Changes for next week's game against the Saints?

[Hellenic Tiger]

i dont think you can drop a kid after there first game. king will come in but it should be for someone else.

Agree you can't drop a first gamer you would play them for at least 3 or 4 games.

[jackstar is back again]

who plays on Nick Riewoldt?
Wouldnt try McGaune or Rance
If Moore aint right, thats leave Thursfield.
Thursfield has gone alright on Riewoldt in the past, but that was 3 years ago

[Infamy]

As for Edwards Murphy had 19 possessions to half time and Edwards gave away a goal just before half time when we were beginning to close the gap. I don't believe it is too harsh to be critical of him. His use of the ball was not good. We can't afford to give away cheap possession and easily goals

Edwards wasn't on Murphy until AFTER half time, he was specifically sent to him after he had such a strong first half.


As for whoever said that Lids needed to stand up in such a critical game, again I remind you that Lids barely had a preseason and is clearly underdone, secondly... how on earth was last night a "critical" game? It was round 1 after we finished 15th the year before. Finals and games to make the finals are critical, Round 1 in a development year isn't.

[Loui Tufga]

As for Edwards Murphy had 19 possessions to half time and Edwards gave away a goal just before half time when we were beginning to close the gap. I don't believe it is too harsh to be critical of him. His use of the ball was not good. We can't afford to give away cheap possession and easily goals

Edwards wasn't on Murphy until AFTER half time, he was specifically sent to him after he had such a strong first half.


As for whoever said that Lids needed to stand up in such a critical game, again I remind you that Lids barely had a preseason and is clearly underdone, secondly... how on earth was last night a "critical" game? It was round 1 after we finished 15th the year before. Finals and games to make the finals are critical, Round 1 in a development year isn't.

Infamay, I said it and I will re literate my case tomorow, stay tuned......

[MADTIGER2010]

Edwards might be the only one to make way for Post 

[Loui Tufga]

As for whoever said that Lids needed to stand up in such a critical game, again I remind you that Lids barely had a preseason and is clearly underdone, secondly... how on earth was last night a "critical" game? It was round 1 after we finished 15th the year before. Finals and games to make the finals are critical, Round 1 in a development year isn't.

Mate, I probably over exaggerated a little but surly a round 1 clash in front of 70,000 people with the whole AFL community tuned in, a game that is in threat of us loosing because of past poor performances and a game that could in reality make or break or season has to be classed as an important match if not critical??
Yes it's only round 1 but hey how good would a win have been for a number of reasons?

As for Lids Yes he had a interrupted pre season but so did Judd and he still manged to rip us a new one. All I am saying is it's time for Lids to stand up and consistently be the player we all no he can be. He is playing across half back, it's not the hardest position in the world to play is it? He should have and could have played better!
With a bit of luck he will realise this himself and fire up next week but as a club if we are going to go forward he is one player thats need to make more of an impact and not just be there for the ride like he was on Thursday!!

[Infamy]

Maybe he could have played better, but you know what, he didn't play that bad a game after half time.
Sure he made a mistake towards the end of the game, but he doesn't make many it stands out because its so rare

I'm sure plenty will be eating their words in a few weeks time
That post was not exactly worth the announcement of "Stay tuned until tomorrow" either, you wrote two small paragraphs, not War & Peace

[Loui Tufga]

Maybe he could have played better, but you know what, he didn't play that bad a game after half time.

He had the same amount of possessions in the first half that he had in the second? the second quarter was his best stats wise but still he only averages 5 touches per quarter for the game, this was the problem.

I'm sure plenty will be eating their words in a few weeks time

I not sure anyone will be eating there words? All's been said is he had a bad game, i'm sure he will play better in weeks to come but in reality he has to be doesn't he??

That post was not exactly worth the announcement of "Stay tuned until tomorrow" either, you wrote two small paragraphs, not War & Peace

Yeah, sorry about that, I was feeling a little tougher last night after a couple of beers, I just couldn't see the keyboard to type it out

[Infamy]

Maybe he could have played better, but you know what, he didn't play that bad a game after half time.

He had the same amount of possessions in the first half that he had in the second? the second quarter was his best stats wise but still he only averages 5 touches per quarter for the game, this was the problem.

You do know that is only 1-1.2 disposals a quarter off his average over the last two years where he has been in the AA squad?
This off almost no preseason

[Loui Tufga]

Maybe he could have played better, but you know what, he didn't play that bad a game after half time.

He had the same amount of possessions in the first half that he had in the second? the second quarter was his best stats wise but still he only averages 5 touches per quarter for the game, this was the problem.

You do know that is only 1-1.2 disposals a quarter off his average over the last two years where he has been in the AA squad?
This off almost no preseason

Cool, we clearly beg to differ. I am sure he will turn it around next week, I can't wait to really see him hit his straps, as I have said he is an important part of the cog, at the least the run will do him good.

Cheers

[Penelope]

thats a fair call tassie tiger. Lids made two shocking errors that resulted in goals to the scum that if had been made by some other players would have resulted in a barrage of calls for their head on a stick.

[Judge Roughneck]

Half the time he was trying to punch the ball away from the bloody Other teams ruckman.

As for whoever said that Lids needed to stand up in such a critical game, again I remind you that Lids barely had a preseason and is clearly underdone, secondly... how on earth was last night a "critical" game? It was round 1 after we finished 15th the year before. Finals and games to make the finals are critical, Round 1 in a development year isn't.

Mate, I probably over exaggerated a little but surly a round 1 clash in front of 70,000 people with the whole AFL community tuned in, a game that is in threat of us loosing because of past poor performances and a game that could in reality make or break or season has to be classed as an important match if not critical??
Yes it's only round 1 but hey how good would a win have been for a number of reasons?

As for Lids Yes he had a interrupted pre season but so did Judd and he still manged to rip us a new one. All I am saying is it's time for Lids to stand up and consistently be the player we all no he can be. He is playing across half back, it's not the hardest position in the world to play is it? He should have and could have played better!
With a bit of luck he will realise this himself and fire up next week but as a club if we are going to go forward he is one player thats need to make more of an impact and not just be there for the ride like he was on Thursday!!

[big tone]

Maybe he could have played better, but you know what, he didn't play that bad a game after half time.

He had the same amount of possessions in the first half that he had in the second? the second quarter was his best stats wise but still he only averages 5 touches per quarter for the game, this was the problem.

You do know that is only 1-1.2 disposals a quarter off his average over the last two years where he has been in the AA squad?
This off almost no preseason

Cool, we clearly beg to differ. I am sure he will turn it around next week, I can't wait to really see him hit his straps, as I have said he is an important part of the cog, at the least the run will do him good.

Cheers

Let me guess Tiger from Tas, you were not at the game???

[WilliamPowell]

"Being really harsh - I would consider dropping Nahas based solely on his selfish brain fade in the 3rd - yes that's how disgusted I was by it"

Watch the game again WP!!!!!!!!! Nahas was one of our most constructive players! You cannot ask the kid to take them on and then get upset when he makes a mistake. And yes you are being WAY to harsh.

I bet you all the tea in China, Nahas does not get dropped next week.

Firstly big tone I don't like tea 

Have I at any point said Nahas played a shocking game - that he was terrible?

No what I've said and you wont change my mind on it was the "selfish brain fade" was extremely costly and it was a very low point of the night - we had sunch momentum and for a few minutes we lost that we had a 14 point lead at 3/4 time I reckon that turn over easily cost another goal. For me it was a stand out turnover but I might add it wans't the only time he did it. Yeah he was constuctive on a number occassions BUT sometimes you have to do the team things not try and be the hero.

And I wonder that if it had of been Edwards or Jackson who did it would some people so forgiving?

[Loui Tufga]

Maybe he could have played better, but you know what, he didn't play that bad a game after half time.

He had the same amount of possessions in the first half that he had in the second? the second quarter was his best stats wise but still he only averages 5 touches per quarter for the game, this was the problem.

You do know that is only 1-1.2 disposals a quarter off his average over the last two years where he has been in the AA squad?
This off almost no preseason

Cool, we clearly beg to differ. I am sure he will turn it around next week, I can't wait to really see him hit his straps, as I have said he is an important part of the cog, at the least the run will do him good.

Cheers

Let me guess Tiger from Tas, you were not at the game???

Can tell your guessing Big Tone, Section M23 Row BB seat 6 AFL in the members if you really want all the details!
Why do you ask, I also watched the game on at home on replay adn Guess what, lids didn't play any better in my lounge than he did at the G, go figure