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Richmond Rant / Re: Favourite player game

« Last post by JP Tiger on Today at 10:28:55 PM »

Armstrong  5
Faull          7 -
Gray         14
Lalor        13 +
Taranto     2 -
Hotton     14

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Richmond Rant / Re: Favourite player game

« Last post by WilliamPowell on Today at 10:13:27 PM »

Armstrong  5
Faull          7 -
Gray         14 +
Lalor        12
Taranto     3 -
Hotton     14

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Richmond Rant / Re: Jack Ross [merged]

« Last post by the claw on Today at 03:42:04 PM »

Turns out Ross is our best kick inside F50  .


YOUR club's best money kick - every club's No.1 (min. 50 kicks into F50)

Club               Player           Kick inside 50 to retention %

Adelaide       Taylor Walker   56.7%
Brisbane       Eric Hipwood   50.0%
Carlton        Patrick Cripps   49.1%
Collingwood Patrick Lipinski   65.5%
Essendon     Zach Merrett   54.4%
Fremantle    Murphy Reid   66.7%
Geelong      Tom Atkins   68.3%
Gold Coast   Ben Ainsworth   61.0%
GWS            Tom Green   55.1%
Hawthorn     Karl Amon   58.7%
Melbourne  Kysaiah Pickett   52.9%
North Luke Davies-Uniacke   48.8%
Port   Jason Horne-Francis   48.4%
Richmond     Jack Ross   46.1%
St Kilda Marcus Windhager   56.5%
Sydney       Chad Warner   58.3%
West Coast  Liam Duggan   51.7%
W.Bulldogs    Joel Freijah   54.7%

https://www.zerohanger.com/the-money-kick-who-is-the-afls-best-kick-inside-50-172028/

47.2 IS The average yet our so called best kick into the fwd 50 is below that average and is the only one of the 18 clubs.
Its not a flattering stat for the team or Ross.

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Richmond Rant / Re: Our midfield

« Last post by the claw on Today at 02:22:24 PM »

End of season - CBA stats -


Toby Nankervis   457   83%   31yo his style of play likely means when the end comes it will come quickly.
            
Jacob Hopper   466   81%   29yo Hopper a good inside mid but has little pace and is found wanting on the spread    
      
Tim Taranto   428   81%   28yo See Hopper total liability defensively too often because of his lack of pace.    

Dion Prestia   189   68%   33yo  been a great servant but is  slowing and it kills us again on the spread and unable to run defensively. up its time to delist or make sure he is there only for cover and depth.    trouble is when clubs keep these types they cant help themselves and they play all year just look at McIntosh. Mid numbers are horrible reckon all of Dow Ross and Prestia will stay not because they are going to take us anywhere   but for depth due to those poor numbers.
                                       
Kane McAuliffe   70   59%   A kid who has very good pace who crunches tackles and should become a good player.                              
                                          
Samson Ryan   25   56%   Looks a flop atm he will enter his 6th season next year and turns 25 this december.
                                                                  
Thomson Dow   130   44%   Slow battler has no real weapons and kills us on the spread.   
                           
Jack Ross   194   34%   25yo 92 game plodder who needs to go. He is typical of clubs making the same mistake over and over and not making a tough call. will be another very ordinary player we have got to 100 games. Early days it was okay but now we need to use games he is getting on kids and actually replace him with a mature mid WHO CAN ACTUALLY PLAY CONSISTENTLY WELL..

Kamdyn McIntosh   135   24% delisted.

Can see all of them being retained this year bar McIntosh obviously. but we sure as hell need to not only replace them but get our mid numbers up to a sustainable level without them on the list.
In Three years time it is not inconceivable, indeed likely all of them are gone bar McAuliffe hopefully  and probably Taranto maybe Hopper as well as vets..

This year lets say we dont cut any genuine mids at all i would go something like this in this draft.

2024 crop
Lalor
Hotton
Smillie
McAuliffe

Pick 2 2025 mid
Pick 3 2025 mid
f/s Kellaway 2025 mid.
ND pick that we get in. Use on a ruckman. so there is a young ruckman.

F/A 2025. mature bodied mid if available or small forward or ruckman.
PSSS , MSD , PSD  and Rookie Draft  2025.Utilise at least 2 of the rookie sytems  Target a few state league types may not be on mids but flankers. Get 8 new faces in make sure we get 5 mids of differing types a ruckman and a small forward

Our mid numbers would then be where they need to be .
The current mids we have plus 5 this off season would equal 15. Pretty sure we are going to take at least three regardless and we would still have to cut the likes of ross dow Sonsie and retire Prestia over the coming seasons so still work to do over a three year period.

All sounds good BUT we seem to have no luck in selecting young ruckman and developing them.
I think our last good draftee ruckman was Ottens??

We probably could have got Grundy 2? Years ago, who are the potential 25 y o ruckman going around? If we could target one of them that would be my preference, any comment??

I think we have not managed to bring ruckmen on simply because we don't seem to put much time into it. We tend to take them as an after thought and ultimately are forced to go after mature types. Imo i think this damning in many ways.

Ruckmen we have taken since Toby who we took  in a trade for pick 46 end of 2016. But first the list of ruckmen we had in 2016.

Hampson a right dud we traded pick 32 for him in 2013

I Maric another trade from 2011 with pick 37 Ivan was shot by the time we traded in  Nankervis.

Vickery more a forward than ruck imo.  we used a good pick on him with #8 in 2008 and we at least got 100 games out of him,  mainly because of where we drafted him. Was soon exposed when he went to the Hawks.


Ivan Soldo a cat (B) Investment. Was always a

So thats it we bought in Nankervis end of 2016 and the others we had would soon be gone or exposed.

2016 - Nankervis, trade #46
2017 CC-J #20. Was a 50 50 bet on what he was, a Forward or a ruckman we needed both and we hedged our bets.
2018 nothing
2019 nothing
2020 Ryan #40, Colina Cat (B)
2021 nothing
2022 nothing
2023 Naismith DFA aged 31. OH-B (cat B)
2024 Sims #28. A kpf who may be a second ruckman or fwd/ruck.
2025 nothing.

Thats our investment in ruckmen for the last 10 seasons little wonder we cannot find one to develop.

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Richmond Rant / Re: Forward line

« Last post by the claw on Today at 01:00:31 PM »

We scored at 42.3% which put us at 17th place overall.  The best rating was Geelong at 52.6%, which makes for just over a 10% difference between the best & second worst ...

That screams a significant result at me - NOBODY IS ANY GOOD AT KICKING INTO THEIR FORWARD 50!  It's not just us, everybody is just ordinary at doing it.   

Even the best side are losing possession 47.4% of the time!  It's close enough to pot luck, even for the best at it.  That leaves plenty of room for a rapid improvement!         

Those stats were for retaining the ball inside 50 not kicking into it.
 Our delivery into the forward half has been horrid. We consistently miss open targets, thats when the forwards actually find space,and work to make space.  We kick to packs often outnumbers two on ones or just blindly throw it on the boot under pressure we kick it along the ground creating more pressure.
The ball doesnt stay in the forward half because we generally kick it to the oppositions advantage AND THEY JUST BRING IT OUT EASILY.

We have slow mids we have running players who are ordinary by foot or just make dumb decisions. we have running players who are slow and cannot break lines and create space, we have blokes who poo their pants every time an oppo player runs at em and they panic kick or handball to a team mate under more pressure, all of this and more
Another one  our failures to come away fast and clean from stoppage. We are 2nd last for clearances.

If you want  forward half improvement,  fix what happens up the ground first. We may get significant improvement if the kids can take big steps but most likely it will be incremental hence i dont think it will be quick.

Our problem we will continue to play the usual slow culprits and poor kicks, and our kids are just that kids who will take time to develop no matter how quickly we wish them to develop quickly.

We have recruited some real quick players with very good skills that will help but the question is will they play them.

Players like Grlj, Retschko, Cumming, Algar, Hotton, Lalor Smillie Campbell McAuliffe, Even N R-T and Peucker  have attributes that most of our older players dont have  that will go some way to addressing most of the above shortcomings  both forward and thru the midfield and even the backline. The sooner we play them as a collective the better.

I will ask again will they play them ? do they have the courage to go with these kids who have such good attributes for roles we are lacking in.


Just my opinion
We pick the number of experienced players we think we need to help the kids in each area of the ground i think we have 11 all up who are needed and thats enough and we build the rest of the team around them with kids.

Most weeks last year  we played played around 11 younger players each game. imo we need to do that every  game again especially with most of them with a proper preseason and injury free to start with.

Rapid improvement well i cant see it improvement yes but we have to give our kids time to properly develop before heaping expectations on them.

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Richmond Rant / Re: Favourite player game

« Last post by WilliamPowell on Today at 09:46:16 AM »

Armstrong  5
Faull          8
Gray         13 +
Lalor        12
Taranto     3 -
Hotton     14

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Richmond Rant / Re: Favourite player game

« Last post by Wazza on Yesterday at 11:33:28 PM »

Armstrong  5
Faull          8
Gray         12 -
Lalor        12
Taranto     4 +
Hotton     14

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Richmond Rant / Re: General preseason training discussion [merged]

« Last post by MintOnLamb on Yesterday at 04:36:45 PM »

Or the PR team who writes about Victoria’s big build projects

Are they the projects that didn’t go ahead, the ones 5 times over budget or the ones going ahead that we don’t need

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Richmond Rant / Re: Favourite player game

« Last post by WilliamPowell on Yesterday at 10:12:59 AM »

Armstrong  5
Faull          8
Gray         13 +
Lalor        12
Rioli          0 - sorry Jnr
Taranto     3
Hotton     14

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Richmond Rant / Re: General preseason training discussion [merged]

« Last post by Hard Roar Tiger on Yesterday at 09:08:34 AM »

Or the PR team who writes about Victoria’s big build projects