and yep zac clarke has not played an afl game because of his size.
Zac Clarke 203cm 88kg
Tyrone Vickery 200cm 91 kg
Not a massive difference
I'd say Clarke hasn't played because of a player called Aaron Sandilands. Also WAFL form means nothing, plenty of players dominate at a lower level and can't step up. Let's wait and see first.
another taken around that time norths goldstein has shown infinately more than vickery. hawthorns renouf his first two seasons are easily more productive. trengove at port. while i know its to early to be calling for his head and im not he needs time but to compare him to his peers id say in the main hes been outperformed to a similar stage of their careers.
Goldstein was taken in 2006, debuted in 2008 (before Vickery was even drafted) for only 3 games. His 3rd year was ok, but had his breakout year in his 4th season which was 2010.
I don't see Renouf as a long term ruckman, he is a shocking kick and only taking the place of Max Bailey if he can get injury free. They even went and drafted David Hale who will get games ahead of Renouf and Hale is not a great ruckman. Renouf's 2nd season was statistically pretty similar to Vickery's, except Renouf's stats were increased by the fact he was often the #1 ruckman as they had no one else fit to play there.
and your right vickery and browne should not have high expectations placed on them noone has said any different. the knock on tyrone is he should be showing something anything in his third yr.
HE HASN'T STARTED HIS 3RD YEAR YET!!!
You're potting a bloke for not showing anything in his third year when the first game of his 3rd year is 5 weeks away.
He played two half games in the NAB Cup as a forward when the ball went into our forward 50 about 4 times a game. Pull your head out of your ass.