I'd rather delist or trade Morton and use both picks in the draft as they will get us two good players which is better than 1 good player
We have enough midfield guns, we need depth
ooh please. Scully adds to our depth.
No guarantees those picks will deliver anything descent especially with WGS concessions.
Geelong had the midfield that what won them flags. No one knows who to tag at the Lexus Centre. Swan, Thomas, Pendelbury, Sidebottom the list goes on.
We add Scully to our list and Jack would be creaming his pants at the delivery coming in.
We are 1 A grader short in the back half IMO and when we are pushing near the top if one of Vickery or Gus dont come on we should trade for a top ruckman. This would complete our list.
We already have 3 Top 3 draft picks and 1 Pick 6 making up our midfield, how many other midfield's have comprised of that? The only one I can think of is Carlton and they are still too thin down back and up forward, it is not their midfield holding them back. Our pick this year will be something like 8-16 and our compensation pick if we use it in 2012 will be about pick 17-20 there are plenty of gun players picked up with these selections with the talent networks the way they are in modern recruitment.
Jack Darling went Pick 26, Nathan Fyfe Pick 20, Luke Tapscott Pick 20, Steele Sidebottom Pick 11, Luke Shuey Pick 18, Jackson Trengove Pick 22 ,David Zaharakis Pick 23, Jack Redden Pick 25, Dayne Beams Pick 29, Jack Grimes Pick 14, Callan Ward Pick 19, Jack Riewoldt Pick 13, Shaun Hampson Pick 17, Chris Dawes Pick 28.
Would you be willing to give up a combination of Fyfe/Shuey/Tapscott and Darling/Riewoldt/Dawes just for Scully? I certainly wouldn't, just like I would prefer Pick 3, 20 & Josh Kennedy to Chris Judd.
We could have two of these players with those picks which would go a long way towards fixing our depth in areas we are weaker, just like Carlton up forward and down back. Not to mention it should be easier to balance the TPP with some players like the ones I listed there rather than another player like Scully who will demand massive money. West Coast only had Judd, Kerr & Cousins as their absolute superstar mids, potentially we have more than that already.
Of course you need to back your recruiters, although ours have done pretty well with our 1st round picks since 2006 so I'd be willing to back them in.
The thing is you are not only taking the chance to get more than 1 gun player, but you are creating a more even team over the park and not putting your eggs in one basket. What if Judd/Scully was to do their knee? Your entire investment is damaged rather than perhaps only one of two or one of three going down. Even now Scully is injured and may walk out of the club at the end of the year, that's a massive loss where as with more than one player you'd still have something left. Sure Collingwood has their elite players in the midfield, but the rest of their side is so even across the ground, the Saints who are weak at the bottom end of their 22 have had nothing but failure at the last hurdle.
Each side you listed has only 4 or 5 elite mids, when we already have Lids, Cotchin, Martin, Foley & potentially Conca. That's already 4-5, so do we really need to trade away 2-3 first rounders to add another to that list? Other than the A grade mids to build the enginer room around, you really do need a good 10-12 quality midfielders to have a successful side. Multiple first rounders would be a much better way to get there than just trying to get another elite player. I'd rather we traded for another ruckman as the last piece of the puzzle.
We have Lids, Martin and Cotchin as A graders. Foley has been out of the game for 2 years so lets just wait before labelling him A grade material. Conca 5 games in again too early.
Midfield and defence wins Flags. How many flags did Plugger and G Ablett win.
Midfielders kicking goals is where we want to get to and IMO a Midfield with Cotch, Martin, Lids, Scully, Foley, Conca would be hard for any club to match.
Our second priority or close first is developing/drafting for a A grade Defender. Anyone who thinks Mcguane will come on must be on some serious hooch. They are your everyday battlers that would barely feature in any top 8 side. We so need one of Grimes/Astbury to become our general down back or we are stuffed.
In 2012 we should aim trade for a ruckman but not yet. Until we are seriously challenging i wouldnt be chasing a ruckman yet, we have a few holes yet to fill.
Lastly who said about anything about trading both our first round picks. I would offer up our first plus Morton. If Foley doesnt come on or still seems injury prone i would consider offering him up and the Tambling pick, thus keeping our 1st pick. After all we gifted the Cats 12 and 16 for Otto
You also forget these 1st round picks are almost like early to late 2nds due to WGS.