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OER PHANTOM DRAFT 2012
« on: November 02, 2012, 03:08:08 AM »
Okay we're ready to go  :thumbsup.
 
I'll post more draft info about all the potential draftees in the next few days to help us along as we get into the later rounds.


TEAMS

Adelaide - jordie2tivendale
Brisbane - tiga
Carlton - Mr Magic
Coll'wood - Yeahright
Essendon - Stripes
Fremantle - tigs2011
Geelong -    Tiger-From-Tas
Gold Coast - one-eyed
GWS -         Danog
Hawthorn - Dookie
Melbourne - tiga
North Melb - Dookie
Port Adel - mightytiges
Richmond - Tiger-From-Tas
St Kilda -     JVT
Sydney -     smokey_58au
West Coast - Danog
W.Bulldogs - WilliamPowell


DRAFT ORDER

ROUND ONE

1. G.W.S. - Lachie Whitfield
2. G.W.S. - Jimmy Toumpas
3. G.W.S. - Brodie Grundy
4. Melbourne - Oliver Wines
5. W.Bulldogs - Troy Menzel
6. W.Bulldogs - Kristian Jaksch
7. Port Adelaide - Sam Mayes
8. Brisbane - Jackson Macrae
9. Richmond - Jake Stringer
10. Essendon - Joe Daniher (Father/Son)
11. Carlton - Nick Vlastuin
12. G.W.S. - Lachie Plowman
13. Gold Coast - Jonathan O'Rourke
14. G.W.S. - Tim Membrey
15. North Melb. -  Dayle Garlett
16. Geelong - Josh Simpson
17. Fremantle - Mason Shaw
18. Collingwood - Thomas Clurey
19. Collingwood - Taylor Garner
20. Adelaide - Xavier Richards
21. Collingwood - Ben Kennedy
22. W.Bulldogs - Jesse Lonergan
23. Sydney - Tanner Smith

END OF ROUND ONE

24. Brisbane - Sam Colquhoun

ROUND TWO

25. St Kilda - Nathan Hrovat
26. St Kilda - Adam Carter
27. Melbourne - Jack Viney (Father/Son)
28. G.W.S. - Spencer White
29. Hawthorn - Nathan Wright
30. Port Adelaide - Nick Graham
31. Port Adelaide - Jason Pongracic
32. Richmond - Tim Broomhead
33. Brisbane - Matthew Haynes
34. Richmond - Rory Atkins
35. Essendon - Marvin Warrell
36. Carlton - Jackson Thurlow
37. Fremantle - Samuel Lowrie
38. North Melb. -  Matthew McDonough
39. Collingwood - Liam Flaherty
40. Fremantle - Mason Middleton
41. St Kilda - Liam McBean
42. North Melb. -  Lewis Pierce
43. Richmond - Shane Nelson
44. St Kilda - Aidan Corr
45. Sydney - Andrew Boston

ROUND THREE

46. West Coast - Tim O'Brien
47. Sydney - Dean Towers
48. North Melb. - Louis Herbert
49. Melbourne - Michael Close
50. W. Bulldogs - Lachlan Hunter (Father/Son)
51. W. Bulldogs - Kamdyn McIntosh
52. Essendon - Jacob Ballard
53. Melbourne -  Marco Paparone
54. Adelaide - Shannon Taylor
55. Essendon - Tullio DeMatteis
56. Carlton - Mason Wood
57. Gold Coast - Matthew Dick
58. North Melb. - Leigh Osborne
59. Gold Coast - Jack Frost
60. Fremantle - Steve Baldasso
61. West Coast - Laine Wilkins
62. West Coast - Nicholas Rodda
63. North Melb. - Matthew Wallis
64. Adelaide - Ian Callinan (promoted rookie)
65. G.W.S. - Mitch Clisby
66. Sydney - Max Duffy
67. Sydney - Ryan Johnson

ROUND FOUR

68. Hawthorn - Darcey Fort
69. G.W.S. - Pass
70. Melbourne - Pass
71. Carlton - Cameron Banfield
72. Hawthorn - Tim Sumner
73. Melbourne - Michael Evans (promoted rookie)
74. Melbourne - Dan Nicholson (promoted rookie)

75. Essendon - Sam Siggins
76. Carlton - Tim McGenniss
77. St Kilda - James Stewart
78. North Melbourne - Majak Daw (promoted rookie)
79. Geelong -  Jarrod Lienert
80. Fremantle - Clancee Pearce (promoted rookie)
81. West Coast - Brad Dick (promoted rookie)

82. Collingwood  - Nick Newman
83. Port Adelaide - Pass

ROUND FIVE

84. G.W.S. - Sam Frost (promoted rookie)
85. W.Bulldogs - Pass
86. Port Adelaide - Tom Jonas (promoted rookie)
87. Brisbane - Jack Crisp (promoted rookie)

88. Richmond - Pass
89. Essendon -  Tyler Blake
90. Carlton - Levi Casboult (promoted rookie)
91. St Kilda - Sam Dunell (promoted rookie)
92. North Melbourne - Sam Gibson (promoted rookie)
93. Geelong - Jesse Stringer (promoted rookie)
94. Fremantle - Lee Spurr (promoted rookie)
95. Collingwood - Marley Williams (promoted rookie)

96. Sydney - Pass

ROUND SIX

97. G.W.S. - Andrew Phillips (promoted rookie)
98. W.Bulldogs - Tom Campbell (promoted rookie)
99. Brisbane - Niall McKeever (promoted rookie)

100. Richmond - Pass
101. Essendon - Harley Montgomery
102. Carlton - Zach Tuohy (promoted rookie)
103. North Melbourne - Aaron Mullett (promoted rookie)

104. Sydney - Pass

ROUND SEVEN

105. W.Bulldogs - Jason Johannisen (promoted rookie)
106. Essendon - Mark Baguley (promoted rookie)
107. Sydney - Harry Cunningham (promoted rookie)

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Re: OER PHANTOM DRAFT 2012
« Reply #1 on: November 02, 2012, 03:09:37 AM »
West Coast's first pick isn't for a while.  I'll just start.

GWS Selects

1. Whitfield
2. Toumpas
3. Grundy

Write-ups later.

Next up is tiga as Melbourne's recruiter with pick 4.

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Re: OER PHANTOM DRAFT 2012
« Reply #2 on: November 02, 2012, 09:23:21 AM »
The Melbourne Football Club selection #4

Oliver Wines, Bendigo Pioneers, 188cm, 90kg, 7/10/94


Oliver is a hard at it ready to go midfield ball magnet which we so desperately need.
His endurance is outstanding and has an excellent defensive side to his game also.
Plays like a cross between Dale Thomas and Mark Coughlan when at his peak.

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Re: OER PHANTOM DRAFT 2012
« Reply #3 on: November 02, 2012, 11:21:07 AM »
Bulldogs

Pick 5:
Troy Menzal
DOB: 22/9/1994
HT: 178cm WT: 77kgs


Younger brother of Geelong's Daniel.

He can play as a mid or forward. Has a great leap and is a good reader of the play. His SA Club coaches say he "hunts the footy". With the Doggies needing mid-field strength we believe Troy can fill that role for us. We have no concerns about his knee problems.

Pick 6

Kristian Jaksch
DOB: 7/10/1994
HT: 194cm WT: 85kg


A key position player who can play either end of the ground. Proving his versatility by playing on Joe Daniher in TAC final and kicking 7 goals in Vic Metro trial game. He is one of the best contested marks in the TAC Cup and beautiful kick

With the Doggies lacking KP at both ends of the ground we think Kristian can over time fill a huge void for us


Write ups to follow later today
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Re: OER PHANTOM DRAFT 2012
« Reply #4 on: November 02, 2012, 03:20:49 PM »
7. Port Adelaide - Sam Mayes (North Adelaide, 187cm, 78kg, 20/5/94)



Port will be happy to grab a home grown talent like Mayes. A midsized midfield/forward with good endurance, speed and is an excellent kick (right-footer). He is has a good leap and is a clean outstretched mark for his size as well as being a good reader of the play. This year he has already been a regular contributor for North Adelaide (who made the prelim) in the SANFL senior playing 15 games and kicking 12 goals. So he'll be ready to play AFL in his first year although possibly moreso as a half-forward and then learning off the more senior mids in the rotation. Once he fully develops at AFL level he'll be a midfielder who can push forward and kick some goals. So he's an ideal type for modern footy where bench numbers and rotations are being limited and players need to be versatile to remain on the ground longer. Comparison wise he has been compared to a Pendelbury (Mayes was state representative at basketball) or a Ryan Griffen as Mayes can run off and burst away from his direct opponent. Criticism wise he's not the weekly 20+ possie mid yet but that's because he's being playing SANFL seniors as a half-forward. He also had a quiet-ish U18 Champs this year for his reputation after making All-Australian in the 2011 U18 Champs. Still showed his footskills kicking a freak goal from the boundary at Kardinia Park against WA that would make Stevie Johnson proud.

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Re: OER PHANTOM DRAFT 2012
« Reply #5 on: November 02, 2012, 03:35:42 PM »

Update:

1. G.W.S. - Lachie Whitfield
2. G.W.S. - Jimmy Toumpas
3. G.W.S. - Brodie Grundy
4. Melbourne - Oliver Wines
5. W.Bulldogs - Troy Menzel
6. W.Bulldogs - Kristian Jaksch
7. Port Adelaide - Sam Mayes

Next up:
8. Brisbane   [tiga]
9. Richmond [Tiger-From-Tas]

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Re: OER PHANTOM DRAFT 2012
« Reply #6 on: November 02, 2012, 04:27:24 PM »
Brisbane Lions Selection #8

Jackson Macrae - Oakleigh Chargers, 189cm, 76kg, 3/8/94



We were delighted that Jackson surprisingly slipped to our first selection at Number 8.
He is an extremely talented and versatile medium midfielder who is also capable of playing in defence or attack.
He has all the skills and is a genuine goal kicking mid.

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Re: OER PHANTOM DRAFT 2012
« Reply #7 on: November 02, 2012, 04:46:14 PM »
 Pick #9 - Richmond Tigers (You won me over Craw) Jake Stringer

Age.......18
Height...191cm
Weight...91kg
Position...Utility

Jake Stringer is one of the most talented players in this draft and if it wasn’t for the broken leg he suffered last year he’d be the player everyone is talking about.

As it is Stringer will likely get drafted in the first 20 picks this year. Stringer has shown great resilience coming back from his serious injury and played some dominant games up forward of recent times. If you watched those games you’d be tempted to assume he is only a forward, which would be unfair to what we have seen of Stringer over time.

Stringer prior to injury showed he can play all over the ground and impact the contest much in the mold of a Luke Hodge. That trait is Stringer’s true value and I look forward to seeing it at AFL level.

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By Callum Twomey
Mon 22 Oct, 2012

Jake Stringer is expected to defy his broken leg to be taken early in the NAB AFL Draft

JAKE Stringer keeps the scans of his broken leg in a special spot in his bedroom cupboard. He doesn't look at them much, but knows where to go if he needs a quick reminder of his last two years, where documentation of his progress and struggle is jammed inside 17 by 14 inch envelopes.

Stringer has so many x-rays, it takes a while to find what he calls the "most gruesome" one, taken shortly after the compound fracture of his left leg in the opening round of the TAC Cup in 2011.

Others tell the story of his path since then, some showing the bones stuck together with pins and a rod. There are more recent ones, too, since the metal was removed and the bone had healed itself.

For Donna Stringer, Jake's mum, it feels like a "distant memory". For Jake, however, getting almost daily questions and enquiries about the injury keeps it fresh. When Stringer had his medical evaluation at this month's NAB AFL Draft Combine, they all came at once.

"There wasn't too many people sitting down when I went up for my go, that's for sure," Stringer told AFL.com.au.

"I think just about every person got up to have a look and a touch and a feel. It was a bit weird, you've got 18 club doctors standing around you poking, feeling, asking questions, getting you to do movements. It's confronting."

Stringer understands why it's happening. Before the injury, which happened while playing for the Bendigo Pioneers, Stringer was considered a likely part of last year's Greater Western Sydney mini-draft. The break of his tibia and fibula ended any chance of that.

Now only a few weeks out from the NAB AFL Draft, clubs are still unsure what to make of him. On talent, Stringer is in the best handful of players available this year. He's strong and tough, can do a lot of brilliant things and play nearly every position on the ground.

But they are countering his potential with his risk, wondering whether to pick him with a top-end selection or hope he slides until a little bit later. "At the moment, he's a mystery," says Leon Harris, Vic Country talent manager.

It all started when Stringer got caught awkwardly in a tackle, and felt his leg collapse and crack as he went to kick the ball. The bones ripped through the front of his left shin, leaving his foot and ankle to wobble.

At first glance he wasn't sure what had happened. Then the pain hit.

"It literally felt like someone had a saw and was just hacking away at my leg," he says.

He clawed at the grass as medicos took him off the ground in agony, and didn't look at his leg during the next 90 minutes or so while he waited for an ambulance to arrive.

When he got back to his home in Bendigo after the surgery, the injury's impact started to make a little more sense. He found he needed help doing all the things he could normally do himself: get something to eat and drink, shower, go to the toilet. Stairs at the front door, and again inside, wasn't ideal, though his long-time girlfriend Abbey Gilmore was always on hand.

Stringer's rehabilitation was built on smaller goals, with bigger ones in mind. He had to learn to run again, then re-teach himself how to kick on his left foot.

He wanted to be back up and going by December for the AIS-AFL Academy's camp in Canberra and then to be fine to train with the Western Bulldogs for a week in January. After that, about 12 months following the original break, Stringer had pencilled in a return to footy for the academy against the Box Hill Hawks at the MCG late in March.

At times he pushed too hard. His competitiveness had to be managed.

"Before Christmas last year, when Jake shouldn't have been doing much running, there were cones set up and guys were doing sprint testing over 10 or 15 metres," says David Newett, the Pioneers coach. "And he just blew them all away. He was limping really badly and had hardly trained, but as soon as the competition arose, Jake just wanted to be involved."

It was a difficult balance. His dad, John, watched Jake make his own decisions in his rehabilitation and find it frustrating when things didn't quite work. John runs a dairy distribution company, where Jake helps deliver milk to clients.

Jake's designated truck sits in the driveway at home ready to go, although John has sheltered Jake from some of the more strenuous work during his recovery.

"You have to be pretty meticulous about it: making sure the muscles come back, making sure you're not overtraining, making sure you tick all the boxes," John says.

"At his age - he's not a professional sportsman at this stage - he had to take it on board himself. To make those decisions as a young boy is tough."

Stringer met each of his deadlines. After the week at the Bulldogs - who loved him, like Geelong had the year before - Stringer needed surgery at the start of this February to remove the rod and screws.

It meant two weeks off his feet. Another five weeks after that he played for the AIS, winning a bet with former Pioneers, and current Vic Country, coach Mark Ellis that he would play in that game (Stringer got a couple of brand new footballs from Ellis for playing. He risked mowing Ellis' lawn for the season if he didn't).

He returned from the Europe tour and in Bendigo's first game of the season booted nine goals. He played like he did pre-injury: too strong, too smart and too quick for opponents, and having the game on his terms.

"I wanted to make sure that everyone knew I was coming back and I meant business," he says.

"I wasn't coming back to fill up the numbers, I wanted to show it hadn't all gone away."

But the performance led to expectations, some he couldn't meet.

Stringer's leg continued to give him problems. Every time it got a knock it hurt, and he was apprehensive. For a natural sportsperson, nothing was simple. It hadn't been that way throughout his life.

"I think sometimes you're born with an ability, and it doesn't matter, you could be a music prodigy or whatever it is," John says. "For some people, it's just in you. It's in Jake."

Basketball was the first sport to come easily to Stringer. John remembers Jake, "a little ball of muscle", shooting at the 10ft hoop before he was two years old. He played his first A-Grade basketball game in Maryborough, near Bendigo, when he was six. He even played against John, and older brother Travis, in a basketball game once, filling in for another team. He shot nine three-pointers that day.

There were cricket games in the backyard with Travis and other brother Brad, while a young Jed Adcock used to live nearby and join in. Brad plays footy at Eaglehawk, Jake's local club, while Travis is an accountant living in Bermuda.

Football came later, where he could put his aggression and power to better use. There are still signs of basketball instincts in his footy, in his spring when he leaps for marks, and his quick decisions in tight spaces.

But after the early form, it took a while this year to see all of that again. It wasn't there at the NAB AFL Under-18 Championships, where Stringer battled for Vic Country. Some mismanagement didn't help his cause, either, despite best intentions.

"We backed off his running with about three weeks to go before the championships, and dropped off his workload so we could nurse him through," says Harris. "But in hindsight we didn't work him enough. He just needed more work. He was struggling."

After a quiet start to the championships, Stringer got a lift to Melbourne with Ellis ahead of the third-round meeting with Western Australia, in Perth. Ellis lives only five or six doors down from the Stringer family, at the other end of their hilly road, and has known him since he was 12. Ellis' advice carried weight. He broke his leg twice during his own career.

On the drive, he suggested Stringer try wearing a shin guard to protect the bone.

"I thought he was joking," Stringer says. "I thought there was no way known I was going to wear one, I'm not a ruckman."

But after another poor showing against Western Australia, where he got hit on the leg, Ellis urged Stringer to give it a go. A week or so later he visited the local SportsPower store, bought a shin guard and tucked it under his sock against the Sandringham Dragons in the TAC Cup. He had 25 disposals.

"I felt like I had everything back again," he says. "Just having this little guard there covered it, so if it got hit it didn't hurt, I could keep going. I wasn't worrying about it and that was when I started to play better."

He played three more games for the Pioneers after that, and then three for Bendigo Gold in the VFL. Despite the occasional limp during games, Stringer impressed.

He gathered 25 touches against Box Hill, showing he could mix it with the bigger types (he is 191cm and 94kg). It also showed that playing as a strong and dynamic midfielder - where most think he'll end up - wasn't beyond him.

The limp has caused some consternation for clubs, although he didn't think he was the smoothest runner before the injury.

"They've been getting into me about my gait, but when you haven't been running too flash for 17 years and then you break your leg and you come back and they expect you to run perfectly ... I don't know," he says.

Stringer doesn't feel like he's achieved anything by getting back from the injury and being a likely first-round pick. Most around him have seen him change through the process, though. His dad thinks he's become more resilient, Newett recognises a level of empathy that's come out more, and although Harris still sees the strut and cheeky smile in Stringer, he knows there has been times he has questioned himself. Not anymore.

"It's an interesting one because so many people now are doubting me because of my leg," Stringer says.

"But for me I know come round one next year I'll be ready. And there'll be nothing that will stop me from doing that. My leg's fine, everything's fine. If I don't play round one, I'd be pretty disappointed."

Stringer knows the last two years will stay with him - the scar on his shin is still clear - but he doesn't want it to define him.

"I've tried to look at as a big story. And this injury was just a part of the story, not the whole thing," Stringer says.

http://www.afl.com.au/tabid/208/default.aspx?newsid=150045
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Re: OER PHANTOM DRAFT 2012
« Reply #8 on: November 02, 2012, 05:13:55 PM »
i reckon i could live with stringer. :cheers
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Re: OER PHANTOM DRAFT 2012
« Reply #9 on: November 02, 2012, 06:39:35 PM »
Update:

1. G.W.S. - Lachie Whitfield
2. G.W.S. - Jimmy Toumpas
3. G.W.S. - Brodie Grundy
4. Melbourne - Oliver Wines
5. W.Bulldogs - Troy Menzel
6. W.Bulldogs - Kristian Jaksch
7. Port Adelaide - Sam Mayes
8. Brisbane - Jackson Macrae
9. Richmond - Jake Stringer
10. Essendon - Joe Daniher (Father/Son)

Next up:
11. Carlton - Mr Magic
12. GWS - Danog
13. Gold Coast - one-eyed
14. GWS - Danog

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« Reply #10 on: November 02, 2012, 08:44:48 PM »
am I allowed to take Tippett? If not, Nick VLASTUIN @ 11.
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« Reply #11 on: November 02, 2012, 10:21:10 PM »
GWS

Pick 12 - Lachie Plowman (KPD)

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« Reply #12 on: November 03, 2012, 05:56:59 AM »
am I allowed to take Tippett? If not, Nick VLASTUIN @ 11.
Always Carlton, always cheating  ;D

Nah seriously go for it Magic if you want to. We weren't taking salary cap contraints into this (ie. his $800k p.a. salary) and it's likely Tippett will go into the draft pool.

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« Reply #13 on: November 03, 2012, 06:05:26 AM »
It's your turn, OE ;)

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« Reply #14 on: November 03, 2012, 06:26:33 AM »
13. Gold Coast -  Jonothan O’Rourke (Calder Cannons, Height: 183cm, Weight: 75kg, DOB: 21/04/1994)



Surprised a little he was still available. O'Rourke is an inside midfielder (he can play outside as well) with a turn of speed which allows his to burst out of traffic, top footskills (76% efficiency U18 Champs & 73% in the TAC Cup) and a good footy brain with overall awareness which enables him to make good decisions in congested situations and hit targets more often than not. More your natural footballer type who works hard with and without the footy - the type back in favour with AFL club recruiters. In 2011 he missed most the season with a hamstring injury but he came back this year to show he's worth taking with a high draft pick. He averaged 18 disposals in the U18 Champs for Vic Metro.

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ps. He's a Tiger supporter out of interest,