Andrew Krakouer threads [merged]

[mjs]

"People only cop a whack if they ask for it."


That's a joke - right?

[mightytiges]

Now, I've hardly ever seen a bad photo of Andrew, but the one used in this one would have to be his worst, and makes him out to be a rough-looking character.  Interesting choice by Sportal    Were they trying to portray something?

http://www.sportal.com.au/football.asp?i=news&id=92728

Looks like they've blown up a smaller pic. Makes Krak look 10 years older.

As CUB said we don't know the whole facts so Krak is innocent until proven guilty by the courts. Assault can vary wildly from totally laying into someone to a shove. They say 4 people were involved so who knows who did what. From afar it doesn't sound good though with the guy in hospital. Interesting how the club handles this if Krak is found innocent. A guilty verdict would obviously finish his career. Anyway we'll find out next week  .

[one-eyed]

Krakouer charged with assault
December 25, 2006 12:00
AAP

RICHMOND AFL footballer Andrew Krakouer has been charged with assault after an incident in Western Australia.

The 23-year-old was charged on Sunday by police with assault causing grievous bodily harm, over an incident in Fremantle - Perth's port suburb - on Friday night.

Justin Martin, 24, sustained head injuries in the incident and was in Perth's Charles Gairdner Hospital hospital in a serious but stable condition.

Krakouer was believed to be in Perth to celebrate Christmas with family members. Police said they were also making inquiries in regard to a second man, not an AFL footballer, who is alleged to have been involved in the attack.

The Tigers said in a statement that Krakouer had been co-operating fully with police and would defend himself against the charge. He is due to face court in Fremantle on Thursday.

http://www.news.com.au/sundaytelegraph/story/0,22049,20971467-5001023,00.html

[one-eyed]

Tigers' Krakouer charged with GBH
abc.net.au
Sunday, December 24, 2006. 6:28pm (AEDT)

Police have also charged a 21-year-old man, believed to be Krakouer's brother, with grievous bodily harm over the incident.

The man sustained head injuries and is in a serious but stable condition in hospital.

The alleged assault took place in two locations with police describing it as a sustained, brutal attack.

"There are no city cameras at that location but we are calling on people who may have, perhaps, used mobile phones to record the incident, or any persons that were and have noticed the incident," Fremantle police Detective Sergeant Anthony Thompson said.

http://www.abc.net.au/news/newsitems/200612/s1818012.htm

[F0551L]

2nd story in on the ABC news over here tonight
not much else to add apart from mention the "victim" was interviewed after regaining consciousness
 vision showed Krak kicking plenty of goals, but it maybe a nervous few days for him over christmas

[Mr Magic]

Now, I've hardly ever seen a bad photo of Andrew, but the one used in this one would have to be his worst, and makes him out to be a rough-looking character.  Interesting choice by Sportal    Were they trying to portray something?

http://www.sportal.com.au/football.asp?i=news&id=92728

That photo is a disgrace. Image manipulation at it's finest. stuff you Spurthole!

[one-eyed]

From the West Australian:

A fight had apparently broken out about midnight on Friday at The Esplanade park on Marine Tce in Fremantle, Inspector George Putland, of police communications, said.

“The men were both known to each other,” Insp. Putland said.

"A heated argument occurred between the two, which escalated into a brawl.

“That went across the park and into a car park. Members of the public pulled the people apart.”

http://www.news.com.au/perthnow/story/0,21598,20971431-2761,00.html

[letsgetiton!]

well well well

1st of all merry xmas to you all.  i just got back xmas eve from O.S and had no idea what has been going on in oz and yesterday at a family xmas do i was told krak is in strife!

well what have got to say about my boy krak.
everyone knows krak is not a firey agressive person, is is often referred to most as soft as butter.  for andrew to allegedly beat this guy up, the tool obv deserved it. from what i gather , the 2 knew each other and its all part of a family tiff, but lets be honest, krak is a shy boy without a mean streak in him, and these bast ard journos putting those mug shots in the paper are pathetic.

what do we know thus far, well we know if krak was a collingwood player he would get off real lightly, but being a tiger and an aboriginal in perth , who teh f knows, one this i do know is the legal/court system in WA are full of red necks and love to shove it up the indiginous groups.  for example, jimy served 9 yrs of a 16 yr sentence for transporting amphetimines, well he was just the truck driver, the rich prick dealer who was paying jimmy only served iirc 1 year out of a 3 yr sentice!  so why does the top dog drug dealer get 1 yr, and the truck driver 9, well jimmy is black, the dealer was white...thats WA!

lets hope andy , just like tarrant and johnson from the skunks  gets off lightly and lets hope andy can bring some of this aggression on on the park and start intimidating teams like his dad used too.

andy, if its true you and ur bro were sticking up 4 your family and caved this guys head in good on you. if this is a personal and family issue it should noty even go to court, bloody hell, as i said for andy to crack it the way he did, the pr1ck must have deserved it!

anyway, i have to catch up on all the threads to see who the hell we picked up in the drafts.

i came bacl early fropm italy and the last thing i expected to read about was krak arrested for GBH

[Gordon Bennett]

I'm a little anxious about this, both for Krak, and the club.

For me, the best case scenario is that Krak acted in self-defence of either himself or his brother. The next best is that his brother is the one who landed the most damaging blows, and that Krak was only involved on the periphery. If not, then I hope it was a 50/50 sort of thing which the victim sort of initiated.

Whether the victim "deserved it" or not, if Krak was the primary party, and did not act in self-defense, then he will almost certainly serve time in jail, if a jury were to convict him (he may be "guilty", but still may not be found guilty by a jury). That would be very sad indeed. For many reasons, I hope the victim makes a good recovery.

I also don't support people taking the law into their own hands, if that is what has happened.

Therefore, I await the full evidence. It may take a long time.

[mightytiges]

The concern for the Club is this could drag out all year which will be a distraction as well as bad press. I'm guessing Thursday will be just be an initial hearing and if the judge believes there's enough evidence for a trail then they'll all be summonded to reappear in court next year sometime which could be 6 months or more from now given our backlogged court system.

I also don't support people taking the law into their own hands, if that is what has happened.

Agree GB. Nothing to do with Krak's situation but there's a difference between self-defence and vigilante justice. The courts don't look favourably on the latter.

[Jackstar]

Why cant people walk away from trouble, Oh Dear
If i was on $300,000 plus a year, I would walk away from anything, cop abuse on the chin etc etc etc

[Mr Magic]

The concern for the Club is this could drag out all year which will be a distraction as well as bad press. I'm guessing Thursday will be just be an initial hearing and if the judge believes there's enough evidence for a trail then they'll all be summonded to reappear in court next year sometime which could be 6 months or more from now given our backlogged court system.

Absolutely.

The club is flying at the moment and everything was positive before this incident, however this is a PR nightmare.

Krak's reported behaviour can unravel a lot of good work and the club must be privately furious with this.

Andrew Krakouer represents the Richmond Football club off the park as well as on.
Fighting & violence  is for fools and there is rarely a winner. He should have known better.

Very irresponsible by Andrew whatever the outcome.

[one-eyed]

Krakouer brothers face court on GBH charges
abc.net.au
Thursday, December 28, 2006. 2:15pm AEDT

AFL footballer Andrew Krakouer has appeared in a Perth court over an alleged assault last week.

The 23-year-old Richmond player, and his young brother Tyrone, are each charged with causing grievous bodily harm following an attack on another man in Fremantle just days before Christmas.

At the time police alleged the attack was sustained and brutal, leaving the victim in hospital with serious head injuries.

Andrew Krakouer's lawyer John Prior told the court his client was likely to plead not guilty to the charge. His brother is also expected to plead not guilty.

The case has been adjourned until next week.

Security had to be stepped up outside the court after more than a dozen angry members of the victim's family waited outside for the charged pair to leave.

The victim's grandmother told the waiting media the family was looking for payback.

Krakouer and his brother eventually left through a rear exit with a police escort.

Andrew Krakouer is the son of Jim Krakouer, who starred with his brother Phil in the North Melbourne team of the 1980s.

http://www.abc.net.au/sport/content/200612/s1818914.htm

[one-eyed]

AFL star to plead not guilty to assault
December 28, 2006 01:47pm
AAP

RICHMOND AFL star Andrew Krakouer is likely to plead not guilty to a charge of assault causing grievous bodily harm, his lawyer told a Perth court today.

Krakouer today appeared in Fremantle Magistrates Court with his brother Tyrone Krakouer, 21, also charged with assault causing grievous bodily harm.

Andrew Krakouer, 23, was charged over an incident in Fremantle, on Friday night.

Justin Robin Martin, 24, sustained head injuries in the incident and is in Perth's Charles Gairdner Hospital in a serious but stable condition.

Andrew Krakouer's lawyer John Prior told the court his client "was likely to enter a plea of not guilty".

His brother's lawyer indicated Tyrone Krakouer was also likely to plead not guilty.

Mr Prior asked for Andrew Krakouer's next court appearance to be on January 4 because of his footballing duties.

"My client Andrew Krakouer is a professional footballer who plays for Richmond and he's due to return to Melbourne now," Mr Prior told the court.

The two brothers will appear in Fremantle Magistrates Court for a committal mentioning on January 4.

Andrew Krakouer was granted bail with $10,000 surety and an order not to approach Mr Martin.

Outside the court more than 20 family and friends of Mr Martin had come "to see justice done".

Mr Martin's grandmother Theresa Walley said her grandson was still in intensive care in hospital.

Mr Martin's mother, Sheryl Martin, briefly arrived to join the crowd and broke down in tears to be comforted by relatives.

http://www.news.com.au/heraldsun/story/0,21985,20981740-5005961,00.html

[Moi]

This is not getting any better for Andrew
Lynch mobs outside court