Trade Period: Day One tidbits/SEN reported Otto deal

[WilliamPowell]

There was also talk of Gilbee & Bowden?

They weren't mentioned ither. Tezza was asked about who we'd take in the draft with pick 1. Non-commital there as well, said they had "narrowed it down" after meeting the players last week and sepaking to families but would keep their cards close to their chests

Steve McKee:
Is this some sick joke lol. No thanks!

Err....... no joke Froars - we have to do something about our ruck stocks - seeing we de-listed Marsh

[mightytiges]

Granted we need to get ruckman but McKee is now useless due to the current ruck rules. That's why the Pies are getting rid of him.

[Bulluss]

I dont know why we dont go for Tenace and Geelongs first pick.

There are posts all over the net about us getting Collingwoods pick 7 which they would give up for Tenace or another Geelong player. From the rumours on the radio it looks like Tenace, he is only a first year player and has plenty of pace and skill.

Lets just cut Collingwood out of the deal and take Tenace.

[Disco]

Im with you Bully, Lets cut scumwood out of the deal and take Tenance ourselves, he's showed plenty of promise.

[mightytiges]

With Tenace, are you allowed to trade young draftees in the middle of their initial basic 2-year contract? Is it only with the player's permission?

[mightytiges]

SEN has just said:

Otto: Won't be done until tomorrow night at the earliest and more likely to go down to the wire . Adelaide and Carlton have taken their first picks off the table. Leaving only Pies (#7) and Hawthorn (#10) left if we want a top 10 pick (use it to get a young ruckman). Geelong won't give up a quality player  .

Simmonds: Still a bit of water under the bridge to go. Still more likely he'll come to us (we've offered 4 years) but Freo making a hard play to keep him. We're willing to give up our second pick (#20) as we think we'll pick up another 2nd rounder in another trade.

Zantuck: Most likely traded but no new info on him. Dees said no. Bombers of course interested.

Whitnall on $500K next year  so the Blues are expected to still pay $200K of his salary  if the Saints agree to take them.

Thankfully no interest in McGough or Shaw  .

[Harry]

What's the point of waiting till the deadline.  Do a deal and get it over with and get onto the next one.  Too many clubs are way too conservative.  This whole trade week is overated - it should be called the trade hour and have it on friday, as 95% of the trades are done then where clubs are scrambling with paperwork and faxes before the deadline.

[froars]

What's the point of waiting till the deadline.

Agree Harry, this should have been done on the first day.
If you consider how we rate Ottens, and that's not much, i thought Geelong offered us a pretty good deal.
We'll get shafted for sure and we'll probably deserve it!
Tenace and a first round pick should do it IMO if we get a chance!

[harry bosch]

So i am not the only one who thought 14,16 and 32 was a fair deal..

Why is it so many supporters of ours bag our players all year yet come trade
time are disappointed when clubs don't offer too much for them?

[mightytiges]

A caller asked about Gilbee and so far a trade involving him hasnt been on the radar.

Nothing about Tenace.

[froars]

No, not the only one, Harry.  Ottens doesn't have the runs on the board except one All Australian award.
Since then he has been injured for a couple of seasons, and while injuries prevent sometimes good form, others have managed to at least show something - he's shown nothing, as agreed with by the umpires when he got no votes.
He's never won a game off his own boot, his ruck work is very suspect, yet because we have this power at the moment, we want everything.  I would be surprised if they came to a deal with Geelong - because i think they acted in good faith with their offer and think why cause so much disharmony to their club by splitting up their group.
Good luck to them, but if we don't start negotiating instead of blackmailing, we'll get eff all!

[mightytiges]

For the first time Clubs meet up again on Friday (just like the first day of trade week) to avoid the late rush of paperwork and faxes.

We want a top 10 pick to get a young ruckman/tall such as Cameron Wood. We're afraid they won't be around by the time a mid-teen pick comes around.

Just to answer my own question - Tenace can be traded provided he agrees.

[WilliamPowell]

Good luck to them, but if we don't start negotiating instead of blackmailing, we'll get eff all!

I have no problem with what they are trying to do. As I said yesterday if Thompson can go for picks 10 & 26 then Ottens is worth a top 10 and pick 16. Geelong want Ottens but are not prepared to give up anything decent in return. If they really want him then they have to give up something decent and that means a player.

If Judas oops I mean Ottens had of agreed to go to North this would probably be a mute point. He wants to go on his terms - guess what he goes on ours  IMO

[JohnF]

I think they are doing well by not budging. The last thing we want to do is undersell ourselves. There is plenty of time in the last hour of Friday to take the deal Geelong are offering. Until then we have to try and maximise what we can get. In all honesty, for what I think he's worth, I would be reluctant to give a first round draft pick and nothing else for Ottens' services! That we have clubs talking in the ball park of two first rounders must be considered a victory.

We will win on this deal, even if we have to accept something like pick 16, 32 and a player.

As to Freo, they will be schitting themselves bigtime as soon as the Ottens deal goes through. They'll be begging for pick 20 come the last hour on Friday.

[mightytiges]

Agree John. With Thomson going to the Roos and Simmonds wanting to come to us if the Cats don't cough up then they don't get the big man they need. Make them sweat to Friday. If we can't get that top 10 pick and think the 14,16,32 deal is ok then we can take it up at the last minute.