Frees For and Against Tally for the Season

[tony_montana]

Spot on chuck, thats what you get when you change rules for the aesthetics of the game - you start stuffing with the very fabric of what made this game Great.

[The Machine]

If short had amazingly knocked it sideways and it went out, would that have been deliberate as well??
Pauline Hanson Please Explain Moment

The answer would be yes. Short was punished for his speed and desire to get to the ball before Green. Green pulls up and Short has no other choice but to do what he did and was at full pace. The rule is a disgrace because a defender has no other option. Short allows Green to get to the ball first he kicks a goal. Short gets to the ball first and Green gets a free kick and gets the goal. What the 

[Simonator]

What the league wants is for short to knock the ball back into play even if it means a 95% chance of being a goal. Stupid rule and will be looked at. How can a player be rewarded for pulling back and obviously appealing to the umpire for a free kick? What a stuff up

[WilliamPowell]

3 of the last 4 weeks we've had umpire number 11, Deboy

In each game he has paid "dubious" decision against us

The deliberate against Short -v- the dogs
The shepherd against Jack -v- Freo
And now last night's deliberate

While he has shown he is an average umpire

his case is not helped by the AFL's constant need to change rules and how they are umpired

league changes the rules and players get taught how to exploit the said rules as Green did last night... he pulled up so not to put an "pressure" on Short... disgraceful

[rogerd3]

3 of the last 4 weeks we've had umpire number 11, Deboy

In each game he has paid "dubious" decision against us

The deliberate against Short -v- the dogs
The shepherd against Jack -v- Freo
And now last night's deliberate

While he has shown he is an average umpire

his case is not helped by the AFL's constant need to change rules and how they are umpired

league changes the rules and players get taught how to exploit the said rules as Green did last night... he pulled up so not to put an "pressure" on Short... disgraceful

Someone needs to have a chat to this Deboy bloke.

I'm sure someone knows someone that can have a quiet chat to him.

[YellowandBlackBlood]

Did Hayden Kennedy seriously say it was the right call?

[Diocletian]

3 of the last 4 weeks we've had umpire number 11, Deboy

In each game he has paid "dubious" decision against us

The deliberate against Short -v- the dogs
The shepherd against Jack -v- Freo
And now last night's deliberate

While he has shown he is an average umpire

his case is not helped by the AFL's constant need to change rules and how they are umpired

league changes the rules and players get taught how to exploit the said rules as Green did last night... he pulled up so not to put an "pressure" on Short... disgraceful

Also the umpire who ran 60 metres to overrule a decision and award a free kick against v Footscray


The club is weak as urine if they haven't put in a formal complaint to the AFL about him behind the scenes...

[Yeahright]

Reckon this call is also what lead Astbury to over run the ball and leak an easy goal. It looked pathetic but he probably had NO clue what he could do in that situation. The AFL is to blame for what was two pathetic pieces of play

[big tone]

Reckon this call is also what lead Astbury to over run the ball and leak an easy goal. It looked pathetic but he probably had NO clue what he could do in that situation. The AFL is to blame for what was two pathetic pieces of play

I think you are being a little generous to Astbury. He just had an "Astbury" moment. Minimum of one a game guaranteed.

[one-eyed]

'There's still confusion': Cotchin questions call

afl.com.au
28 May 2017

RICHMOND skipper Trent Cotchin believes the hotly-debated deliberate rushed behind free kick paid against the Tigers has created even more confusion amongst players.

The ambiguous rule was thrust back into the spotlight when Richmond defender Jayden Short was penalised during Saturday night's clash against Essendon at the MCG.

With the Tigers two points ahead late in the first half, Short guided James Stewart's bouncing long bomb over the Bombers' goal line, only to be pinged for a deliberate rushed behind.

Replays showed Short was hard done by, with Essendon forward Josh Green - who slotted the resulting free kick - chasing him all the way into the goal square.

The decision handed the Bombers a narrow half-time lead before the Tigers regrouped to claim a 11.15 (81) to 10.6 (66) victory.

"I think what we're getting out of this is that there is still confusion," Cotchin said on 3AW on Sunday.

"If I was 'Shorty' I probably would have done the same thing and would have felt pretty hard done by, by the call.

"But they're the adjudicators of the game ... that's the hardest thing when you leave it up to interpretation I suppose.

"I don't think there's any worse position to be in running back towards the opposition goal and not knowing what sort of heat is behind you ... especially when Green pulls up.

"We're trying to encourage people to just play the footy and the one person who did that got pinged."

http://www.afl.com.au/news/2017-05-28/theres-still-confusion-cotchin-questions-call

[TigerLand]

Its just stupid that we are telling players to disguise taking the ball over the line or bring contact on themselves so you get physical pressure. How complicated do we want it.

Either let players rush behinds or keep it exactly the same as the boundary rule, which case in point would have still been deliberate but Short wouldn't have been confused in what to do, he never would have done that if it was the boundary line because the rule is clear.

Also think that the penalty is ridiculously unfair for something that has a large grey area. Ball it up. It still achieves what the rule makers want which is no rush behinds but the penalty of a goal is just ridiculous.

[Yeahright]

Reckon this call is also what lead Astbury to over run the ball and leak an easy goal. It looked pathetic but he probably had NO clue what he could do in that situation. The AFL is to blame for what was two pathetic pieces of play

I think you are being a little generous to Astbury. He just had an "Astbury" moment. Minimum of one a game guaranteed.

Perhaps. I think most players wouldn't have managed to stuff that up but Astbury's normal moments were probably compounded by the earlier call

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It did effect his headspace but the bottom line is, it shouldn't have.

[Slipper]

league changes the rules and players get taught how to exploit the said rules as Green did last night... he pulled up so not to put an "pressure" on Short... disgraceful

You are giving the Bombers too much credit, they are not that smart.

[one-eyed]

Rohan Connolly's view:

Might be in the minority here, but I didn't mind the free kick paid against Richmond's Jayden Short for that deliberate rushed behind on Saturday night. Fact is the umpires set the precedent when they penalised Sydney's Callum Mills similarly back in round two, though Short clearly was running at a faster clip. Yes, he would almost certainly have been nailed in the tackle by Josh Green had he not rushed a behind. That though, is OK, provided the umpires are prepared to afford players in such situations a little more largesse than usual. There's a great good here, namely, in an era of low scores, putting the onus on defenders as much as possible to keep the ball alive and not offer them yet another safety net.

http://www.theage.com.au/afl/afl-news/rohan-connollys-last-word-on-round-10-20170528-gwf1fq.html