Season's over - Bowden & Hyde need to go!

[Ramps]

I did a ladder predictor last night, if we play our cards right and some other games go our way, we can finish 15th 

[Tigermonk]

Bowden is in our top 5 performers at present & anyone thinking that our game is based around him is deluded. Bowden has been patching up key positions now for years & its about time people let him play his football & not criticise him. Its not easy being chucked around the ground to cover for this & that position.
If Joel was put up for trade,  he would be one of the most sort after player by every other club, his still got at least 3 to 4 years in him the way his getting the ball.  If he left the club it would be a shame he had to play for someone else & prove his all talent. his got alot of honors playing football, you dont get much higher than All Australian, & dual back to back JD medals, his averaging 30+ possessions lately & that is still not enough for some supporters who must bag him out cause they think we be a better side without him. if the other players pulled themselves together & grew some balls,  we be in a better position like the Hawks, Bulldogs,  Brisbane, Adelaide & Carlton who have all rebuilt after hitting rock bottom. We have the players, its just they need to learn to jell together better & put in alittle extra instead of thinking its going to get given to them after 50 games of football they may all find they will become 200 game nothings fast

[Gordon Bennett]

if Joel gets dropped from the side and we don't lift our intensity then I'll be proven wrong

no, it wouldn't actually prove anything

[Infamy]

Bowden is in our top 5 performers at present & anyone thinking that our game is based around him is deluded. Bowden has been patching up key positions now for years & its about time people let him play his football & not criticise him. Its not easy being chucked around the ground to cover for this & that position.
If Joel was put up for trade,  he would be one of the most sort after player by every other club, his still got at least 3 to 4 years in him the way his getting the ball.  If he left the club it would be a shame he had to play for someone else & prove his all talent. his got alot of honors playing football, you dont get much higher than All Australian, & dual back to back JD medals, his averaging 30+ possessions lately & that is still not enough for some supporters who must bag him out cause they think we be a better side without him. if the other players pulled themselves together & grew some balls,  we be in a better position like the Hawks, Bulldogs,  Brisbane, Adelaide & Carlton who have all rebuilt after hitting rock bottom. We have the players, its just they need to learn to jell together better & put in alittle extra instead of thinking its going to get given to them after 50 games of football they may all find they will become 200 game nothings fast

Oh dear, I dearly would love to see him shopped around at the end of the year. He won't get us a thing, other clubs don't rate him at all. Williams paid him no respect and Ratten structured their attacks through his opponent. We've needed to trade away a good player for years to try and get extra picks, so I certainly hope he can land us something like a 2nd rounder, but I'm certainly not holding my breath.

Richmond supporters really do have jaded views over the quality of our old players. It's like guys like Knights, Campbell & Free being considered such stars when at the end of the day they were career failures as footballers. They were the best of a bad bunch and Bowden is one of those. Richo was the only one who was a bonefide gun and still is.

[shannon]

Bowden is in our top 5 performers at present & anyone thinking that our game is based around him is deluded. Bowden has been patching up key positions now for years & its about time people let him play his football & not criticise him. Its not easy being chucked around the ground to cover for this & that position.
If Joel was put up for trade,  he would be one of the most sort after player by every other club, his still got at least 3 to 4 years in him the way his getting the ball.  If he left the club it would be a shame he had to play for someone else & prove his all talent. his got alot of honors playing football, you dont get much higher than All Australian, & dual back to back JD medals, his averaging 30+ possessions lately & that is still not enough for some supporters who must bag him out cause they think we be a better side without him. if the other players pulled themselves together & grew some balls,  we be in a better position like the Hawks, Bulldogs,  Brisbane, Adelaide & Carlton who have all rebuilt after hitting rock bottom. We have the players, its just they need to learn to jell together better & put in alittle extra instead of thinking its going to get given to them after 50 games of football they may all find they will become 200 game nothings fast

Oh dear, I dearly would love to see him shopped around at the end of the year. He won't get us a thing, other clubs don't rate him at all. Williams paid him no respect and Ratten structured their attacks through his opponent. We've needed to trade away a good player for years to try and get extra picks, so I certainly hope he can land us something like a 2nd rounder, but I'm certainly not holding my breath.

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[Infamy]

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That's funny as every time I read your crap on here it doesn't get through my cack filter
Im not sure if you've actually typed "blah" or it's just my mind blocking out more rubbish

[1965]

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That's funny as every time I read your crap on here it doesn't get through my cack filter
Im not sure if you've actually typed "blah" or it's just my mind blocking out more rubbish

Shannon sounds like a bloke to me.

I wonder why his profile has him as female?

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[Ramps]

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I believe Blah Blah Blah is one of my tag lines 

[Tigermonk]

Richmond supporters really do have jaded views over the quality of our old players. It's like guys like Knights, Campbell & Free being considered such stars when at the end of the day they were career failures as footballers. They were the best of a bad bunch and Bowden is one of those. Richo was the only one who was a bonefide gun and still is.

just shows your football knowledge is very low
Bowden was voted all Australian 2 times by a panel of elite footballers
poo footballers dont get in the All Australian side
just wondering your comment on Richo being the only gun ??? has he ever been named All Australian

[Fluffy Tiger]

Early in this thread I thought I was alone on the "Joel is a good footballer" front but now I know that Infamy is in the minority. Differnence of opinions on players will always be a feature of football websites and none more than a Tiger one (we are known to eat our young).

I was tempted to start a thread with a pole (a simple one with a yes/no answer) to see if Joel should be in the side NOW. The trouble is it would prove nothing apart from we all think different about players. To me he is class and would be welcomed into any team. None of these "team did this or that" when he was in or out proves me wrong. Its a team game and any of that stuff revolving around a singe player is just guff. Hope he is here to stay for a while yet.

[Darth Tiger]

No doubt that Joel has credits in the bank as a duel B&F and AA, and is in our current best 22 in 2008.

I think the key issue is whether Joel will be in our best side come round 16 in 2009.

His experience maybe handy should there be a genuine tilt at finals in 09, however it is also possible that a youngster may have also passed him by and that he is an 09 clogger.

If he is out of contract, I'd look at a reduced 1 year 15 round deal.

If he doesn't like it he can always hock his wares and receive the players market feedback.

[mightytiges]

Richmond supporters really do have jaded views over the quality of our old players. It's like guys like Knights, Campbell & Free being considered such stars when at the end of the day they were career failures as footballers. They were the best of a bad bunch and Bowden is one of those. Richo was the only one who was a bonefide gun and still is.

just shows your football knowledge is very low
Bowden was voted all Australian 2 times by a panel of elite footballers
pooh footballers dont get in the All Australian side
just wondering your comment on Richo being the only gun ??? has he ever been named All Australian

Richo was AA in 96. He'll probably get in this year too named on a wing.

A positive about the side this week is there's no Hyde, Tivs or Petts. All are playing VFL.

[Tigermonk]

Richo was AA in 96. He'll probably get in this year too named on a wing.

A positive about the side this week is there's no Hyde, Tivs or Petts. All are playing VFL.

are you sure about that MT,  show me the team

[Fishfinger]

http://www.searchingkangaroo.com/history/1996_allstar.htm

Richo was on the I/C.

[Stripes]

Tigermonk I'll start that poll for you to see Joels value around this site.

Stripes