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Re: Jack Riewoldt - Triple Coleman medallist [merged]
« Reply #255 on: July 26, 2009, 07:23:23 PM »
Averages for the first 3 years of their respective careers

Nick
1 06 Games 9.5 Disposals 4.3 Marks 0.3 Goals
2 22 Games 14.5 Disposals 8.1 Marks 0.95 Goals
3 22 Games 15.9 Disposals 7.7 Marks 1.36 Goals

Jack
1 08 Games 6.6 Disposals 3.1 Marks 0.88 Goals
2 18 Games 10.8 Disposals 4.8 Marks 1.0 Goals
3* 15 Games 13.4 Disposals 6.9 Marks 1.8 Goals
*so far in 2009

So not quite as much of the ball, but is kicking more goals. Not a bad start to his career for a young key forward.

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Re: Jack Riewoldt - Triple Coleman medallist [merged]
« Reply #256 on: July 26, 2009, 07:27:50 PM »
Averages for the first 3 years of their respective careers

Nick
1 06 Games 9.5 Disposals 4.3 Marks 0.3 Goals
2 22 Games 14.5 Disposals 8.1 Marks 0.95 Goals
3 22 Games 15.9 Disposals 7.7 Marks 1.36 Goals

Jack
1 08 Games 6.6 Disposals 3.1 Marks 0.88 Goals
2 18 Games 10.8 Disposals 4.8 Marks 1.0 Goals
3* 15 Games 13.4 Disposals 6.9 Marks 1.8 Goals
*so far in 2009

So not quite as much of the ball, but is kicking more goals. Not a bad start to his career for a young key forward.
Well done!...  :clapping

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Re: Jack Riewoldt - Triple Coleman medallist [merged]
« Reply #257 on: July 26, 2009, 07:32:10 PM »
Was a silly thread from day one.

PS:Anyone proud of Edwards, been very good this month and has silenced the vitrolic ones.

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Re: Jack Riewoldt - Triple Coleman medallist [merged]
« Reply #258 on: July 26, 2009, 07:35:27 PM »
Was a silly thread from day one.

PS:Anyone proud of Edwards, been very good this month and has silenced the vitrolic ones.

Yes, he has been better.  Both him and Jake King appear to have lifted since Rawlings took over.  They are not 'done deal' for delisting that they both appeared 6 weeks ago.

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Re: Jack Riewoldt - Triple Coleman medallist [merged]
« Reply #259 on: July 26, 2009, 07:38:48 PM »
Averages for the first 3 years of their respective careers

Nick
1 06 Games 9.5 Disposals 4.3 Marks 0.3 Goals
2 22 Games 14.5 Disposals 8.1 Marks 0.95 Goals
3 22 Games 15.9 Disposals 7.7 Marks 1.36 Goals

Jack
1 08 Games 6.6 Disposals 3.1 Marks 0.88 Goals
2 18 Games 10.8 Disposals 4.8 Marks 1.0 Goals
3* 15 Games 13.4 Disposals 6.9 Marks 1.8 Goals
*so far in 2009

So not quite as much of the ball, but is kicking more goals. Not a bad start to his career for a young key forward.
Well done!...  :clapping
What's even better is that his last 3 games have got him 6, 3 & 3 goals, so his current form is very good. Given our next few games are against bottom sides, I'd expect him to come close to averaging over 2 goals a game before the year is over.

Edwards was never going to be delisted as some thought, I'm wrapped to see him playing with confidence again. King was contracted for next year anyway, but his disposal  efficiency is right up there for the past two weeks and his brain fades are greatly reduced. I always thought he'd make a pretty handy tagger, so perhaps he isn't gone just yet.

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Re: Jack Riewoldt - Triple Coleman medallist [merged]
« Reply #260 on: July 26, 2009, 07:47:26 PM »
It's a bit strange Infamy in that King's better play seems to coincide with playing more of a mid-field role.  I wonder if we have unfairly pigeon-holed him as solely a defender?

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Re: Jack Riewoldt - Triple Coleman medallist [merged]
« Reply #261 on: July 26, 2009, 08:00:53 PM »
It's a bit strange Infamy in that King's better play seems to coincide with playing more of a mid-field role.  I wonder if we have unfairly pigeon-holed him as solely a defender?
I've suggested the move on various forums before and been shouted down by the ferals. I think he has the perfect makeup for a tagger. He's fast, extremely hard at it and can clearly get in an opponents head. By playing further up field his disposal issues are also much less of an issue and he can sneak forward for a goal occasionally, funnily enough he's not a bad shot for goal.

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Re: Jack Riewoldt - Triple Coleman medallist [merged]
« Reply #262 on: July 26, 2009, 09:27:36 PM »
Can someone please delete this thread this is genuinely embarrassing to be on here.

*shakes head.

C'mon Pope, we could probably get about 3 top ten draft picks for him now couldn't we?

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Re: Jack Riewoldt - Triple Coleman medallist [merged]
« Reply #263 on: July 27, 2009, 12:21:19 AM »
Get a big quality key forward (or two) up there next to Jack so he gets the 2nd or 3rd best defender each week. That will make him more dangerous to the opposition. At the moment we are using Jack and Mitch as our main goalscoring sources. They need help and more size next to them to help out and straighten the whole side up.

100% spot on. We should try and do a player for player trade to get this type of player.

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Re: Jack Riewoldt - Triple Coleman medallist [merged]
« Reply #264 on: July 27, 2009, 01:23:34 AM »
Get a big quality key forward (or two) up there next to Jack so he gets the 2nd or 3rd best defender each week. That will make him more dangerous to the opposition. At the moment we are using Jack and Mitch as our main goalscoring sources. They need help and more size next to them to help out and straighten the whole side up.

100% spot on. We should try and do a player for player trade to get this type of player.
You have to trade quality for quality and we don't have much to trade away
Stop looking for the quick fix and build from the draft

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Re: Jack Riewoldt - Triple Coleman medallist [merged]
« Reply #265 on: July 27, 2009, 01:33:37 AM »
Its hard to build from the draft when you dont have good picks. It will be harder still when Gold Coast and West Sydney comes in. In fact building from the draft would be almost impossible imho. Lets not forget, we got Mitch Morton as a trade from another club. Essendon got Prismall, its not there fault we pulled the wrong rain and went with Thomson. We could have had Prismall. Anyway, trading for a specific need isnt bad. Im not advocating wholesale recruiting just a recruiting play for 1 player. A power forward who can kick straight. That is all.

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Re: Jack Riewoldt - Triple Coleman medallist [merged]
« Reply #266 on: July 27, 2009, 01:41:12 AM »
Yeah cause they're a dime a dozen and can be traded for a 3rd-4th round pick like Morton & Prismall were

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Re: Jack Riewoldt - Triple Coleman medallist [merged]
« Reply #267 on: July 27, 2009, 03:29:18 AM »
Jumping Jack keeps his team, and others, happy
Jake Niall | July 27, 2009

THE first Richmond player to whom Alastair Clarkson should be sending a thank-you card for keeping Hawthorn within reach of the eight is Jack Riewoldt.

When Matthew Lloyd couldn't stand up because of his wounded heel, and Scott Lucas was equally ineffectual without an excuse, besides his age, Riewoldt played what his coach Jade Rawlings believed was his best game in the AFL, given "the fact that it was in a big game".

If Richmond was well served by Ben Cousins, Brett Deledio and Trent Cotchin, none made as telling a contribution as the Nordic Tasmanian who contributed 6.1 of his extended family's 11.2 score over two games.

Riewoldt had four opponents. He started with a first-year player, Michael Hurley, and finished up on Dustin Fletcher, a 17-year superstar, with Adam McPhee and Tayte Pears the others who failed to quell his influence.

Riewoldt's ability to mark the ball, to read the game and out-smart quicker opponents has been evident since his debut. But there were a few slows on him, the first being his capacity to convert, especially the crucial shots — some have wondered whether this was family trait, though his cousin has been pretty accurate of late.

"Our conversion has been a bit poor, and myself has been a bit poor over the start of the first sort of 12 weeks," said Riewoldt. "The last sort of three weeks, I've really been back on track and kicking straight …"

He said there was "nothing wrong" with his set-shot technique, and, from what one can gather, he kicks straight and long at training. "It's just a confidence thing and I've got my confidence back now and I know I'm a good kick and the rest of the forwards know we're good kicks."

The other "slow" on Riewoldt was his modest leg speed for a player who, at 192 centimetres, is at the shorter end of key forwards. But Riewoldt also has two significant assets that were on display yesterday: his footy smarts and the age-old immutable skill that has enabled Lloyd to boot more than 900 goals — the ability to take a mark. At least twice yesterday, he flew very high attempting screamers that he couldn't quite hold. "Got a couple of nice rides today, couldn't grab hold of them, which is a bit disappointing."

Riewoldt has strong hands, and despite his lack of pace, possesses an above-average leap, which compensates for the fact that he doesn't burn grass like Buddy Franklin; on the footballer-athlete scale, he tips firmly in the direction of the former.

While Riewoldt was the main target yesterday, Rawlings acknowledges that, long-term, he would be best with a tall power forward alongside him. "I think he needs another foil, definitely. I think (Jayden) Post is trying to be that, and I couldn't be happier with his development and his work rate. There's a bloke who wears No. 12 (Matthew Richardson) who might be able to give him a bit of chop out when he comes back for a little while; we'll see how long that is.

"But definitely I think Jack will work well in the future with another in behind him, because he shows he can play full-forward and centre half-forward equally as well."

Riewoldt added on the issue of a power-forward accomplice: "Long term it'd be nice to get a power forward down there. But you look at Jayden Post, he's 194-195 (centimetres). He's probably the key, the answer to the thing."

If Hawthorn owes Riewoldt, there's some give-and-take between the parties considering that the Tiger forward has been tutored one-on-one by former Hawk great Dermott Brereton, a part-time teacher of forwards at Punt Road. Brereton, he said, had been particularly helpful in improving his leading.

"Dermott, he's just explaining, going back to the basics and working on those again. He's been a massive help, probably couldn't have asked for a better coach actually," he said.

Riewoldt was modest and laconic about his performance, noting that the delivery from the midfield was "sensational". Surprisingly enough, aided by the inclusions of Cousins and Cotchin, Richmond truly did use the ball by foot better than the Bombers.

"It was my week this week," said Riewoldt. "It might be Mitch Morton or Robin Nahas or Jayden Post next week." And Jack's week meant as much to Hawthorn and Carlton as it did to the Tigers.

http://www.realfooty.com.au/news/rfnews/jack-keeps-them-all-happy/2009/07/26/1248546629298.html?page=fullpage#contentSwap1

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Re: Jack Riewoldt - Triple Coleman medallist [merged]
« Reply #268 on: July 27, 2009, 03:04:55 PM »
Anyone who thinks we should get rid of Jack are kidding themself. He will be a star when he has some friends in the forward line and no im not talking about that loser Hughes i believe that man is Post.

Post has shown more in a few games than Hughes has done in his whole career

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Re: Jack Riewoldt - Triple Coleman medallist [merged]
« Reply #269 on: July 27, 2009, 05:20:36 PM »
Anyone who thinks we should get rid of Jack are kidding themself. He will be a star when he has some friends in the forward line and no im not talking about that loser Hughes i believe that man is Post.

Post has shown more in a few games than Hughes has done in his whole career



Idiot post.

Leave Post alone, none of this "Here comes the Postman" just yet. He's a young kid and lets keep expectations low.

Hughes bagged 6 goals in a half against Port in about his 10th game. The wraps on him were massive. Hughes is stil young and you never know, I still think he's shaky since Polaks accident and is probably very home sick. I can see Cleve going to Port Adelaide an be tainted as the next Tredrea.
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