One-Eyed Richmond Forum
Football => Richmond Rant => Topic started by: Rodgerramjet on August 02, 2004, 04:02:49 PM
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Just heard a rumour that Jason Dunstall is going hard after Wallace. Is this the start of a bidding war?
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Hawthorn are dream chasing at the moment. First Judd then Pagan. Surely a prospective coach wants to deal with an organisation that lives in the real world. I think the Hawks are now realising that there's a strong possibility with Wallace in the box seat for the Richmond job and Eade possibly going to the Pies that they will be left with having to pick a rookie coach.
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When you think about it we should get the best coach out there. As David Parkin said we have been in the market the longest - we were ahead of the pack.
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You will find that Terry is marshalling""His troops "" together before he signs anything ;)
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I herad from a reliable souce that Carey will be assistant. :scream
Any thruth to this Jackstar Oh wise one.
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You will find the Terry and Wayne speak regularly due to there mutual employee Fox Footy.
Terry has spoken to his past assistants in regards to there commitments next year.
Terry will bring hďs ""own team"" with a clean sweep of present staff at RFC.
I would only be guessing if Carey has been spoken too about coaching etc. ;)
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Just heard a rumour that Jason Dunstall is going hard after Wallace. Is this the start of a bidding war?
Another rumor is that we've offered him '2.5 million over 5 years'.
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The big postive when Wallace does sign will be the increase in memberships for next year. etc
The $2.5m if thats right will take care of itself
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With Eade being told that he was not successful in getting the job, Wallace has to be signed sealed and delivered.
Miller isnt stupid and wouldnt burn his bridges with Rocket unless he knew Terry was a dead cert.
I would like to see Terry bring a former tiger star or favorite son in on his assistant panel.
This will be a very exciting time for our club once he signs on the dotted line.
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SEN replayed parts of Wallace's interview on fox footy tonight. Most of it was a repeat of what he said earlier today. Terry said the first he heard of it was on the radio so he went and bought the paper. Met Bryan Wood for the first time today. Has had one more interview with us than Hawthorn but is expected to catch up with the Hawks on Thursday. Guaranteed a decision wouldn't be made in the next few days.
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Another rumor is that we've offered him '2.5 million over 5 years'.
Don't know about the $$$ but Greg Miller said this morning on the wireless and on the TV news this evening we are looking at a long term appointment 4 years.
Jackstar is right about the membership numbers - they'll help pay for the contract
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Hawks still in hunt for Wallace
03 August 2004
Herald Sun
Mike Sheahan
HAWTHORN is gearing up for a final tilt at Terry Wallace as the battle for his services nears a climax.
Wallace has accepted an invitation to make a full presentation to the Hawks on Thursday, rebutting a report in The Australian yesterday declaring him the next Richmond coach.
"Absolutely nothing's formalised; there's no agreement at all," Wallace told the Herald Sun last night.
"I've got no idea what I'm going to do," he told a caller later on 3AW's Sports Today.
"I was very surprised (by the story). There's been conversations with three clubs (Richmond, Hawthorn and Adelaide); there's probably been a broader conversation with the two Melbourne-based clubs, but there's been no terms or conditions even spoken about at this stage.
"I had a meeting earlier today with Greg Miller and Bryan Wood (members of Richmond's coaching sub-committee), and I hope to be meeting again with Hawthorn later this week."
Wallace, in fact, will front the full board. In a declaration that will encourage his admirers at Hawthorn, he said he had no intention of wasting anyone's time.
Hawthorn's acting chief executive Jason Dunstall said: "Terry's made absolutely no decision; he's in no way committed."
Dunstall said the Wallace presentation would be open to all directors. "I would hope everyone would be there."
Wallace said: "I've had more dealings with Richmond, so I'm probably one meeting ahead, as such, with them. I need to have one more meeting with Hawthorn just to have a full and comprehensive understanding of exactly where they're at. I would say that would put me in a much firmer position to be making a decision."
Despite Adelaide's interest, it is a two-way choice, with Wallace expecting to make his decision early next week.
"I'm not going to play one off against the other. I'll make up my mind which is the right option, then my management would speak privately to that team to see whether terms and conditions can be met."
Wallace, who has spent the past two seasons in the media after seven seasons coaching the Western Bulldogs, can expect an offer for at least three years and probably four.
Richmond's Miller yesterday implied a four-year deal was available at Punt Rd, but Hawthorn also has Wallace as its preferred target and can be expected to construct a similar package.
Any four-year deal would be worth $2.2 million to $2.5 million.
"It's not a money decision," he said. "Of course you want to be recompensed what you need to be recompensed in these things, but it won't be a money decision. I'd rather have all the information lined up and then make a decision straight on an information base, `that's the club I'd like to go to for these reasons'. Then the management (ESP's Craig Kelly) would step in."
He rates the Hawthorn player list slightly better in the short-term, with Richmond more promising in the longer-term. Asked if he wanted the teams to win games and possibly lose priority choices, he said: "I think it's important for the spirit of both football clubs to be competitive."
Wallace was a premiership centreman at Hawthorn. He also played for Richmond before moving to the Western Bulldogs as a player and then a coach.
http://www.heraldsun.news.com.au/footy/common/story_page/0,8033,10325932%255E19771,00.html
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Hawks, Tigers both want Wallace
By Stephen Rielly, Jake Niall
realfooty.theage.com.au
August 3, 2004
Terry Wallace will meet the full Hawthorn board later this week, only days after being confirmed as Richmond's preferred coach for the next four years.
Wallace has beaten Rodney Eade for the first call on the senior positions at both clubs, which has effectively placed the former Western Bulldog coach at the centre of a tussle that seems certain to win him the terms and length of contract he is seeking.
It is understood that Wallace has outlined in his negotiations that he wants a four-year contract and a high degree of authority over whichever football department he chooses.
Eade cancelled his second presentation for the Tigers yesterday after Richmond football director Greg Miller told him that Wallace was his first choice. Miller and the Tiger board will meet tonight although Miller claimed yesterday that the coaching position was not an item on the meeting's agenda.
It is unclear whether Eade would still pursue the Richmond job in the event that Wallace chooses Hawthorn. The Tigers have no other serious candidates in mind, at this stage, besides the former Hawthorn teammates.
It is certain, though, that the Tigers will address the competition from Hawthorn.
"I believe Terry has got options and so have we. Terry is speaking to Hawthorn and he spoke to Adelaide last week," said Miller, who was adamant that no agreement had been struck as yet.
Hawthorn acting chief executive Jason Dunstall confirmed that Wallace would meet the entire board and not simply the five-man coaching subcommittee. Wallace will be the first candidate to do so.
Dunstall also confirmed that Eade and former Geelong and Adelaide coach Gary Ayres had been contacted, although plans to interview Eade have not yet been made.
Wallace contacted Hawthorn yesterday to assure the club that he was in no way committed to Richmond but has virtually dismissed his chances of securing the Adelaide position for which Neil Craig remains favourite.
While Wallace has spoken to the Crows, he said his situation "probably gets down to 50 per cent" - a reference to the fact that he was now in the running at two clubs, not three.
Eade will make his second presentation to the Crows next week but is warming to Collingwood's offer of an innovative position alongside senior coach Michael Malthouse. In the unlikely event that the Adelaide position does not go to Craig it would then go to Eade.
Dunstall expressed confidence that Wallace was still attainable. "He wouldn't be going through the process if it was a done deal," Dunstall said.
"I would think that any time we want to go to the interview stage . . every member of the board is entitled to be part of the interview process."
Wallace last night suggested there would not be an announcement about his coaching future until next week. Dunstall said the Hawks wished to install a new coach "sooner rather than later".
In denying he was committed to Richmond, Wallace said on 3AW: "There won't be an announcement this week."
Wallace also compared the playing lists of his respective suitors, suggesting that while Hawthorn represented the better chance for a swift turnaround, via mature players, Richmond was more advanced in the development of its young players. "I think Richmond is 18 months ahead with their kids," he said.
http://realfooty.theage.com.au/realfooty/articles/2004/08/02/1091432110901.html?oneclick=true
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Wallace also compared the playing lists of his respective suitors, suggesting that while Hawthorn represented the better chance for a swift turnaround, via mature players, Richmond was more advanced in the development of its young players. "I think Richmond is 18 months ahead with their kids," he said.
IMO if Wallace chooses Hawthorn over us based on the above assessment then IMO we should be thankful he didn't take the job. On the other hand, if he chooses us over the Hawks then it's good to hear he understands where we are at and that we will need time to rebuild via youth. In that case he is the right man for the job.
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Wallace also compared the playing lists of his respective suitors, suggesting that while Hawthorn represented the better chance for a swift turnaround, via mature players, Richmond was more advanced in the development of its young players. "I think Richmond is 18 months ahead with their kids," he said.
18 months ahead with the kids :o. From a members point of view this is great to hear. When the media in particular talk about the kids and young teams they concentrate on the Saints, Cats and Kangaroos - we rarely get a mention - for a perspective coach to make a comment like that - has to give us a bit more hope forthe future. There was an article on the RFC site where Frawley said that out of the 3 jobs going we should be the most appealing because we had the best list of young players - Terry Wallace has endorsed that.
Add the kids we are likely to get this year and the future is looking better - it will take time but it will get better.
I agree with MT - if Terry Wallace chooses the Tigers then he wants to be part of the re-build like the rest of us.
Come on Terry - the Tigers are for you :thumbsup
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Hawks, Tigers both want Wallace
By Stephen Rielly, Jake Niall
realfooty.theage.com.au
August 3, 2004
Eade cancelled his second presentation for the Tigers yesterday after Richmond football director Greg Miller told him that Wallace was his first choice.
http://realfooty.theage.com.au/realfooty/articles/2004/08/02/1091432110901.html?oneclick=true
This is quite concerning if Wallace isn't in the bag. Why would Miller tell Eade that Wallace is first choice even before signing him. This would suggest he is signed. Surely they can't be so stupid and risk losing a very good second option in Eade by saying this to him.
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Pity about Casey......KNighter could have come back with him.
Look for Terry to bring in his own fitness team. Once the announcement is official I will provide you all with a summary of his fitness man.....
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IMO if Wallace chooses Hawthorn over us based on the above assessment then IMO we should be thankful he didn't take the job. On the other hand, if he chooses us over the Hawks then it's good to hear he understands where we are at and that we will need time to rebuild via youth. In that case he is the right man for the job.
Agree entirely.
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Patrick Smith said today he aint backing away from the story in The Australian yesterday. Said it came from such a high-up source that he doesn't dispute it!
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Hey mightytiges, the job is right ;)
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I just want to say again - I am rellay enjoying this - it is fun. :rollin
Actually being in the papers for positive reasons for a change .
I was listening to Gold104 this morning while I was eating my Weetbix and that dill they have doing their sports reports "The Coach" the call him was saying regarding the Wallace/Richmond Coaching situation "I am so over it" :lol maybe that's because he has been saying since Danny quit that Eade would be our next coach and basically said there was no way Wallace would be interested in us.... :lol :rollin
It is great to hear alll these commentators squirming :thumbsup
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Apparently there's a finals series in about 4 weeks time, however you wouldn't know it if you read the papers and listened to the radio. It's all Richmond.
With this type of media coverage why wouldn't Wallace want to coach us, him being a media whore and all. Bring it on !!
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I wouldn't think our sponsors would mind all this media coverage either with our contracts up for renewal :).
Melbourne, Saints and Geelong might be up the top of the ladder but they don't sell papers like the Tiges do :thumbsup.
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thats it we might be crap on the field, but off the field we can sell newspapers for rupert and his merrie men.
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All of this off field trouble that is looming at Hawthorn is all good for Terry going with us. Reported on the news tonight that Don Scott is likely to call for a full spill of the board.
All this as well as not having a CEO, Terry is surely going to tell them on thursday thanks but not thanks. I am back to Tigerland.
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Apparently there's a finals series in about 4 weeks time, however you wouldn't know it if you read the papers and listened to the radio. It's all Richmond.
With this type of media coverage why wouldn't Wallace want to coach us, him being a media whore and all. Bring it on !!
Its been us all year but not for all the right reasons.
Realistically we've had about 30% of all press this year which is great if they can keep going off the back of it ino 2005.
All of a sudden we are looking like a marketable product again.
AMAZING how much better i feel just knowing the potato man is leaving seasons end *sighs with glee*
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Everyone loves a circus and Richmond are the ring leaders.
lmfaoooooo@Wallace the media whore. Well said Harry Krishna.
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Wallace looks for stability
By Jake Niall
realfooty.theage.com.au
August 4, 2004
The capacity of Hawthorn and Richmond to recruit players and manage their political crises will be critical to Terry Wallace's choice of coaching job.
Wallace, who will make a presentation to the Hawthorn board tomorrow night, will be offered four-year contracts by both the Hawks and Tigers and similarly lucrative remuneration, but it will be other factors - particularly the stability of either club, the health of its salary cap and recruiting prospects - that will be most influential in his decision.
Wallace is understood to slightly favour Richmond ahead of his old club, but this is largely because the Tigers have already made their detailed pitch - including a four-year offer - and the former Bulldogs coach is yet to hear the full details of Hawthorn's counter-bid.
The Hawks remain confident of making a persuasive pitch, which will include their belief that former director and outspoken ex-premiership skipper Don Scott will not return to the board and that the club will return to its trademark stability.
Sources yesterday said Wallace was likely to choose his preferred club over the weekend and then sit down with his management and the chosen club and secure a deal. On current market rates, Wallace is certain to be paid in excess of $500,000 a year.
Hawthorn, meanwhile, has followed Richmond by contacting Rodney Eade and informing the former Sydney coach that Wallace is its preferred candidate. Should Wallace choose Richmond, the Hawks will then turn their attention to seasoned coaches Eade and Gary Ayres and perhaps assistants Mark Harvey and Gary O'Donnell.
Ayres last night confirmed that he held only "informal" discussions with his close friend, Hawthorn football director Dermott Brereton, about the Hawthorn coaching position and had not yet been formally interviewed.
Like Eade, Ayres will have to wait until Wallace has made his call before he can entertain the Hawthorn job. Richmond has made clear that Eade is its second choice and will offer him the job should Wallace decline.
Wallace is less concerned with the staffing situations at the two clubs, though Richmond - with virtually all its assistants and football department staff out of contract - will be able to give him a blank canvas on which to create his own future.
But it is the political volatility at both clubs and their recruitment prospects that Wallace will weigh up in coming days, as Hawthorn attempts to negotiate a peace agreement with Scott, who has given the board an ultimatum and threatened a spill unless it meets certain demands.
The Richmond board, which convened last night without its key decision-maker and director of football Greg Miller, has put its power struggle between president Clinton Casey and challenger Brendan Schwab on hold until the coaching position is settled.
Hawthorn will tell Wallace that while its salary cap for 2005 is tight due to the massive contracts in place for next year, such as the $600,000-plus committed to Nick Holland and other costly deals, the club will have enormous scope in 2006, when several hundred thousand dollars of room, if not more, immediately opens up.
Richmond, too, has some salary cap concerns, though its restraints relate more to finances - the club is set to lose $2 million this year and is cutting its football budget, with total player payments earmarked for a significant reduction. The club is currently paying, in effect, 100 per cent of the cap, plus veterans' allowances.
http://realfooty.theage.com.au/realfooty/articles/2004/08/03/1091476491999.html
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The Richmond board, which convened last night without its key decision-maker and director of football Greg Miller
Hmmm...Interesting!
Richmond, too, has some salary cap concerns, though its restraints relate more to finances - the club is set to lose $2 million this year and is cutting its football budget, with total player payments earmarked for a significant reduction. The club is currently paying, in effect, 100 per cent of the cap, plus veterans' allowances.
3% is a "significant reduction" but as we've said before it isn't slash and burn stuff. We will reducing our TPP, where player contracts allow, to a more realistic level in line with where our list is at. Given there are now strong signals that we will be indeed drafting for youth then paying 97% of the salary cap shouldn't be a hinderance to our new coach.
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Easy to achieve when your list will be 2-3 players short next year. ;)
Also with one or two big names traded.
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3% is a "significant reduction" but as we've said before it isn't slash and burn stuff. We will reducing our TPP, where player contracts allow, to a more realistic level in line with where our list is at. Given there are now strong signals that we will be indeed drafting for youth then paying 97% of the salary cap shouldn't be a hinderance to our new coach.
3% of $6.2 million is $186,000 not a massive sum in the overall scheme of things.
Richo is eligble for the veterans list so there's half of his salary freed up. The retirements of Kellaway and Rogers would have to equate to around $250-300k of the salary cap. Add to that the likely de-listings and possible trades and there is fair bit of cash spare. And when you have a list of manily first & 2nd years kids you shouldn't being paying 100% of the salary cap
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Easy to achieve when your list will be 2-3 players short next year. ;)
Also with one or two big names traded.
I'm happy with one or two big names being traded if they're easily replaceable (i.e. flankers or outside midfielders) but I hope we don't go more than one player short of our list. We tried that a couple of years back and it backfired when we copped heaps of injuries. I especially hope we make as much use of our rookie list as possible. With Moore and Dragga promoted off it to the senior list and Foley doing not to badly at Coburg, it shows the advantages a Club can obtain using the rookie list to trial players.
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The Richmond board, which convened last night without its key decision-maker and director of football Greg Miller
Hmmm...Interesting!
I think they're meeting again tonight. Any one know for sure?
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The Richmond board, which convened last night without its key decision-maker and director of football Greg Miller
Hmmm...Interesting!
I think they're meeting again tonight. Any one know for sure?
I heard they were meeting yesterday too TS but can't confirm.
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Wallace needs room to grow
04 August 2004
Herald Sun
Mike Sheahan
WHEN Hawthorn and Richmond met in Round 6, they finished one point apart, the Tigers hanging on under fierce pressure.
In 2003, they enjoyed a win each, Richmond by 20 points early in the season, the Hawks by four in the final round.
Suffice to say, they aren't far apart in terms of talent, as their current positions, 15th (Richmond) and 16th, suggest.
Terry Wallace won't be deciding which coaching offer to accept solely on the strength of the player lists.
Nor should he. Neither list promises an immediate surge up the ladder. While Hawthorn may be more seasoned, Richmond seems more promising.
Yet, what Wallace requires most is political stability and the scope to restructure and run a football department his way.
He will have at least three years and probably four to rebuild whichever club that wins his commitment. Time to do it properly.
Provided he is guaranteed the proverbial blank piece of paper to plot the future. To bring in who he wants in the football department, to trade up as he sees fit, to decide the most appropriate use of early draft choices later this year.
Richmond has made the running for Wallace in recent weeks, yet Hawthorn can trump the Tigers at tomorrow's pivotal meeting with him.
The Hawks will be represented by the entire board of directors, conscious they have ground to retrieve.
They have room to move, and they realise they must be accommodating.
What if Wallace wants to recall his former football operations manager at the Western Bulldogs, Paul Armstrong? Or one of his assistants back then, Phil Maylin or David Noble? They must be flexible. Yet both clubs have experienced heads of football in John Hook (Hawthorn) and Greg Hutchison, and both have assistants with contracts taking in next season.
It will be delicate, but Wallace has the whip.
The Hawks have Richmond covered financially, as does any club that can manage to balance its books.
Hawthorn, though, has Dermott Brereton, and no football director has a higher, broader profile -- or more visible presence -- than Brereton, which might unsettle a prospective coach with a choice.
While new chief executive Jason Dunstall is believed to be keen on Wallace, Brereton is a strong admirer of Gary Ayres.
The two coaching prospects (three if you include Rodney Eade) and the two key officials all played in premiership teams together.
It is a complicated issue, one that will lead to a decision that will impact on many people. At two clubs.
If it comes down to playing strength, it simply has to be gut feel.
As the record says, there's nothing between them.
http://www.heraldsun.news.com.au/footy/common/story_page/0,8033,10339748%255E19771,00.html
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Yet both clubs have experienced heads of football in John Hook (Hawthorn) and Greg Hutchison, and both have assistants with contracts taking in next season.
Che ???. Might want to check that up again with the RFC Mike.
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Wallace wary of challenge
realfooty.theage.com.au
August 5, 2004
Coach-in-waiting Terry Wallace admits the prospect of a board overthrow at Hawthorn could end his chances of coaching his old club.
Wallace will meet the Hawthorn board tonight, when the Hawks were expected to offer the former triple-premiership hero the senior coaching job.
But Wallace will also be asking questions, and chief among his concerns is board stability.
A ticket led by former premiership captain Don Scott was thought to be preparing to challenge the incumbent board, and reportedly was not keen on the prospect of Wallace as coach.
"A Don Scott-led board could be a problem for me," Wallace told his current employer Fox Footy yesterday.
"I need to know where the current board stands, where Don stands and where I stand with Don and all those things will become clearer after tomorrow."
Hawthorn was competing directly for Wallace's services with Richmond, which was understood to have offered a four-year deal that would give the ex-Western Bulldogs coach a strong hand in shaping the football department.
While the Tigers board was also facing a challenge from a rebel ticket, Wallace had been assured by one of the rebels - former Tiger premiership player Bryan Wood - that he had their support.
http://realfooty.theage.com.au/realfooty/articles/2004/08/04/1091557925173.html
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The Hawks have Richmond covered financially, as does any club that can manage to balance its books.
I would debate this one too - Mike. The Hawks financial kick back from leaving Waverley ends this year (this is the deal where the AFL has been compensating then from moving from Waverley). This is one of the areas Don Scott has been concerned about - the arguement being if they hadn't been receiveing the AFL "compensation" then their financial results would be alot worse that what the appear.
As for the comment about contracted assistants - you idiot! It has been well documented and Greg Miller has said a number of times that all of the contracts our assistants end this year. Opps sorry that doesn't make good copy does it :banghead
"A Don Scott-led board could be a problem for me," Wallace told his current employer Fox Footy yesterday.
I have to say it certainly isn't a problem for me - Vote 1 Don Scott :thumbsup :rollin
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As for the comment about contracted assistants - you idiot! It has been well documented and Greg Miller has said a number of times that all of the contracts our assistants end this year.
Not sure where Sheahan gets his info., because I’ve heard Greg Miller say the same thing WP; that all contracts finish at the end of this season.
"A Don Scott-led board could be a problem for me," Wallace told his current employer Fox Footy yesterday.
Terry Wallace was on WLF last night and said that he was pretty clear about things at Richmond and what his role as coach will be. His dealings have mainly been through Greg Miller.
The situation at Hawthorn isn’t as clear cut and it sounds as though it could take some work to convince Wallace of how things would operate, were he to take them on. The roles of Brereton and Dunstall, plus the Don Scott-led challenge are concerns.
Even though we may appear a rabble at times, by getting in early, it seems that the sub-committee/Club has done their homework and made RFC seem a viable option for prospective coaches.
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Has anyone got any information on the Meeting this morning with Wallace and the Hawks apparently it started at 7.30am and finished 4 hours latter.
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Has anyone got any information on the Meeting this morning with Wallace and the Hawks apparently it started at 7.30am and finished 4 hours latter.
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No job offers yet, says Wallace
www.abc.net.au
5th August 2004
Former Western Bulldogs coach Terry Wallace says he has not yet been offered the senior coaching position at either Hawthorn or Richmond.
Wallace met with Hawks officials for almost four hours this morning, to discuss the role that was made vacant after Peter Schwab was sacked last month.
He said he spoken with Richmond in recent weeks but was yet to make a decision on his future.
"I haven't got a decision to make yet, because I haven't been offered the position," he said.
"But certainly, I'm just looking at my future and looking at all aspects of it, looking at the two clubs."
However, Wallace said this morning's meeting with the Hawks had been productive.
"There was a lot to speak about,' he said. "I've said all the way along, that I've had a lot of discussions with Richmond, obviously they've been in the process a little bit longer and I had learnt more about where they sat.
"I just needed to find out that sort of information about the Hawks."
Wallace said he was expecting to have more talks with Hawthorn tomorrow.
"There'll be ongoing discussions," he said. "I wouldn't have thought it would be any more than 24 hours before the next discussion would be held," he said.
Wallace has already ruled himself out of the running for the Adelaide Crows senior coaching position
http://www.abc.net.au/sport/content/200408/s1169570.htm
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We haven't made an offer yet, does anybody else think this is a bit strange?
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It is all about that strange thing called the PROCESS :-\
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LMFAO :thumbsup
Well put
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We haven't made an offer yet, does anybody else think this is a bit strange?
Maybe it's the case of we've made a verbal offer (i.e. we want you Terry and we're willing to give you a 4 year deal) but made no formal offer - papers, contracts, finer details, etc.. That way everyone can say there's been no "official" offer.
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Well we better be running down at Punt Road right now because the Hawks are serious about this and you can bet your balls the Hawks will have there documents ready by the time Wallace gets there tomorrow. Gee I wish I knew who spilt the beans to the Age because that has screwed us or potential has because it has inspired the Hawks into action and they very well may pull this guy right from under our noses.
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Apparently reported on channel 10 that Wallace will make an announcement on Monday.
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Apparently reported on channel 10 that Wallace will make an announcement on Monday.
He's still got another meetng with the Hawks tomorrow ???
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I hope the kids put in a great show against the Cats and I hope the Dogs smash the Hawks for Rhode.
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Apparently reported on channel 10 that Wallace will make an announcement on Monday.
He's still got another meetng with the Hawks tomorrow ???
Yes I know, and I'm sure the meeting tomorrow will be to go over a potential contract regarding terms etc.. but he will take it away with him and give himself the weekend to study both ours and his. Since I made an earlier post I have been informed by "Somebody" apparently connected to both Wallace and Brown that our Proposal is already in Wallace's management's office. I hope this is true.
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Apparently reported on channel 10 that Wallace will make an announcement on Monday.
He's still got another meetng with the Hawks tomorrow ???
Yes I know, and I'm sure the meeting tomorrow will be to go over a potential contract regarding terms etc.. but he will take it away with him and give himself the weekend to study both ours and his. Since I made an earlier post I have been informed by "Somebody" apparently connected to both Wallace and Brown that our Proposal is already in Wallace's management's office. I hope this is true.
Wonder if Browny will pay Terry a visit or give him a call over the weekend :thumbsup
Interesting no-name brand sauce you've got there RR ;D
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Apparently reported on channel 10 that Wallace will make an announcement on Monday.
He's still got another meetng with the Hawks tomorrow ???
Yes I know, and I'm sure the meeting tomorrow will be to go over a potential contract regarding terms etc.. but he will take it away with him and give himself the weekend to study both ours and his. Since I made an earlier post I have been informed by "Somebody" apparently connected to both Wallace and Brown that our Proposal is already in Wallace's management's office. I hope this is true.
Wonder if Browny will pay Terry a visit or give him a call over the weekend :thumbsup
Interesting no-name brand sauce you've got there RR ;D
Yes, normally I wouldn't quote a no-name brand sauce through fear of perpetuating pure crap, but this time it's probably more in hope that it is actually true than confirmed fact.
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It would be a concern to me if the Tigers hadn't interviewed more that one person.
Dermie said on SEN tonight that Wallace is the only person they've interviewed. I don't think this is smart on the Hawks part and I am not saying that because I want Wallace - it just isn't a good method of doing business.
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totally agree williampowell, very unprofessional way of doing business this is where we are 1 step ahead of the hawks, and this is where "the don" at hawkland is wanting a thorough interview process to be done otherwise there will be a spill of the board.
is this whats making t.w. nervous about hawks instability, and why we got our poo together.
time will tell
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What a load of crap !!!!!!!!
This .... Wallace is ours I have it from a reliable source is utter garbage.
Wallace is playing both Richmond and Hawthorn against each other and he will then sign with the best deal.
If he signs for Richmond ( I seriously doubt it after a 4hr meeting with the dawks and another meeting with them on friday) I would still like to know who this "reliable source" person really is and find out who at Punt Road has a big mouth and cant keep it apparently shut, because if they kept it shut in the first place perhaps all this waiting for Wallace to have a meeting with the hawks would never have happened.
biggest load of Bull@#it i have ever heard. >:(
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:bow Well said PRR :bow
Wallace always has and always will look out for numero uno. He is loving the attention he is getting at the moment and he is more than willing to accomodate more than one tongue in his ringhole if it will secure him the best deal.
In my opinion not a lot seperates Wallace and Eade in terms of coaching nous and if Wallace wants to go to Hawthorn then good riddance, so long as we have an adequate replacement like Eade to take over the coaching reigns.
Looking at the way Wallace is acting at the minute, his head appears so full of helium that it will take him well on a year to get grounded and recover from his headswell.
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He's always had a massive ego, parading around in his leather jeans and used to think he looked pretty good in Speedos :scream (MT/WP, can we get a puke smiley lol)
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Received a phone call last night from a mate who I haven't heard from in a while. He works with the son of a former bulldogs assistant who worked under Terry (won't mention any names). He was told by his work mate that both his dad and Terry will definately be at tigerland next year. The deal had been done 3 weeks ago.
Either this is true or he's pulling my mates leg.
Make of it what you will.
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This is all getting heavy with rumours and ineundo......
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Wallace is playing both Richmond and Hawthorn against each other and he will then sign with the best deal.
If he signs for Richmond ( I seriously doubt it after a 4hr meeting with the dawks and another meeting with them on friday) I would still like to know who this "reliable source" person really is and find out who at Punt Road has a big mouth and cant keep it apparently shut, because if they kept it shut in the first place perhaps all this waiting for Wallace to have a meeting with the hawks would never have happened.
You have to wonder how different things would have been had someone not opened their big mouth.
As for whether Wallace is playing one Club against another, I have a different theory.
I actually think Wallace has helped out both the current Richmond and Hawthorn Administrations/Boards. Whether it was intended or not, who knows and if it helps, does it matter?
Because, by Wallace coming out and saying that he wouldn’t take on any Club that was unstable at Board level, he put pressure on any warring factions to cease fire.
It worked in Richmond’s case, but not sure whether the same will happen at Hawthorn. From what Dunstall said on TFS last night, they have been having discussions with Scott for a couple of months now. But not much, if anything, seems to have been resolved in that time and it doesn’t sound like progress will happen quickly from hereon in.
By Wallace again coming out and saying he won’t coach them if there’s a challenge going on behind the scenes he puts pressure on Scott and so both parties either resolve things quickly or lose out on his services.
If that happens then it helps their current administration, because by not supporting the Club, huge public pressure is placed on Scott and his challenge may disintegrate because of the backlash that will surely follow. Nothing’s certain of course, but that’s one theory.
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Agree Tiger Spirit. There are a lot of people from all Richmond boards that I have been to that have expressed that Wallace is the cause of what appears to be a fiasco concerning the coaching appointments at two clubs. Wallace is NOT to blame for what is going on. The people who are creating the atmosphere is the MEDIA with stories and innuendos, it is then pushed and embelished by commentators, supposed experts and Message board posters and the whole affair turns into a circus of unknowns and false accusations and data.
Wallace isn't actually doing anything that any one of us wouldn't be doing if he was in his position, he has a right to choose the job or career path or direction he wants his life to follow. He has not made any huge statements or tried to put himself in the spot light, it is the MEDIA that have done this and he is being blamed for it which is WRONG.
Wallace may or may not have been a done deal before the Age article broke, but I can assure you that if it had of happened to me I would have been pretty angry and I can pretty confidently say that alot of you would have been too. Wallace would have been looking for a club that had some sort of resemblance of stability and trust. Breaking a story or leaking a story that should have been held in confidence doesn't do a lot for stability or trust in a group you are trying to do business with. That little scene actually opened the door for the Hawks to have a crack and Wallace is giving them that opportunity and so he should, It's not about playing one off against the other it is common sense and should be done.
I have my own theories on where this leak came from and it's not Casey or the current board (they have too much to lose by missing Wallace) even though I believe Casey should be removed. There were more people than just Casey and Miller that would have known how the Wallace negotiations were going, don't forget that Brian Wood was and is on this selection committee, and who do you think he reports to, not Casey.
Whether Wallace will come I don't know, he is the best credentialed coach out there in the market at this time and the best at Marketing his club which is a huge benefit to who ever gets him and I hope it's us. He is a victum of circumstance at this time, its a great money spinner for the Media and they will milk it for as much as they can get, If Eade had a profile as high as Wallace then It would be him and the same thing would be happening.
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Exactly right about the Media Rodgerramjet. What the media do with the information they get and what happens from thereon in can get out of control.
And once the leak was out, it was always going to become a soap opera. The media would be loving it. Except for maybe those at the Australian, of course, who just wish it would hurry up and come to the happy ending they said it would.
Had the leak not got out, you wonder how different things would have been. RFC said that they were mindful of keeping things in-house, when they began looking for a new coach. Had Wallace been assured of that secrecy/privacy when he began discussions with the Club then, as you say RR, he would have every right to have second thoughts about who he was getting involved with, when things got out before time.
What’s real and what’s not, only they truly know themselves, but it makes you think about the role the media plays in creating something out of nothing. And perhaps the lengths those under scrutiny go to just to prove them wrong.
Back to the coaches, on SEN this morning they had a statistical comparison of the coaching records of Wallace and Eade. I didn’t hear the whole thing, but from what I did hear, they were fairly even, with Eade maybe slightly ahead.
As you say, where Wallace comes out in front of other candidates is the media profile he has and his ability to sell his Club and his message. And you can’t put a figure on what that is worth to a Club.
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I have my own theories on where this leak came from and it's not Casey or the current board (they have too much to lose by missing Wallace) even though I believe Casey should be removed. There were more people than just Casey and Miller that would have known how the Wallace negotiations were going, don't forget that Brian Wood was and is on this selection committee, and who do you think he reports to, not Casey.
A caller rang in to SEN this morning blaming Casey and the Richmond committee for the Wallace leak. Patrick Smith said his information definitely didn't come from Casey and Co. Make of that what you will.
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Exactly right about the Media Rodgerramjet. What the media do with the information they get and what happens from thereon in can get out of control.
And once the leak was out, it was always going to become a soap opera. The media would be loving it. Except for maybe those at the Australian, of course, who just wish it would hurry up and come to the happy ending they said it would.
Had the leak not got out, you wonder how different things would have been. RFC said that they were mindful of keeping things in-house, when they began looking for a new coach. Had Wallace been assured of that secrecy/privacy when he began discussions with the Club then, as you say RR, he would have every right to have second thoughts about who he was getting involved with, when things got out before time.
What’s real and what’s not, only they truly know themselves, but it makes you think about the role the media plays in creating something out of nothing. And perhaps the lengths those under scrutiny go to just to prove them wrong.
Back to the coaches, on SEN this morning they had a statistical comparison of the coaching records of Wallace and Eade. I didn’t hear the whole thing, but from what I did hear, they were fairly even, with Eade maybe slightly ahead.
As you say, where Wallace comes out in front of other candidates is the media profile he has and his ability to sell his Club and his message. And you can’t put a figure on what that is worth to a Club.
Correct. :thumbsup
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I have my own theories on where this leak came from and it's not Casey or the current board (they have too much to lose by missing Wallace) even though I believe Casey should be removed. There were more people than just Casey and Miller that would have known how the Wallace negotiations were going, don't forget that Brian Wood was and is on this selection committee, and who do you think he reports to, not Casey.
A caller rang in to SEN this morning blaming Casey and the Richmond committee for the Wallace leak. Patrick Smith said his information definitely didn't come from Casey and Co. Make of that what you will.
I'm with Smith on this one.
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From Hawk Headquarters:
just heard hutchy, on a show called, up country punt,don scott has backed off alltogether,hutchy broke the news to tim watson and billy brownless,says this puts the whole terry wallace thing back into the melting pot.
Hutchy's not such a reliable source but neverless not good news for us :-\.
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Fairdinkum this is worse than marlin fishing :scream
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Wallace has a guarantee of support from both factions, even though he hasn't spoken to Clinton Casey's challenger, Brendan Schwab.
http://foxsports.news.com.au/story/0,8659,10358620-23209,00.html
Anyone think this would be a great opportunity for Schwab to put his hand up as a leader and had a meeting with Wallace before Monday to allay any fears of instability at the club. To me, he should be in his ear this weekend and i will be very disappointed if he doesn't do everything in his power to do as such. To me, it could clinch the deal if Wallace is worried about infighting to show that they will be behind him should the club appoint him.
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Rumor it might have been tj that leaked the story to patrick smith.. ;)
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Rumor it might have been tj that leaked the story to patrick smith.. ;)
I'd believe that.
*Jewell telling Patricia Smythe*
"T-T-T-T-TT-T-Terry W-W-W-WW-W-Wallae I-I-Is a du-du-du-du-du-du-done deal.
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Hawthorn election may sway Wallace
07 August 2004
Herald Sun
Mark Robinson
HAWTHORN plans to call a shock extraordinary general meeting in a bid to secure Terry Wallace as coach.
It's believed the Hawks want an election showdown with agitator and former board member Don Scott which they believe could strengthen their chances of signing Wallace and restore stability to the ailing club.
The Hawks believe Wallace will agree to coach in 2005 and beyond if Scott is off the radar.
Several club directors are angry Scott is jeopardising their bid for Wallace and plan to throw down the challenge: Put up or shut up.
The meeting could be called as early as Monday and an election held – if Scott can muster his forces – in 21 days.
Instead of waiting for a possible board challenge from Scott – which has hung over the club's head for several months – the Hawks would ask for a vote of confidence from members.
The annual general meeting would still be held in December.
It's understood Wallace is aware of Hawthorn's plans for an extraordinary general meeting and has indicated he could wait until after any election before deciding his future.
The Hawks, however, still hope Scott will abandon plans for any challenge.
Wallace, the club's first choice to replace Peter Schwab, met the Hawthorn board on Thursday and made it known he wouldn't work with Scott and wouldn't consider any offer while Scott loomed in the background.
It's believed Wallace is also Scott's preferred choice as coach, but he only wants to sign him to a two-year contract. The Hawks are considering a three or four-year offer.
The former Bulldogs coach is the most highly sought man in football with both Hawthorn and Richmond pitching for his services.
In view of Hawthorn's plans, the Tigers will undoubtedly up the ante in their bid for Wallace, who, it was reported earlier this week, had agreed to coach at Punt Rd, a report Wallace angrily denied.
A Hawks extraordinary general meeting is a win-win situation despite the estimated $50,000 cost.
It could deliver Wallace but, even if he did agree to terms with Richmond, the ploy would still end the warring at Glenferrie Oval.
As yet, Wallace has given no indication where his preference lies, and has claimed he might even continue working in the media with the Herald Sun, 3AW and Fox Footy.
Wallace told the Herald Sun on Thursday: "There's three parts to the equation: Richmond, Hawthorn and none of the above (and) none of the above is still a serious contender. If there's too many things that get in the way from making it the right vehicle, I'm not doing it."
An end to the political storm at the Tigers, tempered somewhat by the truce between president Clinton Casey and rival Brendan Schwab, also weighs on Wallace's decision.
http://www.heraldsun.news.com.au/footy/common/story_page/0,8033,10365922%255E20322,00.html
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Unless it is a done deal and all this is just for show ??? then I'd reckon it's time to stick Wallace in the same room with all our youngsters - Cogs, Krakouer, Newman, Schulz, Jackson, Hartigan, Moore, etc plus Brown, Johnson, Bowden and Otto and emphasize that with early picks 2, 5 and 21 plus a high PSD pick we have a good basis to develop a strong list that will be around for a number of years.
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We shouldn't have to chase this prick. If he doesn't think that our list and base from which to build is good enough then he might as well coach Hawthorn. Good luck to him.
Bring on Eade.
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I agree JohnF
surely if he has to wait on Hawthorn to fix their mess then he doesnt want to coach us at all.
Why wait for Hawthorn? I dont understand....... seriously better off starting negotiations with Eade, someone with a record as good as Wallace and Rocket doesnt big note himself.
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If the report in the Age is correct then I believe that if Wallace is prepared to wait on a decision of a EGM at the Hawks then the Hawks have to be his preferred choice. Unfortunately we should be preparing for our second option, O'Donnel or Eade.
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Wallace has a guarantee of support from both factions, even though he hasn't spoken to Clinton Casey's challenger, Brendan Schwab.
http://foxsports.news.com.au/story/0,8659,10358620-23209,00.html
Anyone think this would be a great opportunity for Schwab to put his hand up as a leader and had a meeting with Wallace before Monday to allay any fears of instability at the club. To me, he should be in his ear this weekend and i will be very disappointed if he doesn't do everything in his power to do as such. To me, it could clinch the deal if Wallace is worried about infighting to show that they will be behind him should the club appoint him.
Yes I gree with this aswell Froars, Shwab should show some leadership here and have a quite word to Wallace, but I suspect he would be quietly happy if we miss out on him.
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We shouldn't have to chase this prick. If he doesn't think that our list and base from which to build is good enough then he might as well coach Hawthorn. Good luck to him.
Bring on Eade.
We probaly aren't chasing him "per se" john. It's more of "We want you, We have seen what you can offer, You have seen our list, you know our potential, We've alleviated the board fracas, make a decision". There's know chasing now, all cards are on the table. What worries me is the article in the Age if it is true, that Wallace is prepared to wait for the result of a EGM at the hawks, If that report is true then we can't allow that to happen, we have to drop him like hot bricks because his real choice is the Hawks and we need to move on and get O'Donnel or Eade and he can take his own chances with the Hawks board.
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Yes I gree with this aswell Froars, Shwab should show some leadership here and have a quite word to Wallace, but I suspect he would be quietly happy if we miss out on him.
Yep, i think you're right too RRJ, i suspect there is an undermining of Wallace and a few others by the Schwab team and COHORTS lol. But he did put Bryan Wood in charge of overseeing the process with Miller and Co. If Wood thinks, along with the coaching panel, that Wallace is the man, Schwab should accept it. And then do his darndest to make sure he speaks with him this weekend.
I don't think we're going to get Eade or Wallace now - not very hopeful at all with all the crap that's going on at the moment. And I think Wallace is the best man available at the moment, but his big head worries me. He is lapping all this attention up. I don't want no ego crazy bloke in charge of us - because i don't know how he'd handle the fans when crap happens. He'd be the type to walk when his ego is deflated a bit. But still, he's the best person i think, and we should be going after him.
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I thought this could live here as well
(http://img1.uploadimages.net/704480shaf2.jpg)
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Lmao Ur a classic Ox ;D
Would this be the sequel to his amazing performance in The Year of the Dog a few years back?
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I heard Caro on 3AW yesterday (Sunday) and a caller asked he who she thought would coach the Tigers.
She said Wallace and believed it would be announced this week, she also said (and this cracked me up) that she had just spoken to Greg Miller and although he didn't say anything he had ..... wait for it....................
a twinkle in his eye
hard hitting investigative journalism at its best :thumbsup
:lol :rollin :lol :rollin
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Maybe he was just happy to see her. ;) ;) nudge nudge
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Tigers on brink of nabbing Wallace
10 August 2004 Herald Sun
Mark Stevens
TERRY Wallace will make his final call between Richmond and Hawthorn within the next 48 hours.
Wallace has ditched thoughts of not coaching at all next season, with Richmond shortening as the favourite to win his services.
Both the Tigers and Hawks yesterday held final discussions with Wallace, who now needs no more evidence to make up his mind.
"I've just got to the stage where I've had enough of the public scrutiny myself and I need to make a decision in the shorter term rather than the longer term," Wallace said yesterday.
D-Day could come as early as tomorrow, when Wallace is likely to make back-to-back phone calls to inform the clubs of their fate.
"I've got enough information from both clubs – they have both been very diligent in what they've done," Wallace said.
With Don Scott still in the background at Glenferrie Oval fuelling political uncertainty, it seems certain Wallace's choice will be Tigerland.
Hawthorn chief executive Jason Dunstall last night said there was no movement on striking a compromise with Scott.
"There's obviously some unresolved issues with Terry as far as our club and it's a matter of where he stands on those, I guess," Dunstall said.
Asked if he was confident of snaring Wallace, Dunstall said: "You're never too confident on these things."
Wallace made it clear to the Hawks board that he could not work with Scott.
Scott did not return calls last night.
Wallace held discussions with Richmond football director Greg Miller yesterday morning.
"We just re-iterated a few things in different areas," Miller said. "We've done what we need to do. We've laid our cards on the table."
Miller dismissed speculation Wallace had a dinner date booked for midweek with several Richmond players.
"That's not true. Some players went to him last week of their own accord," he said.
Wallace said he had 15-minute informal talks with both clubs yesterday.
"They ring and we have a bit of a chat about a few things. There's always a couple of things you've asked questions about or want some sort of clarity on," he said.
Wallace spent the weekend doing his usual media work and reviewing all eight games.
Monday and Tuesday are the quietest days in his week, leaving him free to make his final decision.
Wallace last Friday said he would strongly consider staying out of coaching if neither team appealed as the perfect fit. But he said yesterday that he had decided over the weekend that he would resume coaching – it is now just a matter of where.
RODNEY Eade yesterday had his second interview to convince Adelaide he is the man to lead the club.
It is understood the former Sydney coach left his three-hour meeting with the Crows saying he wants an answer by the end of the week so he is not frozen out of other AFL coaching vacancies.
Adelaide is unlikely to meet Eade's request.
The Crows stuck to their no-comment line last night while Eade said he was hopeful of learning their reaction to his presentation by Friday.
"There are a few irons in the fire and we will have to wait and see what happens," said Eade, also in the running for coaching jobs at Richmond, Hawthorn and the Western Bulldogs.
Sorry to steal your thunder MT :bow
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:bow to Gibby the presenter of good news :cheers
author=Gibby link=topic=590.msg5730#msg5730 date=1092065448]
"I've just got to the stage where I've had enough of the public scrutiny myself and I need to make a decision in the shorter term rather than the longer term," Wallace said yesterday.
D-Day could come as early as tomorrow, when Wallace is likely to make back-to-back phone calls to inform the clubs of their fate.
Terry "Trump" Wallace lol. Richmond you're hired. Hawthorn you're fired :thumbsup
You're not the only one Terry that's had enough. It'll be good to finally know either way what's happening in the next day or so so the Club can get on with other issues and move forward.
My 11am announcement in the TW sweepstakes isn't looking too crash hot :P ;)
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Hes ours.
I wanna say to us all here, May this be the start of something promosing,
I can feel it in my bone.
Hartigan,Tuck,Moore,Jackson,Raines,Schulz,Cogs - plus the prority, plus the other pix for being schit
and we look like a goer.
Go Tiges !
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Hes ours.
I wanna say to us all here, May this be the start of something promosing,
I can feel it in my bone.
Hartigan,Tuck,Moore,Jackson,Raines,Schulz,Cogs - plus the prority, plus the other pix for being schit
and we look like a goer.
Go Tiges !
LMAOOOO @ you being so excited Ox, that you are boning up over this news. Roooooooooooooolllllinnnnn :rollin :lol
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LMAO@ Ox taking some viagra and thinking about Terry Wallace coaching the Tigers!!!! :scream :scream :scream
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Wallace held discussions with Richmond football director Greg Miller yesterday morning.
"We just re-iterated a few things in different areas," Miller said. "We've done what we need to do. We've laid our cards on the table."
Miller dismissed speculation Wallace had a dinner date booked for midweek with several Richmond players.
"That's not true. Some players went to him last week of their own accord," he said.
Yes it appears that the "leadership" group had dinner at Terry's place last week (Browny, Campbo & others ;)). Well done guys - proactive leadership - more of it I say :thumbsup
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Hartigan,Tuck,Moore,Jackson,Raines,Schulz,Cogs - plus the prority, plus the other pix for being schit
and we look like a goer.
Don't forget Gasper will be like a new recruit next year, Ox ;D
And Morrison you were so keen on in another post :-\
Just stirring kiddo - sure beats working at this miserable hour lol
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Its fair to say that Wallace was always going to come to Tigerland. You might find after all this settles down that the Nathan Brown deal had something to do with it.
Signed
The wise one ;)
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Oh Swami, are you going to get some mileage out of this :rollin
Wallace better sign or we'll be after you lol
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Its fair to say that Wallace was always going to come to Tigerland. You might find after all this settles down that the Nathan Brown deal had something to do with it.
Signed
The wise one ;)
Oh great Prophet Jackstar.....
are you saying that sometimes it pays to honour contracts ;) :shh
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Signed
The wise one ;)
lmao, come here Jack, I'll just rip that ticket youve got on yourself off lol :bow
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Yes. By both parties ! ;)
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Yes. By both parties ! ;)
Both parties ;) ;)hmmm I hear a song coming on...
Cheer Cheer the red...................... :lol
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and the white
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Hes ours.
I wanna say to us all here, May this be the start of something promosing,
I can feel it in my bone.
LMFAOOOOOOOOO@Ox's optimism emanating from his hard-on.
About Wallace, if we do get him, let's hope we can deflate his headswell pronto, and move forward prudently.
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LMAO @ Ox baring up at the thought of Wallace coming.
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Its fair to say that Wallace was always going to come to Tigerland. You might find after all this settles down that the Nathan Brown deal had something to do with it.
Signed
The wise one ;)
Yes, I think there is something in this as well, but I think the original plan was for both of them to go to the Hawks but Brown was put off by the upset of a few key Hawk players in Brown going their. The Hawks didn't want to take the pay cuts and Brown didn't want to go their with team mates that were possibly going to resent him so he chose the Tigers. This then opened the door for us to get Wallace because both teams Hawks and Tigers had big problems with their respective coaching set ups and the writting was well and truly on the wall that changes would be made within 1 to 2 years especially at Richmond.
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I think we are going to get him. But wouldn't it be a shocker if he announced the Hawks :gobdrop
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I have heard it from a reliable source ......................
A little birdy flew past my window (in perth) and whispered that he knew a friend who knew a friend that while crossing the nullabor heading towards Melbourne that his cousin is the cousin bird that lives in the tree out the back of Wallace's place and the night he went to the window he saw brownie and co eating a lovely meal and he heard Wallace say " Well boys eat up this is gunna be your last supper before I kick your A@#e on the training track in a few weeks time".
POP the Champagne bottle folks Wallace is going to Richmond !!!!!!!!!!!!!!
now back to reality .....................................
At Richmond we are well known to start crowing in rounds 1-4 about possible finals lets just hope we arent doing a similar thing with Wallace. I'm still having a hard time believing that anything good can happen at our club.
And Ox
Let's hope you were Boning for a reason, and lets not hope this "image" of Wallace doesnt turn around and we find out its Barb the Carlton supporter LMAO!!!
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Yes, I think there is something in this as well, but I think the original plan was for both of them to go to the Hawks but Brown was put off by the upset of a few key Hawk players in Brown going their. The Hawks didn't want to take the pay cuts and Brown didn't want to go their with team mates that were possibly going to resent him so he chose the Tigers. This then opened the door for us to get Wallace because both teams Hawks and Tigers had big problems with their respective coaching set ups and the writting was well and truly on the wall that changes would be made within 1 to 2 years especially at Richmond.
Brown was always going to go to richmond or where Terry wallace coached.
Brown and Cambo are good mates !
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I think you will find he has just signed on the dotted line ;)
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Well done Jackstar - you are a legend lol
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I think you will find he has just signed on the dotted line ;)
[faces in the general direction of jackstar] :bow :bow :bow :cheers
4 years, $500-600K/yr, total run of the place? :shh
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Terry the Tiger
2:29:22 PM Tue 10 August, 2004
Ashley Browne
Sportal
Terry Wallace appears to have made up his mind and is about to be named as coach of Richmond.
Wallace arrived at Richmond's Punt Road headquarters early on Tuesday afternoon to reportedly meet the board and put the finishing touches to a four-year deal to replace Danny Frawley as coach from 2005.
Wallace has taken his time in recent weeks weighing up offers from Hawthorn and Richmond, having earlier ruled himself out of contention at Adelaide.
Wallace played 11 games for Richmond in 1987 in the middle of decorated stints with Hawthorn and the Western Bulldogs. He coached the Western Bulldogs from late 1996 until round 21 of 2002, leading that club to the 1997 and 1998 preliminary finals with a mix of flair, innovation and grunt.
http://afl.com.au/default.asp?pg=news&spg=display&articleid=165099
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It was announced on SEN just after 2pm that Wallace was meeting the Richmond board and they have said he will be officially offered the job.
It is believed that he will sign today and be announced later today.
Lets hope its all true
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Announced that there will be an announcement this arvo that Wallace has signed with the Tiges.
*Ox has just dropped a load* :cheers
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Ox wont be online for a while, he has RSI ,lol
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Well done to Greg Miller - looks like he got his man :cheers
well done Jackstar :thumbsup You've done it again.
and a special Thanks to Don Scott for being ...er... Don Scott :cheers
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OX? :scream
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Thank Geez it's over by the sounds of it :scream
I hope everyone is relieved :thumbsup
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LMAOOOOOO Gibster.
Ox would be fast asleep by now :scream :scream :scream
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LMFAOOOOO@Ox having a picture of Wallace on the head of his shaft.
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LMAOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
Well done Jackstar.
Well done everyone!!
!NB Lets give this guy some support.
Im buying 2 memberships 4 next year.
LMAOOOO@Waking up with a boner and knowing we had signed Terry - LMAOOOOO
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LMFAOOOOO@Ox having a picture of Wallace on the head of his shaft.
LMFAO :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol
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LMAO @ Ox baring up at the thought of Wallace coming.
lmaooo@" Wanting" Terry :P
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LMAOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
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Well done Jackstar.
Well done everyone!!
!NB Lets give this guy some support.
Im buying 2 memberships 4 next year.
LMAOOOO@Waking up with a boner and knowing we had signed Terry - LMAOOOOO
LMAOO @ Ox showing rock solid support for Terry.
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TIGER ARMY!! TIGER ARMY!! TIGER ARMY!! TIGER ARMY!!
What a day..... :bow :bow :bow :bow :bow IM FOR THIS!!!!!!!!
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LMFAOOOOOOOOOOOO@Ox being impotent for the last 5 years.
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Now for something a little different...a little "year of the Dogs"-ish
If the RFC think signing Wallace up is good enough, I'll F'N SPEW!
Part one is complete, now let's clean the place up! :rollin
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Im hard,errr, excited that for once things are falling into place.
Kids are there and coming in every year,we have Harry.M.Miller who is hell bent (over)
on having his name associated with the restoration if u will,of the sleeping giant,
We have Terry "SHAFT" Wallace ;D whose coaching should have improved after being an analyst from the commentary box for the last few years and we have
our Boners.
Now all we have to do is remove spud from the place and we're back
Go Tiges
"Waitin' for 05"
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LMAOO @ Ox showing rock solid support for Terry.
LMAOOOO@ My pet name for my old fella being "Terry"
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Now for something a little different...a little "year of the Dogs"-ish
If the RFC think signing Wallace up is good enough, I'll F'N SPEW!
Part one is complete, now let's clean the place up! :rollin
How true Gibby. Amongst the euphoria this is only the first step in a long process. :thumbsup
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and let me be the first to say...
"Wallace is a dud...let's sack the prick!"
:scream :scream :scream :scream
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The Hawk supporters must be absolutley spewing with this ;D
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and let me be the first to say...
"Wallace is a dud...let's sack the prick!"
:scream :scream :scream :scream
Sorry Gibby - Ox beat you to it - he said the same thing last week after The Australian announcement
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The Hawk supporters must be absolutley spewing with this ;D
You can pass on your best wishes at www.hawkheadquarters.com/forums/index.php ;)
In all seriousness they should now sign up Donald McDonald.
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You would have to think that Ayres will get the Hawthorn gig now - Dermie luvs him :lol
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Apparently we've just gone to get him a white shirt and a richmond tie for the press conference - SEN.
Where's the tiger skin?! ;D
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Apparently we've just gone to get him a white shirt and a richmond tie for the press conference - SEN.
Where's the tiger skin?! ;D
The tiger Skin isn't the best of condition MT - I think it is in the museum.
And I just want to say I am really peeed off that I cannot access SEN on my computer at work
Even happy to see the swear filter is still working ;D
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You would have to think that Ayres will get the Hawthorn gig now - Dermie luvs him :lol
The Hawks will go off their rocker if they sign up Ayres. Dermie might be lynched at his own club LMFAO :cheers
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The Hawks will go off their rocker if they sign up Ayres. Dermie might be lynched at his own club LMFAO :cheers
NOw there's a good revenue raiser :rollin
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Apparently we've just gone to get him a white shirt and a richmond tie for the press conference - SEN.
Where's the tiger skin?! ;D
The tiger Skin isn't the best of condition MT - I think it is in the museum.
And I just want to say I am really peeed off that I cannot access SEN on my computer at work
Even happy to see the swear filter is still working ;D
I've got SEN on at the moment and Its just some olympic stuff, what are you guys hearing?
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The tiger Skin isn't the best of condition MT - I think it is in the museum.
And I just want to say I am really peeed off that I cannot access SEN on my computer at work
Yeah I can't get SEN either. We've got a ancient radio in the office but the reception is crap :(. Got that info RR off the Hawk site.
I'd guess WP the skin isn't used to being stored away for a whole 5 years ;D
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Just said on SEN that the press conference is on at 4.15 to announce that Terry Wallace is the new coach of RICHMOND :bow :bow :bow :bow :bow :bow :bow :bow :bow :bow :bow :bow :bow :bow :bow :bow :bow :bow :bow :bow :bow :bow
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Just said on SEN that the press conference is on at 4.15 to announce that Terry Wallace is the new coach of RICHMOND :bow :bow :bow :bow :bow :bow :bow :bow :bow :bow :bow :bow :bow :bow :bow :bow :bow :bow :bow :bow :bow :bow
I better run down to the car :thumbsup ;D :bow
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lol @ all businesses who employee Richmond supporters having zero productivity today :lol
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LMFAO at the announcement occuring during Dermit Breretons segement on SEN :thumbsup :thumbsup
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Hey guys,
whats the link for SEN again please ?
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www.sen.com.au
Trying hard to listen now - very hard to do the same thing and work at the same time lol
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Thanx Froarer ! :-*
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No problem sweetie lol
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It's official. Wallace has a five year deal with RFC.
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Is on now.
Says he super enthusiastic and hopes we can become a professional outfit.
Wants a regular 50,000+ crowd at the g.
So much easier listening to an eduacated man as opposed to spud.
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We're going to be the scratchie scratchie tigers now grrrrrooooowwwwllll lol
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SEN Interviewed Dermie before the press conference and here are some things about that:
Dermit sounded very flat and disappointed at not getting Wallace.
Wallace contacted Dunstill about the decision in last 24 hours.
Wallace's presentation to Hawks was fantastic.
Brereton blames Don Scott for the Hawks missing out on Wallace.
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Some points from the Press conference:
Wallace will start with the club on 1st October 2004.
No short term fix.
Wallace will be on a 5 year contract.
The focus will be on recruiting and building a team.
Some of the things Wallace said:
Honured to be our coach
Wants to develop a winning culture
Had unfinished business with himself in regards to coaching.
Thought Casey's and Millers professionalism was excellent.
Is hoping for stability at the club in the future.
Likes the crowds that we can gather.
Dissapointed with accusations in the media.
He told the club last night.
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SEN Interviewed Dermie before the press conference and here are some things about that:
Brereton blames Don Scott for the Hawks missing out on Wallace.
Yeah I heard that to RRJet - as I said before thanks Don.
Even Terry in his press conference made reference to the "road blocks" at Hawthorn.
Well done again the Casey & Schwab for putting our Club first in the coaching merry-go-round
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LMAO@WP running to the car to listen to SEN.
I should have joined you I kept losing the reception :banghead.
Apparently Greg Miller is going to be on very soon :thumbsup
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LMAO@WP running to the car to listen to SEN.
WP's brand new car that I got today - it really has been a great day :cheers
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And let us not forget those who said there was no way we could or would get Terry Wallace:
And here's a sample:
Dwayne Russell, Mike Sheahan, Robert Walls, the Coach from Gold 104 to name but a few
how foolish do you feel now :help :help
:thumbsup :lol :rollin
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WOW that's great, what sort did you get?
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WOW that's great, what sort did you get?
A Vectra
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WOW that's great, what sort did you get?
A Vectra
Nice Hey :thumbsup
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I was able to run and get hold of some speakers to listen to SEN but it kept buffering on me :P. Dermie seemed a little flustered ;D. Did he claim Wallace wasn't their first choice? ::) Seems to contradict what Dunstall had been saying all last week.
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I was able to run and get hold of some speakers to listen to SEN but it kept buffering on me :P. Dermie seemed a little flustered ;D. Did he claim Wallace wasn't their first choice? ::) Seems to contradict what Dunstall had been saying all last week.
That's right MT, Brereton changed his tune a bit from his interview just before the announcement to when they came back on after the announcement. After the announcement he was indicating that Wallace was not the Hawks first choice but he was just trying to save face with the Hawks membership. Wallace was definetly there first choice.
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Wallace to Richmond: what they said
6:15:41 PM Tue 10 August, 2004
Samantha Lane
Sportal
Terry Wallace:
On Richmond:
"I'm honoured that the Richmond Football Club has given me the opportunity to take it forward into a new era. I know and understand that it's been a difficult time for all Tiger supporters and members. All I would like to say is that I'll be doing everything within my power to develop a winning culture back to the Richmond Football Club, getting it back to where it thoroughly deserves to be."
"The efforts of both Clinton and Greg and their professionalism in the way they approached all meetings that were conducted over a period of time, that made me super enthusiastic."
"I just thought this football club was a club that has such a huge capacity to be one of the real strengths of the competition….I suppose I'm dreaming that I can do that, I believe that I can change the culture and the way that the Richmond people are feeling about their footy club. That was probably one of the majors reasons."
On reaching his decision:
"I've probably been a little bit disappointed with the accusations that it (the deal) was done and dusted some time ago. I spoke to both Hawthorn (CEO) Jason Dunstall and Greg (Miller) last evening and told them where I sat with my decision."
On Hawthorn:
"I just didn't think the EGM (extraordinary general meeting) pathway was the right way to go. I thought there was an ability at Richmond to allow a smooth transition for me to be able to take on the role. That was significant in the final decision making."
"It just became a situation where I would have only been going with my heart (to Hawthorn) and I didn't think the right reasons. I just thought it was a little bit cloudy."
"We never got to the terms of agreements or anything like that with Hawthorn because there was just roadblocks I the way that didn't allow it to get that far."
"They could not assure a clear passage through to me being able to take on the job, that there may be some EGM or some sort of situation there that wasn't clear….that was a key factor in me not going to Hawthorn."
On the potential for board instability at Richmond:
"I'm a football coach and I've got to deal with getting this club to win games of football and I think that's where I sit….I'm hoping for stability in this footy club, that's what I'm hoping for. "
On his future support staff at Richmond:
"If you have a look at my past history I've never had an ex-teammate sitting along side of him. I've just always tried to go out and get the right people."
"I think that's the way you should go about things, and I'll be doing exactly that with Greg (Miller) and we'll just be working through the process of whose here, what's working, what we believe isn't and what decisions need to be make from there."
On Richmond and Hawthorn's lists:
"I didn't think there was a lot of difference between the lists. If you're looking at a long-term sustainable objectives as a coach, unless there is a huge margin between the two I didn't pick it on list structure."
"One of the real pleasing things for me was just the situation with the younger players at this football club at the moment."
"I think you would be kidding yourself that if any side that's finished down in the bottom four of the ladder, if you didn't think that (a culling of Richmond's list) was going to occur. I think you have to go down that path."
"How deep that goes I think obviously that depends on and is determined by how we go in the trade period and how that goes. It's an ugly time of the year for players…I can't make any promises to any player on the list. All I can try to do is make promises to the players that remain that we'll have a better list going forward."
On what he will do between now and October 1:
"What is paramount is that there's a respect for Danny Frawley to do his job. I won't be around the scenes here, I won't be behind the scenes, I won't be, as it was suggested in some media outlets, in the box or anything like that."
Clinton Casey, Richmond president:
"Terry's just detailed a presentation to the board, and we certainly agree with his evaluation of our list and his long term plan for the future building of our team and the promotion of this football club."
"We know there's no short term fix in football, and therefore we’ve offered a five year contract….and the board will provide the support and security for Terry to recruit and build a strong team that's going to produce some consistent performances for this footy club."
Greg Miller, Richmond's director of football:
"Last Thursday I was concerned that four hours with Hawthorn was a long time and I just tried everything we could behind the scenes to make sure Terry would coach us. As he said, he told me last night at about nine o'clock."
"The financial side of it was done in half an hour this morning and that's really all it took."
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Bump.
Interesting :lol
A couple of years down the track.
A) Should we sack him immediately lol
B) Wait till the end of his contract
C) Keep him
D) Re-sign him so he can do his 2011 thing and really piisss some ppl off lol
E) If we do sack him, who to replace him
F) If we sack him, do you think the new coach will be able to make superstars out of the existing group
G) Do you think anyone could get our group to adhere to a game plan?
H) What do you like about Wallace?
I) What do you dislike about Wallace ? :help
J) Anythiing else you'd like to add!
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A) Should we sack him immediately lol No
B) Wait till the end of his contract Yes, we couldnt afford it
C) Keep him Depends how the next two years pan out
D) Re-sign him so he can do his 2011 thing and really piisss some ppl off lol No contract until end of yr 5
E) If we do sack him, who to replace him We cant afford to so no need to answer
F) If we sack him, do you think the new coach will be able to make superstars out of the existing group
G) Do you think anyone could get our group to adhere to a game plan? Yes
H) What do you like about Wallace? Good PR, good spin doctor ;D, good tan
I) What do you dislike about Wallace ? I believe that he is too dishonest, i am sure that all coaches tell little white lies. In saying that i think with our predicament and history of our club our supporters would like a more upfront approach. Tell us how it is, if players are being put on notice we want to hear about coz otherwise we think Wallace doesnt really give a poo. Show some emotion and say our performances have been ordinary. This will win support.
J) Anythiing else you'd like to add!
I would like to add that i always said pre-season that this year we would go backward before starting our forward movement again next year. Due to the fact that our younger players will be more experienced and will start to perform more consistantly, to cover our old hacks :lol
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Agreed with alot of what Bully.
A) Should we sack him immediately lol No
B) Wait till the end of his contract Yes, we couldnt afford it
C) Keep him Depends how the next two years pan out
D) Re-sign him so he can do his 2011 thing and really piisss some ppl off lol No contract until end of yr 5
E) If we do sack him, who to replace him We cant afford to so no need to answer
F) If we sack him, do you think the new coach will be able to make superstars out of the existing groupNo (those above 21)
G) Do you think anyone could get our group to adhere to a game plan? Yes but footy is also about using your own flair and intuition within that gameplan which is based on each players talent
H) What do you like about Wallace? Doesn't speak in stupid cliches, meticulous planner leading up to games, can come up with different gameplans and match-ups to suit different opponents
I) What do you dislike about Wallace ? Can stuff up obvious match-ups at times (Hall on Buddy instead of Polo, Gas on Medhurst instead of Rocca)
J) Anythiing else you'd like to add!
Like Bully not surprised if we wents backward before starting our forward movement again next year. Due to the fact that our younger players will start to replace our senior players yet will need time to gain experience and develop. If we had our best 22 on the park most weeks we could sneak a finals spot but that's not going to happen now
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Wallace also compared the playing lists of his respective suitors, suggesting that while Hawthorn represented the better chance for a swift turnaround, via mature players, Richmond was more advanced in the development of its young players. "I think Richmond is 18 months ahead with their kids," he said.
http://realfooty.theage.com.au/realfooty/articles/2004/08/02/1091432110901.html?oneclick=true (http://realfooty.theage.com.au/realfooty/articles/2004/08/02/1091432110901.html?oneclick=true)
Well, well, well.
I knew i was making it up all along.
Gee Wallace was on the money with this one.
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Its amazing how posters here forget , or should I say convienently ::)
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Bully, dont be too upset.
He will be gone at the end of the year anyway ;)
Its just another 3 years in Richmonds history totally wasted.
Oh yeah thats right, someone like Jay Schultz will kick a few goals at Coburg and will be back as the savior and we will start winning games lol
Oh dear.
Plough has most people fooled.
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A) Should we sack him immediately
No we should sack him at the end of the year. Im sick of it, jack of it, Ive had enough of this poohe. OUT! GONE! Hes good at PR, but he didnt clean out the joint enough. Has to pay the price for failure and the decisions that have been made. MILLER should go as well. BOTH - OUT!
B) Wait till the end of his contract
NO
C) Keep him
NO
D) Re-sign him so he can do his 2011 thing and really piisss some ppl off lol
NO
E) If we do sack him, who to replace him
Wont happen but Chris Bond would do it for $200,000 a year.
F) If we sack him, do you think the new coach will be able to make superstars out of the existing group
NO! But he'll have a mandate to sack 12 blokes and get rid of the crap out of Punt Rd once and for all.
G) Do you think anyone could get our group to adhere to a game plan?
YES!
H) What do you like about Wallace?
Hes excellent at PR but when your going out the back door and havent won a game you cant do PR- You need to look down the barrel of the camera and tell the truth without crap.
I) What do you dislike about Wallace ?
Frawley stuffed up- and badly but you cant blame everyone else 2 1/2 years in. Not when you had 5 picks in the first 20 of your national draft
J) Anythiing else you'd like to add
Ive almost had enough. Richmond is slowly dying as a club. We are losing another generation of supporters. We need to make one huge raid on other clubs in the preseason and snare afew players- cheap. We need to keep our first pick and take the best player.
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A) Should we sack him immediately
No we should sack him at the end of the year. Im sick of it, jack of it, Ive had enough of this poohe. OUT! GONE! Hes good at PR, but he didnt clean out the joint enough. Has to pay the price for failure and the decisions that have been made. MILLER should go as well. BOTH - OUT!
B) Wait till the end of his contract
NO
C) Keep him
NO
D) Re-sign him so he can do his 2011 thing and really piisss some ppl off lol
NO
E) If we do sack him, who to replace him
Wont happen but Chris Bond would do it for $200,000 a year.
F) If we sack him, do you think the new coach will be able to make superstars out of the existing group
NO! But he'll have a mandate to sack 12 blokes and get rid of the crap out of Punt Rd once and for all.
G) Do you think anyone could get our group to adhere to a game plan?
YES!
H) What do you like about Wallace?
Hes excellent at PR but when your going out the back door and havent won a game you cant do PR- You need to look down the barrel of the camera and tell the truth without crap.
I) What do you dislike about Wallace ?
Frawley stuffed up- and badly but you cant blame everyone else 2 1/2 years in. Not when you had 5 picks in the first 20 of your national draft
J) Anythiing else you'd like to add
Ive almost had enough. Richmond is slowly dying as a club. We are losing another generation of supporters. We need to make one huge raid on other clubs in the preseason and snare afew players- cheap. We need to keep our first pick and take the best player.
EXCELLENT post there Ramps. Couldnt have done better myself. :thumbsup
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He's always had a massive ego, parading around in his leather jeans and used to think he looked pretty good in Speedos :scream (MT/WP, can we get a puke smiley lol)
Not much has changed has it, Ego still massive and still cant coach
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Wallace also compared the playing lists of his respective suitors, suggesting that while Hawthorn represented the better chance for a swift turnaround, via mature players, Richmond was more advanced in the development of its young players. "I think Richmond is 18 months ahead with their kids," he said.
http://realfooty.theage.com.au/realfooty/articles/2004/08/02/1091432110901.html?oneclick=true (http://realfooty.theage.com.au/realfooty/articles/2004/08/02/1091432110901.html?oneclick=true)
Well, well, well.
I knew i was making it up all along.
Gee Wallace was on the money with this one.
Garry Lyon claimed in his article that Wallace said our 2004 list was better than Hawthorn's 2004 list. Thanks Bully for proving that was utter garbage. He actually said Hawthorn's list was better with a better chance in the shorter-term and we were more a longer-term option which is what has been said on here and that Wallace chose us as he was uncertain about Don Scott's challenge at the time which is what FF said in the another thread.
Here's both clubs' 2004 list. Bold names are still with each club. More of our 18-19 year olds at the time have turned out better lol. Hawks stronger in the 20-24 age bracket which have finally matured this year. We lacked numbers and quality in this group.
Hawthorn 2004
31: Barlow, Graham
30: Crawford, Everitt, Holland
29: Barker, Tallis
28: Smith, Beaumont, Lekkas, McCabe
27: Dixon, Vandenberg
26: Thompson
25: Hay
24: Croad, Jacobs, A.Cox, Picioane, Scott
23: Bateman, Rix#
22: Campbell, Clarke, Mitchell, Osbourne, Sewell, Ball, Greene, Ries
21: Brown, Williams, Kane, N.Lonie
20: Boyle, Hodge, Ladson, Shelton#
19: Brennan, Miller, Bergin#, Clifton#, Thurgood#
18: Dawson
Richmond 2004
32: Campbell
31: D.Kellaway, Rogers
30: Stafford
29: Richo, A.Kellaway
28: Gaspar, Marsh
27: Blumfield, Chaffey
26: J.Bowden, Brown, Johnson, Fleming, Fletcher
25: Tivendale, Hilton
24: Hall, Ottens
23: Tuck, Fiora, Morrison, Nicholls, Dragga#
22: Coughlan, Hyde, Newman, Pettifer, Weller, Zantuck
21: Krakouer, Rodan
20: Moore#
19: Hartigan, Schulz, Foley#, Roach
18: Jackson, Raines, Archibald, Gilmour
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Seriously , how many players on Richmonds list would get a game elsewhere irrelevant to age?
The answer, not many.
And if you cant get a game in a team the cannot win a game, dont bother trying to get redrafted elsewhere becuase you wont.
Eg Meyer, Hartigan, Schultz, Moore, Krakouer, JON.
I know some of these players have had injuries but if your body cannot stand up to AFL football, its bad luck.
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With Eade being told that he was not successful in getting the job, Wallace has to be signed sealed and delivered.
Miller isnt stupid and wouldnt burn his bridges with Rocket unless he knew Terry was a dead cert.
I would like to see Terry bring a former tiger star or favorite son in on his assistant panel.
This will be a very exciting time for our club once he signs on the dotted line.
:rollin
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With Eade being told that he was not successful in getting the job, Wallace has to be signed sealed and delivered.
Miller isnt stupid and wouldnt burn his bridges with Rocket unless he knew Terry was a dead cert.
I would like to see Terry bring a former tiger star or favorite son in on his assistant panel.
This will be a very exciting time for our club once he signs on the dotted line.
:rollin
I have already stated that i was excited about Wallace when he was signed up, so whats the point in posting that?
You are the one who was claiming Wallace never said our list was better than Hawthorn.
Everyone was excited about Wallace day one, i can tell you that more than 50% of our membership base would want him sacked right now.
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hey jack, if u really know that terry will be gone at the end of teh year, stop the winking and smug smiles, just let it out and tell us everything you know. tell us your source, and tell us who will replace him.
now terry said he could see the hawks having a quicker turn around in form cos of their senior more mature players than us, but believed our kids are better than theirs.
well if that is what he said, then he was right!
im sick of this sack terry crap and blaming him. we might be last, but have played not bad, we have actually been better than many teams just out of luck due to injury and inexperience. the bombers, the dogs, the roos, the pies etc have all been lucky up til now. as i said in another thread, ladder position means nothing atm 4 us, and the lower we finish the better off we will be long term.
whether he stays or goes i dont care atm, cos we will be a force in 2-3 years and whoever coaches us then will be thanking terry for developing lids, blingers,foley, cleve, edwards, jack, peterson, pattison, raines(cant thank spud 4 raines), polo, connors, jon , thursfeild, etc......and gettying polak on board
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He will be gone at the end of the year anyway ;)
It maybe time for you to spill Jack because I don't believe he will be going anywhere ;) :whistle ;)
Cos IMHO he aint going to get sacked unless there is a complete turn over on the board - which aint going to happen either :thumbsup
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He will be gone at the end of the year anyway ;)
It maybe time for you to spill Jack because I don't believe he will be going anywhere ;) :whistle ;)
Cos IMHO he aint going to get sacked unless there is a complete turn over on the board - which aint going to happen either :thumbsup
sorry jack,
but i ahve to repeat,
there is absolutely no chance for romance!
not even if we dont win another game, and rightly so.
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He will be gone at the end of the year anyway ;)
It maybe time for you to spill Jack because I don't believe he will be going anywhere ;) :whistle ;)
Cos IMHO he aint going to get sacked unless there is a complete turn over on the board - which aint going to happen either :thumbsup
sorry jack,
but i ahve to repeat,
there is absolutely no chance for romance!
not even if we dont win another game, and rightly so.
I am with you blaisee :thumbsup Do we know the same people ;D
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hey jack, if u really know that terry will be gone at the end of teh year, stop the winking and smug smiles, just let it out and tell us everything you know. tell us your source, and tell us who will replace him.
And then have the courage of your convictions to sign it off with your real name. You said you would tell Wallace to his face everything - then why not here?
You won't of course.
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You are the one who was claiming Wallace never said our list was better than Hawthorn.
Wrong,wrong, I never claimed a thing - Fish was the one dear.
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i dont care what our ladder position says, and im not delusional, but our list is better than the hawks.
we have been very unlucky, but you take out hawtorns 3 most important players and see where they finish
we havent played that bad, many many losses we could have won if it was 4 our lack of experience.
we are in good shape, next yr, all those games we could have/should have won, we will win
this yr is a yr we needed, the last thing we needed was to finish b/w 7th and 10th. we are just tanking as the bombers did last yr, but we are in better shape than the bombers as our list is not aging like theirs
i only have one grief atm with terry, i just wish he stood up for his team and players like clarkson does at times. thats it.
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hey jack, if u really know that terry will be gone at the end of teh year, stop the winking and smug smiles, just let it out and tell us everything you know. tell us your source, and tell us who will replace him.
And then have the courage of your convictions to sign it off with your real name. You said you would tell Wallace to his face everything - then why not here?
You won't of course.
Hey Moi. already have
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And I reckon Wallace he will walk at years end.
Tell you whats funny, all of you have an opinion and thats fine but none actually know Wallace. Well. in my opinion he will walk.
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hey jack, if u really know that terry will be gone at the end of teh year, stop the winking and smug smiles, just let it out and tell us everything you know. tell us your source, and tell us who will replace him.
And then have the courage of your convictions to sign it off with your real name. You said you would tell Wallace to his face everything - then why not here?
You won't of course.
And dont waste your time talking about courage either.
Everybody knows who i am here anyway smart arse, just grab last years annual report. ::)
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And I reckon Wallace he will walk at years end.
Tell you whats funny, all of you have an opinion and thats fine but none actually know Wallace. Well. in my opinion he will walk.
so its just your opinion , not anything concrete
my opinion is he wont walk
the only reason he left the dogs was because he had a better offer from the swans, end of story
now who would make him a better offer atm, no one, so unless he gets a better offer, he will stay
and imo, he will stay, mike sheahan as we know knows terry well, and he has stated in teh papers that unlike other coaches in the past who have stated the season this bad, terry is as safe as houses and going know where
there is know way, terrys ego will let him quit while he is down. the dogs was different, he moved on to what was meant to be a bigger and better contract, it it appears he was paid in full for 2 yrs of doing nothing
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You are the one who was claiming Wallace never said our list was better than Hawthorn.
It was me. ;) I still am.
Wallace didn't say it in that whole quote, from a week before he took the job, you seem to claim as supposed proof he did. A nice piece of selective bolding and increasing in size to warp his point.
You forgot to find a quote where he says he chose Richmond because they had a better list than Hawthorn, as you also falsely claimed. You won't.
Here's what he said on the day he was announced as coach: (page 11 of this thread)
On Hawthorn:
"I just didn't think the EGM (extraordinary general meeting) pathway was the right way to go. I thought there was an ability at Richmond to allow a smooth transition for me to be able to take on the role. That was significant in the final decision making."
"It just became a situation where I would have only been going with my heart (to Hawthorn) and I didn't think the right reasons. I just thought it was a little bit cloudy."
"We never got to the terms of agreements or anything like that with Hawthorn because there was just roadblocks I the way that didn't allow it to get that far."
"They could not assure a clear passage through to me being able to take on the job, that there may be some EGM or some sort of situation there that wasn't clear….that was a key factor in me not going to Hawthorn."
On Richmond and Hawthorn's lists:
"I didn't think there was a lot of difference between the lists. If you're looking at a long-term sustainable objectives as a coach, unless there is a huge margin between the two I didn't pick it on list structure."
Having a problem with Wallace is one thing, twisting what he has said into something he didn't say so that it supports your opinion is something else.
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As my grand old mum would have said about this thread "it will end in tears"
Can anyone tell me why I can't get 3AW through my computer - has the AFL banned streaming on football now? No game on free to air - any wonder the fans are unhappy.
ps - this site needs an Ox filter - :rollin
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Fish,
that quote was from an article from the Age. Wallace said it.
Wallace clearly stated that our list was in a better shape than Hawthorn's in particular the young kids.
Wallace aside, there is no way that anyone could in their right mind say that our current youngsters are better than Hawthorns.
I would say that Carltons youngsters are also better than ours also.
Sad fact but very true.
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Went and watched the Hawks on friday night. They are the real deal.
Not many lightweights either.
And the biggest mistake ever at a draft was taking Tambling before Franklin . I liked Richard but have seen Buddy heaps this year. he will be a superstar if not already
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that quote was from an article from the Age. Wallace said it.
Wallace clearly stated that our list was in a better shape than Hawthorn's in particular the young kids.
I know the quote was from The Age and he said it. We'll have to disagree that he said our list was in better shape because I don't see it, let alone clearly. He said he thought our kids were more advanced at that stage, not our list.
From the time he came to the club he has pointed out the big hole in our list.
Their kids are probably performing better than ours atm, but those kids are not the ones he mentioned in the quote. Most have been recruited since.
A mixture of luck and good recruiting by the hawks, and good on them. You can't dump them on him for something he said in 2004 though.
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hey jack, if u really know that terry will be gone at the end of teh year, stop the winking and smug smiles, just let it out and tell us everything you know. tell us your source, and tell us who will replace him.
And then have the courage of your convictions to sign it off with your real name. You said you would tell Wallace to his face everything - then why not here?
You won't of course.
And dont waste your time talking about courage either.
Everybody knows who i am here anyway smart behind, just grab last years annual report. ::)
oh we all know who you are jackstar, no need to worry about that... ;)more than a few at the RFC know what you are up to....
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Dont tell me, let me guess , undermining the football club ::)
Good luck to them :thumbsup
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Dont tell me, let me guess , undermining the football club ::)
Good luck to them :thumbsup
more like good luck to you.....not unlike 'pushing water up a hill'
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It is actually good luck to me.!
And you can tell them as well, to give me a call when they win a game. Would love to congratulate them ::)
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Went and watched the Hawks on friday night. They are the real deal.
Not many lightweights either.
And the biggest mistake ever at a draft was taking Tambling before Franklin . I liked Richard but have seen Buddy heaps this year. he will be a superstar if not already
Just with Buddy he is going to be a star but not a consistent one IMHO. The type of player he is he will play probably 4-5 awesome games and the rest where he will just be a contributor rather than star.
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It is actually good luck to me.!
And you can tell them as well, to give me a call when they win a game. Would love to congratulate them ::)
i thought with your connections within the RFC you wouldnt have to wait for a call, been stepping on too many toes have we or perhaps worn out your welcome.
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It is actually good luck to me.!
And you can tell them as well, to give me a call when they win a game. Would love to congratulate them ::)
i thought with your connections within the RFC you wouldnt have to wait for a call, been stepping on too many toes have we or perhaps worn out your welcome.
I actually want nothing to do with them, I am hardly an arse crawler, so I dont actually fit in , do I ?
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And I reckon Wallace he will walk at years end.
Tell you whats funny, all of you have an opinion and thats fine but none actually know Wallace. Well. in my opinion he will walk.
We're using the same train of thought of Wallace to come up with opposite opinions. I can't see him voluntarily walking out and being remembered as a wooden spoon coach. He would know if he leaves now it would be his final year as an AFL coach ever. His ego even if you believe he's only in it for himself wouldn't allow it.
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Although he isnt completely stupid and if he cant get the message across to the players ? He could walk.
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It is actually good luck to me.!
And you can tell them as well, to give me a call when they win a game. Would love to congratulate them ::)
i thought with your connections within the RFC you wouldnt have to wait for a call, been stepping on too many toes have we or perhaps worn out your welcome.
Welcome Rogerd3, if he ain't stepped on any, won't be long.
Talk about loyal supporters :o
Even if Wallace does walk, the tarnishing of our brand by this mob has done enough damage me thinks this year :(
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Although he isnt completely stupid and if he cant get the message across to the players ? He could walk.
I thought you were watching the news ::)
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Went and watched the Hawks on friday night. They are the real deal.
Not many lightweights either.
And the biggest mistake ever at a draft was taking Tambling before Franklin . I liked Richard but have seen Buddy heaps this year. he will be a superstar if not already
thats a load of crap jack
1/ the blues played so crap and the hawks were on
2/ the tigers made teh right call with tambling and tambling will prove you and the whole footy world wrong
3/ if buddy is so f good, why didnt
a/ the hawks get him at no2
b/ the dogs get him at 3 , knowing that they needed a rtall fwd and that griffen has had a history of patella dislocation problems , which has now dislocated again.
believe me , i know how bad reoccuring patella dislocations are, and you cant stop them permantly and tighten the patella tendon and lossed tha vastes lateralis muscles by cutting them
i know this cos i had my foorty career ended with the same problems, its created by an exagerated q angle in the hip joint and cannot be fixed permantly because thats just bad luck and how u r born
its more common in women with large hips than men thats why it takes longer to diagnose
now , griffen , had these problems prior to the draft and still went ahead of buddy, so who is the idiot now
re tambling, he is just about to explode, just wait til the tigers start performing better. and btw, they (buddy and blingers) play totally different roles and buddy stands out every few weeks then goes back to sleep, whereas imo tambling has been much more consistent than buddy this year
btw, i just saw teh bombers first half in adelaide
will the real bombers please stand up......oh this is the real bombers, not the lucky pricks of teh past 4 weeks
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There is nothing more anal than comparing draft picks three or four or however many years after the event and "blaming" selectors for making incorrect decisions - it's just a waste of space.
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It is actually good luck to me.!
And you can tell them as well, to give me a call when they win a game. Would love to congratulate them ::)
i thought with your connections within the RFC you wouldnt have to wait for a call, been stepping on too many toes have we or perhaps worn out your welcome.
Welcome Rogerd3, if he ain't stepped on any, won't be long.
Talk about loyal supporters :o
Even if Wallace does walk, the tarnishing of our brand by this mob has done enough damage me thinks this year :(
What, tarnish the brand on a website, your dreaming ::)
They are doing a good job tarnishing it themselves by not winning a game.
Playing crap footy, kicking backwards, recruiting hacks, I could go on and on but whats the point.
As for being stepped on HA!
Only posting my opinion, if you dont like it, dont reply to my posts!
Thats simple enough isnt it!
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Although he isnt completely stupid and if he cant get the message across to the players ? He could walk.
Or get rid of the players who are too dumb to get the message knowing you've got good picks this year and 2 years still left on your contract. Hey you might even get another good pick in a trade if one is a KPP.
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It is actually good luck to me.!
And you can tell them as well, to give me a call when they win a game. Would love to congratulate them ::)
i thought with your connections within the RFC you wouldnt have to wait for a call, been stepping on too many toes have we or perhaps worn out your welcome.
Welcome Rogerd3, if he ain't stepped on any, won't be long.
Talk about loyal supporters :o
Even if Wallace does walk, the tarnishing of our brand by this mob has done enough damage me thinks this year :(
You have to kidding dont you, who do think reads this website?
There isnt a chance in hell that any comments made on this site would contibute to tarnishing the club. ::) :wallywink
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There isnt a chance in hell that any comments made on this site would contibute to tarnishing the club. ::) :wallywink
Dead wrong.
I have lost interest in footy this year based solely on yours and Jackstar's comments, negativity, stabbing everyone who got in Jack's way in the back, describing the club as useless. Then why in the hell would I bother joining next year if what you describe is our future?
And if Sheeds is there next year, they've lost a $1.25k member.
Multiply it by others you've turned off the game and club, and you see what impact you've had!
Screw you both!
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IF Sheeds does coach the tiges next year. 10,000 members will jump on board, which will mean $1,000,000.in revenue.
Anyone who has lost interest you will find, it will be caused by watching gabbage football each week. The drawn game was the worst game of footy I have seen this season, and I usually go to three games a week
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That is crap.
Speaking for myself, what weight do my opinions of Wallace or Miller or whoever have?
None what so ever, if i am being negative about any of these people or the club who is going to listen. No one.
Our club has been a rabble as we know for well over 20 years, yet as MT said we are pretty loyal and continue to front up every year to barrack for the club and hopefully watch us win a game or two.
If you can honestly say that you being a member or not next year is going to hang on any comments that Jack or myself make, then you have issues.
Everyone who reads here knows my opinion of Wallace and Miller.
In regards to me being a member next year, well i couldnt give a stuff who's down there coaching as long as they are doing the right thing by the club. Gee i would even be a member if you became coach Moi :P
We are all the Richmond people, not Wallace or Miller or Royal etc. These people while also wanting to achieve the ultimate glory are also there for the $$$
I want our club to be successful as much as anyone on the site.
I doubt Sheedy will be our coach next year and am sure Wallace will see out atleast his remaining two years, but if Sheedy did happen to land at Tigerland then i would think he would bring atleast 5,000 members.
:gotigers
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IF Sheeds does coach the tiges next year. 10,000 members will jump on board, which will mean $1,000,000.in revenue.
Undoubtedly he will attract new members. But he's an old man, we'll be getting him in his final years. Hardly a way to plan for the future.
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I want our club to be successful as much as anyone on the site.
:gotigers
Sure! As long as Wallace isn't part of the deal ::)
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I want our club to be successful as much as anyone on the site.
:gotigers
Sure! As long as Wallace isn't part of the deal ::)
i dont have to like our coach or think he is the right person.
I did think he was a good coach, but he is totally lost me these days with all of his bullshite.
Its a matter of opinion, just coz you dont agree doesnt mean i am trying to undermine the club. If i was i wouldnt be trying to do it on this website thats for sure.
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I want our club to be successful as much as anyone on the site.
:gotigers
Sure! As long as Wallace isn't part of the deal ::)
And as for me being negative Moi, I posted on the site on Jan 24th 2007 that the tiges would struggle to win a game, Why ? Me having an axe to grind ? No,
Tell you why, I dont agree with the game plan( it is doing the playing group no good by going sidways and backwards-players are confused), The players certainly dont understand whats required and most of the playing group are overrated.
I beleive the playing group is mainly intreverted and this has caused severe problems.. Can tell you that opposition clubs try to hit the tiges early as they will drop there heads. Thus 3 100 point thrashing last year where they gave up. Might add the gave up in the crucnh ball game against the saints, thats not a good sign.
Furthermore, than dont play as a team and dont play with passion. Unless they can magically recreate these, they will struggle. Fact!
This might be negative but told you all this before round 1 and you just want to say I a negative,would think these are cold facts.
If you think different, thats your opinion I am a fine with that.
Although when people start pushing up players like Schultz, Meyer etc. would think there barking up the wrong tree, Very intreverted and not the answer,. I might add that most of the recruits over the past 3 years are intreverted.
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"I have lost interest in footy this year based solely on yours and Jackstar's comments.."
I told you it would end in tears.
Let's meet at the G on Friday for a group hug - Jack can shout - :rollin
Anyone got a ticket for me ;D
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"I have lost interest in footy this year based solely on yours and Jackstar's comments.."
I told you it would end in tears.
Let's meet at the G on Friday for a group hug - Jack can shout - :rollin
Anyone got a ticket for me ;D
Pass!
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"I have lost interest in footy this year based solely on yours and Jackstar's comments.."
I told you it would end in tears.
Let's meet at the G on friday for a group hug - Jack can shout - :rollin
Actually I will be there but working, have to watch the Demons so no drinks for this one. :cheers
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MJS, just gave tickets away to you know who, you will have too pay but more importantly, why arent you a member ? Even I am ::)
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Well it's simple - I have lost interest in footy this year based solely on yours and Bull's comments.
:rollin
:rollin
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I have been clouded by Bullys opinion. now I have lost interest as well :rollin
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Well it's simple - I have lost interest in footy this year based solely on yours and Bull's comments.
:rollin
:rollin
Poor Pet ::) :'(
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IF Sheeds does coach the tiges next year. 10,000 members will jump on board, which will mean $1,000,000.in revenue.
Anyone who has lost interest you will find, it will be caused by watching gabbage football each week. The drawn game was the worst game of footy I have seen this season, and I usually go to three games a week
ah sheeds coaching RFC next year, can see how you might have worn out your welcome Jackstar, this old chestnut just wont go away hey, more like supporters still living in a bygone era, it aint gonna happen....repeat AINT ever gonna happen.
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Have worn out any welcome, couldnt give a rats actually. ::)
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"I have lost interest in footy this year based solely on yours and Jackstar's comments.."
I told you it would end in tears.
Let's meet at the G on Friday for a group hug - Jack can shout - :rollin
Anyone got a ticket for me ;D
Ill get you in MJS.
If you want to come along PM me and you can come and sit with me, i have a spare ticket so you wont have to pay either!!!
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"I have lost interest in footy this year based solely on yours and Jackstar's comments.."
I told you it would end in tears.
Let's meet at the G on Friday for a group hug - Jack can shout - :rollin
Anyone got a ticket for me ;D
Ill get you in Malcolm.
If you want to come along PM me and you can come and sit with me, i have a spare ticket so you wont have to pay either!!!
Might come and sit with you all, one big happy family. ::) :rollin :rollin
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Have worn out any welcome, couldnt give a rats actually. ::)
well your rantings tell us otherwise.
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IF Sheeds does coach the tiges next year. 10,000 members will jump on board, which will mean $1,000,000.in revenue.
Anyone who has lost interest you will find, it will be caused by watching gabbage football each week. The drawn game was the worst game of footy I have seen this season, and I usually go to three games a week
ah sheeds coaching RFC next year, can see how you might have worn out your welcome Jackstar, this old chestnut just wont go away hey, more like supporters still living in a bygone era, it aint gonna happen....repeat AINT ever gonna happen.
Is that you froars?
I agree with you re Sheeds - he has as much chance as coaching RFC as KB. For one thing, he's about 60, and that's incredibly old. I know some 60 year olds and they are hopeless - need help with everything. It's embarrassing.
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Have worn out any welcome, couldnt give a rats actually. ::)
well your rantings tell us otherwise.
Really, only stating facts.
And ,if they want to play the same gabbage football for the remainder of the season as they have for most of the first 11 rounds.
God help the marketing dept trying to sell memberships for next year.
The drawn game against Brisbane was the worst game of football you would want to see. Never seen a game with so many turnovers.
And never seen a captain jump for joy at a draw either, now thats a first.
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IF Sheeds does coach the tiges next year. 10,000 members will jump on board, which will mean $1,000,000.in revenue.
Anyone who has lost interest you will find, it will be caused by watching gabbage football each week. The drawn game was the worst game of footy I have seen this season, and I usually go to three games a week
ah sheeds coaching RFC next year, can see how you might have worn out your welcome Jackstar, this old chestnut just wont go away hey, more like supporters still living in a bygone era, it aint gonna happen....repeat AINT ever gonna happen.
Is that you froars?
I agree with you re Sheeds - he has as much chance as coaching RFC as KB. For one thing, he's about 60, and that's incredibly old. I know some 60 year olds and they are hopeless - need help with everything. It's embarassing.
Even with Carlton supporters? :o :o :shh
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Have worn out any welcome, couldnt give a rats actually. ::)
well your rantings tell us otherwise.
I reckon Rogerd3 is Moi :rollin :rollin
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Have worn out any welcome, couldnt give a rats actually. ::)
well your rantings tell us otherwise.
I reckon Rogerd3 is Moi :rollin :rollin
And what a quality person he is :thumbsup
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Even with Carlton supporters?
Do we play them again this year? Never know your luck in a big city - altho sometimes it aint that big :lol
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Have worn out any welcome, couldnt give a rats actually. ::)
well your rantings tell us otherwise.
And what a quality person he is :thumbsup
Maybe it's the real Roger Dean? He's always up for a chat at the Tommy Hafey lunches. I know that Ron Branton used to post here - very informative chap and one of my favourites. We know that current RFC staff are always logging in so maybe a past champion like Roger feels like sticking it to Jack - I mean why wouldn't he ? :rollin
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I am a tad confused -
Jack you said Tezza wouldn't be there next year, now back on page 13 you've said you think he will walk.
I agree with MT he wont walk - it is not in his make-up so that means he will stay, unless he gets sacked and he wont get sacked and nor should he. So I think the chances of there being a change of Coach at Punt Road are slim at best
Now this arguement that if Sheeds coaches Richmond then that will equate to an extra 10K members and over $1 mil in the bank - well I reckon that's all subjective - most astute judges thought appointing Tezza would mean a huge lift in membership and sure it has grown but not at the levels that many thought it would.
:gotigers
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Have worn out any welcome, couldnt give a rats actually. ::)
well your rantings tell us otherwise.
I reckon Rogerd3 is Moi :rollin :rollin
can assure you i am my own person with my own views, have been watching with interest this and other RFC supporter sites, it really does make for interesting reading.
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Now this arguement that if Sheeds coaches Richmond then that will equate to an extra 10K members and over $1 mil in the bank - well I reckon that's all subjective - most astute jusges thought appointing Tezza would mean a huge lift in membership and dure it had grown but not at the levels that many thought it would.
:gotigers
Hmm don't know about that. We currently have our highest membership, despite not winning a game. Geelong are on top of the ladder and their membership has fallen by around 3,000. :-\
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I want our club to be successful as much as anyone on the site.
:gotigers
Sure! As long as Wallace isn't part of the deal ::)
Tell you why, I dont agree with the game plan( it is doing the playing group no good by going sidways and backwards-players are confused), The players certainly dont understand whats required and most of the playing group are overrated.
strange statement that, cos statistically, we use the corridor onny secong to geelong by just. we havent gone sudeways or backwards much this year, the only game we did was in the 2nd and 3rd quarter v the lions and that is because they flooded the corridor and centre square, and it took til the last quarter for our young and inexper team to work around that
not sure our game plan is as bad as you say, the bombers chip the ball more than any other team in the afl, and our game plan is not what is costing us
it is lack of experience and a couple of dud senior players
in a couples of yrs time, these kids will have experience, and the duds will be gone and we will be a force
some things u say are on teh money but to say our game plan sucks is totally wrong, and for a team that is last, we have the most goals from kick outs in the afl, must be a pretty good plan to me
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"I have lost interest in footy this year based solely on yours and Jackstar's comments.."
I told you it would end in tears.
Let's meet at the G on friday for a group hug - Jack can shout - :rollin
Actually I will be there but working, have to watch the Demons so no drinks for this one. :cheers
did u watch the way port set up as part of your job, must say who ever it was whether it was u or someone else did a bloody bad job!
and that mal michael, worst pick up in afl history, he is crap no doubt about it and still has not beaten a good fwd this year and fletcher, wow, peels off and plays 3rd man up, but is unnaccountable. joel is much better than him at that job!
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Number 9 on and on and on and on .....
Anywayz - Like I have said before and will for the last time now., if you love the Tigers you will let Wallace see out the 5 years, then re-assess.
Don't think any coach could of turned us around in just over 2 years 'even sheeds'.
Talking about game plans, every side has played some krap games this year not just us.
And really apart from the position on the ladder 'which I am not happy about mind you' we haven't played to bad a footy. I firmly beleive it will come together with a bit more weeding.
You know fair dinkum take out just about any sides best ruck and forward and it is going to have an impact, just moreso with us coz of where we are at.
As another example over the past 10 years or so look how quick the Saints Brisbane and now the Hawks have turned from krap kickers to contenders ....
We have shown enough for this to happen 'possibly , hopefully' in the next 2 - 3 years.
And just for you Jack and your all mighty bummers .. They kind of remind me of the Tigers when we played above ourselves and fooled ourselves - only difference with you guys is you wont even make the finals and in the next 2 - 3 years I will be LMAO at the bombres as they come crashing down...... :rollin :wallywink
NB: If you don't care as much as you say why do you keep going on and on and on and on
NUMBER 9
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It always amazes me that certain Richmond people have this sad fascination with Sheeds coming back to coach us even after all these years yet never mention the other Ex-Tiger in the AFL senior coaching ranks. Maybe because Micky doesn't tease and use us to get a new contract at the Pies.
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Patrick Smith today in the Australian makes some short comments on Plough and the other coaches with their teams down the bottom of the ladder:
Away from Daniher, football's unique beat goes on. Ross Lyon has won just five matches and on Tuesday gave a news conference that was neither clever, informative nor funny. Another one of those, another loss, another soft tissue injury and the surge will overpower him.
In Fremantle, Chris Connolly has won five matches, too. Time is spinning. An unthinking president has said if he does not get the Dockers to the finals then it is off with the coach's head.
Terry Wallace has won a game and drawn another and has Richmond at the bottom of the ladder. Every Tuesday the media gathers at his feet. He is in the middle of a five-year contract. No questions asked. An hour can unravel into an afternoon and beyond. Brisbane has won four matches but coach Leigh Matthews has taken the club to four grand finals and three premierships. Coaching at the Gabba is done to Matthews Standard Time.
So football has no watch. No tick tock. It tells the time by circumstances and expectations alone. They are football's alarm bells. Daniher turned them off just after 2pm yesterday. It had become deafening.
http://www.theaustralian.news.com.au/story/0,20867,21979490-12270,00.html
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Thanks WP ;D
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Thanks WP ;D
I was talking more about when he was appointed
SOme absolutely gold in those archives :thumbsup
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Some decent stuff in here too, but off I go to have another look at OER history ;D
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Well our choice back then for an experienced coach was between Wallace and Eade and now they are both gone without achieving the ultimate although Eade wants to go on and coach a third club.
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All I know about this thread is I'm seven years older from when it started lol
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He's Not fun to list en to on the radio
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All I know about this thread is I'm seven years older from when it started lol
:help
:thatsgold :rollin
And we're still where we were when we started :lol