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Re: Dustin Martin's contract talk thread / Dusty a Tiger for next 7 years [update]
« Reply #930 on: September 01, 2017, 02:45:45 AM »
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Re: Dustin Martin's contract talk thread / Dusty a Tiger for next 7 years [update]
« Reply #931 on: September 01, 2017, 04:25:38 AM »
Dustin Martin signs biggest contract of his career, and all thanks to Ralph Carr

SAM EDMUND,
Herald Sun
August 31, 2017



HOW’S your sense of deja vu, Collingwood fans?

Five years after an out of contract Travis Cloke took Collingwood on a year-long will he-or-won’t he rollercoaster, Dustin Martin strapped Richmond onto the same ride.

In both instances it was the biggest payday in the player’s career, yet in both instances the rival offers were bigger and better.

In both instances club legends begged for the restricted free agent to re-sign.

And in both cases there was a bloke named Ralph Carr.

Contract stand-offs for Carr are par for the course. This is not a crack at Carr; it’s closer to the opposite.

As one Carr client said this week: “You want him on your team cause s--- gets done. That’s the best thing about him.

“Out of anyone I’ve ever seen, he is the best at talking people around. It’s the art of Ralph. He is the best convincer out there when it comes to changing minds, changing attitudes and changing perceptions.”

Richmond’s offer for Martin earlier this year sat at $825,000 a year for four years.

By late August it was seven years at $1.1 million a year and the biggest offer in Tigers history.

The influential onballer is on around $635,000 this season.

The Pies in early 2012 offered Cloke a four-year deal at $700,000.

By September that year he was signing a five-year contract worth around $800,000 a season, with the last year incentive-based and ultimately not fulfilled.

A passionate Carlton supporter and former board member, Carr launched RCM Sport in 2012 as an offshoot to Ralph Carr Management.

“It’s dealing with clients I see as brands”, he said.

The man who managed — and married — Chains singer Tina Arena, has had the Richmond and Collingwood board in chains as they desperately try to keep their marquee men.

The manager to the stars — literally — deals with singers more often than footballers.

In 2017 Carr’s AFL stable contains Martin and young teammate Shai Bolton and GWS’ Nick Haynes.

Where the AFL’s more prominent managers may need to keep the waters calm for other clients, Carr has no such concerns.

Where other managers who push hard for the best deal for one player may affect a teammate of similar ability also in their stable, Carr doesn’t need to worry.

Put simply, he doesn’t need to make friends. Just get the best deal.

We’ve been here before with Martin and Richmond contracts anyway. Who can forget the hard hats and the GWS facility tour in 2013?

Former player manager Ricky Nixon, who handled Martin’s previous Tigers contract, was one of many at the time to question Carr’s handling of the situation.

“How could you take your client to Sydney for a meeting without a written offer on the table?” Nixon said.

But Carr doesn’t do uniform.

If football is volatile, entertainment is like fire walking. In an industry where stars and their managers can be a case of early ripe, early rotten, Carr has been a 25-year constant.

We’re not sure when Nick Haynes is out of contract. But when he is, God help the Giants.

http://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/afl/expert-opinion/dustin-martin-set-to-sign-biggest-contract-of-his-career-and-all-thanks-to-ralph-carr/news-story/e444a7e52ef30160de98deed231c4599

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Re: Dustin Martin's contract talk thread / Dusty a Tiger for next 7 years [update]
« Reply #932 on: September 01, 2017, 04:30:55 AM »
“We are absolutely delighted that Dustin has committed to a long-term deal with the Club,” Richmond general manager – football talent Dan Richardson said.

“As we have said consistently, in the modern football landscape players and their management are entitled to explore their options. Our fans will be thrilled that after undertaking that process, Dustin has decided he wants to be at Richmond Football Club and a part of our future.

“Despite the constant media speculation, negotiations have always been conducted with transparency and in good faith.

“Dustin has played some outstanding football this season. His focus has always been on the team and that will again be the case as we head into the finals’ series.”

http://www.richmondfc.com.au/news/2017-08-31/martin-a-tiger-for-life

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Re: Dustin Martin's contract talk thread / Dusty a Tiger for next 7 years [update]
« Reply #933 on: September 01, 2017, 05:12:11 AM »



Now put him up for trade for two top five draft picks.


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Re: Dustin Martin's contract talk thread / Dusty a Tiger for next 7 years [update]
« Reply #934 on: September 01, 2017, 05:48:42 AM »
Haha

The club has played this well and so has Carr, but fmd what a tiprat he is. We this we that.

stuffin McGuire asking about chopsticks again.  :banghead

Be nice if that bloke dissapeared again.
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Re: Dustin Martin's contract talk thread / Dusty a Tiger for next 7 years [update]
« Reply #935 on: September 01, 2017, 10:30:16 AM »
Just wondering why Caro is trying to do a hatchet job on Shane Martin.
The North Melbourne view was that Martin's exiled bikie father Shane had been keen for him to cross to the Kangaroos. But a conversation between father and son on Wednesday is understood to have seen Martin communicate that he planned to remain at Richmond.

It was obvious from the interviews that Shane really valued Richmond (particularly Trent Cotchin) and the stability they gave Dusty.
In the other interview while playing pool it was obvious that Ralph was really peeved about the foregone $2 mill.

Shane valued stability, mateship and comfort above all.
Ralph only cared about the money. He was pushing for the North deal (last week) until Shane got involved this week.

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Re: Dustin Martin's contract talk thread / Dusty a Tiger for next 7 years [update]
« Reply #936 on: September 01, 2017, 10:37:01 AM »
Caro is saying that it was North Melbourne's view that Shane was keen for Dusty to go to the Roos.

You can read that a lot of ways, but really, she has said it was North's view, not anyone else's. Wouldn't be the first time that a footy club got it completely wrong.

I got the impression that Shane Martin just wanted his son to have all the facts and info before making a decision. Which is totally understandable. North could have easily construed this to mean that Shane wanted him to go to North.

Now a moot point, thank goodness.

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Re: Dustin Martin's contract talk thread [merged]
« Reply #937 on: September 01, 2017, 10:40:13 AM »
Hopefully we still have enough wiggle room left to be active in trades.

Nope.
Add Dusty's $1.2m to Prestia's $650k and Caddy's $450k and there's not a lot left.
I am glad we have no cap room to make stupid offers to the free agents mentioned here like, Tippett, Casboult and Crameri.
The List Manager  ::) will now have to look hard at the underused young keys at other clubs (and probably keep Griffith).

Players like Himmelberg who is number four in line after Cameron, Patton and Lobbe.
Stewart from last year is a perfect example, taken with a pick in the 70's.


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Re: Dustin Martin's contract talk thread / Dusty a Tiger for next 7 years [update]
« Reply #938 on: September 01, 2017, 10:54:11 AM »
Well I think you do have to factor in the CBA 20% payment increase that occurred mid year. It means that the contract, and lets be conservative and assume he's getting paid the utmost reported (1.3 - 1.1 being reported as varying amounts) is on net values less than your Franklins/Abbletts.

Prestia is on more than 650 apparently, Caddy on more than 450.

I think if they're clever and know how to move the sums around we should have the room to go for players that can play important roles for us in future trade periods, but I'd say we won't be reeling in a "big fish" for another 10 years or so.

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Re: Dustin Martin's contract talk thread / Dusty a Tiger for next 7 years [update]
« Reply #939 on: September 01, 2017, 11:01:48 AM »
We have the cattle bar a key forward so go to the draft for the next few years

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Re: Dustin Martin's contract talk thread / Dusty a Tiger for next 7 years [update]
« Reply #940 on: September 01, 2017, 11:44:36 AM »
Well I think you do have to factor in the CBA 20% payment increase that occurred mid year. It means that the contract, and lets be conservative and assume he's getting paid the utmost reported (1.3 - 1.1 being reported as varying amounts) is on net values less than your Franklins/Abbletts.

Prestia is on more than 650 apparently, Caddy on more than 450.

I think if they're clever and know how to move the sums around we should have the room to go for players that can play important roles for us in future trade periods, but I'd say we won't be reeling in a "big fish" for another 10 years or so.

So once again Theyve misjudged the list
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Re: Dustin Martin's contract talk thread / Dusty a Tiger for next 7 years [update]
« Reply #941 on: September 01, 2017, 11:55:04 AM »
Misjudged the list ......you've seen the ladder right ??
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Re: Dustin Martin's contract talk thread / Dusty a Tiger for next 7 years [update]
« Reply #942 on: September 01, 2017, 12:05:23 PM »
Im just relieved.

A week ago I was convinced he was gone .

I've never watched a brownlow night and seen a Richmond recipient......to have him stolen would tarnish a wonderful experience.   

Dusty is a superstar.
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Re: Dustin Martin's contract talk thread / Dusty a Tiger for next 7 years [update]
« Reply #943 on: September 01, 2017, 12:35:21 PM »
Haha

stuffin McGuire asking about chopsticks again.  :banghead

Be nice if that bloke dissapeared again.

Maybe Dusty should have countered by asking McGuire about his King Kong comments again?
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Re: Dustin Martin's contract talk thread / Dusty a Tiger for next 7 years [update]
« Reply #944 on: September 01, 2017, 12:35:52 PM »
Misjudged the list ......you've seen the ladder right ??

What about in 2018-2022

I'm also relieved about Dusty
Caracella and Balmey.