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Football => Richmond Rant => Topic started by: mightytiges on March 06, 2010, 05:50:41 AM
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Has anyone heard who and where we'll be playing next week?
I know the Pies are playing in either Narandera or Perth (vs Freo if they lose)
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i have seen several people suggest v Essendon at morwell is a possibility
would be happy enough if that eventuated
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I wouldn't be at all surprised if we head interstate ;) ;) ;) ;D
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I'll wager Brisbane at GC. Four quality opponents in succession is good for us :thumbsup :gotigers
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I'll wager Brisbane at GC. Four quality opponents in succession is good for us :thumbsup :gotigers
Would be more than happy with that PB but I'm not sure if Carrara is usable at the moment and I think the Gabba is still tied up with cricket? And as long as it's Saturday night and not Friday night - I have to fly home from Hobart on Friday!! ;D
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I'll wager Brisbane at GC. Four quality opponents in succession is good for us :thumbsup :gotigers
Would be more than happy with that PB but I'm not sure if Carrara is usable at the moment and I think the Gabba is still tied up with cricket? And as long as it's Saturday night and not Friday night - I have to fly home from Hobart on Friday!! ;D
If Brisbane, maybe at Coorparoo?? which is a 5 minute stumble from my new joint
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Lions are playing Hawks at Southport so don't think we'll be playing in QLD next week.
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Lions are playing Hawks at Southport so don't think we'll be playing in QLD next week.
:'(
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I wouldn't be at all surprised if we head interstate ;) ;) ;) ;D
Eagles at Subi? :-\
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I heard Essendon at Morwell
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You're right wayne
Saturday March 13
Richmond v Essendon at Morwell, 3.30pm
http://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/nab-cup-grand-final-and-weekend-fixtures/story-e6frf9if-1225837747998
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hmm so which ground would that be?
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Would have been nice if that was at Princes Park.
Nevertheless three opponents who made the 8 last year and one who one the flag in 08 I would have to say is excellent preparation and learning for the cubs.
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hmm so which ground would that be?
I'm guessing the Morwell Recreation Reserve where the Morwell footy club plays.
Morwell are another country footy club known the Tigers btw :thumbsup.
http://www.sportingpulse.com/club_info.cgi?client=1-6208-81031-0-0
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beat Essendon!
:)
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we pumped them there last time we played them, that day rodan did his knee
tigermonk, i may come to this game and see u there!!!!!
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Well i'll be there.
Might take the camera, and write up a report as well.
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Well i'll be there.
Might take the camera, and write up a report as well.
Look fwd to it Wayne. Will be much appreciated. :thumbsup
Will you be able to upload it on youtube much like your previous video with the Guns N Roses song Welcome to the Jungle as a backdrop especially if there will be something worthwhile to upload? :thumbsup
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we pumped them there last time we played them, that day rodan did his knee
Rodan was on fire that day too.
We've been very lucky so far this preseason as far as injuries especially compared to other clubs with broken legs and dislocated shoulders :help. The main thing no matter what the result is everyone gets through these practice games injury-free.
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looking fwd to the performance next week. Will just about be a full dress rehearsal for round 1 so for mine the 'it's just a practice match' comments won't sit, win or lose next week I will take a lot out of where we're at bc Im sure both us and essendon will load up on as many rnd 1 probables as possible.
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Richmond to Morwell for NAB 4
richmondfc.com.au
Mon 08 March, 2010
Richmond will play its final pre season NAB Challenge match against Essendon in Morwell on Saturday March 13.
The Tigers will play the Bombers at 3.30pm at Morwell Football Ground.
Richmond has recorded one win and two losses in the pre season so far, in preparation for the opening game of the season against Carlton on Thursday March 25.
The NAB series has enabled the Club’s young players some valuable ground time against some of the league’s fancied teams including Hawthorn, Geelong and Collingwood.
Stay tuned to richmondfc.com.au for more details of this week’s match in Morwell, including ticketing information.
The match will again be covered live through the Club’s web site.
http://www.richmondfc.com.au/news/newsarticle/tabid/6301/newsid/90299/default.aspx
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I expect we will be 80% full strength this hitout, effectively a dummy run for R1 ...should be a good guide for rookie promotion and senior inclusions :shh
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Yep probably give our certainties for round 1 a couple of quarters for their own personal fine tuning and play the majority of blokes who will be on the selective cusp to see whether they are worthy of a round 1 place.
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Good to see the club cottoning on to the live coverage idea.
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Good to see the club cottoning on to the live coverage idea.
Agree
Certainly takes the pressure off me :rollin :rollin
Although at the moment I am not sure if I can make it
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i am going, :thumbsup
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Wish i could get to this one!
i think this will be a real good marker for how our season will go. I don't think we have to win, but if we are competetive i will be so very pleased.
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Essendon coach Matthew Knights told the Windy Hill crowd that the Bombers would field a strong side for their last scheduled practice game against Richmond in Morwell on Saturday.
"We took a really young side up to Blacktown on the weekend, and they did a good job against the Swans, and we're looking to field nearly our best side against Richmond," Knights said.
http://www.theage.com.au/afl/afl-news/hille-backs-hurleys-3game-ban-20100308-pss8.html
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Look fwd to it Wayne. Will be much appreciated. :thumbsup
Will you be able to upload it on youtube much like your previous video with the Guns N Roses song Welcome to the Jungle as a backdrop especially if there will be something worthwhile to upload? :thumbsup
I wasn't going to take a video camera, and anyway, Axl Rose had my other video pulled, he didn't like the use of his song in it!!
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Try redoing it with cover version, it may sneak past copyright software.
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Does anyone know how long it takes to drive to Morwell from the Eastern suburbs? 2 hours?
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Don't ask a local,they're usually blind and get there in an hour,
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lol
abt an hr or so from narre warren,
abt 1hr 30 mins from blackburn
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Look fwd to it Wayne. Will be much appreciated. :thumbsup
Will you be able to upload it on youtube much like your previous video with the Guns N Roses song Welcome to the Jungle as a backdrop especially if there will be something worthwhile to upload? :thumbsup
I wasn't going to take a video camera, and anyway, Axl Rose had my other video pulled, he didn't like the use of his song in it!!
Axl must be a Carlton supporter. No wonder the rest of the band left him. :rollin
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LOL Ox and Tucky ;D. Reckon Axl would be a Pies fan - a deluded bogan still living on 1990 lol.
lol
abt an hr or so from narre warren,
abt 1hr 30 mins from blackburn
Cheers TM :cheers.
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Give Gourdis a go up forward!!
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Does anyone know how long it takes to drive to Morwell from the Eastern suburbs? 2 hours?
Yeah from the eastern suburbs about an hour and a half.
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Does anyone know how long it takes to drive to Morwell from the Eastern suburbs? 2 hours?
Yeah from the eastern suburbs about an hour and a half.
That's if you make it through Moe, no incident!
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Does anyone know how long it takes to drive to Morwell from the Eastern suburbs? 2 hours?
Yeah from the eastern suburbs about an hour and a half.
That's if you make it through Moe, no incident!
lol, there is a Moe bypass, just stick to that. Make sure you have enough fuel, you don't want to stop there for any reason.
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LOL Ox and Tucky ;D. Reckon Axl would be a Pies fan - a deluded bogan still living on 1990 lol.
Maybe MT.
Axl gets "welcomed to the jungle" by Eddie and his cronies
only to then sing for "patience" at their lack of success.
Axl then marries his sister to call her "sweet Child of Mine"
while he happily lives in his utopia of "paradise city" only to be told
to "don't cry" every September after another futile September campain yields nothing.
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I'll wager Brisbane at GC. Four quality opponents in succession is good for us :thumbsup :gotigers
Would be more than happy with that PB but I'm not sure if Carrara is usable at the moment and I think the Gabba is still tied up with cricket? And as long as it's Saturday night and not Friday night - I have to fly home from Hobart on Friday!! ;D
[/quotAt Christmas time Cararra consisted of 4 light poles
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we pumped them there last time we played them, that day rodan did his knee
tigermonk, i may come to this game and see u there!!!!!
doubt if l be there mate as l most likely be in Melbourne.
Ground is all new & in perfect condition
90 minute trip for those coming
will warn drinkers, dont drink & drive cause you will be caught down here.
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Don't ask a local,they're usually blind and get there in an hour,
think you should turn up, l will go out of my way to be there
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Morwell football ground, Travers St, Morwell.
Turn off Princess Fwy at Morwell-Thorpdale Rd. Turn right into Hazelwood Rd and then right again into Travers St.
(http://oneeyed-richmond.com/images/other/morwell.jpg)
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RICHMOND v ESSENDON
Richmond
2. Will Thursfield, 3. Brett Deledio, 5. Troy Simmonds, 6. Graham Polak, 8. Jack Riewoldt, 9. Trent Cotchin, 10. Shane Edwards, 15. Mitch Farmer, 16. Luke McGuane, 17. Chris Newman, 19. Daniel Connors, 20. Mitch Morton, 23. Daniel Jackson, 26. Robin Nahas, 27. Tom Hislop, 29. Tyrone Vickery, 30. Richard Tambling, 31. Adam Thomson, 32. Ben Cousins, 33. David Gourdis, 34. Andrew Browne, 36. Dustin Martin, 40. Kel Moore, 44. Troy Taylor, 47. Ben Nason, 50. Relton Roberts
Essendon
1. Jay Neagle, 2. Ricky Dyson, 3. Scott Gumbleton, 4. Jobe Watson, 5. Brent Stanton, 6. Angus Monfries, 8. Jason Winderlich, 9. Brent Prismall, 11. David Zaharakis, 12. Andrew Welsh, 14. Sam Lonergan, 15. Courtenay Dempsey, 16. Tayte Pears, 17. Jake Melksham, 19. David Hille, 20. Henry Slattery, 23. David Myers, 26. Cale Hooker, 27. Jason Laycock, 29. Alwyn Davey, 30. Patrick Ryder, 31. Dustin Fletcher, 33. Mark Williams, 34. Kyle Hardingham, 37. Kyle Reimers, 39. Heath Hocking, 40. Ben Howlett, 43. Bachar Houli
http://www.afl.com.au/news/newsarticle/tabid/208/newsid/90394/default.aspx
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Both strong teams, should be a good game.
In light of the Cuz news, he'd probably miss.
Looks like Gus is ruck option #4 now.
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No Tuck, McMahon or King - going to be tough for those 3 from here.
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No Polo, Collins and Post. A little surprising.
White missing.
I like this team though.
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No Polo or Collins. A little surprising.
Have they played each game so far? They might be missing on a rotation basis maybe.
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Where's Astbury? grrrrrrrrr
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Injured ??
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2. Will Thursfield, 3. Brett Deledio, 5. Troy Simmonds, 6. Graham Polak, 8. Jack Riewoldt, 9. Trent Cotchin, 10. Shane Edwards, 15. Mitch Farmer, 16. Luke McGuane, 17. Chris Newman, 19. Daniel Connors, 20. Mitch Morton, 23. Daniel Jackson, 26. Robin Nahas, 27. Tom Hislop, 29. Tyrone Vickery, 30. Richard Tambling, 31. Adam Thomson, 32. Ben Cousins, 33. David Gourdis, 34. Andrew Browne, 36. Dustin Martin, 40. Kel Moore, 44. Troy Taylor, 47. Ben Nason, 50. Relton Roberts
Effectively our round 1 squad including emergencies.
Agree smokey. This confirms a line has already been put through Tucky and Jordie and they'll be playing at Coburg this year until they're delisted. Kingy is suspended for round 1 (unless he gets off) but yep he'll be gone as well.
Interesting to see what we do with our rucks and FF presuming all of Simmo, Vicks and Browne play. Polly is being given first crack at FF but if he struggles again on Saturday and Vickery does ok at FF when he is down there then Dimma could go with all three rucks for round 1 and rotate Simmo and Vicks at FF leaving Polly out. Browne was good last week. It'll be hard to leave him out if he dominates again in the ruck.
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Where's Astbury? grrrrrrrrr
Injured
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Big guns return for final hitout
Richmond will run out with a close to full strength lineup in this Saturday’s NAB Challenge match against Essendon in Morwell.
The Tigers will field a similar team to the one which defeated Geelong in Yea a fortnight ago.
The match against the Bombers will be the final chance for players to impress in the pre season before the opening round of the home and away season on Thursday March 25 against Carlton.
Live coverage of the match can be followed on richmondfc.com.au via a live blog from 3.15pm.
Ticketing information (general admission tickets are available at the gate)
Adults - $15
Concession - $10
Children - $5
Family - $30
AFL Members and competing Club members can present their 2010 membership at the gate for free admission, subject to capacity.
Richmond v Essendon
Saturday March 13, 3.30pm
Morwell Football Ground
2. Will Thursfield
3. Brett Deledio
5. Troy Simmonds
6. Graham Polak
8. Jack Riewoldt
9. Trent Cotchin
10. Shane Edwards
15. Mitch Farmer
16. Luke McGuane
17. Chris Newman
19. Daniel Connors
20. Mitch Morton
23. Daniel Jackson
26. Robin Nahas
27. Tom Hislop
29. Tyrone Vickery
30. Richard Tambling
31. Adam Thomson
32. Ben Cousins
33. David Gourdis
34. Andrew Browne
36. Dustin Martin
40. Kel Moore
44. Troy Taylor
47. Ben Nason
50. Relton Roberts
http://www.richmondfc.com.au/news/newsarticle/tabid/6301/newsid/90449/default.aspx
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Just realised Postie isn't in the squad ???. I still don't know why he isn't played up forward.
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Just realised Postie isn't in the squad ???. I still don't know why he isn't played up forward.
Because they see him as our CHB and
Because he played his last year int he TAC cup as CHB ;D
I actually like seeing him in the backline because he really needs to work on the defensive side of his game
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Postie played mainly at CHB in the TAC Cup but he also played forward. He's a tall that can play at both ends. I don't have a problem with him being played at CHB for us but if he's not in the squad then either he is being rested (hopefully that's the case) or it seems others are preferred in our key defensive posts. Given the last practice match usually is a trial run for the round 1 line-up then it seems it's a case of the latter :-\. As we have a hole in our forward line and need another tall to stand up (I don't see Polly as the answer) why not try Postie. Postie is part of our future long-term and needs the gametime for his development.
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Postie played mainly at CHB in the TAC Cup but he also played forward. He's a tall that can play at both ends. I don't have a problem with him being played at CHB for us but if he's not in the squad then either he is being rested (hopefully that's the case) or it seems others are preferred in our key defensive posts. Given the last practice match usually is a trial run for the round 1 line-up then it seems it's a case of the latter :-\. As we have a hole in our forward line and need another tall to stand up (I don't see Polly as the answer) why not try Postie. Postie is part of our future long-term and needs the gametime for his development.
agree with this. with astbury and griffiths both injured and yeah most are going to say they arent ready anyway, but i disagree. they are both capable of playing as a third tall option while they are not available i would be looking to structure up the forward line with with both post and riewoldt across hf and gourdis at ff.
for this game going by the selected squads i reckon fletcher will likely take polak, pears gourdis, and hooker riewoldt.
i reckon essendon will also get needed game time into both hille and laycock. they will go in with 3 ruckmen even though i consider ryder a kp. with ryder i think they are most likely to play him somewhere in the forward line.
their forward structure could go like this
gumbleton on mcguane, thursfield on neagle and moore on ryder. again terribly undersized but should have a massive advantage with rebound and run.
it leaves ruckmen on ruckmen in simmonds on hille. browne on laycock and if paddy goes into the ruck vickery .
would play dustin martin on watson let him go head to head if watson does not respect martin he will get burnt because of martins disposal.
because we will probably now be missing both cuz and foley i would bring newman into the midfiels along with cotchin. allowing us to put nahas roberts and morton next to the 3 tall forwards.
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Postie played mainly at CHB in the TAC Cup but he also played forward. He's a tall that can play at both ends. I don't have a problem with him being played at CHB for us but if he's not in the squad then either he is being rested (hopefully that's the case) or it seems others are preferred in our key defensive posts. Given the last practice match usually is a trial run for the round 1 line-up then it seems it's a case of the latter :-\. As we have a hole in our forward line and need another tall to stand up (I don't see Polly as the answer) why not try Postie. Postie is part of our future long-term and needs the gametime for his development.
agree with this. with astbury and griffiths both injured and yeah most are going to say they arent ready anyway, but i disagree. they are both capable of playing as a third tall option while they are not available i would be looking to structure up the forward line with with both post and riewoldt across hf and gourdis at ff.
for this game going by the selected squads i reckon fletcher will likely take polak, pears gourdis, and hooker riewoldt.
i reckon essendon will also get needed game time into both hille and laycock. they will go in with 3 ruckmen even though i consider ryder a kp. with ryder i think they are most likely to play him somewhere in the forward line.
their forward structure could go like this
gumbleton on mcguane, thursfield on neagle and moore on ryder. again terribly undersized but should have a massive advantage with rebound and run.
it leaves ruckmen on ruckmen in simmonds on hille. browne on laycock and if paddy goes into the ruck vickery .
would play dustin martin on watson let him go head to head if watson does not respect martin he will get burnt because of martins disposal.
because we will probably now be missing both cuz and foley i would bring newman into the midfiels along with cotchin. allowing us to put nahas roberts and morton next to the 3 tall forwards.
Don't mind that although I'd reckon we'll play Gourdis in defence as that's where he's been used during the preseason.
Goo then may get Gumby, McGuane on Ryder and Thursty on Neagle. Free up Moore as a rebounding defender. Forward line of Polly (vs Fletcher), Vickery (Hooker), Riewoldt (Pears) - Fletcher hasn't taken the best oppositon forward in yonks.
Simmo/Browne in the ruck against Hille/Laycock. Probably Vickery and Ryder will get a run too in the ruck being a practice match.
In the midfield we have the better class with Lids, Cotch, Martin but the bombers will have the experience and pbetter depth. Up to Jacko, Blingers, Newy (I'd have him in the midfield too claw), Thomo, Connors, Nason with Morton and Nahas pushing up the ground to share the workload. We'll probably bring in another mid into the squad with Cuz now out. Hopefully it's Contin. Test him in a game against an opposition's best 22-25.
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first thing - NO INJURIES!
second thing - beat these pri*ks! you don't lose to Essendon!
this is how i would field this team!
Thursfield, Moore, Farmer
Connors, McGuane, Newman
Tambling, Jackson, Martin
Deledio, Riewoldt, Morton
Nahas, Polak, Roberts
Simmonds, Thomson, Cotchin
Edwards, Hislop, Vickery, Gourdis, Browne, Taylor, Nason
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Well I reallly hope Edwards has a great game and proves me wrong because he is continually linked to the round one team and I think he will be smashed. But lets just hope eh!! If he gets selected... ;D
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So who from OER is heading down to Morwell tomorrow? :)
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i am thinking about getting across to se it as i have the weekend off
is thi sgame going to be broadcast over the net or radio?
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So who from OER is heading down to Morwell tomorrow? :)
I'll be there, only a 15 minute drive for me.
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is thi sgame going to be broadcast over the net or radio?
Live match coverage - richmond v essendon
From 3.15pm on Saturday March 13, richmondfc.com.au will provide live coverage of the NAB Challenge match between Richmond and Essendon in Morwell.
http://www.richmondfc.com.au/season2010/livematchcoverage/tabid/15875/default.aspx
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thanx oe
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So who from OER is heading down to Morwell tomorrow? :)
Well after looking very doubtful during the week - the Footy Gods have smiled on me and I am going
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So who from OER is heading down to Morwell tomorrow? :)
Well after looking very doubtful during the week - the Footy Gods have smiled on me and I am going
If only the footy gods smiled upon the the team you so passionately follow a bit more often! :)
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WP txted me to say Polo is playing. So he's in for Cuz.
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Good to hear. Hope he plays on the wing or as a forward, since he'll actually have some decent delivery this time.
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Squad playing from what WP can see .....
"Lids, Jacko, Thomo, Cotch, Tambo, Browne, Hislop, Polo, Farmer, Nason, Newy, Moore, Goo, Taylor, Connors, Edwards, Nahas, Jack, Ty, Luke. More later"
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Martin, Roberts and Morton playing as well.
No sign yet of Polak or Thursty.
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From RFC blog:
8,000 crowd. Fairly even.
Deledio and Cotchin will both start in the midfield for the Tigers.
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Tyrone Vickery and Jack Riewoldt are the two tall targets up forward at the moment.
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simmo in the ruck
First goal of the game to the Bombers - Zaharakis. Ess by 7 pts.
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The backline is Moore, Gourdis, Newman, McGuane, King, Tambling
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Hey, all they are doing is a informing of goals scored.
I know it would he hard to do, but the least the bloke on the collingwood site tried to keep people informed of what was happening on the ground.
The essendon football site will at least give you behinds being scored as well.
http://www.essendonfc.com.au/matches/live.asp?round_no=-2
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Both teams are feeling themselves out at the moment - it's been a quiet start to the game.
A poster from Morton is Richmond's first score -Bombers 7, Richmond 1. We're 12 mins into the first quarter
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Goal :gotigers
7-7
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The first goal from the Tigers! Mitch Morton marked on a tight angle and snapped his first. Scores level.
Hislop flattened Watson according to SEN (Watson got up)
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i think mitch is ready to unleash this year!!! having a great pre season
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The backline is Moore, Gourdis, Newman, McGuane, King, Tambling
I am worried Dimma is play King in the backline. :-\
mcgaune and thursty not playing?
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Essendon players trying to even up on Hislop.
A reply goal for teh Dons - they lead by 6.
7 - 13
It's been a very even contest so far - no real standout performers, and both teams having their share of inside 50s.
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Another Bomber goal
7 - 19
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Gourdis has the job on David Hille at the moment.
A nice strong mark by Tyrone Vickery after good delivery from Relton Roberts. Shot at goal coming up.
Point
8 - 19
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Shot at goal was touched on the way through. Tigers down by 12 points.
18 mins gone
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Goal Roberts :gotigers
14 - 19
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Scooby goal
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A brilliant goal from Relton Roberts! With the whole 50m area to work with, he picked up the loose ball and calmly slotted it! Dons by a goal.
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Ben Nason, Roberts, Dustin Martin and Dan Connors have had some valuable early touches.
Conditions are perfect for footy.
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A goal from Scott Gumbleton makes it a two-goal game again.
14 - 25
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A goal from Scott Gumbleton makes it a two-goal game again.
14 - 25
stuff
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The midfield battle has been fairly even so far. We're almost at quarter time.
Another Bomber goal
14 - 32
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rellllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllton!!!!!!!
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a point to each side
15 - 33
There's no wind advantage here - we have perfect conditions for footy.
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we are introuble
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Quarter time: Essendon 5.3.33, Richmond 2.3.15.
Goals for Richmond: Morton and Roberts.
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sack the coach :o
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According to the RFC blog - The Tigers are very much in this game - it was an even first term. The Bombers just looked to have more polish up forward.
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WP at the ground.
Bests? None lol. Lids, Simmo, Nason, Farmer.
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RFC blog - The better players for the quarter were Nason, Roberts, Vickery, Roberts and Gourdis.
SEN best - Roberts
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Point to us
16 - 33
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RFC blog - The better players for the quarter were Nason, Roberts, Vickery, Roberts and Gourdis.
Roberts obviously twice as good ;D
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A free kick and goal to Ben Nason in the opening seconds of the second quarter. Margin 11 points.
22 - 33
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looks like Relton will or at least should be elevated.
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allways rely on oer - keep up the good work and go tiggies
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looks like another couple of hours refreshing OER screens again today ;D
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Bugger! Goal Bombers
22 - 39
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A goal from Essendon's Brent Stanton, followed by another quick one from Jason Winderlich. The Bombers have skipped out to a 23-point lead.
22 - 45 :-\
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Looks like we will be playing the goal for goal game again.
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A goal from Essendon's Brent Stanton, followed by another quick one from Jason Winderlich. The Bombers have skipped out to a 23-point lead.
22 - 45 :-\
Never mind, never mind..... ;D
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Goal to us. Roberts again :gotigers
28 - 45
Another special effort from Relton Roberts! A classy pick-up from the midfield, sprint inside 50m and bouncing goal. He's got two now.
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e cant play king in defence
big mistake
riewoldt seems quiet , he needs to walk the walk , seems top talk the talk but time is now 4 him
relton needs to be elevated
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Goal to us. Roberts again :gotigers
28 - 45
Another special effort from Relton Roberts! A classy pick-up from the midfield, sprint inside 50m and bouncing goal. He's got two now.
Great to hear this kid really playing well, this is the type of kid we NEED!!! :thumbsup
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Goal to bombers :P
28 - 52
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Out to 5 goals down now
28 - 58
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Looks like we found a good one in Relton Roberts ;D Thats the whole point of these games, its not necessarily about the win or lose, for me, its about finding an extra player or two. Roberts coming along like this is a huge bonus imho.
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Goal to us. Roberts again :gotigers
28 - 45
Another special effort from Relton Roberts! A classy pick-up from the midfield, sprint inside 50m and bouncing goal. He's got two now.
Great to hear this kid really playing well, this is the type of kid we NEED!!! :thumbsup
25 year old kids?
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we are gonna get pumped
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Goal to us. Roberts again :gotigers
28 - 45
Another special effort from Relton Roberts! A classy pick-up from the midfield, sprint inside 50m and bouncing goal. He's got two now.
Great to hear this kid really playing well, this is the type of kid we NEED!!! :thumbsup
25 year old kids?
25 years old..... over the hill then??
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Bombers running away
28 - 64
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I thought Roberts was 23
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Roberts is 23.
I wonder if it's Essendon platying well or us gifting goals through turnovers as usual :-\.
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Bombers running away
28 - 64
Very disappointing score line at the moment. The squad we have is pretty strong, its disappointing every time the other mob get a run on no one in our team stands up and puts up the shutters. Havent been able to stop momentum for years- disappointing especially from the leadership group and the midfielders.
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Jobe Watson puts through another - Richmond trail 70 to 28. There hasn't been too much action for the Tiger forwards this quarter.
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Sounds like a repeat of the game last week against Collingwood. Not getting the ball forward of centre and getting pumped :scream
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Nahas break the drougth
34 - 70
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Jobe Watson puts through another - Richmond trail 70 to 28. There hasn't been too much action for the Tiger forwards this quarter.
Do we have many of our front line players out or are we just that bad??
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[Comment From Gary Gary: ]
Tiger boys who lined up with Coburg today were very impressive.
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Jobe Watson puts through another - Richmond trail 70 to 28. There hasn't been too much action for the Tiger forwards this quarter.
Do we have many of our front line players out or are we just that bad??
Nope and Yep
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Jobe Watson puts through another - Richmond trail 70 to 28. There hasn't been too much action for the Tiger forwards this quarter.
Do we have many of our front line players out or are we just that bad??
Sounds like the later.
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[Comment From Gary Gary: ]
Tiger boys who lined up with Coburg today were very impressive.
Who were they??
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Don't know. I guess everyone who's not playing now and not injured.
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Essendon kicked a goal just on the half time siren to make it a 42-point lead at half time.
Half-time
Essendon 5.3 12.4.76,
Richmond 2.3 5.4.34.
Goals for Richmond: Roberts 2, Morton, Nason, Nahas.
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The Tigers started the second well kicking a point followed quickly by a goal to Nason after Standon gave away a free kick 50m out from goal. But Stanton hit back after receiving a handball from a pack from Zaharakis to kick a nice opportunist goal on an angle 35m out. Winderlich took the lead out to 23 points after a Davey steal in the midfield got the Bombers going. A second goal to Roberts was overshadowed soon after by a huge pack mark to Hille 30m from goal. The kick was poor and sailed through for a point. Some nice work by impressive rookie Howlett saw the ball move into the forward line where Monfries swooped on a loose ball in the goal square for his second. A free kick to Hille in the middle saw the ball finish with the yellow-booted Reimers who driled through his first goal. The Bombers' 10th was a team effort with Neagle handballing to Davey who dodged three players to spot Hocking who kicked a banana goal. A huge mark to Monfries on the wing brought the crowd to life late in the second quarter. When Gumbelton marked again and spoted Watson - who marked and promptly was given a 50 m penalty - the lead balloned to 42 points. A late goal to Nahas would have frustrated Knights but the smile returned to his face when H.Slattery fired a great pass to a leading Zaharakis who kicked his second from 45m out. The siren sound 20 seconds later
http://www.essendonfc.com.au/matches/live.asp?round_no=-2
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seems like its gonna be the same old crap this yr
nothing will change
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1st quarter
down-field free kick against Martin saw the ball end up with Hille 40m from goal. His shot went wide for the first point of the game. A minute later Zaharakis marked 15m out and booted the first goal of the game. Both sides were scrappy for the next five minutes before a holding he ball decision against Reimers near goal gave Richmond a sniff but their shot hit the post. A Monfries kick into the Bombers' 50m saw Ryder leap, the ball came to ground and it was a race between Williams and Davey to crumb the goal with the Hawthorn recruit getting the spoils. Davey was busy soon again driving the ball into the forward 50 where Gumbleton handballed to Neagle who snapped a nice goal from 30m out. The Bombers' defence was standing tall with Hardingham again having some nice touches and Pears and Hooker working well before Vickery marked 50m out but kicked a point. A poor kick by Prismall across the Bombers' 50m arch saw the ball moved forward quickly by the Tigers to Roberts who was along and ran and drilled through a goal from 45m out. The lead was back to 12 points a minute later after Gumbleton took a strong contested mark 45m out on an angle and kicked his first goal. A free kick to Monfries 35m out and on an angle resulted in the next Essendon goal as the Bombers took control through the midfield and started to take over the game. Some nice work on the half forward line from Ryder then Williams saw the ball again end with Davey who missed a relatively simple chance on the run from a tight angle when he should have handballed to Monfries in the goal square.
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seems like its gonna be the same old crap this yr
nothing will change
Only a practice match remember and we have all been told the year we are going to have.
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The spoon is looking good right now
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Thought we'd be at least competitive today. So disappointing. Sounds as though we're getting pumped in the midfield (apart from Lids) and can't get the ball forward. No talls standing up. Only a rare few giving a stuff.
From WP:
"Nason, Lids, Farmer all good. Rest forget. No intensity. Skills dropped away. Heads dropped when things turned 2 crap."
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The spoon is looking good right now
At least pick 4 is looking good.
No intensity and heads dropping is what ticks you off the most. I know it's only a practice match and the result means stuff all but it's not good going into round 1 on the back of a flogging.
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Good to see Nason is playing well and he is over his knee brusing.
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seems like its gonna be the same old crap this yr
nothing will change
Only a practice match remember and we have all been told the year we are going to have.
thats the wrong mentality, have to wanna win every game u play. this is our last hit out befor rnd one
why play midgets like king down back???
i hope hardwick is just bluffing and not caring and revealing his real game plan in 2 weeks, even a b grade blues team will pump us
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Good to see Nason is playing well and he is over his knee brusing.
nason played well last week , missed an easy goal but overall was impressive
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seems like its gonna be the same old crap this yr
nothing will change
Only a practice match remember and we have all been told the year we are going to have.
thats the wrong mentality, have to wanna win every game u play. this is our last hit out befor rnd one
why play midgets like king down back???
i hope hardwick is just bluffing and not caring and revealing his real game plan in 2 weeks, even a b grade blues team will pump us
poo I can't take a trick can I ??? Whe I said we should win the Geelong game I was accused of taking the practice games too seriously and now this?? UNREAL!!!!!!
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RFC blog - Richmond's best players in the first half were Nason and Roberts.
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Goal Ess
34 - 82
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Hislop gets it back
40 - 82
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Point to Bombers
40 - 83
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Some nice work on the wing by Gumbleton got the ball going Essendon's way in the third and an excellent left foot opportunist snap by Monfries was a fitting result. The Tigers put pressure on the Bomber defence and hit back with a Hislop goal.
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Jack Riewoldt kicked a brilliant goal from the boundary line - the first time in the match the Tigers have managed back-to-back goals. :gotigers
46 - 83
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The locals were expecting about 10,000 fans. It may have reached that.
10 mins Q3
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Jack gets another
52 - 83
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RFC blog - Riewoldt kicks another! A minute after his first for the afternoon, he marks and goals from 30m to make the margin 31 points. The Tigers are coming!
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Point Bombers
52 - 84
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After being relatively qiet in the first half Reiwoldt stepped up with a running goal on and angle followed quickly by a strong mark and goal from 40m out.
Under pressure
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Jack must have woken up lol
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Bomber goal. Bugger!
52 - 90
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Less than a minute later, Tom Hislop kicked his second for the quarter after a mark and 50m penalty. :gotigers
58 - 90
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Under pressure the Bombers looked set to reply when Watson found a leading Williams but the shot missed.
Again Essendon went forward and, after some mucking around, Reimers snapped around his body for a nice goal.
A 50m against Watson took Hislop to the goal square and he booted his second.
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Goalkickers for the Tigers so far are Roberts 2, Hislop 2, Riewoldt 2, Morton, Nason, Nahas.
Goal to the Dons. Damn1
58 - 96
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Tyrone Vickery, who kicks his second (sic it was his first) from a set shot. :gotigers
64 - 96
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Defender Dempsey was the next unlikely goal scorer before Vickory marked and goaled to bring the margin back to 32 points.
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There is definitely more application from the Tigers in this quarter. And it's showing on the scoreboard...Morton just kicked his second! Margin is now 26. :gotigers
70 - 96
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Bloody goal to Essendon
70 - 102
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The Bombers seemed to be half asleep and Rinchmond were surging when Morton marked and napped a nice goal from a 45 degree angle.
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Why in the hell does it take so freaking long for us to get going?? It can not happen like this come round one, they will have to be switched on from the opening bounce.
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RFC blog - The game has opened up in the third quarter. It's a very entertaining contest.
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A 50m penalty to Ryder in the centre square took him to within scoring distance and the big ruckman, who had impressed all day, booted his first.
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RFC blog -
The Tigers are playing much more direct football this quarter, and are working in an open forward line. Also, the midfield is on top at the moment.
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point to us
71 - 102
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Better to kick in late than not all WAT
(this one not from the efc site )
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Better to kick in late than not all WAT
(this one not from the efc site )
Come round 1 it won't be.
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Why in the hell does it take so freaking long for us to get going?? It can not happen like this come round one, they will have to be switched on from the opening bounce.
Game has opened up which suits us. It's when opposition sides pressure and squeeze us that we struggle and our footskills go to pieces as there's no obvious free options.
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Essendon kicks a goal after the three quarter time siren through Zaharakis.
Three quarter time:
Ess 5.3 12.4 17.7.109,
Rich 2.3 5.4 11.5.71
ESSENDON:
Monfries 3, Zaharakis 2, Reimers 2, M.Williams, Neagle, Gumbleton, Stanton, Winderlich, Hocking, Watson, Dempsey, Ryder
RICHMOND:
Roberts 2, Riewoldt 2, Hislop 2, Morton 2, Nason, Nahas, Vickory
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How many times do those bastards kick those late goals fairdinkum
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Why in the hell does it take so freaking long for us to get going?? It can not happen like this come round one, they will have to be switched on from the opening bounce.
Game has opened up which suits us. It's when opposition sides pressure and squeeze us that we struggle and our footskills go to pieces as there's no obvious free options.
Lets hope they can address those issues then, all in good time I suppose.
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How long since youve seen a richmond side show any sort of fight when getting a pummelling?
thats an improvement in itself and i would much rather see a late kick in than not at all in any game.
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All need to address coughing up so many red time goals. Bombers kicks the last 2 of the 1st, last so many in the 2nd and last 2 in the 3rd.
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Zaharakis marked on the forward stuff as the siren went - his kick after the siren going through for his third goal.
Richmond won the quarter but the lead was still 38-points going into the final quarter.
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RFC blog -
A very good quarter from the Tigers - two goals at the end of the quarter from the Bombers spoilt the comeback effort.
Pleasingly there have been no injuries so far.
Daniel Jackson and Adam Thompson were instrumental that quater in giving the Tigers first use. The clearances were won 10-4 by Richmond that quarter.
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True, MT. It's gotta be an attitude/fitness issue.
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How long since youve seen a richmond side show any sort of fight when getting a pummelling?
thats an improvement in itself and i would much rather see a late kick in than not at all in any game.
Its definetly been a long time since we have had the ability to do that, It's definetly an improvement.
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WP at Morwell:
"Bests - Lids great qtr. Simmo, Jack, Tyrone, Farmer. Really like Nason.
Much better qtr. Played more man on man footy. Simple really. LOL."
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RFC blog -
A very good quarter from the Tigers - two goals at the end of the quarter from the Bombers spoilt the comeback effort.
Pleasingly there have been no injuries so far.
Daniel Jackson and Adam Thompson were instrumental that quater in giving the Tigers first use. The clearances were won 10-4 by Richmond that quarter.
Makes you wonder where they were in the first half doesn't it?? Cotchin and Martin haven't been mentioned and thats a shame.
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RFC blog -
A very good quarter from the Tigers - two goals at the end of the quarter from the Bombers spoilt the comeback effort.
Pleasingly there have been no injuries so far.
Daniel Jackson and Adam Thompson were instrumental that quater in giving the Tigers first use. The clearances were won 10-4 by Richmond that quarter.
Makes you wonder where they were in the first half doesn't it?? Cotchin and Martin haven't been mentioned and thats a shame.
Yep need to do it for 4 quarters. No point starting up when we're 7 goals down and the game is gone.
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fight it out young fellers
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First goal last qtr to ess
71 - 115
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No goals from the midefielders
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The midfielders have drifted in and out of the game. All have had their fair share of the footy.
Another bomber goal :-\
71 - 121
last 4 goals to Essendon
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A lovely pass from Dempsey to Williams in the opening minute saw the Bombers start in style. His kick from 50m sailing through for a goal. (EFC)
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The midfielders have drifted in and out of the game. All have had their fair share of the footy.
Another bomber goal :-\
71 - 121
last 4 goals to Essendon
Not good enough really, to let it blow out again, you have to ask where the intencity has gone now. We don't seem to ba able to even kick the magical 16 goals now too. Oh well back to it!!
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A good mark in defence from Hooker and classy work from Hille on the wing to find a running Ryder brought up the next Bomber goal.
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SEN saying the Bombers have been very slick. Ball not touching the ground and no Tiger touching it.
Richmond bests - Nason, Taylor both used ball well. Can teach their senior players a thing or two. Turnovers been costly. Same old story for Tigers. Lids and Tambling let themselves down at times with poor decisioon making or skill.
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according to sen it is the senior players like tambling and deledio letting them down with poor disposal, wasting their opportunities.
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EFC blog - Martin has been good for Richmond
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The game see-sawed with Fletcher, Pears, Slattery and Hooker solid in defence and Ryder threatening.
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Bombers last 5 goals
71 - 127
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RFC blog - The fizz has gone out of this match.
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LOL 57 points down will make you look at a game like that
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50m penalties are becoming a real issue :banghead
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RFC blog - The fizz has gone out of this match.
It has from us :P
WP said Lids has been good so not sure what game SEN is watching.
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So many 50s.
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Bomnbers now last 6
71 - 134
So much for fighting it out ::)
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It took some excellent evasive work by Watson in the Bombers' forward 50m to bring up the next goal, finding Welsh who kicked truly. EFC
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SEN are full of...
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RFC blog - The fizz has gone out of this match.
It has from us :P
WP said Lids has been good so not sure what game SEN is watching.
Said that they had plenty of the ball but didn't take their opportunites
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50m penalties are becoming a real issue :banghead
I wonder if these are genuine 50s or that BS "5m protected zone" new rule ::)
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Another goal to Essendon, through Jason Winderlich. Scores: Ess 22.9.141 to Rich 11.5.71.
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Either way they should be awake to it by now MT
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Bomnbers now last 6
71 - 134
So much for fighting it out ::)
Mmmmmm, not nice!!
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A shocking kick-out by Richmond saw a free kick awarded to Gumbleton. A 50m penalty to the Tigers then saw him taken to the goal square for an easy goal.
Davey missed a simple chance a minute later but still put the Bombers up by 64 points. He had a chance to make amends moments later runing into goal but, unselfishly, he handballed over to Winderlich for Essendon's 22nd goal.
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We have a Looooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooonnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnngggggggggggggggggggggggggggggg way to go.
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Out to 76 points now. Bombers 8 in a row.
71 - 147
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2011
this yr is doomed already
all we wanted is a team that showd something
we show nothing
we are a joke and always will be
3 0 75k
wont happen , we will not be around and be kicked out of the afl
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Excellent vision and skill by Prismall to find Hille resulted in the big fella's first and the lead was out to 76-points.
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Out to 76 points now. Bombers 8 in a row.
71 - 147
Wow, bit of a disgrace now, practice match or not, we can't afford to get pumbled like this with just about a full strength side.
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What, you never thought it was going to happen a few times this year?
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Not fussed. Must look past this result.
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Is there anyone who is showing any fight at all
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2011
this yr is doomed already
all we wanted is a team that showd something
we show nothing
we are a joke and always will be
3 0 75k
wont happen , we will not be around and be kicked out of the afl
Man are you going to be peeed after round one if this is how you react after a practice game... ;D
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What, you never thought it was going to happen a few times this year?
we show no fight, the proper season will be worse
get ready for the season from hell
we will make the saints from the 80's look good
we are poo
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2011
this yr is doomed already
all we wanted is a team that showd something
we show nothing
we are a joke and always will be
3 0 75k
wont happen , we will not be around and be kicked out of the afl
gee, do you want directions to the gap mate :o
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What, you never thought it was going to happen a few times this year?
Thats not the point, is there ever going to be anyone that stands up when the onslaught begins or do they all just sit back and let it happen. Not really concerned about the result but the players need to have a look at their attitudes IMO, to let that score blow out like that.
What if it happens more than less this year will you be satisfied??
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We finally scored a point before the siren.
Final Score
ESS 5.3 12.4 17.7 23.9-147
Rich 2.3 5.4 11.5 11.6-72
GOALS
ESSENDON:
Monfries 3, Zaharakis 3, Reimers 2, M.Williams 2, Ryder 2, Gumbleton 2, Winderlich 2, Neagle, Stanton, Hocking, Watson, Dempsey, Welsh, Hille
RICHMOND:
Roberts 2, Riewoldt 2, Hislop 2, Morton 2, Nason, Nahas, Vickory
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2011
this yr is doomed already
all we wanted is a team that showd something
we show nothing
we are a joke and always will be
3 0 75k
wont happen , we will not be around and be kicked out of the afl
Man are you going to be peeed after round one if this is how you react after a practice game... ;D
may have to go overseas for 6 months, these tigers are gonna give me a heart attack, all i wanna see if effort, effort , effort
we are weak minded bastards with no balls at ttigerland
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We finally scored a point before the siren.
Final Score
ESS 5.3 12.4 17.7 23.9-147
Rich 2.3 5.4 11.5 11.6-72
GOALS
ESSENDON:
Monfries 3, Zaharakis 3, Reimers 2, M.Williams 2, Ryder 2, Gumbleton 2, Winderlich 2, Neagle, Stanton, Hocking, Watson, Dempsey, Welsh, Hille
RICHMOND:
Roberts 2, Riewoldt 2, Hislop 2, Morton 2, Nason, Nahas, Vickory
Thanks for all the reports OE and everyone else.
Would really love to know what went wrong in the end.
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even though this is only a prac game, its absoloutly disgraceful to lose by that much with a full strength side.
how are we spose to get memebers by getting hammered?
Looks like we're going to lose round 1 by over 100
this seriously makes me sick, i have enough, our skill level has been the same since i can remember. It just seems impossible to improve at all.
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We finally scored a point before the siren.
Final Score
ESS 5.3 12.4 17.7 23.9-147
Rich 2.3 5.4 11.5 11.6-72
GOALS
ESSENDON:
Monfries 3, Zaharakis 3, Reimers 2, M.Williams 2, Ryder 2, Gumbleton 2, Winderlich 2, Neagle, Stanton, Hocking, Watson, Dempsey, Welsh, Hille
RICHMOND:
Roberts 2, Riewoldt 2, Hislop 2, Morton 2, Nason, Nahas, Vickory
Thanks for all the reports OE and everyone else.
Would really love to know what went wrong in the end.
Ill be betting they rested alot of our guns in the last quarter, well i hope they did!
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you expect the new blokes to be able to stand up and do that now?
you think that the blokes that couldnt do it last year will be able to miraculously be able to do it now?
Hardwick has said 10% improvement per year.
If you have high expectations then you are gunna have a miserable year.
They have shown they can play the way hardwick wants, just not against a good side that are switched on.
They will be notoriously inconsistent, not just week to week, but quarter to quarter.
We will not worry any good side that turns up to play, but if they arent switched on we could upset them.
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Tigerland09, WAT and X pull your heads in..
Wake up to reality..
There are countries with earthquakes, crime and poverty throughtout... we've lost a practice match against a full strength essendon outfit with about 10 players yet to debut for the club..
Stop embarrassing yourselves...
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We have to accept this s going to happen more often than not this year.
The sooner we acknowledge that the easier it will be to support
Any chance we can talk about the positives instead of whinging how bad wee were?
How big are the holes in defence?
Roberts looks like he's done enough to play round 1
How was Browne?
How did our skipper play?
Has Thompson done enough to play round 1?
Cotchin? Martin? Vickory?
Who didn't look good?
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What, you never thought it was going to happen a few times this year?
It's going to be quite common sadly this year :help. I'd be really surprised if we don't come last.
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Main one positive frm today is no injuries according to WP :thumbsup.
WP's bests: "Lids, Simmo, Nason. Tambo was good in last qtr. Thought Gourdis show some really good signs."
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Tigerland09, WAT and X pull your heads in..
Wake up to reality..
There are countries with earthquakes, crime and poverty throughtout... we've lost a practice match against a full strength essendon outfit with about 10 players yet to debut for the club..
Stop embarrassing yourselves...
well u help those countries, i dont give a rats behind about those countries, do those countries care about the rfc...no!
i care about what the rfc does and whats in my back yard
im not here to save the world!
u do that
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Sadness and Dissapointment comes failnt to met expectations... Surely no1 expects us to do well this year?
Why can't people get excited about the development of a new breed: Roberts, Browne, Nason, Taylor, Martin etc. If you can't get slightly excited about the next breed you"re weak as pee. Everyone is quick to slam our players for not putting in and being soft; To fail to be excited and see the positives of some new players is just as soft.
Time for our supporters to change stop complaining and simply shut up.
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Leave out the personal digs ppl! We're all not happy about being flogged.
Stick to just discussing the game.
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12 months ago we beat Brisbane (in Qld) in our final practice match.....we all know what happened in rd 1.
2 years ago we got flogged by Geelong in our final practice match.....and we ruined the Carlton/Chris Judd party in round 1.
In 2006 we beat the Bulldogs by plenty in a practice match only to recieve a 100 pt whacking a couple of weeks later in round 1.
Practice match form means nothing.
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Tigerland09, WAT and X pull your heads in..
Wake up to reality..
There are countries with earthquakes, crime and poverty throughtout... we've lost a practice match against a full strength essendon outfit with about 10 players yet to debut for the club..
Stop embarrassing yourselves...
Why am I embarrassing myself.... Dad... I said I dont care about the result as it is a practice match but I am concerned about the apparent lack of intensity with the final score line and the fact we kicked 1 point to 7 goals in the last qtr. Do you think that the last qtr score line was acceptable???
BTW go join the Peace Core if you are that worried about mother nature and Wold crisis... :thumbsup
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It's called perspective champ.
I'll cop criticism about my football side but it takes a pretty weak unit to call a bunch of teenagers against a full strength side that played finals last year pack of weak bastards.
Sorry champ but that's weak as pee. Weak as Ive seen..
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Any chance we can talk about the positives instead of whinging how bad wee were?
Nason sounded like he had a decent game. As did Farmer.
Unfortunately it's hard to come up with positives in a 12 goal loss even in a practice game..
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Roberts
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I'd be really surprised if we don't come last.
Agree MT of course it's likely.
Some here are forgetting we came 15th last season and we've cut a heap of experienced players from the team with 14 youngsters coming in.
We have to be PATIENT and expect these terrible losses from time to time this year. It may even happen a lot.
Evidently there is still plenty of delusion about going by some responses on this thread.
It ain't going to be all that pretty in 2010 but we have to look at the big picture.
Seems that's too hard for some to bare already.
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We'll be 15th ! Deeeeez have 16th sown up ;D
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Yeah good to hear Roberts and Nason played well.
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Looks like I picked the right game to go to :thumbsup 100% record for cub! Lets keep it that way until round 2 of the season proper :pray
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Tigerland09, WAT and X pull your heads in..
Wake up to reality..
There are countries with earthquakes, crime and poverty throughtout... we've lost a practice match against a full strength essendon outfit with about 10 players yet to debut for the club..
Stop embarrassing yourselves...
We have a bunch of kids yet to debut running around anyone setting expectations is kidding themselves..
I'll cop Bowden McMahon Johnson Brown Richo etc not being good enough. I won't cop our current new draftees being called weak and being unacceptable in a practise match.. Common sense suggests we let them debut first before writtung them off for life...
Why am I embarrassing myself.... Dad... I said I dont care about the result as it is a practice match but I am concerned about the apparent lack of intensity with the final score line and the fact we kicked 1 point to 7 goals in the last qtr. Do you think that the last qtr score line was acceptable???
BTW go join the Peace Core if you are that worried about mother nature and Wold crisis... :thumbsup
I did not say they were week and I did not aim anything directly at young players or individuals, if you are going to have a go at me get your facts right first or leave my name out of your posts.
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just got home from the game lol what a long drive not took a whole 4 minutes
Pathetic from Richmond
never seen any other team when moving the ball forward on the wing many times that not one single player was in our forward 70 metres wafj
Kicking the ball to no-mans land lol
McGuane passing the ball off many times back into the corridor right in front of goals, which cost telling goals. Thats not taught in football. his a idiot
Having a oversized water carrier who was puffed out after her first run is a shocking site to have around any league footy game while the Essendon players got refreshed many times lmfao
Essendon wore our players jumpers nearly when we went forward yet we gave them so much room to move you could commentate what was happening
l'm over the RFC :banghead there is no excuse for this type of football, lucky l never had to pay to see that rubbish & Essendon had no McVeigh
We will not win a game this year & can tell you the umpires do not like Richmond
Essendon are a young club like us & they are so much bigger & well drilled its laughable, they did what they wanted
The heads went down in the 2nd quarter & half time the players started to form a huddle to see peeweak Captain newman run past them not saying a word.
That tells a story of weak leadership.
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I'd be really surprised if we don't come last.
Agree MT of course it's likely.
Some here are forgetting we came 15th last season and we've cut a heap of experienced players from the team with 14 youngsters coming in.
We have to be PATIENT and expect these terrible losses from time to time this year. It may even happen a lot.
Evidently there is still plenty of delusion about going by some responses on this thread.
It ain't going to be all that pretty in 2010 but we have to look at the big picture.
Seems that's too hard for some to bare already.
Agree Magic. It won't be pleasant but it's called bottoming out. Another 2 years of struggling isn't going to kill us after 28 years being crap.
Big picture = getting games into the cubs during this season and then adding another top 5 pick and a further clean out at the end of the season.
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just got home from the game lol what a long drive not took a whole 4 minutes
Pathetic from Richmond
never seen any other team when moving the ball forward on the wing many times that not one single player was in our forward 70 metres wafj
Kicking the ball to no-mans land lol
McGuane passing the ball off many times back into the corridor right in front of goals, which cost telling goals. Thats not taught in football. his a idiot
Having a oversized water carrier who was puffed out after her first run is a shocking site to have around any league footy game while the Essendon players got refreshed many times lmfao
Essendon wore our players jumpers nearly when we went forward yet we gave them so much room to move you could commentate what was happening
l'm over the RFC :banghead there is no excuse for this type of football, lucky l never had to pay to see that rubbish & Essendon had no McVeigh
We will not win a game this year & can tell you the umpires do not like Richmond
Essendon are a young club like us & they are so much bigger & well drilled its laughable, they did what they wanted
The heads went down in the 2nd quarter & half time the players started to form a huddle to see peeweak Captain newman run past them not saying a word.
That tells a story of weak leadership.
Geezus man you had better hope Popelord doesn't read this report..... ;D ;D ;D
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Tigerland09, WAT and X pull your heads in..
Wake up to reality..
There are countries with earthquakes, crime and poverty throughtout... we've lost a practice match against a full strength essendon outfit with about 10 players yet to debut for the club..
Stop embarrassing yourselves...
We have a bunch of kids yet to debut running around anyone setting expectations is kidding themselves..
I'll cop Bowden McMahon Johnson Brown Richo etc not being good enough. I won't cop our current new draftees being called weak and being unacceptable in a practise match.. Common sense suggests we let them debut first before writtung them off for life...
Why am I embarrassing myself.... Dad... I said I dont care about the result as it is a practice match but I am concerned about the apparent lack of intensity with the final score line and the fact we kicked 1 point to 7 goals in the last qtr. Do you think that the last qtr score line was acceptable???
BTW go join the Peace Core if you are that worried about mother nature and Wold crisis... :thumbsup
I did not say they were week and I did not aim anything directly at young players or individuals, if you are going to have a go at me get your facts right first or leave my name out of your posts.
I'm not getting in a post war with you.
You've whinged all throughout this thread, you can dish it out to our players but but can't take it.
I want to read and post about the game not hear how dissapointed you are about a practise game result.
Back to the thread.
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have to play 1on1 man on man footy from the start against Carlton.
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Tigerland09, WAT and X pull your heads in..
Wake up to reality..
There are countries with earthquakes, crime and poverty throughtout... we've lost a practice match against a full strength essendon outfit with about 10 players yet to debut for the club..
Stop embarrassing yourselves...
We have a bunch of kids yet to debut running around anyone setting expectations is kidding themselves..
I'll cop Bowden McMahon Johnson Brown Richo etc not being good enough. I won't cop our current new draftees being called weak and being unacceptable in a practise match.. Common sense suggests we let them debut first before writtung them off for life...
Why am I embarrassing myself.... Dad... I said I dont care about the result as it is a practice match but I am concerned about the apparent lack of intensity with the final score line and the fact we kicked 1 point to 7 goals in the last qtr. Do you think that the last qtr score line was acceptable???
BTW go join the Peace Core if you are that worried about mother nature and Wold crisis... :thumbsup
I did not say they were week and I did not aim anything directly at young players or individuals, if you are going to have a go at me get your facts right first or leave my name out of your posts.
I'm not getting in a post war with you.
You've whinged all throughout this thread, you can dish it out to our players but but can't take it.
I want to read and post about the game not hear how dissapointed you are about a practise game result.
Back to the thread.
Yet again, GET YOUR FACTS RIGHT!!! I did not whinge once, are you drinking or smoking some poo because you are so far off the mark regarding my posts. Just me that is apparently dissapointed is it?? there are a few posters on this thread that are a lot more apparently jacked off with the result.
READ THIS...... I COULDN'T CARE LESS ABOUT THE RESULT, I CARE ABOUT THE APPARENT LACK OF INTENSITY.......... DO YOU GET IT!!!
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have to play 1on1 man on man footy from the start against Carlton.
thats exactly right Ramps.
telling these players to play that type of football & not maning up & not giving respect to your opponant is a disaster for any team in any division.
You will never win a game without several plans coming out of a backline & the option & timing of that play, we are shocking. l could fix that problem in several sessions of skill training. These players aint taking things serious, they are not pushing hard enough to push another player out of the team.
Not knowing how to switch the play or hold the ball up & take time to scan your options.
& as for the coaching. any coach who allows players to do stupid things & give away stupid 50 metres without draging them should not be coaching league
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have to play 1on1 man on man footy from the start against Carlton.
Yep make them play accountable footy. I don't think we have much of a choice though. Opposition clubs have been able to shut us down fairly easily. It's only when a game has opened up and it's 1-on-1 do we start getting the ball moving effectively and supply our forwards properly to score.
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have to play 1on1 man on man footy from the start against Carlton.
Yep make them play accountable footy. I don't think we have much of a choice though. Opposition clubs have been able to shut us down fairly easily. It's only when a game has opened up and it's 1-on-1 do we start getting the ball moving effectively and supply our forwards properly to score.
Well I don't think they are going to deviate from the game plan until the players either get it or they get players in that can get it. So I think we will see a lot more games like today.
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You will never win a game without several plans coming out of a backline & the option & timing of that play, we are shocking. Not knowing how to switch the play or hold the ball up & take time to scan your options.
That frustrated me big time as well TM. The concept of quickly going to the side where the space is coming out of defence and having a teammate or two upfield running into this space (spreading) to be the receiver seems a foreign concept to most of our players. Makes me :banghead. Until we learn footy basics and can do them at pace and with urgency then we won't improve.
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did cotchin play? from the ESS scoring opportunities, would indicate our midfield was slaughtered
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have to play 1on1 man on man footy from the start against Carlton.
Yep make them play accountable footy. I don't think we have much of a choice though. Opposition clubs have been able to shut us down fairly easily. It's only when a game has opened up and it's 1-on-1 do we start getting the ball moving effectively and supply our forwards properly to score.
you got to play 1 on 1 football right from the start & stay playing 1 on 1 to learn how to compete & win the hard ball
tell me 1 game we have done this in as many years cause l cannot name one.
if the players maned up & forced teams to contest the ball, l'm sure we have players who are small & would recover quicker & win the ball
We cannot compete against teams when they are playing fast flowing football & playing 10 metres off your player as we are too small in size & weight
match ups were a joke at times
forward thrusts were laughable, l have never seen such a stupid game plan were your FF gets the ball on the centre wing to have no-one past the centre square to except it wafj
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did cotchin play? from the ESS scoring opportunities, would indicate our midfield was slaughtered
Cotch played according to WP but his name wasn't mention during the live call on the RFC site. Not sure how much gametime he had.
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Just got home from game.
:banghead
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Just got home from game.
:banghead
Can't wait for your report JS.... :lol
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have to play 1on1 man on man footy from the start against Carlton.
Yep make them play accountable footy. I don't think we have much of a choice though. Opposition clubs have been able to shut us down fairly easily. It's only when a game has opened up and it's 1-on-1 do we start getting the ball moving effectively and supply our forwards properly to score.
you got to play 1 on 1 football right from the start & stay playing 1 on 1 to learn how to compete & win the hard ball
tell me 1 game we have done this in as many years cause l cannot name one.
if the players maned up & forced teams to contest the ball, l'm sure we have players who are small & would recover quicker & win the ball
We cannot compete against teams when they are playing fast flowing football & playing 10 metres off your player as we are too small in size & weight
match ups were a joke at times
forward thrusts were laughable, l have never seen such a stupid game plan were your FF gets the ball on the centre wing to have no-one past the centre square to except it wafj
Correct
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did cotchin play? from the ESS scoring opportunities, would indicate our midfield was slaughtered
yes he did play.
you can have 5 Cotchins out there but the players are too small & are non thinkers.
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Just got home from game.
:banghead
Can't wait for your report JS.... :lol
Whats the point, ::)
Tell you what I think but you will disagree anyway
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you must have left early J lol ;D
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did cotchin play? from the ESS scoring opportunities, would indicate our midfield was slaughtered
yes he did play.
you can have 5 Cotchins out there but the players are too small & are non thinkers.
Correct.
Where do we start.
Nahas, why on earth would you play him outside F 50, once sucked down the ground, he is easily push aside.
If he plays, he plays inside F50, VERY SIMPLE
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Just got home from game.
:banghead
Can't wait for your report JS.... :lol
Whats the point, ::)
Tell you what I think but you will disagree anyway
Actually no I won't I would appreciate it because I can't understand what went so wrong in particular the last quater. Are we reading into the loss too much because it's a practice game or were we that bad??
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Just got home from game.
:banghead
Can't wait for your report JS.... :lol
Whats the point, ::)
Tell you what I think but you will disagree anyway
Jack seriously here tell me what you think of McGuane
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you must have left early J lol ;D
Only took 1.38mins to get home :thumbsup
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Just got home from game.
:banghead
Can't wait for your report JS.... :lol
Whats the point, ::)
Tell you what I think but you will disagree anyway
Actually no I won't I would appreciate it because I can't understand what went so wrong in particular the last quater. Are we reading into the loss too much because it's a practice game or were we that bad??
We are THAT BAD
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Just got home from game.
:banghead
Can't wait for your report JS.... :lol
Whats the point, ::)
Tell you what I think but you will disagree anyway
Actually no I won't I would appreciate it because I can't understand what went so wrong in particular the last quater. Are we reading into the loss too much because it's a practice game or were we that bad??
We are THAT BAD
Man..... :(
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Just got home from game.
:banghead
Can't wait for your report JS.... :lol
Whats the point, ::)
Tell you what I think but you will disagree anyway
Jack seriously here tell me what you think of McGuane
What about in the first quarter when he knocked the ball down straight down to an Essendon player instead of killing the ball, WTF.
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I actually like Farmer, but after today ::)
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Just got home from game.
:banghead
Can't wait for your report JS.... :lol
Whats the point, ::)
Tell you what I think but you will disagree anyway
Actually no I won't I would appreciate it because I can't understand what went so wrong in particular the last quater. Are we reading into the loss too much because it's a practice game or were we that bad??
no we have some skilled footballers who can play, but we are so undersized & let teams play the way they want.
Its no use playing off the man who gets the ball delivered on the run when your smaller than him anyway & jumping late to help them more with stipid late arrival 50m penalty
we have too many players who willnot support & prefer to watch, no talky talky out there. Leadership from captain is ZIP
if l'm standing on the boundry & not hearing them talking, they aint trying hard enough & not supporting each other FACT
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Just got home from game.
:banghead
Can't wait for your report JS.... :lol
Whats the point, ::)
Tell you what I think but you will disagree anyway
Actually no I won't I would appreciate it because I can't understand what went so wrong in particular the last quater. Are we reading into the loss too much because it's a practice game or were we that bad??
no we have some skilled footballers who can play, but we are so undersized & let teams play the way they want.
Its no use playing off the man who gets the ball delivered on the run when your smaller than him anyway & jumping late to help them more with stipid late arrival 50m penalty
we have too many players who willnot support & prefer to watch, no talky talky out there. Leadership from captain is ZIP
if l'm standing on the boundry & not hearing them talking, they aint trying hard enough & not supporting each other FACT
thats why I never wanted newman as cappo. He's a by product of the selfish generation of richmond players tat are awesome at milking cheap stats never gut running/taking the game on. Need a complete fresh start incl capt
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Just got home from game.
:banghead
Can't wait for your report JS.... :lol
Whats the point, ::)
Tell you what I think but you will disagree anyway
Actually no I won't I would appreciate it because I can't understand what went so wrong in particular the last quater. Are we reading into the loss too much because it's a practice game or were we that bad??
no we have some skilled footballers who can play, but we are so undersized & let teams play the way they want.
Its no use playing off the man who gets the ball delivered on the run when your smaller than him anyway & jumping late to help them more with stipid late arrival 50m penalty
we have too many players who willnot support & prefer to watch, no talky talky out there. Leadership from captain is ZIP
if l'm standing on the boundry & not hearing them talking, they aint trying hard enough & not supporting each other FACT
Gee, bit of a shame then, at least Roberts went ok I suppose or did he go missing as well or did the ball just not get down there.
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What about in the first quarter when he knocked the ball down straight down to an Essendon player instead of killing the ball, WTF.
he did it all day :banghead l can count 4 goals direct from his play
everybody in the crowd heard me yell WTF drugs you on skinny ;D when near the North end pocket he handballed back into the centre corridor for a turnover goal.
fair dinkum the next he had a clear punch of the ball & punched it to the end of the box dead straight perfect full fisted punch forward to a waiting Bummer who goaled when you would tap it through for a point ;D such a dumbass
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Just got home from game.
:banghead
Can't wait for your report JS.... :lol
Whats the point, ::)
Tell you what I think but you will disagree anyway
Actually no I won't I would appreciate it because I can't understand what went so wrong in particular the last quater. Are we reading into the loss too much because it's a practice game or were we that bad??
no we have some skilled footballers who can play, but we are so undersized & let teams play the way they want.
Its no use playing off the man who gets the ball delivered on the run when your smaller than him anyway & jumping late to help them more with stipid late arrival 50m penalty
we have too many players who willnot support & prefer to watch, no talky talky out there. Leadership from captain is ZIP
if l'm standing on the boundry & not hearing them talking, they aint trying hard enough & not supporting each other FACT
Would agree, you should of told me you were going.
Watched the second half with the ""Ferrals"" behind the goals. :lol
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Gee, bit of a shame then, at least Roberts went ok I suppose or did he go missing as well or did the ball just not get down there.
Roberts has some brilliant talent & with support could play a very dangerous role
kicked 2 perfect low goals from 40+ & was a gem to watch
needs more support from Tall forwards who have no idea what they have around them
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Wasn't today McGuane's first run?
Maybe Hardwick's experimenting with Nahas in the midfield?
Wasn't today a practice match?
I don't have high expectations but I'm going to laugh at some here if we come out and beat the Blues. :lol
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Would agree, you should of told me you were going.
Watched the second half with the ""Ferrals"" behind the goals. :lol
was late decision to go as l should have been in Melbourne but can go tomorrow
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Tell you all what is wrong with Richmond.
We havent got enough players who can win the ball when in dispute.
the reasons for this are endless.
Players dont put there head over the ball.
If we havent got the ball, some dont want to know about it, and its then left for too few.
Today was absolutely HOPELESS.
The wheels fell off about 10 mins in the 2nd quarter
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Tell you all what is wrong with Richmond.
We havent got enough players who can win the ball when in dispute.
Did Tuck or Foley play today Jackie?
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Wasn't today McGuane's first run?
Maybe Hardwick's experimenting with Nahas in the midfield?
Wasn't today a practice match?
I don't have high expectations but I'm going to laugh at some here if we come out and beat the Blues. :lol
TODAY, was the last ""tune up"" for round 1
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TODAY, was the last ""tune up"" for round 1
Big effing deal. It was a practice match not the real thing.
Like I said my expectations are low. Seems yours aren't however.
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Wasn't today McGuane's first run?
Maybe Hardwick's experimenting with Nahas in the midfield?
Wasn't today a practice match?
I don't have high expectations but I'm going to laugh at some here if we come out and beat the Blues. :lol
would not matter if it was Mcguane 1st game which l'm sure its not. what he did was point blank stupid, l would have draged him each time for those mistakes
Nahas is not a midfielder & never will be his too small & would end his career
Today was a practice match but its meant to fine tune your skills, we dont have many exception Roberts
l hate Carlton so l expect Richmond to win everytime ;D with a passion
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TODAY, was the last ""tune up"" for round 1
Big effing deal. It was a practice match not the real thing.
Like I said my expectations are low. Seems yours aren't however.
WTF, I seen players jump out of the way of Angus Monfries today, we have a huge problem down there :banghead :banghead :banghead
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WTF, I seen players jump out of the way of Angus Monfries today, we have a huge problem down there :banghead :banghead :banghead
No schitt Sherlock. You think Hardwick doesn't know it?
Any injuries today?
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Ok, here's what I thought of todays game.
I watched from the 50m line at the entrance gate.
The guys that have never been coached by Wallace were all ok. :lol Maybe not Farmer, he made a few blues.
Martin BOG. Poor kid is probably going to draw the number one tagger from round 1.
Nason was great early, and kept presenting all day.
Connors good apart from a couple of skill errors.
Lids I thought was quiet, but he might have been doing all his work on the opposite side of the ground.
Cotchin quiet early but worked into it.
Gourdis is worth perservering with, I thought he was handy.
Roberts exciting early.
Taylor didn't get a touch till 3rd quarter I reckon, but looks silky.
Jackson stood out in the 3rd quarter, but just bombs the ball.
The forward line wasn't clicking in the first half.
Riewoldt kicked a ripper from the boundary line in front of us. He kept trying and is dangerous around goal.
Morton was ok, not outstanding, kicked a couple though.
Backline, uh, well the ball was coming in quite easily, so they were under a lot of pressure. What stood out though was Gumbleton had at different stages, Polo as an opponent, Tambling and Farmer. Gumbleton is a big boy, those three aren't.
I might get abuse for this, but Hislop might be ok, took some strong grabs. Just needs to stop giving 50m penalties away.
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none that l'm aware
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Ok, here's what I thought of todays game.
I watched from the 50m line at the entrance gate.
The guys that have never been coached by Wallace were all ok. :lol Maybe not Farmer, he made a few blues.
Martin BOG. Poor kid is probably going to draw the number one tagger from round 1.
Nason was great early, and kept presenting all day.
Connors good apart from a couple of skill errors.
Lids I thought was quiet, but he might have been doing all his work on the opposite side of the ground.
Cotchin quiet early but worked into it.
Gourdis is worth perservering with, I thought he was handy.
Roberts exciting early.
Taylor didn't get a touch till 3rd quarter I reckon, but looks silky.
Jackson stood out in the 3rd quarter, but just bombs the ball.
The forward line wasn't clicking in the first half.
Riewoldt kicked a ripper from the boundary line in front of us. He kept trying and is dangerous around goal.
Morton was ok, not outstanding, kicked a couple though.
Backline, uh, well the ball was coming in quite easily, so they were under a lot of pressure. What stood out though was Gumbleton had at different stages, Polo as an opponent, Tambling and Farmer. Gumbleton is a big boy, those three aren't.
I might get abuse for this, but Hislop might be ok, took some strong grabs. Just needs to stop giving 50m penalties away.
Reckon Hislop gave away at least 3 50 Metre s.
And his kicking is an issue
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One other thing i'll mention, is the free kick count would have probably been 50 - 10 the Bombers way and we also gave away 6-7 50m penalties.
A lot of them I'm not sure what they were for, especially ones at the centre bounces.
Thing is though, the umpires don't change their decisions, so we need to stop giving them away. No point arguing with the umpires. We got some stinkers, but I don't think the umpires were that bad.
Nason had a kick at goal in the third, and looked a good kick, but just shaved the post. A guy in front of us was going off his nut saying the umpires don't know what they're on about! :lol Hitting the post has always been a point for as long as I can remember.
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Ok, here's what I thought of todays game.
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Reckon Hislop gave away at least 3 50 Metre s.
And his kicking is an issue
Yeah three 50s in the first quarter. Got one back later on.
Forgot to mention, but Vickery should turn out ok, rucked ok and took a good grab up forward.
Only problem though was he didn't want to kick the goals, he looked to hand of from the 50 one time, and 30 out also was looking to give off.
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Where we got beaten?
Well the Bombers had three on one all over the ground, If we were employing a zone, it didn't really work. We were smashed in the middle again, apart from the third quarter.
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Ok, here's what I thought of todays game.
I watched from the 50m line at the entrance gate.
The guys that have never been coached by Wallace were all ok. :lol Maybe not Farmer, he made a few blues.
Martin BOG. Poor kid is probably going to draw the number one tagger from round 1.
Nason was great early, and kept presenting all day.
Connors good apart from a couple of skill errors.
Lids I thought was quiet, but he might have been doing all his work on the opposite side of the ground.
Cotchin quiet early but worked into it.
Gourdis is worth perservering with, I thought he was handy.
Roberts exciting early.
Taylor didn't get a touch till 3rd quarter I reckon, but looks silky.
Jackson stood out in the 3rd quarter, but just bombs the ball.
The forward line wasn't clicking in the first half.
Riewoldt kicked a ripper from the boundary line in front of us. He kept trying and is dangerous around goal.
Morton was ok, not outstanding, kicked a couple though.
Backline, uh, well the ball was coming in quite easily, so they were under a lot of pressure. What stood out though was Gumbleton had at different stages, Polo as an opponent, Tambling and Farmer. Gumbleton is a big boy, those three aren't.
I might get abuse for this, but Hislop might be ok, took some strong grabs. Just needs to stop giving 50m penalties away.
Reckon Hislop gave away at least 3 50 Metre s.
And his kicking is an issue
Hislop is a reborn Zantuck lmao a loser
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Thanks for all the reports guys, very much appreciated, hopefully we can turn it around come round one.
BTW, where are you now Popelord with everyone (other than me) that went there bagging the crap out of todays "Practice Match"..... ;D ;D ;) ;).......joking
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Thanks for all the reports guys, very much appreciated, hopefully we can turn it around come round one.
BTW, where are you now Popelord with everyone (other than me) that went there bagging the crap out of todays "Practice Match"..... ;D ;D ;) ;).......joking
is that the bloke who dreams alot but they never come true ;D
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From the Bombers forum. Did we really kick it OOTF stacks of times from kick-ins? :P
We (Essendon) did very well out of the umpires, and Richmond's kicking. They must have kicked it OOF about 8 times.
Richmond was disgracefully undisciplined. We got frees, fifties and down-the-grounds from stupid late contacts.
Cousins and Reiwoldt are the only way Richmond will win games/be watchable (unless Melbourne continue with their bout of Quinnitis). The number of times they kicked out of bounds from kick-outs was embarrassing, even by their standards.
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true it was Embarrassing
how us supporters feel when other club supporters write this stuff
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From the Bombers forum. Did we really kick it OOTF stacks of times from kick-ins? :P
We (Essendon) did very well out of the umpires, and Richmond's kicking. They must have kicked it OOF about 8 times.
Richmond was disgracefully undisciplined. We got frees, fifties and down-the-grounds from stupid late contacts.
Cousins and Reiwoldt are the only way Richmond will win games/be watchable (unless Melbourne continue with their bout of Quinnitis). The number of times they kicked out of bounds from kick-outs was embarrassing, even by their standards.
Would totally agree with this.
I said to someone there how undisiplined we were even in the first quarter.
the free kicks we gave away were there too.
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From the Bombers forum. Did we really kick it OOTF stacks of times from kick-ins? :P
Remember 2, but there probably was several more.
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lol about the kick ins, Id rather have newman kicking torps from the kick ins and putting the ball 80 metres out from goal to a contest rather than coughing it up with out on the fulls or just have a basic huddle strategy. Simple things- ok we will get picked of sometimes, but Id rather this than just giving up the footy for no reason.
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From the Bombers forum. Did we really kick it OOTF stacks of times from kick-ins? :P
Remember 2, but there probably was several more.
There were
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Hey Jack how was Browne??
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Hey Jack how was Browne??
Next question, at least he is better than Gus
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Hey Jack how was Browne??
Next question, at least he is better than Gus
Who didn't play Jack that you think will play round one?
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Hey Jack how was Browne??
Next question, at least he is better than Gus
Who didn't play Jack that you think will play round one?
Most will disagree, but TUCK is a must.
Thursfield didnt play either.
Cousins
Couldnt possibly play guys like White , Graham or Rance either
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Hey Jack how was Browne??
Next question, at least he is better than Gus
Who didn't play Jack that you think will play round one?
Most will disagree, but TUCK is a must.
Thursfield didnt play either.
Cousins
Couldnt possibly play guys like White , Graham or Rance either
Tuck I agree, not sure, must have pictures of Hardwick with a goat, well we can only live in hope.
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Tuck played okay against the pies, didnt play today
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Tuck played okay against the pies, didnt play today
Thanks Jack, what about Polo, Edwards, Collins or is Collins injured, thanks mate.
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Tuck I agree, not sure, must have pictures of Hardwick with a goat
Why do you say that?
Crikey he's not considered that good by very many otherwise he'd be elsewhere this season.
Tuck is a typical old Tiger. Half full.
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Tuck I agree, not sure, must have pictures of Hardwick with a goat
Why do you say that?
Crikey he's not considered that good by very many otherwise he'd be elsewhere this season.
Tuck is a typical old Tiger. Half full.
Well, you havent seen the rest of the rubbish on the list :banghead
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afl.com said that Foley had a soild match? did he play?
Newman, another who was mentioned as a soild contributor? is this true?
heard Deledio's kicking was bad?
Tambling? nothing from him?
Polak? did he play?
personally, not happy about the loss.
i am concerned about other teams kicking 5+ goals a quarter against us!
last season, we gave away the most 5+ goals per quarter.
Cotchin? was he there?
:)
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We should play lock down 1 on 1 man on man footy right from the start against Carlton. Run some hard tags on Gibbs and Murphy with Jackson and Farmer probably getting jobs. Simmonds at FF to provide a target forward line of Riewoldt Morton Nahas and Roberts who seems to be able to kick some goals. Thats for starters!
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We should play lock down 1 on 1 man on man footy right from the start against Carlton. Run some hard tags on Gibbs and Murphy with Jackson and Farmer probably getting jobs. Simmonds at FF to provide a target forward line of Riewoldt Morton Nahas and Roberts who seems to be able to kick some goals. Thats for starters!
Agree
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Well, you havent seen the rest of the rubbish on the list :banghead
Yeah well obviously I don't rate him as much as you do Jackie.
I'd rather be giving opportunities to younger faces who may be able to be moulded into a player of the future than Shane Tuck.
Who:
a) Is an very ordinary kick.
b) Is very poor defensively.
c) Is ingrained with bad habits.
d) Has difficulty following instruction/gameplans.
e) Has a general lack of respect by the opposition.
Tuck has a strong body and is good at getting the ball (that's his strength no doubt) but he's also good at giving it up to the opposition and letting his opponent run amok. Offensively he does not hurt his opponent & has been an integral part of a Richmond midfield that's been regularly flogged by it's opposition for years now.
Even if it takes time and short term pain, we need to do better than Tucky and I expect the 'transition' phase will see Shane phased out.
He might get the odd game until the likes of Foley & Cousins return but I don't expect him to play much. Nor do I want him to.
Sure he'll likely get beat hard but I'd rather see young Pat Contin being promoted to the senior list and being given a chance to gain experience over the course of what's no doubt going to be a tough year, than continue to play a member of the old guard who's ultimately been found short of the level.
My take FWIW.
Be interesting to see what Hardwick does with Shane in 2010.
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RT and Tigerbob have a couple of detailed match reports on BF:
Starting lineup (from memory):
B: Farmer Gourdis Newman
HB: Moore McGuane Edwards
C: Tambling Jackson Cotchin
HF: Nason Riewoldt Hislop
F: Nahas Vickery Morton
R: Simmonds Deledio Martin
Bench: Browne Connors Roberts Taylor Polo Thomson
RT's report:
http://bigfooty.com/forum/showpost.php?p=17105858&postcount=1
Tigerbob's report:
http://bigfooty.com/forum/showpost.php?p=17107762&postcount=30
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Players don't put there head over the ball.
Don't people think Maxwell was out of line for saying something similar to this after the Collingwood game? :P :whistle
The bloke on SEN said that it was poor skills, particulary from the senior players that hurt us. He named Tambling and Deledio as culprits for getting a lot of the ball and not using their opportunities.
Was that a fair/accutate call?
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I thought the first quarter was OK - we played terrible (couldn't hit the side of the barn with some of our kicks) but remained in the game because they at leasd tried to fight it out
2nd quarter was terrible, woeful and anything else you care to throw in
3rd quarter was very good - that has to be norm not the exception, against really good side it probably still wont be enough but it gives you hope. Against weaker teams (those on par with us ;D) it will win you a few games
4th quarter was simply diabolical .....
Our lack of leadership when things turn to pooh was on display for all to see yesterday (with the exception of Lids).... that for me at least is a massive problem... has been for yonks and continues to be
I did this :lol :lol :lol :rollin when I read one of the media reviews that said "Newman & Jackson were solid contributors"
FWIW wayne lids played mainly on the grandstand side of the ground and I didn't think Martin was that good; solid yes but in my best no.
Unfortunately his disposal at times really let him down, missed the first option a few times and tried to do too much ....
But more later I'm heading out for a while ;D
The bloke on SEN said that it was poor skills, particulary from the senior players that hurt us. He named Tambling and Deledio as culprits for getting a lot of the ball and not using their opportunities.
Was that a fair/accutate call?
In Tambling's case most definitely - thought Richie's kicking was ordinary yesterday. Lids - no; I thought on the whole he was good, yes he missed some targets and bombed it long into the F50 a few times but I didn't think his disposal was the worst yesterday
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re the BF match report
a middle of the road team had kicked 15-16 goals by 3 quarter time(not even incl the diabolical last quarter) - yep defensive pressure has gone up ten fold ;D
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Another question for those that have seen a number of these games.
Putting aside your pre-conceptions about Polak, does the forward line structure better with him there or without him, or no real difference?
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Just got home from game.
:banghead
Can't wait for your report JS.... :lol
Whats the point, ::)
Tell you what I think but you will disagree anyway
Jack seriously here tell me what you think of McGuane
What about in the first quarter when he knocked the ball down straight down to an Essendon player instead of killing the ball, WTF.
Actually saw that quite well Jack and to the most part i agree with what you are saying but he also did get a fairly good shove as he was about to punch the ball and he had his body twisted on a weird angle, i was willing to give him the benefit of the doubt on that one.
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TODAY, was the last ""tune up"" for round 1
I watched last years "tune up" game when we whacked Brisbane at Carrara, leading me to declare that Brisbane were no good and could not possibly make the 8. A fortnight is a long time in football, especially that fortnight between the practice matches and the season proper.
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lol about the kick ins, Id rather have newman kicking torps from the kick ins and putting the ball 80 metres out from goal to a contest rather than coughing it up with out on the fulls or just have a basic huddle strategy. Simple things- ok we will get picked of sometimes, but Id rather this than just giving up the footy for no reason.
Morwell East Football Club player Fingers lol won the half time kicking contest.
he pumped the ball kicking out of goal hitting the centre with every kick
thats a average over 70 metres every kick by a bloke who does not even train much lol.
A bloke who kicks better than AFL players from the goal square yet professional league players cant get it right how pathetic
Thats why l refuse to pay for memberships to watch players who should not be out there at AFL level when l can see players like him kick bombs & bags of goals weekly at a good bar price
Fingers would put Newman to shame in a kicking contest ;D
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Just got home from game.
:banghead
Can't wait for your report JS.... :lol
Whats the point, ::)
Tell you what I think but you will disagree anyway
Jack seriously here tell me what you think of McGuane
What about in the first quarter when he knocked the ball down straight down to an Essendon player instead of killing the ball, WTF.
Actually saw that quite well Jack and to the most part i agree with what you are saying but he also did get a fairly good shove as he was about to punch the ball and he had his body twisted on a weird angle, i was willing to give him the benefit of the doubt on that one.
No excuse for poor defending. the option is to kill the ball or force the ball deep into pockets.
3 times in the same quarter l seen McGuane have & mental breakdown on footy basic's. He gave away goals which he created himself
He would never play league footy again under me until he put more thought into his game.
There is no questions be it his under preasure or whatever. Its professional football & he should be mentally drilled to make the correct decision.
He should be at his elite now his apprenticeship is over. no more excuses for this player plz
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Players don't put there head over the ball.
Don't people think Maxwell was out of line for saying something similar to this after the Collingwood game? :P :whistle
The bloke on SEN said that it was poor skills, particulary from the senior players that hurt us. He named Tambling and Deledio as culprits for getting a lot of the ball and not using their opportunities.
Was that a fair/accutate call?
Nah, half the players didnt put there head over the ball
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I thought the first quarter was OK - we played terrible (couldn't hit the side of the barn with some of our kicks) but remained in the game because they at leasd tried to fight it out
2nd quarter was terrible, woeful and anything else you care to throw in
3rd quarter was very good - that has to be norm not the exception, against really good side it probably still wont be enough but it gives you hope. Against weaker teams (those on par with us ;D) it will win you a few games
4th quarter was simply diabolical .....
Our lack of leadership when things turn to pooh was on display for all to see yesterday (with the exception of Lids).... that for me at least is a massive problem... has been for yonks and continues to be
I did this :lol :lol :lol :rollin when I read one of the media reviews that said "Newman & Jackson were solid contributors"
FWIW wayne lids played mainly on the grandstand side of the ground and I didn't think Martin was that good; solid yes but in my best no.
Unfortunately his disposal at times really let him down, missed the first option a few times and tried to do too much ....
But more later I'm heading out for a while ;D
The bloke on SEN said that it was poor skills, particulary from the senior players that hurt us. He named Tambling and Deledio as culprits for getting a lot of the ball and not using their opportunities.
Was that a fair/accutate call?
In Tambling's case most definitely - thought Richie's kicking was ordinary yesterday. Lids - no; I thought on the whole he was good, yes he missed some targets and bombed it long into the F50 a few times but I didn't think his disposal was the worst yesterday
Thanks for the report WP, BTW who do you think is on "par with us" because I actually think we are on our own island at the moment. Another point, I wanted Lids as our Captain and Cotch as Vice this year but everyone bagged me , don't you think he would have been the better option yesterday and for the future?
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We should play lock down 1 on 1 man on man footy right from the start against Carlton. Run some hard tags on Gibbs and Murphy with Jackson and Farmer probably getting jobs. Simmonds at FF to provide a target forward line of Riewoldt Morton Nahas and Roberts who seems to be able to kick some goals. Thats for starters!
Totally agree but I am afraid it won't happen, like I said earlier they are sticking with the new game plan and the players that can't adapt will be moved on and replaced with players that can. So come round one unless their skills improve dramatically we will get done like a dinner, and our skill level and turnovers have ALWAYS killed us. People can blame Frawley and Wallace all they like but in the end it has been the players! They just don't have the skills to follow any game plan at the moment and most of them never will. Sorry for the doom and gloom post but it's time to realise we just aren't there and won't be for a long long long time.
I watched the game last night and the Bulldogs level of skill is...... well..... they will kill us by about 100 points +, thier foot passing is amazing. But thats my opinion about where we are at regardless of yesterdays result.
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Tuck I agree, not sure, must have pictures of Hardwick with a goat
Why do you say that?
Crikey he's not considered that good by very many otherwise he'd be elsewhere this season.
Tuck is a typical old Tiger. Half full.
Is he really, wasn't he our best last year for clearances?? How many half full glasses were out there yesterday?? At least he has a go, might not be the future but he evens up our side IMO. While he may "not be considered that good by very many" I am afraid we need him at the moment otherwise players like Martin, Cotch and Lids will have to go it alone and that may affect them playing their natural game for the future.
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Tuck I agree, not sure, must have pictures of Hardwick with a goat
Why do you say that?
Crikey he's not considered that good by very many otherwise he'd be elsewhere this season.
Tuck is a typical old Tiger. Half full.
Is he really, wasn't he our best last year for clearances?? How many half full glasses were out there yesterday?? At least he has a go, might not be the future but he evens up our side IMO. While he may "not be considered that good by very many" I am afraid we need him at the moment otherwise players like Martin, Cotch and Lids will have to go it alone and that may affect them playing their natural game for the future.
Very simple, I would play Tuck before Thompson
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Tuck is a solid body I agree but let the kids play in the midfield and learn their trade. With Tuck in the middle or not we will still get flogged anyway so putting another kid in the midfield to replace Tuck will only be beneficial because at the least we will find out who can play at this level and who can't. Tuck will be one in the firing line to be delisted at the end of the year so let's see if he is more than a one trick pony.
Furthermore Tuck can compete and maybe his bigger body can be used in the forward line where his competitiveness can be used to hold a ball in as well as ensuring balls come to the ground to give Morton Nahas Edwards a chance to crumb some goals. At least with his suspect skills if does give away the ball its up forward where it will still give us a chance to set up and repel rather than be horribly exposed as we run forward giving the ball away. Despite this misgivings with his skills he is a fairly accurate shot for goal. He is 28ish so he won't be in the next flag so a pinch hitting talisman type of role of a half forward stuff may help the side and himself prolong his career by an extra year or so at best if it works out.
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Tuck is a solid body I agree but let the kids play in the midfield and learn their trade. With Tuck in the middle or not we will still get flogged anyway so putting another kid in the midfield to replace Tuck will only be beneficial because at the least we will find out who can play at this level and who can't. Tuck will be one in the firing line to be delisted at the end of the year so let's see if he is more than a one trick pony.
Furthermore Tuck can compete and maybe his bigger body can be used in the forward line where his competitiveness can be used to hold a ball in as well as ensuring balls come to the ground to give Morton Nahas Edwards a chance to crumb some goals. At least with his suspect skills if does give away the ball its up forward where it will still give us a chance to set up and repel rather than be horribly exposed as we run forward giving the ball away. Despite this misgivings with his skills he is a fairly accurate shot for goal. He is 28ish so he won't be in the next flag so a pinch hitting talisman type of role of a half forward stuff may help the side and himself prolong his career by an extra year or so at best if it works out.
When I suggested Vickery play No.1 ruck I was shot down because apparently he is too young and small bodied and he would be bashed to a pulp but you say play the kids in the centre to "learn their trade". Agree with the rest of you post post though because you then went on to say Tuck would benificial in the centre so..... ???
Anywho, not sure what you mean with Edwards crumbing for goal, he has been in the backline for most if not all of the pre season. Also I really don't rate Edwards, never have and to this point in time he has not proved me wrong..... Polo is the same IMO. ;D
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Our lack of leadership when things turn to pooh was on display for all to see yesterday (with the exception of Lids).... that for me at least is a massive problem... has been for yonks and continues to be
I must apologise to Simmo as I forgot he is back inthe leadership group :P
I thought he was good yesterday - had some strange calls go against him the ruck. Compared to this time last year he is moving really well and he is a our number one ruckman by a long long way. I think Vickery is a much better ruckman when Simmo is in the team showing him the way :thumbsup
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2011
this yr is doomed already
all we wanted is a team that showd something
we show nothing
we are a joke and always will be
3 0 75k
wont happen , we will not be around and be kicked out of the afl
:rollin :rollin
The Tigers will always be around because of people like you and me X who despite everything that happens stick with them for reasons that clearly defy logic and sanity. Sure we get ticked off beyond belief but we stick .... why ... because as you said somewhere in this thread we care.... see defies logic and sanity
Remember that :thumbsup
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Well here's how i thought they went.... remember MHO only ;D
3. Brett Deledio - best Tiger on the day by a long way. Showed great leadership and determination to get the ball. Continues to improve in 2nd & 3rd effort area (2nd & 3rd efforts are a must in my book). Granted his disposal a couple of times was poor especially hte long bombs into the F50 but at least he was trying to make the play
5. Troy Simmonds - liked his game. Moving very very well compared to last year. Copped a couple of cheap nasty shots by some bombers players which really fired him up ;D
8. Jack Riewoldt - attacked the contest hard but struggled the first half. Was much better in the 3rd and was hardly sighted in the 4th. I sometimes think he needs to lead more directly = up the middle. Seems to lead too wide on the flanks
9. Trent Cotchin - not Cotch's best day. Disposal was average but the good news he has got through the pre-seaosn and is right to go for the season proper
10. Shane Edwards - most noticeable thing about young Shane yesterday was the cropped hair... quiet
14. Dean Polo - late call up for Benny Cousins. Played all his game time across HB. Took a couple of good contested marks and won some good contested footy and overall his disposal was good. Why he was matched up on Gumbleton? In a word "strange" ;D
15. Mitch Farmer- I like this kid. Granted his disposal at times yesterday was average (he wasn't alone there) I wish more of our blokes had his determination to win the contest. I've seen 3 out of 4 of these pre-season games and he has been very consistent. Has to play round 1
16. Luke McGuane - what was he thinking when defending on the goal line he punched the ball back into play 10-15 metres straight to an un-marked Bombers player.... :banghead He was frustrated, we were frustrated...
17. Chris Newman - the reviews said solid - I disagree. I was disappointed as I hardly noticed him especially when things went to pooh in the 2nd. Leadership isn't just about calling the boys into a huddle before going off at half time...
19. Daniel Connors - started well but his disposal let him down as the game went on. And I still have concerns with his defensive efforts - he needs to chase harder.. actually at this point I'd just like to see him chase
20. Mitch Morton - did he play? Seriously, hardly noticed Mitch at all.
23. Daniel Jackson - did a couple of nice things but overall I was very disappointed with Jacko's game. He spent most of the day as Jobe Watson's tag. Now Jobe aint fast, where as Jacko is very quick, I was staggered at the number of times Jacko didn't try when the opportunity presented itself to try and exploit Jobe's lack of pace by trying to run off him. Also, his decdion making was poor yesterday, didn't take the first option often enough which meant a lot of his kicks were just kicks in hope
26. Robin Nahas - Jack summed it up beautifully - Nahas shouldn't play outside the F50.
27. Tom Hislop - it is a real pity Tommy cannot kick. He can get the thing but his disposal is... :banghead :banghead :banghead .... er.... frustrating
29. Tyrone Vickery - Improving, showed a bit as a forward, took a couple of really strong contested grabs. He seems much more confident as ruckman when he is partnering Simmo
30. Richard Tambling - Richie got it but his disposal was overall average. I thought he was alot better in the final qtr. But I do like seeing him and Lids sweeping off the wings at the centre square ball ups
31. Adam Thomson - started well in the first but hardly sighted after that. Disappointing....next
33. David Gourdis - was without doubt the best game I've seen Goo play and I have seen him alot over the last 3 years. Put his body on the line many times and won a number of contests against the Bomber tall forwards (especially against Hille). Disposal is still "heart in the mouth stuff" but overall it wasn't too bad. Was our best tall down back yesterday by along way.
34. Andrew Browne - not a great day for the kid and we should not lose sight of the fact he is only a kid in his 2nd season. Really should have kicked a goal in the final qtr
36. Dustin Martin - solid/good. But I thought he let himslef down with some of his decision making and disposal. I just thought there were times he should have gone the first option instead of taking the opposition on. But having said that he ready to go and I still reckon he will be an absolute gun
40. Kel Moore - disappointing ...next
44. Troy Taylor - didn't seem "switched on" in the first half. No doubting his ability and skill but I don't think he deserve to play round 1. Defensively he needs to work a lot harder
47. Ben Nason - surprise packet of the pre-season for me. Just love the way he goes about it in 2 simple steps 1/ getting the ball = will fight tooth and nail to win the ball and 2/ his disposal = reliable by foot or by hand. Deserves to debut in round 1 IMHO
50. Relton Roberts - a close 2nd in the surprise packet stakes for me. Silky skills and raw natural ability. Like Nason deserves to play round 1
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Just got home from game.
:banghead
Can't wait for your report JS.... :lol
Whats the point, ::)
Tell you what I think but you will disagree anyway
Jack seriously here tell me what you think of McGuane
What about in the first quarter when he knocked the ball down straight down to an Essendon player instead of killing the ball, WTF.
Actually saw that quite well Jack and to the most part i agree with what you are saying but he also did get a fairly good shove as he was about to punch the ball and he had his body twisted on a weird angle, i was willing to give him the benefit of the doubt on that one.
No excuse for poor defending. the option is to kill the ball or force the ball deep into pockets.
3 times in the same quarter l seen McGuane have & mental breakdown on footy basic's. He gave away goals which he created himself
He would never play league footy again under me until he put more thought into his game.
There is no questions be it his under preasure or whatever. Its professional football & he should be mentally drilled to make the correct decision.
He should be at his elite now his apprenticeship is over. no more excuses for this player plz
Hold on Monk, i said i agree with most of the post. on ONE occasion i was willing to give him the benefit of the doubt, due to quite a shove "in his back" from an Bummers player.
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Great report WP. Thanks.
Is he really
Yes very.
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Another question for those that have seen a number of these games.
Putting aside your pre-conceptions about Polak, does the forward line structure better with him there or without him, or no real difference?
Interesting question al.
I've seen 3 out of the 4 games. The only 1 I didn't see was the game against the Pies
In tassie I don't think the forward line worked too well at all (Polly played). In tassie Polly & Jack seemed to be leading to the same area or alternatively, Polly stayed in the goal square for the long bomb but our crumbers weren't smart enough to get back and actually crumb
In Yea the forward line set up with Polak worked because he was able to take Scarlett out of the game, which allowed Jack to have the next best defender rather than the best defender. granted on the stats sheet it will show that Polly dind't kcik many or have many kicks but I reckon on that day that wasn't his role
Yesterday the set ups appeared to be OK but Jack spent too much time leading to the boundary line and Mitch seemed to staying back in the square more but wasn't marking the thing.... One of the problems we had yesterday was we didn't work hard enough to keep the ballin F50 - Bombers cleared it far too easily at times
At the moment I just think our forward line is a massive WIP as they try to work out the right balance. For round 1 I'd go with Polly simply because he is a bigger body and the Carlton backline isn't full of gorillas and Polly does bring the ball to ground in a contest
that's just my take
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23. Daniel Jackson - did a couple of nice things but overall I was very disappointed with Jacko's game. He spent most of the day as Jobe Watson's tag. Now Jobe aint fast, where as Jacko is very quick, I was staggered at the number of times Jacko didn't try when the opportunity presented itself to try and exploit Jobe's lack of pace by trying to run off him. Also, his decdion making was poor yesterday, didn't take the first option often enough which meant a lot of his kicks were just kicks in hope
The way i saw it yesterday WP. What i have highlighted pretty much sums it up for most of the team. We were only to happy to make the late contest and hand out a free kick but to put in that extra 2% effort to try and get there on time and spoil the mark just seemed beyond most of our players and forget the gut running to chase to opposition, that was almost non existant. That ranged from our esteemed captain down to first year players (one RR) on different occasions.
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2011
this yr is doomed already
all we wanted is a team that showd something
we show nothing
we are a joke and always will be
3 0 75k
wont happen , we will not be around and be kicked out of the afl
:rollin :rollin
The Tigers will always be around because of people like you and me X who despite everything that happens stick with them for reasons that clearly defy logic and sanity. Sure we get ticked off beyond belief but we stick .... why ... because as you said somewhere in this thread we care.... see defies logic and sanity
Remember that :thumbsup
so true wp
so true
but all we wanna see is them have a dip and improve
lets hope hardwick was foxing and the real game plan and spririt comes out in rnd 1
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Cheers for that WP.
Interesting what you say about the long bombs to Polly while jack leads, at Tassie. I get the impression Roberts would quickly work that one out.
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WP, you summary is spot on :thumbsup we were obviously at the same game, :shh
Interesting thing with Dean Polo.
I did the long fun run this at bumped into Dean about to do the short fun .
Fair effort after a game of footy, considering he had training afterwards today at 11.00
Also watching Simmo yesterday will mean the end for Gus Graham :pray. Even before the season starts we already have players earmarked to be moved on at years end.
I am also really concerned about Thompson. Needs to win a bit more of his "'own ball"".and not just run along side the opposition when they have are about to gain possesion.
Really disappointed with Kel Moore.
McGaune wasnt flash either, although had serious injury some 3 weeks ago
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Also watching Simmo yesterday will mean the end for Gus Graham :pray. Even before the season starts we already have players earmarked to be moved on at years end.
Gus may well be cut but Simmo will also be going. Where will that leave us?
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great summary wp, much obliged, interesting with hislop, thommo and Kingy, they all exhibit great tenacity however only one should be played and in my mind it's kingy...is cleaner with his handlign of the pill, is quick and Im hoping that playing in a role closer to goal /Mid may cover off the brain fades on the last line of defence....with kingy likely to be unavaialble then none...play Nason or Roberts or both
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King never played yesterday.'
Like Nason alot :thumbsup
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King never played yesterday.'
Like Nason alot :thumbsup
what posi is he likely to play jack, does he win own footy, could he play in pivot? and where did RR play?
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King never played yesterday.'
Like Nason alot :thumbsup
what posi is he likely to play jack, does he win own footy, could he play in pivot? and where did RR play?
RR played inside F 50.
Nason in between F50 and D 50.
Can win his own ball, which is alot more than I can say about some of his teammates
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WP, you summary is spot on :thumbsup we were obviously at the same game, :shh
Interesting thing with Dean Polo.
I did the long fun run this at bumped into Dean about to do the short fun .
Fair effort after a game of footy, considering he had training afterwards today at 11.00
Also watching Simmo yesterday will mean the end for Gus Graham :pray. Even before the season starts we already have players earmarked to be moved on at years end.
I am also really concerned about Thompson. Needs to win a bit more of his "'own ball"".and not just run along side the opposition when they have are about to gain possesion.
Really disappointed with Kel Moore.
McGaune wasnt flash either, although had serious injury some 3 weeks ago
How hard was the kick in the nuts? :o
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WP, you summary is spot on :thumbsup we were obviously at the same game, :shh
Interesting thing with Dean Polo.
I did the long fun run this at bumped into Dean about to do the short fun .
Fair effort after a game of footy, considering he had training afterwards today at 11.00
Also watching Simmo yesterday will mean the end for Gus Graham :pray. Even before the season starts we already have players earmarked to be moved on at years end.
I am also really concerned about Thompson. Needs to win a bit more of his "'own ball"".and not just run along side the opposition when they have are about to gain possesion.
Really disappointed with Kel Moore.
McGaune wasnt flash either, although had serious injury some 3 weeks ago
How hard was the kick in the nuts? :o
Hard enough to put him in hospital, am surprised he has played the last 2 weeks
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A thing that i've remembered about the game is the switching of play.
The Bombers would switch quickly in the D50 and then kick back into the centre of the ground.
We would switch quickly, but then get help up on the D50 line, and the only guys providing an option down the wing were Nason and Roberts.
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I was following this game via the RFC blog, and aside from the fact that the Bummers seemed to consistently score 2-3 more heavily than us throughout the day ??? (and even more towards the end) it was hard to gauge exactly how it all unfolded.
The question I'd like to direct to anybody who actually went is: What happened in that third quarter, when we seemed to have all the momentum?
'Coz at one point we seemed to be on the verge of really fighting back to the point that we might overhaul them. I think we'd kicked 6 to 3 for the qtr at that stage. A post came up that our midfield was on top, then it went quiet for a while. Then our scoring just dried up completely from that point. What happened???
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Keep in mind we were 7 goals down at half time.
Essendon took there foot off the peedle for about 8-10 minutes.
Nothing quarter when you cant kick a goal in the next quarter..
Rotations on there behalf resulted in us getting a run on
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I thought and I said this at the time it had a bit to do with simply playing man on man footy in the 3rd
In the 2nd in particular the Bombers had alot of blokes free with no opponent. That didn't thappen in the 3rd but made an ugly reappearance in the 4th
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Its not a lot to cling to but again i find some comfort in the fact that they could get a run on when permitted.
In the past once the cue went in the rack it stayed in the rack, no matter what the opposition did. Footscray in particular knew that once you got on top of richmond it was party time and you could become unaccountable because no one would hurt them for being so.
Now we have seen on a number of occasions, even when getting a belting, if the opposition drop of their intensity things will start to work. It means they are still trying to execute the game plan
I really hope footscary win their first game easily and think they only have to turn up to win against us
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Keep in mind we were 7 goals down at half time.
Essendon took there foot off the peedle for about 8-10 minutes.
Nothing quarter when you cant kick a goal in the next quarter..
Rotations on there behalf resulted in us getting a run on
Disagree about Essendon taking the foot off the peddle they were going full bore throughout the game.
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Keep in mind we were 7 goals down at half time.
Essendon took there foot off the peedle for about 8-10 minutes.
Nothing quarter when you cant kick a goal in the next quarter..
Rotations on there behalf resulted in us getting a run on
Disagree about Essendon taking the foot off the peddle they were going full bore throughout the game.
Well I dont agree, stood behind the Essendon interchange in the 3rd quarter, can tell you that Watson, Monfries ,Stanton spent more time off the ground for the quarter than on.
And guess what, they spent most of the time on the ground in the last quarter. Funny about that. ::)
My view on the game is that the scoreboard flattered the tiges,
Thought we were absolutely horrible, especially from about 10 mins in the second, thats when the rot set in.
Completely lost all structure after hanging in there in for the first quarter.
I also thought we were extremely undiscipline for most of the game.Hislop especially.
Pointless being somewhat competitive for the third quarter and getting flogged in the last.
Means the team is mentally weak when then happens.
Players cant carry out instructions when tired and under presssure.
6.2 to 0.3 in the last quarter is hardly a good sign.
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Rotations on there behalf resulted in us getting a run on
Id be taking more notice of this part 3121
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Keep in mind we were 7 goals down at half time.
Essendon took there foot off the peedle for about 8-10 minutes.
Nothing quarter when you cant kick a goal in the next quarter..
Rotations on there behalf resulted in us getting a run on
Disagree about Essendon taking the foot off the peddle they were going full bore throughout the game.
Well I dont agree, stood behind the Essendon interchange in the 3rd quarter, can tell you that Watson, Monfries ,Stanton spent more time off the ground for the quarter than on.
And guess what, they spent most of the time on the ground in the last quarter. Funny about that. ::)
My view on the game is that the scoreboard flattered the tiges,
Thought we were absolutely horrible, especially from about 10 mins in the second, thats when the rot set in.
Completely lost all structure after hanging in there in for the first quarter.
I also thought we were extremely undiscipline for most of the game.Hislop especially.
Pointless being somewhat competitive for the third quarter and getting flogged in the last.
Means the team is mentally weak when then happens.
Players cant carry out instructions when tired and under presssure.
6.2 to 0.3 in the last quarter is hardly a good sign.
So you don't see being able to stand up and show some sort of fight, even if only briefly is not an improvement on not even being able to stand up and show any sort of fight, no matter how much disrespect the opposition are treating you with?
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6.2 to 0.3 in the last quarter is hardly a good sign.
that's to go with the 0.13 collingwood kicked in last weeks final quarter, that could've been mega ugly
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Means the team is mentally weak when then happens.
Players cant carry out instructions when tired and under presssure.
6.2 to 0.3 in the last quarter is hardly a good sign.
From the first bounce Jack the pressure was on against our mid-field and our defence was inunandated. Comes down to experience at the end and better list of talls that cut us up. We were no match for Fletcher, Pears, Ryder, Hille, Gumby and I'll throw in Neagle. You have to admit Hardwick was outcoached with a brilliant move of having Ryder on Moore who forced way out onto the wing leaving us with Gourdis & McGuane to battle it out with there talls, it also doesn't help when you have Connors making errors, Edwards playing a poor game, basically we were outclassed. We also struggled to get the ball out of defence being locked in most of the times struggling to find a lose man, we were also forced to switch the ball to open up the play to no avail being quickly manned up. We were outclassed by experience and height.
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6.2 to 0.3 in the last quarter is hardly a good sign.
that's to go with the 0.13 collingwood kicked in last weeks final quarter, that could've been mega ugly
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we r foxing
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we r foxing
No unfortunately we were not.
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we r foxing
Going to be a lot of egg on face if we come out and beat Carlton.
Bloody hell I hope we do.
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What's really funny is that X has been talking us down all summer and WAT has been talking us up. Bit of jumper swapping going on? ;D
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What's really funny is that X has been talking us down all summer and WAT has been talking us up. Bit of jumper swapping going on? ;D
LOL, I just don't know which way to go now, with Cuz possibly out...... gee who knows and with Jack saying all our players are too small and short.... Carlton have some talls including Waite coming back. I won't talk myself out of it now though.... If we win it will have everything to do with our skill level.
GO TIGES.. :thumbsup
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What's really funny is that X has been talking us down all summer and WAT has been talking us up. Bit of jumper swapping going on? ;D
LOL, I just don't know which way to go now, with Cuz possibly out...... gee who knows and with Jack saying all our players are too small and short.... Carlton have some talls including Waite coming back. I won't talk myself out of it now though.... If we win it will have everything to do with our skill level.
GO TIGES.. :thumbsup
Will say this, Carlton will struggle, although they are playing us.
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What really disappointed me the most about this match, was the margin which Essendon, who I consider to be a bottom 4-6 side, were able to defeat us by.
Now I know that some will argue that they finished 8th last year, but I think this was a lucky result, which flattered them hugely.
After all, they got there with 11.5 wins, when 12 wins for us in 2008 consigned us,yet again, to ninth spot.The 100-odd point belting the Crows dished out to them in the Elim Final underlined this.
Like us, Essendon seem to be a club in re-building mode after Sheedy's inglorious departure, and our record against them in the last few years has been very good. This suggested to me that we were on a par with them, and may even have had our noses slightly in front. (Our record was 1-1 last year, and we won our last encounter.)
Can they possibly have taken such a quantum leap over us in their development so quickly? Or am I reading too much into a practice match result? I look forward to people's thoughts.
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Or am I reading too much into a practice match result?
Way too much.
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I think you are underestimating Essendon too, RR. If they can keep some big men on the park they will probably win more games than last year.
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On the two responses:
Smokey - doesn't it concern you that both teams were close to full strength, and yet they more or less dominated us all day? I can think of a few inclusions that might have improved us (Cousins, Foley, Post) but not that many. We were certainly a lot stronger side than the one who faced Collingwood.Do you think we were holding back,and will transform once the real stuff starts?
Al: You say that I underestimated Essendon. If so, then how have they managed to go past us so thoroughly, and so quickly? After all, for the last 3-4 years they have been one of the few sides that we've been on a par with, and perhaps even slightly better than.
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I think you are underestimating Essendon too, RR. If they can keep some big men on the park they will probably win more games than last year.
There is still Hurley to come into that forward line.
He'll probably replace Neagle, who I don't rate.
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On the two responses:
Smokey - doesn't it concern you that both teams were close to full strength, and yet they more or less dominated us all day? I can think of a few inclusions that might have improved us (Cousins, Foley, Post) but not that many. We were certainly a lot stronger side than the one who faced Collingwood.Do you think we were holding back,and will transform once the real stuff starts?
Al: You say that I underestimated Essendon. If so, then how have they managed to go past us so thoroughly, and so quickly? After all, for the last 3-4 years they have been one of the few sides that we've been on a par with, and perhaps even slightly better than.
I dont know if id agree with being on par with them. We have beaten them a few times, but overall I'd say they have performed a bit better than us.
The have shown improvement over the last two years even with barely a big man available for much of last year.
Crystal ball gazing can make you look silly, but I expect essndon to continue to improve, particualy if they have a fair run with injury.
In terms of going past us in develoment, when knights took over he was the fresh start, new style of play, new roles for some players etc etc.
At that same time we were supposed to be on the cusp, three years into a master coaches grand plan yada yada yada.
So now we are the fresh start, two years and weaker base behind.
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On the two responses:
Smokey - doesn't it concern you that both teams were close to full strength, and yet they more or less dominated us all day? I can think of a few inclusions that might have improved us (Cousins, Foley, Post) but not that many. We were certainly a lot stronger side than the one who faced Collingwood.Do you think we were holding back,and will transform once the real stuff starts?
Not really RR. I'm not overly concerned as I just don't rate NAB Cup/practice matches for anything else except seeing what things the younger players can bring to the table. I've seen too much practice match 'form' over my years to pay any real attention to it - it just rarely stacks up when the real thing gets going. There are so many factors that alter the dynamics of those games that reality is always the first casualty. We might play terribly next Thursday night and look like rabble but until then I just have no expectations or fears based on what has been trotted out in the past month.
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I dont know if id agree with being on par with them. We have beaten them a few times, but overall I'd say they have performed a bit better than us.
The have shown improvement over the last two years even with barely a big man available for much of last year.
Crystal ball gazing can make you look silly, but I expect essndon to continue to improve, particualy if they have a fair run with injury.
In terms of going past us in develoment, when knights took over he was the fresh start, new style of play, new roles for some players etc etc.
At that same time we were supposed to be on the cusp, three years into a master coaches grand plan yada yada yada.
So now we are the fresh start, two years and weaker base behind.
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Fair enough. I suppose I was just a bit shocked by the ease of their win, and the size of the final margin. It looks like all the prognoses are true, that we Tiger fans are going to have to keep our heads down and our expectations low this year.
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We might play terribly next Thursday night and look like rabble but until then I just have no expectations or fears based on what has been trotted out in the past month.
I really hope not. I want to beat Carlton so bad, it hurts. Incidentally, do you know the cheeky sods have put their "Do they know what we're cooking?" membership posters up all over Richmond? There's a huge one on the far side of Victoria St (Yeah, I know,technically Abbotsford, Collingwood country.) There's one at the entrance to Victoria Gardens, and it's all covered in spittle :lol. So somebody obviously had the same thought as me. In your wildest dreams, could you imagine us getting away with putting up our membership posters in Lygon Street? >:(
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I dont know if id agree with being on par with them. We have beaten them a few times, but overall I'd say they have performed a bit better than us.
The have shown improvement over the last two years even with barely a big man available for much of last year.
Crystal ball gazing can make you look silly, but I expect essndon to continue to improve, particualy if they have a fair run with injury.
In terms of going past us in develoment, when knights took over he was the fresh start, new style of play, new roles for some players etc etc.
At that same time we were supposed to be on the cusp, three years into a master coaches grand plan yada yada yada.
So now we are the fresh start, two years and weaker base behind.
Fair enough. I suppose I was just a bit shocked by the ease of their win, and the size of the final margin. It looks like all the prognoses are true, that we Tiger fans are going to have to keep our heads down and our expectations low this year.
I think a lot of us were, RR. Given our good record against them in recent times many would have expected a better showing and perhaps even a win.
I suppose it shows that history means JS once they run onto the park.
Yeah, keeping expectations low this year is a must, or you'll just bring yourself a big load of hurt.
On the flip side, we could snatch the odd unexpected win, particularly if the enemy think it will just happen for them on the day. Then we can :gotigers :cheers :birthday :cheers
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From Champion Data's Fantasy Freako email......
Martin had 34 possies :clapping and Nason 16 against Essendon.
Martin has averaged 92 points over his 3 preseason games. He's the highest Tiger in total aggregate with 276 points.
Next best is Lids with 242. Just 5 other Tigers have cracked the 200 - Jackson, Connors, Tambling and Riewoldt from 3 games each and Morton from 4 matches.
Dreamteam points
Martin 110
Jackson 79
Nason 78
Hislop 76
Newman 73
Connors 62
Deledio 62
Tambling 61
Cotchin 54
Riewoldt 52
Edwards 49
Gourdis 49
Polo 49
Nahas 48
Vickery 47
Morton 43
Simmonds 42
Roberts 40
Moore 35
McGuane 34
Thomson 31
Farmer 28
Taylor 19
Browne 11
10 Bombers scored 80 points or more to our 1 :P.
Just 3 Bombers scored less than 60 points to our 16 :P.
Stanton scored 173 just by himself. He had 41 disposals and 12 marks :o
Going by the stats we simply just didn't get our hands on the footy and keep hold of it.
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Well after those stats I hope the hell Cuz plays against the Blues because Martin will have the crap tagged out of him and he needs more support than he was offered in this game.
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From Champion Data's Fantasy Freako email......
Martin had 34 possies :clapping and Nason 16 against Essendon.
Martin has averaged 92 points over his 3 preseason games. He's the highest Tiger in total aggregate with 276 points.
Stanton scored 173 just by himself. He had 41 disposals and 12 marks :o
Could be wrong but wasn't Dusty matched up directly on Stanton for much of the day?
Good effort from the youngster to gather so many possessions but he's going to have to work on his defensive game a little.
Always room for improvement.
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In what way does he have to work on his defensive game?
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In what way does he have to work on his defensive game?
Well we couldn't see the game so we don't know right now but Dustin said he was matched up on Stanton for some of the game and if Stanton is getting 41 possessions you can bet you still have something to learn somewhere.
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In what way does he have to work on his defensive game?
Well we couldn't see the game so we don't know right now but Dustin said he was matched up on Stanton for some of the game and if Stanton is getting 41 possessions you can bet you still have something to learn somewhere.
A lesson in you only keep going offensively head to head playing off your opponent if you're the one causing more damage to the opposition than your opponent is doing to us. Mind you it would've helped if most his teammates could have got their mits on the footy rather than doing stuff all by the look of those stats.