Angus Graham [merged]

[jackstar is back again]

Jamie charmen is 5 years older.

5 years ago his fith year in the system he had 50 kicks 33 marks 31 handball 3 goals 1 and 140 hittouts from 9 games.

But if Angus watched Jamie, he would of noticed how be blocked, got in the way of the opposition today etc etc.
Jamie has had 2 total knee reconstructions as well..

Jamie stats are good, averages 4 marks a game and 5 kicks.
Does Gus know how to mark ?

Gus would battle to rip a wet tissue, Charman just bulldozes them

[Infamy]

Jamie charmen is 5 years older.

5 years ago his fith year in the system he had 50 kicks 33 marks 31 handball 3 goals 1 and 140 hittouts from 9 games.

But if Angus watched Jamie, he would of noticed how be blocked, got in the way of the opposition today etc etc.
Jamie has had 2 total knee reconstructions as well..

Jamie stats are good, averages 4 marks a game and 5 kicks.
Does Gus know how to mark ?

Gus would battle to rip a wet tissue, Charman just bulldozes them

After 9 games of AFL Graham had 25 kicks, 33 marks 57 handballs 3 goals 1 and 101 hitouts.
Not exactly a massive difference there
Considering Charman was a 2nd round draft pick there an expected difference in natural talent
Why do you keep comparing a 22 year old rookie pick to 1st & 2nd round elite juniors?

Your solution of just playing Browne is ridiculous. Come up with a proper solution. Browne isn't ready yet.

[jackstar is back again]

Jamie charmen is 5 years older.

5 years ago his fith year in the system he had 50 kicks 33 marks 31 handball 3 goals 1 and 140 hittouts from 9 games.

But if Angus watched Jamie, he would of noticed how be blocked, got in the way of the opposition today etc etc.
Jamie has had 2 total knee reconstructions as well..

Jamie stats are good, averages 4 marks a game and 5 kicks.
Does Gus know how to mark ?

Gus would battle to rip a wet tissue, Charman just bulldozes them

After 9 games of AFL Graham had 25 kicks, 33 marks 57 handballs 3 goals 1 and 101 hitouts.
Not exactly a massive difference there
Considering Charman was a 2nd round draft pick there an expected difference in natural talent
Why do you keep comparing a 22 year old rookie pick to 1st & 2nd round elite juniors?

Your solution of just playing Browne is ridiculous. Come up with a proper solution. Browne isn't ready yet.

Browns isnt ready but played Round 1 last year  , something is wrong there.
Graham simply cant play full stop

[Infamy]

Jamie charmen is 5 years older.

5 years ago his fith year in the system he had 50 kicks 33 marks 31 handball 3 goals 1 and 140 hittouts from 9 games.

But if Angus watched Jamie, he would of noticed how be blocked, got in the way of the opposition today etc etc.
Jamie has had 2 total knee reconstructions as well..

Jamie stats are good, averages 4 marks a game and 5 kicks.
Does Gus know how to mark ?

Gus would battle to rip a wet tissue, Charman just bulldozes them

After 9 games of AFL Graham had 25 kicks, 33 marks 57 handballs 3 goals 1 and 101 hitouts.
Not exactly a massive difference there
Considering Charman was a 2nd round draft pick there an expected difference in natural talent
Why do you keep comparing a 22 year old rookie pick to 1st & 2nd round elite juniors?

Your solution of just playing Browne is ridiculous. Come up with a proper solution. Browne isn't ready yet.

Browns isnt ready but played Round 1 last year  , something is wrong there.
Graham simply cant play full stop

Yes, he was subsequently dropped and not given another game for the rest of the year. Graham was given his spot, Browne also hardly knocked down the door for senior selection at Coburg while Graham was playing, nor was he called up when Graham was dropped.
Browne has also been competing with Graham all preseason and our new coaching panel have given the spot to Graham. What does that tell you?

[Penelope]

NO KICKS NO MARKS LAST NIGHT says it all

My solution is too play Browne next week, .

Andrew Browne 1 game 0 kicks 0 marks

 ???

[jackstar is back again]

NO KICKS NO MARKS LAST NIGHT says it all

My solution is too play Browne next week, .

Andrew Browne 1 game 0 kicks 0 marks

 ???

Both spastics., although Brownw shouldbe given another opportunity as Gus is NO GOOD

[Coach]

NO KICKS NO MARKS LAST NIGHT says it all

My solution is too play Browne next week, .

Andrew Browne 1 game 0 kicks 0 marks

 ???

How is that fair? That was Browne's first ever game and he'd only been at the club 5 months! Gus is in his 5th year. I reckon Browne played all of about 20 minutes against Carlton last year...Graham played most of the match last night. 3 handballs isn't good enough.

[jackstar is back again]

3 handballs aint nowhere near good enough, you would get those at Auskick at half time

[Gigantor]

How about polak in the ruck ,at least he would be away from the forward line.while we're at it might as well give Nahas a run there too

[Penelope]

He will get an opportunity Jack.  

Davey, I'm not comparing them. That would be like comparing Grahams performance yesterday to Charmans today - five years difference in the system. just pointing out flawed logic, thats all

[torch]

Vickery is the future

Yep

Second That!

Simmonds and Vickery for Round 1!

Graham is not getting around the ground!

 

[the claw]

NO KICKS NO MARKS LAST NIGHT says it all

My solution is too play Browne next week, .

Andrew Browne 1 game 0 kicks 0 marks

 ???

yep Browne was so well managed he got about 9 minutes game time. sheesh. if you are firstly going to promote them from the rookie list and then pick em you really do need to actually play em.

[the claw]

Vickery is the future

Yep

Second That!

Simmonds and Vickery for Round 1!

Graham is not getting around the ground!

 

yep vickery is the future but because he is the future he wont be playing to many senior games. take a look at him people hes still drastically undersized and lacks the core strength to be thrown in the deep end.

im going to throw up a little idea. i can see griffiths getting plenty of games  ready or not because of his size.he will ruck forward.  i can see polak and simmonds playing as mobile  ruckmen. wont help us at stoppages but it will probably be the best option.

[jackstar is back again]

NO KICKS NO MARKS LAST NIGHT says it all

My solution is too play Browne next week, .

Andrew Browne 1 game 0 kicks 0 marks

 ???

yep Browne was so well managed he got about 9 minutes game time. sheesh. if you are firstly going to promote them from the rookie list and then pick em you really do need to actually play em.

Thank you Claw

[WilliamPowell]

But if Angus watched Jamie, he would of noticed how be blocked, got in the way of the opposition today etc etc.Jamie has had 2 total knee reconstructions as well..

Jamie stats are good, averages 4 marks a game and 5 kicks.
Does Gus know how to mark ?

Gus would battle to rip a wet tissue, Charman just bulldozes them

Agree I was there and at every centre square ball up I kept thinking......

GUS WATCH THE BLOODY BALL AND NOT THE MAN!

on the other thread where I said he need to stop hanging his head and that his body language was terrible was on display on Saturday night.

Example: He stands in the oppositions goal square watchng the ball go through for a goal - then he just stands there for 10 secs, hands on hips and then starts to trudge back to the INTERCHANGE where Vickery is waitng to go on...... once Gus gets to the the 50m arc he starts to sprint off, Vickery then has to bolt to the centre squanre and just makes it.... sorry this isn't being team orientated...this is Gus thinking about Gus....

Anyone who thinks he rucked well is kidding themselves ..he gets plenty of taps....straight down to his feet or the opposition