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Re: State of Umpiring [merged]
« Reply #2370 on: September 12, 2022, 09:54:41 PM »
More smoke and mirrors designed to avoid any chance of ever having to admit to a mistake.  AFL HQ are stuffwits

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Re: State of Umpiring [merged]
« Reply #2371 on: September 12, 2022, 10:06:44 PM »
Load of bs as you mention a smokescreen to avoid fault and admit it was a mistake so was it a goal or a point still no answer.

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Re: State of Umpiring [merged]
« Reply #2372 on: September 12, 2022, 10:09:12 PM »
Being reported the AFL said it was a point based on the crowd vision!  Can you stuffen believe this circus! 

Someone with an iPhone in the crowd has a better angle and vision than a billion dollar AFL industry and high tech ARC system. 

All I want to know is who has been sacked over this farce!

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Re: State of Umpiring [merged]
« Reply #2373 on: September 12, 2022, 10:26:45 PM »
Being reported the AFL said it was a point based on the crowd vision!  Can you stuffen believe this circus! 

Someone with an iPhone in the crowd has a better angle and vision than a billion dollar AFL industry and high tech ARC system. 

All I want to know is who has been sacked over this farce!

Can't make this circus up we're was that reported?.

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Re: State of Umpiring [merged]
« Reply #2374 on: September 12, 2022, 10:44:41 PM »
I thought we just go by the players' reaction?  At least that's what they said two weeks ago!   
So when Harris Andrews looks like he just found a turd in his soup we still call the kick from Lynch a behind? 
No?  So the greatest actor wont get the most favourable decision now?  How un-AFL-like ...       ::) 
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Re: State of Umpiring [merged]
« Reply #2375 on: September 12, 2022, 11:32:44 PM »
In essence there changing the rules to cover there ass and mistakes pathetic.

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Re: State of Umpiring [merged]
« Reply #2376 on: September 12, 2022, 11:37:29 PM »
Being reported the AFL said it was a point based on the crowd vision!  Can you stuffen believe this circus! 

Someone with an iPhone in the crowd has a better angle and vision than a billion dollar AFL industry and high tech ARC system. 

All I want to know is who has been sacked over this farce!

Can't make this circus up we're was that reported?.

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Re: State of Umpiring [merged]
« Reply #2377 on: September 13, 2022, 07:39:32 AM »
Jon Ralph's article in the HeraldSun:


Damien Hardwick tours ARC as league considers tweak of system

Richmond coach Damien Hardwick had a personal tour of the AFL’s ARC system on Monday as the league considers a major tweak to its goal review protocols next year.

The Herald Sun understands Hardwick and his football boss Tim Livingstone met AFL officials Andrew Dillon and Brad Scott two weeks after the goal review that cost Richmond its finals spot.

Hardwick has been a persistent critic of the goal review system, believing there is not enough common sense incorporated into its protocols.

The high-powered meeting was said to be conducted in good spirits as the AFL explained the exact system in detail and Hardwick made clear what he believes to be the weakness of the ARC goal review.

The decision from the goal umpire in the elimination final to initially rule Tom Lynch’s kick a goal meant Richmond fans were shattered when the decision was ultimately overturned.

The AFL is expected to explore whether next year a goal umpire who is unsure about whether a decision is a goal or a behind still has to give a “soft” call.

Under the ARC system the bunker needs definitive proof to overturn the initial call, but there could be an option that sees the umpires immediately referring a lineball decision without initially calling it a goal or behind.

It would allow the ARC officials to make their own ruling without it being influenced by the initial “soft” call from the goal umpire.

They would also have more flexibility in deciding on all available video evidence whether it was more likely a goal or behind without having to find definitive proof that would flip an existing call.

Instead they would simply rule on whether they believed it was a goal or behind after assessing every angle.

Subsequent angles from social media showed that Lynch’s kick that would have sealed the game most likely sailed directly over the goalpost.

The Herald Sun revealed last month the AFL is likely to trial advanced technology involving microchips in balls next year to assess whether it is possible to introduce a Hawkeye-style system in the AFL.

That ball-tracking technology has already been brought into Super Rugby by the Sportable sports technology firm.

Hardwick has been criticised for “whingeing” about the goal umpire system but he has long been a persistent and consistent critic of its weaknesses.

He said after the loss the goal review system was not up to scratch.

“I just feel the technology is not good enough and hasn’t been for a long time,” he said. “Clearly it’s indecisive still. The whole thing is the technology is not to the level where it needs to be. So either get it better or get rid of it.”

AFL chief executive Gillon McLachlan said last week there is subjectivity in every call including those made by the goal umpires and bunker.

“I reckon technology is always going to have its limits. I think the goal review generally has been fantastic, but there is not a sport in the world where there are not specific instances where people have to make subjective calls and that is the nature of our game and the nature of sport,” he said.

“There are calls being made every moment of the game. That call was made, frankly, from where I was sitting behind, it was a point.”

https://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/afl/news/afl-2022-damien-hardwick-tours-arc-as-league-considers-tweak-of-system/news-story/d1844179d88439c4a2053b53639a089d

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Re: State of Umpiring [merged]
« Reply #2378 on: September 13, 2022, 07:59:29 AM »
Fu k off Gilligan as if you’d have a better view than the goal umpire

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Re: State of Umpiring [merged]
« Reply #2379 on: September 13, 2022, 09:00:01 AM »
Show us the vision Gill then bunch of cheats  ?? Now we're going off we're you were sitting what a mess this incident is so dirty.

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Re: State of Umpiring [merged]
« Reply #2380 on: September 13, 2022, 09:10:57 AM »
Hold on a minute

So I'm clear

Within 48 hours of the decision the AFL ticked it off. Said there was clear vision to prove it was a point. But vision they've never released.

Now 2 weeks later there is a suggestion that the proof is the "crowd vision "

Seriously?  What the?

This means that there was no other vision and they stuffed up.

Just admit you stuffed up and we move on. None of us will like it, we'll still be peeved but at least there is some sort end to it

Just more of the same from HQ. Stupidity, excuses ans no accountability
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Re: State of Umpiring [merged]
« Reply #2381 on: September 13, 2022, 09:16:38 AM »
This just proves without doubt that the AFL is an incompetent bunch of liars

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Re: State of Umpiring [merged]
« Reply #2383 on: September 14, 2022, 07:18:29 AM »
Hold on a minute

So I'm clear

Within 48 hours of the decision the AFL ticked it off. Said there was clear vision to prove it was a point. But vision they've never released.

Now 2 weeks later there is a suggestion that the proof is the "crowd vision "

Seriously?  What the?


This means that there was no other vision and they stuffed up.

Just admit you stuffed up and we move on. None of us will like it, we'll still be peeved but at least there is some sort end to it

Just more of the same from HQ. Stupidity, excuses and no accountability
Hang on again!

How did the ARC reviewer have access to "crowd vision"? :huh3

The AFL just blatantly lying now  :thumbsdown.
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Re: State of Umpiring [merged]
« Reply #2384 on: September 14, 2022, 03:31:13 PM »
AFL need to sanction itself for bringing the game into disrepute