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Re: Umpiring 2014
« Reply #510 on: April 12, 2014, 10:31:14 AM »
Yep it's a campaign against us from League Headquarters since 1980.
They have been against us since Raines got 0 votes in the Brownlow in 1980.
Has coincided with our decline.
Our teams are great but the umpiring standards are deplorable and hence our lowly position. :whistle


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Re: Umpiring 2014
« Reply #511 on: April 12, 2014, 10:32:30 AM »
Hard wick should've lost iit about Maccafer's scragging last night. Soft %#*!
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Re: Umpiring 2014
« Reply #512 on: April 12, 2014, 10:35:01 AM »
Hard wick should've lost iit about Maccafer's scragging last night. Soft %#*!

I agree other coaches stick up for their blokes when they get scragged and such. Ie Cloke this week.
Dimma sticks up for Ty, structures, contested ball stats and his balls.
Vanilla coach.

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Re: Umpiring 2014
« Reply #513 on: April 12, 2014, 11:00:21 AM »
Why doesn't he use a tagger

Ablett
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McRae
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Re: Umpiring 2014
« Reply #514 on: April 12, 2014, 11:01:16 AM »
Yep it's a campaign against us from League Headquarters since 1980.
They have been against us since Raines got 0 votes in the Brownlow in 1980.
Has coincided with our decline.
Our teams are great but the umpiring standards are deplorable and hence our lowly position. :whistle
Agreed well said.  :lol :lol

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Re: Umpiring 2014
« Reply #515 on: April 12, 2014, 11:01:55 AM »
Why doesn't he use a tagger

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He does. It just seems like it because even our taggers are poo.

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Re: Umpiring 2014
« Reply #516 on: April 12, 2014, 11:48:01 AM »
I don't think the umps had any influence on the result, even though there was some poor decisions.....we could of had another dozen free kicks but it still wouldn't have changed the result.  Missing set shots from 30 metres, handling errors, fumbles, lack of skill, lack of composure, lack of intensity, lack of game plan, lack of structure had more to do with it

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Re: Umpiring 2014
« Reply #517 on: April 12, 2014, 11:52:36 AM »
Umpires are not to blame!

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Re: Umpiring 2014
« Reply #518 on: April 12, 2014, 11:53:37 AM »
Maybe not - but if rape is not. Free kick

Why don't we do the same to the opposition strongest player

What happens to cotchin

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Re: Umpiring 2014
« Reply #519 on: April 12, 2014, 12:12:38 PM »
Maybe not - but if rape is not. Free kick

Why don't we do the same to the opposition strongest player

What happens to cotchin

Mentally weak we don't retaliate. We simply play nice. We don't hunt we get hunted and once the trend of the game is set the pattern does not change unless the opposition change it.
Mentally weak and pea hearted bunch.
Has been hapenning for 30 odd years.
Haven't bashed anyone since the 70's just ask those who gleefully smashed Vin Waite, Nicholls and co at Carlton. Now we are just happy to cop it and move in. The less scrutiny on our deficiencies the better rather than try to improve on our image. Welcome to another cycle of skata.

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Re: Umpiring 2014
« Reply #520 on: April 12, 2014, 12:59:21 PM »
We breed administrator and manager types.

We need more Scotty Turners & Johnny Howats.

It's better to have a balance though or someone like Hodge or the Scott brothers or Matthews or Bomber.
Brutal on the field, leaders on and off the field.

The correct balance is what you need.

Or a culture that demands it. Nice guys become great players become strong uncompromising leaders that are brutal.

At Richmond the good guys just get softer become administrators/mangers and the hard nuts just get dumber (unless they leave ie.Schultz & Ottens) & forget even the basic fundamentals of footy.

The cycle of Skata.
The club that keeps giving.

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Re: Umpiring 2014
« Reply #521 on: April 12, 2014, 01:14:50 PM »
Yep noone gets in the face of the opposition. Noone. We don't grind anyone into dust we just leave a pathway for them to get back into the game.
Noone prepared to push the boundaries or encourage someone to do so.
Every team has a player you love to hate. Except us.
We have players that people laugh at. Vanilla types. Blokes who just simply cruise through the game in exactly the same way whether we are well up or down. Lamentably too many of these types and not enough blokes bucking the trend to show initiative and put the hand up to take responsibility.
We are the politically correct footy club. Non controversial and therefore non relevant.
Everyone gets a prize. The Jack Dyer Medal count will be postponed because all players deserve to win it. It's not about winning its about everyone wanting to play in the centre, FF, Wing etc and everyone plays the same amount of time. Its about participating and fostering happy kids playing footy.
Next week RFC will be playing Aus Kick because blokes like Ty don't want to play under the spotlight and the Aus Kick kids will be playing for us because we want to share the joy. Welcome to the Under 10's or more commonly known as the RFC.

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Re: Umpiring 2014
« Reply #522 on: April 12, 2014, 01:33:16 PM »
Johnny Howat  :clapping
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Re: Umpiring 2014
« Reply #523 on: April 12, 2014, 01:54:29 PM »
Loved that johnny Howat banner in the cheersquad lmao

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Umps coach says umps can only pay frees when there’s a clear hold (H-Sun)
« Reply #524 on: April 12, 2014, 02:07:18 PM »
Umps coach Hayden Kennedy says whistleblowers can only pay frees when there’s a clear hold
Herald-Sun
April 12, 2014 1:03PM


THE AFL’s senior umpiring coach says he didn’t like Brent Macaffer’s tagging tactics against Trent Cotchin.

But Hayden Kennedy says umpires are limited in what they can do about the so-called “bear trap” where a tagger wraps his arms around a player without actually grabbing his arms or jumper.

Asked on SEN radio if he liked what he saw at the MCG last night, when Macaffer restricted Cotchin to just 13 disposals, Kennedy said: “No, not particularly, and that’s purely from an umpiring perspective.

“Umpires are instructed as soon as they see a hold, that’s where the free occurs.

“There has to be a hold.”

All three umpires were instructed to watch players closely at stoppages, an issue that had been highlighted by the umpires department after Bulldog Mitch Wallis employed similar tactics against Cotchin a week ago.

“Speaking with the umpires they knew there were some hard tags going on ... not only were there hard tags around the ground, but also when players were moving forward that was also an issue,” Kennedy said.

“We’ll just keep on coaching and saying once there’s a hold, it has to be paid.”

Richmond coach Damien Hardwick said today he expected Cotchin to have a tough night after watching Macaffer restrict Geelong star Steve Johnson the previous round.

“We’ll go through the tape, we’ll learn a few things from that and start to employ some of the tactics ourselves,” he said, rejecting suggestions Cotchin’s teammates could have done more to help their skipper.

“They were doing it throughout the night, they were trying to help him. But there’s a point where you ask how much do they help, there’s three guys out there (umpires) that should be protecting the ball player.”

Asked earlier if Macaffer overstepped the line, Collingwood coach Nathan Buckley answered: “Yep. And Cotchin got five free kicks for it.”

http://www.news.com.au/sport/afl/umps-coach-hayden-kennedy-says-whistleblowers-can-only-pay-frees-when-theres-a-clear-hold/story-fndv8t7m-1226881756376