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Re: State of Umpiring [merged]
« Reply #1755 on: May 22, 2021, 01:21:03 PM »
The AFL wants to take all the niggle out of the game but if you watched last night anybody could see it was the pure frustration at the "One sided" umpiring that was the cause of it. There were at least 4 times our players were called to play on when all they were doing was going back behind the mark, these things frustrate players and lead to incidents. Keep it consistent and then the players know what to expect, its very simple really.
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« Reply #1756 on: May 22, 2021, 02:46:36 PM »
Richmond is being screwed and Id say its a deliberate strategy.

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« Reply #1757 on: May 22, 2021, 06:59:34 PM »
No idea why they kept calling play on from the marks when they wernt moving out of the line. It truly was bizarre even the commentators were picking up on it. They were calling it both ways largely though but still shows they don’t know what they’re doing or it’s just the go to direction from the AFL this week.

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Re: State of Umpiring [merged]
« Reply #1758 on: May 22, 2021, 08:51:57 PM »
Richmond is being screwed and Id say its a deliberate strategy.

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Re: State of Umpiring [merged]
« Reply #1759 on: May 22, 2021, 10:33:31 PM »
Pickett suspended yet this high shot on Short is given the all clear by the MRO and the umps  ::).



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« Reply #1760 on: May 22, 2021, 10:43:42 PM »
Graeme Richmond wouldn't have copped this shyte...... :shh
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« Reply #1761 on: May 22, 2021, 10:55:00 PM »
About time our club grew some balls and told Shocking and Gilligan to GAGF’d

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Re: State of Umpiring [merged]
« Reply #1762 on: May 23, 2021, 02:31:02 PM »
Pickett suspended yet this high shot on Short is given the all clear by the MRO and the umps  ::).



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Pathetic why a we not getting the same rules and frees as the other side.

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Re: State of Umpiring [merged]
« Reply #1763 on: May 23, 2021, 03:53:38 PM »
Better for us that Short wasn’t given a free kick. Wouldn’t have benefited us in any way to have the whistle blown then as Rioli was out in open space

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Re: State of Umpiring [merged]
« Reply #1764 on: May 23, 2021, 03:57:39 PM »
Most blatant htb of all time against Whitfield that would've given the WC a shot at goal & the lead not paid , then a 50/50 htb paid against WC less than a minute later....maggots stuffing us over even when we're not playing..... :thumbsdown
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Re: State of Umpiring [merged]
« Reply #1765 on: May 23, 2021, 07:46:49 PM »
CORNES TELLS HARDWICK TO "STOP CRYING" AFTER FREE KICK COMMENTS

Kane Cornes says Richmond coach Damien Hardwick has "got to stop crying” after complaining about the free kick count at half time of Friday night’s match against Brisbane.

The former tagger believes the AFL "needs to have a word" with the Tigers premiership coach.

“Look, (he was a) premiership teammate of mine, he has been unbelievable for four years and it's a great story, but he's got to stop crying,” Cornes said on AFL Nation.

“He cried before the game last night on the coverage with Fox Footy, he said that (Tom) Lynch and (Jack) Riewoldt hadn’t had enough free kicks for the year.

"He cried at half time about the free kick differential, he cried all last week, as did the club.

"I think there's got to be a letter sent from the AFL or something and start handing out fines for the complaining that we're getting from the reigning premiership coach and team.”

Hardwick last week expressed his disappointment at Richmond being forced to play a home game at Marvel Stadium, away from their regular home ground at the MCG.

He made efforts to take those comments back during the week, but Cornes believes the three-time premiership coach undid his good work with his comments on Friday night.

‘He backed away from (the comments about Marvel Stadium from last week) during the week,” Cornes said.

“I bet you the AFL had a word to him and said that isn’t good enough, so he’s backed away from that but then he’s gone again at half time on the national stage of prime time footy."

Richmond lost the free kick count 28-16 on Friday night against the Lions, and are 18th in the competition for free kick differential.

https://www.sen.com.au/news/2021/05/22/cornes-tells-hardwick-to-stop-crying-after-free-kick-comments/

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Re: State of Umpiring [merged]
« Reply #1766 on: May 23, 2021, 09:05:27 PM »
Pretty funny coming from this stuffwit given his crying after the Hartlett DOB last year!

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Re: State of Umpiring [merged]
« Reply #1767 on: May 23, 2021, 09:53:27 PM »
Yes no need to complain when you’ve conceded 20 free kicks to half time when the highest team average for frees for a full game is 23...... not to mention we only got 6 back our way.

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« Reply #1768 on: May 24, 2021, 11:41:59 AM »
TIGERS’ FREE KICK WHINGE IS SIMPLY WRONG

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May 24th, 2021


If you’d listened to Twitter on Friday night, you would’ve thought Richmond was a free kick away from beating Brisbane.

Heck, if you’d listened to Damien Hardwick at halftime, you would’ve thought so too.

“Six to 21 free kicks mate, it’s pretty hard to win the ball when you’re either second to it or the count isn’t going our way,” the triple premiership coach told Channel 7.

He wasn’t wrong; the Tigers were behind in that stat. But he chose not to cite other statistics, such as Brisbane’s 37-19 inside 50s lead, or 21-11 clearance lead, or 83-57 contested possession lead.

The Lions went on to win quite comfortably, off the back of dominating the latter three categories. And Hardwick’s comments play into the great fallacy of footy: that the free kick count really matters.

In the book Footballistics, author James Coventry and his team analysed which statistics are most closely correlated with winning.

For example, between 2007 and 2017, the team that won the inside 50 count won the game 74.2 per cent of the time; if you’re winning the territory battle, you’re more likely to win the game.

What about free kicks? Well, the team that won the free kick count won the game 52.4 per cent of the time. That’s barely better than flipping a coin to tip a winner; even being the team that had more smothers (52.5 per cent) was more predictive.

So what does this tell us? Obviously free kicks - or non-free kicks - can be incredibly decisive. Just ask Melbourne fans. But overall it barely matters if you win or lose the free kick count; and there’s certainly nothing in the rules that says the count has to be even.

The funny thing is, Richmond has proven that better than anyone.

In their current dynastic era, the Tigers have always given away more free kicks than they’ve received. In 2017, 2018 and 2021 so far, they ranked 18th for free kick differential - the gap between the frees they received and the frees they gave away. They were 17th last year, and 13th in 2018.

Has that mattered? Obviously not. Richmond has won three flags in four years despite never getting ‘the rub of the green’ in the free kick count.

The common wisdom is that teams who are first to the ball win more free kicks, because they put themselves in positions to be awarded them. The Tigers aren’t the best contested ball team, and in recent years have prioritised winning the ball on turnover and applying manic pressure.

That manic pressure, and playing on the edge, means Richmond plays a risky style of footy. But the risks generally pay off, because if they don’t give away a free, they find themselves in an advantageous position.

We complain about free kicks because it’s an understandable emotional response. But for the most part, it’s just not rational.

Stop worrying about free kicks, Richmond fans. You too, Dimma.

https://www.foxsports.com.au/afl/afl-2021-round-10-analysis-talking-points-reaction-top-stories-richmond-free-kicks-hugh-mccluggage-brownlow-finals-chances/news-story/de26a073a2a1389682b24b31f1c1152c

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Re: State of Umpiring [merged]
« Reply #1769 on: May 24, 2021, 07:23:34 PM »
Years since last negative free kick differential (incl. 2021*):

0 BRI, COL, FRE, GCS, HAW, PTA, RIC, STK
1 CAR, ESS, GEE, GWS
2 MEL, SYD
3
4 ADE
5
6
7
8 WBD
9 NTH
10
11
12
13
14
15
16
17
18
19
20 WCE

https://twitter.com/SquiggleAFL/status/1396657170595278858

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Years since last positive free kick differential (incl. 2021*):

0 10 teams
1 BRI, COL, FRE, PTA
2 GCS
3 HAW
4 STK
5
6 RIC

https://twitter.com/SquiggleAFL/status/1396680414194900994