GC17, West Sydney - Need to go for top kids in next 2 drafts or we won't get any

[Hellenic Tiger]

Richmond will now hang onto Raines and McGuane until Gold Coast comes in. We probably need to trade 1 player of reasonable note for a decent pick if we can in this years draft as well. If we lose all games in the next 3 weeks I will be well and truly on the tank bandwagon.

yep...got no problem with that what so ever.....i'm fine with tanking provided we put in good performances with kids on the park....may as well tank while we can....priority picks dont' come by very often....esp good when this is another super draft...short term disapointement leads to brighter horizons..

I was advocating this last week peggles. Priority picks don't come around too often and we need to guard ourselves with as much quality talent as we can otherwise these two AFL pet projects will send clubs like us if the talent we already have aint that talented back to the stone age.

[Judge Roughneck]

We pretty much require a top 6 pick and need to aim for another high quailty prospect CHF type to add to Reiwoldt/Hughes.

Having not drafted a Gumbleton/Hawkins/Franklin type looks our great weakness down the track.

[mightytiges]

We pretty much require a top 6 pick and need to aim for another high quailty prospect CHF type to add to Reiwoldt/Hughes.

Having not drafted a Gumbleton/Hawkins/Franklin type looks our great weakness down the track.

We haven't drafted a tall with a top 10 pick since Ottens. That's over 10 years ago! 

Yep we need to go after one in this year's draft. Naitanui, Hurley, Trengrove (although he's gone for the season) are the only ones I can think of that are rated top 5/10 picks. I haven't seen the U18's this year live yet to judge any of the other draftees like a Watts.   

[Judge Roughneck]

We pretty much require a top 6 pick and need to aim for another high quailty prospect CHF type to add to Reiwoldt/Hughes.

Having not drafted a Gumbleton/Hawkins/Franklin type looks our great weakness down the track.

We haven't drafted a tall with a top 10 pick since Ottens. That's over 10 years ago! 

Yep we need to go after one in this year's draft. Naitanui, Hurley, Trengrove (although he's gone for the season) are the only ones I can think of that are rated top 5/10 picks. I haven't seen the U18's this year live yet to judge any of the other draftees like a Watts.   

What ya talking about? We drafted JON topm 10 

We have won too many games for Naitanui. I dont want Hurley, nor a kid thats gone for the season.

[mightytiges]

We pretty much require a top 6 pick and need to aim for another high quailty prospect CHF type to add to Reiwoldt/Hughes.

Having not drafted a Gumbleton/Hawkins/Franklin type looks our great weakness down the track.

We haven't drafted a tall with a top 10 pick since Ottens. That's over 10 years ago! 

Yep we need to go after one in this year's draft. Naitanui, Hurley, Trengrove (although he's gone for the season) are the only ones I can think of that are rated top 5/10 picks. I haven't seen the U18's this year live yet to judge any of the other draftees like a Watts.   

What ya talking about? We drafted JON topm 10 

We have won too many games for Naitanui. I dont want Hurley, nor a kid thats gone for the season.

Not a Hurley fan Bents?

I guessing you're joking about JON being a tall when we could have had Mitch Clark instead.

[Infamy]

Watts would be nice, then Hurley as a 2nd option

[one-eyed]

Now they want 3 straight drafts to themselves

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West Sydney could raid draft cream from 2010-2012
Jon Pierik | July 31, 2008

 THE AFL'S West Sydney franchise could ask for priority picks in the national drafts from 2010-12 in a bid to ensure it is immediately competitive.

AFL NSW chief executive Dale Holmes yesterday outlined this option as part of a presentation to club chiefs on the first day of a two-day conference at Yuroke, outside Melbourne.

West Sydney is set to become the league's 18th team in 2012 - a year after the Gold Coast franchise has joined.

Holmes presented an update on West Sydney's "seven streams of work".

"We gave them an overview of the opportunities and the challenges, and gave them a sense of where we are making some good ground," Holmes said.

"It encompasses looking at facilities, stadia and asset developments for the club and revenue streams and the way we can develop the fan base."

A key issue for the club, the AFL and television networks is giving West Sydney every chance to taste success in its formative years in a market dominated by rugby league.

As well as wanting exclusive access to young NSW and ACT talent in certain areas, West Sydney may ask for first dibs at the game's best talent in three straight national drafts.

The Gold Coast is expected to raid the 2010 draft.

"Our draft paper is looking at participating in the national draft in 2010, 2011, potentially 2012," Holmes said.

"Whether that straddles over two or three drafts, we are just looking at the options there."

While Collingwood president Eddie McGuire wants a rethink of the AFL's ambitious expansion plans because of tightening global finances, Holmes said clubs still backed the move.

"I think there is conviction about the need to grow the game into the northern markets," Holmes said.

Club chiefs will also be addressed by GC17 boss John Witheriff.

Club stadium deals and special assistance for poorer clubs are other agenda items.

http://www.news.com.au/heraldsun/sport/afl/story/0,26576,24103936-19742,00.html

[wayne]

Let them have their 3 drafts in a row..... on one condition.

Greg Beck is their recruiter/list manager. 

[mightytiges]

With Miller and his love of chasing the big fish gone, I guess we'll be fairly quiet participants during trade week and we'll keep hold of our picks especially our first pick. Not a bad thing.

[harry bosch]

Depends on who we replace him though?

Interesting article i saw somewhere about C Schwab and his penchance for chasing the big name like Miller...
Doesn't inspire confidence if he does get the gig...

More than anything i hope millers replacement is someone who thinks the best way to improve a list and keep it strong is by drafting kids
and rarely trading for players..

[Stripes]

I have a question for you - in three years when our forcast window begins to open, who will we have to replace Simmonds? Ruckman typically take longer to develop than other player types so the question for us and the club is do we believe Gus and/or Putt will be ready to step into the position?

It is a big risk so recruiting a young ruckman such as Warnock for a 2nd round pick could actually be the wisest option to take in the long run because it is the one glaring weakeness we have.

Stripes

[Ramps]

Im not against trading, for example Mitch Morton was a very good trade, if we can find another trade like this then we should do it.

[mightytiges]

Morton came cheapish at a 3rd round pick. It's trading away your early picks (a club's future) that gets clubs in strife down the track.

I have a question for you - in three years when our forcast window begins to open, who will we have to replace Simmonds? Ruckman typically take longer to develop than other player types so the question for us and the club is do we believe Gus and/or Putt will be ready to step into the position?

It is a big risk so recruiting a young ruckman such as Warnock for a 2nd round pick could actually be the wisest option to take in the long run because it is the one glaring weakeness we have.

Stripes

Well if you believe some of the rumours Warnock to Richmond is a done deal but I find that hard to believe. With Melbourne and Carlton also circling for a ruckman that will push Warnock's trade price up. Cameron Wood cost the Pies a late 1st round pick last year for instance. We would need Warnock to come out and say to Freo he wants to go home and we're the only club he wants to go to and then hope the AFL, afraid of the free agency push from the AFLPA, will then be keen to push a deal through to make sure Warnock gets to his club of choice.  Too many ifs and maybes for mine to get Warnock for a 2nd round pick and under no circumstances should we trade our top 10 pick in this last untampered draft.

I know Miller said a month ago the club has high hopes for Gus when we said to Greg we need to find another ruckman. The club expected him to play a few games this year but that broken ankle he sustained late last year significantly interrupted his preseason. According to Greg, Gus had lost a bit of his agility and will need the upcoming full preseason to regain it.

[one-eyed]

AFL set to create compo formula
Jake Niall | August 22, 2008

THE AFL is expected to introduce a formula that will determine compensation clubs receive for losing players to the new Gold Coast team.

Under the proposal, which the AFL Commission will discuss and is likely to adopt, clubs that lose a player — contracted or not — would be compensated on the basis of a formula that takes into account games played, age and various achievements such as best-and-fairest finishes.

In the event that a club is unhappy with its compensation, the AFL might have an appeals process that gives it a chance at securing a better deal.

An appeals system will be considered by the commission when it determines the recruiting rules for the start-up club.

For example, if Richmond lost Brett Deledio to the Gold Coast team at the end of 2010, the formula would dictate that the Tigers would receive a first-round draft pick — but the key question would obviously be the number of the first-round pick.

It is almost certain, too, that the club that lost the player would have the option of making the draft pick "bankable" and it could defer using the pick until another year.

The formula would not differentiate between contracted and uncontracted players.

Two options have been considered for how the AFL determines what a club receives in return for losing a player to the new club.

One was the formula, which would be based on various factors in a player's history; the other was that an AFL-appointed panel would determine what was appropriate compensation.

It is understood that the AFL administration has a preference for a formula, because a subjective judgement on players becomes very difficult and open to debate.

An appeals process would be a safety net in the event that there is a clear disparity between a player's value and the return.

Sources also have confirmed that the new club will be given a very strong hand in the 2010 draft — with either the first five draft choices or alternative picks 1, 3, 5, 7 and so forth in the first round.

The Gold Coast is expected to be granted access to 12 17-year-olds in the 2009 draft — the 17-year-olds being ineligible for that draft because the minimum age is being raised to 18 years as of January 1. These players will be bound to the new club, but tradeable if they don't agree to sign with the Gold Coast.

http://www.realfooty.com.au/news/news/afl-set-to-create-compo-formula/2008/08/21/1219262414249.html

[Gracie]

......These players will be bound to the new club, but tradeable if they don't agree to sign with the Gold Coast.

http://www.realfooty.com.au/news/news/afl-set-to-create-compo-formula/2008/08/21/1219262414249.html

So we could get in the ear of a KPP or ruck and get them to request a trade to Richmond and we could then give them one of our surplus outside flankers ?????