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Re: Coach of 2017
« Reply #30 on: April 26, 2015, 06:28:44 PM »
Would there be any love for Matty Knights at all?

Other than his 3 goals in the 1995 2nd semi. No.

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Re: Coach of 2017
« Reply #31 on: April 26, 2015, 08:58:21 PM »
Would there be any love for Matty Knights at all?
yeah, id give him a shot
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Re: Coach of 2016
« Reply #32 on: April 26, 2015, 09:00:52 PM »
you cant bring in an untried coach. he'll get eaten alive by the cultural failure that is the rfc. only a ross lyon can turn this around. a dictator type coach. that's it.

You mean like Terry Wallet?

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Re: Coach of 2017
« Reply #33 on: April 26, 2015, 09:02:02 PM »
we need a coach who will instil pride,never say die attitude,and leadership.......No idea who can do this to RFC

Ross Lyon did it at teh Saints who were traditionally an even worse basket case than us

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Re: Coach of 2017
« Reply #34 on: April 26, 2015, 09:04:53 PM »
Brett Kirk.

Captain of a premiership side.

Assistant coach to Ross Lyon so he knows what the message is that the players have been getting as well as the structures that Lyon uses.

Dark horse candidate. We need that bloods culture and he lived and breathed it. But Voss was personified the glory days of the Lions but he couldnt coach.

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Re: Coach of 2017
« Reply #35 on: April 26, 2015, 09:05:07 PM »
Has to be someone who teaches defensiveness and accountability.
Areas we seriously lack in and teams who posses those traits always seem to beat us with.

After that we can expand but if we aren't accountable first and foremost games like the Dees one on Friday night will eventually creep in due to laziness and we'll be right back where we started.

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Re: Coach of 2017
« Reply #36 on: April 26, 2015, 09:08:37 PM »
Would there be any love for Matty Knights at all?

Yes Knights can coach. But can he deal with the Richmond politics? Campbell knifed him

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Re: Coach of 2017
« Reply #37 on: April 26, 2015, 09:10:06 PM »
Brett Kirk.

Captain of a premiership side.

Assistant coach to Ross Lyon so he knows what the message is that the players have been getting as well as the structures that Lyon uses.

Dark horse candidate. We need that bloods culture and he lived and breathed it. But Voss was personified the glory days of the Lions but he couldnt coach.

Voss coached a basket case club Doc.
Kirk is a little left of centre. Need someone who'll be merciless on the playing list.
Make Roos like us. Show him the money just like Melbourne did and he slowly changed his tune.
Do something un Richmond like. What are they using our $FTF for.  Footy derpartment or footy department stationery ie Hartley's black plastic binders or FJ's flouro yellow and orange highlighters.

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Re: Coach of 2017
« Reply #38 on: April 26, 2015, 09:12:16 PM »
Doesn't matter just wheel any old bum in


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Re: Coach of 2017
« Reply #39 on: April 26, 2015, 09:25:17 PM »
Voss can coach, it was just he jumped in without any experience and had to learn on the job.
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Re: Coach of 2017
« Reply #40 on: April 26, 2015, 09:57:06 PM »
I reckon Chris Scott would be a great fit.
Coached a flag
Been part of a successful club culture
Knows what it takes

Geelong have a track record of letting people go when they decide it's time.
They look like a rebuild list and Chris Scott is a perfect coach to finish off a mid tier side.

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Re: Coach of 2017
« Reply #41 on: April 26, 2015, 10:46:53 PM »
I reckon Chris Scott would be a great fit.
Coached a flag
Been part of a successful club culture
Knows what it takes

Geelong have a track record of letting people go when they decide it's time.
They look like a rebuild list and Chris Scott is a perfect coach to finish off a mid tier side.

The thing that worries me about Chris Scott is that he inherited a gun side who had finished 1st, 2nd, 1st and 3rd so they were ready made when they won the flag in his first year, so when the chips are down with the list as it seems to be now and it requires attention what is his philosophy in getting the side into the contention category again?

It seems to me he or the GFC have hung on to a few players from the flags for a season or so too long. Their real last chance was 2013 and once Hawthorn got the cat off its back in the Prelim the clubs results have steadily declined. Hoping to pinch another flag before the on set of obvious retirements and changing of the guard? Hasn't that been the issue with Dimma? Remaining competitive in the hope we win a final while blokes like Newman play on and others like Grigg, Houli, Pettard, Chaplin etc despite their deficiencies play week in week out?

Thats not to say I have no respect for the flag he coached in 2011 but I just do not think he is the right man for the job to coach us. If we took a coach with previous experience and even though he never won a flag I thought his former assistant from the 2011 flag in Brenton Sanderson would be someone who could get us competitive and challenging very quickly.

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Re: Coach of 2017
« Reply #42 on: April 26, 2015, 10:50:58 PM »
The Scott Brothers are both massively overrated and if you think Hardwick mollycoddles the players too much then you definitely won't want Sanderson.
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Re: Coach of 2017
« Reply #43 on: April 26, 2015, 10:59:58 PM »
I actually want Roos Diocletian?
TBH for me its Roos or bust but just like many times in the past, the season we need a coach and the availability of the best possible candidate has not aligned for the RFC.
Freo look top 4 this year at worst and if Ross wins the flag he'll have the key to WA much like Malthouse did in 90's with West Coast.
If we remain stable afraid to make a call to appear mature yet wrongly conservative till Dimma's contract runs out then Roos will be available due to the agreement Roos has with Goodwin.
As I have said open cheque book, make him want to come and get him to the club.
We have to be un Richmond like in doing so otherwise we'll get someone of the ilk of Jade Rawlings to tell us what we want to hear who will then leave acrimoniously with no reputation at all.

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Re: Coach of 2017
« Reply #44 on: April 27, 2015, 05:42:11 AM »
Don, I get your point but remember he has taken over an ageing list which has lost the nucleus of their key players from the 2007-2009 era.
Reckon he's done well to keep them going.
“I find it nearly impossible to make those judgments, but he is certainly up there with the really important ones, he is certainly up there with the Francis Bourkes and the Royce Harts and the Kevin Bartlett and the Kevin Sheedys, there is no doubt about that,” Balme said.