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Football => Richmond Rant => Topic started by: one-eyed on November 18, 2010, 07:37:00 PM
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Jake Batchelor
* Former club:Dandenong Stingrays / Frankston Bombers
* DOB:13/02/1992
* Height:188cm
* Weight:79kg
* Position:Defender
Video: http://bigpondvideo.com/RichmondTV/314418/richmond-pick-30-jake-batchelor/
(http://mm.afl.com.au/portals/0/batchelorx.jpg)
Player assessment
Impressively strong and quick, and a strong defender. Provides good run and can lock down on opponents before neatly disposing of the ball with his left foot. Played for the Dandenong Stingrays.
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Welcome Jay
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Not too much work to be done in the gym by the look of it!
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Sounds really good this kid. :cheers
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Video highlights look great, strong overhead and exceptionally quick !!
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Is his name Jay or Jake?
Nevertheless good luck. :thumbsup
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didnt' see this one coming. but welcome jake
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Welcome Jay
My fault - typo. It's Jake ;).
Here's the video....
http://www.afl.com.au/news/newsarticle/tabid/208/newsid/100806/default.aspx#embedvideoplayer
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Welcome Jay
My fault - typo. It's Jake ;).
Here's the video....
http://www.afl.com.au/news/newsarticle/tabid/208/newsid/100806/default.aspx#embedvideoplayer
I thought it was Jay, is it Jay or Jake MT
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Welcome Jay
My fault - typo. It's Jake ;).
Here's the video....
http://www.afl.com.au/news/newsarticle/tabid/208/newsid/100806/default.aspx#embedvideoplayer
I thought it was Jay, is it Jay or Jake MT
His name is JAKE.
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Highlights indicate no right foot but seems to go ok. Hopefully he turns out to be a good selection.
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Is it just me or does his facial features resemble a certain Ben Cousins ?
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Here's video of Batchelor
http://bigpondvideo.com/RichmondTV/314418/richmond-pick-30-jake-batchelor/ (http://bigpondvideo.com/RichmondTV/314418/richmond-pick-30-jake-batchelor/)
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Is it just me or does his facial features resemble a certain Ben Cousins ?
He does a little now that you mention it!
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2010 National Draft - Jake Batchelor Pick 30
(http://www.richmondfc.com.au/portals/0/richmond_docs/batchelor246.jpg)
DOB: 13/02/1992
H: 188.2cm
W: 79.4kg
Club: Dandenong Stingrays
Type: Rebounding defender
WATCH JAKE BATCHELOR HIGHLIGHTS: http://www.richmondfc.com.au/roarvisionarchive/tabid/11454/contentid/314418/default.aspx
What the RFC recruiters say:
Jake has played the last 2 years as a member of the strong defensive unit of the Dandenong Stingrays TAC U18 team. A strongly built player, Jake was a key component of the Dandenong team playing 17 games in 2010.
Jake is a left footer who posses great depth and precision in his kicking, and will be looked upon to add further depth into our rebounding defenders. Jake had a really consistent year at TAC level, averaging 21 disposals across the season and playing a strong role in the Stingrays finals campaign across the half back line. Jakes best game was a 31 possession, 8 mark and 10 R50 game against Tasmania’s U18 National side in Rd 5. While Jake was prominent rebounding from defence in the TAC averaging 4 R50’s per game, he was also relied upon to be dangerous going inside F50. He set up many scoring plays with his precise kicking an also averaged 3 I50’s per game. Jake is really strong overhead and has the confidence to fly for his marks in defence and he possesses the hardness coach Damien Hardwick expects of his defensive unit. He had game highs of 10 marks in Rd 10 v Nth Ballarat and 11 marks v Sandy Dragons in Rd 15.
Jake is a real team player that does the small thing instinctively well. He is always there for his teammates either taking a chop out defensive mark in front of an opposition leading forward or to put on a strong block for his team at the stoppages.
In his own words:
What type of player are you?
A half-back-flanker who takes the game on at every opportunity, setting up offensive attacks whist still having the ability to lock down on an opponent.
Which AFL player do you feel you resemble and why?
Sam Gilbert - a very attacking backman with the ability to play on both talls and smalls.
What are your strengths as a footballer?
A long left foot kick, good contested mark, I have the ability to read the game well and leadership.
What parts of your game would you like to improve?
Endurance and skills below my knees.
Which AFL team do you support and how did you come to barrack for them?
North Melbourne - because I loved Wayne Carey when I was a kid.
Who has been the biggest influence on your career so far, and why?
My parents. They have given up a lot of time in their own lives to give me the best opportunity to succeed, in both football, and life in general, by taking me everywhere for 10 years.
http://www.richmondfc.com.au/News/2010NationalDraftNews/JakeBatchelor/tabid/15510/Default.aspx
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Some pre-draft articles on Batchelor.....
Nervous wait for hopeful Batchelor
By Simon McEvoy
Frankston Standard Leader
18 OCT 2010, Page 081
(http://images.newsphotos.com.au/images8/Lores/82687736.jpg)
THE past 12 months has been something of a football magic carpet ride for Frankston South teenager Jake Batchelor.
And the ride could be about to deliver him to an AFL club as one of the latest draftees.
``It's become a very serious goal now and I wouldn't want anything else in the world,'' he said of his bid to play in the AFL.
In September, 2009, Batchelor played in two grand finals in the space of eight days. He was part of the Frankston Bombers' drought-breaking senior premiership and then played at Etihad Stadium in the TAC Cup grand final with the Dandenong Stingrays alongside Tom Scully, Ryan Bastinac and Dylan Roberton.
The good times flowed on this year. Season 2010 was a break-out year for the former Frankston Rovers junior.
He took his game to a new level, starring on a back stuff in many of the Stingrays' 15 wins.
Deservedly, Batchelor last month won the Stingrays' best and fairest award, joining a crack list of past winners that includes Justin Leppitsch, Trent Croad and Aussie Jones.
``Going into the night I didn't have any expectations,'' he said.
``I knew I had a good year. I was very happy with the award.''
With several AFL clubs showing interest, Batchelor was chosen to attend the AFL Draft Combine in Canberra.
Over four days he threw himself into a series of tests and spoke with a string of AFL clubs.
``I spoke to a few clubs before the draft camp and I had about nine or so interviews up there,'' he said. ``I don't know what to take out of it, but I guess the more (interviews) you have the more you put yourself out there.''
Draft day on November 18 could be the most thrilling day of his life.
``If a club is willing to take me I'm willing to give it all I've got. I'd be happy to go anywhere to be honest,'' he said.
Batchelor says watching his former Stingrays teammates Scully, Bastinac and Roberton make successful entries into the AFL this year had spurred him on.
``Last year I didn't really understand what it took to make it to the big stage, and then I watched Ryan Bastinac, Tom Scully and Dylan Roberton from last year and realised how they train, prepare themselves and do all the right things after a game,'' he said. ``To become a professional you've got to act like one.
``Twelve months ago they were in my position so to see what they have done in 12 months is amazing and that just drives me that little bit extra to get the best out of myself and give it a red hot crack.''
Batchelor said the star trio had provided helpful advice.
``They've been good with me and given me a bit of help.''
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Jake Batchelor (Dandenong Stingrays, Vic)
Height: 187cm, Weight: 82kg, DOB: 13/02/92
Left-footed medium defender who is strong overhead and a neat disposer of the ball. Provides good run and can lock down on opponents.
http://www.wafootball.com.au/talent/152-talent/2221-nab-afl-draft-combine-medium-defenders
Summary from Inside Football
JAKE BATCHELOR
defender/midfield
Dandenong Stingrays, Vic
Born: 13/2/92
Ht: 187cm
Wt: 82kg
"Jake won our best and fairest playing predominantly as a rebounding half back. A good size, he has great hands and is a super reader of the game. A terrific one-on-one player who set up a lot of our rebounds and was our No. 1 rebounding player and at marking the ball from opposition kicks. He's one of those classic, rebounding half backs that AFL clubs are really excited about. A really balanced player coming off a tremendously consistent year and he deserves a crack at AFL level. I think he'll get it." - Dandenong Stingrays coach Graeme Yeats
http://oneeyed-richmond.com/forum//index.php?topic=12125.0
Summary from Snoops' phantom draft on BF:
Selection # 102
Jake Batchelor – Dandenony Stingrays / 187cm / 82kg
Profile : Lovely player who reads the play well and is prepared to take the game on. Reminds me of Marty Mattner with his poise and composure and just has that penetrating kick Marty has as well. Originally had him higher but testing results may push him back. Very talented though and should go.
Why Suns: Will appreciate that tallish defender who can mark talls and smalls but is also attacking and will provide dash and good skills from HB.
Similar to: Martin Mattner
Draft Range: 50 - Rookie
http://www.bigfooty.com/forum/showthread.php?t=771940
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Not the greatest pic of him
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Good luck to him
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Atleast 10 players could have been picked before Batchelor and Itll be interesting to see how he goes compared to all these others
1) Parker
2) Farmer
3) Green
4) Hallahan
5) Mitchell
6) Crocker
7) Steinberg
8) Howe
9) Young
10) Horlin-Smith
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Is it just me or does his facial features resemble a certain Ben Cousins ?
He does a little now that you mention it!
He also looks like another Ben, Ben folds
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he looks like he is about to kick himself in the forehead and fall flat on his a rse in that photo, hope he plays better for us.
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Batchelor roams the field
richmondfc.com.au
By Tony Greenberg
Fri 19 Nov, 2010
Jake Batchelor is the “quintessential half-back flanker” . . .
That’s how Richmond’s second pick in the 2010 National Draft has been described by former Geelong ruckman, Darren Flanigan, who is the regional manager of TAC Cup under-18s team, Dandenong Stingrays.
Batchelor, 18, 188cm and 79kg, won the Stingrays best and fairest award in 2010, and Flanigan was suitably impressed with his football development, which has culminated in him now finding his way on to the Tigers’ senior playing list.
“Jake has worked really hard on his game over the last couple of years,” Flanigan said.
“As a 16-year-old, he probably wasn’t in our best 25. So, to get from where he was, to where he is now, is a super effort and reward for the amount of work he’s done.
“He’s a very attacking player, likes to back himself in, is really strong one-on-one, a very good contested mark, a strong left-foot kick, and he was probably in the quickest three or four players at our club.
“He does play like the quintessential half-back flanker . . . reads the play extremely well, wins his own footy, wins his one-on-ones, is very strong overhead, and can push up the ground.
“We moved him forward one day, and he took about eight marks in our inside-50. We chucked him in the midfield a couple of times as well, and he kept finding the footy. He’s got a happy knack of being where the ball is.”
Flanigan also praised Batchelor’s character . . .
“Jake’s a good kid . . . a really solid citizen. He was in the work force this year, so he had to balance his work commitments with his footy and social life, and he did it really well,” Flanigan said.
http://www.richmondfc.com.au/news/newsarticle/tabid/6301/newsid/105459/default.aspx
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An opposition supporter's view of Batchelor (who has seen Jake play over the past few years):
Really impressed you guys pulled shot gun on Jake at pick 30, can't believe these nufties had him down at picks 100 - odd in their phantom drafts.
Have seen a bit of Jake over the past few years, debut in the senior team as a 15 year old and was somewhat of a late bloomer. Was in and out of their development squads right up until last pre season where he really cemented himself in the squad.
In terms of who he plays like, Sam Gilbert/sam Fisher is the perfect way to describe him. Is a very good reader of the play which allows him to get into positions to take marks from opposition kicks, he has a beautiful long left footed kick on him which is certainly a feature of his game and will use it to great effect.
Pace wise you mentioned earlier, he is reasonably quick and was in the top 10% at Dandenong this year (not sure on the exact number he was ranked).
Overall, he was probably thee biggest bolter of this years draft for sure, in 18 months he has come from seemingly no where to now being a second round draft pick.
One last thing, the kid will not shirk a contest, have played against some of those Frankston Bombers teams and they breed them tough down there, so he will be well set for senior football sooner rather than later.
http://www.bigfooty.com/forum/showpost.php?p=19628013&postcount=56
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Atleast 10 players could have been picked before Batchelor and Itll be interesting to see how he goes compared to all these others
1) Parker
2) Farmer
3) Green
4) Hallahan
5) Mitchell
6) Crocker
7) Steinberg
8) Howe
9) Young
10) Horlin-Smith
and like you'd know ramps :lol
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Atleast 10 players could have been picked before Batchelor and Itll be interesting to see how he goes compared to all these others
1) Parker
2) Farmer
3) Green
4) Hallahan
5) Mitchell
6) Crocker
7) Steinberg
8) Howe
9) Young
10) Horlin-Smith
and like you'd know ramps :lol
I knew enough to name Conca back in May when all you clowns were just naming top picks like Gaff ;D Its easy to name the best 2 or 3 ... how about naming a supposed 20 to 30 draft pick player back in May and seeing him getting his name called out in November at pick 6 - which is what I did!
Thanks for your time :lol
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Atleast 10 players could have been picked before Batchelor and Itll be interesting to see how he goes compared to all these others
1) Parker
2) Farmer
3) Green
4) Hallahan
5) Mitchell
6) Crocker
7) Steinberg
8) Howe
9) Young
10) Horlin-Smith
and like you'd know ramps :lol
I knew enough to name Conca back in May when all you clowns were just naming top picks like Gaff ;D Its easy to name the best 2 or 3 ... how about naming a supposed 20 to 30 draft pick player back in May and seeing him getting his name called out in November at pick 6 - which is what I did!
Thanks for your time :lol
touche
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I knew enough to name Conca back in May when all you clowns were just naming top picks like Gaff ;D Its easy to name the best 2 or 3 ... how about naming a supposed 20 to 30 draft pick player back in May and seeing him getting his name called out in November at pick 6 - which is what I did!
Thanks for your time :lol
Ramp's I think you qualify for one of my favourite sayings............
"It's hard to humble when you're as great as I am"
:rollin :rollin
:lol
:jump :jump
:congrats :ROTFL
:outtahere :outtahere
:yep
:eyebrow
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I knew enough to name Conca back in May when all you clowns were just naming top picks like Gaff ;D Its easy to name the best 2 or 3 ... how about naming a supposed 20 to 30 draft pick player back in May and seeing him getting his name called out in November at pick 6 - which is what I did!
Thanks for your time :lol
Ramp's I think you qualify for one of my favourite sayings............
"It's hard to humble when you're as great as I am"
:rollin :rollin
:lol
:jump :jump
:congrats :ROTFL
:outtahere :outtahere
:yep
:eyebrow
Ramps: I forgot to add tongue is firmly planted in cheek :thumbsup
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Richmond recruit's numbers come up
By Roy Ward
Greater Dandenong Weekly
22 Nov, 2010
AFTER 18 years waiting, three digits were all that stood between Jake Batchelor and his dream of playing AFL football.
But those three digits took an eternity to be read out.
Richmond recruiting manager Francis Jackson was a little tardy delivering the final three numbers in Batchelor's player registration number when he selected the defender with pick 30 in the AFL Draft on Thursday night.
The 18-year-old former Stingray was watching the telecast at home with family and friends in Frankston.
"We were all on the edge of our seats after he read the first few digits," Batchelor said.
"It took forever. When we realised it was me, I think we all put our hands in the air and screamed. It is an amazing feeling to get drafted, it hasn't sunk in yet."
Batchelor was due to attend his first function with the Tigers yesterday afternoon.
The hard-running back man said the experience of being drafted was unforgettable but he would now turn his attention to putting in the hard work necessary to build a successful AFL career.
While determined to remain grounded, he couldn't help the odd daydream about stabbing a pass onto the chest of Tigers star Jack Riewoldt next season.
"I'm trying not to do it but it is pretty hard," he said. "I need to get to the club first and meet everyone, then get stuck into preseason.
"There is so much to go before I can start thinking about doing things like that."
http://www.greaterdandenongweekly.com.au/news/local/sport/football-australian-rules/richmond-recruits-numbers-come-up/2003935.aspx
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Youtube vision of Batchelor
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0k0by3kavsI&feature=player_embedded
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Batchelor party for Jake
Matt Windley From: Herald Sun December 13, 2010 12:00AM
FOR Richmond new boy Jake Batchelor, hearing his name called at last month's AFL draft signalled a change of career.
Batchelor was not old enough to be drafted after finishing school in 2009, so instead he juggled a full-time job at a local insurance broker with TAC Cup football this year.
But even though he was satisfied with the job, he was more than happy to tell his boss that he was quitting.
"I had to finish the job up on draft night," Batchelor said.
"The boss is great. He's a family friend and he hired me at the start of the year knowing that footy came first.
"He knew there was a possibility I could get drafted. I told him two or three months ago I had been getting some interest from some clubs and I might not be in one day in late November.
"I went to work on the Thursday of the draft and said my goodbyes just in case. I said to them 'I might see you tomorrow, I might not. Fingers crossed I don't'.
"They're all fine with it. They've been great."
The Dandenong Stingrays product has made a name for himself in the TAC Cup for his dash off half-back.
And despite facing stiff competition at Punt Rd, the 18-year-old said he wanted to continue in that role.
"I do want to keep that up," Batchelor said. "I've got a bit of competition with Chris Newman and Brett Deledio there - a lot of competition.
"But I've played there for the last three years and I think I've grown into that position pretty well.
"But I think I could find myself on a wing or half-forward or even give a chop out in the middle once that fitness base grows. We'll just have to see what happens."
As the youngest of four children, Batchelor is used to having to fight for his lot in life. But don't expect the pre-season grind to get him down.
"I'm down the bottom of the barrel now. I guess you sort of work your way to the top at your local club and now you've got to do that all again," he said.
"But that's one of the exciting things, knowing that you've got to earn your spot. Nothing is given to you.
"I'm looking forward to working hard and earning that respect out on the track."
http://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/afl/batchelor-party-for-jake/story-e6frf9jf-1225969756769
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Video of Batchelor interview (from RFC YouTube)
http://www.youtube.com/v/H3pvQlLEO44
* First game - didn't know what to expect but happy with the first game.
* Young team - just tried to get our structures right and thought we did that.
* Playing in front of 40k is a bit nerve-racking certainly different to 50-100 in the TAC Cup.
* Coaching staff said have fun; stick to what we've been doing over the preseason; stick to the basics and don't get too extravagant.
* Boys from Richmond very helpful and made the transition from junior footy easier than he thought.
* Trying to model his game on Lids and Newy. Harder you work the more results you'll get.
* To play in round 1 would be great in front of 70k against Carlton but just want to train hard and try to give himself the opportunity to play senior footy.
* Who to look out for this year? Foley looking the goods and could be one of the steals of the year; Derickx to do pretty well this year.
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Jake's dad was just on SEN. He said Jake is loving it at Richmond and couldn't be happier. Richmond have been great and he couldn't have gone to a better club and I think he also said for various reasons they would've chosen Richmond before the draft. The opportunities are there for Jake as it's a young side and Jake will be seen by the coach as one of those to take the club forward.
Jake played onball in the U12s as the best kids always play onball before moving to half-back and where he's played for the rest of his junior footy.
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One of the few highlights for me in the match v the pies was without doubt Jake's monster tackle on Dane Swan where Swan certainly came off second best. Anyone else remember this magic moment?
This kid is improving with every game.
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One of the few highlights for me in the match v the pies was without doubt Jake's monster tackle on Dane Swan where Swan certainly came off second best. Anyone else remember this magic moment?
This kid is improving with every game.
Would love to get a video of that and have it as my avatar lol
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One of the few highlights for me in the match v the pies was without doubt Jake's monster tackle on Dane Swan where Swan certainly came off second best. Anyone else remember this magic moment?
This kid is improving with every game.
poo- was that batchelor?? I went nuts but missed who it was as i was mouthing off to a few neighbours
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One of the few highlights for me in the match v the pies was without doubt Jake's monster tackle on Dane Swan where Swan certainly came off second best. Anyone else remember this magic moment?
This kid is improving with every game.
I thought that was Helbig???
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No it was Jake, Swan thought he was clear and Jake slammed him.
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Definitely was Batchelor, was funny watching Swan after the tackle shaking his arm, looked to have copped a little stinger. :clapping
Tough boy is our Batchelor. :thumbsup
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Highlight reel for future reference already. :thumbsup
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Nice and tough and should furnish into an alpha male with any luck
Nice skills only critisism looks to lack a yard of pace.
Projects as our very own Josh Hunt as long as he can put on the kilos
Like what I see
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One of the few highlights for me in the match v the pies was without doubt Jake's monster tackle on Dane Swan where Swan certainly came off second best. Anyone else remember this magic moment?
This kid is improving with every game.
How could i forget it? I've still got the sticky patch in my jocks to remind me.
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Video link please. :cheers
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Nice and tough and should furnish into an alpha male with any luck
Nice skills only critisism looks to lack a yard of pace.
Projects as our very own Josh Hunt as long as he can put on the kilos
Like what I see
TBH I havent really noticed him lacking pace for the position he plays.
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Notable for me is that the coaches (Leppitsch) are giving him jobs already against the younger resting rucks for short periods.
Excellent teaching process since he can't use his height and must think about other tools, reminds me of Sheedy, the cunning rat.
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this kid CAN play ! :thumbsup
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Video link please. :cheers
Of Al's sticky patch? ? ? ? :o
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Ive got that on Pussy gALore's top 10 moments.....
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this kid CAN play ! :thumbsup
i agree jack, looks to have a long career ahead, wont be long before we see his current 10-15 possie game soon become a regular 15-20...is very composed :shh
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this kid CAN play ! :thumbsup
i agree jack, looks to have a long career ahead, wont be long before we see his current 10-15 possie game soon become a regular 15-20...is very composed :shh
Shows a load more than Bacher
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this kid CAN play ! :thumbsup
i agree jack, looks to have a long career ahead, wont be long before we see his current 10-15 possie game soon become a regular 15-20...is very composed :shh
Shows a load more than Bacher
What on earth is the point of that comparison?
Houli was a free player, what is with all the knives out for the bloke so quickly?
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Mate, are you the comparison police? To me he shows more promise than Bacher. That may change we are only 4 weeks in. Bacher has been a little disappointing, Jake has probably exceeded expectations.
There I compared them again!
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Shows a load more than Bacher
What on earth is the point of that comparison?
Houli was a free player, what is with all the knives out for the bloke so quickly?
Mate, are you the comparison police? To me he shows more promise than Bacher. That may change we are only 4 weeks in. Bacher has been a little disappointing, Jake has probably exceeded expectations.
There I compared them again!
Lots of posts on OER have absolutely no point at all (see most of GG and DD posts)
At least HRT's post was talking about football and not like the inane dribble that comes from some posters.
:thumbsup
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A highly skilled natural competitor and if we're doing comparisons i'll take Hodge.
Nothing flashy, hard, matt black, V8 interceptor :thumbsup
At least HRT's post was talking about football and not like the inane dribble that comes from some posters.
Your smock need changing again sad gran? :lol
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Lots of posts on OER have absolutely no point at all (see most of GG and DD posts)
At least HRT's post was talking about football and not like the inane dribble that comes from some posters.
Yes and half of your posts are you bitching about them.
So you're not much better are you?
At least their posts are amusing. Your posts make me :sleep
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Mate, are you the comparison police? To me he shows more promise than Bacher. That may change we are only 4 weeks in. Bacher has been a little disappointing, Jake has probably exceeded expectations.
There I compared them again!
:thumbsup
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Batchelor is my new favorite player, I love this kid.
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Anyone got the tackle on youtube yet? Bloody game analyser on afl.com.au is on the blink again.
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Lots of posts on OER have absolutely no point at all (see most of GG and DD posts)
:thumbsup
Lmao - as opposed to continuous and underhanded 'pot shots' from damaged goods like your fine self. :lol
Its 12.29pm, shouldnt you be on yard duty or smoking some other teacher's bat? :-*
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Anyone got the tackle on youtube yet? Bloody game analyser on afl.com.au is on the blink again.
Checked this morning, no luck.
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Here's Jake being interviewed at post-match recovery:
http://bigpondvideo.com/RichmondTV/352608/recovery-jake-batchelor/
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I really like this kid.
Shattered on draft day but he has not shown many weakness at all thus far.
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Hes a big boy too. I wouldnt be suprised if he's 190/191cm, rather than his listed height.
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This kid is a ripper!!!!
He looks so comfortable out on the ground and seems to have time and a level head.
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Robbo rates Batch ....
Jake Batchelor
Plenty of best-played games listed today, and, OK, it was only Batchelor's sixth, but we going to apply the oft-used cliche: The Tigers have found one here. His best previous numbers were 13 in Round 1 v Carlton and on Saturday night it was 23 against the Lions. Conca has been added to the talented list of Martin, Cotchin, Riewoldt, Deledio, Foley, and today Batchelor joins them. For a young player, a baby, the key elements of performance are effort, standing up under pressure and making cool decisions. Tick. Tick. Tick. As for the Tigers ... welcome back. Terrific win.
http://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/afl/tackle
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Robbo rates Batch ....
Jake Batchelor
Plenty of best-played games listed today, and, OK, it was only Batchelor's sixth, but we going to apply the oft-used cliche: The Tigers have found one here. His best previous numbers were 13 in Round 1 v Carlton and on Saturday night it was 23 against the Lions. Conca has been added to the talented list of Martin, Cotchin, Riewoldt, Deledio, Foley, and today Batchelor joins them. For a young player, a baby, the key elements of performance are effort, standing up under pressure and making cool decisions. Tick. Tick. Tick. As for the Tigers ... welcome back. Terrific win.
http://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/afl/tackle
I think he meant the Dockers, not the Lions.
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Jake will be the guest on Ch 9's TAC Cup Rising Stars at 1pm to talk about his journey to AFL footy.
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Thought was one who stood up yesterday. Had a good game. :thumbsup
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Unfortunately I don't agree on this point Tuckerbag. I thought he was really down and his disposal was not as good as it usually is
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Unfortunately I don't agree on this point Tuckerbag. I thought he was really down and his disposal was not as good as it usually is
His disposal was poorer than usual but thought he had a good game back from a weeks rest.
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Dimma was asked last night if that was Batchelor's best game ...
"He's had a pretty solid season. Look we believe he's going to be a very good player for us. You know he's first year but the way he uses the ball, his composure - he's a smart player. We think he's going to be a long-term player for us which is good."
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Growing pains
By Jason Phelan
Sun 10 Jul, 2011
FIRST-YEAR Richmond player Jake Batchelor has experienced some extreme highs and lows in his short AFL career and he's confident the Tigers aren't far away from climbing out of their most recent trough.
Richmond suffered its fifth loss in six games when it succumbed to Essendon by 39 points on Saturday night, but Batchelor maintains the run of outs are growing pains rather than backward steps.
"We all want to learn and we're on this journey together," he said.
"We have our setbacks obviously, but we'll be a better team for it. We know we'll be right. We've got faith in our game plan."
The Tigers conceded the last 10 goals of the match at the MCG, which Batchelor said was easy to see happening, but harder to stop.
"You can sense it, but I just think it comes down to maturity to be able to stop that run and then go again," he said.
"It's all a mindset. We know that we can do it, but we just need to get that self-belief that we can do it week in, week out.
"I thought we were right in the game for two-and-a-half quarters, but they got a run on and we dropped off with our intensity a bit, which is uncharacteristic. We need to be able to run out a full four quarters week in, week out.
"When we played with composure earlier in the game we got the results we wanted, but we went away from that and it cost us dearly."
That lack of composure manifested itself on the scoreboard, of course, but was also easy to pinpoint of the stats sheet where Richmond was out-tackled 89-59.
"We were up by two tackles at quarter-time and we lost that by 30 by the end of the game," Batchelor said.
"They lifted their intensity and we didn't match them.
"That's a bit of inconsistency, but I think the main thing was we just lacked a bit of composure."
http://www.richmondfc.com.au/news/newsarticle/tabid/6301/newsid/118189/default.aspx
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SEN said Batch's shoulder will be monitored during the week. Hopefully it's not too bad.
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Richmond football manager Ross Monaghan said 19-year-old defender Jake Batchelor, who suffered slight concussion in the match against Geelong, is expected to recover for the clash with fifth-placed West Coast in Perth on August 7.
http://news.smh.com.au/breaking-news-sport/richmond-hope-newmans-season-isnt-over-20110725-1hwx0.html
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Richmond football manager Ross Monaghan said 19-year-old defender Jake Batchelor, who suffered slight concussion in the match against Geelong, is expected to recover for the clash with fifth-placed West Coast in Perth on August 7.
http://news.smh.com.au/breaking-news-sport/richmond-hope-newmans-season-isnt-over-20110725-1hwx0.html
Didn't know ones shoulder could suffer concussion ;D
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Depends where your brain is I guess
My idiot suffers concussion all the time
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Richmond's Batchelor returns to roving roots
Frankston Weekly
26 Jul, 2011
AFL footballer Jake Batchelor returned to his junior football club, the Frankston Rovers, last Thursday to lead a coaching session.
Now with Richmond, the 19-year-old defender debuted for the Tigers in round one and has played 14 AFL matches.
The Frankston Rovers received a NAB club recognition award after Batchelor notched up 11 kicks, 11 handpasses, six marks and two tackles in a match against Essendon at the MCG in round 16. The award is a package of practical and financial resources designed to assist developing future champions which is presented after each round to the nominated player's junior football club.
Richmond coach Damien Hardwick said Batchelor's development has continued throughout the season.
"Jake has worked really hard to get his opportunity and we have been impressed with how composed he looks at the highest level.
"He is an outstanding character around the club."
http://www.frankstonweekly.com.au/news/local/sport/football-australian-rules/afl-richmonds-batchelor-returns-to-roving-roots/2237103.aspx
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:thumbsup
Another great pick up who gives me hope.
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I'm backing the Batch to be the next Goddard.
Call me out in round 11, 2014. :thumbsup
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I'm backing the Batch to be the next Goddard.
Call me out in round 11, 2014. :thumbsup
Not sure he has the flair of Goddard but I can definitely see him becoming an effective onballer in time.
This kid has the hunger & ability to become an excellent senior footballer in time. Great pick up.
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I'm backing the Batch to be the next Goddard.
Call me out in round 11, 2014. :thumbsup
Not sure he has the flair of Goddard but I can definitely see him becoming an effective onballer in time.
This kid has the hunger & ability to become an excellent senior footballer in time. Great pick up.
When i think Goddard, I dont think flair, moreso a disciplined footballer who does the basics very very well. A workhorse like our young Batch. Respnsibility, accountability, and can both kick. The flair moment for mine for Gods was that mark in 2010GF#1, what a gem. But an interesting perspective. Thank you :thumbsup
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When i think Goddard, I dont think flair, moreso a disciplined footballer who does the basics very very well. A workhorse like our young Batch. Respnsibility, accountability, and can both kick. The flair moment for mine for Gods was that mark in 2010GF#1, what a gem. But an interesting perspective. Thank you :thumbsup
A fair point. Certainly won't be at all surprised to see Batch kick on to great things.
He has what all the good ones have. Time & poise.
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Anyone know the latest news on Batch's shoulder? Last I heard leaving the ground was the medicos had put the shoulder back in in the rooms. I hope there isn't any ligament damage and he won't have any lasting effects :pray.
That's our third young defender to go down with injury this year :scream.
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No op.might be back in a fortnight
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No op.might be back in a fortnight
No need to play him again - operation or not. Just let him work on getting strenght in his shoulder
Been a very good pick up - plenty of footy smarts that lad
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No op.might be back in a fortnight
Good news :thumbsup. I agree with WP and we should put Batch in cotton wool for the rest of the season so he's right to go for preseason. There's no need to bring him back for one or two games.
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as long as they dont replace him with effing mcguane
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as long as they dont replace him with effing mcguane
;D he be back next week against Melbourne :lol
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He was having a good game too. Hope he has no lingering issues.
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Batch gone for the season according to Dimma.
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Batch gone for the season according to Dimma.
Very good call by the Club IMHO
No need to risk further damage
get him right for a huge pre-season
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Ex-Stingray relishes the highs with Tigers
By Roy Ward
Greater Dandenong Weekly
14 Nov, 2011
TRUE glory is hard to come by in an AFL rookie season.
There are plenty of highs and just as many lows but short of the rare feat of a rookie-year premiership a player needs to look to smaller successes.
Richmond midfielder Jake Batchelor had his best experience early in the Tigers' 2011 season when he played in his first win for the yellow and black.
The former Dandenong Stingrays skipper said singing the club song for the first time was a special albeit a little disgusting experience.
"You come out looking like you just jumped in the pool," he joked. "You get about five litres of Powerade thrown over you, you stink but it's a great feeling especially to yell out 'Yellow and black' at the end of the Tigers song."
The 19 year old was taken at pick 30 in last year's AFL draft and went on to play 16 games for the Tigers this past season.
He said playing for one of the league's biggest clubs was exciting, especially in the big games like the annual Dreamtime at the 'G game between the Tigers and Essendon.
"The roar that goes up when the siren sounds at the start, it's surreal," he said. "I was used to playing in front of a few hundred people for the Stingrays. then we were playing in front of 83,000 people or so at the Dreamtime game.
"You can block it out while you are playing but it's pretty special when you get those big roars when we do something good. It reminds you the supporters are there to watch us succeed."
Batchelor happened to play one of his best games for the season in that match, scoring the AFL's weekly rising star nomination which netted him a monetary reward but more importantly much-needed confidence.
"You need a little confidence in your ability so you can to do things in games," he said. "After a few good games you understand your role more and progress further."
The only downside for Batchelor was a combination of shoulder and hip injuries that forced him to miss some matches over the season.
But after minor surgery, he is in the closing stages of his rehabilitation and is close to joining the main Tigers group for preseason training.
"Adjusting to the training was the hardest thing because the players go so hard and do it over six days of the week plus team meetings," he said.
Batchelor's assured play earned him a contract extension which he signed last week, keeping him at the Tigers for the next two seasons, a stay he hopes to further extend. "I don't want to be anywhere else," he said.
http://www.greaterdandenongweekly.com.au/news/local/sport/football-australian-rules/afl-exstingray-relishes-the-highs-with-tigers/2356695.aspx?storypage=0
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"The roar that goes up when the siren sounds at the start, it's surreal," he said. "I was used to playing in front of a few hundred people for the Stingrays. then we were playing in front of 83,000 people or so at the Dreamtime game.
"You can block it out while you are playing but it's pretty special when you get those big roars when we do something good. It reminds you the supporters are there to watch us succeed."
Wait till the team starts succeeding Batch and you'll get that roar every week and then 100-fold during the finals :thumbsup.
Batchelor's assured play earned him a contract extension which he signed last week, keeping him at the Tigers for the next two seasons, a stay he hopes to further extend. "I don't want to be anywhere else," he said.
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"The roar that goes up when the siren sounds at the start, it's surreal," he said. "I was used to playing in front of a few hundred people for the Stingrays. then we were playing in front of 83,000 people or so at the Dreamtime game.
"You can block it out while you are playing but it's pretty special when you get those big roars when we do something good. It reminds you the supporters are there to watch us succeed."
Wait till the team starts succeeding Batch and you'll get that roar every week and then 100-fold during the finals :thumbsup.
Batchelor's assured play earned him a contract extension which he signed last week, keeping him at the Tigers for the next two seasons, a stay he hopes to further extend. "I don't want to be anywhere else," he said.
:thumbsup
Should hear that roar this year then at the finals.... :cheers
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if not we will the hear the roar of frustration from WAT reverberate around the country ;D
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One word TALENT this kid has bucket loads of it, stay tuned :thumbsup
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if not we will the hear the roar of frustration from WAT reverberate around the country ;D
:thumbsup
:rollin :rollin :rollin :rollin
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if not we will the hear the roar of frustration from WAT reverberate around the country ;D
The roar of of disappointment from another crap season don't you mean....
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LOL poor ol Wat. Im keeping an objective outlook after many years of delusion and frustration lol.
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Out of the Draft: Jake Batchelor video ...
http://bigpondvideo.com/RichmondTV/404534/out-of-the-draft-jake-batchelor/
or
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_profilepage&v=LUCEJmrNOMI
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Roar focus interview: Jake Batchelor
http://www.richmondfc.com.au/roarvisionarchive/tabid/11454/contentid/419852/default.aspx
* Batch had 3 surgeries post last-season (hips). A couple of set backs early on in the preseason but he's back in the main training group now.
* This year will be playing HBF as well as pushing up to the wing. He's technically part of the midfield group now so there's more running and endurance training as well as much defensive work. He was working on improving his endurance as part of his rehab. In the future plans to push into the midfield and play mainly on a wing.
* We've gone through an intensive training phase and now plan to taper off as the preseason games kick in.
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Roar focus interview: Jake Batchelor
http://www.richmondfc.com.au/roarvisionarchive/tabid/11454/contentid/419852/default.aspx
* Batch had 3 surgeries post last-season (hips). A couple of set backs early on in the preseason but he's back in the main training group now.
* This year will be playing HBF as well as pushing up to the wing. He's technically part of the midfield group now so there's more running and endurance training as well as much defensive work. He was working on improving his endurance as part of his rehab. In the future plans to push into the midfield and play mainly on a wing.
* We've gone through an intensive training phase and now plan to taper off as the preseason games kick in.
All the great sides have career defenders back there, every defender we have seems to have a plan to push into midfield. ::)
Batch is as natural a HB or medium defender as Ive seen on our list, keep him there. You dont see Hawks saying they want Bircgell to move into midfield in a few years or the pies about H.Shaw and H.Obrien. Secret to a strong backline is to have players that play there together over multiple seasons.
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Roar focus interview: Jake Batchelor
http://www.richmondfc.com.au/roarvisionarchive/tabid/11454/contentid/419852/default.aspx
* Batch had 3 surgeries post last-season (hips). A couple of set backs early on in the preseason but he's back in the main training group now.
* This year will be playing HBF as well as pushing up to the wing. He's technically part of the midfield group now so there's more running and endurance training as well as much defensive work. He was working on improving his endurance as part of his rehab. In the future plans to push into the midfield and play mainly on a wing.
* We've gone through an intensive training phase and now plan to taper off as the preseason games kick in.
All the great sides have career defenders back there, every defender we have seems to have a plan to push into midfield. ::)
Batch is as natural a HB or medium defender as Ive seen on our list, keep him there. You dont see Hawks saying they want Bircgell to move into midfield in a few years or the pies about H.Shaw and H.Obrien. Secret to a strong backline is to have players that play there together over multiple seasons.
because the game is changing and is becoming more attacking every yr, defence will be all but gone , it will be attack attck attack fast and furious
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Roar focus interview: Jake Batchelor
http://www.richmondfc.com.au/roarvisionarchive/tabid/11454/contentid/419852/default.aspx
* Batch had 3 surgeries post last-season (hips). A couple of set backs early on in the preseason but he's back in the main training group now.
* This year will be playing HBF as well as pushing up to the wing. He's technically part of the midfield group now so there's more running and endurance training as well as much defensive work. He was working on improving his endurance as part of his rehab. In the future plans to push into the midfield and play mainly on a wing.
* We've gone through an intensive training phase and now plan to taper off as the preseason games kick in.
All the great sides have career defenders back there, every defender we have seems to have a plan to push into midfield. ::)
Batch is as natural a HB or medium defender as Ive seen on our list, keep him there. You dont see Hawks saying they want Bircgell to move into midfield in a few years or the pies about H.Shaw and H.Obrien. Secret to a strong backline is to have players that play there together over multiple seasons.
because the game is changing and is becoming more attacking every yr, defence will be all but gone , it will be attack attck attack fast and furious
Tell that to the cats, pies and Hawks who all have several defenders who are career defenders, none of this grooming for the midfield tripe
Lids and Newman are both reported to be moving from the backline. Those 2 have settled there for a few seasons now, going to mess with the chemistry if you keep changing out your ball movers every few seasons.
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Moving into the midfield is a pre-season buzzword.
Hayden Ballantyne is looking to push into the midfield. Betts, Rioli, Milne have all had the same said about them in the past.
They always end up staying where they're best suited.
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He has stated that he wants to make the transition which is the difference.
Batch strikes me as someone who doesn't let much stand in the way of his goals.
He has more hope of making it as an onballer than most IMO.
Excellent toolset, good defensively and a fine decision maker.
Let the boy loose.
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Agree with that MM but at the same time he could be a bloody sensational defender.
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I'm pretty keen to move into the mid field this year.
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got a bit of a run there myself today.
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Moving into the midfield is a pre-season buzzword.
Hayden Ballantyne is looking to push into the midfield. Betts, Rioli, Milne have all had the same said about them in the past.
They always end up staying where they're best suited.
And Mark LeCras
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Agree with that MM but at the same time he could be a bloody sensational defender.
Agree Coach
Houli & Batchelor as our rebounding HBF works for me and will work a treat for the team :thumbsup
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It's Jake's 20th birthday today :birthday
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Agree with that MM but at the same time he could be a bloody sensational defender.
Yep, he has a touch of James Clement about him, can play tall and small, sure hands, chooses the right angle and step. He never went in the middle much as he was too valuable down back. Hope Batch makes it there though. HippoBirdy2Ewe Batch!
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Batch is now on twitter....
https://twitter.com/#!/jakebatchelor11
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I think the freo game showed us where his best possie is :whistle
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Jake Batchelor: Under the Tigerscope ...
http://www.richmondfc.com.au/roarvisionarchive/tabid/11454/contentid/428271/default.aspx
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Richmond's eligible Batchelor
By Paul Daffey
afl.com.au
11:22 PM Wed 14 Mar, 2012
IF RICHMOND half-back Jake Batchelor is noted for one trait at this early stage in his career, it's his kicking. The 20-year-old appears to be a traditional left-footer; a long, raking kick to position.
But Batchelor believes his kicking needs work. As a junior, he had a penchant for kicking low and hard over 40 metres. "Low bullets," as he described them to richmondfc.com.au.
While some would come off, looking magnificent as they sped towards a teammate, others flew at indiscreet angles to his boot. Consistency was a problem.
Since arriving at arriving at Punt Road before the 2011 season, Batchelor has tried to fix the problem, and mostly he's succeeded. But occasionally he reverts to type and tries to send a skimmer forward.
And, as with his junior days, some come off while others have a mind of their own.
The trick, he's found out, is to try to get some air into his kicks.
"I'm just trying to take a step back, not kick as hard, just lob the ball up a little more," he said. "But I still make the occasional blunder."
Batchelor also wants to improve his concentration. Three Geelong players kicked goals against him during the Tigers' 59-pointy victory at Simonds Stadium on Saturday.
And he wants to get more of the ball, to become an attacking player as well as a stopper.
"I need to add some run and carry," he said.
In truth, Batchelor's start to his AFL career has been exceptional.
He was never a star as a junior. He played only half the TAC Cup season with the Dandenong Stingrays as a 17-year-old in 2009 before being dropped.
He spent most of the rest of the season playing with his home club, Frankston Bombers, where he played in a premiership.
The next week, after Stingrays captain Tom Scully had broken his kneecap, he was in the Stingrays' team that played in the grand final against the Calder Cannons.
As an 18-year-old Batchelor had a good season with the Stingrays but was unable to make the Victorian Country team for the national under-18 championships.
Richmond drafted him on potential — and it's proved an astute choice.
Batchelor played 16 games in his debut season. The games he missed were through injury.
He missed one match because of a "hot spot" in his foot and five games at the end of the season through a strained AC joint.
The fact that he was never dropped and never came back into the team via the Coburg Tigers indicates the coaches' faith in him.
At 188cm and 78kg, he seems ripe for a run on a wing before an eventual move into the midfield.
Batchelor had three operations after the 2011 season: a clean out on his shoulder and clean outs of both hips. He spent five weeks doing rehab running before joining the main group in mid-December.
His ability to run out games during the NAB Cup indicates that he's stepped up in fitness.
He shows every sign of kicking on.
http://www.afl.com.au/news/newsarticle/tabid/208/newsid/130709/default.aspx
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At 188cm and 78kg, he seems ripe for a run on a wing before an eventual move into the midfield.
If Batch is only 78kgs, I'll do a streak run at the G in round 1.
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Nice to see Batch awaken from a so-so preseason which saw him omitted from round 1 and return to form. His composure, awareness in congestion and execution under pressure was mostly very good tonight. He was able to spot up teammates through the Collingwood press which opened up the play for us. For mine Batch was a best player after Lids and gave him votes.
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Used the ball so well tonight.
His appetite for the contest knows no satiety.
Just keeps getting back up.
Left his man and contested and won ball he had no right to win.
That mark he took on the second grab in the last running 30 metres off his man to get to the contest and win it was just indicative of how he plays he generally plays his footy.
If he can play like that week in week out and free up Lids into the midfield and Conca into the midfield..... we will be much better off as a side and much more dangerous.
Good to see he has put his pre season form behind him and put up his hand for selection and grabbed his opportunity with both hands. Signs of a player solid in mind and attitude. :thumbsup
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even allowing for the loss in height, the side was a lot better for him replacing post. he is everything that post is not.
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IMO the reason his form was average in the pre-season was because he was playing in the midfield. He is not a midfielder. He is a natural backman and a bloody good one at that. :thumbsup
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IMO the reason his form was average in the pre-season was because he was playing in the midfield. He is not a midfielder. He is a natural backman and a bloody good one at that. :thumbsup
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IMO the reason his form was average in the pre-season was because he was playing in the midfield. He is not a midfielder. He is a natural backman and a bloody good one at that. :thumbsup
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Was one selection decision they got right, played well was cool with the ball in his hands and used it well :gotigers
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IMO the reason his form was average in the pre-season was because he was playing in the midfield. He is not a midfielder. He is a natural backman and a bloody good one at that. :thumbsup
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x3 :clapping
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IMO the reason his form was average in the pre-season was because he was playing in the midfield. He is not a midfielder. He is a natural backman and a bloody good one at that. :thumbsup
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Batch looked awesome, was really impressed with the way he busted through some tackles kept his cool and was good by foot.
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IMO the reason his form was average in the pre-season was because he was playing in the midfield. He is not a midfielder. He is a natural backman and a bloody good one at that. :thumbsup
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was awesome - commitment to man and contest was everything we need going forward...hopefully some of his passages of play are singled out for certain others to watch & that they realise what is required in terms of ferocity/desire/intent - shame it takes such a young feller to lead the way for some of our more senior blokes...good decision making & foot skills as well...
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He is our version of Sam Fischer i reckon.
Gun.
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Batch made one of Robbo's unsung heroes for the weekend...
UNSUNG HERO
2. JAKE BATCHELOR
Indicative of Richmond's attitude in the third quarter was Batchelor's chase-down tackle on Aaron Davey, which resulted in 55m goal for Reece Conca. Most of his teammates ran to Conca, the coach would've highlighted Batchelor.
http://www.heraldsun.com.au/afl/happy-handballers-at-north-melbourne/story-fn7si01d-1226327290972
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Richmond has found a footballer :thumbsup
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Batch made one of Robbo's unsung heroes for the weekend...
UNSUNG HERO
2. JAKE BATCHELOR
Indicative of Richmond's attitude in the third quarter was Batchelor's chase-down tackle on Aaron Davey, which resulted in 55m goal for Reece Conca. Most of his teammates ran to Conca, the coach would've highlighted Batchelor.
http://www.heraldsun.com.au/afl/happy-handballers-at-north-melbourne/story-fn7si01d-1226327290972
Here's where everyone can vote
http://www.stuff-1226327690174
Currently Batch is coming last :(
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Too right hes a fine footballer, another great selection from fj :shh
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Was knackered at the end
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Currently Batch is coming last :(
Not anymore ;D
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Currently Batch is coming last :(
Not anymore ;D
Comfortable lead now.
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After a lacklustre preseason which saw him miss/dropped for round 1, Batch has really been strong and solid for us down back 3 weeks running since returning to the side. Reads the play well and shows good composure under pressure for bloke in just his 2nd year.
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Agree completely
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He just makes the game look simple. He refuses to make it complex. Spoils when he needs to, marks when he needs to, kicks to advantage and chases/tackles when he doesn't have the ball. He also blocks and makes space when he is required to.
You don't have to be Einstein to do all these things! :whistle
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i thought our 3 youngest defenders (grimes,vance,and batch) were also our best defenders,although i thought Houli was good too
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Very good emerging player reminds alot of joel bowden
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After a lacklustre preseason which saw him miss/dropped for round 1, Batch has really been strong and solid for us down back 3 weeks running since returning to the side. Reads the play well and shows good composure under pressure for bloke in just his 2nd year.
:thumbsup
An old head on young shoulders
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joel Bowden????...NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO..lol
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Very good emerging player reminds alot of joel bowden
I agree totally.
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Very good emerging player reminds alot of joel bowden
Are you serious BJ.
I agree on the very good emerging player but the only coincidence with Jake and Joelene is the number 11 guernsey.
Jake is far far tougher. Exactly what we need off half back.
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Batch interviewed in the rooms after the game:
http://bigpondvideo.com/RichmondTV/442620/In%20the%20rooms:%20Batchelor%20post%20game/
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Batch interviewed in the rooms after the game:
http://bigpondvideo.com/RichmondTV/442620/In%20the%20rooms:%20Batchelor%20post%20game/
Loved the way he corrected the interviewer about the location of next weeks game. Fantastic young man!!!!
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Had a bit of a night out at daveys in frankston last night
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Had a bit of a night out at daveys in frankston last night
the coach is an accommodating man
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(http://i.imgur.com/iA9Zp.jpg)
Interesting pic from training yesterday ;D
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LOL Danog.
I don't see Batch as the same type of player as Bowden but provided he doesn't bust his collarbones like Joel did when he was starting out in AFL (that's why Joel became more an outside player until Plough put him at CHB), Batch won't be compared to Bowden.
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(http://i.imgur.com/iA9Zp.jpg)
Interesting pic from training yesterday ;D
Reminds me of a classic tiger forum post :shh
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Very similar to Bowdo
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I dont see him being like the same as joel bowden. More a natural defender.
You can see why this kid won the bf in his years best 18 club.
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I hope he has a really good game against Sydney. He had a really bad game against Port which was a real shame because he played very well the week before.
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I wrote in another thread Rance is a gem.
I echo these sentiments about Jake. If anything Jake is more of a natural defender and playing defence comes more easily for him. Will be a great half back for us one day. :thumbsup
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Plays tall but still lack the height to be a true CHB. Reads the play beautifully though, is a fantastic mark and beautiful kick. If he can develop his over defencive game he will make a rebounding defender for a decade. LOve kids who can come straight in and play and we have found 3 of them in two years - BAtch, Conca and Ellis :thumbsup
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Jake Batchelor is a gun.
Playing well above his age
Great pic up :thumbsup
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Jake Batchelor is a gun.
Playing well above his age
Great pic up :thumbsup
Disgraceful that he wasn't picked in round one
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Jake Batchelor is a gun.
Playing well above his age
Great pic up :thumbsup
Disgraceful that he wasn't picked in round one
Agree, I cant believe we overlooked him with pick 6!
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Jake Batchelor is a gun.
Playing well above his age
Great pic up :thumbsup
Disgraceful that he wasn't picked in round one
Agree, I cant believe we overlooked him with pick 6!
:banghead
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Like heppell without the gayness
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Like heppell without the gayness
el ohel
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Like heppell without the gayness
:lol
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Like heppell without the gayness
HEPPELL is a class one girl and has not had an opponent yet .
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Like heppell without the gayness
HEPPELL is a class one girl and has not had an opponent yet .
Always easy to look good playing loose of half back. Ask Jason Cloke
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I call him Nick Maxwell Barbie™
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Like heppell without the gayness
HEPPELL is a class one girl and has not had an opponent yet .
That's why Jake King needs to play on him next week. :shh
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I call him Nick Maxwell Barbie™
Retro Horitier
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Interview with Batch on this week's "Bound for Glory" show!! Tune in! (Check stickied posts for more info)
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Just a reminder that my interview with Batch is on during the Bound For Glory show this morning from 10am! 90.7FM in Melbourne, or listen online at the SYN website. Tune in! :)
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0JEvLW9ZppA
Interview with Batch starts at 25:30. :)
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0JEvLW9ZppA
Interview with Batch starts at 25:30. :)
Great get for your show Danog :thumbsup
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VIDEO: Batch being interviewed by Astbury in the rooms after the game last night ...
http://bigpondvideo.com/RichmondTV/455571/In%20the%20rooms:%20Astbury/Batchelor/
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Like heppell without the gayness
:lol
:rollin :lol
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Batch out for a couple of weeks with a knee injury. So that's another Tiger down :P .....
The news, however, is not quite as positive in the short-term for defender Jake Batchelor, who injured his right knee during last Saturday’s game.
“Jake had scans yesterday and, pleasingly, there’s not too much damage there . . . just a bit of bone bruising,” Hornsby said.
“So, he may miss a couple of weeks, but, hopefully, it settles down pretty quickly over this week and we can get a greater read on how many weeks he’ll be missing.”
http://www.richmondfc.com.au/news/newsarticle/tabid/6301/newsid/141652/default.aspx
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Batch out for a couple of weeks with a knee injury. So that's another Tiger down :P .....
The news, however, is not quite as positive in the short-term for defender Jake Batchelor, who injured his right knee during last Saturday’s game.
“Jake had scans yesterday and, pleasingly, there’s not too much damage there . . . just a bit of bone bruising,” Hornsby said.
“So, he may miss a couple of weeks, but, hopefully, it settles down pretty quickly over this week and we can get a greater read on how many weeks he’ll be missing.”
http://www.richmondfc.com.au/news/newsarticle/tabid/6301/newsid/141652/default.aspx
Fml
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Looked pretty good last night, quick, big and with good skills
Either drops the ball at height or lets his hands go too early with his kicks but is a really good kick regardless.
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Toweled up Hurley first game back :clapping
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Very sharp last night. Good signs.
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Always liked Batch, tonight he showed great signs for next year. Definitely back of our back 6 for a long time I would think
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Will need to have a big pre season and be 100% for round 1 2013
Kid can play
With Grimes back next year .games will need to be earnt
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Surely that back 6 will include both Grimes and Bachelor.
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Toweled up Hurley first game back :clapping
Hurley played down back :lol
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Toweled up Hurley first game back :clapping
Hurley played down back :lol
He started forward but was sent back after Batchelor yowled him up ;)
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Toweled up Hurley first game back :clapping
Hurley played down back :lol
He started forward but was sent back after Batchelor yowled him up ;)
He was sent back to shut down Dave Astbury 8) :lol
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Toweled up Hurley first game back :clapping
Hurley played down back :lol
He started forward but was sent back after Batchelor yowled him up ;)
He was sent back to shut down Dave Astbury 8) :lol
:lol
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Toweled up Hurley first game back :clapping
Hurley played down back :lol
He started forward but was sent back after Batchelor yowled him up ;)
TFT could see it :banghead
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Toweled up Hurley first game back :clapping
Hurley played down back :lol
He started forward but was sent back after Batchelor yowled him up ;)
He was sent back to shut down Dave Astbury 8) :lol
Not that astbury was doing much to actually be shut down, but he did towel him up, for sure.
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Has the potential to be a very good player. Sometimes his decision making lets him eg chip in the forwardline he did against bombers which was intercepted but I believe with experience and good coaching his decision making will become very good in future.
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1st game back after a spell - was good with a few errors noted.
Have a lot of time for this kid - looks to be hard at it
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Great closing speed, will be a ripper. :thumbsup
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Played much better on Friday than he had for most of the season. 2nd season blues (he says with all fingers and toes crossed).
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Played much better on Friday than he had for most of the season. 2nd season blues (he says with all fingers and toes crossed).
He reminds me of a young Goddard . . . :thumbsup
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Harsh. Goddard was ass when he was young
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Harsh. Goddard was ass when he was young
Get with it, a young Goddard, not Goddard when he was young :police:
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Harsh. Goddard was ass when he was young
Get with it, a yound Goddard, not Goddard when he was young :police:
Yound? Stop trying to confuse people FFS :banghead
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:rollin
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I have seen many 'best 22' without Bach.
Where does he fit in 2013?
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I have seen many 'best 22' without Bach.
Where does he fit in 2013?
Mrs Houli still makes tabouli every thursday night...
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It's Jake's 21st today :birthday
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:birthday yay sleeping pills! :birthday
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Happy Birthday Jake.... :birthday
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Do we all agree if fit the talls down back would be.
Grimes, Rance, and Chaplin. if Grimes is not fit Griffiths is likely to play CHB. Dunno where this leaves Astbury.
Can we all agree based on last yr Morris is a lock in for one of the remaining 3 med/sml spots.
So effectively theres two spots available with 5 players at a minimum trying to win one of them.
The front runners for those two spots have to be mediums in Batchelor, Dea, Newman. smls in Ellis, Houli.
Some variations on this could be Vlastuin getting games of hb an idea i really like.
Two other possibilities imo are Mcintosh being played as a tall running back and Helbig who imo is ideal for a defensive role. Thats 8 players vieing for 2 spots.
Batchelor imo has plenty of competition for a spot.
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Understand your reasoning Claw, but I think Batchelor has one advantage over Dea, Newman and even Morris and Vlastuin.
He has that extra bit of height that allows him to be used more flexibly as he did last year as CHB against Hurley.
I think really that Morris as you say has a lock on a HBF but I think his competition is really Dea, Newman, Vlastuin and surprisingly Petterd.
While I see your point about Helbig I think they're really looking at him as a more forward/midfield option competing against Knights.
Batchelor really only has Grimes as competition for that taller option until McIntosh or Darrou are more experienced.
Smalls as you say will be Ellis, Houli and Arnot.
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Didn't Batch or one of the coaches say last year that they saw him eventually pushing up the field and playing on a wing?
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Didn't Batch or one of the coaches say last year that they saw him eventually pushing up the field and playing on a wing?
Yeah, I think it was pre-season.
First time they tried it (in an NAB game IIRC) was a disaster.
He was totally lost and didn't know where to go. His opponent chewed him up and spat him out and I think they shelved the idea.
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Understand your reasoning Claw, but I think Batchelor has one advantage over Dea, Newman and even Morris and Vlastuin.
He has that extra bit of height that allows him to be used more flexibly as he did last year as CHB against Hurley.
I think really that Morris as you say has a lock on a HBF but I think his competition is really Dea, Newman, Vlastuin and surprisingly Petterd.
While I see your point about Helbig I think they're really looking at him as a more forward/midfield option competing against Knights.
Batchelor really only has Grimes as competition for that taller option until McIntosh or Darrou are more experienced.
Smalls as you say will be Ellis, Houli and Arnot.
i see it a little differently redan but i too understand where your coming from.
while jake at 188cm is no midget it certainly is not ideal to have him play against kpfs. hurley would tear him apart 8 out of 10 times imo. dea and vlastuin are both 187? just 1 cm in it.lets not have our players constantly having to fight out of their weight/height division. if we play 3 genuine talls back we want the other 3 to provide good run and importantly good delivery as well as accountability when needed and with good decision making.
batch would be ideal if a tall back went down during a game but you want him lining up on the chris maynes or even a edwards of the world and providing plenty of run.dylan grimes in his short interupted career has shown he is the third tall.
imo batch is in a dog fight with dea, vlastuin, and mcintosh who in time may become a kpp. in mcintosh i see a much more accountable grant birchall or andrew mackie.
i dunno i have some real concerns about jake yet there is also a lot of things i really like about him.
on morris morris is there because of his aggresion and ability to play on smalls imo batchelor does not have the pace/agility to play on smalls. morris and batch are not in competition.
imo helbig could do a similar role to morris with better skills. that would in time free morris up to do a run with role in the midfield eliminating the need for hacks like jackson and white.
ben darrou if he ever makes it i see as a genuine f/b a little like mal michael. the shorter but powerful kpd.others of his ilk have been grover at freo rutten at adelaide not overly tall at 190cm but powerful and strong at around 100kg.
most likely im wrong about jake but you know if i was looking down the track 3 yrs my back 6 plus a few in cover would go.
b/ morris 185/83 - chaplin 195/100 - grimes 193/93
hb/ mcintosh 192/92 - rance 194/95 - helbig 185/85 possibly ellis because of his foot skills coming out.
if helbig makes it as a mid fine,i just like the idea of playing him of hb. i have always had plenty of time for matt dea and batchelor let them fight for their spots.
over the next one or two drafts at the latest 3 drafts i really hope we target a genuine fb with a 1st or second rnd pick.
anyway just some thoughts on the subject. by the way an interesting exercise is say looking who will be there in 3 yrs time. over the next 3 off seasons we will likely turn over a minimum of 15 players thats conservative. by the start of 2016 i would hope we are in a top 4 if not premiship, sheesh its been that long i cant even spell it window, if we get it right. if blokes like batchelor are potentially struggling for agame in 2016 it means we have good cover in the role now, and done a few things right.
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Not sure Redan meant name him as a KPD in the side claw. But if a Rance, Grimes or Chaplin went down we'd still be able to play him as a KPD if desperate.
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Not sure Redan meant name him as a KPD in the side claw. But if a Rance, Grimes or Chaplin went down we'd still be able to play him as a KPD if desperate.
sorry as usual i havent made myself clear enough. really have to do an english cou i gree with redan jake can pinch hit if the need requires. maybe im not giving enough credit to him for this versatility.
but you know i look at wce and schofield last yr. hes a 195cm running defender at what 90-95kg. last yr when mckenzie went down he was asked to do the job on the hurleys or big kpfs. and he went okay. theres a difference between 188cm and 195. its a big ask for the 188 player and it can lead to disaster.
i see the third tall pinch hit role atm job for grimes or mcintosh.
if we structure up right we wont have to worry about jake batchelor having to play on genuine kpfs if something goes wrong. for me bigger stronger faster has always meant exactly that.
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Not sure Redan meant name him as a KPD in the side claw. But if a Rance, Grimes or Chaplin went down we'd still be able to play him as a KPD if desperate.
but you know i look at wce and schofield last yr. hes a 195cm running defender at what 90-95kg. last yr when mckenzie went down he was asked to do the job on the hurleys or big kpfs. and he went okay. theres a difference between 188cm and 195. its a big ask for the 188 player and it can lead to disaster.
So that explains why Batch completely destroyed Hurley in our 2nd game against the Bombers last year?
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Not sure Redan meant name him as a KPD in the side claw. But if a Rance, Grimes or Chaplin went down we'd still be able to play him as a KPD if desperate.
sorry as usual i havent made myself clear enough. really have to do an english cou i gree with redan jake can pinch hit if the need requires. maybe im not giving enough credit to him for this versatility.
but you know i look at wce and schofield last yr. hes a 195cm running defender at what 90-95kg. last yr when mckenzie went down he was asked to do the job on the hurleys or big kpfs. and he went okay. theres a difference between 188cm and 195. its a big ask for the 188 player and it can lead to disaster.
i see the third tall pinch hit role atm job for grimes or mcintosh.
if we structure up right we wont have to worry about jake batchelor having to play on genuine kpfs if something goes wrong. for me bigger stronger faster has always meant exactly that.
Don't disagree. I would have Batch as the 4th tall who could step up as the 3rd tall which against alot of teams it is pretty much KPD. Would only be an in game thing you would imagine as Griff would also be eyeing a spot as a KPD.
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Don't disagree. I would have Batch as the 4th tall who could step up as the 3rd tall which against alot of teams it is pretty much KPD. Would only be an in game thing you would imagine as Griff would also be eyeing a spot as a KPD.
Yep thats the way I'd play it as well with Grimes as an option when fit.
The dumb thing IMO is that they lost Moore and got rid of Post who both played that role.
OK if Post wasn't good enough but why not take Hartigan with the Petterd pick rather than switch Petterd to defence where we have too many mediums already (Morris, Newman, Dea, Helbig).
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Don't disagree. I would have Batch as the 4th tall who could step up as the 3rd tall which against alot of teams it is pretty much KPD. Would only be an in game thing you would imagine as Griff would also be eyeing a spot as a KPD.
Yep thats the way I'd play it as well with Grimes as an option when fit.
The dumb thing IMO is that they lost Moore and got rid of Post who both played that role.
OK if Post wasn't good enough but why not take Hartigan with the Petterd pick rather than switch Petterd to defence where we have too many mediums already (Morris, Newman, Dea, Helbig).
yep i agree with that.
grimes is clearly a superb reader of the ball in the air and its shown by how often he destroys the ball with a fist. to me he is the free defensive agent who gets across to give chaplin or rance a hand.
my 4th tall would be mcintosh in time he would be my schofield or birchall type.
medium sized defenders and potential medium sized defenders are.
dea, batchelor, newman, verrier, morris, plus vlastuin, conca, deledio,and helbig. the last 4 should become/are important mids so they give much flexability.we also have a tall in mcintosh who can play on the stuff and they think he can become a mid.
we also have sml options in houli and ellis both there for their delivery skills coming out.ellis hopefully will also become a decent mid.
personally a mid over petterd if petterd is to be a backman. horsley, martin, dwyer and moloney in the last couple of yrs alone.
petterd as a medium forward actually filled a list need or gave us some depth in an area that was lacking. but he doesnt as a defender as you aptly pointed out.
imo our definate tall defenders are chaplin, grimes. rance, darrou, and mcintosh, if the wheels fall off theres also mcguane. thats 6 with two utilities in griffiths and astbury.
ya know i dont see a genuine fb among the lot of them. a fb in the rutten , lake, frawley mould. chaplin definately has the body type .
the concerns with this lot is darrou a rookie odds are against him, mcguane imo a proven liability down back and both astbury and griffiths are needed up forward as the numbers in tall forwards are very small.
anyway just some thoughts.
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Understand your reasoning Claw, but I think Batchelor has one advantage over Dea, Newman and even Morris and Vlastuin.
He has that extra bit of height that allows him to be used more flexibly as he did last year as CHB against Hurley.
I think really that Morris as you say has a lock on a HBF but I think his competition is really Dea, Newman, Vlastuin and surprisingly Petterd.
While I see your point about Helbig I think they're really looking at him as a more forward/midfield option competing against Knights.
Batchelor really only has Grimes as competition for that taller option until McIntosh or Darrou are more experienced.
Smalls as you say will be Ellis, Houli and Arnot.
i see it a little differently redan but i too understand where your coming from.
while jake at 188cm is no midget it certainly is not ideal to have him play against kpfs. hurley would tear him apart 8 out of 10 times imo. dea and vlastuin are both 187? just 1 cm in it.lets not have our players constantly having to fight out of their weight/height division. if we play 3 genuine talls back we want the other 3 to provide good run and importantly good delivery as well as accountability when needed and with good decision making.
batch would be ideal if a tall back went down during a game but you want him lining up on the chris maynes or even a edwards of the world and providing plenty of run.dylan grimes in his short interupted career has shown he is the third tall.
imo batch is in a dog fight with dea, vlastuin, and mcintosh who in time may become a kpp. in mcintosh i see a much more accountable grant birchall or andrew mackie.
i dunno i have some real concerns about jake yet there is also a lot of things i really like about him.
on morris morris is there because of his aggresion and ability to play on smalls imo batchelor does not have the pace/agility to play on smalls. morris and batch are not in competition.
imo helbig could do a similar role to morris with better skills. that would in time free morris up to do a run with role in the midfield eliminating the need for hacks like jackson and white.
ben darrou if he ever makes it i see as a genuine f/b a little like mal michael. the shorter but powerful kpd.others of his ilk have been grover at freo rutten at adelaide not overly tall at 190cm but powerful and strong at around 100kg.
most likely im wrong about jake but you know if i was looking down the track 3 yrs my back 6 plus a few in cover would go.
b/ morris 185/83 - chaplin 195/100 - grimes 193/93
hb/ mcintosh 192/92 - rance 194/95 - helbig 185/85 possibly ellis because of his foot skills coming out.
if helbig makes it as a mid fine,i just like the idea of playing him of hb. i have always had plenty of time for matt dea and batchelor let them fight for their spots.
over the next one or two drafts at the latest 3 drafts i really hope we target a genuine fb with a 1st or second rnd pick.
anyway just some thoughts on the subject. by the way an interesting exercise is say looking who will be there in 3 yrs time. over the next 3 off seasons we will likely turn over a minimum of 15 players thats conservative. by the start of 2016 i would hope we are in a top 4 if not premiship, sheesh its been that long i cant even spell it window, if we get it right. if blokes like batchelor are potentially struggling for agame in 2016 it means we have good cover in the role now, and done a few things right.
I think the fact Batch can play tall is more reason to have him playing as people are saying but not because he can cover injury, but he can also help give a chop out like Grimes does and Chaps is meant to be.
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Back pocket.
Helbig / Ellis / Conca to end up in the middle, release our best players forward.
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Why didnt he play in all stars?
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Why didnt he play in all stars?
he's not indigenous
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What do people think about Batch playing that leading forward role?
He is a good size for a leading forward, he is really good overhead, is a nice long kick and runs and tackles hard and can do just as good a job as a leading forward as Aaron Edwards and Brett O'Hanlon.
And IMO he might have to to get a game in the long term.
Thoughts??
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Not for mine. He's a natural defender. Looks lost forward of centre and plays better when he is tasked with stopping a bloke.
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Not for mine. He's a natural defender. Looks lost forward of centre and plays better when he is tasked with stopping a bloke.
Well said gerkin
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Why didn't he play in All stars?
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Batch was on SEN just after midday.
* He said he's now feeling more confident in his body and what he needs to do on gameday.
* He's excited for the Club by the young blokes in their 2nd, 3rd and 4th years coming through.
* Like Dimma he's not worried about another close loss as we were trying a few things out there last night.
* Newy was a more vocal captain on and off-field whereas Cotch is more a "lead by example" type.
Why didn't he play in All stars?
I think he had a slight niggle a couple of weeks back but he played well last night so he's fine.
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Batch last night was clean with his handling.
One thing that is slightly askew with him is he can shank the footy by foot.
Other than that I like his toughness and the way he goes about his footy. :thumbsup
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Yep was solid, always handles it clean
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Should be best 22 imo
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Agree Tony :thumbsup
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Should be best 22 imo
Must be in starting back 6.
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Batchelor buoyant
By richmondfc.com.au
Wednesday, February 27, 2013
Young defender Jake Batchelor will enter his third season with Richmond well placed to take the next step in his league career.
After a total of 30 senior appearances in 2011-12, and a solid pre-season over the past few months, he feels he’s sufficiently prepared to start exerting more influence in Richmond’s line-up throughout 2013.
Read more at: http://www.richmondfc.com.au/news/2013-02-27/batchelor-buoyant#sthash.AnRGbirz.dpuf
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This guys kicking is a bit how you going
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not really
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not really
Always looks like he's searching for the perfect target before he puts it on the boot and makes a mess of it.
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not always
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This guys kicking is a bit how you going
:nope
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not always
40/60 hope he improves
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Going ok. Think he is overrated by many though. Has plenty of flaws to iron out yet.
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I've never once been greeted by Batch's kicking.
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Going ok. Think he is overrated by many though. Has plenty of flaws to iron out yet.
On the contrary, I think hes underrated and his every mistake is magnified.
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Going ok. Think he is overrated by many though. Has plenty of flaws to iron out yet.
On the contrary, I think hes underrated and his every mistake is magnified.
I like this post and I like batch as a player
These flaws you speak of can be ironed out in time most likely and I hope to see him cement a place in our best 22
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Ready to take the next step!
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What a great game especially that first half from Batch. Took some crucial defensive marks under pressure. Hopefully a sign that last year was just second year blues and he's now ready to take that next step.
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What a great game especially that first half from Batch. Took some crucial defensive marks under pressure. Hopefully a sign that last year was just second year blues and he's now ready to take that next step.
Took some really good intercept marks in the first half. Another reason why we shouldn't pay much attention to pre-season form. Petterd might be a decent running half back for us this year but he's not capable of the quality defensive efforts that Batch can produce.
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Very impressed with his work during the game. 'Hands like a steal trap.' :clapping
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What a great game especially that first half from Batch. Took some crucial defensive marks under pressure. Hopefully a sign that last year was just second year blues and he's now ready to take that next step.
Took some really good intercept marks in the first half. Another reason why we shouldn't pay much attention to pre-season form. Petterd might be a decent running half back for us this year but he's not capable of the quality defensive efforts that Batch can produce.
Good call Coach.
Thought Rance was excellent too.
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Batchelor at home
By richmondfc.com.au
5:53pm AEDT Thursday, April 4, 2013
Young Richmond defender Jake Batchelor is starting to feel more comfortable in the pressure-cooker environment of AFL football.
The Tigers’ second selection in the 2010 AFL National Draft made his 31st appearance at the game’s highest level in last Thursday night’s opening round match against Carlton at the MCG, and was one of the team’s best.
He repelled a number of dangerous opposition attacking thrusts through intercept marking, which is a real feature of his game, and was proficient with his disposal out of defence.
Full article:
http://www.richmondfc.com.au/news/2013-04-04/batchelor-at-home
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AUDIO: Batch on RSN (old Sport 927 AM):
Richmond defender, Jake Batchelor, spoke to Chrisso & McGuane this morning, discussing the opening round win over Carlton last Thursday. Richmond are back on the big stage tomorrow night, hosting St Kilda.
http://www.rsn.net.au/news/list/Heard+On+RSN
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Batchelor at home
By richmondfc.com.au
5:53pm AEDT Thursday, April 4, 2013
Young Richmond defender Jake Batchelor is starting to feel more comfortable in the pressure-cooker environment of AFL football.
The Tigers’ second selection in the 2010 AFL National Draft made his 31st appearance at the game’s highest level in last Thursday night’s opening round match against Carlton at the MCG, and was one of the team’s best.
He repelled a number of dangerous opposition attacking thrusts through intercept marking, which is a real feature of his game, and was proficient with his disposal out of defence.
Full article:
http://www.richmondfc.com.au/news/2013-04-04/batchelor-at-home
31 games...some posters should remember that
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What a great game especially that first half from Batch. Took some crucial defensive marks under pressure. Hopefully a sign that last year was just second year blues and he's now ready to take that next step.
Took some really good intercept marks in the first half. Another reason why we shouldn't pay much attention to pre-season form. Petterd might be a decent running half back for us this year but he's not capable of the quality defensive efforts that Batch can produce.
agree totally. His tackling was also very good
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Got beaten early,but i thought broke even towards the end
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Thought the batchelor matchup was wrong all night tbh. Found it strange a 188cm bloke was playing KPD and being horribly exposed in the air whilst we had a 195cm bloke running free (chaps).
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At the game noticed he was really slow to chase Beau's lead. Then again most of our defenders weren't playing tight on their blokes much to my disappointment all night.
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I think Jake is a fine defensive prospect. Rather than see him dropped to the 2's for an extended run I think it is good for the back unit: Rance / Grimes / Morris / Bachelor / Ellis to attempt to gel. I was frustrated by him losing contests at times. However its got my dammed why he is coming up against ruck man sized opposition.
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Maybe they are easing Chaplin into match fitness?
Chaplin should be on a KPF.
He was almost a spare man last night.
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thats his game. as far as i know he has never been the stopper of the opposition no1 forward.
in that pre season interview with the bloke from AFL prospecus he said that he expects chaplin to go close to being no 1 for intercept marks in the league this year
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Well I though Batch was putrid last night. He simply isn't a great spoiler/backman.. He got caught ball watching heaps last night too. He doesn't have that 'opponent first before the ball attitude' that you need as a genuine backman. I think if he is to make it as an AFL player he'll need to move forward, and be that lead up half forward.
In saying that the match ups last night we all wrong IMO. Rance on Nick was ok. Morris on Milne was ok. Would have had Batch on one of there small forwards and had Grimmes on Beau Maister. And Chaplin on Stanley was ok.
Would prefer Dea over Batch at the moment.
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I see batch as a work in progress. He wasn't good this week against the saints, his kicking is only so so, but he has potential. We shall see what the development coaches get out of him.
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If he played on Beau to free up Chaps, why wasn't chaps chopping him out and making Batch look good? 2 other tall forwards (Rance busy on Roo) and we put Batch on Beau with no chop out?
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Just had a look at 2010 and thats not much better IMHO. Took Conca not Heppell which some may argue is 50/50 then took Batchelor when most of the forum watches could see that Parker was a much better player and were calling for Parker weeks out before the draft. Then later in the draft we took Tom Derrickx and afew selections later Hawthorn took Paul Puopolo.
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Just had a look at 2010 and thats not much better IMHO. Took Conca not Heppell which some may argue is 50/50 then took Batchelor when most of the forum watches could see that Parker was a much better player and were calling for Parker weeks out before the draft. Then later in the draft we took Tom Derrickx and afew selections later Hawthorn took Paul Puopolo.
Derrickx was a late pick so was always a long shot.
Batch i think has gone backwards but has takent.
Heppell was always the way to go for mine.
Most on here were wanting him and conca might turn out okay but from where I stand he looks more like another flanker and a very risky pick by FJ, especially how we could've had him at our next pick.
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Just had a look at 2010 and thats not much better IMHO. Took Conca not Heppell which some may argue is 50/50 then took Batchelor when most of the forum watches could see that Parker was a much better player and were calling for Parker weeks out before the draft. Then later in the draft we took Tom Derrickx and afew selections later Hawthorn took Paul Puopolo.
Yah like that makes a whole lotta sense, so we re searching for more ruck stocks, but hey we can't go past this bloke who 5"4 .... :lol...any more crackpot ideas...your too funny
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Nothing wrong with Concs. He goes well.
Was starting to hit his straps before getting injured this year.
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I'm actually a Conca fan and agree with those who think Conca will be a good player.
IMHO he will play 200 games for the club.
As for Batch I think the kid is great and has talent I just think watching Rance and Chappy play kick to kick while he takes on monsters is killing him. The kid is great at ground level and tough he should be the third man up. I reckon Dimma is playing him wrong. Last year we had Griff, Rance and Post for part of it as well Grimes we are a couple short this year and it shows with Batch forced to play on bigger opponents.
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I'm actually a Conca fan and agree with those who think Conca will be a good player.
IMHO he will play 200 games for the club.
As for Batch I think the kid is great and has talent I just think watching Rance and Chappy play kick to kick while he takes on monsters is killing him. The kid is great at ground level and tough he should be the third man up. I reckon Dimma is playing him wrong. Last year we had Griff, Rance and Post for part of it as well Grimes we are a couple short this year and it shows with Batch forced to play on bigger opponents.
Agree, was having a chat with bj today after a round and we were saying the same thing, his strengths are not being utilized. Biggest strengths imo are reading the play and line breaking passes out of defence, biggest weaknesses speed and cant jump. When you look at him physically he was ready from day 1, very mature physique and strong as an oxx, but has bulked up too much now. Have you seen him run or try and jump off the ground this season? looks very heavy. Needs to slim down and work on his speed to give him the best chance of realising his potential as a medium 3rd man up type defender.
Our best defensive lineup imo is: Chaplin main fwd, Rance 2nd fwd, Grimes can play as 3rd tall and 3rd man up(but can be flexible), Batchelor on the medium fwds and 3rd man up, Morris lockdown small defender, bachar small defender. They all offer decent rebound and run. Then you have the flexibility of rotating the likes of Newman, Ellis, Vlas through there when required. Depending on matchups we need to find another tall defender capable of playing to a reasonable level - Astbury? Griffiths? Elton? buggered if I know.
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Batch moves like a robot. Turning circle of the Queen Mary. This is the reason he is playing on bigger guys. Another FJ or his 'list people' wasted picks. Gone backward since his first year.
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Yeah i'm a little worried about Batch. Seems to have stagnated after his first year and looks slow. I think his 'in-between' size, while it affords some flexibility, is actually a hindrance because he's not quite big enough to play on the KPPs but not agile enough to play on the zippy smalls. Still pretty young so he has some time, but i'm not confident he'l amount to much more than a depth player.
Think Concs will be a 200 gamer though. Really like his workman-like attitude and understated manner.
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Who dis thread bout?? :huh
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Who dis thread bout?? :huh
Rupert Murdoch.. ;D
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Just had a look at 2010 and thats not much better IMHO. Took Conca not Heppell which some may argue is 50/50 then took Batchelor when most of the forum watches could see that Parker was a much better player and were calling for Parker weeks out before the draft. Then later in the draft we took Tom Derrickx and afew selections later Hawthorn took Paul Puopolo.
Yah like that makes a whole lotta sense, so we re searching for more ruck stocks, but hey we can't go past this bloke who 5"4 .... :lol...any more crackpot ideas...your too funny
A crackpot idea is selecting a bloke who cant play when you could have picked a bloke whose probably gonna be in Hawthorns Grand Final Side on the last day in September. ;D
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I've moved the Batchelor discussion from the Griffiths thread to here.
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I feel sorry for the kid.
He is always playing on bloke half a foot or more bigger than him.
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Batch played a great game on Darling, beat him hands down
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Was very serviceable tonight I thought also.
TBH I thought he was great at ground level tonight. His second and third efforts were first class. :thumbsup
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Was solid, good to see. Once the mismatches in the first 10mins were sorted I thought he played his role really well.
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Was good but I still worry about his speed...
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was very stuffen good TM and too think a fellow tiger fan was trying to tell me darling wuld kick 6 on him.. :whistle
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Agree with the last few comments, thought he was unlucky to end up on Kennedy a couple of times where Kennedy was bigger taller an stronger. But overall was good and I was happy with some of his ground work and desperation in the last quarter I believe it was
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I think Batch plays better when Dylan grimes plays. His game tonight was solid. Well played batch
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plays better when Dylan grimes plays.
Everyone does!
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:clapping
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Yep was solid, mopped up well, read the play well and intercepted
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Disposal let him down but was okay today.
Will need to do a job on Aaron Black next week.
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Did he win the medal?
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Solid. Poor Batch is always playing 2-5 inches short of his opponents but he made light work of Stanley in the first quarter and took some great intercept marks.
Terrible shot at goal in the first half lol
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Did he win the medal?
:lol
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Disposal let him down but was okay today.
Will need to do a job on Aaron Black next week.
Here in lies his problem, disposal, I hope he can improve.. :-\...With the way Arnott played Batch could lose his spot, provided Arnott keeps going, we won't be able to afford sloppy disposal out of the backline come finals.
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Batchelor's first quarter was poor but he worked his way into the game which he deserves credit. That spot is very much up for grabs
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Who is this Nick Batchelor that Deerrwayne Russell continually refers to ?
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Disposal let him down but was okay today.
Will need to do a job on Aaron Black next week.
Here in lies his problem, disposal, I hope he can improve.. :-\...With the way Arnott played Batch could lose his spot, provided Arnott keeps going, we won't be able to afford sloppy disposal out of the backline come finals.
Ahhhhh it all makes sense now, Dimma has left Arnot in the burgers so long to develop him as the League's first ever 179cm KP backman! look forward to seeing him line up on Drew this week, could be a master stroke :shh :shh :shh
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Disposal let him down but was okay today.
Will need to do a job on Aaron Black next week.
Here in lies his problem, disposal, I hope he can improve.. :-\...With the way Arnott played Batch could lose his spot, provided Arnott keeps going, we won't be able to afford sloppy disposal out of the backline come finals.
Ahhhhh it all makes sense now, Dimma has left Arnot in the burgers so long to develop him as the League's first ever 179cm KP backman! look forward to seeing him line up on Drew this week, could be a master stroke :shh :shh :shh
Not my point TFT..stop being silly.
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Disposal let him down but was okay today.
Will need to do a job on Aaron Black next week.
Here in lies his problem, disposal, I hope he can improve.. :-\...With the way Arnott played Batch could lose his spot, provided Arnott keeps going, we won't be able to afford sloppy disposal out of the backline come finals.
Ahhhhh it all makes sense now, Dimma has left Arnot in the burgers so long to develop him as the League's first ever 179cm KP backman! look forward to seeing him line up on Drew this week, could be a master stroke :shh :shh :shh
Not my point TFT..stop being silly.
:lol :lol :lol Just keeping you on your toes mate ;) ;D
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Jake Batchelor joined Chrisso & McGuane today, as the Tigers continue their march towards the finals, with a 64-point win over the Saints at the MCG on Sunday. They'll be looking for a fifth straight win this weekend, when they take on North Melbourne ...
http://www.rsn.net.au/audioplayer/1372723221.mp3
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Consistency the key for Batchelor
By richmondfc.com.au
Tuesday, July 2, 2013
Jake's challenge, he admits, is to work on consistency of performance.
“I’ve missed out through depth, pretty much. I’ve been pushed out a bit,” he said.
“For me a big thing is consistency. It’s about getting my body right every single week and playing consistent team football.”
Read more at: http://www.richmondfc.com.au/news/2013-07-02/consistency-the-key-for-batchelor
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Jake has saved our chops several times covering for an injured defender or whatever. Required player.
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Bachelor best 22
Bachelor grimes Chaplin
Morris rance houli
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Can see him spending most of his career in and out of the team depending on injuries and match-ups. Not really a bad thing to have.
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Can see him spending most of his career in and out of the team depending on injuries and match-ups. Not really a bad thing to have.
Exactly what you want out of a second round draft pick :thumbsup
Fo Fu Saaaaa
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Did not chase hard enough then..... :banghead
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Another Batch turnover.......goal!
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Another poo kick.....Batch pathetic
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Shoot the prick
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Shoot the prick
Honestly though mate.....WTF with him today??
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Worst on ground
Won the McGuane-Firritto Trophy
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D grade player who should be put up for trade at years end before everyone works out hes a very average player.
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I've been a fan, was terrible today. Needs to lose size and become more mobile. Have tried to play him as a 3rd tall but not tall enough and cant jump, give up on it.
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Should be 4th back he is short
Griff or astbury or Elton should be in grimed third shot
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Looked a good prospect playing off a back stuff keeping half forwards quiet and pushing up onto a wing
Looks woeful playing 3rd tall
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Looked a good prospect playing off a back stuff keeping half forwards quiet and pushing up onto a wing
Looks woeful playing 3rd tall
Says a lot about the rest of the derps on the list if we're forced to play him there.
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SHOULD BE LEFT BACK.......In the change room
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As others have said he has been played as a 3rd Tall-back when he isn't up to it against quality Talls. Grimes will take that role if he ever gets on the park.
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Should be 4th back he is short
Griff or astbury or Elton should be in grimed third shot
Spot on...........188cm is not tall enough to play that role. HBF is his position reading the play floating across contests.
North played Black when he was not ready but look at him go............we should be doing the same with Elton or Griffiths.
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Should be 4th back he is short
Griff or astbury or Elton should be in grimed third shot
Spot on...........188cm is not tall enough to play that role. HBF is his position reading the play floating across contests.
North played Black when he was not ready but look at him go............we should be doing the same with Elton or Griffiths.
:clapping :clapping :clapping
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said this Weeks ago be is no good to slow and a hack
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has no confidence and its really showing
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D grade player who should be put up for trade at years end before everyone works out hes a very average player.
x2
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I've been a fan, was terrible today. Needs to lose size and become more mobile. Have tried to play him as a 3rd tall but not tall enough and cant jump, give up on it.
Agree 100%.
We've done alot right with our youngsters and development, but bugger me we have crucified some players trying to turn them into players they are not.
Batchelor isn't a key backman. He has a decent long left shoe on him. For mine is a bit of a Joel Bowden mould. Don't think he should be going around playing on Key Forwards. Put him on medium forwards or play him loose. He's a good mark. He's as good as Lachie Hansen who destroyed us today.
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Should be 4th back he is short
Shouldn't be in the bloody team at all for stuff's sake. Been saying it for 12 months and have had few supporters but gee it's hard to argue against after today. He's not bloody good enough, end of story. Too soft, too many mistakes, not tall enough, not short enough, not skillful enough.
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bachelor is too slow to be an attacking defender too short to bet a key back and too stupid go be anything else. delist.. trade pee him off
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Shocking today
Fortunately for him he wasn't alone
But shocking, can't see him on the plane next week
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Don't think he should be going around playing on Key Forwards. Put him on medium forwards or play him loose.
Play him at Coburg and not in the seniors ever again.
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Should be 4th back he is short
Shouldn't be in the bloody team at all for stuff's sake. Been saying it for 12 months and have had few supporters but gee it's hard to argue against after today. He's not bloody good enough, end of story. Too soft, too many mistakes, not tall enough, not short enough, not skillful enough.
can i add not quick enough. for me the real issues are height pace and just how fumbly he is.
hes a good sized height wise and size wise medium defender. as amedium though he has neither the height or size to play on the kpps.
as a medium he lacks touch pace and the kicking skills to play as either a running defender or a defensive player on smalls.his fumbles do my head in.thiose fumbles or the lack of polish or one touch is a problem that is endemic thru the team.
i sometimes wonder how he would go as a big bodied mid. would need to work on a few areas to do that.
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Losing faith in Jake.
Didn't have second year blues but it seems he has third year blues.
Bastinac's goal when he punched meekly rather than marking in the first quarter shows how low his confidence is atm and based on his first two years how much of a whole it leaves us with defensively.
I still expect he will make it as I believe he can play but he needs to get back to instinctive basics if that sounds correct rather than worrying he is about to make a mistake and leaving himself in a half committed way at the contest.
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he wont make it
hurry up grimes get fit
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he wont make it
hurry up grimes get fit
we should hurry up and trade Batchelor out for whatever we can get because he wont be worth anything in about 12 months time.
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21: Batchelor (30), Dea (21), Griffiths (18 ), Grimes (17), Helbig (15), Martin (63)
20: Conca (35), Elton (1)
19: Arnot (-), Ellis (21), O'Hanlon (8 ), Vlastuin (-), McIntosh (-), McDonough (-), Darrou# (-), Verrier# (-)
18: McBean (-), Williams# (-), Simon# (-)
I would be willing to give this group more time.
It is the other players on the list that should first come under the blowtorch
Mattdeaa and bachelor need time..
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Love a good meltdown. Love how a kid who was admirable in his first season, picking up some decent scalps is now a soft dud at the age of 20 odd. Yeah let's bring in Ricky Pettered yiiiieeewwwwww
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Jake Batchelor in focus
richmondfc.com.au
October 28, 2013
Tim Clarke says: From a VFL point of view, he never played as well at that level as he did in the AFL.
We know Jake can play at senior level . . . he’s a good player. But he’s just got to get his ground-level work right and probably also get a little bit more involvement with the ball.”
Read more and the full article at: http://www.richmondfc.com.au/news/2013-10-28/jake-batchelor-in-focus
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I've really enjoyed Tim Clarke's forthright views on our reserves grade players. At first I wasn't sure but now can see he is clearly trying to get more from our talented younger players who don't seem to be applying themselves and making the most of their talent.
Batchelor is a classic young player who may become an unfulfilled talent if he doesn't spring into action in 2014.
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I've really enjoyed Tim Clarke's forthright views on our reserves grade players. At first I wasn't sure but now can see he is clearly trying to get more from our talented younger players who don't seem to be applying themselves and making the most of their talent.
Batchelor is a classic young player who may become an unfulfilled talent if he doesn't spring into action in 2014.
I agree re: Batchelor :thumbsup it wasn't long ago that he was my favorite young bloke on the list. Gave him the benefit of the doubt last year but this year it was a bit harder to do so. To me comes across as a player who will never be the best athlete or a star, but a natural footy player, a solid contributor and when fit in the first 21 picked every week. I can't remember if it was an article or a video on roar vision with him this year where he acknowledged he had let himself down but was really keen to work hard and find his spot again.
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Would be great for the club if he could show his impressive early form wasn't merely a fluke. If not then it's trade/delist this time next year I'm afraid. No more hanging around forever waiting for blokes to come good.
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My Mail is he is the next James Hird (http://i1264.photobucket.com/albums/jj489/dwwaino/baby.gif)
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Not heard much about Jake over the preseason. Wanted to see what people think of him and where he is at in terms of his career?
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Trade bait.
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Would like him to force petterd out. Petterd shows hunger but his kicking is still poo
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Batch had an odd kicking style too, would think it fair to say neither has a textbook action that would be considered reliable under pressure.
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too slow
not up with the modern game, would have been a great player in the 80s
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No where near it, way to slow and not on the money at all.
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Would like him to force petterd out. Petterd shows hunger but his kicking is still pooe
reckon petterd is the better player.
like all players who are good enough to get on a list if played often enough your likely to get the odd decent game out of em.
facts are and batchelor is one of them if you have too many deficiencies you struggle for too much of the time.
hes 188cm/88kg defender. are people really going to tell me that he has the athletic ability cleanness and size and height to play on talls or the pace and agility to play on smalls.
finding a match up for him in todays game is the issue here. personally i like the idea of vlastuin, dea or mcintosh hopefully to do the jobs he should be doing.i also think grimes a better option though i consider him more of a tall.
i think of all the weaknesses its the fumbles that pee me off the most with him though.
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i think of all the weaknesses its the fumbles that pee me off the most with him though.
Yep this and his lack of speed. Ufortunate, his first season showed so much promise but he simply hasn't developed at all and we now have better options.
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i think of all the weaknesses its the fumbles that pee me off the most with him though.
Yep this and his lack of speed. Ufortunate, his first season showed so much promise but he simply hasn't developed at all and we now have better options.
na nothing to do with development. if any player doesnt have enough tools to survive they wont. too many weaknesses and no amount of development will fix em.
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Would like him to force petterd out. Petterd shows hunger but his kicking is still pooe
reckon petterd is the better player.
like all players who are good enough to get on a list if played often enough your likely to get the odd decent game out of em.
facts are and batchelor is one of them if you have too many deficiencies you struggle for too much of the time.
hes 188cm/88kg defender. are people really going to tell me that he has the athletic ability cleanness and size and height to play on talls or the pace and agility to play on smalls.
finding a match up for him in todays game is the issue here. personally i like the idea of vlastuin, dea or mcintosh hopefully to do the jobs he should be doing.i also think grimes a better option though i consider him more of a tall.
i think of all the weaknesses its the fumbles that pee me off the most with him though.
Batchelor kicks the football better than Pettard
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na nothing to do with development. if any player doesnt have enough tools to survive they wont. too many weaknesses and no amount of development will fix em.
Don't think he's been the same since he injured his hip.
Batchelor kicks the football better than Pettard
Better style perhaps. Prone to more errors.
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Batchelor kicks the football better than Pettard
Better style perhaps. Prone to more errors.
I don't think I've seen Pettard actually hit a target.
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Travelling very ordinary
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Bit of a shame houli was never pushed higher up to accommodate giving Bach a proper shot
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Batchelor kicks the football better than Pettard
Better style perhaps. Prone to more errors.
I don't think I've seen Pettard actually hit a target.
Better stop watching from the bar then.
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He is struggling
Not fit
Having a shave would be a good idea as well
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yeah for sure. shaving his head will improve him as well.
get a back, sack, and crack, and he will become a superstar
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I know I was struggling to get a kick so I shaved my balls and it just seemed to lift my spirits and sharpen my focus.
Getting the gooch waxed just topped me off so good suggestion :thumbsup
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:lol :lol :lol
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I know I was struggling to get a kick so I shaved my balls and it just seemed to lift my spirits and sharpen my focus.
Getting the gooch waxed just topped me off so good suggestion :thumbsup
:lol :rollin :lol
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;D
Would like to see Batch get another shot at some point. Find it interesting that they put him on the resting ruckman at times. Trying to cough up goals Damien or is there another reason behind it?? Play him as HB, let Chaplin take a tall. Still think he may have something to offer but he really hasn't come on since his first season. Is a better kick than Picky Rettard but so is my nan. And she's dead btw.
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Bit of a shame houli was never pushed higher up to accommodate giving Bach a proper shot
these pearls of wisdom are just golden keep em coming judge. :lol
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;D
Would like to see Batch get another shot at some point. Find it interesting that they put him on the resting ruckman at times. Trying to cough up goals Damien or is there another reason behind it?? Play him as HB, let Chaplin take a tall. Still think he may have something to offer but he really hasn't come on since his first season. Is a better kick than Picky Rettard but so is my nan. And she's dead btw.
Agree coach. Batch was physically mature and ready to go from day dot, I think the focus should have been on him slimming down and working on his speed/agility rather than trying to tank him up further to play on talls. Has made him too slow for footy now.
btw I think he's a good penetrating kick, has no problem hitting 50 metre bullet passes - just makes some really dumb decisions and unforced errors which stood out
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:lol :lol :lol
I agree :lol
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Batch off to the VFL tribunal. He was reported in the last few mins of the Footscray game.
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should have had that shave....
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We are up schit creek if we go back to this bloke.
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:facepalm
We are up schit creek if we go back to this bloke.
Yeah much better suited playing grigg houli types instead of this kid
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With the backward step we've taken this year in transitioning ball from defense, I'm surprised he hasn't come in for either Chaplin or grimes , both struggling big time and the root of our problems back their.
Batchelor is an excellent intercept mark and generally uses the ball with surgical precision, sounds like he owned the game at vfl last week with the ball on the end of a string and deserves a run. Right now we re poorer for not having him in the side
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Batchelor is an excellent intercept mark and generally uses the ball with surgical precision, sounds like he owned the game at vfl last week with the ball on the end of a string and deserves a run. Right now we re poorer for not having him in the side
I actually like your non stop positive attitude ....
However you are overly positive about a lot more than 22 players and express we miss them or they should be in the side.
Can you please give me your best 22 using the full list.
This means hard bojangles decisions will need to be made on a lot of blokes, so no whoa about everyone, and best 22 your mail, and should be in the side just quietly about 40 blokes.
Pick your 22 and stick to it.
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Batchelor is an excellent intercept mark and generally uses the ball with surgical precision
Right now we re poorer for not having him in the side
You are talking about a player that does not exist.
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will be put up for trade at the end of the year. we will get very little in return.
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Very disappointing today.
Looks slow, very slow. Went missing far to often and turned to ball over way to much for an AFL listed player. I to cant see him surviving the season.
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I also thought Batch was ordinary at best
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will be put up for trade at the end of the year. we will get very little in return.
delisted
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To paraphrase what I wrote earlier - How did a kid so full of potential suddenly turn into Mitch Farmer mk.II? Richmond - the home of arrested development.
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What I seen if him pre season
I don't think he takes footy seriously
Doesn't work hard enough and is not fit enough for an elite footballer
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What I seen if him pre season
I don't think he takes footy seriously
Doesn't work hard enough and is not fit enough for an elite footballer
Him & three-quarters of the list.
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Been saying it for two years, he is a nothing player.
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will be put up for trade at the end of the year. we will get very little in return.
delisted
I think so too. Been a massive disappointment after a bright start.
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By bus
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;D
Would like to see Batch get another shot at some point. Find it interesting that they put him on the resting ruckman at times. Trying to cough up goals Damien or is there another reason behind it?? Play him as HB, let Chaplin take a tall. Still think he may have something to offer but he really hasn't come on since his first season. Is a better kick than Picky Rettard but so is my nan. And she's dead btw.
Agree coach. Batch was physically mature and ready to go from day dot, I think the focus should have been on him slimming down and working on his speed/agility rather than trying to tank him up further to play on talls. Has made him too slow for footy now.
btw I think he's a good penetrating kick, has no problem hitting 50 metre bullet passes - just makes some really dumb decisions and unforced errors which stood out
hmm. he was drafted at 188cm / 78kg - 80kg depending on where you got your stats.
today hes 188cm/ 88kg and exactly where he should be give or take a kg.
he is no goliath he is at ideal weight and he has not massively bulked up costing agility and speed. he was always slow regardless of his weight. if we took size and weight off him he would be too small to play at the level.
yes he can kick. it probably was the only thing jackson looked for when drafting him. i know what critics of his selectiion copped from all and sundry was, but he can kick!!!!!!
slow fumbling players with the turning circle of a mac truck are always going to struggle at afl level no matter how well they can kick. especially ones undersized for the role they have to play. bl he hasnt got enough physical atrributes to play tall or small at afl and he certainly lacks in critical skill areas.
this bloke could string the rest of the season together and id would still want him out the door. like so many before he is your proverbial glass half full and he will revert to mediocrity. to many weaknesses to sustain a thing at this level.
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By bus
Saw him walking the other day! Must Have lost his metcard!
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By bus
Saw him walking the other day! Must Have lost his metcard!
Walking to bus stop.
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Pea heart.
Champions find a way. Even hungry battlers do.
What happened to the qualities of resolve and determination to succeed?
These kids are one big malaise drafted from the teet of plenty.
Soft caulks
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;D
Would like to see Batch get another shot at some point. Find it interesting that they put him on the resting ruckman at times. Trying to cough up goals Damien or is there another reason behind it?? Play him as HB, let Chaplin take a tall. Still think he may have something to offer but he really hasn't come on since his first season. Is a better kick than Picky Rettard but so is my nan. And she's dead btw.
Agree coach. Batch was physically mature and ready to go from day dot, I think the focus should have been on him slimming down and working on his speed/agility rather than trying to tank him up further to play on talls. Has made him too slow for footy now.
btw I think he's a good penetrating kick, has no problem hitting 50 metre bullet passes - just makes some really dumb decisions and unforced errors which stood out
hmm. he was drafted at 188cm / 78kg - 80kg depending on where you got your stats.
today hes 188cm/ 88kg and exactly where he should be give or take a kg.
he is no goliath he is at ideal weight and he has not massively bulked up costing agility and speed. he was always slow regardless of his weight. if we took size and weight off him he would be too small to play at the level.
yes he can kick. it probably was the only thing jackson looked for when drafting him. i know what critics of his selectiion copped from all and sundry was, but he can kick!!!!!!
slow fumbling players with the turning circle of a mac truck are always going to struggle at afl level no matter how well they can kick. especially ones undersized for the role they have to play. bl he hasnt got enough physical atrributes to play tall or small at afl and he certainly lacks in critical skill areas.
this bloke could string the rest of the season together and id would still want him out the door. like so many before he is your proverbial glass half full and he will revert to mediocrity. to many weaknesses to sustain a thing at this level.
Disagree regarding weight, his bodyshape is a naturally "heavy set" build if that makes sense. In his first season I saw him physically manhandle Dayne Swan right in front of me, his strength is prodigious and unfortunately those 10 extra kegs have turned him into a blimp. At 78kegs he looked(and played) a lot bigger than say Shedwards does at 80. Anyhow, moot point, hes cooked
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By bus
Saw him walking the other day! Must Have lost his metcard!
You mean his myki. :lol :rollin :lol
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By bus
Saw him walking the other day! Must Have lost his metcard!
You mean his myki. :lol :rollin :lol
Oops!
Thanks. Too much ouzo! :shh
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if they dont rate in the VFL they wont rate in the AFL ;D
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This guy would be odds on to get delisted at years end. Can't believe the well is that empty that he's getting a game.
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Form at Coburg has been really average :-\
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Better player than Pettard. Leave him in the side to get some confidence
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Better player than Pettard.
No he's not.
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don't know whether its the individual and questionable WORK ethic (something Ive heard whispers about) or whether its the direction the coaching staff set him on to become an undersized KPD, either way his goose is cooked. Shame I rated him and felt he could've been a reasonable long term player.
Have always said, with his build type he needs to slim down and focus on things like pilates, yoga to increase agility, speed and flexibity. He has the turning circle of a mack track and couldn't jump over a jam tin, just looks so heavy
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I still reckon hes capable in running Half back role. Shouldnt be key position.
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Better player than Pettard.
No he's not.
Yes he is and if you don't agree your just accepting mediocrity
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Better player than Pettard.
No he's not.
Yes he is and if you don't agree your just accepting mediocrity
No. They're both mediocre but Batch is worse.
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Better player than Pettard.
No he's not.
Yes he is and if you don't agree your just accepting mediocrity
No. They're both mediocre but Batch is worse.
How so?
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Better player than Pettard.
No he's not.
Yes he is and if you don't agree your just accepting mediocrity
No. They're both mediocre but Batch is worse.
How so?
I tend to agree with MM. Petterd has shown he can dominate at VFL level. Last week he played one half and had 20 possessions. I don't think Batch has ever dominated any game.
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Better player than Pettard.
No he's not.
Yes he is and if you don't agree your just accepting mediocrity
No. They're both mediocre but Batch is worse.
How so?
I tend to agree with MM. Petterd has shown he can dominate at VFL level. Last week he played one half and had 20 possessions. I don't think Batch has ever dominated any game.
Same player except Pettard has more athleticism and maybe work ethic (not sure if Batch is just that slow or lazy)
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Batchelor is a way better kick than Riccki
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that's debatable
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that's debatable
batch hits targets
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Batch might hit targets,but unfortunately so do his opponents...namely the target between the big sticks
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Batch might hit targets,but unfortunately so do his opponents...namely the target between the bick sticks
hes not a key defender
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no..but a defender he is
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that's debatable
batch hits targets
sometimes....
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no..but a defender he is
should be a running Hbf that's all. Could be good on the wing to hitting forwards on the chest
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no..but a defender he is
should be a running Hbf that's all. Could be good on the wing to hitting forwards on the chest
Unfortunately by that time the balls been chipped sideways and back ways and all the opposition is camping in our forward 50
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no..but a defender he is
should be a running Hbf that's all. Could be good on the wing to hitting forwards on the chest
Shanks it to much
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Well that went well.
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Dimma destroyed him.
Had a good first year and started of 2012 well. Had a great game against the Pies in round 2 that year and was looking great. Could take an overhead mark, read the play and was tough with ground level skills also. Only question mark was his kicking.
Post that St Kilda game at the dome in 2012 he has gone downhill. Had a terrible game against Freo the following week and then put another stinker the following week against GWS and he has never looked back. :help
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Player Club Kicks Handballs Disposals Marks Hit-outs Frees For Frees Agst Tackles Goals Behinds AFL Fantasy
Jake Batchelor RICH 5 4 9 4 0 0 1 1 0 0 36
9 possies, gee whiz. They really have to play him elsewhere to see if he can do something better.
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Played well when we were on top and poo when we weren't. Hardly Robinson Crusoe on that score.
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thought he actually did his job, kept black out of it
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thought he actually did his job, kept black out of it
For a while I thought he did too TM but his limitations are obvious and have been for a few years now.
Only we could turn rough diamonds into bedazzler jewels. :facepalm
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Delist.
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Should be given more than one game before dismissed
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When your midfield breaks down the defenders look like they are playing crap & slow. l would have Batchelor in my side anyday
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Player Club Kicks Handballs Disposals Marks Hit-outs Frees For Frees Agst Tackles Goals Behinds AFL Fantasy
Jake Batchelor RICH 5 4 9 4 0 0 1 1 0 0 36
9 possies, gee whiz. They really have to play him elsewhere to see if he can do something better.
Scott Thompson only got 6, maybe they should delist him
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I'm a fan of Batchelor.
More than happy to have him on our list and in our side. Think we've made a mistake on him trying to mould him into a KP Defender. Think he would be our Suckling, Mackie type defender. Even a loose man. Needs to improve skills but think he's good enough in the air to hold his own and has decent pace and a long left shoe.
Persist for mine.
Batchelor > Chaplin
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Batchelor seeks broader role
richmondfc.com.au
June 20, 2014
“I’ve been speaking to ‘Dimma’ (coach Damien Hardwick) about the ability to play on ‘talls’ and ‘smalls’. I’ve got more confidence playing on talls, so it’s just (a matter of) working on that,” Batchelor said.
“It’s more off-field stuff as well – the pilates and yoga – just to get my body right to be able to play on the smaller-type forwards.”
Read more at: http://www.richmondfc.com.au/news/2014-06-20/batchelor-seeks-broader-role-
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Batchelor seeks broader role
richmondfc.com.au
June 20, 2014
“I’ve been speaking to ‘Dimma’ (coach Damien Hardwick) about the ability to play on ‘talls’ and ‘smalls’. I’ve got more confidence playing on talls, so it’s just (a matter of) working on that,” Batchelor said.
“It’s more off-field stuff as well – the pilates and yoga – just to get my body right to be able to play on the smaller-type forwards.”
Read more at: http://www.richmondfc.com.au/news/2014-06-20/batchelor-seeks-broader-role-
Listen to uncle TM he knows what he's on about. Been spruiking that he should focus on pilates and yoga for yrs :shh
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Anyone else feel a little sick when Parker took that mark with Batchelor trailing behind the contest and falling over? If ever there was a picture that could say a thousand words about our recruiting.....
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Thought he held his own and kept his opponents in check last night. Yes he did fall over but how good was that intercept mark :clapping
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IMHO I thought he was ok last night. Serviceable game. Tempo of the game dictated that and helped him. Batch struggles when the tempo of the game is much quicker.
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Batchelor played a good roll last night. Persist with him
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Will be dropped
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Batchelor shows his strength
richmondfc.com.au
July 24, 2014
A strong, physical presence has been a significant factor in enabling young defender Jake Batchelor to cement a spot in Richmond’s senior side over the past few weeks, according to his teammate Brett Deledio.
“He [Batchelor] had his troubles early in the season, but his physicality’s probably the thing that got him into the side, and kept him in the side,” Deledio said.
“He’s not having huge possession games, but his physicality in his shutdown jobs, that he’s been doing for us off half-back, has been really impressive.
Read more at: http://www.richmondfc.com.au/news/2014-07-24/batchelor-shows-his-strength
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I've been impressed with Batch since his return. Has been solid.
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can be part of long term strong back six - IMO
got some good attributes and i imagination the like of Rance and Morris like playing with him
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can be part of long term strong back six - IMO
got some good attributes and i imagination the like of Rance and Morris like playing with him
I actually agree with this. I dont know why a lot of fans bag him. Think he is good overhead has a good kick on him and more than adequately plays his role in the back 6.
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I have always thought that if jake is given a specific role he can deliver the goods.Once hes out of his comfort zone he tends to flounder I think
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Bachelor - Astbury - Grimes
Morris - Rance - Dea/McDonuts
lack run and skill unfortunately but the middle and forward parts of the group would benefit from having martin, deledio, vlastuin, Lennon at the contest rather than behind the ball.
and houli removed
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judge no chaplin?..his form since about round 6 has been excellent
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rance > chaplin
astbury > chaplin
grimes > chaplin
mcbean > chaplin
darrou > chaplin
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But judge Ed mcbean and darrou have not played one senior game between them
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good point
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dud delist.
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He is being shopped around for a possible trade
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rance > chaplin
astbury > chaplin
grimes > chaplin
mcbean > chaplin
darrou > chaplin
oh dear.
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Been very poorly coached too.
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Playing well tonite........how's the tackle on Nic Nat
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Thought batch was great tonight.
And boy has chaplin turned his season round
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Playing well tonite........how's the tackle on Nic Nat
Agree. Batch's tackling was a feature of his game last night.
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dud delist.
you know nothing about football if you reckon this player is a dud. l rate him highly to develop into a solid backman like Rance
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Yeah but oracle says rance is rubbsih
And astbury.
:(
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Is taking his chances, has definitely added something to the side since he came in - good on him, I was starting to think he was gawn
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He was carrying a injury early pre-season. l don't think Clark is the man to carry on coaching the other group.
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Hard but gee he lacks pace and he gave up the chase last night, really let the Bombers do as they please down back!!
Could cost us in the coming weeks, opposition clubs will expose him.
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Plays his role very well and will play many games for us if this continues.
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Plays his role very well and will play many games for us if this continues.
I thought he was pretty average to be honest.
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Love the way he crunches opponents in tackles, really punishes them. :clapping
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Love the way he crunches opponents in tackles, really punishes them. :clapping
Yes he plays his part in the side ;D
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Love the way he crunches opponents in tackles, really punishes them. :clapping
The look on Dell'Ollo face on the Southern Stand boundary after getting it twice from Batch was priceless. Crunched him hard. :thumbsup
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Plays his role very well and will play many games for us if this continues.
I thought he was pretty average to be honest.
x2
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I would like to see Batch get more ball.However the one thing he brings to the team and certainly to the backline is grunt,i reckon he and morro are like human wrecking balls down back
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Not his fault but was giving away heaps of height to Hurley in the last, yet still did an OK job.
Certainly a keeper.
My only fault not on him but the club is we have too many left footers off half back who are pretty weak on their right or have no right at all, Batch, Dea, Newman, Houli. Time and time again overuse of handball gets us caged in because we aren't smart and give the ball to a bloke who is a left footer and can't use his right.
Houli got away with a ripper in the third handballing deliberately out Olympic Stand side in the third.
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Love the way he crunches opponents in tackles, really punishes them. :clapping
The look on Dell'Ollo face on the Southern Stand boundary after getting it twice from Batch was priceless. Crunched him hard. :thumbsup
dellolo or whatever his name is has that smug Essendon head on him that you just wanna smash
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Love the way he crunches opponents in tackles, really punishes them. :clapping
The look on Dell'Ollo face on the Southern Stand boundary after getting it twice from Batch was priceless. Crunched him hard. :thumbsup
dellolo or whatever his name is has that smug Essendon head on him that you just wanna smash
Melksham is one of those in the same boat and that haircut. You just want to grab a hammer and start hitting indiscrimanantely at it. Would make genuine improvement without the plastic surgery pricetag. ;D
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Love the way he crunches opponents in tackles, really punishes them. :clapping
The look on Dell'Ollo face on the Southern Stand boundary after getting it twice from Batch was priceless. Crunched him hard. :thumbsup
dellolo or whatever his name is has that smug Essendon head on him that you just wanna smash
Melksham is one of those in the same boat and that haircut. You just want to grab a hammer and start hitting indiscrimanantely at it. Would make genuine improvement without the plastic surgery pricetag. ;D
They're got more heads you'd just love to punch than any other team. Starting with Melksham, Hocking and Carlisle.
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Batch just does all the little things right and doesn't get beaten that often.
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dellolo or whatever his name is has that smug Essendon head on him that you just wanna smash
Melksham is one of those in the same boat and that haircut. You just want to grab a hammer and start hitting indiscrimanantely at it. Would make genuine improvement without the plastic surgery pricetag. ;D
They're got more heads you'd just love to punch than any other team. Starting with Melksham, Hocking and Carlisle.
Yes, yes and yes! :clapping
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Bach :bow
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Not his fault but was giving away heaps of height to Hurley in the last, yet still did an OK job.
Certainly a keeper.
My only fault not on him but the club is we have too many left footers off half back who are pretty weak on their right or have no right at all, Batch, Dea, Newman, Houli. Time and time again overuse of handball gets us caged in because we aren't smart and give the ball to a bloke who is a left footer and can't use his right.
Houli got away with a ripper in the third handballing deliberately out Olympic Stand side in the third.
Is a major problem of the left footers being boxed in & unable to kick.
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Don't under estimate the hard edge he's brought to our backline since he came into the side. Has given us some balance
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Is it just me or his pasty complexion or does he look fat?
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Was not surprised he was subbed
Didn't have a good night. When he had to, he at times just didn't run hard enough
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Is it just me or his pasty complexion or does he look fat?
It's that Keanu Reeves hair circa Bill and Ted's Bogus Journey that makes him look pudgy.
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Is it just me or his pasty complexion or does he look fat?
Heavyset build
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Is it just me or his pasty complexion or does he look fat?
It's always just you ;D
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After being overlooked for the first half of the year, Batch has played every game since round 12 and plays his 50th on Sunday.
Career Stats:
http://finalsiren.com/PlayerStats.asp?PlayerID=2061
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Should read:
"After being overlooked for the first half of the year, Batch has played every game since round 12 and if selected will play his 50th on Sunday.
Based on his game last week wouldn't be at all surprised if he gets dropped ;D
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very ordinary player with massive limiitations. another who the ferals love because he brings a hard edge. but hey we have so few with a hard edge i can understand why those who have it are put on pedestals.
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Yep he's pretty ordinary tbh.
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Plenty to go before him. Good depth for now IMO
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Can play imo, good kick and reads the play well, just needs to play to strengths and work on major weakness which is mobility, but gotta say have seen an improvement in his speed and agility this season. Would persevere with.
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As a club we give away a lot of dumb free kicks, and Batch is right up there for that.
Hard at it player but just try's to hard at times and get clumsy.
Congrats on 50 games.
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Batch is just ok. I think we need to do better.
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Haven't watched the reply as yet but watching the game live, I was more than happy with his game. He gut running and creating was outstanding. Protects his team mates also :thumbsup
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Haven't watched the reply as yet but watching the game live, I was more than happy with his game. He gut running and creating was outstanding. Protects his team mates also :thumbsup
I agree. Watched him continually running to space to create options even though he was overlooked. Best game I've seen him play.
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Next up is Jake Batchelor.
Batch played 13 games in his 4th year of AFL to take his career tally to 52. After being overlooked for the first half of the year, Jake was brought back into the seniors in round 12 vs North (his first seniors game in 11 months) and maintained his spot for the rest of the season (9 wins/4 losses). His best return was 22 disposals against St Kilda in round 22 with a career high 17 kicks.
Matches Kicks Hballs Disp. Marks Tackles G.B 1st poss. Clear. In50 R50 1%ers
2011 16 7.8 4.8 12.6 3.3 3.1 0.4 0.2 0.4 1.4 2.4 4.2
2012 14 8.6 6.7 15.4 5.0 2.0 0.1 0.5 1.1 2.9 3.7
2013 9 8.3 3.2 11.6 4.4 1.9 0.1 0.0 1.5 2.2 5.2
2014 13 6.2 3.5 9.6 2.9 2.1 3.0 0.1 0.5 1.3 2.5
http://finalsiren.com/PlayerStats.asp?PlayerID=2061&SeasonID=ALL
http://www.pro-stats.com.au/psw/web/player_profile?pid=2011030
Should we keep or trade Batch?
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Neah; plays the man not the ball, is too slow, is not skilled enough, turns the ball over, apart from some good man on man stuff I don't rate him and i don't think he is the way forward.
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Yeah.
Is not overly quick, but reads the play well and therefore gets to the contest, is hard at the ball and can play short or tall (ish).
Keep.
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Yah.
About three times less soft than bacha
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Neah; plays the man not the ball, is too slow, is not skilled enough, turns the ball over, apart from some good man on man stuff I don't rate him and i don't think he is the way forward.
x 2
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Dunno
Same as Dea I think one more year and that's it if they don't lift to the next level
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Will keep if not traded
Saw some improvement as he was given a run of games. One of our better tacklers which just shows how poor we are in that area
Deserves some credit for his intercept in the last 30 odd seconds of the Swans game where he copped one in the snout (no free BTW)... I know the captain gave the credit in his post match to Newman but it was Batch who won that contest (despite Newman's best efforts to stuff it up ;D), perfect decision and offload to Vlastuin... it's a pity people at the minute only remember how terrible he was in the Elim final ;D
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Will keep if not traded
Saw some improvement as he was given a run of games. One of our better tacklers which just shows how poor we are in that area
Deserves some credit for his intercept in the last 30 odd seconds of the Swans game where he copped one in the snout (no free BTW)... I know the captain gave the credit in his post match to Newman but it was Batch who won that contest (despite Newman's best efforts to stuff it up ;D), perfect decision and offload to Vlastuin... it's a pity people at the minute only remember how terrible he was in the Elim final ;D
Fair post. Agree one of the few who makes his tackles stick. If not traded believe has to improve next season otherwise should be delisted
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Yes he's a player
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Deserves some credit for his intercept in the last 30 odd seconds of the Swans game where he copped one in the snout (no free BTW)... I know the captain gave the credit in his post match to Newman but it was Batch who won that contest (despite Newman's best efforts to stuff it up ;D), perfect decision and offload to Vlastuin... it's a pity people at the minute only remember how terrible he was in the Elim final ;D
Good call WP.
Great composure in a massive game at a do or die moment. Huge tick for that
He was really solid during our winning streak too. Just needs to add some attacking flair coz atm he doesn't get enough ball. It was nice to see the coach give a run of games.
Needs to atone for his last game but he aint The Lone Ranger there.
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Keep a hard nut footballer like this bloke.
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Depth at best.
If he is in our best 22, we are a middle rung side.
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Needs another consistent run like he had this year. I'm prepared to give him one more year. Often does his role.
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Depth at best.
If he is in our best 22, we are a middle rung side.
Not so sure.
He plays a role in the backline that isn't glamourous but sticks to his task. WP highlighted an example. His game against the a Eagles was very good but he only had it a few times.
I like the self sacrifice to fulfill a role, very few in the team are as prepared.
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Would say Jake's safe going by this article on the RFC website
http://www.richmondfc.com.au/news/2014-10-06/batchelor-totally-committed
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Keep, I've always been a fan of his strengths as a footballer, but needs to take it to another level.
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Would say Jake's safe going by this article on the RFC website
http://www.richmondfc.com.au/news/2014-10-06/batchelor-totally-committed
We are a rabble in everyway IMO.
Hawthorn wins it's second flag in a row by 10 goals and signs a AA stuff.
We hope for Batchelor, Astbury and Biff to improve us. All shown next to nothing in 5 odd years. And best af all, we don't want to loose Grigg.
The AFL make it almost impossible for teams like us but we don't help ourselves..
We are a rabble!
They really don't give us much to look forward too when you think about it.
We are all mugs
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Neah; plays the man not the ball, is too slow, is not skilled enough, turns the ball over, apart from some good man on man stuff I don't rate him and i don't think he is the way forward.
x 2
x3 another in a long list of mediocrity.
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Yeah. He will become a beast mark my words. That tackle on darling with Morro. Batch wants it more than most players at our club I reckon, he will work hard and iron out his deficiencies. Look out 2015.
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looking at the poll and im lmao. sites full of chicken littles.they abuse the club for not having balls, but when it comes to duds they cant bring themselves to make a call on chronic crap players..
what a weak as pee lot you are.
like many others, like griffiths the blokes done sfa and the nuffies on here have to defend em.
i can hear you all now. oh what if he comes good lets give him another 5 yr contract to be sure.
and what a yr hes had, a whopping 9 disposals a game cracks in and tackles 2 times a game gets plenty of spoils with a phenominal amount of 1 percenters super super quick we see him running down players left right and centre never ever gets beaten and it goes on and on wins heaps of ball etc etc what a freakin beauty he is.only been in the system 4 yrs and really stacks up well against his peers.
ffs its golden to read we just love our duds on this site.
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It must be hard for an organisation to say it got it wrong after 4 years 50 games etc. It is for me too, I hope he comes good but his stats dont stack up.
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looking at the poll and im lmao. sites full of chicken littles.they abuse the club for not having balls, but when it comes to duds they cant bring themselves to make a call on chronic crap players..
what a weak as pee lot you are.
like many others, like griffiths the blokes done sfa and the nuffies on here have to defend em.
i can hear you all now. oh what if he comes good lets give him another 5 yr contract to be sure.
and what a yr hes had, a whopping 9 disposals a game cracks in and tackles 2 times a game gets plenty of spoils with a phenominal amount of 1 percenters super super quick we see him running down players left right and centre never ever gets beaten and it goes on and on wins heaps of ball etc etc what a freakin beauty he is.only been in the system 4 yrs and really stacks up well against his peers.
ffs its golden to read we just love our duds on this site.
Easy up clawski - there are about 10-12 players who should be cut before batch, therefore stay of execution - 1 more year
simples
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Surely must be on the trade table.
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Should be out after standing up Sam Frost like that.
#jackarse #whataplayer
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looking at the poll and im lmao. sites full of chicken littles.they abuse the club for not having balls, but when it comes to duds they cant bring themselves to make a call on chronic crap players..
what a weak as pee lot you are.
like many others, like griffiths the blokes done sfa and the nuffies on here have to defend em.
i can hear you all now. oh what if he comes good lets give him another 5 yr contract to be sure.
and what a yr hes had, a whopping 9 disposals a game cracks in and tackles 2 times a game gets plenty of spoils with a phenominal amount of 1 percenters super super quick we see him running down players left right and centre never ever gets beaten and it goes on and on wins heaps of ball etc etc what a freakin beauty he is.only been in the system 4 yrs and really stacks up well against his peers.
ffs its golden to read we just love our duds on this site.
You can't just expect every player to be a super stars. Such thing as a role player mate. He plays his role and he plays it well.
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looking at the poll and im lmao. sites full of chicken littles.they abuse the club for not having balls, but when it comes to duds they cant bring themselves to make a call on chronic crap players..
what a weak as pee lot you are.
like many others, like griffiths the blokes done sfa and the nuffies on here have to defend em.
i can hear you all now. oh what if he comes good lets give him another 5 yr contract to be sure.
and what a yr hes had, a whopping 9 disposals a game cracks in and tackles 2 times a game gets plenty of spoils with a phenominal amount of 1 percenters super super quick we see him running down players left right and centre never ever gets beaten and it goes on and on wins heaps of ball etc etc what a freakin beauty he is.only been in the system 4 yrs and really stacks up well against his peers.
ffs its golden to read we just love our duds on this site.
You can't just expect every player to be a super stars. Such thing as a role player mate. He plays his role and he plays it well.
If his role is to look slow, get nowhere near the footy and give away free kicks than he plays his role to a tee. :thumbsup
Depth at best but I'd try and trade him if it were up to me.
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looking at the poll and im lmao. sites full of chicken littles.they abuse the club for not having balls, but when it comes to duds they cant bring themselves to make a call on chronic crap players..
what a weak as pee lot you are.
like many others, like griffiths the blokes done sfa and the nuffies on here have to defend em.
i can hear you all now. oh what if he comes good lets give him another 5 yr contract to be sure.
and what a yr hes had, a whopping 9 disposals a game cracks in and tackles 2 times a game gets plenty of spoils with a phenominal amount of 1 percenters super super quick we see him running down players left right and centre never ever gets beaten and it goes on and on wins heaps of ball etc etc what a freakin beauty he is.only been in the system 4 yrs and really stacks up well against his peers.
ffs its golden to read we just love our duds on this site.
You can't just expect every player to be a super stars. Such thing as a role player mate. He plays his role and he plays it well.
hes a hack id be happy if he could just reach the plain ordinary level and he fails to do that.
where the hell should the line in the sand be drawn. certainly not at batchelors level because what he offers is patently not good enough and the real killer is imo there is very little upside to this bloke.
trade him out cmon no one would take him hes a dud.
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looking at the poll and im lmao. sites full of chicken littles.they abuse the club for not having balls, but when it comes to duds they cant bring themselves to make a call on chronic crap players..
what a weak as pee lot you are.
like many others, like griffiths the blokes done sfa and the nuffies on here have to defend em.
i can hear you all now. oh what if he comes good lets give him another 5 yr contract to be sure.
and what a yr hes had, a whopping 9 disposals a game cracks in and tackles 2 times a game gets plenty of spoils with a phenominal amount of 1 percenters super super quick we see him running down players left right and centre never ever gets beaten and it goes on and on wins heaps of ball etc etc what a freakin beauty he is.only been in the system 4 yrs and really stacks up well against his peers.
ffs its golden to read we just love our duds on this site.
Easy up clawski - there are about 10-12 players who should be cut before batch, therefore stay of execution - 1 more year
simples
its this hang on to em foe one more yr attitude that kills us. with list management player development and our ability to get something for players. so hes not in the worst but in 12 months time he most likely will be.
at least try and trade him out even in a package deal a pick around 50 now is better than nothing at all in 12 months time.
we must make calls on players and get better outcomes than we do atm.
personally ive made it pretty clear what i think hes worth but im not another club and strange things happen if you try.
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Did he not win the best and fairest, in the tac gf winning side?
He is not a 'hack:
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Did he not win the best and fairest, in the tac gf winning side?
He is not a 'hack:
are you saying he could play a bit as a junior. they could all play a bit as juniors. its as an afl player that hes so poor. an afl hack if you like.
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Developing well claw, just can it :shh
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Did he not win the best and fairest, in the tac gf winning side?
He is not a 'hack:
are you saying he could play a bit as a junior. they could all play a bit as juniors. its as an afl player that hes so poor. an afl hack if you like.
I don't like. Because it's too early to tell. If anything he is on the improve.
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No middle ground with old Claw. Player is either developing nicely or a hack, oxygen thief terrorist.
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Batchelor and Conca should be shopped by our club to see what they can get. Batch for a pick between 30 and 40 and Conca for a between 20 and 30 is a fair trade. Both can be traded out without us losing much in terms of team performance.
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Batchelor and Conca should be shopped by our club to see what they can get. Batch for a pick between 30 and 40 and Conca for a between 20 and 30 is a fair trade. Both can be traded out without us losing much in terms of team performance.
If either have that much currency Ramps I will be stuffing stuffed, add another 15-20 draft positions on each
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No middle ground with old Claw. Player is either developing nicely or a hack, oxygen thief terrorist.
ive given hi 4 yrs i think that is plenty for his type.
people are saying hes improved, i disagree hes got bloody worse.
i scratch my head with people i ask do they really look at the type of player they are commenting on. do they have a realistic development time frame in mind, do they look at their overall performances, or look at the glaring weaknesses that are there and say hey they cant perform their role consistently well with these deficiencies.
do they even look at the stats to back up what they see. clearly they dont.
a 188cm bloke with some glaring weaknesses in his game given 4 yrs whose performance level is that of a first yr beginner.
if we want to hang onto blokes like batchelor we wont want to delist anyone. its happens its lets give em another yr they may come good lets just ignore all the kpis.
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No middle ground with old Claw. Player is either developing nicely or a hack, oxygen thief terrorist.
ive given hi 4 yrs i think that is plenty for his type.
people are saying hes improved, i disagree hes got bloody worse.
i scratch my head with people i ask do they really look at the type of player they are commenting on. do they have a realistic development time frame in mind, do they look at their overall performances, or look at the glaring weaknesses that are there and say hey they cant perform their role consistently well with these deficiencies.
do they even look at the stats to back up what they see. clearly they dont.
a 188cm bloke with some glaring weaknesses in his game given 4 yrs whose performance level is that of a first yr beginner.
if we want to hang onto blokes like batchelor we wont want to delist anyone. its happens its lets give em another yr they may come good lets just ignore all the kpis.
I think one more year for Batch is fair. He started to show signs in the second half of this year. If he doenst go up again next year then get out the door. He might actually develop into an undersized KPD like Josh Gibson. Not saying he will be as good but I think he has some development left in him given his size. Rance started to really come on at about the same time of his career.
I think that your opinions on players are too hardline, too black and white.
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No middle ground with old Claw. Player is either developing nicely or a hack, oxygen thief terrorist.
ive given hi 4 yrs i think that is plenty for his type.
people are saying hes improved, i disagree hes got bloody worse.
i scratch my head with people i ask do they really look at the type of player they are commenting on. do they have a realistic development time frame in mind, do they look at their overall performances, or look at the glaring weaknesses that are there and say hey they cant perform their role consistently well with these deficiencies.
do they even look at the stats to back up what they see. clearly they dont.
a 188cm bloke with some glaring weaknesses in his game given 4 yrs whose performance level is that of a first yr beginner.
if we want to hang onto blokes like batchelor we wont want to delist anyone. its happens its lets give em another yr they may come good lets just ignore all the kpis.
I think one more year for Batch is fair. He started to show signs in the second half of this year. If he doenst go up again next year then get out the door. He might actually develop into an undersized KPD like Josh Gibson. Not saying he will be as good but I think he has some development left in him given his size. Rance started to really come on at about the same time of his career.
I think that your opinions on players are too hardline, too black and white.
spot on willy. I think there are players in line before him to get cut and no club would trade for him imo, so one more year and see where he's at. If he maintains similar performances, this time next year he'll very much be in the gun
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No middle ground with old Claw. Player is either developing nicely or a hack, oxygen thief terrorist.
ive given hi 4 yrs i think that is plenty for his type.
people are saying hes improved, i disagree hes got bloody worse.
i scratch my head with people i ask do they really look at the type of player they are commenting on. do they have a realistic development time frame in mind, do they look at their overall performances, or look at the glaring weaknesses that are there and say hey they cant perform their role consistently well with these deficiencies.
do they even look at the stats to back up what they see. clearly they dont.
a 188cm bloke with some glaring weaknesses in his game given 4 yrs whose performance level is that of a first yr beginner.
if we want to hang onto blokes like batchelor we wont want to delist anyone. its happens its lets give em another yr they may come good lets just ignore all the kpis.
Fair dinkum I don't know any other way of putting this, but sometimes I think you troll this site with faux stupidity. You can't be serious?
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No middle ground with old Claw. Player is either developing nicely or a hack, oxygen thief terrorist.
ive given hi 4 yrs i think that is plenty for his type.
people are saying hes improved, i disagree hes got bloody worse.
i scratch my head with people i ask do they really look at the type of player they are commenting on. do they have a realistic development time frame in mind, do they look at their overall performances, or look at the glaring weaknesses that are there and say hey they cant perform their role consistently well with these deficiencies.
do they even look at the stats to back up what they see. clearly they dont.
a 188cm bloke with some glaring weaknesses in his game given 4 yrs whose performance level is that of a first yr beginner.
if we want to hang onto blokes like batchelor we wont want to delist anyone. its happens its lets give em another yr they may come good lets just ignore all the kpis.
I think one more year for Batch is fair. He started to show signs in the second half of this year. If he doenst go up again next year then get out the door. He might actually develop into an undersized KPD like Josh Gibson. Not saying he will be as good but I think he has some development left in him given his size. Rance started to really come on at about the same time of his career.
I think that your opinions on players are too hardline, too black and white.
okay then what signs.what do you expect from a 4th yr medium sized hbf what attributes and where do you think his performance level should be at after 4 yrs.
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No middle ground with old Claw. Player is either developing nicely or a hack, oxygen thief terrorist.
ive given hi 4 yrs i think that is plenty for his type.
people are saying hes improved, i disagree hes got bloody worse.
i scratch my head with people i ask do they really look at the type of player they are commenting on. do they have a realistic development time frame in mind, do they look at their overall performances, or look at the glaring weaknesses that are there and say hey they cant perform their role consistently well with these deficiencies.
do they even look at the stats to back up what they see. clearly they dont.
a 188cm bloke with some glaring weaknesses in his game given 4 yrs whose performance level is that of a first yr beginner.
if we want to hang onto blokes like batchelor we wont want to delist anyone. its happens its lets give em another yr they may come good lets just ignore all the kpis.
Fair dinkum I don't know any other way of putting this, but sometimes I think you troll this site with faux stupidity. You can't be serious?
oh thats great. i have one thing to ask show me where im wrong.rather than just calling people stupid enlighten us all. tell us where you think batchelor should be at. actually rate his performances. tell me just how long he should be given,and god forbid show where he improved.
you know what is stupid people with with an opinion with nothing to back it up.
what is stupid is people defending players after 4 yrs who cant get a kick , make howlers arer so slow its silly give away inordinate amounts of free kicks doesnt tackle enough theres a reason for that he cant keep up. i can go on if you like.
a medium sized player 4 yrs in with all of the above and more and im the stupid one for criticising him. it really is golden. you see im not offended by the insults they really are quite amusing
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I'm with claw on this one. Has no attributes that scream keep.
At least with Griffiths we can see what potentially he can offer us.
Hope he proves me wrong. :gotigers
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I'm with claw on this one. Has no attributes that scream keep.
At least with Griffiths we can see what potentially he can offer us.
Hope he proves me wrong. :gotigers
It pains me to admit it but I'm with the hater as well, Batch has done and shown nothing in way too long
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I'm with claw on this one. Has no attributes that scream keep.
At least with Griffiths we can see what potentially he can offer us.
Hope he proves me wrong. :gotigers
It pains me to admit it but I'm with the hater as well, Batch has done and shown nothing in way too long
Yeah but he was B&F for the 2010 TAC Cup Champions don't ya know?
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No, the main point is we have a host of hacks aged 23+
And yet the focus is on delisting the 22 year old, who may come good as opposed to those that have no room for improvement
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No, the main point is we have a host of hacks aged 23+
And yet the focus is on delisting the 22 year old, who may come good as opposed to those that have no room for improvement
Why can't we just get rid of both?
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Cause you cannot delist 25 people unless you join the church of claw
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I'm with claw on this one. Has no attributes that scream keep.
At least with Griffiths we can see what potentially he can offer us.
Hope he proves me wrong. :gotigers
It pains me to admit it but I'm with the hater as well, Batch has done and shown nothing in way too long
mate i dont hate anyone. all i have ever done is judge players applying my own criteria. i mean to say is 4 yrs too short a period to not be making a call.
No, the main point is we have a host of hacks aged 23+
And yet the focus is on delisting the 22 year old, who may come good as opposed to those that have no room for improvement
we all know we have hacks aged 23 plus but those hacks have actually outperformed batchelor. those hacks have no value because of exposure and age. batchelor doesnt. if we cant make calls on these types after 4 yrs of exposure we will never ever get anywhere.
we should be trying to get a return on our investment while we still have a slim chance to get something.
Cause you cannot delist 25 people unless you join the church of claw
thats golden judge as usual yopu show just how ignorant you are. hmm move on 25 players possibly, but not in one yr not likely in two but could go close 3 yrs will suffice though. ffs we have hardly touched the list this yr and have cut 9. but that is beside the point.
the issue is hanging onto players for so long it becomes abundantly clear to everyone that they arent worth a thing. i have never understood this rampant need to hang onto players for one more yr then one more after that just in case.
4 yrs is an ample amount of time to make a call on players like batchelor its probably too long when you see the obvious and shocking weaknesses in his game.
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WSSC & AFL (Richmond) Jake Batchelor completing traditional deadlifts (on blocks - raised up to coach posture and control/less risk) to develop lower body hip dominate strength, posterior chain (glute/ham complex) & injury prevention for field based athletes!
VIDEO: http://instagram.com/p/vAWWPRrNGg/
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More from Batch's personal training ...
"doing speed work in my offseason to become stronger and more explosive, if you're an athlete of any level and interested; give @woodfordssc a follow. thanks for the session @woody899"
VIDEO: http://instagram.com/p/uP6f2_xej2/
VIDEO: http://instagram.com/p/uhzG-pRenL/
(http://photos-b.ak.instagram.com/hphotos-ak-xaf1/10731607_827565990608385_626607101_n.jpg)
(http://cdndata.bigfooty.com/2014/11/90609_e8be1c951f64f895740180fd9e8547e9.jpg)
(http://cdndata.bigfooty.com/2014/11/90607_f408cd9ee18629091c8549c3a24c51fe.jpg)
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Would be nice if he added some speed
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HOORAY HE AT EAST RECOGNISES SOME OF HIS WEAKNESSES AND IS DOING SOMETHING ABOUT IT.
THE CLUB SHOULD HAVE BEEN WORKING ON THIS AREA OF HIS GAME FROM DAY DOT. YET IT SEEMS HES DONE IT OFF HIS OWN BAT.
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HOORAY HE AT EAST RECOGNISES SOME OF HIS WEAKNESSES AND IS DOING SOMETHING ABOUT IT.
THE CLUB SHOULD HAVE BEEN WORKING ON THIS AREA OF HIS GAME FROM DAY DOT. YET IT SEEMS HES DONE IT OFF HIS OWN BAT.
Think they probably have recognised this is an area for improvement and told Batch, he's just put the extra effort in himself to add the extra sessions
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Yep good to see, hope we see an improvement in speed.
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Would be nice if he added some speed
And skill...
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Battler. I am surprised he is still on our list. Thought he might have been moved on.
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Would be nice if he added some speed
And skill...
Lack of skill is not his problem
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Nope.
Speed and application are the issues
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Would be nice if he added some speed
And skill...
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Do you think Arnott has good skills? Because Batch has better skills
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Jake Batchelor @jakebatchelor11 twitter:
"you know you're from frankston when every time you eat out, you are googling what a word in the menu means..."
https://twitter.com/jakebatchelor11/status/555280805111414784
:laugh:
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Jake Batchelor preseason interview:
VIDEO: http://www.richmondfc.com.au/video/2015-02-04/batchelors-preseason-engagement
* It was good to be able to get my way back into the team [last year] and play 13 games in-a-row. To get that confidence in the body to know that I can do it, has held me in good stead for the start of pre-season and hopefully can lead into this season.
* I want to push into the half-back line this year and be able to provide a bit more run out of the backline and help Bachar and Newy out.
* We’ve got a fighting fit backline - Astbury’s come back, Chaplin and Rance are always going their thing and Ben Lennon’s training the house down as well. He can play forward or back but he’s been training a bit with the backline at the moment and I rekcon he’ll be pushing for Round 1. There’s going to be really good competition for spots which is healthy for the team.
Full article: http://www.richmondfc.com.au/news/2015-02-04/batchelor-boost
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No where near it, missed target after target.....
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Was very good again yesterday after a BOG v the dogs , ripper snag , great to see him taking the next step :clapping
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Was very good again yesterday after a BOG v the dogs , ripper snag , great to see him taking the next step :clapping
@ NAB level.....
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I don't mind Batch, reckon he is a natural footballer.
But jeez he needs to start doing more. How many years in the system now? 3? 4?
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I don't mind some of our list either.....
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I don't mind Batch, reckon he is a natural footballer.
But jeez he needs to start doing more. How many years in the system now? 3? 4?
agree with this.
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I think he is starting to feel that he belongs in the side and his confidence is picking up accordingly. Does a lot of gut running that goes unrewarded.
Just needs to hit more targets with that left foot.
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I think he is starting to feel that he belongs in the side and his confidence is picking up accordingly. Does a lot of gut running that goes unrewarded.
Just needs to hit more targets with that left foot.
Yep agree.
Ran a fair Kms yesterday. Got ignore a few times wafted he'd presented as the sweeping go to guy off HB
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Batch stays, permanently. Think he can be a good swingman if times are tough in the forward line, as he can take a grab and kick the ball.
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Was very good again yesterday after a BOG v the dogs , ripper snag , great to see him taking the next step :clapping
@ NAB level.....
was pivotal in the winning run last year, dunno if you watched the watershed win v the swans, batch was enormous, take it form me , I saw it :shh
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Batch :thumbsup
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Can go ok.
Just being a idiot ;D
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Was very good again yesterday after a BOG v the dogs , ripper snag , great to see him taking the next step :clapping
@ NAB level.....
was pivotal in the winning run last year, dunno if you watched the watershed win v the swans, batch was enormous, take it form me , I saw it :shh
Pivotal, maybe not. Influential definitely.
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Couldn't hit the side of a barn and slows up the play a lot....other than that he's in Brownlow form... :whistle
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except when he slots a goal ?
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Looks to be slightly improved but still won't make the starting team against Carlton.
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Looks to be slightly improved but still won't make the starting team against Carlton.
Disagree, unless injured will be in the starting 22 against Carlton
So if he doesn't play who takes his spot?
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except when he slots a goal ?
Did you watch the match on the weekend W.A.?
Batch hit most of his targets and provided as much run off HB as Houli.
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except when he slots a goal ?
Did you watch the match on the weekend W.A.?
Batch hit most of his targets and provided as much run off HB as Houli.
Yeah I did and that's absolute crap. He missed nearly all his targets, he hit up one player in the forward line and wow, he kicked one goal. Does not have it at this level, is only there to fill a position, he is nothing special and is NAB/VFL at best.
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He's very stock standard and you need some of those players. He provides lots of flexibility for us and does lots of the hard unnoticed stuff.
But he has one glaring issue and that's his haircut
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except when he slots a goal ?
Did you watch the match on the weekend W.A.?
Batch hit most of his targets and provided as much run off HB as Houli.
Yeah I did and that's absolute crap. He missed nearly all his targets, he hit up one player in the forward line and wow, he kicked one goal. Does not have it at this level, is only there to fill a position, he is nothing special and is NAB/VFL at best.
You must have been watching a different game to what I was watching WAT. Jeez.
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Yeah I did and that's absolute crap. He missed nearly all his targets, he hit up one player in the forward line and wow, he kicked one goal. Does not have it at this level, is only there to fill a position, he is nothing special and is NAB/VFL at best.
Have to disagree WAT.
Batch played his role well, did a lot of running to be the link up bloke off HB, not his fault he got ignored. Yep he missed a couple of targets but so did Martin, Deledio et al.
Just watching the replay and his pass to Maric to in the 3rd was the perfect kick
Personally reckon he is in our best 22 and ahead a few others
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except when he slots a goal ?
Did you watch the match on the weekend W.A.?
Batch hit most of his targets and provided as much run off HB as Houli.
Yeah I did and that's absolute crap. He missed nearly all his targets, he hit up one player in the forward line and wow, he kicked one goal. Does not have it at this level, is only there to fill a position, he is nothing special and is NAB/VFL at best.
You must have been watching a different game to what I was watching WAT. Jeez.
I was there and to me he hit up most of his targets
Did it look different on WA TV? Is there some sort of filter on the TV or something ?
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I was there too and thought he played quite well. Definitely changed his game to a more attacking style.
I just don't like his hairstyle.
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I to was there and thought he played his best game for us yet.
One kick comes to mind where he should have gone on his left but miss hit it with his right and the ball dropped short on a leading forward.
Does anyone actually know what his disposal efficiency was?
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WAT has said he stuffed all of his kicks. Case closed.
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In that case I have calculated that his kicking efficiency was 0%. Is my math correct?
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In that case I have calculated that his kicking efficiency was 0%. Is my math correct?
I'm definitely no mathematical mental giant but I do believe you are correct
Can anyone please definitively confirm
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In that case I have calculated that his kicking efficiency was 0%. Is my math correct?
His hair style is a coefficient of his disposal accuracy. Once you calculate that it makes more sense.
Had WAT posted that in the first place I'm sure the confusion would've been avoided. :thumbsup
Don't thank me WAT, happy to help out
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Tell you what some of you keyboard heros just don't like it when someone else doesn't agree do you...
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:lol
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“We’ve got a really solid group, and we’ve gelled really well over pre-season,” Houli told ‘Roar Vision’.
“The likes of Jake Batchelor stepping up, taking his fitness levels to another level is very, very exciting because it gives me a little bit of a chop-out. I don’t have to always get the multiple handball-receives.
http://www.richmondfc.com.au/news/2015-03-16/houli-happy-back
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In that case I have calculated that his kicking efficiency was 0%. Is my math correct?
I'm definitely no mathematical mental giant but I do believe you are correct
Can anyone please definitively confirm
I have emailed Stephen Hawking for confirmation.
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In that case I have calculated that his kicking efficiency was 0%. Is my math correct?
I'm definitely no mathematical mental giant but I do believe you are correct
Can anyone please definitively confirm
I have emailed Stephen Hawking for confirmation.
Thank You, clarity is important
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:lol
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:lol :wallywink
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His disposal efficiency was 88.9% on the day, only had 9 touches though (8 were kicks). Needs to up his production but he's been solid.
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There you go Wat.
And thank you Mr Hawking
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Well that is a relief and I am so glad that it is sorted
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It's good to see we are now dealing in facts and not speculation. I applaud everyone's transparency on this matter.
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:lol :wallywink
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:clapping :clapping
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Well that is a relief and I am so glad that it is sorted
Stylo talks in with an American accent, with an electric type sound to it.
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I would like to know if these results were peer reviewed?
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Wow!! 89.9%! What game was WAT watching again :lol
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I would like to know if these results were peer reviewed?
Excellent question
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Wow!! 89.9%! What game was WAT watching again :lol
think it has been determined he has some sort of filter on his telly, so its not really his fault.
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Wow!! 89.9%! What game was WAT watching again :lol
That's a High Distinction by tertiary education standards
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except when he slots a goal ?
Did you watch the match on the weekend W.A.?
Batch hit most of his targets and provided as much run off HB as Houli.
Yeah I did and that's absolute crap. He missed nearly all his targets, he hit up one player in the forward line and wow, he kicked one goal. Does not have it at this level, is only there to fill a position, he is nothing special and is NAB/VFL at best.
Here is your original comment if you have forgotten it.
Does missing nearly all his targets equate with a disposal efficiency of 88.9%?
You said something blatantly wrong and been called out about it and you have tried to turn this into your usual baiting and belittlement woe is me squealing
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Maybe you got him mixed up with another player Wat. Don't get so agro or you will end up tearing your pooper valve, have a heart attack and a stroke all at the same time. It aint a pretty sight mate.
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except when he slots a goal ?
Did you watch the match on the weekend W.A.?
Batch hit most of his targets and provided as much run off HB as Houli.
Yeah I did and that's absolute crap. He missed nearly all his targets, he hit up one player in the forward line and wow, he kicked one goal. Does not have it at this level, is only there to fill a position, he is nothing special and is NAB/VFL at best.
Here is your original comment if you have forgotten it.
Does missing nearly all his targets equate with a disposal efficiency of 88.9%?
You said something blatantly wrong and been called out about it and you have tried to turn this into your usual baiting and belittlement woe is me squealing
Brilliant, from 8 kicks, wow, all up 9 disposals, Brownlow stuff this. 88.9% from 8 kicks, really, shouldn't that be 100% from that amount of kicks??? The other 10% must have been the crap I was watching being delivered into the forwards, which were way off line apart from one kick that actually hit a forward, however that one mark was contested..
So explain how I am "blatantly wrong"????? I said nearly all his targets were missed!!!! 8th lowest possession gatherer in the team on the day, magnificent!!! Everyone else's fav Morris was third lowest with 4, but what a leader eh!!!
K H D M H O FF
19Jake Batchelor 8 1 9 3 0 0 1
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I'm struggling here, is there any chance we could connect with Stephen Hawking on this?
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I'm struggling here, is there any chance we could connect with Stephen Hawking on this?
Working on a new standard model where hitting almost all targets actually equates to missing nearly all targets. Something to do with anti-kicking-efficiency, stargates, time spent in forward half and a dalek named spot.
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:banghead :banghead
SNIP
There's actually a lot I'd like to say ..... :banghead
FYI : the pitcher is warming up again >:(
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I'm struggling here, is there any chance we could connect with Stephen Hawking on this?
Working on a new standard model where hitting almost all targets actually equates to missing nearly all targets. Something to do with anti-kicking-efficiency, stargates, time spent in forward half and a dalek named spot.
You forgot the co -efficient of 9
9 is a mathematical magical number, you can double it, quarter that number and then multiply by 2 and you end up with 9.
So what than means is that 1 out of 9 is nearly all. The inverse of that is that 1 out of 6 is nothing at all. Once you get into double figures this no longer applies
It's hard to grasp, but once you do, you can understand how the Tardis is bigger on the inside than the outside.
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I'm struggling here, is there any chance we could connect with Stephen Hawking on this?
Working on a new standard model where hitting almost all targets actually equates to missing nearly all targets. Something to do with anti-kicking-efficiency, stargates, time spent in forward half and a dalek named spot.
You forgot the co -efficient of 9
9 is a mathematical magical number, you can double it, quarter that number and then multiply by 2 and you end up with 9.
So what than means is that 1 out of 9 is nearly all. The inverse of that is that 1 out of 6 is nothing at all. Once you get into double figures this no longer applies
It's hard to grasp, but once you do, you can understand how the Tardis is bigger on the inside than the outside.
:lol
You can do that with any number al!
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Because you're being facetious idiots and picking on WAT instead of disagreeing like gentleman.
IMO Batchelor played well, did his role.
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I'm struggling here, is there any chance we could connect with Stephen Hawking on this?
Working on a new standard model where hitting almost all targets actually equates to missing nearly all targets. Something to do with anti-kicking-efficiency, stargates, time spent in forward half and a dalek named spot.
You forgot the co -efficient of 9
9 is a mathematical magical number, you can double it, quarter that number and then multiply by 2 and you end up with 9.
So what than means is that 1 out of 9 is nearly all. The inverse of that is that 1 out of 6 is nothing at all. Once you get into double figures this no longer applies
It's hard to grasp, but once you do, you can understand how the Tardis is bigger on the inside than the outside.
:lol
You can do that with any number al!
No you cant, only by starting with 9, can you end with 9 ;D
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except when he slots a goal ?
Did you watch the match on the weekend W.A.?
Batch hit most of his targets and provided as much run off HB as Houli.
Yeah I did and that's absolute crap. He missed nearly all his targets, he hit up one player in the forward line and wow, he kicked one goal. Does not have it at this level, is only there to fill a position, he is nothing special and is NAB/VFL at best.
Here is your original comment if you have forgotten it.
Does missing nearly all his targets equate with a disposal efficiency of 88.9%?
You said something blatantly wrong and been called out about it and you have tried to turn this into your usual baiting and belittlement woe is me squealing
Brilliant, from 8 kicks, wow, all up 9 disposals, Brownlow stuff this. 88.9% from 8 kicks, really, shouldn't that be 100% from that amount of kicks??? The other 10% must have been the crap I was watching being delivered into the forwards, which were way off line apart from one kick that actually hit a forward, however that one mark was contested..
So explain how I am "blatantly wrong"????? I said nearly all his targets were missed!!!! 8th lowest possession gatherer in the team on the day, magnificent!!! Everyone else's fav Morris was third lowest with 4, but what a leader eh!!!
K H D M H O FF
19Jake Batchelor 8 1 9 3 0 0 1
sorry wat, the point was his disposal which you've always criticised, not the amount of disposals which is a separate(but valid) issue. There is nothing wrong with his disposal, hes a good kick
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80+ disposal efficiency equates to missing nearly every targett hahaha fmd
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Well, that's that then.
So how's Batch gonna go against North?
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Surely he'll miss every target again
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Surely he'll miss every target again
And Hanpson will be amazing in the 2's
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Surely he'll miss every target again
And Hanpson will be amazing in the 2's
As long as Dimma rates him he gets my tick of approval
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Surely he'll miss every target again
And Hanpson will be amazing in the 2's
Whoz Hanapsom?
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Imhoteps son
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Cheers
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Imhoteps son
Read about this guy on a papyrus scroll.
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So how did we rate his game against North?
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So how did we rate his game against North?
Disposal effeciency was down on last week.
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So how did we rate his game against North?
Disposal effeciency was down on last week.
Wasn't everything down???
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So how did we rate his game against North?
Disposal effeciency was down on last week.
Wasn't everything down???
In fairness he did start as the sub. Replaced Grimes
Thought he was average when he came on, they seemed to chopping and changing who he was supposed to play on as well.
I really feel for him at times, he follows the plan of running to the wing to be the go to guy and time and time again he gets ignored, he had fresh legs and they all seem to go looking for Houli
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So how did we rate his game against North?
Disposal effeciency was down on last week.
Wasn't everything down???
In fairness he did start as the sub. Replaced Grimes
Thought he was average when he came on, they seemed to chopping and changing who he was supposed to play on as well.
I really feel for him at times, he follows the plan of running to the wing to be the go to guy and time and time again he gets ignored, he had fresh legs and they all seem to go looking for Houli
Yeah I realise that.
I think Houli offers a lot more.
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Sprayed his first one but was solid after that
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Need a big year from him has showed steady improvement.
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DUD Delist. no one would be silly enough to trade for him.
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DUD Delist. no one would be silly enough to trade for him.
:clapping :clapping :clapping
Would have to do something very special to impress tonight!!
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I'm sure he will have your post on his locker when he gets changed tonight ;D
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Jeez....pretty harsh Wat and Claw
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What I find interesting - Jake was very much apart of the 9 game winning streak. Played in all the victories.
He did not play in the first half of the year when most of us were burning our Richmond memorabilia in bonfires
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What I find interesting - Jake was very much apart of the 9 game winning streak. Played in all the victories.
He did not play in the first half of the year when most of us were burning our Richmond memorabilia in bonfires
good take on it but rance deledio maric and miles say hello.
win or lose last yr most of the time i watched us play batchelor was ordinary. lucky hes a dimma favorite imo.
who in their right mind would want to play a slow non agile 188cm bloke up against genuine talls when you dont have to. anyone have an answer.
why would you play a slow non agile 188cm bloke who continually fumbles and cant find the ball on sml/med players or as a rebounder anyone have an answer. he doesnt have the attributes and that will always be the case.
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What I find interesting - Jake was very much apart of the 9 game winning streak. Played in all the victories.
He did not play in the first half of the year when most of us were burning our Richmond memorabilia in bonfires
good take on it but rance deledio maric and miles say hello.
win or lose last yr most of the time i watched us play batchelor was ordinary. lucky hes a dimma favorite imo.
who in their right mind would want to play a slow non agile 188cm bloke up against genuine talls when you dont have to. anyone have an answer.
why would you play a slow non agile 188cm bloke who continually fumbles and cant find the ball on sml/med players or as a rebounder anyone have an answer. he doesnt have the attributes and that will always be the case.
How was it, he was successful as a junior?
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What I find interesting - Jake was very much apart of the 9 game winning streak. Played in all the victories.
He did not play in the first half of the year when most of us were burning our Richmond memorabilia in bonfires
good take on it but rance deledio maric and miles say hello.
win or lose last yr most of the time i watched us play batchelor was ordinary. lucky hes a dimma favorite imo.
who in their right mind would want to play a slow non agile 188cm bloke up against genuine talls when you dont have to. anyone have an answer.
why would you play a slow non agile 188cm bloke who continually fumbles and cant find the ball on sml/med players or as a rebounder anyone have an answer. he doesnt have the attributes and that will always be the case.
How was it, he was successful as a junior?
if ni could answer that about all recruits id be on every clubs list as a recruiter.
thing is i didnt rate him as a junior and thoght him a big reach.
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He was good tonight
Plenty of run off HB
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What I find interesting - Jake was very much apart of the 9 game winning streak. Played in all the victories.
He did not play in the first half of the year when most of us were burning our Richmond memorabilia in bonfires
good take on it but rance deledio maric and miles say hello.
win or lose last yr most of the time i watched us play batchelor was ordinary. lucky hes a dimma favorite imo.
who in their right mind would want to play a slow non agile 188cm bloke up against genuine talls when you dont have to. anyone have an answer.
why would you play a slow non agile 188cm bloke who continually fumbles and cant find the ball on sml/med players or as a rebounder anyone have an answer. he doesnt have the attributes and that will always be the case.
How was it, he was successful as a junior?
if ni could answer that about all recruits id be on every clubs list as a recruiter.
thing is i didnt rate him as a junior and thoght him a big reach.
just curios as to what his strengths would of be viewed at
i dont think hes the worst player in the team
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I reckon he's settled into the backline well and plays his role well. Strong in the contest, good kick and is starting to rebound more
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l have always liked Batch. l think the team plays well when his in the side. When his confidence is up his a very hard worker. Grymes is the one who is a bit radical & needs to go harder. They have to perform cause the pressure will come on all of them with Astbury wanting to play & you cannot play Astbury, Batchlor, Grymes, Chaplin, Rance all in the one side cause we will be slaughtered.
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OK.
Astbury IN next week.
Bachelor OUT.
IMO, they will keep Grimes in the team as he can play on smaller forwards.
Newman needs to be dropped BUT because Hardwick loves him, we can forget that happening!
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15 touches at 83%. 5 score involvements.
Did his job.
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Perfect for Crameri.
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Yep perfect for crameri. Grimes for Stringer.
No match up for David this week.
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Yep perfect for crameri. Grimes for Stringer.
No match up for David this week.
Could argue Astbury might be a better fit for Boyd than Rance, leaving Rance for Crameri.
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Batch normally gets creamed by Crameri? Not enough strength.
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Yep perfect for crameri. Grimes for Stringer.
No match up for David this week.
Could argue Astbury might be a better fit for Boyd than Rance, leaving Rance for Crameri.
Todd Elton beat Boyd easily.
Will not bother many teams for a few years.
:thumbsup
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Chaplin to Boyd and Rance to Redpath I reckon
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Chaplin to Boyd and Rance to Redpath I reckon
Will kick 5 just from free kicks if he gets Chaplin, can already see the headline, "Bulldogs Boyd on!" ;)
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Unfortunately if he's in the team, he has to go to someone and he just won't get dropped. He did turn it around last year and became serviceable after a sloppy start so I hope he does again by gee whiz I hope Astbury comes on
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Jake and Grimes.
They remind me of two wandering Jews, lost in the desert of defence with no real KP to call their own.
Ability level -maybe 7
Need to build their mental strength to get the most out of what they have.
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Jake and Grimes.
They remind me of two wandering Jews, lost in the desert of defence with no real KP to call their own.
hhaarrggghhh thats gold.
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Jake and Grimes.
They remind me of two wandering Jews, lost in the desert of defence with no real KP to call their own.
hhaarrggghhh thats gold.
It's hilarious ::)
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Jake and Grimes.
They remind me of two wandering Jews, lost in the desert of defence with no real KP to call their own.
hhaarrggghhh thats gold.
It's hilarious ::)
good to see we agree on something ::) i suppose things that have a ring of truth to them are always the funniest.
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Batchelor interview on Talking Tigers podcast:
AUDIO: http://www.richmondfc.com.au/video/2015-04-08/batchelor-on-talking-tigers-april-7
* For the 2013-14 preseason, I didn’t come back in the best nick so I had to work my butt off to lose a few kilos. It makes a massive difference. I worked pretty closely with [Physical Performance Manager] Peter Burge. We realised that was an area that needed improving and it’s showed so far.
* We basically left generating run out of defence up to only Bachar Houli all last year and it kind of stagnates your movement. It’s a lot easier for oppositions to defend if you don’t have run coming out off the half-back line,” he said. So, I think with the addition of Vlastuin, Grimes and myself adding that extra endurance to our bodies, we can help Bachar out a bit and share the load.
* [New backline coach] Ben Rutten is fantastic. A big thumbs up. I think the fact that he’s come straight out of playing, he’s got that good balance with being a coach but he can still muck around with the boys and he’s got a wealth of knowledge. He’s played over 230 games and was an All-Australian, so he’s a great addition to us, not only to the key defenders but he knows a lot about all the half-back roles and stuff like that as well. You wouldn’t think of it from him being a big key backman but he’s told me ways to be able to get cheap, easy possessions as well. It’s just running to the contest and working your backside off.
Full article: http://www.richmondfc.com.au/news/2015-04-08/batchelor-up-and-running
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Another top,effort.....NOT, disposal was Shi t as usual, cost us big time with his other mates!
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I actually thought he was one of the better ones from a bad bunch
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Made a couple of bad errors, but on the whole he was pretty good I thought, would go with him over Grimes atm that's for sure
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Made a couple of bad errors, but on the whole he was pretty good I thought, would go with him over Grimes atm that's for sure
Agree
Certainly his fault that the transition kick in 2nd qtr out to Ellis & Vlaustin was butcherd so badly by Ellis who refused to attack the ball
Thought our back six wasn't the problem at all yesterday
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I have thought for a very long time now that our problems are forward of centre.You curb jack and we struggle.
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I have thought for a very long time now that our problems are forward of centre.You curb jack and we struggle.
deledio -> CHF
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maybe i was at a different game i thought Batch was more than servicable. In fact our defence stood up if you ask me.
Its forward of the defensive 50 where we have an issue and have done so for the last 2 years. Who is our forward coach now. he/she e should hand in their resignation along with peggy sue and dimwit
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Lids to CHF is probably the way to go..I also think why not give Astbury a crack at it ,couldn't do anyworse than sideshow Bob and harry Houdini
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Batch was good yesterday. As was most of our backline, bar maybe Houli who made a couple of howlers.
WAT doesn't like him so he just pots him regardless.
It was our forward line and our midfield (defensively) that were/are the problem.
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Batch was good yesterday. As was most of our backline, bar maybe Houli who made a couple of howlers.
WAT doesn't like him so he just pots him regardless.
It was our forward line and our midfield (defensively) that were/are the problem.
"most of our backline was good" is crap - rance covered the gaps
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Whatever. The point is that we lost the game in the forward half and the midfield.
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Batch was good yesterday. As was most of our backline, bar maybe Houli who made a couple of howlers.
WAT doesn't like him so he just pots him regardless.
It was our forward line and our midfield (defensively) that were/are the problem.
Yep. Generally agree with this.
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Is having a solid year but tonight was a great game by the young man. :clapping
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Was great tonight. Disciplined and set the ball rolling with our first goal of the game. :thumbsup
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At least he looked like a footballer tonight.
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They can run out on the ground looking like tiny tim for all I care just as long as they can play
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Trending the right way, glad he got a hair cut too.
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seems best 22 now
got a backline spot with his name on it
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Trending the right way, glad he got a hair cut too.
Reverse Sampson effect?
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seems best 22 now
got a backline spot with his name on it
Grigg > Batch
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seems best 22 now
got a backline spot with his name on it
Grigg > Batch
but
bachelor can actually play back pocket or half back stuff, to some sort of AFL standard
where as grigg was worth without a defensive bone in his body.
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Decent, again
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Funny how winning games changes some peoples opinions of players
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Funny how winning games changes some peoples opinions of players
Not really
Grigg and Chaplin are awful regardless
Win lose draw
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Thought he was crap last night too....
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Thought he was crap last night too....
Think I will agree with you, his very first kick was a turnover, I was going to bring this thread up but thought all I would be doing all night would be posting on it. He needs a stint in the two's..
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Conditions made it harder for tall forwards but credit where it's due for Batch's job on McCarthy and keeping him to just two kicks and no goals.
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Very costly turnovers yet again and is too short. Did stand up in the last a couple of times though when it counted.
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Conditions made it harder for tall forwards but credit where it's due for Batch's job on McCarthy and keeping him to just two kicks and no goals.
Well said :clapping Playing solid smart football these days.
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The dropped mark that led to the goal in the last was heart breaking
But he redeemed himself well
Did a few vital things
Key part of backline now, after rance/vlastuin/grimes ?
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Wet ball zipping in fast....i forgive him.
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Did a good defensive job today and won a couple of critical contests in the last. The combination of him and Grimes still makes me very nervous at times. Has to start winning more than 10 posses a game as well.
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I've been critical of Jake as a few others have on this sight but he was superb today. Did his best work early as well when the game was still up for grabs. Has been doing good defensive jobs all year but is starting to win more ball as well.
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Was solid today. I assume he is learning off Rance but I noticed a few times he did a great job spoiling and working his opponent into unfavourable positions.
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Can kick
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One good game, good game only, does not mean he is a star nor does it mean he's the answer in that role!!
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Was solid today. I assume he is learning off Rance but I noticed a few times he did a great job spoiling and working his opponent into unfavourable positions.
Did that a few times today, one on with Moore and Reid. Was fantastic.
Showed that he can punch above his weight.
I think he is an integral part of our regular back 6. :thumbsup
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:lol :rollin
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One good game, good game only, does not mean he is a star nor does it mean he's the answer in that role!!
Only 23 - so he still has some upside
in his 70 odd games some would say at least a few have been 'solid'
He might not be an answer for a long term back 6 player but at the moment he looks pretty good company to Rance, Vlastuin, Grimes. At worst he is a solider and would be excellent depth
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One good game, good game only, does not mean he is a star nor does it mean he's the answer in that role!!
Yep, let's drop him
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One good game, good game only, does not mean he is a star nor does it mean he's the answer in that role!!
Leigh Matthews whose opinion I respect greatly had Batchelor in our best 3 today and suggested that he is underrated by many. Said his kicking is very very good
I'd think that's a pretty reasonable recommendation
I'll take it, good enough for me
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:chuck :chuck :chuck
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Batch has improved this year, he's ok
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nothing fancy from Jake ,just a reliable defender
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Has shown a lot of improvement this year and if he is forced from our 22 by a better player then we will be in a very good position depth-wise.
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One good game, good game only, does not mean he is a star nor does it mean he's the answer in that role!!
Leigh Matthews whose opinion I respect greatly had Batchelor in our best 3 today and suggested that he is underrated by many. Said his kicking is very very good
I'd think that's a pretty reasonable recommendation
I'll take it, good enough for me
I like Batch but his kicking does fluctuate a lot. Can give a perfect bullet but then miss an open lob the next time. Needs to work on his consistency (in regards to kicking)
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^^^ Cos he's crap!! :snidegrin :snidegrin :snidegrin
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I think Leigh Matthews is hypocritical, blithering idiot who should have been thrown in a nursing home 5 years ago. Having said that I think Batch is a solid player for the most part. His kicking and decision making can be VFL 2's standard at times though
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I think Leigh Matthews is hypocritical, blithering idiot who should have been thrown in a nursing home 5 years ago. Having said that I think Batch is a solid player for the most part. His kicking and decision making can be VFL 2's standard at times though
See highlighted area everyone!!! :snidegrin :snidegrin :snidegrin
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I think Leigh Matthews is hypocritical, blithering idiot who should have been thrown in a nursing home 5 years ago. Having said that I think Batch is a solid player for the most part. His kicking and decision making can be VFL 2's standard at times though
See highlighted area everyone!!! :snidegrin :snidegrin :snidegrin
hes left footed and not many left footed kickers suck
sometimes bach. kicks them really nice darts
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I think Leigh Matthews is hypocritical, blithering idiot who should have been thrown in a nursing home 5 years ago. Having said that I think Batch is a solid player for the most part. His kicking and decision making can be VFL 2's standard at times though
See highlighted area everyone!!! :snidegrin :snidegrin :snidegrin
hes left footed and not many left footed kickers suck
sometimes bach. kicks them really nice darts
Sometimes!!!!! Thats the problem...sometimes!!!!!
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I think Leigh Matthews is hypocritical, blithering idiot who should have been thrown in a nursing home 5 years ago. Having said that I think Batch is a solid player for the most part. His kicking and decision making can be VFL 2's standard at times though
See highlighted area everyone!!! :snidegrin :snidegrin :snidegrin
No reason to ignore everything else he does right
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Trade him.
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Trade him.
I would want a high pick
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Trade him.
I would want a high pick
Late first or Early second rounder would be a break even.
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Batch is having a great season and playing his role very well.
Can't ask for much more from a bloke of his ability.
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Batch is having a great season and playing his role very well.
Can't ask for much more from a bloke of his ability.
Exactly. He's a role player and right now he's playing his role well. If everyone plays their role well you have a successful team.
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:lol :lol :lol
:stupid :facepalm :facepalm :facepalm
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:lol :lol :lol
:stupid :facepalm :facepalm :facepalm
?????
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Go to the game & watch how he plays his part. Then you know why his in the side.
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Go to the game & watch how he plays his part. Then you know why his in the side.
Exactly Monk :clapping
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Go to the game & watch how he plays his part. Then you know why his in the side.
Exactly Monk :clapping
Batch is in good solid form at the moment. Still comparatively young but playing like a veteran
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I think Leigh Matthews is hypocritical, blithering idiot who should have been thrown in a nursing home 5 years ago. Having said that I think Batch is a solid player for the most part. His kicking and decision making can be VFL 2's standard at times though
I think his kicking is Ok but falls down when he tries to pin point a pass. Doesn't have the skill level to do that consistently.
Just needs to pick the options that are under less pressure and then he has good vlaue with his defence work especially being strong in the air.
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Very good VFL player at best.
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Go to the game & watch how he plays his part. Then you know why his in the side.
Exactly Monk :clapping
:clapping :clapping
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Very good VFL player at best.
This is slowly turning into another Edwards thread :whistle
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slowly?
turning?
i think that horse has already bolted
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Go to the game & watch how he plays his part. Then you know why his in the side.
Don't know why you bother responding to it TBH, WAT clearly knows zilch about Footy, his eyes on the ball comment while kicking proves that
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Always liked batch. thought he used to get beaten too often though. hes fixed that right up and i reckon his disposals always been good. I hate how people expect every player to star and get 20+ possessions. the best teams have solid role players and that's batch for ya
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I call him doc coz he has the precision of a surgeons scalpel, the opposition hate it in his hands just quietly :shh
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Don't know why people knock his disposal. Consistently hits teammates on the title, laces out.
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Don't know why people knock his disposal. Consistently hits teammates on the title, laces out.
He actually does hit players on the CHEST, laces out.....opposition players... :snidegrin
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Very good VFL player at best.
This is slowly turning into another Edwards thread :whistle
I have as much right to voice my opinion just as much as you all are!! You brainwashed lot are saying as much for him as I am against him! :whistle
Duck on over to the Hampson or Grigg thread and you will find the same, so stop being selective with your rant!! :snidegrin
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Edwards did not just magically come good one day ...
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so who in your opinion should replace him?
Dea, Grimes, Castagna, McDonough, Elton, but just like Newman Hardwick has his favourites so they will always stay!! Batch and Morris are another two favourites!!!
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Snip. :banghead :banghead
Enough with the insults and snipes at other posters
Stick to discussing the topic
Finally warning to everyone
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Edwards did not just magically come good one day ...
Last year he did.
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so who in your opinion should replace him?
Dea, Grimes, Castagna, McDonough, Elton, but just like Newman Hardwick has his favourites so they will always stay!! Batch and Morris are another two favourites!!!
Ever thought he's getting a game before all these guys (except for Grimes because he's played along side Batchelor most of the season) because he's actualy better than them?
Imagin how McDonough would have gone against Cloke on the weekend :lol
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Jake Batchelor
23 years old
Playing on third tall or small forward.
Effenciency - 81 percent.
Let's be fair, the guy is young and is going to make mistakes, but this guy is showing alot more than any of the other players that have had their chances.
As for hitting lace out, on the weekend he hit lids inside 50.
Then coming out of backline, hits a target in between two pies supporters.
Like guys, how much do you actually want from this kid.
The kid is doing a great job, and i think he is only going better.
He is going that good, that we all think he is older and more experienced than a 23 year old.
Let's all be fair, and give credit when credit is due instead of being stubborn and hate being wrong.
kid is in our best 22, will be good for the future.
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Very good VFL player at best.
This is slowly turning into another Edwards thread :whistle
I have as much right to voice my opinion just as much as you all are!! You brainwashed lot are saying as much for him as I am against him! :whistle
Duck on over to the Hampson or Grigg thread and you will find the same, so stop being selective with your rant!! :snidegrin
Forgot that you are the only one who rates Hampson :lol
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Jake Batchelor
23 years old
Playing on third tall or small forward.
Effenciency - 81 percent.
Let's be fair, the guy is young and is going to make mistakes, but this guy is showing alot more than any of the other players that have had their chances.
As for hitting lace out, on the weekend he hit lids inside 50.
Then coming out of backline, hits a target in between two pies supporters.
Like guys, how much do you actually want from this kid.
The kid is doing a great job, and i think he is only going better.
He is going that good, that we all think he is older and more experienced than a 23 year old.
Let's all be fair, and give credit when credit is due instead of being stubborn and hate being wrong.
kid is in our best 22, will be good for the future.
Great post and spot on!
Aside from Astbury there is no one on our list that can play the same roll as Batch. He has grown in that position this season and will only get better.
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Grimes
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Edwards did not just magically come good one day ...
Last year he did.
Perhaps you refuse to have seen Shane Edwards decent games up until then, or good parts of games
In a similar way to what you do bachelor now?
Or you think it's more realistic Edwards was gash for a decade and suddenly became a gun?
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Grimes
If Grimes replaces Batchelor who comes in for Morris ;D
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Griff or Mcbean
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so who in your opinion should replace him?
Dea, Grimes, Castagna, McDonough, Elton, but just like Newman Hardwick has his favourites so they will always stay!! Batch and Morris are another two favourites!!!
Ever thought he's getting a game before all these guys (except for Grimes because he's played along side Batchelor most of the season) because he's actualy better than them?
Imagin how McDonough would have gone against Cloke on the weekend :lol
WTF, How the hell did you get the idea he was on Cloke??????? Were you watching your own game again down there or perhaps the rerun from years ago... :huh :huh :huh
Do you have TV there??
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I happens to actualy be at the game and while he may have not of started on Cloke at the center bounce there we're many occasions where Batchelour was left one on one with Cloke.
Even watching the replay on tv you will see that.
Amazing what you notice when you actualy go to a game😉
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I just don't get the hate. I can't understand how anyone can mount a serious argument to the effect that he's a dud.
At worst one might say he's serviceable. But I think he's usually been a level above serviceable (handy?) and floating between the two. An important team cog.
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NOTHING WORNG WITH bATCH EVEN THU HE LOOKS LIKE HE IS GOING HALF PACE ALL THE TIME HE IS BLOSSOMING INTO A STRONG BACK 6 FOR US :thumbsup :thumbsup :thumbsup
GO U TIGERS
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SNIP AGAIN :banghead
Which part of final warning do people not understand :banghead
Constant baiting of other posters will not be tolerated, those on multiple strikes should be accutely aware that another strike and they are off OER PERMANANTLY
And one final and I emphasise FINAL reminder, posting on the forum that other posters deserve a strike or posting comments such as "enjoy your holiday" can also result that poster facing a strike being themsleves
See: http://oneeyed-richmond.com/forum/index.php?topic=17325.msg352746#msg352746 (near the end)
For those who are using the "report to moderator" function you are doing the correct thing. But to then post comments after reporting simply because we (mods) haven't been on the site to deal with the posts reported is not acceptable either.
As we have said many times we cannot be on the site 24/7. FWIW I am currently at work so I have limited time available to be on the site. However, when we are here we deal with things, it would be appreciated if people could consider that if and when you think we are too slow in repsonding to complaints
Finally, I am not interested in who started it, the standard finger pointing or the simple "it's not my fault" lines of defence, facts are stirkes will be issued if it continues
WP & OE
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Thank you WP, it must be tough being a mod sometimes.
I apologize for any inconvenience caused.
Cheers
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l will make it easy for you all to understand. Football is played more of who has what in the tank. A defender can go from defence to inside 50 following his opponent & back again within 90 seconds that the ball is moved that quickly. Sometime the defender is so worn out that when they do dispose of the ball it falls short of the target. l have seen Batchlor hit players on the wing lace out from 50 metres which he does in most games. if l remember rightly from where l was sitting he pinned someone perfect from defence to near the interchange with opposition either side of that player it was perfect timed kick for that distance. It takes time to build a team to win a premiership & then it must go to plan on that big day which hundreds of times teams go through a season undefeated to lose the most important game the grand final. If players are sore & worn out in todays game they are forced to make errors. That is the plan of running your opponent out of breathe. Why do you think they use interchange so often. You can have a different opponent 4 times within 10 minutes so the AFL cut the interchange. Football is not the same as it was 10-15-20 years ago. Its super fast & players are so fatigued they make mistakes. Rance, Chaplin, Batchlor, Vlaustin, Newman, Grymes, who then have players like B Ellis, Deledio, Cotchen, Maric, Vickery, Griffiths, Rewoldt, Martin, dropping back so again its the forwards who are running from forward to defence & back all within 90 seconds or less. It take a elite group of players to do that & pull it off properly. This is why skills drop in the AFL over the years. This is why forwards miss easy goals your everyday footballer miss because of fatigue. Our players are very fit & this is why its hard to bring players up from reserves to the next level cause its a whole different game plan & alot faster or loads more running. This is what our club lacked over the years, But now we have the facilities to train harder that the results come with it. So in saying all this if your at the game you see the whole picture of how much ground these players cover & how quick they cover it. There is really no term of defender / forward now days. They are all over the ground. So going back to Batchlor & watching him play & follow him you will see he is a major part of that backline & this lad does have alot of skill & good size. Go stand next to him, He ain't no small 3rd defender who plays on smaller forwards. He takes Rance & Chaplin opponent often. So don't look at football how we played it. Look at football as it is played & coached today. They are elite atheltic players who can play almost any position bar the ruck. But look at how the big men play like Maric, Vickery, Griffiths. They even rove their own ball. The Richmond backline is becoming the most elite in the AFL today & Batchlor plays a huge part of that. ;D
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:huh
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Unreal, just for defending my stance!!
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Unreal, just for defending my stance!!
if only your view was not wrong :shh
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I just don't get the hate. I can't understand how anyone can mount a serious argument to the effect that he's a dud.
At worst one might say he's serviceable. But I think he's usually been a level above serviceable (handy?) and floating between the two. An important team cog.
Nice post Dooks :cheers
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I don't get it either.
I understand it toward newman, conca, Ellis etc....
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As we have said many times we cannot be on the site 24/7. FWIW I am currently at work so I have limited time available to be on the site. However, when we are here we deal with things, it would be appreciated if people could consider that if and when you think we are too slow in repsonding to complaints
Ever thought of another mod?
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so who in your opinion should replace him?
Dea, Grimes, Castagna, McDonough, Elton, but just like Newman Hardwick has his favourites so they will always stay!! Batch and Morris are another two favourites!!!
Ever thought he's getting a game before all these guys (except for Grimes because he's played along side Batchelor most of the season) because he's actualy better than them?
Imagin how McDonough would have gone against Cloke on the weekend :lol
WTF, How the hell did you get the idea he was on Cloke??????? Were you watching your own game again down there or perhaps the rerun from years ago... :huh :huh :huh
Do you have TV there??
Didn't play on Cloke but due to Rance running off his man he was one on one with Cloke and with Moore a few times in the second and he was better than break even and got the crumb going to the advantage of Houli and Chaplain.
Wasn't on TV happened right in front of me sitting on bottom level on M6.
Important part of our back 6 nowadays. :thumbsup
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Are you kidding me with this guy. Couldn't even Shepard :banghead
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Stuffen Dud
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Only guy standing up tonight!
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Only guy standing up tonight!
What game are you watching? He stood there and did nothing after giving the ball off to Elis, he didn't even shepherd. Is that standing up?
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Only guy standing up tonight!
What game are you watching? He stood there and did nothing after giving the ball off to Elis, he didn't even shepherd. Is that standing up?
What game are you watching?
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Only guy standing up tonight!
What game are you watching? He stood there and did nothing after giving the ball off to Elis, he didn't even shepherd. Is that standing up?
What game are you watching?
The one where he stood there and did nothing!
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Only guy standing up tonight!
What game are you watching? He stood there and did nothing after giving the ball off to Elis, he didn't even shepherd. Is that standing up?
What game are you watching?
The one where he stood there and did nothing!
He's been OK. I'm at the ground. Nobody is running hard except Rance for us.
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First half was pathetic by most but Batch was far from the worst of them.
That's what I saw and I stand by it....
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Batch was good and has been all year.
Anything else is a joke of an opinion.
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He's got faster ?
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Very astute game from Batch.
Very astute game.
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He's got faster ?
Go watch him chase Majac Daw.... :whistle ::)
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He's got faster ?
Go watch him chase Majac Daw.... :whistle ::)
Burned off Hunt to give a fair attempted chase down. Good player is Batch :clapping
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He's got faster ?
Most definitely and a big reason why he's become a good solid player. Bulking him up a few years back was one of the dumber decisions made by our coaching committee. I'm going to blow my own trumpet here but I've been saying for years, trim this guy down and improve his agility- can play!
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no-one played hard last night. They only had to do enough to win. :snidegrin
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I reckon tiger monk is on the money..we played 10 minutes in the beginning of the 3rd quarter and that was all that was needed
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Are you kidding me with this guy. Couldn't even Shepard :banghead
Noticed plenty of times in this game and others that he puts in a fair dinkum attempt to shepherd when he is originally out of the contest. Watch closely. He burns off players and makes him look fast so you probably don't think it's him but he only looks fast cause he is the only one trying
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They are talking Batch up a bit now on SEN while interviewing Hardwick...
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They are talking Batch up a bit now on SEN while interviewing Hardwick...
Yep, most people realise he's a pretty good foot soldier. May of stuffed up a shepherd but he does his role well. Can't have 22 Deledios playing
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They are talking Batch up a bit now on SEN while interviewing Hardwick...
Yep, most people realise he's a pretty good foot soldier. May of stuffed up a shepherd but he does his role well. Can't have 22 Deledios playing
yep and for the most part I find he does more of the one percenters like blocking & shepherding
Its no coincidence for mine, that our backline has became a better functioning unit from the time he became a regular part of the back 6/7 about mid last season
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If Batch becomes that depth backman we are in a very good position :shh
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Batch is the sorta guy you'd want in the trenches with ya.
Solid guy who gets the job done, clever and dependable. Might I add, I reckon he's still got some potential to improve even more.
:gotigers
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Jake and Grimes.
They remind me of two wandering Jews, lost in the desert of defence with no real KP to call their own.
Ability level -maybe 7
Need to build their mental strength to get the most out of what they have.
:outtahere
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He's got faster ?
Go watch him chase Majac Daw.... :whistle ::)
Burned off Hunt to give a fair attempted chase down. Good player is Batch :clapping
Yep. Burned Hunt (not slow) and gained ground on Daw (not slow). Bizarre example to bring up if you're trying to prove a point
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Getting absolutely flogged by Waite.. :help
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Getting absolutely flogged by Waite.. :help
I know Dimma uses Batch as a 3rd tall but it's not a great match-up 1-on-1 when North are playing 3 KPFs and playing Waite deep. Batch should be pushing Waite up high where Waite's goalkicking is unreliable.
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Well many on here talk up how "tall" Batch plays...so that's crap after seeing him today, he is a mile behind Waite and Waite is killing him in the air too.
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I hope you all saw how he deserted Deledio on the wing.. :banghead
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Playing Batch and Griff will cost a stuffen final!
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Another pathetic attempt by Batch see the ball heading down their end..
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pee POOR batch, talk about putting your team mates under pressure, causing another turnover!!!!
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Any chance we had is gone, Waite again seals it against the great Batchelor......
I said he would cost us a game and there it is.
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Worst match up decision of all time
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A very average footballer and not up to finals footy - but sadly not the only one we have.
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Well half the nuffers on here reckon he plays tall.....WTF I really mean WTF.
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I hope his game gave you pleasure WAT
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Lmao I said at quarter time he was too slow for Waite and Hardwick didn't change it all game. Look where that got us.
Grimes would be a better match up, otherwise Rance TBH.
And here's WAT feeling all smug because Hardwick chose a mismatch LOL.
Batchelor is a 3rd up or medium. Never a tall. Not his bloody fault.
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I hope his game gave you pleasure WAT
That's a crap post. It doesn't give anyone pleasure to be right at the expense of our deficiencies. Nothing would give WAT more satisfaction than to be wrong. He is a passionate Richmond supporter as we all are on here, the fact that some of us are willing to put our thoughts on a forum at the cost of being wrong is in my opinion a sign of the passionate indignation that we can sometimes feel as Richmond supporters.
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I hope his game gave you pleasure WAT
That's a crap post. It doesn't give anyone pleasure to be right at the expense of our deficiencies. Nothing would give WAT more satisfaction than to be wrong. He is a passionate Richmond supporter as we all are on here, the fact that some of us are willing to put our thoughts on a forum at the cost of being wrong is in my opinion a sign of the passionate indignation that we can sometimes feel as Richmond supporters.
Here bloody here!!! Well said.
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I hope his game gave you pleasure WAT
Worse post of the year. Your a disgrace.
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he is being very poorly coached
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Is putting your team mate under pressure with a poo hand pass, turning the ball over and not helping out your mates poor coaching. Face it, he is a plodder. He is another Morris list clogger and he has to go.
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Batchelor might try etc but he is simply out of his class and he represents the poor decision making abilities of our pathetic administration.
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Batchelor might try etc but he is simply out of his class and he represents the poor decision making abilities of our pathetic administration.
Agree J, our team selection was pitiful
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Lmao I said at quarter time he was too slow for Waite and Hardwick didn't change it all game. Look where that got us.
Grimes would be a better match up, otherwise Rance TBH.
And here's WAT feeling all smug because Hardwick chose a mismatch LOL.
Batchelor is a 3rd up or medium. Never a tall. Not his bloody fault.
Great post
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Batchelor might try etc but he is simply out of his class and he represents the poor decision making abilities of our pathetic administration.
Great post!
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Batchelor might try etc but he is simply out of his class and he represents the poor decision making abilities of our pathetic administration.
Spot on. He can't play simple as that. Pathetic that he was gifted 23 games this year. Was a shame in the end it cost us a final.
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If Chaplin wasn't such a crap key defender he could of taken Waite instead of having to go with Batch on him
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If Chaplin wasn't such a crap key defender he could of taken Waite instead of having to go with Batch on him
That's an excellent post Chucky. :clapping
........None of that sense from you though. :shh
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Only Hardwick would think its a sound idea to put our 4th tall (batch) on their 1st/2nd tall, giving away 6cm and then wait 45 minutes to make a move.
Meanwhile, chaplain was trying to dance around NAhas and leaking goals.
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Chaplin was diabolical today..couldn't believe how bad
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Batchelor might try etc but he is simply out of his class and he represents the poor decision making abilities of our pathetic administration.
Spot on. He can't play simple as that. Pathetic that he was gifted 23 games this year. Was a shame in the end it cost us a final.
It wasn't batchelors fault we lost.....has been solid this year which is a lot more than spud Chaplin.
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He is poo. He is not a player that can match it in the big games. He is a liability and it stuck out today like the proverbials.
He didn't even stay with Waite and that cost us that crucial goal. Keep sticking up for these very average players in the team and keep accepting mediocrity. It's that simple.
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He is poo. He is not a player that can match it in the big games. He is a liability and it stuck out today like the proverbials.
He didn't even stay with Waite and that cost us that crucial goal. Keep sticking up for these very average players in the team and keep accepting mediocrity. It's that simple.
Your that simple
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Yes he was terrible but so were the other back 6 outside of Rance & Houli
But geez, what a terrible match up having him on Waite
He had a shocker but so did most of the side
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He is poo. He is not a player that can match it in the big games. He is a liability and it stuck out today like the proverbials.
He didn't even stay with Waite and that cost us that crucial goal. Keep sticking up for these very average players in the team and keep accepting mediocrity. It's that simple.
Your that simple
About as simple as you eh. Your just another one of the rose coloured glass crew.
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Without him who the hell is Chaplin going to point the finger and wave his arms at all the time??
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Yes he was terrible but so were the other back 6 outside of Rance & Houli
But geez, what a terrible match up having him on Waite
He had a shocker but so did most of the side
Two days ago you said he could play tall!!!! Well I haven't seen it yet and I sure as hell didn't see it today.
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He is poo. He is not a player that can match it in the big games. He is a liability and it stuck out today like the proverbials.
He didn't even stay with Waite and that cost us that crucial goal. Keep sticking up for these very average players in the team and keep accepting mediocrity. It's that simple.
Your that simple
About as simple as you eh. Your just another one of the rose coloured glass crew.
Sure I am. You pay as much attention to games (which we all know you don't go to) as you do to threads
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One truely poor game from Batch. Wasn't alone either but let's not let that get in the way of a good rant
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Well half the nuffers on here reckon he plays tall.....WTF I really mean WTF.
What do you reckon he plays then? If you honestly think he plays small...
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Not making excuses guys ,but whose idea was it for him to play on Waite a big key forward that's who I blame and has no idea on match up.Scott would have been laughing to the bank.
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Need Astbury and Elton to step up.
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Well half the nuffers on here reckon he plays tall.....WTF I really mean WTF.
What do you reckon he plays then? If you honestly think he plays small...
He just plays crap!
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Not making excuses guys ,but whose idea was it for him to play on Waite a big key forward that's who I blame and has no idea on match up.Scott would have been laughing to the bank.
And leave him there for almost 2 quarters to give North all the momentum and the edge on the game.
Well half the nuffers on here reckon he plays tall.....WTF I really mean WTF.
What do you reckon he plays then? If you honestly think he plays small...
He just plays crap!
We knew you wouldn't know the answer. Try getting to at least 1 game a year
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He is poo. He is not a player that can match it in the big games. He is a liability and it stuck out today like the proverbials.
He didn't even stay with Waite and that cost us that crucial goal. Keep sticking up for these very average players in the team and keep accepting mediocrity. It's that simple.
Your that simple
About as simple as you eh. Your just another one of the rose coloured glass crew.
Sure I am. You pay as much attention to games (which we all know you don't go to) as you do to threads
Give it up Dooks Batch is a dud. A monkey in the coaches box would have seen that yesterday that's how obvious it is.
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He is poo. He is not a player that can match it in the big games. He is a liability and it stuck out today like the proverbials.
He didn't even stay with Waite and that cost us that crucial goal. Keep sticking up for these very average players in the team and keep accepting mediocrity. It's that simple.
Your that simple
About as simple as you eh. Your just another one of the rose coloured glass crew.
Sure I am. You pay as much attention to games (which we all know you don't go to) as you do to threads
Give it up Dooks Batch is a dud. A monkey in the coaches box would have seen that yesterday that's how obvious it is.
:thumbsup :snidegrin :clapping
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Is putting your team mate under pressure with a poo hand pass, turning the ball over and not helping out your mates poor coaching. Face it, he is a plodder. He is another Morris list clogger and he has to go.
I'm not say he's Gary Albert
But Bach Is like 188
Why is he always playing on Jessie White or Waite? Bizarre
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Not making excuses guys ,but whose idea was it for him to play on Waite a big key forward that's who I blame and has no idea on match up.Scott would have been laughing to the bank.
And leave him there for almost 2 quarters to give North all the momentum and the edge on the game.
Well half the nuffers on here reckon he plays tall.....WTF I really mean WTF.
What do you reckon he plays then? If you honestly think he plays small...
He just plays crap!
We knew you wouldn't know the answer. Try getting to at least 1 game a year
Doesn't need to make it to a game or even watch it if he doesn't want to. But if that's the case he should refrain from commenting on it.
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He is poo. He is not a player that can match it in the big games. He is a liability and it stuck out today like the proverbials.
He didn't even stay with Waite and that cost us that crucial goal. Keep sticking up for these very average players in the team and keep accepting mediocrity. It's that simple.
Your that simple
About as simple as you eh. Your just another one of the rose coloured glass crew.
Sure I am. You pay as much attention to games (which we all know you don't go to) as you do to threads
Give it up Dooks Batch is a dud.
Most players would be when played out of position
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Wanted to congratulate Batch on a great year and a top 12 finish in the B&F. Massive improvement and solid defender.
:cheers :gotigers
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Only 23 . Will continue to improve over the next few years.
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We are truely rooted if this guy is one of our best 12 players. Stuff me
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Yep, he just plays crap
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Only 23 . Will continue to improve over the next few years.
Say that in te conca thread an see what happens
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Wanted to congratulate Batch on a great year and a top 12 finish in the B&F. Massive improvement and solid defender.
:cheers :gotigers
:chuck.......would not have been in the best 20 at any other team in the top 8. Shows the mediocrity the RCGG accepts.
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Wanted to congratulate Batch on a great year and a top 12 finish in the B&F. Massive improvement and solid defender.
:cheers :gotigers
:chuck.......would not have been in the best 20 at any other team in the top 8. Shows the mediocrity the RCGG accepts.
maybe, maybe not
bach is 23 and may improve one day
we still have grigg 28, thomas 29, gordon 26, chaplin 47 on the list whos room for improvement is little to none
do we not require some sort of prioritizing, before worrying about the younger age group?
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I think everyone should take a look at the " Rance thread " and have a look at the posts from 2011.
It's appears not too many rated our 2 time All Australian Jack Dyer winner . ( myself included)
Some of the comments made would embarrass quite a few of the " experts " on here. I would love to quote a few - but that may be considered baiting and is against forum rules.
Bachelor will never be spoken in the same breath as Rance ....but he was quite serviceable this year - just got exposed by a bloke 10 years older in the final.
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I think everyone should take a look at the " Rance thread " and have a look at the posts from 2011.
It's appears not too many rated our 2 time All Australian Jack Dyer winner . ( myself included)
Some of the comments made would embarrass quite a few of the " experts " on here. I would love to quote a few - but that may be considered baiting and is against forum rules.
Bachelor will never be spoken in the same breath as Rance ....but he was quite serviceable this year - just got exposed by a bloke 10 years older in the final.
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consistently being asked to play on 7 foot key forward or ruckman
cause the coaching team are bellends
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Wanted to congratulate Batch on a great year and a top 12 finish in the B&F. Massive improvement and solid defender.
:cheers :gotigers
:chuck.......would not have been in the best 20 at any other team in the top 8. Shows the mediocrity the RCGG accepts.
maybe, maybe not
bach is 23 and may improve one day
we still have grigg 28, thomas 29, gordon 26, chaplin 47 on the list whos room for improvement is little to none
do we not require some sort of prioritizing, before worrying about the younger age group?
That's good he is only 23, means we can keep him in the hope that he will improve in 7 years!!!
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Wanted to congratulate Batch on a great year and a top 12 finish in the B&F. Massive improvement and solid defender.
:cheers :gotigers
:chuck.......would not have been in the best 20 at any other team in the top 8. Shows the mediocrity the RCGG accepts.
maybe, maybe not
bach is 23 and may improve one day
we still have grigg 28, thomas 29, gordon 26, chaplin 47 on the list whos room for improvement is little to none
do we not require some sort of prioritizing, before worrying about the younger age group?
That's good he is only 23, means we can keep him in the hope that he will improve in 7 years!!!
to me, its somewhat similar to getting rid of astbury when the left over option is chaplin or elton ...
talk about putting the horse before the cart
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Put Batchelor in our backline against a tall opposition forward line and pick the weakest link...... it will always be Batchelor. NO HE DOES NOT PLAY TALL!!!!
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Put Batchelor in our backline against a tall opposition forward line and pick the weakest link...... it will always be Batchelor. NO HE DOES NOT PLAY TALL!!!!
i think the following is a fair question:
'why do the RFC coaching staff WANT (and continue to do like clockwork) to match up bach against the like of Waite (norf), J White (sydney/collingwood)
:huh :huh
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Well he out polled most others on our playing list, so he can't be consistently that bad.
I'll let the results from last night do the talking.
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in regards to my point
its not thats hes consistently bad
but the coaching staff seem to unnecessarily making his life harder
playing him against larger taller men
hes behind the eight ball from the get go
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Well he out polled most others on our playing list, so he can't be consistently that bad.
I'll let the results from last night do the talking.
Tells you a lot about our current list then doesn't it!!!
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Well he out polled most others on our playing list, so he can't be consistently that bad.
I'll let the results from last night do the talking.
Tells you a lot about our current list then doesn't it!!!
Who do you rate on our list? Rance?
Would you rate Rance if we played him in the ruck? Probably not.
So that about sums up your opinion on Batchelor.
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Well he out polled most others on our playing list, so he can't be consistently that bad.
I'll let the results from last night do the talking.
Tells you a lot about our current list then doesn't it!!!
Who do you rate on our list? Rance?
Would you rate Rance if we played him in the ruck? Probably not.
So that about sums up your opinion on Batchelor.
So it would seem :-\
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Well he out polled most others on our playing list, so he can't be consistently that bad.
I'll let the results from last night do the talking.
Tells you a lot about our current list then doesn't it!!!
Who do you rate on our list? Rance?
Would you rate Rance if we played him in the ruck? Probably not.
So that about sums up your opinion on Batchelor.
WTF re you on about?
Are you telling me we have the side to win us a GF.? That's about as silly as your question.
I don't rate: Batchelor, Grigg, Chaplin and really that's about it. I think Conca, B Ellis and Griff have trade value.
WTF are you talking about Rance in the ruck for. If you mean that Batch is too small to play on the taller forwards then why the stuff does Hardwick play him on them and why does the RCGG always go on about how tall he plays when he bloody doesn't.
Additionally, if he is too short to compliment the backline against the taller forward lines in the comp what is that telling you????????
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What's with all the ??????'s
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What's with all the ??????'s
What do you mean????????
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What's with all the ??????'s
What do you mean????????
:lol
nothing!!!!!!
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What's with all the ??????'s
What do you mean????????
:lol
nothing!!!!!!
Good ?!?!?!?!? :thumbsup
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Well he out polled most others on our playing list, so he can't be consistently that bad.
I'll let the results from last night do the talking.
Tells you a lot about our current list then doesn't it!!!
Who do you rate on our list? Rance?
Would you rate Rance if we played him in the ruck? Probably not.
So that about sums up your opinion on Batchelor.
WTF re you on about?
Are you telling me we have the side to win us a GF.? That's about as silly as your question.
I don't rate: Batchelor, Grigg, Chaplin and really that's about it. I think Conca, B Ellis and Griff have trade value.
WTF are you talking about Rance in the ruck for. If you mean that Batch is too small to play on the taller forwards then why the stuff does Hardwick play him on them and why does the RCGG always go on about how tall he plays when he bloody doesn't.
Additionally, if he is too short to compliment the backline against the taller forward lines in the comp what is that telling you????????
Haven't seen anybody talk him up as a tall defender. Just seen you trashing him for months on end. Most people think he is a serviceable player at the least, definitely much improved this year, and finishing 12th in the B&F (especially based on the new voting criteria) would support that.
My point is that your harshest criticism seems to be when Batch is costing us games because he's being played on blokes like Waite, conceding far too much height, weight and speed. So yeah, from that I gather you would be hating on players like Rance if he was stupidly played in the ruck when he has no right to be there.
Batch is a medium defender best used as a 3rd up/rebounding player. He plays this role well, did so consistently all year, and most people saw and appreciated that.
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Batch was serviceable to decent this year. His 13th place finish in the B&F shows that. He wasn't to blame for the EF loss. If we hadn't been smashed in the midfield (minus 35 in contested possies) then our defence wouldn't have been under siege especially after half-time. Gameplans may have become more sophisticated over time but footy hasn't changed as far as winning the midfield battle leads to winning the game. Our pathetic attack on the footy in the guts totally destroyed our ability to run and rebound and set up attacks off half-back. If you're going to play a Batchelor on someone like Waite then as coach you're banking on the midfield to stand up and do their job. If they are then defensively it makes delivery into North's forward line is slower and wider, enabling numbers to get back to support our defenders and eliminate isolated 1-on-1s. Then offensively, if the midfield is doing their job, the plan is mobile "third-tall" defenders like Batch can peel off and run forward (Waite is lazy defensively when things don't go his way). It's risk vs reward. However, we got smashed in the guts and we paid the price all over the park including Waite getting isolated 1-on-1s on Batch.
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Imo he had an ordinary season we should be getting so much more out of who ever it is we play in the role.
13TH in the B&F Why are people hanging their hats on that.. He is one of 14 players who played more than 20 games and he came 13th in the b&f.
Why are there always excuses for the players. He must have had a good year he came 13th in the B&F, Not his fault he plays on talls. Oh the midfield didnt help out enough,ffs stop the excuses.
It has always been the case and will always remain the case he doesnt have the attributes to play tall and he doesnt have the attributes to play small.He may well have the odd good game which will happen if you play 23 games in the season.
He is 188cm and 88kg. he should never be playing against key forwards a simple thing like his physical attributes says this it is not hard to see. The one area Batchelor should have it all over these tall players is pace and run and this just is not the case. He struggles to keep up with these types how the hell is he going to keep up with a quick nippy small.
People are kidding themselves if they think hes a good third up rebounding player. He just doesnt do enough of the key elements in this role.
He barely touches the ball most games how can you run and rebound if you dont have the ball. I would have thought an ave of 15 - 20 disposals a game is needed for the rebounding types.Also he doesnt often actually rebound the ball or run lines and get forward enough to deliver inside 50. All of these things he should be doing much more of.
For a third up type he is not doing enough in the air. 1% should be through the roof yet they are just ave.There are few contested marks and When the ball hits the ground there is little run and few tackles.
YES of course he has played some decent footy and he is one of few who will crack in but he will always struggle to be anything more than a reasonable player because he doesnt have the attributes to perform the role we ask of him.
I have long advocated we play McIntosh as that third up rebounding defender. He has height, pace, can run lines, has a good motor, lays crunching tackles, and gets his hands on the pill. He is no stranger to defense either he was a very good defender as a junior.Strong in the air and accountable.It may take a little while to get him up to speed as a defender but he is imo a far better option in the role than Batchelor.
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One thing I disagree with is he does run lines out of defence and gets up around the forward 50 but he just doesn't get used. Actually has a pretty decent workrate. Now, why they don't use him could be an entirely different issue
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One thing I disagree with is he does run lines out of defence and gets up around the forward 50 but he just doesn't get used. Actually has a pretty decent workrate. Now, why they don't use him could be an entirely different issue
Comments from a bloke who watches the game :thumbsup
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Nah I actually just made it up
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Inside Football have judged past weak draft years by basing them on who came out of post-#30 picks. 2010 was one of these weak drafts.
Interestingly enough, Batch is one of only seven players picked up post-pick 30 in that draft that is classed as a 'successful' selection.
31. Jake Batchelor (75 games)
33. Jeremy Howe (100)
40. Luke Parker (101)
41. Tom Liberatore (77) [F/S]
57. Alex Johnson (45)
66. Paul Puopolo (111)
76. Paul Seedsman (49)
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Parker.......
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Great - Batch pick was successful....until you get to Parker's name :banghead
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So, I turn on the TV, second qtr after listening on the radio and what do I hear...... "Regardless if this is a pre season game Jake Batchelor has to do better than that..... He kicked it out on the full... :snidegrin
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So, I turn on the TV, second qtr after listening on the radio and what do I hear...... "Regardless if this is a pre season game Jake Batchelor has to do better than that..... He kicked it out on the full... :snidegrin
Watch the full game. Has been serviceable
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So, I turn on the TV, second qtr after listening on the radio and what do I hear...... "Regardless if this is a pre season game Jake Batchelor has to do better than that..... He kicked it out on the full... :snidegrin
Watch the full game. Has been serviceable
4 possessions..... :huh....Brownlow form.
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Only played a half, looked pathetic....
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Hopefully he'll improve enough to be handy back up if Broad gets injured.
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Only played a half, looked pathetic....
:clapping :clapping
Is not the way forward, with him and Morris in the same team its a recipe for disaster.
Many showed him up last night. This will happen all year.
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didnt look in best 32
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Didn't look like he should play at that level.
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Bachelor is embarrassing himself and all of us!!!! Even the commentators said it, then he was dragged for the rest of the game.
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Didn't look like he should play at that level.
What's with the hate for Batch anyway? Seems a bit strong for simply thinking he's not in the best 22
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List Clogger! Goes to ground in every marking contest
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Batch tries his best and is usually a solid contributor.
The guys that pee me off most are the ones that keep on making stupid decisions. Conca for example with weight issues, punching guys in the back of the head. On top of that he turns the ball over.
Then there's Chaplin who does stupid things like trying to get around Nahas in the final.
at least Batch is disciplined and goes about his work in the right way. He might not always have a good game but he's honest.
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Bachelor is embarrassing himself and all of us!!!! Even the commentators said it, then he was dragged for the rest of the game.
He wasnt '"dragged" he was like a number of them last only ever going to play half a game
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Bachelor is embarrassing himself and all of us!!!! Even the commentators said it...
No they didn't actually
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Bachelor is embarrassing himself and all of us!!!! Even the commentators said it, then he was dragged for the rest of the game.
He wasnt '"dragged" he was like a number of them last only ever going to play half a game
Half a game for 4 possessions WHOA....
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Bachelor is embarrassing himself and all of us!!!! Even the commentators said it, then he was dragged for the rest of the game.
He wasnt '"dragged" he was like a number of them last only ever going to play half a game
Half a game for 4 possessions WHOA....
He didnt play well not disputing that (btw Vlastuin had About the same number off possessions but no comments on him) but you suggested he got didn't play the 2nd half because of the way he played and that is simply not true
Tnat was my point.
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Batchelor is not nearly close to good enough for AFL. He inevitably has one or more disastrous turnovers per game in situations that are unpressured. He is too small for his position and not quick enough for his size. He is a substantial liability and we will never be any good with decision makers like him and Conca in the side.
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Bachelor is embarrassing himself and all of us!!!! Even the commentators said it, then he was dragged for the rest of the game.
He wasnt '"dragged" he was like a number of them last only ever going to play half a game
Would have been OK with half a game rather than a non game
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Batchelor is not nearly close to good enough for AFL. He inevitably has one or more disastrous turnovers per game in situations that are unpressured. He is too small for his position and not quick enough for his size. He is a substantial liability and we will never be any good with decision makers like him and Conca in the side.
Please spend more time on this forum and in this thread.. :clapping...well said.
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Bachelor is embarrassing himself and all of us!!!! Even the commentators said it, then he was dragged for the rest of the game.
He wasnt '"dragged" he was like a number of them last only ever going to play half a game
Half a game for 4 possessions WHOA....
He didnt play well not disputing that (btw Vlastuin had About the same number off possessions but no comments on him) but you suggested he got didn't play the 2nd half because of the way he played and that is simply not true
Tnat was my point.
Well we don't really know that do we, maybe the plan was for him to play the full game but he was so crap they dragged him...so what is true?
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Has about 5-6 queuing up ready to take his spot
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Well we don't really know that do we, maybe the plan was for him to play the full game but he was so crap they dragged him...so what is true?
Actually we do know
I am telling you he along with a couple of others were only due to play half the game and that's what happened
Sorry if that debunks your theory
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Well we don't really know that do we, maybe the plan was for him to play the full game but he was so crap they dragged him...so what is true?
Actually we do know
I am telling you he along with a couple of others were only due to play half the game and that's what happened
Sorry if that debunks your theory
No, just confirming if it was in fact, fact, so how do we know this is fact? ;D
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Ship high in transit
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how crap is this guy
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How poor did Batch play yesterday? Possibly his worst game. A shadow of his in form and solid 2015.
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Offers NOTHING!
Can't defend, can't get enough of the football.
A Nothing Player.
Should not be in the 22!
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Going backwards at a rate of knots
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IMO Jake is in about the 24 to 26 mark on our list. Which is fine because you need players that can come in and do a job when needed but if he is starting most weeks we are still a middling side.
I think what it shows is our depth is getting more like a top 4 club.
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Batch out. Yarran in (when ready).
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Batch out. Yarran in (when ready).
Spatchelor out. Anyone else in. Stuffin VFA level spud
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Batch out. Yarran in (when ready).
Spatchelor out. Anyone else in. Stuffin VFA level spud
Need to be a bit more classy than that.
I can tell you Batch is a man of integrity as opposed to yourself. Be a man.
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Another pathetic game. How slow is he!!!!! Old mate outrun him easily, resulted in a goal.
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How poor did Batch play yesterday? Possibly his worst game. A shadow of his in form and solid 2015.
LOL.
Lasy year was the same as his first.A nothing player who in typical richmond fashion we just keep on persevering with. FFS Collingwood just traded out a player in seedsman who was infinitely better than Batchelor.
We just have to do better weather its a tall role or a medium role. He just does not consistently offer enough in either capacity and that has been obvious for yrs.He clearly does not have the attributes to perform either role CONSISTENTLY well.
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Seedsman wanted out.
Bit different
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Seedsman wanted out.
Bit different
Fair enough.
but look at what they had/have there waiting for a go. Maynard, Ramsay, Langdon, Oxley, Williams all of them younger all of them better options with better attributes than Batchelor imo.
Maybe Seedsman could see the writing on the wall.
When you look at these players and where Collingwood got them from it really shows how easy it should be to upgrade on deficient players like Batchelor.
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Should have picked Luke Parker
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We could have had Fyfe
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We could have had Fyfe
And Pavlich :snidegrin
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And...we have Batch... :facepalm
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And...we have Batch... :facepalm
HHHAAARRRRRGGGGGGGHHHHHHHHHHHH golden.
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Good luck Batch. :thumbsup
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Slow. Can't chase and go and look at that pathetic attempt at a front on girly bump with 1.30 to go in the third qtr that resulted in a Melbourme goal!!!!
Get him out!!!!!
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Only a stuffen moron would pick this guy in the seniors
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6 possessions with a pathetic display. Not up to it at all, can't be considered part of this team from this point on.
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Morris like
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45/55 for Batchlor tonight ;D
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Another match losing performance, 5 possessions, wow, no doubt the RCGG will be saying he did his job.. :snidegrin
How much longer can this flogger stay in the team. Get serious RFC, get him and Morris out. Even Hampson got more possessions, Batch was the lowest possession gatherer on the ground.
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I thought he played a reasonable defensive game. You dont need all your backs to rack up masses of possessions to do their role.
If we are serious about change and exploring the depth in our list he should be given at least a stretch of games. When this was done last year he gelled quite well and actually played good football.
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I thought he played a reasonable defensive game. You dont need all your backs to rack up masses of possessions to do a role.
Sorry, if he is the answer we are stuffed!! He didn't do a job on anyone mate, he just got his 5 and that was it, what job did he do??
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WAT
Serious question.
Who do you think Batch played on and furthermore, what impact did that player have for Hawthorn.
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Let me pre empt this by WATs replay of "I don't stuffing care he had the lowest possessions and is crap".
It may be in capitals.
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WAT
Serious question.
Who do you think Batch played on and furthermore, what impact did that player have for Hawthorn.
"I don't stuffing care he had the lowest possessions and is crap".
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Played a solid game Batch. Certainly puts his balls on the line more than guys like Houli, Ellis, Vickery etc
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Dang I missed the color
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Played a solid game Batch. Certainly puts his balls on the line more than guys like Houli, Ellis, Vickery etc
:facepalm...
Here we go, this is another example of why we will never progress. Every game people accept these players and every year they are still in the team going through the motions every game.... :help
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Played a solid game Batch. Certainly puts his balls on the line more than guys like Houli, Ellis, Vickery etc
:facepalm...
Here we go, this is another example of why we will never progress. Every game people accept these players and every year they are still in the team going through the motions every game.... :help
from the players that played last night
is bachelor the first that needs to be dropped?
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Played a solid game Batch. Certainly puts his balls on the line more than guys like Houli, Ellis, Vickery etc
:facepalm...
Here we go, this is another example of why we will never progress. Every game people accept these players and every year they are still in the team going through the motions every game.... :help
from the players that played last night
is bachelor the first that needs to be dropped?
Yep, him and Morris, have we done any better since they came in??? Play Elton instead or is Morris and Batch the future??
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Played a solid game Batch. Certainly puts his balls on the line more than guys like Houli, Ellis, Vickery etc
:facepalm...
Here we go, this is another example of why we will never progress. Every game people accept these players and every year they are still in the team going through the motions every game.... :help
from the players that played last night
is bachelor the first that needs to be dropped?
Yep, him and Morris, have we done any better since they came in??? Play Elton instead or is Morris and Batch the future??
It seems like you dont watch much of the game, then just log in the morning after, check the stats and if they are on the lowish side for certaon players, make the assumption they are the worst players in the team.
On the logic of stats, youd believe B Ellis is a god.
And for the record i reckon Morris was reasonable last night.
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Take the stats out of it, he still does nothing and Ellis is crap, that the problem, we have a team full of crap and that includes Morris, Batch and Ellis.
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WAT has to be the worst judge of anything football related I have ever seen
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WAT has to be the worst judge of anything football related I have ever seen
To be honest:-
WAT gets a bee in his bonnet with certain players and once hes made his mind up its really hard for him to be rational.
Jackstar makes some pretty terrible off the mark calls.
Whats worse were the posters who thought our list was in good shape for so many years.
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Morris is good at falling over.
Keep him.
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WAT has to be the worst judge of anything football related I have ever seen
To be honest:-
WAT gets a bee in his bonnet with certain players and once hes made his mind up its really hard for him to be rational.
Jackstar makes some pretty terrible off the mark calls.
Whats worse were the posters who thought our list was in good shape for so many years.
In some of those posters defense, I think a lot were okay with the list if the top up players served their purpose but were moved on when that had passed and younger players were given a shot. I think they underestimated how many battlers would be given games over the past 1-2 years at the expense of the kids. Then there were (and still are - more so in other mediums) some people in la la land
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Well I think he is poo too.
You could put up with him not contributing anything on the rebound if he was a solid defender, but he is not. He is a midsize defender that struggles with small and talls. He simple isn't agile enough for a 188cm player.
He may not be as bad as Houli or Beliis but that still is not good enough.
Just my 2cents.
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I thought he was OK not great by any stretch ubt OK.
Loved that pinpoint pass in the first and that second effort tackle that resulted in a free in the final ...pity a few others refuse to offer first effrots defensively let only 2nd efforts
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Played a solid game Batch. Certainly puts his balls on the line more than guys like Houli, Ellis, Vickery etc
:facepalm...
Here we go, this is another example of why we will never progress. Every game people accept these players and every year they are still in the team going through the motions every game.... :help
Crap post WAT.
I don't 'accept' Batchelor as being anything more than a C-grade player, but the reality is our list is in deep poo and he definitely wasn't in our worst handful last night. He did more good things than bad for sure.
Yes he shouldn't be on our list, and won't be top 22 for any contending team, but based on what we're seeing this year he isn't one of the blokes who should be dominating the spotlight for performance.
Neither is Morris for that matter. Another average footballer who is consistently putting in more effort than some of his more talented team mates.
It's guys like Houli, Grigg, Vickery, B. Ellis etc who aren't performing to their potential and putting their nuts on the line. That doesn't mean Morris and Batchelor should stay on our list but honestly with the depth issues we have at the moment they're a damned sight better than those four.
List needs an overhaul but based on playing ability guys like Batch and Morris are performing better than the likes of them.
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Well said
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Well said
What can I say mate I was actually at the damned game.
I wanted to jump the fence and stuffing smash Vickery, Griffiths and B Ellis for being so god damned SOFT and LAZY.
Certainly couldn't say that about Batch or Morris.
And to ice the cake it was the 'Coming Home' night for Jake King. FMD if ever there was a lovable average footballer who was tougher than he had any right to be he was the man. Disproportionately strong given his physique, uncompromisingly brave, and gave his proverbial 110% every damned week.
We miss guys like Tuck and Jackson so badly, but honestly we were a better side with guys like King and even (F me for saying it) Chris Newman down the backline would be nice these days because at least you know he'd go back with the flight and kick the damned ball well.
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No matter how badly we play, I'll never miss Hackson or Newman....a momentum-killing dumbarse and Captain Unaccountable...
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Bachelor is not perfect but he's not as poor as the list blockers
I have him in the middle c graders group. With Lloyd. Short. Types
Bachelor is fortunate Richmond lack of natural defensive players as certainly a a lack of lock down mid / smalls.
talls too lol, this is why is often used by mr "I sit in the box but I can't remember what happened' ardwick to play on resting ruckman
I agree we carry a huge percentage of soft players on game day
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Trade or delist, not the future end of story.
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Trade or delist, not the future end of story.
You promise?
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l still stand by Batchlor. l have seen him do many good things while at games when the team is going well. Many of you Don't see that on TV. He don't take the best forward but he does try & is a good kick among other things. His not at his best at present as they are all down, But there is a huge amount of pressure on him when your key defenders are down or out injured. The Hawks have a solid forward line of stars & we are 10 steps behind them as a premiership contender. When Rance, Grimes, Conca, Vlaustin, are all in the backline they all lift each other. A knee injury has just added to our season problems but to dish it out on him when he played ok is not aceptable. Wake up people our club is in turmoil on & off the field. There are many problems down at Tigerland.
:gotigers
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Could be part of a very solid future back 6. Solid competitor and decent kick.
Jason Torney 2.0
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Played a solid game Batch. Certainly puts his balls on the line more than guys like Houli, Ellis, Vickery etc
:facepalm...
Here we go, this is another example of why we will never progress. Every game people accept these players and every year they are still in the team going through the motions every game.... :help
from the players that played last night
is bachelor the first that needs to be dropped?
Yep, him and Morris, have we done any better since they came in??? Play Elton instead or is Morris and Batch the future??
It seems like you dont watch much of the game, then just log in the morning after, check the stats and if they are on the lowish side for certaon players, make the assumption they are the worst players in the team.
On the logic of stats, youd believe B Ellis is a god.
And for the record i reckon Morris was reasonable last night.
Funny how people see things different. I thought Morris again tried hard, gave his all but was basically horrid. If his errors didnt cost at least 4 goals i will go heave.
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Played a solid game Batch. Certainly puts his balls on the line more than guys like Houli, Ellis, Vickery etc
:facepalm...
Here we go, this is another example of why we will never progress. Every game people accept these players and every year they are still in the team going through the motions every game.... :help
from the players that played last night
is bachelor the first that needs to be dropped?
Yep, him and Morris, have we done any better since they came in??? Play Elton instead or is Morris and Batch the future??
It seems like you dont watch much of the game, then just log in the morning after, check the stats and if they are on the lowish side for certaon players, make the assumption they are the worst players in the team.
On the logic of stats, youd believe B Ellis is a god.
And for the record i reckon Morris was reasonable last night.
Funny how people see things different. I thought Morris again tried hard, gave his all but was basically horrid. If his errors didnt cost at least 4 goals i will go heave.
I was at the game. Pretty fair summary of his performance.
Tries his guts out but just isn't good enough....
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What has changed with Batchelor over the years? Answer is absolutely nothing.
Like a lot of our players he has his good moments. In the main he struggles because he just lacks the pace and agility to play sml and he is torn apart because of a lack of height size and for want of a better way of saying it leap to play tall.
He defends okay at times but mostly struggles. he sometimes provides a bit of run but mostly it doesnt happen.
It was evident from day one and it remains evident 6 years later. 6 freakin years and still people argue about his worth. It is true you know it is indeed madness to do the same things over and over and expect different results.
At the end of the year he would be one of the first i would look to trade/delist maybe we can get a late pick for him Someone is bound to think they can turn him around.
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What has changed with Batchelor over the years? Answer is absolutely nothing.
Like a lot of our players he has his good moments. In the main he struggles because he just lacks the pace and agility to play sml and he is torn apart because of a lack of height size and for want of a better way of saying it leap to play tall.
He defends okay at times but mostly struggles. he sometimes provides a bit of run but mostly it doesnt happen.
It was evident from day one and it remains evident 6 years later. 6 freakin years and still people argue about his worth. It is true you know it is indeed madness to do the same things over and over and expect different results.
At the end of the year he would be one of the first i would look to trade/delist maybe we can get a late pick for him Someone is bound to think they can turn him around.
Claw you are on a roll. :clapping
Agree totally.
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Played a solid game Batch. Certainly puts his balls on the line more than guys like Houli, Ellis, Vickery etc
:facepalm...
Here we go, this is another example of why we will never progress. Every game people accept these players and every year they are still in the team going through the motions every game.... :help
from the players that played last night
is bachelor the first that needs to be dropped?
Yep, him and Morris, have we done any better since they came in??? Play Elton instead or is Morris and Batch the future??
It seems like you dont watch much of the game, then just log in the morning after, check the stats and if they are on the lowish side for certaon players, make the assumption they are the worst players in the team.
On the logic of stats, youd believe B Ellis is a god.
And for the record i reckon Morris was reasonable last night.
Funny how people see things different. I thought Morris again tried hard, gave his all but was basically horrid. If his errors didnt cost at least 4 goals i will go heave.
I was at the game. Pretty fair summary of his performance.
Tries his guts out but just isn't good enough....
Did some effective attacking things (maybe two) but yes is generally very average like Batchelor and won't be 'the future'.
But what people like WAT should try to comprehend is that 'the future' isn't going to happen mid-season. We can't address these list issues until after the finals so playing C-grade players who invest 100% effort is a better option than watching guys like Houli and Chaplin who don't even try anymore despite being B-grade players at their best.
Play the kids and the blokes who put in effort, drop the oldies.
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When rance is back add Yarran then add a Hurley, hopefully Ashbury can continue to develop maybe bachelor keeps a spot as the extra gap filler. Then it kinda resembles something we need.
Problem right now is injuries, form and just plain shitness the c graders are getting shown for what they are, just that!
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Hurley - Rance - Grimes
Yarran - XXX - XXX
That looks nice to me. Grimes can play mid/small, Yarran can play small/rebounder, but we're still short two quality defenders IMO. Need another rebounder and possibly another strong KPD around 190/90+. McIntosh fits the profile but I think his best football is on the wing personally...
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Yarran. lmao
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Hurley - Rance - Grimes
Yarran - XXX - XXX
That looks nice to me. Grimes can play mid/small, Yarran can play small/rebounder, but we're still short two quality defenders IMO. Need another rebounder and possibly another strong KPD around 190/90+. McIntosh fits the profile but I think his best football is on the wing personally...
l honestly think McIntosh is a bit dumb in the way he goes about his football at the moment. You are spot on that he is playing out of position. In fact l think several players are playing out of position at present trying to be gap fillers. This is where Hardwick fails in blooding new players & finding a elite talent. You keep your players in their positions & stick to the game plan.
Bring someone totally new into the team to find the next elite player capable of taking on the level required. Some of the best players in the AFL were found by chance. l have seen some absolute stars in the game who were trash at a lower level. Take a look at Dane Swan he was not any top 20 draft pick. In fact if l remember right he was not in the top 50 picks that year. Absolute star of the game. Richmond are too scared to take them chances & play them for 3 to 4 rounds. Let someone settle their nerves & excitment for a few weeks. Elton could be that player. McBean McKenzie could be anyone of them. When the Tigers are playing well, Batchlor is a very capable & damaging player. Yarran on one wing & McIntosh on the other
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Stick him in the middle and see how he goes :shh
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Then after that on the half forward line
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Then we can have the satisfaction of putting him in the HB line again
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WAT
Serious question.
Who do you think Batch played on and furthermore, what impact did that player have for Hawthorn.
"I don't stuffing care he had the lowest possessions and is crap".
In other words
"I have no idea who Batch played on and whether he was effective in nullifying his impact."
I would have thought that stopping an opposition forward would be a good start for batch.
Keep on researching :wallywink
And might I add, I'm not a Batch fan, so don't start up like a lunatic like normal. It's just I reckon you get your blinkers on and it becomes like a deranged juvenile with a weird vendetta.
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Must be traded or de-listed, not the way forward.. :snidegrin
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That would just increase the likely hood of castagna getting moved to half back......
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Well thats the Richmond way, all players need to play off half back..
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just out of curiosity, from what you have seen of him so, what position suits castagna best?
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just out of curiosity, from what you have seen of him so, what position suits castagna best?
Nice try but you won't get an answer. Avoids the straight forward questions does WAT. Too hard to answer in rhetoric dribble without it being easy to call out
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perhaps he's realised it is better to be quiet and thought a fool rather than having a say and proving it?
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Here they come..... :snidegrin
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...maybe not.
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:lol
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just out of curiosity, from what you have seen of him so, what position suits castagna best?
Nice try but you won't get an answer. Avoids the straight forward questions does WAT. Too hard to answer in rhetoric dribble without it being easy to call out
Just sig this next time Penelope, so you don't forget
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I thought he had another good game. Is building form nicely to the point where he is without doubt in our best back 6.
Two things Batch does really well stood out last night. He reads the play quite well. At least twice i saw him come off his man and take a mark (contested) against another Sydney player. He did this another few times for the spoil and second efforts. You dont get tjat from your Houli, B Ellis and Conca types.
Its also pretty clear he knows to kick it long even if he has easier short of sideways options.
Finally wanted to say hes very vocal with the boys when after a goal he and Rance are telling the others how to structure up.
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Went ok early, but then just drifted in and out to much.
Average game at best IMO.
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Average game at best IMO.
Means he had a ripper when you account for WAT bias
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Went ok early, but then just drifted in and out to much.
Average game at best IMO.
Your kidding mate. Try watching the game and i dont mean watching 2 quarters on tv and checking the stats afterwards.
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Went ok early, but then just drifted in and out to much.
Average game at best IMO.
Your kidding mate. Try watching the game and i dont mean watching 2 quarters on tv and checking the stats afterwards.
:lol :clapping
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I reckon if Batch is rarely noticed then he has had a good game. He's not there for high stat numbers.
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I reckon if Batch is rarely noticed then he has had a good game. He's not there for high stat numbers.
Someone that actually knows what they're talking about :clapping
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I reckon if Batch is rarely noticed then he has had a good game. He's not there for high stat numbers.
Someone that actually knows what they're talking about :clapping
Oh yea, right onto it.....McBean..... :help
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just out of curiosity, from what you have seen of him so, what position suits castagna best?
Nice try but you won't get an answer. Avoids the straight forward questions does WAT. Too hard to answer in rhetoric dribble without it being easy to call out
He was ok. No more no less.
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just out of curiosity, from what you have seen of him so, what position suits castagna best?
Nice try but you won't get an answer. Avoids the straight forward questions does WAT. Too hard to answer in rhetoric dribble without it being easy to call out
He was ok. No more no less.
Someone that actually knows what they're talking about :clapping
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I reckon if Batch is rarely noticed then he has had a good game. He's not there for high stat numbers.
Someone that actually knows what they're talking about :clapping
Oh yea, right onto it.....McBean..... :help
Oh yeah, so how much of the VFL (and McBean) have you seen? No one disputes he can kick a goal, only a truly idiotic person would think that's what people are saying. It's the other stuff but since you watch so much of him I'm sure you know what we're talking about
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:facepalm
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I reckon if Batch is rarely noticed then he has had a good game. He's not there for high stat numbers.
Someone that actually knows what they're talking about :clapping
Oh yea, right onto it.....McBean..... :help
Oh yeah, so how much of the VFL (and McBean) have you seen? No one disputes he can kick a goal, only a truly idiotic person would think that's what people are saying. It's the other stuff but since you watch so much of him I'm sure you know what we're talking about
The game is called football
The point of it is to kick goals
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Great wisdom there Stalin, let's throw in all the plonkers then! Let's dismiss all defensive pressure and implement WAT's gameplan of everyone playing forward of centre.
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Great wisdom there Stalin, let's throw in all the plonkers then! Let's dismiss all defensive pressure and implement WAT's gameplan of everyone playing forward of centre.
Wake up...I have never ever said play everyone forward have I so stop making your usual poo up. But many many here have said about just about every players playing back to learn their defensive game....wake up will you. :help
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Great wisdom there Stalin, let's throw in all the plonkers then! Let's dismiss all defensive pressure and implement WAT's gameplan of everyone playing forward of centre.
Yet, not all the plonkers, kicked four goals yesterday. Nor have won Vfl goal kicking awards
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I reckon if Batch is rarely noticed then he has had a good game. He's not there for high stat numbers.
Someone that actually knows what they're talking about :clapping
Oh yea, right onto it.....McBean..... :help
Oh yeah, so how much of the VFL (and McBean) have you seen? No one disputes he can kick a goal, only a truly idiotic person would think that's what people are saying. It's the other stuff but since you watch so much of him I'm sure you know what we're talking about
I wouldn't bother anymore. The stats in isolation crew can't see we have VFL version of Vickery on our hands.
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I reckon if Batch is rarely noticed then he has had a good game. He's not there for high stat numbers.
Someone that actually knows what they're talking about :clapping
Oh yea, right onto it.....McBean..... :help
Oh yeah, so how much of the VFL (and McBean) have you seen? No one disputes he can kick a goal, only a truly idiotic person would think that's what people are saying. It's the other stuff but since you watch so much of him I'm sure you know what we're talking about
I wouldn't bother anymore. The stats in isolation crew can't see we have VFL version of Vickery on our hands.
when ive watched mcbean at training he looks like daicos kicking them from the canteen left footed
as far as stats goes goals are a fairly important one
in a similar way to how rioli has greatly benefited from playing next to jack mcbean would to
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I reckon if Batch is rarely noticed then he has had a good game. He's not there for high stat numbers.
Someone that actually knows what they're talking about :clapping
Oh yea, right onto it.....McBean..... :help
Oh yeah, so how much of the VFL (and McBean) have you seen? No one disputes he can kick a goal, only a truly idiotic person would think that's what people are saying. It's the other stuff but since you watch so much of him I'm sure you know what we're talking about
I wouldn't bother anymore. The stats in isolation crew can't see we have VFL version of Vickery on our hands.
...and those of us who've actually seen him in more than just the odd game here and there, know he's a real talent with a far higher ceiling than Vickery, realise he's a good 5 years younger than Vickery and could be anything , as, I suspect, do the four top clubs that are after him.... :shh
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was good yesterday, kinda like griff needs consistency of effort.
I would give him a game in front of pink knickers vickers for a few weeks, why not I say!
Oh we are talking mc Bean here in the Batch thread?
Just checking
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I reckon if Batch is rarely noticed then he has had a good game. He's not there for high stat numbers.
Someone that actually knows what they're talking about :clapping
Oh yea, right onto it.....McBean..... :help
Oh yeah, so how much of the VFL (and McBean) have you seen? No one disputes he can kick a goal, only a truly idiotic person would think that's what people are saying. It's the other stuff but since you watch so much of him I'm sure you know what we're talking about
I wouldn't bother anymore. The stats in isolation crew can't see we have VFL version of Vickery on our hands.
...and those of us who've actually seen him in more than just the odd game here and there, know he's a real talent with a far higher ceiling than Vickery, realise he's a good 5 years younger than Vickery and could be anything , as, I suspect, do the four top clubs that are after him.... :shh
:clapping
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I reckon if Batch is rarely noticed then he has had a good game. He's not there for high stat numbers.
Someone that actually knows what they're talking about :clapping
Oh yea, right onto it.....McBean..... :help
Oh yeah, so how much of the VFL (and McBean) have you seen? No one disputes he can kick a goal, only a truly idiotic person would think that's what people are saying. It's the other stuff but since you watch so much of him I'm sure you know what we're talking about
I wouldn't bother anymore. The stats in isolation crew can't see we have VFL version of Vickery on our hands.
...and those of us who've actually seen him in more than just the odd game here and there, know he's a real talent with a far higher ceiling than Vickery, realise he's a good 5 years younger than Vickery and could be anything , as, I suspect, do the four top clubs that are after him.... :shh
I agree on some points and not on others. He does have talent but like Vickery, he does not seem to utilize it. Some people see Bean more than I do, I grant that, but some of those report the same feelings I have about him.
I hope he does make it, I hope he passes Vickery who frustrates the hell out of me but I am not holding my breath waiting.
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Fill in player at best, can't chase and can't do much else, is not the future and needs to go at the end of the year.
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Fill in player at best, can't chase and can't do much else, is not the future and needs to go at the end of the year.
Try getting to a few games and not watching a quater on TV plus stats.
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Fill in player at best, can't chase and can't do much else, is not the future and needs to go at the end of the year.
Rubbish his game was solid last week
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Fill in player at best, can't chase and can't do much else, is not the future and needs to go at the end of the year.
Try getting to a few games and not watching a quater on TV plus stats.
:clapping exactly watching tv you see nothing whats really going on.
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No as good as Hampsons. Need to start shopping him around now, don't get caught up the hype of one good game, will be a mile off the pace next year, list clogger.
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No as good as Hampsons. Need to start shopping him around now, don't get caught up the hype of one good game, will be a mile off the pace next year, list clogger.
Incorrect.
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Washed up fill in player that must move on.
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Washed up fill in player that must move on.
A mid sized no fuss player who usually succeeds in lockinng his player down, reads the play well and brings continuity to the back 6, without being a superstar. Best 22
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(http://memecreator.org/static/images/memes/4033206.jpg)
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:lol :lol :lol
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Washed up fill in player that must move on.
A mid sized no fuss player who usually succeeds in lockinng his player down, reads the play well and brings continuity to the back 6, without being a superstar. Best 22
Wouldn't even get a game at GCS.
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Not much better hating Batch but rating Hampson :lol :lol
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Here she is. Many more are rating Hampson than Batchelor, but hey, what would the masses know over the one self confessed know it all. :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol
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Lol if you think Hammer is the answer.
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Lol if you think Batchelor is the answer.
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Yeahbott & Watstello:
(http://media-2.web.britannica.com/eb-media/17/66017-004-B1C390B5.jpg)
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It's funny cause we actually do live together
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Like FFF we do. You would be in a box by now if we did.
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Like FFF we do. You would be in a box by now if we did.
:lol
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We share a bed :cuddles. But nothing more! >:(
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We share a bed :cuddles. But nothing more! >:(
You wish!!
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Like FFF we do. You would be in a box by now if we did.
I must admit I like reading your stuff WA. A very passionate Tiger.
Happy to get into a stouch but with little idea on anything football. But still having a go.
You remind me of a mate of mine. :thumbsup
The Aussie way.
(No offence intended, seriously :cheers)
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Like FFF we do. You would be in a box by now if we did.
I must admit I like reading your stuff WA. A very passionate Tiger.
Happy to get into a stouch but with little idea on anything football. But still having a go.
You remind me of a mate of mine. :thumbsup
The Aussie way.
(No offence intended, seriously :cheers)
:lol nothing wrong with a bogan
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Like FFF we do. You would be in a box by now if we did.
I must admit I like reading your stuff WA. A very passionate Tiger.
Happy to get into a stouch but with little idea on anything football. But still having a go.
You remind me of a mate of mine. :thumbsup
The Aussie way.
(No offence intended, seriously :cheers)
Like that loveable guy at the pizza shop with no teeth and hslf a blanket
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Like FFF we do. You would be in a box by now if we did.
I must admit I like reading your stuff WA. A very passionate Tiger.
Happy to get into a stouch but with little idea on anything football. But still having a go.
You remind me of a mate of mine. :thumbsup
The Aussie way.
(No offence intended, seriously :cheers)
Like that loveable guy at the pizza shop with no teeth and hslf a blanket
That made me laugh :thumbsup
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Like FFF we do. You would be in a box by now if we did.
I must admit I like reading your stuff WA. A very passionate Tiger.
Happy to get into a stouch but with little idea on anything football. But still having a go.
You remind me of a mate of mine. :thumbsup
The Aussie way.
(No offence intended, seriously :cheers)
And the rest on this forum?? The experts?? Where do you fit in then?
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I reckon most of the posters here who have been saying how shot our list is over the last couple of years are as close to experts as you will see on this site.
And I would include in that list
Yours Truly
Oxy
Diocletian
Tigeritis
Angus Hampson
Stalin
I also reckon (off the top of my head) WP, Unplugged, Tony Montana, Big Tone, Eat em Alive, AndyY, DCrane and Loui Tufga generally get it right and are pretty switched on.
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I reckon most of the posters here who have been saying how shot our list is over the last couple of years are as close to experts as you will see on this site.
And I would include in that list
Yours Truly
Oxy
Diocletian
Tigeritis
Angus Hampson
Stalin
I also reckon (off the top of my head) WP, Unplugged, Tony Montana, Big Tone, Eat em Alive, AndyY, DCrane and Loui Tufga generally get it right and are pretty switched on.
Some questionable inclusions in there :lol
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I reckon most of the posters here who have been saying how shot our list is over the last couple of years are as close to experts as you will see on this site.
And I would include in that list
Yours Truly
Oxy
Diocletian
Tigeritis
Angus Hampson
Stalin
I also reckon (off the top of my head) WP, Unplugged, Tony Montana, Big Tone, Eat em Alive, AndyY, DCrane and Loui Tufga generally get it right and are pretty switched on.
Some questionable inclusions in there :lol
We must be the uber experts mate as we are not even listed! :lol
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I reckon most of the posters here who have been saying how shot our list is over the last couple of years are as close to experts as you will see on this site.
And I would include in that list
Yours Truly
Oxy
Diocletian
Tigeritis
Angus Hampson
Stalin
I also reckon (off the top of my head) WP, Unplugged, Tony Montana, Big Tone, Eat em Alive, AndyY, DCrane and Loui Tufga generally get it right and are pretty switched on.
Some questionable inclusions in there :lol
We must be the uber experts mate as we are not even listed! :lol
Legends in your own lunchbox you two ;D
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I reckon most of the posters here who have been saying how shot our list is over the last couple of years are as close to experts as you will see on this site.
And I would include in that list
Yours Truly
Oxy
Diocletian
Tigeritis
Angus Hampson
Stalin
I also reckon (off the top of my head) WP, Unplugged, Tony Montana, Big Tone, Eat em Alive, AndyY, DCrane and Loui Tufga generally get it right and are pretty switched on.
Some questionable inclusions in there :lol
We must be the uber experts mate as we are not even listed! :lol
Legends in your own lunchbox you two ;D
You haven't seen the size of our lunch boxes! ;D
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Dooks has had plenty of lunch in my box.
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:lol
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Well done Batch, front on contact free....
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Nice set up for our first goal
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Well done Vickery.
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Well done Vickery.
Vickery fumble, coastvto coast and Essendon goal
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Can't kick on both sides of his body.... :help
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OOF...... :bow
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OOF...... :bow
That was Grimes
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OOF...... :bow
That was Grimes
It's all Batchelors doing
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OOF...... :bow
That was Grimes
It's all Batchelors doing
Nope
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He has let the last 3 Bombers goals through, him and Morris, they always go missing...
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He has let the last 3 Bombers goals through, him and Morris, they always go missing...
Nope has not cost us a single goal.
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Where has he gone, him and Morris went to the pie stand 18 minutes into that qtr...
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Jake Batchelor has won three intercept possessions with two of them launching goals for his team.
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Jake Batchelor has won three intercept possessions with two of them launching goals for his team.
Correct but probably cost us at least 3 goals with his clangers. His ball drop is a lottery how it hits his boot, terrible technique for an AFL player.
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A couple of skill errors but overall a good game. 20 possessions Nd was involved in setting up a number of coastd to coasts.
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A couple of skill errors but overall a good game. 20 possessions Nd was involved in setting up a number of coastd to coasts.
Couple of his skill errors might be generous but it was good seeing him get involved offensively. Reminded me that when he was drafted he was was an attacking/ intercepting hb. 20 poss must be close to a career high.
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A couple of skill errors but overall a good game. 20 possessions Nd was involved in setting up a number of coastd to coasts.
Couple of his skill errors might be generous but it was good seeing him get involved offensively. Reminded me that when he was drafted he was was an attacking/ intercepting hb. 20 poss must be close to a career high.
I thought the skill errors were pretty poor and stood out as a result (that OOF for example) but there werent many and overall he had a good game as you say
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His kicking technique is badly flawed but at least he is trying to create something which is a positive. I remember back to the dreamtime game some years back when he started and he started an attack from half back and after a chain of handballs he kept running to receive the ball back and then delivered to a leading player inside 50. Really thought he was going to be something moving forward but like alot of our 2nd tier players he has plateued performance wise for longer than he should.
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Trade
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Trade
x2
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Trade
x2
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Typical Richmond plodder - does 3 or 4 poor things for every good thing he does ...
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Typical Richmond plodder - does 3 or 4 poor things for every good thing he does ...
That's the problem we have too many of them.
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no one would take him, delist. Lozza I rated batch when we first drafted him, dont feel we developed him correctly though - should never have tried to bulk him up and turn him into a 3rd tall, should have always worked on his agility and speed which was subpar (always had the body strength). Unfortunately its too late now. The quicker Broad comes on the better off we'll be
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Quicker, taller broad
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should have always worked on his agility and speed
We did but unlike body size and strength, it changes very little if you're lucky
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should have always worked on his agility and speed
We did but unlike body size and strength, it changes very little if you're lucky
no we didnt - for 2-3 preseason we worked on bulking him up to make him a 3rd tall, when the penny dropped it was too late especially when youre talking about someone not blessed in this area.
You cant become Usain Bolt but you can see significant improvements especially off the mark if you train specific to it
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should have always worked on his agility and speed
We did but unlike body size and strength, it changes very little if you're lucky
no we didnt - for 2-3 preseason we worked on bulking him up to make him a 3rd tall, when the penny dropped it was too late especially when youre talking about someone not blessed in this area.
You cant become Usain Bolt but you can see significant improvements especially off the mark if you train specific to it
Like every player coming out of the draft the aim is to bulk them up, but Batch did have a particular emphasis on working on speed and agility.
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should have always worked on his agility and speed
We did but unlike body size and strength, it changes very little if you're lucky
no we didnt - for 2-3 preseason we worked on bulking him up to make him a 3rd tall, when the penny dropped it was too late especially when youre talking about someone not blessed in this area.
You cant become Usain Bolt but you can see significant improvements especially off the mark if you train specific to it
Like every player coming out of the draft the aim is to bulk them up, but Batch did have a particular emphasis on working on speed and agility.
Disagree. The emphasis on speed and agility has only come about the past few seasons after the initial ballsup. Batch didnt need to be bulked up, he was very strong when he was first drafted. Always had a thick heavyset frame.
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should have always worked on his agility and speed
We did but unlike body size and strength, it changes very little if you're lucky
no we didnt - for 2-3 preseason we worked on bulking him up to make him a 3rd tall, when the penny dropped it was too late especially when youre talking about someone not blessed in this area.
You cant become Usain Bolt but you can see significant improvements especially off the mark if you train specific to it
Like every player coming out of the draft the aim is to bulk them up, but Batch did have a particular emphasis on working on speed and agility.
Disagree. The emphasis on speed and agility has only come about the past few seasons after the initial ballsup. Batch didnt need to be bulked up, he was very strong when he was first drafted. Always had a thick heavyset frame.
Fair enough. I guess we can agree that no matter what they did, the emphasis should have been on speed and agility.
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Jake Butcher, wins ball but then switches sides on us when he has it.
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Jake Butcher, wins ball but then switches sides on us when he has it.
Used to hate that wacko at school who was no good so he'd just change teams when it suited him :banghead
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Another very insipid performance, will keep the list clogged because of injuries, doesn't deserve it though. Must be gone at the end of the year.
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How many did his man kick? Doing his job
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Stats are nothing, not even goals...doesn't matter..
Yep just like Hampson.. :clapping
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How many did his man kick? Doing his job
Do we know the answer to that?
Their KPF didn't kick their goals and he wasn't on their KPF's, so who did he play on?
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How many did his man kick? Doing his job
Do we know the answer to that?
Their KPF didn't kick their goals and he wasn't on their KPF's, so who did he play on?
:thumbsup
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How many did his man kick? Doing his job
Do we know the answer to that?
Their KPF didn't kick their goals and he wasn't on their KPF's, so who did he play on?
:thumbsup
It was actually a question , didn't the question marks give it away ?
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Continues to be a spud of the highest order. should have been delisted two years ago.
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Continues to be a spud of the highest order. should have been delisted two years ago.
:clapping
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How many did his man kick? Doing his job
Do we know the answer to that?
Their KPF didn't kick their goals and he wasn't on their KPF's, so who did he play on?
:thumbsup
It was actually a question , didn't the question marks give it away ?
You know WAT doesn't/can't answer questions.
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End it for Batch before he gets injured too. Just prep him for trading.
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How many did his man kick? Doing his job
Do we know the answer to that?
Their KPF didn't kick their goals and he wasn't on their KPF's, so who did he play on?
:thumbsup
It was actually a question , didn't the question marks give it away ?
You know WAT doesn't/can't answer questions.
Bla bla bla.
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Gone for the season, shoulder surgery. Get him ready for the trade period.
Richmond defender Jake Batchelor has undergone season-ending surgery for a troublesome shoulder.
The 24-year-old has been managing the shoulder complaint in the second half of the season, however the surgery will give him the best possible start to his 2017 AFL campaign.
Batchelor had reconstructive surgery on his left shoulder last Friday, with recovery time usually 16 weeks, it’s expected he will be ready for full-contact drills by December.
“It’s disappointing that Jake won’t be finishing the season, however, he was unable to continue pushing through with pain,” Richmond’s General Manager of Football, Dan Richardson said.
“Our medical team recommended that he have it repaired immediately so that he can fully recover by the start of the 2017 pre-season.”
http://www.richmondfc.com.au/news/2016-08-01/surgery-ends-batchelors-season
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who would even want him? no-one
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who would even want him? no-one
Dooks? ;D
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:snidegrin
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who would even want him? no-one
Dooks? ;D
Hey Einstein, at least i go to games.
Wouldnt meet a nicer guy than Jake.
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is that a FACT?
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is that a FACT?
End of story clowns.
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"nice guy", wow, let's build a team around that. :whistle
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"nice guy", wow, let's build a team around that. :whistle
Trains well too.
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"nice guy", wow, let's build a team around that. :whistle
Trains well too.
Yeah, trains the house down, nice guy.
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"nice guy", wow, let's build a team around that. :whistle
we have ;D its been high on the list of must haves with our recruiting policy.
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"nice guy", wow, let's build a team around that. :whistle
we have ;D its been high on the list of must haves with our recruiting policy.
Wellnid the club thinks so, that just proves im right ;D
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"nice guy", wow, let's build a team around that. :whistle
we have ;D its been high on the list of must haves with our recruiting policy.
:lol....nice guy... :rollin
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who would even want him? no-one
Dooks? ;D
Hey Einstein, at least i go to games.
Wouldnt meet a nicer guy than Jake.
I go to games too. Every year for over 30 years. Regular member for 20 years (Gold member). Coterie member. FTF contributor. I go when work or family commitments allow. Not sure why you brought that (going to games) up anyway. You stick up for Jake all the time. I don't mind him as he gives his all but is a limited player. That is why he polarises opinion. However, we have too many limited players and we can't keep them all. I'm sure he is a nice guy. So is Hardwick, so is Benny and so is Betamax Jacko. Do you see the common theme? I'm not sure that being nice is what people are arguing here Dooks. Would you keep him or delist him?
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who would even want him? no-one
Dooks? ;D
Hey Einstein, at least i go to games.
Wouldnt meet a nicer guy than Jake.
I go to games too. Every year for over 30 years. Regular member for 20 years (Gold member). Coterie member. FTF contributor. I go when work or family commitments allow. Not sure why you brought that (going to games) up anyway. You stick up for Jake all the time. I don't mind him as he gives his all but is a limited player. That is why he polarises opinion. However, we have too many limited players and we can't keep them all. I'm sure he is a nice guy. So is Hardwick, so is Benny and so is Betamax Jacko. Do you see the common theme? I'm not sure that being nice is what people are arguing here Dooks. Would you keep him or delist him?
Oh cmon, read between the lines doc
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who would even want him? no-one
Dooks? ;D
Hey Einstein, at least i go to games.
Wouldnt meet a nicer guy than Jake.
I go to games too. Every year for over 30 years. Regular member for 20 years (Gold member). Coterie member. FTF contributor. I go when work or family commitments allow. Not sure why you brought that (going to games) up anyway. You stick up for Jake all the time. I don't mind him as he gives his all but is a limited player. That is why he polarises opinion. However, we have too many limited players and we can't keep them all. I'm sure he is a nice guy. So is Hardwick, so is Benny and so is Betamax Jacko. Do you see the common theme? I'm not sure that being nice is what people are arguing here Dooks. Would you keep him or delist him?
We must keep him, he is a "nice guy" they are great to have.. :lol
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who would even want him? no-one
Dooks? ;D
Hey Einstein, at least i go to games.
Wouldnt meet a nicer guy than Jake.
I go to games too. Every year for over 30 years. Regular member for 20 years (Gold member). Coterie member. FTF contributor. I go when work or family commitments allow. Not sure why you brought that (going to games) up anyway. You stick up for Jake all the time. I don't mind him as he gives his all but is a limited player. That is why he polarises opinion. However, we have too many limited players and we can't keep them all. I'm sure he is a nice guy. So is Hardwick, so is Benny and so is Betamax Jacko. Do you see the common theme? I'm not sure that being nice is what people are arguing here Dooks. Would you keep him or delist him?
Oh cmon, read between the lines doc
Is that a delist? All I can see between the lines here is black.
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who would even want him? no-one
Dooks? ;D
Hey Einstein, at least i go to games.
Wouldnt meet a nicer guy than Jake.
I go to games too. Every year for over 30 years. Regular member for 20 years (Gold member). Coterie member. FTF contributor. I go when work or family commitments allow. Not sure why you brought that (going to games) up anyway. You stick up for Jake all the time. I don't mind him as he gives his all but is a limited player. That is why he polarises opinion. However, we have too many limited players and we can't keep them all. I'm sure he is a nice guy. So is Hardwick, so is Benny and so is Betamax Jacko. Do you see the common theme? I'm not sure that being nice is what people are arguing here Dooks. Would you keep him or delist him?
Oh cmon, read between the lines doc
Is that a delist? All I can see between the lines here is black.
Nice giys finish first at Richmond
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who would even want him? no-one
Dooks? ;D
Hey Einstein, at least i go to games.
Wouldnt meet a nicer guy than Jake.
I go to games too. Every year for over 30 years. Regular member for 20 years (Gold member). Coterie member. FTF contributor. I go when work or family commitments allow. Not sure why you brought that (going to games) up anyway. You stick up for Jake all the time. I don't mind him as he gives his all but is a limited player. That is why he polarises opinion. However, we have too many limited players and we can't keep them all. I'm sure he is a nice guy. So is Hardwick, so is Benny and so is Betamax Jacko. Do you see the common theme? I'm not sure that being nice is what people are arguing here Dooks. Would you keep him or delist him?
Surely you picked up the sarcasm and reference :lol
Has a pretty decent looking sister btw
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who would even want him? no-one
Dooks? ;D
Hey Einstein, at least i go to games.
Wouldnt meet a nicer guy than Jake.
I go to games too. Every year for over 30 years. Regular member for 20 years (Gold member). Coterie member. FTF contributor. I go when work or family commitments allow. Not sure why you brought that (going to games) up anyway. You stick up for Jake all the time. I don't mind him as he gives his all but is a limited player. That is why he polarises opinion. However, we have too many limited players and we can't keep them all. I'm sure he is a nice guy. So is Hardwick, so is Benny and so is Betamax Jacko. Do you see the common theme? I'm not sure that being nice is what people are arguing here Dooks. Would you keep him or delist him?
Surely you picked up the sarcasm and reference :lol
Has a pretty decent looking sister btw
Now thats fantastic!
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;D
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Ex-Tiger Jake Batchelor is feeling right at home at his new club Frankston Dolphins
Simon McEvoy,
Frankston Standard Leader
10 Feb 2018
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Batchelor played almost all of the 2017 season in Richmond’s VFL side and felt it was his best season of football.
He said he played with freedom, “not scared to try something new and play with a bit of flair’’.
Many Richmond fans were disappointed when the club delisted him.
Batchelor knew it was coming, but it didn’t make it any easier when reality hit.
“Dima (coach Damien Hardwick) told me. I was just at the club and I was training and doing an off-season weights program and he asked me to come and meet with him,’’ Batchelor said.
“I was very close with (Tigers list manager) Blair Hartley and he was in the room as well which eased me a bit.
“But I’m a realist and I knew my time was up. I reckon I knew halfway through the year that I wasn’t going to get another contract. So it was hard. You can prepare for it as much as you like but when you hear the words, we’re going to go in a different direction, you can’t breath for about 10 seconds. It still gets you.
Batchelor remembers going out for lunch with teammates Nathan Drummond and Nick Vlastuin straight after being delisted.
“Nick Vlastuin was my best mate at the club. We both kind of knew throughout the year it was going to happen,’’ he said.
“Nathan Drummond is known as the tight arse of the club, he just wouldn’t spend a dollar on anyone or even on himself, besides basketball guernseys. He offered to pay for my lunch. Either he felt that bad or he thought I turned automatically poor because I just got delisted. That was quite funny how people react.’’
Batchelor says he’s be re-energised by the energy of the youngsters at Frankston. He is yet to be given a jumper number at the Dolphins, but is quite keen on 22 (he wore 11 at Richmond).
“I grew up with No 22 everywhere in local footy and I got it at Stingrays,’’ he said.
http://www.heraldsun.com.au/leader/localfooty/extiger-jake-batchelor-is-feeling-right-at-home-at-his-new-club-frankston-dolphins/news-story/c7f1c97e0a0db2c96fedec09514ca1d8
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Quality young man is Batch
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Should have had 22 at Richmond. Instead we made him half the player he could have been. :shh
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Wouldn't meet a nicer bloke. Know him well. Drinks bourbon and coke.
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Only Jim Beam now that he's a VFL player. Can't afford the black label stuff poor bastard.