Keep, Trade, Retire or Delist?

[Andyy]

That’s the danger with loading up on picks for a single draft, your bound to get a couple of busts

Yep and sometimes teams get lucky (or pick well) and bail every pick

[the claw]

Been saying list turnover is crucial since this time last year.

We are not going to get that needed turnover and we are not going to have many nd picks. This has been an area they have had all year to come up with a plan to get if not back into the draft then target Out of contract players state league types and F/A's.

[Simonator]

Been saying list turnover is crucial since this time last year.

We are not going to get that needed turnover and we are not going to have many nd picks. This has been an area they have had all year to come up with a plan to get if not back into the draft then target Out of contract players state league types and F/A's.

Why do you think Sonsie, Dow and Smith haven’t received contracts ? Club is leaving those spots open in case we make deals whether it be more picks or players

[Hard Roar Tiger]

Providing we have 2 picks in this year’s draft it means 18 picks since 2021. Add maybe a rookie or 2 this year we have averaged 5 kids per year in 5 years which I think is about right.
11 first rounders in that list with 5 top 10 picks.
If we can emerge with 10-12 as our core in 3-4 years time then we will have successfully reengineered the list we previously built through 2006-2012 that delivered the last set of flags.
That part of the list rebuild will have been done so the next 3 years will be critical to finding the nuggets in the rookie drafts, discards from other clubs that can fill our list needs and then hopefully put the icing on the cake with a marquee free agents going into 2028 or 2029

All we need is the right off field support that delivers the development, strength and conditioning to get the most out of our playing group

[the claw]

Cannot start at the 2021 draft. What we did in 2020 determined our picks in 2021.

We traded Higgins himself a first round pick with pick 21 and a future 4th. From the saints we got pick 17 and a future 2nd in effect we got a small upgrade on pick 21 and a second rounder.  We then traded that pick 17 which had become pick 20 by the time of trade to Geelong who used it on Max Holmes. In return we got their future first that became i believe pick 17 and Tom Brown. The second rounder we got out of all that from the saints became pick 30 and Judson Clarke.

The upshot of the wheeling and dealing is we had just two nd picks in 2020 40 Ryan and 51 Green.

The bottom line in those two seasons we had 7 nd picks and lost Higgins.

We obviously thought we had done enough as far as rebuilds go because we then traded the farm for Taranto and Hopper leaving us with just two ND picks in both 2022 and 2023. Yep they were ready to go and win another. How wrong could they have got it.We have the worst season we have ever had and win just two games.

Thank god for small mercies end of 2024 we have an exodus of players who saw the writing on the wall we win 5 games and finish second last instead of last mainly on the back of playing most of the experienced players we have.

We have not embraced the nd apart from last year through neccesity  and even then  we have hadly cut hard and deep.

So here we are end of 2025 and currently we have yes you guessed it just 2 nd picks again i hope they dont think the job was done last year because it was really just the beginning.

[Willy]

Craw essay season has begun. May god have mercy on us all.

[Chuck17]

Craw essay season has begun. May god have mercy on us all.

Amen brother

[Hard Roar Tiger]

It’s like my wife telling me about her day. I absorb the first 2 lines and then it becomes chocolate land thought bubbles.

[Tigeritis™©®]

It’s like my wife telling me about her day. I absorb the first 2 lines and then it becomes chocolate land thought bubbles.

[the claw]

It’s like my wife telling me about her day. I absorb the first 2 lines and then it becomes chocolate land thought bubbles.

Don't kid ya self your not capable of absorbing two lines.

[one-eyed]

Blair Hartley discussing where Sonsie and Dow sit right now.

Go to 2:50 min mark: https://www.richmondfc.com.au/video/1916195/hell-give-us-some-run-through-the-wing-and-the-half-back-hartley


"It's an unfortunate part of what we have to do. We have to keep spots open. So just through the next little bit while we're working through the pick swap window, we'll have to leave those spots on and that's where it sits with them [Sonsie & Dow] right now." - Blair Hartley

[Hard Roar Tiger]

It’s like my wife telling me about her day. I absorb the first 2 lines and then it becomes chocolate land thought bubbles.

Don't kid ya self your not capable of absorbing two lines.

Are we still talking about your posting?

[Tiger Khosh]

Blair Hartley discussing where Sonsie and Dow sit right now.

Go to 2:50 min mark: https://www.richmondfc.com.au/video/1916195/hell-give-us-some-run-through-the-wing-and-the-half-back-hartley


"It's an unfortunate part of what we have to do. We have to keep spots open. So just through the next little bit while we're working through the pick swap window, we'll have to leave those spots on and that's where it sits with them [Sonsie & Dow] right now." - Blair Hartley

Anyone know how many players we have on our primary list and how many cat a and cat b rookies after trade period?

[taztiger4]

Blair Hartley discussing where Sonsie and Dow sit right now.

Go to 2:50 min mark: https://www.richmondfc.com.au/video/1916195/hell-give-us-some-run-through-the-wing-and-the-half-back-hartley


"It's an unfortunate part of what we have to do. We have to keep spots open. So just through the next little bit while we're working through the pick swap window, we'll have to leave those spots on and that's where it sits with them [Sonsie & Dow] right now." - Blair Hartley

Anyone know how many players we have on our primary list and how many cat a and cat b rookies after trade period?

currently we have

34 on main list
4 on rookie list
1 on cat B list

[Tiger Khosh]

If that is the case then we have 4 max spots on the primary list left and 2 rookie spots left.

I’d imagine that means with 3-4 players coming in through the national draft (depending on whether a bid for kellaway comes before our last pick or not) that both Dow and Sonsie are going to be delisted.

Where the club wants to then rookie them in the preseason draft or not who knows.