Carlton-Judd threads [merged]

[blaisee]

news just in

we dont trust the blues

west coast is the team we will assist

Pick 1 to the coasters or Judd guaranteed to be a tiger

[mightytiges]

All we need to do is say to the Eagles we'll give pick you pick 2 and you let Judd go through to the PSD. Then it's up to Carlton whether they cough up their pick 1.

  excellent idea

Tad confused here.  Why would it be "we'll give you pick 2 and you let Judd go through to the PSD.  Shouldnt it be we give you pick two, go tell Carlton and if they dont give you pick1 WE WANT HIM NOW.  Just because he slips to the PSD doesnt mean we own him does it, he can still reject? 

During trade week a player has the right to refuse to be traded but in the PSD he can't. All he can do is put a price on his own head and the first club that is willing to pay it is where he goes.

[mightytiges]

We don't need to make an official offer yet. Just hint to the Eagles that we are very interested as Miller has already done. All we need to do at this stage is to know what the Eagles are thinking and if they start to waver from wanting pick 1 we then wave the pick 2 carrot in front of them.

news just in

we dont trust the blues

west coast is the team we will assist

Pick 1 to the coasters or Judd guaranteed to be a tiger

What Carlton would really hate now is Judd saying he wouldn't really care if he ends up at Richmond. It would force the Blues to cough up pick 1 otherwise no deal.

Idiotic Carlton fans tonight are gloating already on the radio about where Judd will be playing in their side. He's not signed and sealed yet bluebaggers  .

[rogerd3]

We don't need to make an official offer yet. Just hint to the Eagles that we are very interested as Miller has already done. All we need to do at this stage is to know what the Eagles are thinking and if they start to waver from wanting pick 1 we then wave the pick 2 carrot in front of them.

news just in

we dont trust the blues

west coast is the team we will assist

Pick 1 to the coasters or Judd guaranteed to be a tiger

What Carlton would really hate now is Judd saying he wouldn't really care if he ends up at Richmond. It would force the Blues to cough up pick 1 otherwise no deal.

Idiotic Carlton fans tonight are gloating already on the radio about where Judd will be playing in their side. He's not signed and sealed yet bluebaggers  .

wouldnt surprise at all, isnt the eagles B&f tonight.

i think we have played the game well so far, will we see a meeting between the management of judd and RFC early next week...perhaps just perhaps.

[tigersalive]

stuff that.

Drug culture>Tanking culture.   Lets deal with West Coast. 

Would make we sick to see us "gang up" with those filthy Blues.

HATE HATE HATE HATE HATE. 

I think I make my point.

[tigersalive]

All we need to do is say to the Eagles we'll give pick you pick 2 and you let Judd go through to the PSD. Then it's up to Carlton whether they cough up their pick 1.

  excellent idea

Tad confused here.  Why would it be "we'll give you pick 2 and you let Judd go through to the PSD.  Shouldnt it be we give you pick two, go tell Carlton and if they dont give you pick1 WE WANT HIM NOW.  Just because he slips to the PSD doesnt mean we own him does it, he can still reject? 

During trade week a player has the right to refuse to be traded but in the PSD he can't. All he can do is put a price on his own head and the first club that is willing to pay it is where he goes.

Awesome MT.  Rock and roll.  We should move Heaven and earth to isolate the Blues instead of this alliance crap and go to the eagles for every way to get Judd to us. 

GO TIGES!

[mightytiges]

We don't need to make an official offer yet. Just hint to the Eagles that we are very interested as Miller has already done. All we need to do at this stage is to know what the Eagles are thinking and if they start to waver from wanting pick 1 we then wave the pick 2 carrot in front of them.

news just in

we dont trust the blues

west coast is the team we will assist

Pick 1 to the coasters or Judd guaranteed to be a tiger

What Carlton would really hate now is Judd saying he wouldn't really care if he ends up at Richmond. It would force the Blues to cough up pick 1 otherwise no deal.

Idiotic Carlton fans tonight are gloating already on the radio about where Judd will be playing in their side. He's not signed and sealed yet bluebaggers  .

wouldnt surprise at all, isnt the eagles B&f tonight.

i think we have played the game well so far, will we see a meeting between the management of judd and RFC early next week...perhaps just perhaps.

All clubs meet with each other on Monday on the first trade morning. They'll need something to talk about  .

Yep the Eagles B&F is on now.

[mightytiges]

All we need to do is say to the Eagles we'll give pick you pick 2 and you let Judd go through to the PSD. Then it's up to Carlton whether they cough up their pick 1.

  excellent idea

Tad confused here.  Why would it be "we'll give you pick 2 and you let Judd go through to the PSD.  Shouldnt it be we give you pick two, go tell Carlton and if they dont give you pick1 WE WANT HIM NOW.  Just because he slips to the PSD doesnt mean we own him does it, he can still reject? 

During trade week a player has the right to refuse to be traded but in the PSD he can't. All he can do is put a price on his own head and the first club that is willing to pay it is where he goes.

Awesome MT.  Rock and roll.  We should move Heaven and earth to isolate the Blues instead of this alliance crap and go to the eagles for every way to get Judd to us. 

GO TIGES!

Yep Divide and Rule 

Billy on SEN says we're trading picks 2 and 18 for Judd so it must be true 

[Rodgerramjet]

news just in

we dont trust the blues

west coast is the team we will assist

Pick 1 to the coasters or Judd guaranteed to be a tiger

I agree.

Swan is trying to position the PR onto the foolishness of West Coast to even consider letting Judd go for nothing in the PSD. West Coast have to wear this potential ground swell of criticism that this Swan article is attempting to generate from the masses if they want to get what they want.  We have to promote and make it OK for the West Coast to go down this line if we have any chance of getting Judd.

Here is a big point :-  Pratt has told Swan to "Get it over the line"  or some such statement.

I just hope Miller doesn't stuff this up. It's going to get pretty intense.

[Ramps]

Carltons big Hotels deal where they were gonna get profits from heaps of hotels has died in the arse. Werent they gonna make millions from that venture?

[Rodgerramjet]

Carltons big Hotels deal where they were gonna get profits from heaps of hotels has died in the behind. Werent they gonna make millions from that venture?

Ramps I think (not 100%) that program died with the last board before Pratt.

[mightytiges]

Carltons big Hotels deal where they were gonna get profits from heaps of hotels has died in the behind. Werent they gonna make millions from that venture?

Weren't they at one stage (pre-Pratt) going to turn Princes Park into some disneyland thing that would've cost something like $27 million to build when they were already $11 million in the red?

They are also receiving special charity (formerly CBF) payments from the AFL for being a finanical basket case over recent years yet they are allowed to chase a Judd  .

[mightytiges]

wouldnt surprise at all, isnt the eagles B&f tonight.

Judd didn't finish in the top 6 of the Eagles B&F tonight. Our offer has thus fallen to pick 19  .

[one-eyed]

Tuesday deadline on Judd
Digby Beacham | October 6, 2007 | The West Australian/Age

WEST COAST has until Tuesday to send premiership captain Chris Judd to Carlton on the terms demanded by the Blues or face the prospect of getting nothing in return for the departing 2004 Brownlow medallist.

Judd and his management are believed to be desperate for the Eagles and Carlton to strike a suitable trade within 36 hours of the trade period starting on Monday morning.

The 24-year-old is eager to avoid a drawn-out saga.

Judd's manager Paul Connors has an excellent record of getting departing players to their requested club and is monitoring negotiations. It is believed he will strongly advise West Coast not to delay any dealings that would jeopardise Judd going to Carlton.

West Coast has demanded adequate compensation for losing Judd and emphasised that it wants the Blues' prized No. 1 and No. 3 picks at next month's national draft.

But the Eagles are not in a position to stand firm and face the prospect of losing the league's premier midfielder for nothing in the pre-season draft.

The Blues have sufficient room in the salary cap to accommodate Judd on a seven-figure salary a season for two years.

Such a price tag would rule out any hope of Richmond jumping in front of Carlton and acquiring him with its first selection in the pre-season draft.

Carlton has pick No. 2 in that draft, but would prefer to provide Judd with a five-year, $6 million deal, allowing it suitable flexibility in the salary cap for future drafts and player retentions.

It was thought initially that Carlton would be willing to provide selections three and 20, along with strapping young key forward Josh Kennedy, taken at No. 4 in the 2005 national draft.

That since has been whittled down to three and Kennedy, who has played 22 games in two seasons with the Blues after being recruited from East Fremantle. That appears the most likely finish at the trade table.

Carlton football operations manager Steven Icke and Eagles recruiting manager Trevor Woodhouse had talks about Judd during the week. Woodhouse and his brother, football operations manager Steve, will represent the Eagles in trade dealings on Monday.

http://realfooty.com.au/news/news/tuesday-deadline-on-judd/2007/10/05/1191091368158.html

[one-eyed]

Don't help Blues: Bartlett
Steve Butler | October 6, 2007 | The Age

RICHMOND legend Kevin Bartlett has urged his old club to ignore any trade deal to help arch-enemy Carlton get Chris Judd and do whatever it can to lure the former West Coast captain to Tigerland.

Bartlett said the club should use its second pick in the national draft if the Eagles and the Blues could not break a negotiation deadlock on who should own the first selection.

The five-time club champion said the club should not consider helping such a bitter rival win the services of the game's best player if it had its own chance of securing him.

"I don't think the Tigers should be getting into bed helping Carlton get Chris Judd — they should be getting him themselves," Bartlett said.

"If Richmond's got the financial backing and the room in their salary cap and they've got the second draft pick, I think it should be all guns blazing. He'd mean a lot to the Tigers — he'd be great for promotion, he'd be good for marketing, he'd be great for membership. He brings a lot of things to the table."

Richmond football director Greg Miller said this week that the club had not chased a trade deal involving getting Judd to Punt Road Oval. But if the 2004 Brownlow medallist got through to the pre-season draft, the Tigers had room in the salary cap and the financial backing to be able to take him with their first pick.

The Age understands West Coast remains open to a trade deal with Richmond if Carlton refuses to part with its No. 1 pick in the national draft.

http://www.realfooty.com.au/news/news/dont-help-blues-bartlett/2007/10/05/1191091368179.html