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Re: Trade talk, rumours & innuendo 2024
« Reply #705 on: October 07, 2024, 10:45:43 PM »
I heard somewhere we had interest McHenry from Crows.  He's just been delisted. 
 

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Re: Trade talk, rumours & innuendo 2024
« Reply #706 on: October 07, 2024, 10:52:57 PM »
I heard somewhere we had interest McHenry from Crows.  He's just been delisted. 
 

Jeez if you think our current small forwards are frustrating to watch....pass..... :shh
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Re: Trade talk, rumours & innuendo 2024
« Reply #707 on: October 07, 2024, 11:43:29 PM »
'We're hoping to achieve what's best for Richmond' - Hartley

Richmond GM of Football Talent Blair Hartley spoke to the media this morning as the AFL trade period commences.


https://www.richmondfc.com.au/video/1674129/were-hoping-to-achieve-whats-best-for-richmond-hartley

This was the most nothing interview in the history of interviews lol.


They really drag this trade period thing out for nothing more than their precious trade radio and social media engagement. Garauntee the same number of deals get done if they cut it down to half. 5 days Mon-Fri.

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Re: Trade talk, rumours & innuendo 2024
« Reply #708 on: October 08, 2024, 12:06:31 AM »
The draft itself is the biggest media driven gimmick of all. :shh
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Re: Trade talk, rumours & innuendo 2024
« Reply #709 on: October 08, 2024, 07:19:03 AM »
'We're hoping to achieve what's best for Richmond' - Hartley

Richmond GM of Football Talent Blair Hartley spoke to the media this morning as the AFL trade period commences.


https://www.richmondfc.com.au/video/1674129/were-hoping-to-achieve-whats-best-for-richmond-hartley

This was the most nothing interview in the history of interviews lol.


They really drag this trade period thing out for nothing more than their precious trade radio and social media engagement. Garauntee the same number of deals get done if they cut it down to half. 5 days Mon-Fri.

I know Blair hates doing media but talk about blood from a stone

And just as aside it shouldn't be "We're hoping to achieve..." should be "We will doing what's best for Richmond!"

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Re: Trade talk, rumours & innuendo 2024
« Reply #710 on: October 08, 2024, 07:26:45 AM »
I thought it was good. Giving nobody nothing. A great message to send.
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Re: Trade talk, rumours & innuendo 2024
« Reply #711 on: October 08, 2024, 08:52:27 AM »
What we could have done:

Bolton, Graham + Baker to WCE.

WCE pay Graham $900k/year for 5 years, immediately extend his contract in 2025 for a 6th year on the same money so he's making $4.5mil over 6 years instead of 5. Band 1 compo, RFC get P2.

WCE trade P3 for Bolton. Richmond pays some of Bolton's wage to pay for Graham's silly contract.

Baker goes to WCE in the PSD.

Essentially:
Out - Bolton, Baker, Graham.
In - Pick 2, Pick 3.

WCE get all 3 for Pick 3, daylight robbery.

We get the top 3 picks.

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Re: Trade talk, rumours & innuendo 2024
« Reply #712 on: October 08, 2024, 09:42:43 AM »
be tough and compromising Tigers

Reckon your typo is like his ridiculous “hoping”
What an absurd thing for him to say

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Re: Trade talk, rumours & innuendo 2024
« Reply #713 on: October 08, 2024, 10:35:19 AM »
be tough and compromising Tigers

Reckon your typo is like his ridiculous “hoping”
What an absurd thing for him to say

thanks mines fixed
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Re: Trade talk, rumours & innuendo 2024
« Reply #714 on: October 08, 2024, 01:24:43 PM »
"I think we see the Shai Bolton deal go through. Richmond will target 10 and 11 and little by little we will see progress on these deals. Pick 6 is a good starting point for Dan Rioli." @CalTwomey

https://x.com/traderadio/status/1843458993378996548

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Re: Trade talk, rumours & innuendo 2024
« Reply #715 on: October 08, 2024, 06:35:45 PM »
In 2 working days has there been anything that resembles any sort of work.

My other question is, are we targeting any players in for trade? Or are we just rocking up for the food.
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Re: Trade talk, rumours & innuendo 2024
« Reply #716 on: October 09, 2024, 07:18:35 AM »
THE TIGERS AND THEIR WANTAWAY THREE

The Tigers hold most of the cards as the national draft nears, but which of their big three moves is set to cause a domino effect for the rest of the major movement?

As things presently stand, Richmond will take nine selections into proceedings in late November, and that’s before it orchestrates trades for the imminently departing Daniel Rioli, Shai Bolton and Liam Baker.

The club is currently negotiating with Gold Coast, Fremantle and West Coast respectively, and as those talks progress, so will the rest of this player movement period.

A move for Rioli could be the first penny to drop, with it likely to centre on the Suns’ No. 6 choice and possibly also include a sweetener — say, their early-second-round Pick 29?

If not Rioli, a resolution to the Bolton situation could come first — but that might depend on a potential Fremantle-Melbourne pick exchange.

In all likelihood, the Dockers will need to surrender two of their three first-round picks for Bolton — it’s just a matter of which ones.

They currently have 10, 11 and 18, and the Tigers are said to be pushing for the former two, while the Dockers would prefer to maintain one of 10 and 11.

This is where the Dockers could get creative and force Richmond’s hand.

AFL Media journalist Cal Twomey recently reported Melbourne ‘has interest’ in swooping on one of those three Fremantle picks, with Demons list manager Tim Lamb declaring at Monday’s trade period opening his club “would love” another early pick in what shapes as “an outstanding draft”.

The Dees could offload their future first-rounder for Fremantle’s Pick 11 — which, in a separate point, helps the Dockers start accumulating for their 2025 pursuit of Chad Warner.

Then, if the Bolton exchange ultimately comprises Picks 10 and 18, from there, the avenues for a Baker trade between Richmond and West Coast open up substantially.

While most are predicting West Coast to use the pick it receives from Hawthorn — likely No. 14 — for Tom Barrass in its trade for Baker, the Eagles haven’t been shy about the possibility of splitting their No. 3 choice.

In fact, list boss Matthew Clarke said Pick 3 could “potentially” be included as part of the club’s Baker acquisition.

“We’re open to some other picks in this draft, so if that (Baker trade) can help unlock something like that, we’re open to it,” Clarke told AFL Trade Radio on Monday.

“Like a lot of other clubs, we want to get some talent in, but that (No. 3) could be involved, for sure.

“We’ve had a few clubs talk to (us) about it, and we’ve spoken to some clubs ourselves about what that (a trade) might look like, so that could ramp up.”

For example, Richmond could offer Liam Baker and Pick 10 (from Fremantle) for No. 3.

According to the draft value index, Baker — for the sake of this conversation, let’s say he is worth Pick 14 (1,161 points) — and No. 10 (1,395) combined (2,556) are worth more than No. 3 (2,234).

It gives the Eagles their hard-nosed utility as well as a top-end selection in a highly-touted count.

Completely alternatively, the Eagles could move to strike their agreement with the Hawks for Barrass before simply on-trading No. 14 to the Tigers.

Richmond has also been linked with Brisbane’s Pick 20 as the victorious Lions prepare to match father-son and Academy bids on Levi Ashcroft and Sam Marshall.

There is a world where the Tigers could hold Picks 1, 6 (from Gold Coast), 10 (from Fremantle), 14 (from West Coast), 18 (from Fremantle), 20 (from Brisbane) and 24 at the draft.

There is a raft of possibilities, and we’re hardly closer to knowing which mega move sets the wheels in motion.

https://www.foxsports.com.au/afl/afl-trades-news-rumours-2024-trade-period-domino-effect-clubs-holding-the-cards-richmond-tigers-gold-coast-suns-dan-houston-carlton-blues-collingwood-magpies-analysis/news-story/946e3647fd574c5de9f5cc7769c5b1b1

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Re: Trade talk, rumours & innuendo 2024
« Reply #717 on: October 09, 2024, 07:21:53 AM »
‘The Yze eight’: Tigers primed to dominate draft like an expansion side as HUGE pick haul revealed

Will Faulkner and Jack Jovanovski
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October 9th, 2024


Richmond’s opportunity to head into this year’s draft with a generational draft hand is as alive as it ever has been, as the club negotiates the impending exodus of several premiership players.

With the trade period well and truly underway, the Tigers currently hold a whopping 10 draft picks - three more than any other club - and it looks almost certain to only get stronger.

Speaking on Fox Footy’s Trading Day, St Kilda great Leigh Montagna expressed an optimistic outlook on the expected departures of Daniel Rioli, Liam Baker and Shai Bolton - as well as Jack Graham who has officially landed at West Coast as a free agent.

“If everything goes to plan and Richmond gets all the deals done that they are looking to do … They could have eight picks inside the top 25 (which) can really set them up for their future,” Montagna begun by saying.

“The Yze Eight.

“They’ve currently got Picks 1 and 24. If they get Picks 6 and 23 for Dan Rioli … Pick 14 for Liam Baker, and then Picks 10 and 18 for Shai Bolton as well.

RICHMOND’S 2024 DRAFT HAND(as of Tuesday, October 8 ): Pick 1, 24, 32, 42, 43, 45, 51, 61, 70, 76

But despite their monster haul of five draft picks currently between the range of 32 and 51, the Tigers could well trade all of them for yet another shot higher up the draft order.

And conveniently, a trade of the handful of picks would greatly benefit Brisbane, who are in need of several mid-range selections to help them acquire father-son prospects Levi Ashcroft and Sam Marshall.

“They can get all of them, and there’s one extra pick, too, that we haven’t spoken about … for Richmond to get their hands on Pick 20 — that will come about from a pick-swap with the Brisbane Lions.

“The Brisbane Lions need points for (father-son prospect) Levi Ashcroft and (Academy graduate) Sam Marshall.

“(This haul) can set them up for a long time.”

POTENTIAL PICK SWAP
Richmond receive: Pick 20

Brisbane receive: Picks 32, 42, 43, 45, 51

“It’s an extraordinary haul when you think about it; this is going to fast-track their rebuild,” Trading Day panellist Jay Clark added.

“When does a club get seven or eight picks in one hit? Ross Lyon would give his kidney to get those picks to inject that sort of talent.

The expected exit of Daniel Rioli and Shai Bolton has long been speculated throughout the 2024 season, despite both players contracted at Punt Road until the end of 2027 and 2028 respectively.

But despite their initial intentions of staying at the club where they’ve won multiple premierships, Montagna has urged the Tigers to cut the duo loose for the betterment of their future. 

“This is why I think they have to get these deals done. I know there’s some talk about them wanting more — particularly with Fremantle (for Bolton),” Montagna continued.

“But if they can walk away with this hand, they can’t let this slip and keep players at their club in Rioli (and) Bolton that don’t really want to be there, and are probably going to ask for a trade next year and then lose out on this super draft to really stock up.

“It’s a great opportunity for the Tigers, and what it does is it gives them some real leverage at draft night, because we know live-trading is becoming really important and there are going to be clubs on draft night that are going to come clamouring for some of these first-round picks.

“We know they all want to get an extra pick in this year’s draft; it means Richmond can sit back, and depending on what they’ve already drafted and the hand they’ve got, they might be able to secure some future (capital) on top of what they’ve got.”

There is a world where Richmond at one point in time hold exactly one-third of the competition’s draft picks inside the first 24 selections.

RICHMOND’s POTENTIAL 2024 DRAFT HAND: Pick 1, 6, 10, 14, 18, 20, 23, 24

https://www.foxsports.com.au/afl/afl-trades-news-rumours-2024-richmond-tigers-could-have-best-draft-hand-in-years-what-picks-do-they-have-for-the-draft-this-year-shai-bolton-liam-baker-daniel-rioli-reactions-latest-news/news-story/9ae5ae5747b607fe1e86885112a3b039

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Re: Trade talk, rumours & innuendo 2024
« Reply #718 on: October 09, 2024, 08:44:34 AM »
stuffen stupid article. As if we are given 5 top 50 picks for pick 20. FMD these journos are dumb campaigners

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Re: Trade talk, rumours & innuendo 2024
« Reply #719 on: October 09, 2024, 09:53:21 AM »
The premium seems a little high from us to them but reality is we don’t need all of those picks - we cannot possibly use them and Brisbane needs 2000 points which those picks would give them. I would have preferred to use those picks on Goldie’s pick 13 but that now appears unlikely.
“I find it nearly impossible to make those judgments, but he is certainly up there with the really important ones, he is certainly up there with the Francis Bourkes and the Royce Harts and the Kevin Bartlett and the Kevin Sheedys, there is no doubt about that,” Balme said.