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Re: State of Umpiring [merged]
« Reply #810 on: August 21, 2016, 01:30:50 PM »
Sliding rule is a tough one to apply

Paddy McCartin unfortunately broke his collarbone sliding into Richmond's Nick Vlastuin who kept his feet as he approached the loose ball. McCartin received the free kick but Vlastuin was entitled to feel aggrieved at the decision. He had done the right thing by keeping his feet as the 94kg McCartin slid into him, but received a free kick against. Although tough to apply in the moment, it's a good rule that umpires need to be fierce on next season as Vlastuin was lucky not to be hurt.

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Difficult? That was as clear cut a decision as I've ever seen. A howler of a decision.

Yep it should have been a free to Vlastuin

I dont agree with the sliding in rule but it's now there and as such it should be applied, there is no grey here.

Disgraceful decision

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Re: State of Umpiring [merged]
« Reply #811 on: December 16, 2016, 06:49:10 PM »
New umpire on the AFL list this year. Can confirm he's a Richmond supporter (or fan...not sure)

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Re: State of Umpiring [merged]
« Reply #812 on: December 16, 2016, 07:19:42 PM »
Jake King... :clapping
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Re: State of Umpiring [merged]
« Reply #813 on: December 16, 2016, 08:10:24 PM »
Mick Molloy.

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Re: State of Umpiring [merged]
« Reply #814 on: December 17, 2016, 04:01:01 AM »
My post was genuine, stop taking the mickey  >:( >:(

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Re: State of Umpiring [merged]
« Reply #815 on: March 30, 2017, 11:59:26 PM »
Umpires: DeBoy, Schmitt, Kamolins


Enjoy umpiring in the bush leagues next week, fellas. You turned the "advantage" rule into a farce.

 
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Re: State of Umpiring [merged]
« Reply #816 on: March 31, 2017, 12:25:14 AM »
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Re: State of Umpiring [merged]
« Reply #817 on: March 31, 2017, 01:42:04 AM »
Swings & roundabouts - Collingwood might've got the rub of the green from the umpires for most of the match but to be fair they gave us a couple of handy square ups late when it really mattered - Astbury got away with murder against Moore....Cotchin's high tackle on Treloar.......
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Re: State of Umpiring [merged]
« Reply #818 on: March 31, 2017, 06:14:25 AM »
Not their finest evening  :rollin

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Re: State of Umpiring [merged]
« Reply #819 on: March 31, 2017, 06:45:24 AM »
To me the HTB and DTB interpretations by the umps changes every week. Obviously as a Tigers supporter I have a one eyed view but really it does seem that we have to make the perfect tackle to have any chance of getting a free whereas the opposition just seem to touch our guys and the ball spills and it's a free every time.

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Re: State of Umpiring [merged]
« Reply #820 on: March 31, 2017, 08:12:25 AM »
Umpires: DeBoy, Schmitt, Kamolins


Enjoy umpiring in the bush leagues next week, fellas. You turned the "advantage" rule into a farce.

Exactly. What a farce.
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Re: State of Umpiring [merged]
« Reply #821 on: March 31, 2017, 08:26:41 AM »
Umpiring offset their bad kicking for goal

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Re: State of Umpiring [merged]
« Reply #822 on: March 31, 2017, 08:31:02 AM »
Treloar should make the shift to rugby as well, he throws those passes like Mal Meninga, umps didn't seem to mind a bit.
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Re: State of Umpiring [merged]
« Reply #823 on: March 31, 2017, 09:26:22 AM »
To me the HTB and DTB interpretations by the umps changes every week. Obviously as a Tigers supporter I have a one eyed view but really it does seem that we have to make the perfect tackle to have any chance of getting a free whereas the opposition just seem to touch our guys and the ball spills and it's a free every time.

I thought they did OK last night. There were a couple that did my head in, but generally they got it right.

I think a lot of people don't actually understand how these rules are meant to work.

My understanding is;

First of all, you have to have had prior opportunity, this is the contentious part, but as a general rule if the player with the ball takes 3 steps, they will be deemed to have prior. If they duck their head, keep low and charge head first, attempt a fend off, take possession out of the ruck or while on the ground, or play on from a free kick or mark they have had prior opportunity.

The player with the ball, must still make a legitimate attempt to dispose of the ball correctly though. A one handed handpass will be illegal disposal every time, regardless.

Although they are not instructed to, umpires will give more leeway to a player attempting to kick the ball rather than handpass. A handpass must be a clear definitive handball, yet the ball has to only brush the boot to be a kick.

There are some strange inconstancies though. If the ball is knocked out in the tackle or the player attempts to kick it but misses, with no prior, it is play on, yet if the ball touches the ground while in possession and being tackled it is dropping the ball as it is regarded as bouncing the ball.

If the player drop kicks while tackled it is dropping the ball

Also, if a team mates takes the ball from the players possession while he is tackled it is illegal disposal.

Many people seem to want the rules interpreted in a way that would actively discourage players from taking possession in a contested situation, which goes against everything the game is about.

The worst decision last night was when cotchin layed a high tackle and got the free kick. It was pretty sweet an nearly made up for crucifying us with the advantage rule, where they were way to quick to call play on.
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Re: State of Umpiring [merged]
« Reply #824 on: March 31, 2017, 09:37:05 AM »
That little fat umpire had a absolute shocker  but he has been the worse in the league for years...