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Re: 2021 Draft thread
« Reply #180 on: September 14, 2021, 01:40:33 PM »
Good first round phantom draft by the guys at theinnersanctum.com.au have us taking Josh Sinn (Sandringham) at 9 and Matthew Johnson (Subiaco) at 18.
Here's the link: https://www.theinnersanctum.com.au/afl-phantom-draft/

1. North .... Horne-Francis
2. Coll bid .... Daicos
3. Dogs bid .... Darcy
4. GWS ........ Callaghan
5. GC ........... Gibcus
6. Adel ........ Roberts
7. Haw ........ Sonsie
8. Carl ........ Hobbs

9. Rich ........ Josh Sinn
7/01/2003 | 186cm | 82kg | General Defender | Sandringham Dragons/Vic Metro

NAB League: 5 games | 17.6 disp | 3.4 marks

Sinn is a pure line-breaker who could be a fantastic long-term replacement for the departing Bachar Houli coming out of defence. The Tigers have been found wanting with Jayden Short needing a helping hand to gain metres from the backline, and Sinn is a 100-metre player with his pace and booming kick for the Dragons. He has also shown his ability to push through the midfield and provide spark as well, adding to his value as a top-10 prospect.

Around the mark: Josh Rachele, Neil Erasmus

10. Freo ...... Erasmus
11. StK ....... Andrew
12. WCE ...... Goater
13. Ess ........ Rachele
14. GWS ...... Draper
15. Syd ........ Ward
16. GWS bid ... Fahey
17. Bris ......... Wilmot

18. Rich ........ Matthew Johnson
16/03/2003 | 193cm | 80kg | Inside Midfielder | Subiaco (WA)

WAFL Colts: 6 games | 21.3 disp | 0.5 goals

In possession of Geelong’s first-round pick, the Tigers have found some gems out of Western Australia in the past, consistently going across the Nullarbor with the likes of Shai Bolton and Nathan Broad, and more recently Matthew Parker in the mid-season draft. With Johnson, they get an appealing size for a contested midfielder, who possesses good agility and hands in the contest. He’s struggled to find his feet at senior level for Subiaco but there’s plenty of special traits he’s displayed to suggest he’ll excel at the elite level given time.

Around the mark: Ned Long, Mitch Knevitt

19. Port ........ Chesser
20. Bris ........ Conway



Be surprised if we took Sinn if Erasmus, Rachelle & Ward are all still on the board....not to mention using our first pick on yet another hbf.... :shh
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Re: 2021 Draft thread
« Reply #181 on: September 15, 2021, 02:55:21 PM »
Ultimate guide: The top 70 AFL Draft prospects

All eyes are about to turn to the 2021 AFL Draft. Get to know who’s available in our interactive dossier featuring full profiles and stats on 70 of the country’s best prospects.

https://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/afl/afl-draft-2021-dossier-profiles-and-stats-on-all-the-top-prospects/news-story/5e9141ca952455cefcc63aa9f65e0f79

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Re: 2021 Draft thread
« Reply #182 on: September 15, 2021, 03:35:36 PM »
The top prospects, future trade hurdle and clubs who could have the most impact: AFL draft state of play

Ben Waterworth
Fox Sports
September 15th, 2021 2:40 pm


While clubs will soon hit the trade table, the national draft set to be held later in the year is also front of mind.

The ‘fab four’, the future trade hurdles, the tricky new rule and the clubs who could do the most damage come November.

Foxfooty.com.au analyses the state of play on the 2021 AFL draft.

HOW DOES THIS TALENT POOL STACK UP – AND WHO ARE SOME OF THE TOP PROSPECTS?

Despite so many prospects’ seasons being interrupted by Covid-enforced pauses, clubs are genuinely excited by this year’s pool and the evenness across potentially three rounds.

Six of the young guns taken within the first 10 picks of last year’s national draft were key-position prospects. This year, however, it’s more of a hybrid draft, with the top of the pool to almost certainly feature more on-ballers, small forwards and rebound defenders.

There are four clear standouts — a ‘fab four’, if you like. Star Collingwood father-son candidate Nick Daicos and South Adelaide midfielder Jason Horne-Francis have been ranked in the top two from start to finish this year, while Bulldogs father-son prospect Sam Darcy and Sandringham Dragons on-baller Finn Callaghan have moved into top-five contention as their excellent 2021 campaigns have progressed.

From there, some recruiters believe you could “throw a blanket” over as many as 50 players, such is the evenness of the players on offer.

Others say there’s a peloton of four to six players chasing the top four. GWV Rebels defender Josh Gibcus and versatile Dandenong Stingrays ruckman Mac Andrew have roared into top-10 calculations, while GWV inside midfielder Ben Hobbs and Northern Knights ball magnet Josh Ward are also in the top-10 mix.

WA should also be well represented in the first round.

Subiaco midfielder Neil Erasmus is his state’s leading prospect at this stage, while teammate Matthew Johnson is also in the first-round mix after playing in all three WAFL grades this season. East Perth’s Jye Amiss is arguably the best key forward in the open draft after booting a WAFL colts season-high 51 goals — and just 14 behinds. He’d be perfect for Essendon at Pick 11, but he might be off the board by then.

Murray Bushrangers half-forward Josh Rachele looms as one of the most fascinating prospects. Uber talented, confident and electric around goal, the 180cm goalsneak is one of the most exciting players in this year’s pool. But recruiters are also wary of taking a punt on a small forward so early in the order.

Some prospects, like Eastern Ranges’ Tyler Sonsie, Sandringham’s Josh Sinn and Northern Knights’ Campbell Chesser, possess talent that’s worthy of being taken in the top 10, but a lack of continuity this year – either due to injury and Covid-enforced interruptions – might see them taken later in the first round.

WHICH CLUBS WILL HAVE THE BIGGEST SAY IN THE DRAFT?

There’s a lot of recruiters jealous of Richmond’s draft hand – and rightly so.

Compared to the past five years, the Tigers are now in unfamiliar territory. Not only did they miss finals this year, they have a stacked draft hand that includes two picks in each of the first, second and third rounds – and that’s before any possible trade involving Callum Coleman-Jones. As it stands, that’s Picks 7, 15, 26, 28, 40 and 44.

It gives Richmond ample scope at the trade table to add players to a list still seen by experts as flag contenders next year. At the same time, it’s a golden chance for the Tigers to add top-end talent via the draft.

If they went down the path of the latter, they’d then have the option of packaging up those selections and offering them to a rival club in a bid to move up the draft order.

https://www.foxsports.com.au/afl/draft/afl-draft-2021-order-news-top-prospects-future-trade-selections-new-bidding-rules-mac-andrew-melbourne/news-story/3f9c57e3ca550bbc86b0fc21bfa5bed0

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Re: 2021 Draft thread
« Reply #183 on: September 15, 2021, 04:01:08 PM »
If we get 20 for CCJ leaving us with 7, 15, 20, 26 & 28 with 40 & 44 as valuable commodities if it as even as it says here. 
Add Tahlia for back up, Doldo back with Ryan as back up plus Colina if he comes back. 
I would say Ryan has as much upside as CCJ anyway. 

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Re: 2021 Draft thread
« Reply #184 on: September 15, 2021, 04:40:07 PM »
pick 20 for a player who has had 4 years development who was a pick 20 :huh :huh :huh

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Re: 2021 Draft thread
« Reply #185 on: September 15, 2021, 04:49:21 PM »
pick 20 for a player who has had 4 years development who was a pick 20 :huh :huh :huh

If it’s offered I’d take it and run!!!
Second option is they walk him straight into the PSD and get him
for nothing.

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Re: 2021 Draft thread
« Reply #186 on: September 15, 2021, 04:57:42 PM »
Pick 20's fair enough....though GC probably would've coughed up pick 3 .. :shh
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Re: 2021 Draft thread
« Reply #187 on: September 15, 2021, 05:40:07 PM »
Best option is to up our offer, surely we can step up

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Re: 2021 Draft thread
« Reply #188 on: September 15, 2021, 08:00:21 PM »
Good first round phantom draft by the guys at theinnersanctum.com.au have us taking Josh Sinn (Sandringham) at 9 and Matthew Johnson (Subiaco) at 18.
Here's the link: https://www.theinnersanctum.com.au/afl-phantom-draft/

1. North .... Horne-Francis
2. Coll bid .... Daicos
3. Dogs bid .... Darcy
4. GWS ........ Callaghan
5. GC ........... Gibcus
6. Adel ........ Roberts
7. Haw ........ Sonsie
8. Carl ........ Hobbs

9. Rich ........ Josh Sinn
7/01/2003 | 186cm | 82kg | General Defender | Sandringham Dragons/Vic Metro

NAB League: 5 games | 17.6 disp | 3.4 marks

Sinn is a pure line-breaker who could be a fantastic long-term replacement for the departing Bachar Houli coming out of defence. The Tigers have been found wanting with Jayden Short needing a helping hand to gain metres from the backline, and Sinn is a 100-metre player with his pace and booming kick for the Dragons. He has also shown his ability to push through the midfield and provide spark as well, adding to his value as a top-10 prospect.

Around the mark: Josh Rachele, Neil Erasmus

10. Freo ...... Erasmus
11. StK ....... Andrew
12. WCE ...... Goater
13. Ess ........ Rachele
14. GWS ...... Draper
15. Syd ........ Ward
16. GWS bid ... Fahey
17. Bris ......... Wilmot

18. Rich ........ Matthew Johnson
16/03/2003 | 193cm | 80kg | Inside Midfielder | Subiaco (WA)

WAFL Colts: 6 games | 21.3 disp | 0.5 goals

In possession of Geelong’s first-round pick, the Tigers have found some gems out of Western Australia in the past, consistently going across the Nullarbor with the likes of Shai Bolton and Nathan Broad, and more recently Matthew Parker in the mid-season draft. With Johnson, they get an appealing size for a contested midfielder, who possesses good agility and hands in the contest. He’s struggled to find his feet at senior level for Subiaco but there’s plenty of special traits he’s displayed to suggest he’ll excel at the elite level given time.

Around the mark: Ned Long, Mitch Knevitt

19. Port ........ Chesser
20. Bris ........ Conway



Be surprised if we took Sinn if Erasmus, Rachelle & Ward are all still on the board....not to mention using our first pick on yet another hbf.... :shh
Still don’t know why Conner McDonald isn’t on this list.  :shh

A lot of clubs very interested and looking at him now.
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Re: 2021 Draft thread
« Reply #189 on: September 15, 2021, 11:01:20 PM »
We won't get 20.

North will probably offer 38 or go to PSD.

I'd be asking for 20 and offering to throw in 44 if they aren't keen.

Over a barrel!

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Re: 2021 Draft thread
« Reply #190 on: September 15, 2021, 11:33:08 PM »
20 would give us 5 picks inside the top 30 so we might as well chuck 'em 40 & 44 as we probably wouldn't use either of them unless we had plans to bundle them up as part of a trade for another higher pick.... :shh
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Re: 2021 Draft thread
« Reply #191 on: September 16, 2021, 12:02:39 AM »
I would think 40, 44 and the chol compo would be able to fetch us another first rounder. Think the dogs would be keen to trade their first since it’ll just get used on Darcy f/s and they’d want the points. So if something like that were to happen and we got 20 for CJ that would leave us with 6 picks in the top 30…..that’s a draft haul if I’ve ever seen one.

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Re: 2021 Draft thread
« Reply #192 on: September 16, 2021, 01:01:44 AM »
I would think 40, 44 and the chol compo would be able to fetch us another first rounder. Think the dogs would be keen to trade their first since it’ll just get used on Darcy f/s and they’d want the points. So if something like that were to happen and we got 20 for CJ that would leave us with 6 picks in the top 30…..that’s a draft haul if I’ve ever seen one.

Would we lose the Chol compo if we pick up another free agent like Talia??

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Re: 2021 Draft thread
« Reply #193 on: September 16, 2021, 01:08:13 AM »
I would think 40, 44 and the chol compo would be able to fetch us another first rounder. Think the dogs would be keen to trade their first since it’ll just get used on Darcy f/s and they’d want the points. So if something like that were to happen and we got 20 for CJ that would leave us with 6 picks in the top 30…..that’s a draft haul if I’ve ever seen one.

Would we lose the Chol compo if we pick up another free agent like Talia??

I’m not too clued in on all the rules surrounding free agency but I did read in another thread on here today that it wouldn’t given talia is a delisted free agent. Wouldn’t make sense if it did anyway as surely the club could just pick him up in the pre season draft so that it doesn’t impact the chol compensation.

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Re: 2021 Draft thread
« Reply #194 on: September 16, 2021, 09:25:50 AM »
Good first round phantom draft by the guys at theinnersanctum.com.au have us taking Josh Sinn (Sandringham) at 9 and Matthew Johnson (Subiaco) at 18.
Here's the link: https://www.theinnersanctum.com.au/afl-phantom-draft/

1. North .... Horne-Francis
2. Coll bid .... Daicos
3. Dogs bid .... Darcy
4. GWS ........ Callaghan
5. GC ........... Gibcus
6. Adel ........ Roberts
7. Haw ........ Sonsie
8. Carl ........ Hobbs

9. Rich ........ Josh Sinn
7/01/2003 | 186cm | 82kg | General Defender | Sandringham Dragons/Vic Metro

NAB League: 5 games | 17.6 disp | 3.4 marks

Sinn is a pure line-breaker who could be a fantastic long-term replacement for the departing Bachar Houli coming out of defence. The Tigers have been found wanting with Jayden Short needing a helping hand to gain metres from the backline, and Sinn is a 100-metre player with his pace and booming kick for the Dragons. He has also shown his ability to push through the midfield and provide spark as well, adding to his value as a top-10 prospect.

Around the mark: Josh Rachele, Neil Erasmus

10. Freo ...... Erasmus
11. StK ....... Andrew
12. WCE ...... Goater
13. Ess ........ Rachele
14. GWS ...... Draper
15. Syd ........ Ward
16. GWS bid ... Fahey
17. Bris ......... Wilmot

18. Rich ........ Matthew Johnson
16/03/2003 | 193cm | 80kg | Inside Midfielder | Subiaco (WA)

WAFL Colts: 6 games | 21.3 disp | 0.5 goals

In possession of Geelong’s first-round pick, the Tigers have found some gems out of Western Australia in the past, consistently going across the Nullarbor with the likes of Shai Bolton and Nathan Broad, and more recently Matthew Parker in the mid-season draft. With Johnson, they get an appealing size for a contested midfielder, who possesses good agility and hands in the contest. He’s struggled to find his feet at senior level for Subiaco but there’s plenty of special traits he’s displayed to suggest he’ll excel at the elite level given time.

Around the mark: Ned Long, Mitch Knevitt

19. Port ........ Chesser
20. Bris ........ Conway

Rather than Sinn and Johnson id rather Erasmus and Ward.