Brett Deledio [merged]

[WilliamPowell]

There is little other than speculation about this story.
He has every right to take a wait and see approach.

Especially when he has a manager who will be personally better off with "the wait & see approach"

But as I 've said many times with Free agency coming in we still hold all the aces regarding Lids as the Age confirms in their story today:

"Under free agency, a player who is out of contract for the first time since serving eight years at the one club and is among the top nine or 10 paid in his final season can be offered a contract by rival clubs. But this offer can be matched by his current club. Richmond's Brett Deledio falls into this category."

From: http://www.theage.com.au/afl/afl-news/clubs-grapple-with-free-agency-20120124-1qfqo.html#ixzz1kOiNvbg5

He wont be going anywhere. Personally I'm not worried 

[Francois Jackson]

Yes we may want to match it but ultimately if he chooses to leave for Carlton then we have no chance.

If a player wants to go a player wants to go

To be honest no finals this year I would leave also.

8 years of rubbish and he deserves better

As has been hinted for weeks the club wants finals and now IMO this must be surely be one of the reasons why

No finals = No Lids

Blues will take him in a heartbeat ESP with Judd nearing the veterans list

[Mr Magic]

No finals = No Lids

It's really as simple as that.

[WilliamPowell]

Yes we may want to match it but ultimately if he chooses to leave for Carlton then we have no chance.

If a player wants to go a player wants to go

daniel Bottom line is under the AFL's free agency rules he will be a restricted free agent.

This means as long as the RFC chooses to match any offer made by any other club he he has to stay; we keep him no "ifs, buts or maybes". They are the rules.

If the Club chooses not to match the offer then he gets traded to the club that offers us the best deal again; they are the rules   

So how if he chooses Carlton are we "no chance"?

IMHO:
1/ we still have the upper hand under these new FA rules
and 
2/ I honestly believe he wont be choosing anywhere but the RFC.

No finals = No Lids

It's really as simple as that.

That simple? Are you saying if we miss finals in 2012 by say 1 game or percentage then he's simply going to walk out the door   

And BTW just on the HUN article can anyone tell me what relevance mentioning Cotchin in the article has seeing Cotch is contracted for next season? trying to stir the masses it would seem 

[Penelope]

Y&B hit the nail on the head. If he goes , he goes.

To me this probably more about his manager recommending he wait to get a better deal than anything else., but i wont be getting my knickers in a knot over it

[Phil Mrakov]

I reckon hes off fellas !

Clearly wants to play finals every year, I reckon the blues are a huge chance.

Funny isn't it considering most of us would PAY the tigers to play for them.

[dwaino]

Uh oh spaghettio!

Kinda siding with those saying no finals = no Lids.

I understand we hold the cards and all that, but if he wants to go then there isn't much good in keeping him around if he would rather be somewhere else.

I'll try to stay optimistic though. Different kettle of fish, but Thomas didn't resign to Collingwood until late.

[WilliamPowell]

I understand we hold the cards and all that, but if he wants to go then there isn't much good in keeping him around if he would rather be somewhere else.

Sydeny did it with Ryan O'Keefe 4 or so years ago. He wanted to come home to Melb,they couldn't do a trade and he stayed and has since (last year IIRC) signed another long term contract that will ensure he is a Swan for life.

Tigers can do the same

and FWIW there's not a doubt in my mind that the Tigers will match any offer Lids receives, they cannot afford not too 

[10 FLAGS]

Contract talks have been delayed - probably until well in the season. 

How do you know this?

I knew the bad news beforehand and besides it was in the herald sun 

[WilliamPowell]

Can I ask a question and it's probably directed at those who reckons he's goneskis no matter what?

Which part of the Free Agency rules don't you understand?

Because I would think the rules are pretty clear cut especially seeing the media keep using Lids as example of how "restricted free agency" will work. They are not grey, pink, yellow or tangerine they are crystal clear. But it seems to me poeple don't want accept it or perhaps even want to understand them 

So I will repeat it based on the Free Agency rules as they currently stand in the case of Lids the rules clearly mean as long as the RFC chooses to match any offer made by any other club Lids stays; we keep him no "ifs, buts or maybes".

[Mr Magic]

That simple? Are you saying if we miss finals in 2012 by say 1 game or percentage then he's simply going to walk out the door   

Yes. Whilst the chances would be amplified by a poor year for the club, another heartbreaking 9th again would likely do it anyway.

I hope he and the team have a great season and this becomes a non issue but I am very concerned that he hasn't signed at this stage.

[Smokey]

Can I ask a question and it's probably directed at those who reckons he's goneskis no matter what?

Which part of the Free Agency rules don't you understand?

Because I would think the rules are pretty clear cut especially seeing the media keep using Lids as example of how "restricted free agency" will work. They are not grey, pink, yellow or tangerine they are crystal clear. But it seems to me poeple don't want accept it or perhaps even want to understand them 

So I will repeat it based on the Free Agency rules as they currently stand in the case of Lids the rules clearly mean as long as the RFC chooses to match any offer made by any other club Lids stays; we keep him no "ifs, buts or maybes".

It's clear to me WP but I think some are confusing the 8 year conditions with the 10.  As a betting proposition, Lids staying would be at short odds for a number of reasons but none more so than the Free Agency conditions that apply to him.

[TigerLand]

Is anyone concerned that we could end up in strife regarding salary cap.

We paid probably overs to keep Martin away from GWS. We will do the same to keep Deledio.

Just concerns me we've copped 2 extreme circumstances in Free Agency and new franchise poach that are unlikely to happen to other clubs. This will put us behind them in terms of affording the best possible list.

Just sign Brett, if you want to have a proper push for finals then sign a 1-2 year deal if your worried about long term. Don't pee away the season with the circus about Free Agency stuff that could ruin our season. Some players/agents can be too self absorbed, and live for a bit of limelight and drama off field.

[TigerLand]

Also as fair as I understand with what Brett has achieved we'd be compensated with 2 high first round picks for Lids, including number 1 pick.

Wouldn't be the end of the world.

[10 FLAGS]

Can I ask a question and it's probably directed at those who reckons he's goneskis no matter what?

Which part of the Free Agency rules don't you understand?

Because I would think the rules are pretty clear cut especially seeing the media keep using Lids as example of how "restricted free agency" will work. They are not grey, pink, yellow or tangerine they are crystal clear. But it seems to me poeple don't want accept it or perhaps even want to understand them 

So I will repeat it based on the Free Agency rules as they currently stand in the case of Lids the rules clearly mean as long as the RFC chooses to match any offer made by any other club Lids stays; we keep him no "ifs, buts or maybes".

If he wants to go he will go irrespective of the rules IMHO.