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Re: Footy Classified
« Reply #105 on: June 05, 2007, 05:05:12 PM »
You're right HKT, Francis has big wraps on Tas.

My point is you need depth in all positions. You need back-up. You need alternative options for different match-ups or to push a KPP forward or back to get a mismatch or if a key defender is being beaten on the day. Sure Polak and Thursty look like forming our CHB and FB respectively for the next decade but one serious injury to either of them and we're in trouble again along our spine. We still rely too heavily on Joel to hold the defence together and play on bigger opponents. McGuane and Moore even if they come on aren't key defenders. More thirdman talls. Whilst the number of talls on our list has improved under Plough we still need more for a balanced list.
MT,

I agree with your points.  However like all fans I have my favourites.  I watched Tas very closely a couple of times late last year before the rookie draft and was super impressed with the skills.  I was lucky enough to be sitting with the dads of a couple of players and they were similarly impressed.  Since then I'm following him as closely as I can and he's starting to do the right things.

So I will contradict myself here.  For list balance he probably shouldn't be there.  But I like what I see and think he may turn into a very skilled player for us.

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Re: Footy Classified
« Reply #106 on: June 05, 2007, 05:29:42 PM »
MT,

I agree with your points.  However like all fans I have my favourites.  I watched Tas very closely a couple of times late last year before the rookie draft and was super impressed with the skills.  I was lucky enough to be sitting with the dads of a couple of players and they were similarly impressed.  Since then I'm following him as closely as I can and he's starting to do the right things.

So I will contradict myself here.  For list balance he probably shouldn't be there.  But I like what I see and think he may turn into a very skilled player for us.

No probs HKT. My point wasn't a go at Tas. I hope he does live up to the hopes many others have on him. We need foot smart and skilled players too.
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Re: Footy Classified
« Reply #107 on: June 05, 2007, 05:41:33 PM »
Just in case we missed anythiing, this is a summary of the interview:

GL:  Is it your most difficult time in footy?

TW:  I’d say so.  From a coaching point of view, never had a losing streak like this one – four was the most at any one time.  Been a trying time, to say the least.

CW:  Much was made of preseason media briefing.  She wasn’t the only one critical at the time, but she was critical.  Looking back, was it a self-fulfilling prophecy to say that you weren’t going to be super competitive in an ongoing sense until 2011?

TW:  Never said we wouldn’t be competitive till 2011.  What was said that we might have 12 months holding pattern, depending on the development of some of our younger players.   And then thought that there was a window of opportunity to improve in the next 18 months, but our list management wouldn’t be in the shape that we would like it in, in the shape that WC Eagles are in now probably for another 3 or 4 seasons because of inherited problems of the list.

CW:  Greg Miller admitted it backfired.

TW:  Absolutely.  He wouldn’t do it again, because you don’t get the opportunity of reporting it yourself.  He thought there were only two or three reporters there, but other reporters who weren’t there jumped onto the issue and didn’t think it was reported right from day one.

CH:  You interpreted differently to what Caro wrote.

CW:  We’ve talked about it, but in PR terms it hurt TW.  It coincided with a Bulldogs article which he copped criticism for as well.  Greg Miller also said it was too difficult for Terry to write about the Bulldogs now.

TW:  He hasn’t heard that from anyone at the club at all, but I want to move on.  He was asked to write an article about the Bulldogs by the Herald Sun.  He wrote it as honestly as he could.  He gets into trouble because he’s brutally honest.  Not intending to change that.

CW:   How are you and Greg?  She thinks he’s made poor recruiting decisions and thinks he took too long for clean out for what TW says is necessary to make the club rise.  Is he the man to lead us out of the mire.  He’s got lots of roles.  Are you two in alignment with what’s happening at the club?

TW:   Absolutely, a hundred per cent.  One of the reasons he went to the club was because Greg was there.  If you see the amount of work he does – corporate wise etc to get the funds to help the footy department, running a recruiting division and keeping them together when we didn’t have a recruiting officer, done an inordinate amount of work.

CW:   Has he had too much to do?

TW:   I think he has, but that’s not his fault.  That’s where we were at that stage.  From the time he arrived, we were the lowest of the low from a budget point of view and the lowest spending of any club in the competition.  Knew that when he took on the job and knew that it would change over the next couple of years.  Greg has been the main one to be really pushing that along.

WC:  10-0 – you’ve escaped scrutiny from media.  Does he consider himself an untouchable?

TW:   He gets his fair share of criticism on talkback radio from people with axes to grind. Coaches at certain times in their contractual situation, more so than anything else, if people don’t believe there’s any chance of anything happening -  he thinks that this has been what has been so good at Richmond, that there hasn’t been any question from the board of management about the situation of where he’s at and we’ve been really stable from that point of view.  What happens, he doesn’t thinks the media don’t write about the questions if there’s not going to be a question there.

CH:   Why didn’t you clean the place out two years ago?  Why didn’t we go down the Alastair Clarkson path.

TW:   We believe we did clean it out.  We turned over 12 players in the first year.  Asks if you can turn over 20 in a year lol.

CH:   But you did top up – Mark Graham etc.

TW:   One or two.  Certainly there wasn’t anyone we took that was costing us anything.

CH:   Supporters want to see youth come through rapidly.  Hawks further progressed.

TW:   Are they further progressed on the back of 23 and 24 year olds or are they further progressed on the back of 19 and 20 years olds.  Got guys like Boyle coming through – that group of 23-24 years olds that they’ve got that we haven’t.  So they were already in the Hawthorn system. 

CH: (Thickhead)   But have we played those guys?

TW:   We haven’t got those 23 and 24 year olds.  Re not playing Cleve Hughes and JON – the Hawks haven’t played Dowler and Muston as well.  That’s why the Hawks are in such great shape because they’ve still got those kids coming through as well.  We didn’t have 23 and 24 years olds and that’s our greatest problem.  If you expect 18 and 19 years olds to deliver, they won’t stand up. 

GL:   Isn’t it time now we start playing the kids or is it going to be too much for them.

TW:   We’re rotating and turning them over with players of a similar age bracket.  Against Adelaide – we only had one player (Kingsley) over 21 that was available for us to play.  All we had available was kids.  If we were just sitting there and saying they’re the best kids for our future, we would just play them.  We’re still playing the guys who deserve a guernsey.  We’ve got so many the young kids because that’s our lot. So we’re replacing a Riewoldt with a Hughes or a Schulz with a Hughes, all around the same age bracket.

CW:    Do you regret describing the club as a train wreck?

TW:   From a list management point of view it was, and we just had so many players 26 and above that were going nowhere.  Talk about a club that were perennial 9th and at some stage we had to get rid of those guys to give ourselves an opportunity.  It went further.  It went to our feeder club at Coburg who were 26 and 27 years as well.


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Re: Footy Classified
« Reply #108 on: June 05, 2007, 07:39:42 PM »
Seemed like Hutchy was gagged

 :o :o you're gagging arent you (no pun intended) ;D

Maybe Hutchy is just goose who hasn't got a clue about what's going on at richmond or a clue about anything for that matter :help

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Re: Footy Classified
« Reply #109 on: June 05, 2007, 07:47:31 PM »
i thought terry was going to discuss why they recruited KK openly and didnt shirk the issue. i thought that the panle just cut him off and went to a break and didnt give him time to  finish what he was about to say

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Re: Footy Classified
« Reply #110 on: June 05, 2007, 07:59:04 PM »
Top stuff Moi. Thanks for that  :thumbsup :cheers  :bow. Hutchy is a thickhead  ;D.

Agree X. They wanted to get Plough off and Aker on.



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Re: Footy Classified
« Reply #111 on: June 05, 2007, 08:17:26 PM »
Seemed like Hutchy was gagged

 :o :o you're gagging arent you (no pun intended) ;D

Maybe Hutchy is just goose who hasn't got a clue about what's going on at richmond or a clue about anything for that matter :help

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Re: Footy Classified
« Reply #112 on: June 05, 2007, 08:20:29 PM »
can tell you he told a few porky pies .
he and miller arent as chummy chummy as they used to be

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Re: Footy Classified
« Reply #113 on: June 05, 2007, 08:42:26 PM »
If the RFC played chinese whispers we'd be premiers  :blah

Seemed like Hutchy was gagged

 :o :o you're gagging arent you (no pun intended) ;D

Maybe Hutchy is just goose who hasn't got a clue about what's going on at richmond or a clue about anything for that matter :help

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Re: Footy Classified
« Reply #114 on: June 05, 2007, 09:03:58 PM »

terry's excuse is that we don't have "23-24 year old players" ...

bad excuse !!!

i believe we have recruited the wrong players ... not all ...

i believe terry is probably a good coach ...

but he isn't getting the best out of the players ...

i don't know if its the players ... coach's game plan ...

its something

0 wins from 10 matches ... thats on track to fitzroys record ...

though i believe we will win matches with brown and simmonds back ...

both coach and players to blame ...

last week was the players fault !!!

they seriously looked like the CBF !

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Re: Footy Classified
« Reply #115 on: June 05, 2007, 09:18:25 PM »
can tell you he told a few porky pies .
he and miller arent as chummy chummy as they used to be
Maybe, but unlike some he doesn't publicly stick the knife in  :P

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Re: Footy Classified
« Reply #116 on: June 05, 2007, 09:36:01 PM »
can tell you he told a few porky pies .
he and miller arent as chummy chummy as they used to be
Maybe, but unlike some he doesn't publicly stick the knife in  :P

Your must be absolutely joking ?
Its amazing how many people make comments like there Terrys best friends. This is the same bloke who screwed the doggies and excepted money from Sydney .. And dont worry Moi, I have told him too his face.

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Re: Footy Classified
« Reply #117 on: June 12, 2007, 12:00:56 AM »
Caro says just a mention about Richmond going into the break without a win. They've been admirable and only really had one bad game but as Wayne says non wins and just a draw is terrible. Lots of problems at Richmond and it's not Terry.

Carey then comes in with something about Miller but is cut short before he hardly gets a work out by Lyon saying we haven't got time this week to talk about Richmond and ends the show with the coaches' votes.

No substance yet again  ::).
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Re: Footy Classified
« Reply #118 on: June 12, 2007, 12:22:05 AM »
Caro would be better off shutting her mouth and stop talking about the Tigers altogether.
Gary Lyon is the main reason why I do not listen to MMM as he just talks
garbage and thinks his opinion is the only correct one. I have just had enough
of both Caro's and Gary's fundamentalist dogma. Its one thing to host a program or
write an article regarding a certain topic it is another thing all together to use your position
as a forum of righteousness and absolute correctness.  :chuck :chuck :chuck :chuck :chuck :chuck :chuck :chuck :chuck :chuck :chuck :chuck :chuck :chuck :chuck :chuck :chuck :chuck :chuck :chuck :chuck :chuck :chuck :chuck :chuck :chuck :chuck :chuck :chuck :chuck :chuck :chuck :chuck :chuck :chuck :chuck :chuck :chuck :chuck :chuck

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Re: Footy Classified
« Reply #119 on: June 12, 2007, 09:02:03 AM »
And as for Hutchy, well, don't even get me started on Hutchy  :whistle