Can Richmond challenge again in 2022? [merged]

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RICHMOND'S ROUND 13 WIN HINTS AT TIGERS GETTING BACK TO THEIR BEST

By Seb Mottram
SEN
13 June 2022

The Tigers came bounding out of the blocks after their bye against Port Adelaide, booting five goals to two in the first quarter to set up what would be a 12-point win.

In what was ultimately a battle of territory, the ball spent more of the time inside Richmond’s forward half to see them claim the inside 50 count 64-48.

The scrappy nature of the contest saw both sides demonstrate poor efficiency inside 50, Richmond’s 43.8 per cent and Port Adelaide’s 35.4 per cent both well down on season averages.

Entering a contest they needed to win to stay in touch with the top eight, Damien Hardwick had the game on his terms for larger stretches as the Tigers triumphed.

There’s been plenty of debate over the past week as to whether Richmond are back to the Tigers of old, and the footy world won’t truly know until the pointy end of the season.

However, their brand of desperation and surging it forward was evident on Thursday night. Richmond had 68 one percenters, some 13 above their season average, beating the Power’s tally of 47.

As to surging it forward, the Tigers took eight bounces compared to just one for Port Adelaide, Hardwick’s side showcasing their crucial trait of taking territory.

It was the Tigers of old in Round 13, now can they keep it up for the rest of the season?

https://www.sen.com.au/news/2022/06/13/richmonds-round-13-win-hints-at-tigers-getting-back-to-their-best/

[pmac21]

Pies winning today does not help us at all.
Back out the 8. 

[mightytiges]

Pies winning today does not help us at all.
Back out the 8.

We have a game in hand and so need to win next week. If we're good enough then the Pies winning today won't be an issue; if we're not then we don't deserve to be in it anyway and would be just making up the numbers.

Long term as far as the flag goes today's result is good in a way. This year's premiership is now wide open with Melbourne on the slide and back in the chasing top 4 pack. As we learnt the hard way as reigning premiers in 2018, it's the second half of the season that gets you as opposition sides coming at you week after week trying to prove themselves finally wears you down. Rather than bursting out of the blocks in the first half of year, you instead need to pace yourself and make sure the team is peaking when it matters in September.

As far as us goes, our comfortable win over the Pies looks more impressive now. We're actually doing the hard stuff well and our gamestyle is back up and working. It's the dumb unforced schoolboy errors and silly undisciplined frees/50s that are still costing us and keeping opposition sides in games. It ultimately cost us the Swans game and Carlton and Geelong will make us pay if we have that many stupid U10s moments again.

[lamington]

I agree Melbourne falling today actually is a long term win (if we make the . It removes the lustre of the invincibility of say a 2000 Essendon and instead makes them look more like st kilda 04

[Tiger Khosh]

Carlton we were up by like 4 goals midwayish through the 4th quarter.

Saints we were up at 3 qtr time.

Pretty much 1 garbage quarter cost us in both those matches.

Geez we are a blinkered lot. They carlton  held us goaless in the second and we managed just one in the last. 31 shots to 21 suggests it was a bigger loss than it was. Being absolutely smashed in areas we struggle in did not help.They are areas we just don't have coming thru to change it too much.

Everyone would agree Dow Ross RC-D and Martyn were supposed to be taking over that is the only way you can analyse why we have ignored big mids and mids in general.Trouble is no one will acknowledge at just how few have come thru in over ten years despite being successful.

The Saints game well Contested ball and clearances raised their ugly head again. We may well have hung in there but the game was only going one way.
 all i hear is excuses about how we were still in the game late. No mention that we did well to  still be there and were literally being belted in areas. 

Funny no one mentions the WB game we won that one by a margin in the end  but sheesh at the same time the better team lost and it could have been ugly. in the end they wasted so many opportunities it killed em off.

Its hard to have a decent conversation when we become so blinkered. To most tiger supporters all opposition is poo and we are just better no matter how bad we perform.

Mate we could dominate every single statistic and win comfortably and you’d still find something to downplay the result. Go have a look at our contested and clearance numbers in our premiership years. You do realise at 3 qtr time of the blues game we had the same scoring shots. It was an absolute crap final qtr that cost us that one.

Yeah thinking positively about your team as opposed to crapping on them at every single opportunity oh my what has the world come to.

Hmm i see we don't kick a goal in the second quarter and its not a bad quarter.
We lost because the better team won and they could well have won by more and probably should have. It was a game where one end was the scoring end and they flogged for two quarters and belted us in CLEARANCES 40-22 C/P 135- 114 WHICH RESULTED IN A WHOPPING 64 - 40 INSIDE FIFTIES.
And here you are trying to tell us we were unlucky. Take the Blinkers off and come back and see me.
You know if you weren't so invested you would be able to take the rose coloureds off and take a more even approach.

AFL no.2 for quarters won and AFL no.3 for time in front (or the other way round, can’t remember), now with those numbers would you expect us to be in/around the top4 rather than in/around the top8? Don’t know who is ahead of us in those 2 categories but I’d wager it would be Melbourne/lions/dockers. So what that tells me is that we’ve dropped a few games where we haven’t put our dominance on the scoreboard and then haven’t been able to contain the opponent when the game has swung the other way.

But hey that’s just the opinion of one ‘invested’ FAN of the RFC.

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Power Ranking after Round 13

Max Laughton
Foxsports
14 June 2022

9. RICHMOND (7-5, 117.5%)

Last week’s ranking: 9

We happen to know there’s optimism inside Tigerland that they can still make a top-four charge, despite Collingwood’s Queen’s Birthday win keeping them outside of the eight. Richmond has certainly improved over the last six weeks - winning five of their last six clearly tells you that, but they’ve also gone back to the more chaotic game style that worked so well for them in years gone by. Will it be the difference in their rematch with the Blues? Keep in mind back in Round 1, they led by almost three goals at three-quarter-time. It’s a pretty huge game - with a loss they’d only be one game out of the eight, but three games back of the top four, which is a tough gap to close.

https://www.foxsports.com.au/afl/afl-news-2022-power-rankings-after-round-13-analysis-highlights-every-club-ranked-ladder-top-eight-predictions/news-story/1f0249132d9e833dc418fc17fca26419

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Robbo showed this on AFL360 last night.

Richmond's intercept stats since Round 7:

                                                    AFL Rank
Intercept possessions                        #1
Points from intercept possessions       #1
Forward half intercepts                      #1
Points from forward half intercepts     #1
Points from intercepts differential       #1

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Triple premiership Tiger Prestia felt things were generally tracking well and saw parallels with the flag-winning years.

"We're changing little things throughout the season. I feel we did that a lot in our successful years, we came in with a plan and then changed a few things from pre-season to in-season," he said.

"We're starting to get the boys a lot healthier, I think last night was pretty much close to full-strength.

"It just changes the way that we defend and things going forward attacking wise.

"I think we had 76 inside 50s (against Carlton). We'd like to score a lot more from those inside 50s but I think we're doing a lot right and still tweaking things to sharpen up by the end of the year."

Source: AFL website.

[Tiger Khosh]

Win next week and I’ll really start believing.

[tdy]

Have people noticed our second halves have been poor. That's a bad sign for a premiership contender. It's like we're not running out games, just holding on or breaking even. In 2017 our 3rd and 4th quarters we're key to running over teams.

[georgies31]

Have people noticed our second halves have been poor. That's a bad sign for a premiership contender. It's like we're not running out games, just holding on or breaking even. In 2017 our 3rd and 4th quarters we're key to running over teams.

Yes and no it's a concern the fade outs , but last 2 games we managed to win and fight it out that's a good sign for me.We need to get the balance right.

[tdy]

Grand Final winners usually have aa very good 3rd quarter. Ours is somewhat average ATM. But we're winning so steady as she goes I guess.

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https://twitter.com/rohan_connolly/status/1537403246305693696

[Tiger Khosh]

This is shaping to be a great round for us!

[Rampsation]

Weve moved into 6th now