 2022, 08:36:52 PM »
Fair enough from Dimma.  They don't use common sense all game then apply it to their last decision.

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Re: State of Umpiring [merged]
« Reply #2157 on: May 30, 2022, 06:26:42 AM »
"They've gone the soft call there and the easy way out by not paying that 50m penalty."

@MatthewLloyd18 weighs in on the controversial finish to the Swans' win over the Tigers.

https://twitter.com/FootyonNine/status/1530712380992376832

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Re: State of Umpiring [merged]
« Reply #2158 on: May 30, 2022, 07:09:06 AM »
Sane scenario in a GF but the team awarded the free is 3 points down.

AFL would tick off costing a team a premiership  :huh
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Re: State of Umpiring [merged]
« Reply #2159 on: May 30, 2022, 08:33:57 AM »
I am still in shock with the decision but not surprised given who is currently running the game. Apart from our game, another weekend of watching zero footy. Thanks Gil and his team of flogs :banghead