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Football => Richmond Rant => Topic started by: one-eyed on November 22, 2012, 07:40:01 PM
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Welcome Kam :)
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Pick 31 ~ Kamdyn Mcintosh
Richmond
(http://www.afl.com.au/portals/0/2012/draft/mcintosh-kamdyn-2012.jpg)
Player statistics
Former club:Peel Thunder
DOB:03/04/1994
Height:192cm
Position:Defender
Weight:85kg
Player assessment
Tall defender with a very good combination of pace and endurance. Versatile defender capable of playing on medium and talls. Played four matches for WA at the NAB AFL Under 18 Championships closing down dangerous opponents and providing good run from defence. Acquitted himself well in four matches at senior level for Peel, averaging 17.5 disposals, five marks and three tackles.
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Defender hey....
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Dont know him. Wish him all the best.
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dont know why not, wish him all the best.
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Geek
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Dont know him. Wish him all the best.
Don't like his first name, never heard a Kamdyn make it in the AFL, fighting fund monies down the gurgler
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Looks an elite kick in the highlights.......I've got a good feeling about this bloke.
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Selection 31 – Kamdyn McIntosh
richmondfc.com.au
7:44 PM Thu 22 Nov, 2012
Richmond has selected versatile running half back/wingman Kamdyn McIntosh with it’s second pick (selection 31 overall) in the 2012 National Draft).
McIntosh came to prominence in 2012 with strong performances as a key defender for the WA U18 team in the 2012 Carnival.
“A strong carnival gave him great confidence on his return to WAFL football, and he quickly graduated to the league side at his club Peel Thunder,” said Richmond Recruiting Manager Francis Jackson.
“He then went to the AFL Draft Combine, displaying his super running capabilities, ranking in the 97 percentile in the endurance-based beep test with a 14.08 score, followed up with a 10min, 14sec 3km time trial, ranking in the 97th percentile.”
“Kamdyn is a great one-on-one competitor, and combined with his size and running ability, is ideally suited to modern AFL football.”
http://www.richmondfc.com.au/news/newsarticle/tabid/6301/newsid/151552/default.aspx
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Looks an elite kick in the highlights.......I've got a good feeling about the bloke.
Looks stuffing unreal
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VIDEO: Kamdyn McIntosh highlights ...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S3Tu3VWHt5w
or
http://www.richmondfc.com.au/news/newsarticle/tabid/6301/newsid/151552/default.aspx#embedvideoplayer
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At 192cm looks very versatile and early thoughts it looks a clever pick. Seems a bit more than a just a backline player to me, could be anything this one.
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he looks better than our first pick
and i bet he will be, not sold on our first pick yet
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Reckon we should have taken that #51 ruckman with the ripper mullet that shows up in some of McIntosh's highlights.
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As I said before didnt know this player at all but his highlights like all the players highlights look good. Good kick on the right, good speed, tall player and a decent size. Good luck to the lad hope he does well.
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Listening to those blokes on SEN - (got caught up visiting me ma this evening and she doesnt have fox sports) they said hes versatile and what richmond liked about him was he was top 3 at DC in endurance so they think he could also play as a tall midfielder. Looks a good pick. They also said west coast were red hot for him and spewin we got him
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They also said west coast were red hot for him and spewin we got him
That's all that matters :clapping
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Has Andrew Kellaway's kicking style
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This lad can play
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I took McIntosh in the OER phantom daft for the Doggies at pick 51 ;D
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Looks a bit like Rance in style and general play.
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Pics:
(http://mm.afl.com.au/Portals/0/images_richmond/mcintoshrichmond_246b.jpg) (http://l.yimg.com/ea/img/-/120627/250612sptkamdyn06_17ukpsh-17ukpsp.jpg)
(http://commercial.aflphotos.com.au/images/thumbs/450/2012/10/05/272037.jpg) (http://)
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Used to a Burley.
Will be no good
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tick.
look out.
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This kid has already played and performed at senior level
in 4 games
55 kicks and 15 HB for 70 disposals and 20 marks.
not too shabby for an 18 year old in his first games
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a bit of insight into the kid himself
http://au.news.yahoo.com/thewest/opinion/post/-/blog/14049966/mcintosh-juggles-footy-family/
If he's not just full of poo then he he has some good attributes.
hard working, takes responsibility, takes critisim on board, and enjoys challenges and pressure.
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http://au.news.yahoo.com/thewest/video/watch/7e746465-4911-3ef4-8dc9-7143599a69ac/talented-young-footballer-eyes-draft/thewest_sport/
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“He then went to the AFL Draft Combine, displaying his super running capabilities, ranking in the 97 percentile in the endurance-based beep test with a 14.08 score, followed up with a 10min, 14sec 3km time trial, ranking in the 97th percentile.”
Is that better than Dusty? Whats his speed like?
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Getting picked up by Richmond "Just Awesome, can't wait to get there"...brings a tear to an old tiger's eye... :'(. :
http://au.news.yahoo.com/thewest/sport/a/-/afl/15455156/tiger-strike-stuns-a-gun/
Love this kids commitment to family too :clapping
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Phantom draft profiles of McIntosh:
Pick 51:
Kamdyn McIntosh
Ht: 192cm
Wt: 78kgs
Played 4 senior games for Peel Thunder near the end of 2012. Kamdyn is a tall defender that can play on talls or smalls. Considered a good decision maker who reads the play very well that compliments his skills. Has good endurance as his 4th placing in combine 3km time trial suggest. He also finished top 10 at the combine in the Beep Test and kicking assessment. The Bulldogs need KP players and although he will need to spend alot of time in the gym to add muscle and condition we believe Kamdyn can be a good long term KP back for us over the next decade. we were actually surprsied he survived until the 3rd round
http://oneeyed-richmond.com/forum/index.php?topic=16888.msg340297#msg340297
#45 West Coast (Via St Kilda and GWS) -Kamdyn McIntosh (WA – Def/KPD)
Height: 192cm, Weight: 78kg, DOB: 03/04/1994
Recruited from: Peel Thunder
Style: Ted Richards
Player comparison:
Range: 15-45
Profile: McIntosh is a close checking, disciplined defender who can play on all sizes whether it be tall, medium or small forwards to a high level. He finished the season really strongly and showed strong progress in his offensive game in the second half of the season showing an increased willingness to shift off his man and generate some drive. Ball use out of the back half is a highlight and for a tall uses it really well by both hand a foot. Also has really impressive closing speed and above average athleticism allowing him to stick with his man. Has excellent endurance and can go all day. Just one of those guys you can give a role to and he will complete it, no fuss and get the job done. Sometimes with defenders that’s all you need. Also late in the season showed some ability to push up onto a wing and play some good footy showing that he has a few different strings to his bow.
http://www.bigfooty.com/forum/threads/knightmares-2012-mock-draft.956129/
# 46 Sydney
Kamdyn McIntosh
Peel Thunder
192cm / 78kg / ‘94
Others will have him a lot higher but having seen a fair bit of him I am still a bit unsure. Seen a few times at champs and also some of his WAFL games and he didnt scream out the Rd 1 prospect I am being told. What is clear to me he is that he is a good key defensive prospect who seems to have good agility and a good understanding of reading the game and influencing it. I think he would be a Heath Grundy type player as seems to go alright on all types. Testing results from DC were very good.
http://www.bigfooty.com/forum/threads/snoop-dogs-2012-mock-national-draft.980620/
46. West Coast
West Coast may lost Brown next year and could stand to add another tall defender to their ranks. McIntosh is a local guy with some potential in him.
Kamdyn McIntosh
DOB: 3/4/94 Ht: 192 Wt: 78
I originally had McIntosh a fair bit higher than this based on potential but when push came to shove I couldn’t do it. The old eyeball test said he belonged in the third round and that’s where I have taken him. He has a name as a shut-down key position but at the next level I see him more as a third tall / running utility. He did not have good games in the televised games at the Champs but in the other game against Qld I thought he did pretty well.
After the Champs, McIntosh started to put together some really nice games and finished the year with four senior games where he averaged 18 possessions per game. He was given greater licence to get up the field in senior company and showed some ability. He had a very nice 23 possession and 8 mark game in week 21 which I am sure a few recruiters noticed. The ability to not only finish the year strongly but to step up to senior level and actually look a better prospect I think will have teams’ attentions.
What teams would also have liked was his performance at the Combine. I am sure most would have been aware of his elite endurance capabilities but it is always good to perform when the pressure was on and McIntosh delivered with 4th in the 3km and 9th in the beep. He also managed 7th in the kicking test which is a nice result for a guy who is nominally a KPD. At 192cm and with a slim build it is probably unlikely that he will be a KPD at AFL level. His running ability though demonstrates some ability play other running roles and if his kicking is good so much the better.
At the Champs I thought his kicking was good and he regularly brought out a nice flat kick. He probably didn’t get it as much as you would like but when he did he showed reasonable decision making and execution. He tended to look to kick most often with the handball only brought out as a last resort. His handballing was usually under pressure and in those situations he looked pretty scrappy. With the ball in hand and under a lot of pressure he tended to panic a bit.
McIntosh is a relative newcomer to higher level AFL coming from a soccer background. He has moved around between positions a fair bit spending time up forward and through the middle of the ground before settling into defense this year. He has shown good development over the last couple of years and there was definite improvement between the beginning and the end of the year. There is no reason to think that there is not considerable development left in him.
He played on bigs and smalls at the Champs and had some problems with both to tell the truth. He was outsmarted a few times by smalls and was outmarked by KPFs with superior size and strength to himself. He is a pretty good mark of the ball himself but against guys who were quite a bit bigger than himself he gave up a few goals from marks. For the AFL he needs to get stronger and needs to learn to use his body better and not get caught out of position on the spoil. With the ball on the ground he is a little hit and miss. Sometimes he can be really clean and look great whilst at others he will fumble a few times in a row. I probably haven’t seen him enough to make a call on which is more indicative of his play usually.
McIntosh is currently working in a bottlo 4 days a week and doing a bit of early morning work as well. You have to think this would give him a fair bit of perspective and motivate him to make the most of any AFL opportunity that comes his way. As I mentioned above I see him as a third tall type possibly moving up onto the wing where his run and height could be a real asset to his team. His skills are neat and he has shown an ability to step up in class. I would have no problem giving him a go if I was picking from about 40 onwards.
http://www.bigfooty.com/forum/threads/quigleys-2012-mock.980920/
46. West Coast - Kamdyn McIntosh (192cm defender - Peel Thunder)
McIntosh was one of the key defenders that I rated very highly coming into the season, I think he rounded off my top 5. But I must admit, I haven't particularly liked his season this year and I have gone off of him slightly. He played in four of WA's games in the U18 Championships as the third tall defender behind Rodda and Howson, and he didn't really stand out for me - defensively or offensively. But, he made his league debut in the WAFL late this season and I think they were his best games all year. He worked hard offensively and won his fair share of the ball, and his marking was particularly good even against bigger bodies - which isn't hard, given he is only pushing 80kg on a good day. But that suggests he still has a lot of development to come, and the fact that he stepped up his game at a higher level is always a good sign. So I still have high hopes for McIntosh, and I think he could develop like Alex Johnson at the Swans. Plus he has good speed and endurance, which has so far allowed him to play as that rebounding third tall defender. AFL Comparison: Alex Johnson.
http://www.bigfooty.com/forum/threads/young-talent-time-a-2012-mock-draft.956131/
PICK 17 – FREMANTLE: KAMDYN MCINTOSH
Height: 192cm, Weight: 85kg, DOB: 3/4/1994
Recruited from: Peel Thunder
I’ve got McIntosh here as a bolter, and that’s because I really like him, he’s local and Freo need a key defender.
He’s had a really underrated season, and in the last four games he made his debut in the WAFL seniors, not looking out of place at all.
He has a very good rebounding game, like Tom Clurey, and also an enormous tank.
He tested top 5% for the 3km time trial, top 3% for VO2 max, and ran a 14.8 shuttle run.
He can play a variety of positions and on a variety of players, but what I like is his ball use. It’s very, very good.
http://www.footytragic.com/blog/2012-post-season/kristians-2012-phantom-draft/
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Starting to really warm to this pick. Reckon this bloke will be a ripper.
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Expose' on Kam.......he seems to be a top bloke:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=nDeuxV8MjKE
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Superman :cheers
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I just saw a filth sticker on the car window :chuck
Great kid though :gotigers
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Tiger strike stuns a gun
Russell Reid,
The West Australian
November 23, 2012
Peel teenager Kamdyn McIntosh had prepared for the worst yesterday, before the euphoria of being drafted by Richmond.
Despite being widely regarded as a potential top-50 selection, tall defender McIntosh said he was stunned when the Tigers snared him with their second pick and No.31 overall in the national draft.
"I was thinking whatever happens, happens and so be it," McIntosh said. "I was preparing for the worst, to be honest, so the fact that I got picked up by Richmond was just awesome.
"I was at home with my family out in Pinjarra- Ravenswood way and with a couple of close mates.
"As soon as I heard my name we all went crazy."
McIntosh said being drafted was a reward for hard work and he had no qualms about moving interstate.
"I'm just stoked that I got picked up because I've worked so much for this moment," he said.
"I just want to play the best footy I can and I'm really thankful that Richmond gave me that opportunity. I can't wait to start there."
While life is about to change significantly for McIntosh, it is also about to get a whole lot busier in the Pinjarra family's household where he has been a father figure in a real-life version of The Brady Bunch.
McIntosh's mother Carol and her partner are involved in fly-in, fly-out work, and his father Clayton lives in Karratha.
The 18-year-old is the third of nine children spread throughout the State. The oldest, 22-year-old Logan, no longer lives at home and sister Courtney, 20, recently moved to Karratha to be closer to Clayton and siblings Ethan, 5, and Ella, 3.
That has left McIntosh, 16-year-old sister Brooke and the daughters of Carol's boyfriend, Hannah, 11, Isobell, 7, and Jorja, 6, living in Pinjarra.
Whenever their parents are working away, McIntosh and Brooke look after the youngsters with some help from a nanny, Doris.
McIntosh said his mother might be making some changes when he moves.
His father has played a big role in his football life.
"My dad, he's been so influential and has so much positive feedback for me," McIntosh said.
"He's always there for me and always has something good to say to me."
http://au.news.yahoo.com/thewest/sport/a/-/afl/15455156/tiger-strike-stuns-a-gun/
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this kid im excited about , he will make it and has silky skills
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WA Ch 7 news report about KMac: Talented young footballer eyes draft
"Some parents have trouble getting their teenagers to get off the couch, but for Pinjarra youngster Kamdyn McIntosh, that couldn't be further from the truth."
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nDeuxV8MjKE
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VIDEO: Daniel Jackson takes the Roar Vision mic and interviews new boy Kamdyn McIntosh ...
http://www.richmondfc.com.au/roarvisionarchive/tabid/11454/contentid/506691/default.aspx
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VIDEO: Daniel Jackson takes the Roar Vision mic and interviews new boy Kamdyn McIntosh ...
http://www.richmondfc.com.au/roarvisionarchive/tabid/11454/contentid/506691/default.aspx
Carlton :(
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McIntosh at home with the Tigers
By Tony Greenberg
richmondfc.com.au
Thu 29 Nov, 2012
Richmond’s second selection in last week’s 2012 AFL National Draft, Kamdyn McIntosh, will have no problems belting out the Club’s famous theme song, when he gets the opportunity to do so, after playing in his first Tiger win.
McIntosh’s junior club in WA, where he was recruited from, was the Pinjarra Tigers, and he’s had a fair bit of practice over the seasons celebrating victories with a rendition of “We’re From Tigerland”.
Read the full article here: http://www.richmondfc.com.au/news/newsarticle/tabid/6301/newsid/151893/default.aspx
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A real smokey this kid, the wc had massive wraps on him , and they dont get too many wrong just quietly, especially locals :shh
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Shh BJ, not too loud :shh
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A real smokey this kid, the wc had massive wraps on him , and they dont get too many wrong just quietly, especially locals :shh
round 1 :thumbsup
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Played all his juniors forward, what do you say about that Claw?
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Good selection.
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Good to see the club has finally recognised that we needed more defenders, lets hope he can step straight in for Grimes.
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Good to see the club has finally recognised that we needed more defenders, lets hope he can step straight in for Grimes.
We drafted him as a midfielder, he won't replace grimes Austbury will.
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Good to see the club has finally recognised that we needed more defenders, lets hope he can step straight in for Grimes.
We drafted him as a midfielder, he won't replace grimes Austbury will.
:o :o...Where did we say that??? His profile is Backman....why do we do that if this is the case, bloody Griffiths is an example of that.
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Good to see the club has finally recognised that we needed more defenders, lets hope he can step straight in for Grimes.
We drafted him as a midfielder, he won't replace grimes Austbury will.
:o :o...Where did we say that??? His profile is Backman....why do we do that if this is the case, bloody Griffiths is an example of that.
He can play either role WAT, that's what his bio says and why we got him
This what FJ said after the draft:
Pick 31: Camdyn McIntosh, Peel ThunderJackson says: He's a 192cm player who played a key defensive role during the national carnival, but he has the ability to play a midfield role because he has elite endurance. He was in the top three per cent at the Draft Combine for the beep test and 3km time trial. After the carnival, he came back and played senior WAFL footy for Peel Thunder as an outside midfielder.
See: http://oneeyed-richmond.com/forum/index.php?topic=16995.msg342059#msg342059
Also: From FJ on SEN:
Kamdyn big boy, play defender but also as a mid.
He is a kid who can play more than one position, which is important these days. As he defender he can play on the talls and the smaller forwards, the option is also there to play him as a mid because he has great endurance it's a win/win IMV
IMHO this kid is a very good get for us
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Cheers WP.
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A real smokey this kid, the wc had massive wraps on him , and they dont get too many wrong just quietly, especially locals :shh
yeah wce had him pencilled in at 46. he was to be the obvious replacement for when mitch brown leaves next yr or when glass retires which he has spoken of a few times the last couple yrs.. they obviously see him as a defender.
pardon me for continuing to be a bit cynical about him being a mid. not saying he wont become one or he doesnt have some of the attributes needed to be become one but you need more than just endurance to be a mid. im not saying he was a bad pick either on talent. i like him as a defender and a worthy pick at 31.
imo theres a differnce between saying we took a genuine mid and we took a kid we hope we can turn into a kid if we were chasing a genuine mid with this pick then we got it wrong imo.
we took griifiths as a ff and hes wasted down back doing very little other than show glimpses of his ability.
we took post as a key defender and hes was played everywhere doing nothing for his development
we took astbury as a hit up chf and now want him to be a defender and that after he showed his best as a forward.
we took vickery as an outstanding ruck prospect and now he plays almost excluively as a forward hes not looking like a ruckman. not a #1 ruckman anyway.
so much for development eh or even judging them properly. we have a history imo of trying to turn players into something they are not.
we now have another tall player in mcintosh who is very much a tall defender and they want to buck the obvious again and try and turn him into a mid.
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Think you have some very valid points there Claw.
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hes actually a forward, if playing a kid in a different position to where they played as a junior is trying to turn him into something hes not.
dont know what Peel were thinking, playing a forward down back, then playing him on a wing in the seniors. The world has gone completely mad.
next thing you know clubs will not be following the order of preferences in the draft as determined by phantom drafts............
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hes actually a forward, if playing a kid in a different position to where they played as a junior is trying to turn him into something hes not.
dont know what Peel were thinking, playing a forward down back, then playing him on a wing in the seniors. The world has gone completely mad.
next thing you know clubs will not be following the order of preferences in the draft as determined by phantom drafts............
:lol.....spot on...If the kid can play he can play and we can position him wherever as the need arises....as per Griffiths.
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hes actually a forward, if playing a kid in a different position to where they played as a junior is trying to turn him into something hes not.
dont know what Peel were thinking, playing a forward down back, then playing him on a wing in the seniors. The world has gone completely mad.
next thing you know clubs will not be following the order of preferences in the draft as determined by phantom drafts............
Mmm reminds me of Hardwick being a prick and taking Jackson out of the reserves and putting him in the seniors. What sort of magician does he think he is FFS
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I'd like to know how Claw knows what clubs wanted who for what position?
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I'd like to know how Claw knows what clubs wanted who for what position?
Think he means he took..
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He sounds like Matthew Manfield
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I'd like to know how Claw knows what clubs wanted who for what position?
lol you would be surprised at who and what i know but on this one over here it was known by everyone who they wanted.
i actually thought a kid like rodda would have been taken with one of their picks and thats just plain old deduction and commonsense.
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A real smokey this kid, the wc had massive wraps on him , and they dont get too many wrong just quietly, especially locals :shh
yeah wce had him pencilled in at 46. he was to be the obvious replacement for when mitch brown leaves next yr or when glass retires which he has spoken of a few times the last couple yrs.. they obviously see him as a defender.
pardon me for continuing to be a bit cynical about him being a mid. not saying he wont become one or he doesnt have some of the attributes needed to be become one but you need more than just endurance to be a mid. im not saying he was a bad pick either on talent. i like him as a defender and a worthy pick at 31.
imo theres a differnce between saying we took a genuine mid and we took a kid we hope we can turn into a kid if we were chasing a genuine mid with this pick then we got it wrong imo.
we took griifiths as a ff and hes wasted down back doing very little other than show glimpses of his ability.
we took post as a key defender and hes was played everywhere doing nothing for his development
we took astbury as a hit up chf and now want him to be a defender and that after he showed his best as a forward.
we took vickery as an outstanding ruck prospect and now he plays almost excluively as a forward hes not looking like a ruckman. not a #1 ruckman anyway.
so much for development eh or even judging them properly. we have a history imo of trying to turn players into something they are not.
we now have another tall player in mcintosh who is very much a tall defender and they want to buck the obvious again and try and turn him into a mid.
Then Claw tell my why you said this to me a couple of weeks ago when I suggested that McIntosh was an ideal replacement for the injured Grimes??
Time to fast track Mcintosh.
but hes a mid isnt he. ::)
reckon with this scenario we need to take a mature key defender in the rookie draft or psd. kyle hartigan please.
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A real smokey this kid, the wc had massive wraps on him , and they dont get too many wrong just quietly, especially locals :shh
yeah wce had him pencilled in at 46. he was to be the obvious replacement for when mitch brown leaves next yr or when glass retires which he has spoken of a few times the last couple yrs.. they obviously see him as a defender.
pardon me for continuing to be a bit cynical about him being a mid. not saying he wont become one or he doesnt have some of the attributes needed to be become one but you need more than just endurance to be a mid. im not saying he was a bad pick either on talent. i like him as a defender and a worthy pick at 31.
imo theres a differnce between saying we took a genuine mid and we took a kid we hope we can turn into a kid if we were chasing a genuine mid with this pick then we got it wrong imo.
we took griifiths as a ff and hes wasted down back doing very little other than show glimpses of his ability.
we took post as a key defender and hes was played everywhere doing nothing for his development
we took astbury as a hit up chf and now want him to be a defender and that after he showed his best as a forward.
we took vickery as an outstanding ruck prospect and now he plays almost excluively as a forward hes not looking like a ruckman. not a #1 ruckman anyway.
so much for development eh or even judging them properly. we have a history imo of trying to turn players into something they are not.
we now have another tall player in mcintosh who is very much a tall defender and they want to buck the obvious again and try and turn him into a mid.
Then Claw tell my why you said this to me a couple of weeks ago when I suggested that McIntosh was an ideal replacement for the injured Grimes??
Time to fast track Mcintosh.
but hes a mid isnt he. ::)
reckon with this scenario we need to take a mature key defender in the rookie draft or psd. kyle hartigan please.
juat a little tounge in cheek with a dash of sarcasm.
people saying fast track him as a defender and i thought that a bit rich after all the club did say we took him as a mid.
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Geez, i recall them saying he was a defender who in time may push into the midfield due to his attributes
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Geez, i recall them saying he was a defender who in time may push into the midfield due to his attributes
Thats what i heard and there was also mention of how he had played up forward as well. He's a genuine utility in my eyes
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46. West Coast
West Coast may lost Brown next year and could stand to add another tall defender to their ranks. McIntosh is a local guy with some potential in him.
Kamdyn McIntosh
DOB: 3/4/94 Ht: 192 Wt: 78
I originally had McIntosh a fair bit higher than this based on potential but when push came to shove I couldn’t do it. The old eyeball test said he belonged in the third round and that’s where I have taken him. He has a name as a shut-down key position but at the next level I see him more as a third tall / running utility. He did not have good games in the televised games at the Champs but in the other game against Qld I thought he did pretty well.
After the Champs, McIntosh started to put together some really nice games and finished the year with four senior games where he averaged 18 possessions per game. He was given greater licence to get up the field in senior company and showed some ability. He had a very nice 23 possession and 8 mark game in week 21 which I am sure a few recruiters noticed. The ability to not only finish the year strongly but to step up to senior level and actually look a better prospect I think will have teams’ attentions.
What teams would also have liked was his performance at the Combine. I am sure most would have been aware of his elite endurance capabilities but it is always good to perform when the pressure was on and McIntosh delivered with 4th in the 3km and 9th in the beep. He also managed 7th in the kicking test which is a nice result for a guy who is nominally a KPD. At 192cm and with a slim build it is probably unlikely that he will be a KPD at AFL level. His running ability though demonstrates some ability play other running roles and if his kicking is good so much the better.
At the Champs I thought his kicking was good and he regularly brought out a nice flat kick. He probably didn’t get it as much as you would like but when he did he showed reasonable decision making and execution. He tended to look to kick most often with the handball only brought out as a last resort. His handballing was usually under pressure and in those situations he looked pretty scrappy. With the ball in hand and under a lot of pressure he tended to panic a bit.
McIntosh is a relative newcomer to higher level AFL coming from a soccer background. He has moved around between positions a fair bit spending time up forward and through the middle of the ground before settling into defense this year. He has shown good development over the last couple of years and there was definite improvement between the beginning and the end of the year. There is no reason to think that there is not considerable development left in him.
He played on bigs and smalls at the Champs and had some problems with both to tell the truth. He was outsmarted a few times by smalls and was outmarked by KPFs with superior size and strength to himself. He is a pretty good mark of the ball himself but against guys who were quite a bit bigger than himself he gave up a few goals from marks. For the AFL he needs to get stronger and needs to learn to use his body better and not get caught out of position on the spoil. With the ball on the ground he is a little hit and miss. Sometimes he can be really clean and look great whilst at others he will fumble a few times in a row. I probably haven’t seen him enough to make a call on which is more indicative of his play usually.
McIntosh is currently working in a bottlo 4 days a week and doing a bit of early morning work as well. You have to think this would give him a fair bit of perspective and motivate him to make the most of any AFL opportunity that comes his way. As I mentioned above I see him as a third tall type possibly moving up onto the wing where his run and height could be a real asset to his team. His skills are neat and he has shown an ability to step up in class. I would have no problem giving him a go if I was picking from about 40 onwards.
http://www.bigfooty.com/forum/threads/quigleys-2012-mock.980920/
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RFC twitter:
"Darren_Parkin spoke to young @Richmond_FC star Kamdyn McIntosh. You can hear it on @SENfooty tonight at 9 on Sports Overdrive @AllNightApp #afl"
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RFC twitter:
"Darren_Parkin spoke to young @Richmond_FC star Kamdyn McIntosh. You can hear it on @SENfooty tonight at 9 on Sports Overdrive @AllNightApp #afl"
On now
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Summary
* Loving life in Melbourne. Always wanted to live here so it's a big dream come true. Richmond and the boys have made him feel welcome so it's been good.
* All the boys jell well together and get along well. They go out to dinner together when away from the footy so it's not just footy talk but they also talk about what is going on in their social life.
* Living in Thornbury with a host family with Simon, McDonough & Williams.
* Talked about his upbringing and helping to raise his younger siblings. A nanny was brought in to help with looking after the family so he could focus on footy and the draft. He talked about working two jobs from 4am to 11pm on off-day from footy. When footy was on he worked from 10am-3pm and then trained with Peel Thunder getting home at 7.30pm.
* What type of player are you? Kamdyn described himself as a utility type who can play a variety of roles but mainly a half-back winger as he likes the defensive side of the game. Can play up forward as well. He never really compared himself to AFL players who played a similar role to him until later this year and around draft time. Comparisons that you watched and tried to learn off by watching them? - Bryce Gibbs as far as a footballer playing off half-back & Adam Goodes as far as wing play.
* Peel Thunder gave him the opportunity to play against men. Played against Andrew Embley when he was playing for Swan Districts.
* He had mates over on draft night. Only heard "Kamdyn" read out as his mates then went crazy. Didn't hit him that he was now in the AFL when up in Cairns but now in his 2nd week at training at Richmond it's started to sink in that you're playing with guys you once watched on tv and idolised.
* Didn't think Richmond would pick him up as soon as they did. He did have a couple of meetings with Richmond and he knew we were interested and they really liked the way he played.
* Who has impressed you since you've arrived at Richmond and seen them up close? Brandon Ellis in only his second year is one of the fittest in the team; he won the time trial. Also Cotch with the way he trains and plays.
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Geez, i recall them saying he was a defender who in time may push into the midfield due to his attributes
so we did take a defender then. which is it. you guys are telling me we couldnt take a mid with pick 31 because there were none .
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Geez, i recall them saying he was a defender who in time may push into the midfield due to his attributes
so we did take a defender then. which is it. you guys are telling me we couldnt take a mid with pick 31 because there were none .
Shut up Claw, it's getting sad now
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Geez, i recall them saying he was a defender who in time may push into the midfield due to his attributes
so we did take a defender then. which is it. you guys are telling me we couldnt take a mid with pick 31 because there were none .
He's versatile
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Geez, i recall them saying he was a defender who in time may push into the midfield due to his attributes
so we did take a defender then. which is it. you guys are telling me we couldnt take a mid with pick 31 because there were none .
you the stuff are you guys?
One bloke said that there no mids and i asked you who the pure mids were we overlooked.
i doubt there would be too many posters on this forum who would be happy about the idea that I speak for them.
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Geez, i recall them saying he was a defender who in time may push into the midfield due to his attributes
so we did take a defender then. which is it. you guys are telling me we couldnt take a mid with pick 31 because there were none .
Shut up Claw, it's getting sad now
:lol
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Will be the pick of our picks IMO.
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Kamdyn den delight
By richmondfc.com.au
Monday, December 17, 2012
It’s a long way from Pinjarra to Punt Road, so you could excuse Richmond’s second selection in the recent AFL National Draft, Kamdyn McIntosh, for being a little homesick in the initial stages of his AFL journey, so far from his WA home town.
McIntosh, however, is thriving at Tigerland . . .
Read the full article here: http://www.richmondfc.com.au/news/2012-12-17/kamdyn-den-delight
(http://www.richmondfc.com.au/staticfile/AFL%20Tenant/Richmond/Images/kamdynhero.jpg)
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Bachelor mk2
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Already bigger bodied than Edwards.. :thumbsup
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Dude you may sleep with dead fish but you need better bait than that around here LMAO
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Hands down some of the worst wind up attempts I have seen have come from WAT today.
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Hands down some of the worst wind up attempts I have seen have come from WAT today.
Second only to your Gus thread...the entire thread... ;D
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This article is a couple of weeks old but it mentions McIntosh only took up footy 4 years ago so there should be plenty of upside left in him as he develops and matures.
Local lad drafted to AFL team Richmond
Tamara Binamat
Pilbara Echo
December 7, 2012
Michelle and Clayton McIntosh of Karratha couldn’t be more proud of their boy Kamdyn McIntosh, who was selected at number 31 in the Australian Football League’s 2012 national draft by the Richmond Football Club.
Michelle McIntosh said the family watched the results live on national television.
“We’re really excited and happy for him,” she said.
“I think it’s going to be a good challenge for him, it’s something that he’s always really wanted to do.”
Kamdyn is proving a freakish, natural talent at Australian Rules because he only took up the game four years ago.
Before that, when he was living in Karratha as a child, he didn’t even join a footy club, preferring to play karate and soccer instead.
Michelle said her and husband Clayton saw the athletic potential in their 18-year-old son early in his childhood.
“He’s got a real drive to do his best, and he has really enjoyed football and can’t wait to start playing for Richmond.”
Kamdyn will be back home in Karratha for Christmas with his parents.
http://pilbaraecho.com.au/2012/12/07/local-lad-drafted-to-afl-team-richmond/
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What's going on with this bloke. Heard very little of late.
Edit: Just did some research and apparently he played for the burgers last weekend and went alright.
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How is this bloke going? Would he be ready to play this year at all?
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Grown to an impressive 194cm :o
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Grown to an impressive 194cm :o
That's great, hopefully he turns into a KPD one we desperately need
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we'vegot a few about that height. We need one around 200cm..........
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we'vegot a few about that height. We need one around 200cm..........
They are called Griffiths and Elton.
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So maybe Elton?
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we'vegot a few about that height. We need one around 200cm..........
True, but with Grimes doing his best impersonation of bruce reid, and Astbury not coming on, another one that height would be handy.
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we'vegot a few about that height. We need one around 200cm..........that can play
Edited for accuracy
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we'vegot a few about that height. We need one around 200cm..........
True, but with Grimes doing his best impersonation of bruce reid, and Astbury not coming on, another one that height would be handy.
Astbury has been hampered as much as grimes by injury, but fair point still.
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Grown to an impressive 194cm :o
Heard that in Rance's video. No wonder it seems they have no idea where to play him. Drafted as a wing and grown 6cm since mid last year. :shh
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Drafted as a hbf. Was he not
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Has lots of potential a good mover and nice kicking action but sometimes still misses targets. He is a good size and at 194cm someone who should be groomed to play CHB in the future.
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Grown to an impressive 194cm :o
Heard that in Rance's video. No wonder it seems they have no idea where to play him. Drafted as a wing and grown 6cm since mid last year. :shh
The idea of a 194cm wingman is nearly as appealing as a 200cm CHB
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Kamdyn McIntosh in focus
richmondfc.com.au
October 16, 2013 4:15 PM
In the second part of a new series on richmondfc.com.au, Richmond’s VFL coach Tim Clarke provides an exclusive assessment of the 2013 form and future prospects of young Tiger, from way out West, Kamdyn McIntosh.
Tim Clarke says: “He had a good year, although he doesn’t think it was as good as what it could have been.
Read more at: http://www.richmondfc.com.au/news/2013-10-16/kamdyn-mcintosh-in-focus
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From reading that article seems a while of playing AFL footy.
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From Tone Greenberg @TigerlandTone twitter:
"The difference in Kamdyn McIntosh's body shape since he arrived is startling. Has grown 4cm since 2012, too. Wing beckons."
"it's astonishing. He used to train 1 day a week & play WAFL, while looking after 4 siblings. Hope he stays fit. A real wildcard"
"he will get a lot of attention. But he is maturing before our eyes. He doesn't look a kid now"
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194cm+ players who can play on a wing at MCG are assets to have in any team. Picked this guy out a while ago to do big things in the yellow and black. :pray
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clawski's love child
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Grown to an impressive 194cm :o
Heard that in Rance's video. No wonder it seems they have no idea where to play him. Drafted as a wing and grown 6cm since mid last year. :shh
we recruited him at 192cm so hes grown a whopping 2cm. mate he played a few games at wafl level on the wing and suddenly hes a wingman. what waffle.he was always a tall defender and spent nearly all of his formative yrs there.
his best position is clearly as a tall defender. if we recruited him on the off chance he could adapt to a mid role we should have went out and drafted a genuine mid instead. we need to play these kids to their real strengths.
mcintosh is a genuinely accountable tall defender who can provide run and carry. there is absolutely no mystery about where to play him its smacking them in the face.
ive had this debate. at times they really look like amateurs. when they come out and say before trade and draft periods that we need genuine mids and then proceed to in the main ignore them has me pull my hair out.
they took a tall defender and on the back of 3 wafl games i think proceeded to justify what they had said by calling him a mid. i still ask why dont we recruit mids when we need em. defenders when we need em rucks when we need em and forwards when we need em rather than constantly hedging our bets.
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pretty sure he was around 188cm when we drafted him. Oh and yeah highly doubt he'll ever be a "wingman" or "midfielder"
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Grown to an impressive 194cm :o
Heard that in Rance's video. No wonder it seems they have no idea where to play him. Drafted as a wing and grown 6cm since mid last year. :shh
we recruited him at 192cm so hes grown a whopping 2cm. mate he played a few games at wafl level on the wing and suddenly hes a wingman. what waffle.he was always a tall defender and spent nearly all of his formative yrs there.
his best position is clearly as a tall defender. if we recruited him on the off chance he could adapt to a mid role we should have went out and drafted a genuine mid instead. we need to play these kids to their real strengths.
mcintosh is a genuinely accountable tall defender who can provide run and carry. there is absolutely no mystery about where to play him its smacking them in the face.
ive had this debate. at times they really look like amateurs. when they come out and say before trade and draft periods that we need genuine mids and then proceed to in the main ignore them has me pull my hair out.
they took a tall defender and on the back of 3 wafl games i think proceeded to justify what they had said by calling him a mid. i still ask why dont we recruit mids when we need em. defenders when we need em rucks when we need em and forwards when we need em rather than constantly hedging our bets.
iirc u had him in your best 22
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Grown to an impressive 194cm :o
Heard that in Rance's video. No wonder it seems they have no idea where to play him. Drafted as a wing and grown 6cm since mid last year. :shh
we recruited him at 192cm so hes grown a whopping 2cm. mate he played a few games at wafl level on the wing and suddenly hes a wingman.
He will likely get a crack at wing this year.
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sheesh!
when will the club learn that where someone plays as a kid is their position for life? :banghead
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Lol love how claw counters the clubs claims of 4cm, like he has gone and measured him up himself, :lol what do you think the club is some kinda propaganda machine :o
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sheesh!
when will the club learn that where someone plays as a kid is their position for life? :banghead
:lol :lol
Yep so true
I would think there's absolutely no hope that any 18 soon to be 19yo could possbily play anywhere else but where they did in the U10s or U12s
:rollin :rollin
BTW realise this but Kamdyn and I share a birthday :clapping :clapping Knew there was a reason I was massive rap for this kid ;D
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Well, I know a lot of Italian and Greek that had beards and were 5'10 at under 12s and played in the ruck = They stopped growing at 11 and stayed 5'10. I would love to see them in the ruck against a 6'11 player. :scream :lol
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Well, I know a lot of Italian and Greek that had beards and were 5'10 at under 12s and played in the ruck = They stopped growing at 11 and stayed 5'10. I would love to see them in the ruck against a 6'11 player. :scream :lol
:lol :cheers
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pretty sure he was around 188cm when we drafted him. Oh and yeah highly doubt he'll ever be a "wingman" or "midfielder"
Lol love how claw counters the clubs claims of 4cm, like he has gone and measured him up himself, :lol what do you think the club is some kinda propaganda machine :o
Pretty simple, go to opening posts.
Pick 31 ~ Kamdyn Mcintosh
Player statistics
DOB:03/04/1994
Height:192cm
Position:Defender
Weight:85kg
Player assessment
Tall defender with a very good combination of pace and endurance. Versatile defender capable of playing on medium and talls. Played four matches for WA at the NAB AFL Under 18 Championships closing down dangerous opponents and providing good run from defence. Acquitted himself well in four matches at senior level for Peel, averaging 17.5 disposals, five marks and three tackles.
Claw the accurate one. :cheers
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He grew a for bit in the led up to the draft day, no?
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Grown to an impressive 194cm :o
Heard that in Rance's video. No wonder it seems they have no idea where to play him. Drafted as a wing and grown 6cm since mid last year. :shh
we recruited him at 192cm so hes grown a whopping 2cm. mate he played a few games at wafl level on the wing and suddenly hes a wingman.
but where is his best position.
He will likely get a crack at wing this year.
lets see
mcbean as ar uck have we played him at anytime in the role at coburg. we did draft hin as a ruckman.
vickery as a ruck well thats a failed cause isnt it. why wasnt vickery developed in the ruck role at coburg. i have to ask will he be good enough as a forward.
post a tall forward puled so often from pillar to post pardon the pun that he didnt know if he was arthur or martha.
elton a tall forward is being developed where.
griffiths another tall forward is playing where.
derickx yes even derickx drafted as a ruckman and played mainly where again.
astbury - geez as a junior a genuine hit up forward where have we played him. its not as if we havent been screaming out for a hit up forward.
mcguane - was drafted as a tall forward . we knew best though and played him as a defender it took how many yrs to realise the error.
mcintosh a tall defender and hes playing where.
yep we have been real successful playing players away from where they played best as juniors..
Edited to correct quote
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Déjà vu
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Screw the wing. Some size in the back line can't be a bad thing
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Grown to an impressive 194cm :o
Heard that in Rance's video. No wonder it seems they have no idea where to play him. Drafted as a wing and grown 6cm since mid last year. :shh
we recruited him at 192cm so hes grown a whopping 2cm. mate he played a few games at wafl level on the wing and suddenly hes a wingman. what waffle.he was always a tall defender and spent nearly all of his formative yrs there.
his best position is clearly as a tall defender. if we recruited him on the off chance he could adapt to a mid role we should have went out and drafted a genuine mid instead. we need to play these kids to their real strengths.
mcintosh is a genuinely accountable tall defender who can provide run and carry. there is absolutely no mystery about where to play him its smacking them in the face.
ive had this debate. at times they really look like amateurs. when they come out and say before trade and draft periods that we need genuine mids and then proceed to in the main ignore them has me pull my hair out.
they took a tall defender and on the back of 3 wafl games i think proceeded to justify what they had said by calling him a mid. i still ask why dont we recruit mids when we need em. defenders when we need em rucks when we need em and forwards when we need em rather than constantly hedging our bets.
iirc u had him in your best 22
and i would really like to see him playing off hb in the 22. atm ive picked him on nothing but potential.
im one of few who has regularly said we must give games to some of the younger blokes still.
what i would like to see and what we get dished up is two different things. in the back half i really think this is the way to go.
b/ morris - chaplin - grimes. i really believe grimes must add to his game in several areas. morris also.
hb/ mcintosh/dea - rance - vlastuin. have stuck with dea over the journey i think he has the talent but he needs to transform that talent to afl level.both mcintosh and dea need to play but it would be very optimistic to expect both to play most games. make one of the hbf theirs and develop them alternately.
the back half changes would go.
no newman give mcintosh/dea his role. we had better start getting used to life without him.
no houli play vlastuin in his place. great reader of the play bloody accountable and he uses the ball real well always making the right decisions.
drop the sheep dog grigg and replace him with the better kicking sheepdog in houli on a wing. also move newman forward or make him a part of midfield rotations.
i also firmly believe we should have in our system a GENUINE 195cm 95-100kg kpd whos main strength is being good one v one. in fact we should have had one developing for the last 3 or 4 yrs. NONE OF THIS rubbish DRAFTING FORWARDS AND HOPING TO TURN EM INTO A DEFENDER.
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pretty sure he was around 188cm when we drafted him. Oh and yeah highly doubt he'll ever be a "wingman" or "midfielder"
Lol love how claw counters the clubs claims of 4cm, like he has gone and measured him up himself, :lol what do you think the club is some kinda propaganda machine :o
Pretty simple, go to opening posts.
Pick 31 ~ Kamdyn Mcintosh
Player statistics
DOB:03/04/1994
Height:192cm
Position:Defender
Weight:85kg
Player assessment
Tall defender with a very good combination of pace and endurance. Versatile defender capable of playing on medium and talls. Played four matches for WA at the NAB AFL Under 18 Championships closing down dangerous opponents and providing good run from defence. Acquitted himself well in four matches at senior level for Peel, averaging 17.5 disposals, five marks and three tackles.
Claw the accurate one. :cheers
HHAAARRRGGGHHHH HHHHAAARRRGGGHHHH HHHHHAAAAARRRRGGGGGHHHHH
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CLAW
Concise Literature Always Welcomed. ;D
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thoughts?
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CrapIntosh. hurr hurr
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Won't make it. Absolute goofball
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Won't make it. Absolute goofball
Harsh.1st game geez.
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Did one or two nice things.
Very raw still.....
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No impact for us.
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Did one or two nice things.
Very raw still.....
Agree with this...still requires development however, looks OK for mine.
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Lacked vision and didnt do the basics.
Some really basic errors made
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Lacked vision and didnt do the basics.
Some really basic errors made
Yes he made some basic errors like getting caught a few times but he got some hard balls, made a nice intercept mark and then delivered a perfect pass inside the forward 50. Was obviously nervous but looks like he has some tools to work with...vision will need to improve, so agree with that.
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At least he was trying to take the game on. Probably works 9 times out of 10 in VFL when taking a tackler on but didn't adjust to the pace of AFL (even pre-season) level. Something to work with but proved that along with some of the other young blokes that he's still a fair way off. Will be better for the hit out.
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Showed some brief glimpses but the previews of the bad stuff were longer and far more detailed. Early days of course but at this point in time it's not hard to see why he was the least talked about of last year's kids.
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At least he was trying to take the game on. Probably works 9 times out of 10 in VFL when taking a tackler on but didn't adjust to the pace of AFL (even pre-season) level. Something to work with but proved that along with some of the other young blokes that he's still a fair way off. Will be better for the hit out.
X2
:clapping
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At least he was trying to take the game on. Probably works 9 times out of 10 in VFL when taking a tackler on but didn't adjust to the pace of AFL (even pre-season) level. Something to work with but proved that along with some of the other young blokes that he's still a fair way off. Will be better for the hit out.
X2
:clapping
Well last night the game was taken on.
Sydney keeping the ball in the richmond forward line, playing someone back and pressing into our half was a very effective tactic and beat us. As per usual. It seems we were crying out for a kid that would take the game on. Rather than a loaping Chaplin or a squibby houli
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Well he can't be considered at the moment because he is injured out for 6 weeks
Broken foot
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Indeed we not consisted when fit either however
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Put him in for Hampson
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Jon Ralph @RalphyHeraldSun twitter:
"Even Damien Hardwick knows our fantasy footy game better than the rest. Nominates Kamdyn McIntosh as a Supercoach steal at RFC family day."
https://twitter.com/RalphyHeraldSun/status/571855760566579200
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i take it hes had an injury free run so far this off season. still have a lot of hope for this kid. but he really needs to stay healthy and he needs to take a step up or two. cmon tiges please play him off h/b.
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Hope he's developed a shedload over the summer bc he was way off the pace last season
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Does him not playing the first game but to come through with the big boys mean he is in calculations?
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Hasn't shown much IMO so I can't see why.
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surely he has shown plenty to often get in claws best 22?
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It's cause he's from WA
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Thoughts on Kamdyn's game yesterday?
16 disposals (9k, 6h) @ 60% efficiency.
3 marks.
4 tackles.
4 inside 50s
2 points
Game time: 84%.
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Coming along very nicely , another praccy game like that will bring him right into calcs for r1 :shh
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Does look pretty good, decent size too.
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Disposal efficiency 60% but what about kicking efficiency?
My perception was his kicking under low to moderate pressure was very ordinary.
If he plays the same way against afl seniors he's going to cost us goals
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Had a go. Wasn't afraid to have a run. Might just make it off half back. Really good size too.
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Thoughts on Kamdyn's game yesterday?
16 disposals (9k, 6h) @ 60% efficiency.
3 marks.
4 tackles.
4 inside 50s
2 points
Game time: 84%.
Very encouraging but needs more exposure at the higher level. Had the sense this is one kid we need to bring through.
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Yep, the longer the game went you could see him become more comfortable at the level. Play the kid on the wing and with his running ability plus his size, he can float down back when necessary. Hope he plays seniors this year.
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Replace Grig in side? Discuss :)
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Disposal efficiency 60% but what about kicking efficiency?
My perception was his kicking under low to moderate pressure was very ordinary.
If he plays the same way against afl seniors he's going to cost us goals
Pretty much how i saw it, but as the game wore in he got better.
Isnt the first, nor will be he the last kid to rush and fluff his disposal in his early senior games. I'm prepared to cut him slack at this point. I was more disappointed in Vlaustuins disposal, TBH.
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Disposal efficiency 60% but what about kicking efficiency?
My perception was his kicking under low to moderate pressure was very ordinary.
If he plays the same way against afl seniors he's going to cost us goals
Pretty much how i saw it, but as the game wore in he got better.
Isnt the first, nor will be he the last kid to rush and fluff his disposal in his early senior games. I'm prepared to cut him slack at this point. I was more disappointed in Vlaustuins disposal, TBH.
Agree. I hadn't seen much of him at all up to yesterday but he impressed me more as the game went on - he seemed to pick up the pace of the game and believe in himself more and was playing quite well by the end.
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McIntosh has to be persevered with. He has ability ... just needs more game time.
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Long term project but has huge upside.
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We be a very very good player
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Long term project but has huge upside.
Yep will be very good for us long term if he keeps improving.
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Ran his guts out yesterday and importantly is prepared to tackle
Agree. I hadn't seen much of him at all up to yesterday but he impressed me more as the game went on - he seemed to pick up the pace of the game and believe in himself more and was playing quite well by the end.
Spot on.
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Yes he is really picking it up well!! Lest hope he keeps going.
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Showed a bit in the practice match and might have some scope for improvement.
Lets get some senior footy into him and see how he's really going.
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Yes he is really picking it up well!! Lest hope he keeps going.
You do realise he missed more targets than Batch did?
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Did some ok things but generally looked as ordinary as he does every week in the VFL. Would still play him over Newman though.
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Any chance for round 1 after today's effort?
In his third year on Richmond’s list, McIntosh is ready to run out against the Blues at the MCG on April 2 after turning heads in the past two NAB Challenge outings.
Against North Melbourne on Saturday the running defender gathered 17 disposals, six marks and a goal for a return of 77 SuperCoach points.
http://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/afl/supercoach-2015-richmond-defender-kamdyn-mcintosh-could-be-the-answer-to-rookie-problem/story-fni5f3gz-1227272764737
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Certainly not our worst. Has developed his game. Can't see him being elite but definitely handy so kudos to him
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He plays Round 1 for mine. Give him a go
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He plays R 1 , is galloping ahead of Gordon for a spot and will get better
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Really impressed with him the last 2 weeks given he hasn't played a game at the senior yet.
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He has size. Just stuffing play him for F's sake.
For like 4-6 games straight. Not 1.
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He has size. Just stuffing play him for F's sake.
For like 4-6 games straight. Not 1.
exactly this
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Well played again :clapping
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Improved on last week and has genuine claims to a spot next week. Hope he makes it, I like his attributes and attitude.
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He has size. Just stuffing play him for F's sake.
For like 4-6 games straight. Not 1.
Unfortunately when Newy is right he'll be straight out. The coach has favourites
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Improved on last week and has genuine claims to a spot next week. Hope he makes it, I like his attributes and attitude.
Agreed. Can see him believing more and more each week.
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Still not sure of him but based on his effort against North he deserves a pat on the back. Sometimes seemed a bit panicky but that'll hopefully come with some exposure at the top level
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Still looks ordinary to me....think people are just over-excited by his size , (some arse clown on another board even has him pegged as an "outside Josh Kennedy" haha oh mercy... ) still he's always had a dip, is not entirely without attributes and as I said last week, would play him ahead of Newman all year...at this stage I think if he's going to improve it will be more likely at AFL level surrounded by the likes of Cotchin, Martin & Rance than in McGoo's surrounded by the potatoes like Barlow, Batsanis and a bunch of even greener kids...
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Yeah im not sold yet, but has definitely progressed a lot from this time last year. Like you, would like to see him given a decent run to see whether he belongs or not
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McIntosh in the frame
richmondfc.com.au
March 24, 2015 10:27 AM
Hard-running, young wingman, Kamdyn McIntosh has given himself every chance of making his senior league debut in Richmond’s blockbuster season-opener against Carlton at the MCG.
Read more: http://www.richmondfc.com.au/news/2015-03-24/mcintosh-in-the-frame
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Won't play not ready
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Won't play not ready
Put him in the "not ready" bucket with a heap of others mate.
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Averaged 16/17 possies over the three nab, has some tricks , is a good size and frame on him for a winger. Moves well and will continue to improve with more game time at senior level , will definitely play come R 1 :shh lets go kammy Mac :clapping
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VIDEO: Kamdyn McIntosh chats to Roar Vision about his impressive pre-season and goals for 2015 ...
http://www.richmondfc.com.au/video/2015-03-26/kamdyns-poised-preseason
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Had a great chat last night to Kam at the season launch, super impressive young man
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Had a great chat last night to Kam at the season launch, super impressive young man
If we're to take the next step we need the improvement to come from within. Kamdyn seems one capable of genuinely delivering it.
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Replace Grig in side? Discuss :)
nope if we are serious about becoming a good side he should play back. he has good skills and imo he should replace that soft weak pea heart houli.
he wont do as much as houli right now so it wont happen even though it should. we cant get better with the likes of holi and others in the side.
bite the bullet do some hard yards and get some games into this lad. if hes good enough that would be great if hes not i dont want to wait 3 or 4 yrs before we cut him. play him lets find out one way or the other.
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Replace Grig in side? Discuss :)
nope if we are serious about becoming a good side he should play back. he has good skills and imo he should replace that soft weak pea heart houli.
he wont do as much as houli right now so it wont happen even though it should. we cant get better with the likes of holi and others in the side.
bite the bullet do some hard yards and get some games into this lad. if hes good enough that would be great if hes not i dont want to wait 3 or 4 yrs before we cut him. play him lets find out one way or the other.
Houli is a good player. Just not a defender. More winger half forward.
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Houli is a very good footballer
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Houli is a very good footballer
hes a very limited average player with little or no upside left to his game.
just doesnt have the awareness to play in the midfield and has always been a very poor 1v1 defender. he and newman have been the banes of my life never ever capable of doing a job on a direct opponent or swap with a player whos getting badly beaten, the only thing that has saved them yr on end is their ability to kick the ball.neither have ever shown they can rotate thru the middle and play consistently well. they both keep players out of the side who have the attributes at least to be good defenders.
imo people see houli get a bit of ball which he does and they think hes a good player. he kicks the ball well on one side and delivers well most times and people think hes a good player. thats just two areas of the game what about when hes made accountable or when hes put under pressure. we want our defenders to be able to defend.
yep hees probably one of our best 22 players but imo we need to do better if we want to succeed.
imo your sml and med defenders need to do three things well. read the play well , rebound well, defend well, preferably have pace and lastly kick well. for me houli has only ever done one of the above consistently well and even then its only on one side of the body.
imo houli and grigg are great reflectors of our team, play real well when they allowed to run around free, as soon as they are made accountable and have to earn a kick or perform under real pressure they fold like concertina doors.
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Houli is a very good footballer when the match is going our way or oppositions exert little or no pressure on him.
e.f.a
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Houli is a very good footballer
yep, ridiculously underated
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Someone says family has flown over from wa ?
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Kamdyn named to make his Tiger debut :clapping.
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Well done Kam Mac :gotigers
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Hope he has a debut like bitch robinson did against us with 3 goals
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while im pleased he will debut i strongly believe he should be played of h/b. ffs jake batchelor named as a 4th tall, yep we will get run composure delivery and pace with jake back there ::)
damien just loves his duds.
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I think they'll play Batchelor taller not as our 4th rebounding defender and try and get more run and carry from Grimes and Rance.
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We play one tall short with chaps anyhow :rollin
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I think they'll play Batchelor taller not as our 4th rebounding defender and try and get more run and carry from Grimes and Rance.
thats even worse he just isnt big enough to play kp maybe at vfl but no way afl. hes an inbetweener for this level and he wont make it.
all i can say is thank Geez they didnt name casboult, in fact with just two tall fwds named by carltank run pace rebound and footskills are even more important.
id have no problem playing mcintosh off hb instead of batchelor and bring lambert onto a wing and deservedly so.
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Think you're harsh on Batch, Claw. He'll go alright this year I reckon.
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Think you're harsh on Batch, Claw. He'll go alright this year I reckon.
alright is about as good as you will get from him. why cant we make some calls on players based simply on their performances and more importantly their attributes.
simple fact is he is too short to play tall and hes too slow to play sml. throw in numerous other complaints and the sum total spells DUD.
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23 disposals
8 contested possies.
9 marks
2 clearances
2 tackles
4 inside 50s
1 goal
Say hello Rising Star round 1 nominee - Kamdyn McIntosh :yep :thumbsup.
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Awesome.
God I hope that's the standard and not a Dean Polo repeat.
Will need a bit more proof but for now it's hats off to clawski who called it.
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Awesome.
God I hope that's the standard and not a Dean Polo repeat.
Will need a bit more proof but for now it's hats off to clawski who called it.
no worries there mate. as stated he has all the attributes to make it. as good as his game was tonight i still would dearly love to see him play of hb.
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That run down the wing! Wooooo
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About time we had a ball carrier, something that's been missing for some time. Hopefully over time we get some similar running players into the side.
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:bow K-Mac
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Won't play not ready
Good call
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Started the come back imo. After he kicked that goal he set the next two up from winning a couple crucial contests. What a jet.
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"THE TOSH" I said it team......
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About time we had a ball carrier, something that's been missing for some time. Hopefully over time we get some similar running players into the side.
Connor Menadue, in for newman or grigg
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Like stuffen whoa , love how we told the media menadue was training the house down when all along it was this bloke, the KGB would be proud of that snow job , carlton had no idea :clapping
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Great debut. Excellent.
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Loved his work. Kid looks like a real weapon in the making.
The Running Man.
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About time we had a ball carrier, something that's been missing for some time. Hopefully over time we get some similar running players into the side.
Connor Menadue, in for newman or grigg
hmm for me c ellis and lambert for both. unfortunately connor is miles away imo.
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Very happy for the Tosh! Played the house down! Loved it when he beat Judd pointless! Was instrumental in our turn around in the second quarter.
Keep up the good work son! :gotigers
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The patience has been worth it.
People thought he was lucky to get another contract at the end of last season. Tonight is the reason he was given another contract
Though we better watch out, heaven forbid if we've picked a decent 2nd rounder, just can't happen can it? :rollin
Great game form a great kid.
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One down hopefully many many more like that to come. :thumbsup
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Geez he's a unit, strong powerful and runs like a real athlete
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Brilliant.
He and Taylor Hunt provide run and carry we haven't had for years. :clapping :clapping :clapping
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Geez he's a unit, strong powerful and runs like a real athlete
Built like Matthew Mansfield but can play a bit
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Not only that but he has a bit of idiot about him
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^^^yep certainly looks like it
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Some unfortunately like to pull the trigger early around these parts.
Lucky they aren't involved in the club.
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Some unfortunately like to pull the trigger early around these parts.
Lucky they aren't involved in the club.
If u wanna look younger hang around older people.
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He's like a bulldozer
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The patience has been worth it.
People thought he was lucky to get another contract at the end of last season. Tonight is the reason he was given another contract
Though we better watch out, heaven forbid if we've picked a decent 2nd rounder, just can't happen can it? :rollin
Great game form a great kid.
I can tell you there won't be a happier person than me if the recruiting staff finally get it right. :thumbsup
Its been a long time coming lets hope he continues to improve & he stays a tiger. :cheers
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i like how he tackles
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I like his designer stubble
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Player focus: Debutant Kamdyn McIntosh becomes an instant Tiger hero
Travis King
afl.com.au
April 3, 2015
WHO IS Kamdyn McIntosh? That was the question on many people's lips during the season-opener.
It will be probably a question the Blues will be asking themselves all week after the 192cm debutant celebrated his 21st birthday one day early by upstaging some of the competition's premier midfielders to lead Richmond to a 27-point victory over arch-rivals Carlton at the MCG.
Performance against Carlton
In one of the most memorable debuts in years, McIntosh put two seasons of waiting to pull on the yellow and black behind him and ensured his relatives who travelled from Western Australia for the occasion wouldn't be disappointed.
Plucked with pick 31 overall in the 2012 NAB AFL Draft, the Pinjarra product arrived at Richmond with a soccer background, massive engine, a turn of pace and, clearly, a ton of composure.
Cut down by a shoulder injury in his debut season and foot stress fracture late last year, McIntosh was only offered a one-year contract extension to remain at Punt Road in 2015.
Early signs are a new deal might not be far away.
McIntosh belied his inexperience by producing an assured display that was death by a thousand cuts for the Blues.
He twice left none other than his idol Chris Judd in his wake in scintillating bursts.
Reading the ball off hands at half-forward in the second quarter, McIntosh burnt off the champ, steadied from 40m and banged through the first goal of his career that had the hallmarks of a Judd special.
The goal dragged the Tigers back to within 15 points after Carlton's initial burst had rocked Richmond.
Moments later, in a footrace with Judd on the Great Southern Stand wing, McIntosh held his feet while the champ went to ground then surged the ball forward for Jack Riewoldt to boot his first major and get himself into the game.
At half-time, McIntosh had collected 13 touches, booted 1.2 and been instrumental in the Tigers' fightback.
Despite his influence, the Blues refused to go near McIntosh during the third term.
Roaming through half-back, on a wing and into attack, the debutant did as he pleased - which was generally the best thing for the team - as he barked orders at his teammates and directed traffic from a kick behind the play.
The youngster perhaps ran out of steam during the fourth quarter, but McIntosh's damage was already done.
High point
It's rare that a first-gamer produces more than one or two efforts for the highlight reel, but with McIntosh you could take your pick of about half-a-dozen. Was it when he burnt off Chris Judd on a wing, or held a goal-saving mark in defence? Or when he left the Blues champ eating his dust and nailed his first career goal on the run? Perhaps the watermark was when he took five bounces from half-back and streaked down the Great Southern Stand wing before lowering his eyes and hitting Riewoldt lace-out on the lead in the final term.
Low point
With Richmond on top in the third quarter, McIntosh marshalled his teammates into position across half-forward to lock the ball inside 50, and found himself in space ready to intercept a rushed clearing kick. The scenario played out perfectly, only for McIntosh to drop an uncontested mark. Carlton gathered the spillage and raced the ball forward, but Bryce Gibbs gave McIntosh a reprieve when he sliced off the side of his boot out on the full at half-forward.
The stats sheet
KICKS HANDBALLS DISPOSALS INSIDE 50s CLEARANCES CONTESTED POSSESSIONS GOALS BEHINDS
Q1 5 4 9 0 0 1 0 1
Q2 3 1 4 2 1 3 1 1
Q3 4 4 8 1 1 4 0 0
Q4 2 0 2 1 0 1 0 0
Total 14 9 23 4 2 8 1 2
What they said in the rooms
"I'm pretty rattled that I played as good as I did. I've always dreamt of something like this and to play in front of a crowd like that. I was pretty nervous at the start. Growing up I barracked for Carlton. To play on Juddy – I idolised him as a kid growing up when he was at West Coast and then when he changed to Carlton – so to line-up on Juddy was a pretty big thrill." – Kamdyn McIntosh
"He was very good. We always knew we'd had a player. He's been three years in the making, he's been in our system a fair amount of time. His ability to work from contest to contest is very good. He's still got a long way to go, don't get me wrong, there's still some things in his game he can improve on. But overall he ticked that box tonight, [we're] pretty happy with it." – coach Damien Hardwick
How will he fare next week against the Western Bulldogs?
The message behind closed doors post-match was to rest, recover and get ready for a testing encounter in nine days' time against the Dogs. McIntosh ran himself into the ground on the wide expanses of the 'G and Tigers' coach Damien Hardwick clearly wanted to remind the youngster the AFL season is a marathon.
There's no doubt McIntosh has done enough to earn a second game and he said he won't change anything about the way he plays heading into round two against a young Bulldogs midfield brigade.
http://www.afl.com.au/news/2015-04-03/player-focus-debutant-kamdyn-mcintosh-becomes-an-instant-tiger-hero
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Not only that but he has a bit of idiot about him
You just know if someone tries to tackle him too hard he's going to turn around and batter their face in.
I know that may ring alarm bells for some, but that's important to me
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We be a very very good player
He is a very very very good player
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Absolutely brilliant!!! :clapping :clapping :clapping
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We be a very very good player
He is a very very very good player
Credit where credit is due. A fine call :thumbsup
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Puts the level of heart amongst our so called leaders into perspective.
Miles did it last year too.
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He took out Daisy Thomas too which certainly helped our cause.
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Well Well ;D Now that was a rising star moment last night. ;D :thumbsup :gotigers
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An FJ black book special :shh,,,,,,,again :clapping
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He took out Daisy Thomas too which certainly helped our cause.
Did Daisy a favour. Gave him a silver lining injury. His ankles still need the time out on the sidelines.
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An FJ black book special :shh,,,,,,,again :clapping
Jarrad Oakley Nicholls :shh
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Kamdyn McIntosh :birthday :gotigers 21 today ;D
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We be a very very good player
He is a very very very good player
Woah man, he's played one good game. Can't fault him but you can't go around acting like he's been a star for years.
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We be a very very good player
He is a very very very good player
Woah man, he's played one good game. Can't fault him but you can't go around acting like he's been a star for years.
Played very well during the NAB too. Credit where it is due.
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We be a very very good player
He is a very very very good player
Woah man, he's played one good game. Can't fault him but you can't go around acting like he's been a star for years.
Went to all NAB challenge games and watched him train this year
This kid will go a long way
Can play
Natural talent
And nothing wrong with the kid thinking he can play as the kid needs to believe
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We be a very very good player
He is a very very very good player
Woah man, he's played one good game. Can't fault him but you can't go around acting like he's been a star for years.
Went to all NAB challenge games and watched him train this year
This kid will go a long way
Can play
Natural talent
And nothing wrong with the kid thinking he can play as the kid needs to believe
Kouta
:shh
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Good debut!
Just keep running all day Kamdyn!
Run them off their feet!
Happy 21st Birthday Kamdyn!
:birthday
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Brian Wood clone?
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Brian Wood clone?
His goal last night reminded me of a goal Brian Wood goal v Carlton at Waverley I 1980 at the big scoreboard end. Running in with poise and a long shot. :thumbsup
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I hope part of his intent is to hurt the opposition.
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surely he has shown plenty to often get in claws best 22?
lol. think ive regularly wanted them to give him games ever since he arrived.it really isnt that hard to identify players with the right sort of attributes to play at the level. in fact hes one of the few picks after the 1st round that i have agreed with fj for taking. ah fj 2 out of about 30 aint bad eh.
things are looking up. hhhaaarrrgggghhhhh.
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An FJ black book special :shh,,,,,,,again :clapping
Jarrad Oakley Nicholls :shh
I think you'll find that was a greg miller special partner during TW time, wrong era :gotigers
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An FJ black book special :shh,,,,,,,again :clapping
Jarrad Oakley Nicholls :shh
I think you'll find that was a greg miller special partner during TW time, wrong era :gotigers
FJ part time im pretty sure. Right hand man
this guy though looks the goods
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An FJ black book special :shh,,,,,,,again :clapping
Jarrad Oakley Nicholls :shh
I think you'll find that was a greg miller special partner during TW time, wrong era :gotigers
weve been there done that fj got a full time job on the back of his 2005 draft.
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Richmond Tigers debutant knew he was 'ready' for big league
Jon Pierik
The Age
April 4, 2015
Emerging Richmond midfielder Kamdyn McIntosh knew he was ready to step out in the seniors - he just needed his body to remain healthy.
After two tough seasons cut down by injury, McIntosh found himself in the form of his life on Thursday night, as he introduced himself to the football world by being one of the Tigers' best in their 27-point season-opening win over the wayward-kicking Blues at the MCG.
The West Australian from Pinjarra, about 86 kilometres south of Perth and well known for its trotting club, had 23 touches, including a sizzling goal in the second term when he dashed away from his opponent Chris Judd and kick-started the Tigers' resurgence.
His run and carry were key factors in the win, and - provided he can handle the greater opposition analysis expected to come his way - McIntosh will add more depth to the midfield.
"I have always dreamt of playing like this and playing in front of a crowd like that," McIntosh said.
"I was pretty nervous at the start, going out for the warm-up. I just tried to soak it all up but, as the game went on I just tried to clear my thoughts and play the way we play."
Despite two injury-cursed seasons, the Tigers handed McIntosh a one-year contract extension last year, believing he had the tools to help the team grow.
"I feel I am definitely ready. My first year didn't go the way I wanted it to. I ended up having shoulder surgery towards the back end of the season and then in my second year I ended up having my appendix taken out in round six and missed a couple of weeks there," he said.
"I played one game back and had foot surgery. Pretty much my whole second season I didn't play a whole lot of footy.
"Then I had a whole pre-season this year, up and going and no injuries, so I feel like I was pretty ready for it."
He certainly was ready for it, highlighted when he sharked a pack and stormed away from Judd to boot the Tigers' fourth goal at a time when the Blues had led by almost four goals. The Tigers controlled the match from that moment.
"Growing up I barracked for Carlton, to be honest. To play on Juddy, I idolised him as a kid growing up when he was with West Coast and when he changed to Carlton," McIntosh said.
"To line up on Juddy was a pretty big thrill but, yeah, I just tried to play our way and do what I do best. I ended up kicking a 'snag' on him."
McIntosh had also been busy pre-match organising tickets for his family, for he had six sisters, two brothers and his parents to think of. However, while four weren't able to make the game from Perth, he was delighted to meet his three-month old nephew, Kobi, for the first time.
There were also other things on mind, for he turned 21 on Friday. There was to be a family celebration on Friday night, and another with his friends and teammates on Saturday.
Skipper Trent Cotchin provided some pertinent advice after being named in the team.
"He said to maybe switch off your phone, which I did (on Wednesday night) because I was getting bombarded with a few calls. I just wanted to clear my head and not think about the game too much because so much was already going on," McIntosh said.
"'Cotchy' also said: 'Just stay calm, it's just another game, do what you have been doing through the NAB Cup.' He was real wise with what he said."
Having converted from soccer at the age of 15, McIntosh - a second-round draft selection in 2012 - has enjoyed a relatively rapid rise. Now comes the task of replicating his deeds against the Western Bulldogs on Saturday, where the Tigers may not have Brett Deledio, who was reported for a heavy hit on Simon White inside the opening minute.
Deledio was substituted out of the game in the final term, with the Tigers wary of his ongoing Achilles issue. He diligently iced the region as soon as he returned to the dressing room.
Coach Damien Hardwick opted to not judge the incident with White but was delighted how his team fought back through the efforts of McIntosh and others such as Brandon Ellis and Taylor Hunt.
"We probably tried to move the ball a little bit too aggressively at the start in the pressure of the game. Carlton, to their credit, came out and hit us pretty hard early, but the great thing for our footy club and a sign of the maturity of our group is that they took that," Hardwick said.
"We were well behind on the scoreboard and we started to turn the game our way. It's a great sign of our maturity and the evolving leadership of our group."
http://www.theage.com.au/afl/afl-news/richmond-tigers-debutant-knew-he-was-ready-for-big-league-20150403-1me3br.html
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Kamdyn McIntosh announces himself on AFL stage against Carlton and his idol Chris Judd
Glenn McFarlane
Herald Sun
April 04, 2015
KAMDYN McIntosh grew up in Pinjarra — just under an hour’s drive south of Perth — barracking for Carlton and idolising Chris Judd.
On Thursday night, on the other side of the country, and on football’s opening night, the Blues had access-all-area MCG tickets to one of the best Richmond debuts of recent seasons.
McIntosh made up for lost time after two frustrating years with injuries by running himself to the point of exhaustion as he lived out his childhood dream.
His parents were there to witness it, among the 83,493 at the MCG, as well as four of his siblings and a baby nephew he had just met. Four other siblings couldn’t make the trip across the Nullarbor, but were glued to the game on television.
And a rowdy gathering of McIntosh’s mates at his close friend Jett’s place in Pinjarra combined for a BBQ and a few beers as the locals toasted his success.
Making it even more memorable was the fact that McIntosh’s first game came the day before his 21st birthday.
“I’ve always dreamt of playing in front of a crowd like that,” McIntosh said after gathering 23 touches, kicking a goal and adding an early season SuperCoach bonus for those who took the punt on him after a strong NAB Challenge campaign.
“I was pretty nervous at the start when I went out for the warm-up, but then I just tried to soak it up. As the game went on, I just tried to clear my thoughts.”
His captain Trent Cotchin advised him to turn his mobile phone off on Wednesday to stop being “bombarded” by goodwill text messages. He will work through those over the coming days.
McIntosh, who was drafted at pick 31 in 2012, and former Cat Taylor Hunt were both impressive in their first games for the Tigers, giving great run as their team finished all over the top of the Blues, to win by 27 points.
“I barracked for Carlton, to be honest, and to play (for a time) on Juddy (who) I idolised as a kid when I was growing up,” he said.
“I ended up kicking a snag on him, so that was good.
“My first year (at Richmond) didn’t go the way that I wanted; I ended up having shoulder surgery towards the back end of the year.
“(Last year) I ended up having my appendix out in Round 6, and missed a few weeks. I had one game back and had foot surgery, so I didn’t play a lot of footy then.
“But I had the full pre-season this year, and was up and going. I just felt like I was ready for it.”
He had a family gathering for his 21st birthday yesterday, and will catch up with his “other family” — the Richmond players — tonight.
But instead of basking on what was on Thursday night, the powerfully-built midfielder has already cast his mind forward to next Saturday’s clash with Western Bulldogs, and trying to replicate another good performance.
“I’ve just got to get my body right this week and my recovery and go from there,” he said. “We’ve just got to prepare for the next game now.”
Teammate Chris Newman praised McIntosh’s composure and work rate as the keys to his strong performance on the big stage.
“We’re rapt for him,” Newman said yesterday. “It’s one thing to come out and play well in your first game. The occasion of having it in Round 1, on the big stage, he really took to it really well.
“He’s one of those guys who’s got a huge work rate. He just sort of turns up all the time. He’s really hard to play on. He runs up and down all day.
“He’s had his best pre-season so far, and it’s great to see him get some reward and put together a solid performance.”
http://www.theaustralian.com.au/sport/afl-new/kamdyn-mcintosh-announces-himself-on-afl-stage-against-carlton-and-his-idol-chris-judd/story-fnlpeek0-1227290665910
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Maybe Newman needs to take a few lessons from young Kamdyn and lift his own work rate.
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Maybe Newman needs to take a few lessons from young Kamdyn and lift his own work rate.
Needs a motorized wheelchair.
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A bigger, quicker, faster and stronger version of Tuck?
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Before the biscuit gets too soggy can I just say Dean Polo.
Let's see him put together a season before we judge.
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Before the biscuit gets too soggy can I just say Dean Polo.
Let's see him put together a season before we judge.
If he rocks up next week with a leopard skin hair style I'm outta here!
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Before the biscuit gets too soggy can I just say Dean Polo.
Let's see him put together a season before we judge.
i agree. in fact shouldnt we be expecting some bad games out of him for gods sake hes played just one afl game.
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Maybe Newman needs to take a few lessons from young Kamdyn and lift his own work rate.
Needs a motorized wheelchair.
coming from a highly esteemed member of the medical profession I find this to be a bit disappointing. Im sure all the old people on motorized scooters wont be impressed. ;D
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Got the Rising Star nomination, awesome The Tosh...... :clapping :clapping :bow
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Very well deserved.
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2 year contract for the kid ;D
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Tiger's dream debut rewarded with Rising Star nod
Travis King
afl.com.au
April 6, 2015 7:58 PM
KAMDYN McIntosh's memorable debut has reached fairytale proportions, with the Richmond midfielder named the round one NAB AFL Rising Star nominee.
On the eve of his 21st birthday, McIntosh celebrated his first senior game by playing an instrumental role in the Tigers' 27-point win over arch-rival Carlton in the season-opener at the MCG on Thursday night.
The West Australian, who had to wait until his third season at Punt Road to make his debut, gathered 23 touches – eight contested – took nine marks and booted a crucial goal to ignite his teammates' surge to victory.
With the Blues in control and on top by 21 points midway through the second term, McIntosh burnt off his idol Chris Judd, roved a marking contest and split the big sticks from 40m.
It was the turning point for the Tigers, who piled on seven unanswered goals to set up the round one triumph in front of 83,493 fans.
"I'm pretty rattled that I played as good as I did," McIntosh said post-match.
"I've always dreamt of something like this and to play in front of a crowd like that. I was pretty nervous at the start.
"Growing up I barracked for Carlton. To play on Juddy – I idolised him as a kid growing up when he was at West Coast and then when he changed to Carlton – so to line-up on Juddy was a pretty big thrill."
Making the occasion even more special was that McIntosh's family – including three-month old nephew, Kobi, who he had never met - travelled to watch the match.
"I ended up getting nine tickets, but I still had four siblings who didn't come over," said the Pinjarra product, who received the Rising Star news while at dinner with his relatives on Monday night.
"I've got six sisters and two brothers. Then I got my parents to come over too. It was good fun."
McIntosh, who was the 31st pick in the 2012 draft, said his debut felt like a long time coming after shoulder surgery derailed the latter part of his 2013 season.
He then had his appendix removed and battled a foot stress fracture last year.
"My first year didn't go the way I wanted it to … pretty much my whole second year I didn't play a whole lot of footy," he said.
"But then I had a full pre-season this year, up and going, (with) no injuries so I feel like I was pretty ready for it."
The 192cm winger, who played soccer until he was 15, is Richmond's seventh Rising Star nominee since coach Damien Hardwick took the reins in 2010.
He follows in the footsteps of Dustin Martin, Reece Conca, Jake Batchelor, Dylan Grimes, Brandon Ellis and Nick Vlastuin.
http://www.afl.com.au/news/2015-04-06/tigers-dream-debut-continues
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McIntosh's press conference today:
VIDEO: http://www.richmondfc.com.au/video/2015-04-07/mcintosh-press-conference-april-7th
* It’s just one game, so definitely next week I’m going to need to show up and perform how I did on the weekend. But if I put a few more games like that together, I think I can hold my spot in the team. It’s just a matter of going through each week and performing at that AFL standard; not dropping off and staying there as much as I can.
* It was my first full pre-season I’ve done this year. I felt a lot of confidence this year going into the NAB Cup. I think that was a terrific lead-up against Carlton. It was just good to get that first game and hopefully go forward from there.
* The publicity is expected because you’ve got all your friends back home seeing you in the paper and that sort of thing, saying congratulations and things like that, so there is a little bit. But to me, I’m still going to go through each week. This has been my first highlighted season so far, so it’s all still new to me to be highlighted in games. It’s only a once-off game, so far on Thursday, so I hope to see myself there in the near future and to be consistent, but time will tell.
Full article: http://www.richmondfc.com.au/news/2015-04-07/mcintosh-staying-grounded
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Early days but he has so many skillsets we lack in.
Pace being the most obvious one. If he kicks on from here well... :pray
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I'm gonna put it out there.....is it not possible for him to bring home Chas?
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Not if his game on Thursday doesn't even get him into the AFL Team of the Week.
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I'm gonna put it out there.....is it not possible for him to bring home Chas?
Depends how good looking Chas is and how his parents feel about it! ;)
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Not if his game on Thursday doesn't even get him into the AFL Team of the Week.
I think that guy who named the team is a melbourne supporter
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Early days but he has so many skillsets we lack in.
Pace being the most obvious one. If he kicks on from here well... :pray
i think you mean physical attributes. pace size motor are physical. kicking marking smarts etc are skills. hes well rounded and he should be a decent player. seems he had another good one today.
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Early days but he has so many skillsets we lack in.
Pace being the most obvious one. If he kicks on from here well... :pray
i think you mean physical attributes. pace size motor are physical. kicking marking smarts etc are skills. hes well rounded and he should be a decent player. seems he had another good one today.
why didnt he play last year ...
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Early days but he has so many skillsets we lack in.
Pace being the most obvious one. If he kicks on from here well... :pray
i think you mean physical attributes. pace size motor are physical. kicking marking smarts etc are skills. hes well rounded and he should be a decent player. seems he had another good one today.
why didnt he play last year ...
struggled with injuries and continuity.
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This lad is what the Tigers have needed for years & he has worked hard & stepped up to the next level. He has a excellent penetrating kicking style which is accurate so that the players can run into the area & mark the ball under pressure. Since Tuck & Kingy have gone l will back this guy for big things to come. :thumbsup good game last night again. Rising Star of the year award :thumbsup
:gotigers
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In that last quarter when he smothered that kick on our half-forward line then tackled the bloke over the line. Was a great moment.
Wish some of our other blokes would look at that effort and replicate it. Run AT the man instead of conceding ground by applying 'perceived pressure'.
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Early days but he has so many skillsets we lack in.
Pace being the most obvious one. If he kicks on from here well... :pray
i think you mean physical attributes. pace size motor are physical. kicking marking smarts etc are skills. hes well rounded and he should be a decent player. seems he had another good one today.
why didnt he play last year ...
struggled with injuries and continuity.
so injuries and not being able to string games together counts for some but not others? i thought it was years in the system only that counted?
FWIW, im liking what i am seeing with Kamdyn, but once again it seems different criteria applied to different players.
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Remember K-Mac is from WA.
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Aaaaaaaaahhhhhh that explains it
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Early days but he has so many skillsets we lack in.
Pace being the most obvious one. If he kicks on from here well... :pray
i think you mean physical attributes. pace size motor are physical. kicking marking smarts etc are skills. hes well rounded and he should be a decent player. seems he had another good one today.
why didnt he play last year ...
struggled with injuries and continuity.
so injuries and not being able to string games together counts for some but not others? i thought it was years in the system only that counted?
FWIW, im liking what i am seeing with Kamdyn, but once again it seems different criteria applied to different players.
I can tell you now your opinion, Its not worth much lol. You sure make yourself look silly without anyones help. Still being mr disingenuity i see. Word of advice, it will only take you so far.
I suppose when thats all you have you have to stick to it..
So what is the new troll theme your trying on here?? Ah applying different criteria to different players. How long you going to try and persist with that one. Its funny just watching.
You really need to stop spending all your time focusing on other posters and trying to score points,it makes you look churlish. Start watching the players and their attributes Al, you may get a few things right for a change HHHHaaaarrrrrggghhhh.
You also really need to learn the difference between plenty of time on a list with opportunity, and limited time on a list with limited opportunity.
I know its hard for you but im sure even you can figure that one out. You can see the difference between 4 yrs and 30 or so games and 2 yrs and no games?? Obviously not just too busy trying to score points.
You really should learn where to pick your battles, If your going to consistently play the man,troll and be disingenous all the time. Having a go on a thread where you have bagged out a player whos proved you wrong, really isnt the place. Thats just not smart.
So you like what you see, thats golden. You wanted him gone after just 2 injury riddled seasons and 0 games. Oh dear oh dear.
Unlike you i was going to say nothing further on this, but you had to have a go. The way you try to bag me on this site id say im entitled to dine out on this for months yrs even.
unlike you and some others i dont feel the need to have to constantly put people down because they dared voice an opinioN or because i simply dislike em.. we all have opinions and we all get em wrong especially when it comes to junior footballers.
You have let your dislike of a poster get in the way of common sense again. i really do wonder are you here on this site to talk footy or just troll other posters with half truths and innuendo.
What is patently clear on this thread you are incapable of being magnaminous in any way. my wife calls that little fella syndrome.
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No matter how long you make your posts, twisting and turning, it doesnt change the fact that when it comes to griffiths you said it was not important in terms of development that he had missed a large chunk of time not playing, because he was injured.
Then with Kamdyn you trot out exactly that as to why he hasn't been playing earlier.
that cant be changed, hidden, or twisted into anything else. That is a contradiction, and applying different criteria to different players to suit your preconceptions. Its called Confirmation bias, and while we all do it to some extent, some take it to extremes.
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Now as for you saying that I am " mr disingenuity" and then say
You wanted him gone after just 2 injury riddled seasons and 0 games. Oh dear oh dear.
is once again, dare i say, differing standards, because this claim is an outright lie. Why make things like this up? Dear oh dear indeed!!
What is clear, is that you love nothing more than dishing out criticism to those who will never defend themselves, but cannot take any back.
I dont have a dislike for you, don't flatter yourself. I don't have any personal feelings towards you at all, and i certainly don't hate people because I have differing opinions...
But you constantly ram your opinions down our throats as if you are some sage of the game, yet you often contradict yourself and fill in the gaps with bull crap, so I like to call you out on your bull crap and contradictions every now and then. Believe me, I let a lot go.
Why is it that you think you are above being scutinised for what you say?
Why should we just all accept you self declared infinite wisdom as if it is gospel without question?
I'll tell you something for nothing, the more opinionated someone is, and louder and more constantly they share those opinions with the world, the more they will have what they say scutinised, and no one, least of all you, is correct all of the time.
Id be thinking perhaps it you that needs to be a little more magnanimou, and a little less narcissistic
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No matter how long you make your posts, twisting and turning, it doesnt change the fact that when it comes to griffiths you said it was not important in terms of development that he had missed a large chunk of time not playing, because he was injured.
Then with Kamdyn you trot out exactly that as to why he hasn't been playing earlier.
that cant be changed, hidden, or twisted into anything else. That is a contradiction, and applying different criteria to different players to suit your preconceptions. Its called Confirmation bias, and while we all do it to some extent, some take it to extremes.
hhhaaarrrgghhh hhhhaaarrrrgggghhh hhhhhaaaarrrrggghhhhhh its comedy capers.poor al i really feel sorry for ya.you feeling just a tad butt hurt pal
lets get rid of mcintosh hes no good.thats golden all golden.
oh and al dont you think its taking it just a tad far contacting me thru a pm and when i politely reply take more cheap shots. mate you cant let it go.its golden.
you can say what you like but your butt hurt and it shows keep em coming its hilarious. whats with crying like a baby when others play by the rules you employ, it doesnt get any better.cry wolf sort of fits.
al you know what kamdyn says hello. hhhhaaaarrrrgggghhhhhh.
i may keep this going im having too much fun.
now cmon keep the comedy coming you know you cant let it go.
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No matter how long you make your posts, twisting and turning, it doesnt change the fact that when it comes to griffiths you said it was not important in terms of development that he had missed a large chunk of time not playing, because he was injured.
Then with Kamdyn you trot out exactly that as to why he hasn't been playing earlier.
that cant be changed, hidden, or twisted into anything else. That is a contradiction, and applying different criteria to different players to suit your preconceptions. Its called Confirmation bias, and while we all do it to some extent, some take it to extremes.
hhhaaarrrgghhh hhhhaaarrrrgggghhh hhhhhaaaarrrrggghhhhhh its comedy capers.poor al i really feel sorry for ya.you feeling just a tad butt hurt pal
lets get rid of mcintosh hes no good.thats golden all golden.
oh and al dont you think its taking it just a tad far contacting me thru a pm and when i politely reply take more cheap shots. mate you cant let it go.its golden.
you can say what you like but your butt hurt and it shows keep em coming its hilarious. whats with crying like a baby when others play by the rules you employ, it doesnt get any better.cry wolf sort of fits.
al you know what kamdyn says hello. hhhhaaaarrrrgggghhhhhh.
i may keep this going im having too much fun.
now cmon keep the comedy coming you know you cant let it go.
That's nice however do you have any comment on the double standards?
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Is any other kid even a chance of the rising star over Isaac Heeney. It seems fait accompli that he'll win the award. So much hype.
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Is any other kid even a chance of the rising star over Isaac Heeney. It seems fait accompli that he'll win the award. So much hype.
Is so much hype, have you seen how good this kid is?? guy is a freak!!
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No matter how long you make your posts, twisting and turning, it doesnt change the fact that when it comes to griffiths you said it was not important in terms of development that he had missed a large chunk of time not playing, because he was injured.
Then with Kamdyn you trot out exactly that as to why he hasn't been playing earlier.
that cant be changed, hidden, or twisted into anything else. That is a contradiction, and applying different criteria to different players to suit your preconceptions. Its called Confirmation bias, and while we all do it to some extent, some take it to extremes.
hhhaaarrrgghhh hhhhaaarrrrgggghhh hhhhhaaaarrrrggghhhhhh its comedy capers.poor al i really feel sorry for ya.you feeling just a tad butt hurt pal
lets get rid of mcintosh hes no good.thats golden all golden.
oh and al dont you think its taking it just a tad far contacting me thru a pm and when i politely reply take more cheap shots. mate you cant let it go.its golden.
you can say what you like but your butt hurt and it shows keep em coming its hilarious. whats with crying like a baby when others play by the rules you employ, it doesnt get any better.cry wolf sort of fits.
al you know what kamdyn says hello. hhhhaaaarrrrgggghhhhhh.
i may keep this going im having too much fun.
now cmon keep the comedy coming you know you cant let it go.
That's nice however do you have any comment on the double standards?
in a word no :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol.
now get along with you im sure al is big enough to fight his own battles, no need for you to hold his hot little hand. hhhhaaarrrrgggghhhh
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And can I suggest that you keep your personal feud off the forum and stick to the topic :banghead
Will not edit at this stage but keep going down that path and things will be removed
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And can I suggest that you keep your personal feud off the forum and stick to the topic :banghead
Will not edit at this stage but keep going down that path and things will be removed
:thumbsup
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We should start a Richmond academy like the Swans
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And can I suggest that you keep your personal feud off the forum and stick to the topic :banghead
Will not edit at this stage but keep going down that path and things will be removed
They are debating a topic and the different ways of looking at that topic - is that not allowed?
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They are debating a topic and the different ways of looking at that topic - is that not allowed?
Yes they can debate all they like as long as they stick too the topic
but when it resorts to this
hhhaaarrrgghhh hhhhaaarrrrgggghhh hhhhhaaaarrrrggghhhhhh its comedy capers.poor al i really feel sorry for ya.you feeling just a tad butt hurt pal
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...oh and al dont you think its taking it just a tad far contacting me thru a pm and when i politely reply take more cheap shots. mate you cant let it go.its golden....
you can say what you like but your butt hurt and it shows keep em coming its hilarious. whats with crying like a baby when others play by the rules you employ, it doesnt get any better.cry wolf sort of fits....
... hhhhaaaarrrrgggghhhhhh.
i may keep this going im having too much fun.....
Then that is getting personal with cheap shots, insults and clearly bringing a personal feud onto the forum
it is exactly the the sort of stuff we were talking about the other week when we put up the poll about should we issue harsher penalties
People should not have to wade through that to get to the topic
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I agree that there is way too much pointless banter clogging up the threads.
As for Kamdyn, Real shot at rising star I reckon but that bloke from Sydney will be right up there too.
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Not worried about whatever names claw calls me, its just a deflection from addressing the double standards, as pointed out.
I would, though, appreciate a highlight of where I said McIntosh should be delisted?
This is simply a lie that he has made up and now repeated.
And just for the record, the PM was nothing to do with this discussion what so ever, nor was there any animosity either way.
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Albertooooooooooo
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All this banter is making me miss Coach.
:lol
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Since Kamdyn's first game i think he has become a very important player for us. He seems to have strong clean hands overhead and generally makes the right decisions with the ball. There are players in the side where at times i cover my eyes as they just worry me with their decision making and execution but he isn't in my view one of those. And the best thing is that he just runs all game and his second efforts make him hard to beat one on one, a very good inclusion to the 2015 side.
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Thing I like about it him is that he is always moving at pace directly towards our goal.
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Love this bloke. Already one of my favourite players haha
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I welcome the guy but disposal sometimes is a liability.....but then again, so is Lids.
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Has a real crack and has some dash about him too, was a bit untidy on Friday , generally better than that , only 10 games into his afl career , tracking well :clapping
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Like him. He's got some mongrel, and if my eyes weren't deceiving me, he tackled Fyfe near the boundary and stopped him dead. Deceptively strong.
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Kam is a pretty big unit, the more games we get him the better, he is going to be a stuffing ball tearer imho. He is still a bit raw but the rough edges will get knocked off. listed at 192cm, 89kg, nice size, doesn't squib anything.
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He is very good at tackling. Noticed his tackles stick.
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:shh
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One of Richmond’s 2015 success stories, Kamdyn McIntosh, has signed a two-year contract extension with the Club.
The 21-year-old, who has played every game this season so far, will remain a Tiger until at least the end of the 2017 season.
“We have always believed in Kamdyn’s ability to make an impact at AFL level,” said Richmond’s General Manager of Football, Dan Richardson.
“He has been unlucky with some injuries over the last few seasons, but he has worked extremely hard to get himself ready for an opportunity at AFL level.
“It’s pleasing to see him get some continuity in his football, and make an important contribution to the team each week.
“It will be exciting watching him develop over the course of his career, and we look forward to seeing many more games from him in Tiger colours.”
Full article: http://www.richmondfc.com.au/news/2015-06-26/a-couple-more-for-kamdyn
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:clapping Well deserved
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Now that's out of the way Cam, get back to playing!!!! :clapping
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Keep,applying yourself, young fella.
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Great news, very happy with this news :clapping
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Yes very happy with that news
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....and the club has celebrated by naming him as the sub....
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:shh
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Macca's soccer skills down the outer wing ...
VIDEO: http://www.richmondfc.com.au/video/2015-08-29/round-22-kamdyns-soccer-skills
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:shh
:shh :shh
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Has been a revelation this year. Had a great couple of weeks,
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Been an unbelievable year for Kamdyn :cheers Love watching him run all day and boy he is good over head :clapping
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Has been a revelation this year. Had a great couple of weeks,
Yep. I was worried he was hitting the wall 4 weeks ago but looks fresh. He's quite un-Richmond like being big, hard and fast. One of my favourites.
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Showing Ellis you can be an elite running outside player and still be tough and hard. Love seeing him get into players, always gives them a cheeky push as they are getting up
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A good tackler as well.
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started the year really well, thought he had a lull in the middle but the last few weeks he is getting right into it again. he has had a really good season IMHO. A 200 game player for us.
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Noice.
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Overall a little disappointed. There are areas he just has to do better in.
Hasnt stayed involved enough and for a mid is not finding enough ball. Needs to find another notch if he is to become a top player.
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Overall a little disappointed. There are areas he just has to do better in.
Hasnt stayed involved enough and for a mid is not finding enough ball. Needs to find another notch if he is to become a top player.
Hold on, this was basically his first year of footy.
No doubt he can get better in a number of areas (as all young players can), but were you seriously "disappointed" with what he produced this year?
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Overall a little disappointed. There are areas he just has to do better in.
Hasnt stayed involved enough and for a mid is not finding enough ball. Needs to find another notch if he is to become a top player.
Hold on, this was basically his first year of footy.
Exactly
Outside of being a first year player people should also consider what his role given to him by his coaches was. Did he fulfill that that?
Answer is yes, as every coach I've spoken to said so. His outside gut running is an abvious strengthe and they wanted him to use that and he did they way they wanted
So he had a very good first year season, he will improve
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*4th year player
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*4th year player
on our list yes, he's been injured each year until this year tho so was prob knackered at the end of the year, another full pre season & he'll be even better next year
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*4th year player
Actually 2015 was his third on the list
But it was the first season he actually played in the AFL
He is going into his 4th season now
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He's currently training for fourth season
Let's drop the first year player crap
Agreed with who ever said he's played out of position.
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Good footballer..
Needs a good coach
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He's currently training for fourth season
Let's drop the first year player crap
There is a massive difference between training and playing
Just like there is a huge gap between the standard of AFL & VFL
Facts are in his first 2 seasons he had significant injuries and didn't play AFL football. That's not crap that is fact
2015 is the first year in his 3 years on the list he played senior football; that's also a fact
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Overall a little disappointed. There are areas he just has to do better in.
Hasnt stayed involved enough and for a mid is not finding enough ball. Needs to find another notch if he is to become a top player.
Hold on, this was basically his first year of footy.
No doubt he can get better in a number of areas (as all young players can), but were you seriously "disappointed" with what he produced this year?
This was his third year in the system. physically a fully developed big bodied player.
15 disposals a game is not good enough. He did go missing for big chunks in a lot of games. Call it a lack of experience or what ever you want but it is something that has to be improved upon.
Yes at times i was just a little disappointed with his output.I think it is a legit criticism of his year and it is something we should want him to improve upon.
I was one of few who insisted he could play a bit but like all of our players if i think they need to improve in areas i say so.
Personally i think he should be playing across h/b i have always thought that to be the case.
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This was his third year in the system. physically a fully developed big bodied player.
With respect last pre season was the first full one he had done. I would say he is not a fully developed big bodied player
Very hard to be able to all drills at training when you are on restricted program because of injury
Hard to put miles in the legs when you've got a serious foot injury and you're not able to run
Not sure how you can do weights when you have a shoulder injury
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Overall a little disappointed. There are areas he just has to do better in.
Hasnt stayed involved enough and for a mid is not finding enough ball. Needs to find another notch if he is to become a top player.
Hold on, this was basically his first year of footy.
No doubt he can get better in a number of areas (as all young players can), but were you seriously "disappointed" with what he produced this year?
This was his third year in the system. physically a fully developed big bodied player.
15 disposals a game is not good enough. He did go missing for big chunks in a lot of games. Call it a lack of experience or what ever you want but it is something that has to be improved upon.
Yes at times i was just a little disappointed with his output.I think it is a legit criticism of his year and it is something we should want him to improve upon.
I was one of few who insisted he could play a bit but like all of our players if i think they need to improve in areas i say so.
Personally i think he should be playing across h/b i have always thought that to be the case.
Fair 'nuff. Still think "disappointing" is harsh but whatevs.
You did back him as a draftee, so credit for that.
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This was his third year in the system. physically a fully developed big bodied player.
With respect last pre season was the first full one he had done. I would say he is not a fully developed big bodied player
Very hard to be able to all drills at training when you are on restricted program because of injury
Hard to put miles in the legs when you've got a serious foot injury and you're not able to run
Not sure how you can do weights when you have a shoulder injury
Wth respect at 191cm and 90kg he wont get any bigger he is at his playing weight.Physically he is developed.
With respect injurys occured late in both 2013 where he didnt play after round 18 with a shoulder and 2014 where he missed from round 14 to round 20 and played the last couple of rounds.. As far as im aware i dont believe either injury greatly prevented him from having decent preseasons.
This season he was picked to play on a wing he clearly had the miles in his legs to play there in fact at times he was one of few who had the ability or maybe it was the inclination to run both ways.
Look i really like him as a player i always have all i have done is point out a few areas he really needs to get better at.
We dont want him sitting back and thinking i have made it, he is far from it. I hope the club is challenging him to be better and actually point out areas he must work on.
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Lucky we have crawski to keep players feet firmly on the ground >:(
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:lol
how many players average much more that 15 possessions in their first 20 odd games?
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:lol
how many players average much more that 15 possessions in their first 20 odd games?
21 yr olds playing on a wing in their third season who are physically near their peak, most i would say. But hey i have expectations of all our players and am never satisified with mediocrity.
We aren't talking about some skinny little runt here who takes 5 years to get physically up to speed.
Nothing ever really changes with you blokes. You talk about improvement and the need for it but in reality are satisfied with plain old average. If your happy for our mids to get 15 disposals a game fine, but some of us want to win a premiership in our life times.
McIntosh needs to get better like a lot of our players do if we are to become a top 4 side. I dont know too many people who think differently to that. Obviously you do otherwise you would not be arguing the point.
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The pace of the game takes a bit of getting used to as is following relatively complex game plans for the first time.
Taking both of those things into account, Kam had a very hood first season in the seniors.
He has the tools to improve too, and needs to.
Well done Kam!!!
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:lol
how many players average much more that 15 possessions in their first 20 odd games?
21 yr olds playing on a wing in their third season who are physically near their peak, most i would say. But hey i have expectations of all our players and am never satisified with mediocrity.
We aren't talking about some skinny little runt here who takes 5 years to get physically up to speed.
Nothing ever really changes with you blokes. You talk about improvement and the need for it but in reality are satisfied with plain old average. If your happy for our mids to get 15 disposals a game fine, but some of us want to win a premiership in our life times.
McIntosh needs to get better like a lot of our players do if we are to become a top 4 side. I dont know too many people who think differently to that. Obviously you do otherwise you would not be arguing the point.
You're basing his performance (or lack thereof) entirely on his weight and age.
Many players are a good weight but aren't physically mature yet. Their physique continues to change until they retire, even if their weight stays the same.
Kam still has physical maturing to do IMO, and has only played one season of AFL-level football. He will improve, but you're being harsh on him. VFL and AFL aint the same!
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Yep, there is a difference between expecting a player to improve and being disappointed in someones performance. They do not automatically go hand in hand and in fact most people can be relatively happy with a kids performance because it's their first year but want them to get better.
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If you say he is a first year player often enough
It might come true
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If you say he is a first year player often enough
It might come true
It's his first year in the senior team and playing senior AFL footy. Do you disagree?
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If you say he is a first year player often enough
It might come true
By that same token I would argue that the following players haven't done enough to please me:
Ben Lennon
Liam McBean
Todd Elton
How about we delist them all?
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If you say he is a first year player often enough
It might come true
By that same token I would argue that the following players haven't done enough to please me:
Ben Lennon
Liam McBean
Todd Elton
How about we delist them all?
Oh, Andrew
Can u find anyone saying delist Mcintosh
Pack Of extremists you blokes...
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If you say he is a first year player often enough
It might come true
By that same token I would argue that the following players haven't done enough to please me:
Ben Lennon
Liam McBean
Todd Elton
How about we delist them all?
Oh, Andrew
Can u find anyone saying delist Mcintosh
Pack Of extremists you blokes...
can you find anyone saying it's his first year on the list?
You've been twisting words as much as anyone around here.
We've just said it was his first year of senior footy. That's true and significant.
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I've read first year repeatedly.
The fact is the current he's training for will be the 4th on the senior list
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I've read first year repeatedly.
The fact is the current he's training for will be the 4th on the senior list
Yeah, you have heard first year repeatedly - first year of senior footy.....
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Actually interesting to watch his work rate. I get claw's point about him needing to get it a bit more. (Though it does come across negatively the way claw says it.)
However the number of times Kam is deep in defence either offering an outlet or sweeping when there has been a turnover downfield is immense. (Note: B. Ellis is huge at this as well.) A hit up half forward (B. Lennon and Lids) is needed. The guys deep in the defensive 50 need a trusted hitup player to offer the "release". Oleg, Lennon and Lids have the speed and/or marking ability to provide that. Then add Yarran, Houli, Menadue, etc. sweeping past and we will look very, very slick at times.
The Freo and Hawks games from this season show that we can do it. Just need a little more leg speed. Ohh and Corey. The first quarter vs Freo. ;D ;D ;D
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If you say he is a first year player often enough
It might come true
By that same token I would argue that the following players haven't done enough to please me:
Ben Lennon
Liam McBean
Todd Elton
How about we delist them all?
Oh, Andrew
Can u find anyone saying delist Mcintosh
Pack Of extremists you blokes...
I was being facetious you knuckle-dragger.
But since the intent was lost on you I'll spell it out clearly.
If you're going to be critical of McIntosh because it's not his first year then what do you think of the aforementioned players?
I think Kam is doing a great job. Disposal needs tidying up. Work rate is exemplary. Has a lot of dash and is a very attacking footballer.
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Lol at things that never change. One thing that never changes is apologists for mediocrity.
We have a great big lumping lad who can run hard all day, He is Physically up to it has anyone seen him rag doll opposition in tackles OR SEEN HIM STRUGGLE IN THE PHYSICAL STAKES.
Yes he is young and inexperienced and there is HOPEFULLY A LOT OF UPSIDE STILL.
Fact is, he is an established player coming into year 4 and quite frankly 15 disposals a game is not good enough for any player regardless of age playing on a wing.
YOU lot you always defend defend defend the undefendable. We want. No we really need our players to be challenged. Most of them are poor in areas and they have to show they can get better. The expectation has to be they get better. If they cant then pee them off asap.
All i hear is Kamdyn had a great year. Well hello he didn't. He had an okay year for where he has come from and his relative experience.He has a lot of areas that he really has to work on and the vibe from you lot is na no he doesnt.
Iam not beating up on this guy i really like him as a player but he needs to get better.He does have areas he needs to work on. Basically that is all i have said.
It will be interesting to see what happens next year. there are some traits you really need to have, to be a good mid. Playing there is not all about running power and pace. Ihave never thought of Kamdyn as a mid. Imo he was always a running defender and im asking is his inability to find a lot of ball a learning thing and an indication that he is not a natural mid and that indeed his right position is coming of h/b. We will never know, because while the bozoes in charge have thrown players all over the shop mainly to the players detriment, they steadfastly refuse to play some players in natural positions.
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Lol at things that never change. One thing that never changes is apologists for mediocrity.
We have a great big lumping lad who can run hard all day, He is Physically up to it has anyone seen him rag doll opposition in tackles OR SEEN HIM STRUGGLE IN THE PHYSICAL STAKES.
Yes he is young and inexperienced and there is HOPEFULLY A LOT OF UPSIDE STILL.
Fact is, he is an established player coming into year 4 and quite frankly 15 disposals a game is not good enough for any player regardless of age playing on a wing.
YOU lot you always defend defend defend the undefendable. We want. No we really need our players to be challenged. Most of them are poor in areas and they have to show they can get better. The expectation has to be they get better. If they cant then pee them off asap.
All i hear is Kamdyn had a great year. Well hello he didn't. He had an okay year for where he has come from and his relative experience.He has a lot of areas that he really has to work on and the vibe from you lot is na no he doesnt.
Iam not beating up on this guy i really like him as a player but he needs to get better.He does have areas he needs to work on. Basically that is all i have said.
It will be interesting to see what happens next year. there are some traits you really need to have, to be a good mid. Playing there is not all about running power and pace. Ihave never thought of Kamdyn as a mid. Imo he was always a running defender and im asking is his inability to find a lot of ball a learning thing and an indication that he is not a natural mid and that indeed his right position is coming of h/b. We will never know, because while the bozoes in charge have thrown players all over the shop mainly to the players detriment, they steadfastly refuse to play some players in natural positions.
Hmm. I don't think you get it. No one is saying he can't improve. We're just saying he had a good year, given his age and experience.
Please explain how that is being an apologist for mediocrity?
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Lol at things that never change. One thing that never changes is apologists for mediocrity.
We have a great big lumping lad who can run hard all day, He is Physically up to it has anyone seen him rag doll opposition in tackles OR SEEN HIM STRUGGLE IN THE PHYSICAL STAKES.
Yes he is young and inexperienced and there is HOPEFULLY A LOT OF UPSIDE STILL.
Fact is, he is an established player coming into year 4 and quite frankly 15 disposals a game is not good enough for any player regardless of age playing on a wing.
YOU lot you always defend defend defend the undefendable. We want. No we really need our players to be challenged. Most of them are poor in areas and they have to show they can get better. The expectation has to be they get better. If they cant then pee them off asap.
All i hear is Kamdyn had a great year. Well hello he didn't. He had an okay year for where he has come from and his relative experience.He has a lot of areas that he really has to work on and the vibe from you lot is na no he doesnt.
Iam not beating up on this guy i really like him as a player but he needs to get better.He does have areas he needs to work on. Basically that is all i have said.
It will be interesting to see what happens next year. there are some traits you really need to have, to be a good mid. Playing there is not all about running power and pace. Ihave never thought of Kamdyn as a mid. Imo he was always a running defender and im asking is his inability to find a lot of ball a learning thing and an indication that he is not a natural mid and that indeed his right position is coming of h/b. We will never know, because while the bozoes in charge have thrown players all over the shop mainly to the players detriment, they steadfastly refuse to play some players in natural positions.
Hmm. I don't think you get it. No one is saying he can't improve. We're just saying he had a good year, given his age and experience.
Please explain how that is being an apologist for mediocrity?
Simple if you are good enough to play 23 games in the middle for the whole year then 15 disposals a game is I SAY IS MEDIOCRE.
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Lol at things that never change. One thing that never changes is apologists for mediocrity.
We have a great big lumping lad who can run hard all day, He is Physically up to it has anyone seen him rag doll opposition in tackles OR SEEN HIM STRUGGLE IN THE PHYSICAL STAKES.
Yes he is young and inexperienced and there is HOPEFULLY A LOT OF UPSIDE STILL.
Fact is, he is an established player coming into year 4 and quite frankly 15 disposals a game is not good enough for any player regardless of age playing on a wing.
YOU lot you always defend defend defend the undefendable. We want. No we really need our players to be challenged. Most of them are poor in areas and they have to show they can get better. The expectation has to be they get better. If they cant then pee them off asap.
All i hear is Kamdyn had a great year. Well hello he didn't. He had an okay year for where he has come from and his relative experience.He has a lot of areas that he really has to work on and the vibe from you lot is na no he doesnt.
Iam not beating up on this guy i really like him as a player but he needs to get better.He does have areas he needs to work on. Basically that is all i have said.
It will be interesting to see what happens next year. there are some traits you really need to have, to be a good mid. Playing there is not all about running power and pace. Ihave never thought of Kamdyn as a mid. Imo he was always a running defender and im asking is his inability to find a lot of ball a learning thing and an indication that he is not a natural mid and that indeed his right position is coming of h/b. We will never know, because while the bozoes in charge have thrown players all over the shop mainly to the players detriment, they steadfastly refuse to play some players in natural positions.
Hmm. I don't think you get it. No one is saying he can't improve. We're just saying he had a good year, given his age and experience.
Please explain how that is being an apologist for mediocrity?
Simple if you are good enough to play 23 games in the middle for the whole year then 15 disposals a game is I SAY IS MEDIOCRE.
OK that's what you say.
You didn't really answer my question though but whatevs.
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:lol
how many players average much more that 15 possessions in their first 20 odd games?
21 yr olds playing on a wing in their third season who are physically near their peak, most i would say. But hey i have expectations of all our players and am never satisified with mediocrity.
We aren't talking about some skinny little runt here who takes 5 years to get physically up to speed.
Nothing ever really changes with you blokes. You talk about improvement and the need for it but in reality are satisfied with plain old average. If your happy for our mids to get 15 disposals a game fine, but some of us want to win a premiership in our life times.
McIntosh needs to get better like a lot of our players do if we are to become a top 4 side. I dont know too many people who think differently to that. Obviously you do otherwise you would not be arguing the point.
name them then.
i know you wont, but that is good.
i love it when you dont back up your comments
the rest is even more mindless dribble drawing inane conclusions about what your self indulgent mind thinks rational people are actually thinking.
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Lol at things that never change. One thing that never changes is apologists for mediocrity.
We have a great big lumping lad who can run hard all day, He is Physically up to it has anyone seen him rag doll opposition in tackles OR SEEN HIM STRUGGLE IN THE PHYSICAL STAKES.
Yes he is young and inexperienced and there is HOPEFULLY A LOT OF UPSIDE STILL.
Fact is, he is an established player coming into year 4 and quite frankly 15 disposals a game is not good enough for any player regardless of age playing on a wing.
YOU lot you always defend defend defend the undefendable. We want. No we really need our players to be challenged. Most of them are poor in areas and they have to show they can get better. The expectation has to be they get better. If they cant then pee them off asap.
All i hear is Kamdyn had a great year. Well hello he didn't. He had an okay year for where he has come from and his relative experience.He has a lot of areas that he really has to work on and the vibe from you lot is na no he doesnt.
Iam not beating up on this guy i really like him as a player but he needs to get better.He does have areas he needs to work on. Basically that is all i have said.
It will be interesting to see what happens next year. there are some traits you really need to have, to be a good mid. Playing there is not all about running power and pace. Ihave never thought of Kamdyn as a mid. Imo he was always a running defender and im asking is his inability to find a lot of ball a learning thing and an indication that he is not a natural mid and that indeed his right position is coming of h/b. We will never know, because while the bozoes in charge have thrown players all over the shop mainly to the players detriment, they steadfastly refuse to play some players in natural positions.
Hmm. I don't think you get it. No one is saying he can't improve. We're just saying he had a good year, given his age and experience.
Please explain how that is being an apologist for mediocrity?
Simple if you are good enough to play 23 games in the middle for the whole year then 15 disposals a game is I SAY IS MEDIOCRE.
OK that's what you say.
You didn't really answer my question though but whatevs.
I actually thought it was an answer but hey whatevs.
Look simply put you would bring a kid for a block of games put him on a wing and see how he goes. Kamdyn at least statistically is not far beyond that. we are talking big bodied tough brute who is yes only 22. but he plays 23 games as a mid. THAT Makes him a regular regardless of age. Are you really saying to me that 15 disposals a game from a mid is acceptable. Surely it is an area that just has to be improved upon.
15 disposals a game on a wing regular or not. senior or junior 23 games for the season, hes good enough to be given 23 games ffs there has to be improvement Junior or not. Simply put it is not acceptable. He has to improve if he is to be given a REGULAR GAME.. This is not about the player it is about the team.
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lol now a bloke who has played 20 games is an established player......
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Why is this even an issue? Given where he's come from, overall, I'm very happy with what he produced this season. However, If he produced the same next season, I wouldn't be happy as I'd be expecting more improvement from Kamdyn. It's all relative..
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He's in the best 22 with some to spare. Questions of age, experience etc etc are secondary in nature.
Let the kid keep playing and see where he ends up :gotigers
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If you say he is a first year player often enough
It might come true
By that same token I would argue that the following players haven't done enough to please me:
Ben Lennon
Liam McBean
Todd Elton
How about we delist them all?
Oh, Andrew
Can u find anyone saying delist Mcintosh
Pack Of extremists you blokes...
I was being facetious you knuckle-dragger.
But since the intent was lost on you I'll spell it out clearly.
If you're going to be critical of McIntosh because it's not his first year then what do you think of the aforementioned players?
I think Kam is doing a great job. Disposal needs tidying up. Work rate is exemplary. Has a lot of dash and is a very attacking footballer.
I like kam
I like first year player ollie wines and first year player jake stringer too
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Why is this even an issue? Given where he's come from, overall, I'm very happy with what he produced this season. However, If he produced the same next season, I wouldn't be happy as I'd be expecting more improvement from Kamdyn. It's all relative..
it's an issue because of one persons irrational over the top expectations.
I think most people would be happy with where he as at, at this point of his carreer, but do expect him to improve as he gets more games and experience under his belt.
but just for poos and giggles how does he compare to the other rising star nominations from the season?
1st for total kicks
2nd for kicks per game
2nd for total uncontested possessions
3rd for total marks
3rd for total bounces
4th for total inside 50s
4th for total rebound 50s
5th total disposals
6th total effective disposals
6th total goal assists
seems like an OK base to build on to me, unless we just have a totally crap bunch of rising star noms this year.
I do wait in anticipation to see which 80 game player he will be compared with though, to prove how crap his season was.
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I think if he played for Melbourne he would be considered a dead set gun by some on here
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overall, I'm very happy with what he produced this season.
FFS stop accepting mediocrity you sheep clown!!
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overall, I'm very happy with what he produced this season.
FFS stop accepting mediocrity you sheep clown!!
What a dig
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overall, I'm very happy with what he produced this season.
FFS stop accepting mediocrity you sheep clown!!
What a dig!
Me thinks he was being a touch sarcastic with that comment my boy......
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overall, I'm very happy with what he produced this season.
FFS stop accepting mediocrity you sheep clown!!
What a dig!
Me thinks he was being a touch sarcastic with that comment my boy......
Yep needed to add one of these :sarcasm
Or
:sarcasm2
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lol at the mediocre crowd. So he doesn't need to improve and 15 disposals a game for a 21yr old third yr player is acceptable. Yep we can see where the bar is set for some of you.
Did he qualify for the rising star award i thought he was too old. But hey lets compare him against what is mainly 18 yr old first yr players most of whom are probably skinny little runts.
Yep the mediocre crowd slashing their wrists because someone suggests Kamdyns year wasnt as good as they think it is. 15 disposals is good enough for a bloke who played every game and in his third yr most people i know would not accept it.. Where i come from playing every game 23 for the year That would make him a regular this yr.Sheesh it aint rocket science but plain old common sense.
He either has areas to improve or he doesnt which is it. To me one area that has to get better is he needs to find a bit more ball. You blokes want to disagree with that great it is funny watching you lot put your head in the sand and pretend it doesnt have to get better.
Lots of potential does Kamdyn and played some okay games so far, but please lets not pretend hes there yet or doesnt have lots to work on..At the end of the day that is basically all i have said and the reactions to it from some is hilarious.Talk about precious.
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I don't think anyone here has argued that he doesn't need to improve santa.....
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I don't think anyone here has argued that he doesn't need to improve santa.....
Well what the eff are they arguing about, thats all i have basically said myself.I have had the guts to say he needs to find more ball and for a bloke playing 23 games playing in the middle at 21 yrs of age in his third season it is not good enough and must improve. Whats to argue.
What areas do they think he needs to improve. All i get here is yeah we know he needs to improve and thats it.Who here doesnt think he needs to find more ball in the role of a wingman.
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Bout twice as good as Squibb grigg
Aye Clawski?
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I don't think anyone here has argued that he doesn't need to improve santa.....
Well what the eff are they arguing about, thats all i have basically said myself.I have had the guts to say he needs to find more ball and for a bloke playing 23 games playing in the middle at 21 yrs of age in his third season it is not good enough and must improve. Whats to argue.
What areas do they think he needs to improve. All i get here is yeah we know he needs to improve and thats it.Who here doesnt think he needs to find more ball in the role of a wingman.
god you talk crap. thats not basically all you have said yourself, you even continue to say that his ouput is not up to your expectations at this point in career
Whats this bollocks about being in his third season? It's BS, that's what it is. He has played 20 odd games of senior football, yet you expect him to be getting so much more. you are not saying that simply that he needs to improve, you saying that his output is not up to what you expect now. you claim that are are many players you have better stats in similar situations but wont name them.
For some queer reason you seem to think playing senior football is not how players gain experience and improve, and therfore have unrealistic expectations of what they can achieve when get their chance.
on the other hand no one has said that he doesn't need to improve.
as you claimed. dont stoop to outright lies to justify your own stupidity.
most people with shred of understanding know that he needs to lift his output, they just know that not many players have much better stats so early in their career, nor do they expect them to do so.
While there are some players who had stats that you would find acceptable in their first year of AFL, they are the exception rather than the rule
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I don't think anyone here has argued that he doesn't need to improve santa.....
Well what the eff are they arguing about, thats all i have basically said myself.I have had the guts to say he needs to find more ball and for a bloke playing 23 games playing in the middle at 21 yrs of age in his third season it is not good enough and must improve. Whats to argue.
What areas do they think he needs to improve. All i get here is yeah we know he needs to improve and thats it.Who here doesnt think he needs to find more ball in the role of a wingman.
god you talk crap. thats not basically all you have said yourself, you even continue to say that his ouput is not up to your expectations at this point in career
Whats this bollocks about being in his third season? It's BS, that's what it is. He has played 20 odd games of senior football, yet you expect him to be getting so much more. you are not saying that simply that he needs to improve, you saying that his output is not up to what you expect now. you claim that are are many players you have better stats in similar situations but wont name them.
For some queer reason you seem to think playing senior football is not how players gain experience and improve, and therfore have unrealistic expectations of what they can achieve when get their chance.
on the other hand no one has said that he doesn't need to improve.
as you claimed. dont stoop to outright lies to justify your own stupidity.
most people with shred of understanding know that he needs to lift his output, they just know that not many players have much better stats so early in their career, nor do they expect them to do so.
While there are some players who had stats that you would find acceptable in their first year of AFL, they are the exception rather than the rule
LOL i talk crap sheesh pot kettle and all that.
We get nothing but crap from you why people bother has me beat. Im not sure what is so hard to understand he was drafted in 2012 That means he has been in an AFL SYSTEM FOR THREE YEARS, Eff me drunk a 10 yr old can understand.
Of course i continue to say he needs to get more ball it is an area that is not up to afl level. Yes as a mid i expect him to find more ball. FMD hang draw and quarter me for saying it.
So he has done no developing at richmond other than this year how effing dumb is that comment. So we dont DEVELOP players in the magoos. Thats what you are saying lol. Isnt everyone saying the ideal is to develop them in the twos and when they get a senior game they are ready to go. Seems not.
Oh he needs to improve his output well hello contrary to what you think it is exactly what i said,
What was your question ah yeah, HOW MANY PLAYERS MANAGE MORE THAN 15 DISPOSALS IN THEIR FIRST 20 GAMES.Conveniently moving the criteria to suit your argument.
My reply went, 21 YR OLDS PLAYING ON A WING IN THEIR THIRD AFL SEASON WHO ARE PHYSICALLY NEAR THEIR PEAK. MOST I WOULD SAY. Now if you want to disprove that observation i suggest you look things up for yourself. Heres a starting point for you. At our club alone all of conca, ellis, cotchin, grigg martin, houli, deledio could even throw Miles in there.
. All i have said is for a 21 yr old who played 23 games in a row and has had three yrs in the system, is that clear enough for you, an ave of 15 disposals a game is not good enough i for one expect more and hope most others do as well. You well i think you enjoy wallowing in mediocrity
It really is simple he either has areas to improve upon or he doesnt. If he has areas that need to be better it goes without saying that some areas are not up to scratch.
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A question to those in the know. How many games prior to this season has Kam played with Richmond's VFL team? This will give me an idea of how much development he has had a chance to have prior to this last season.
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the notion that a player does most of their development, not playing AFL football but just being in the system is the most stuffed concept i have read on any football forum by any poster.
I also love the notion that someone thinks they are so great that they don't need to back up their statements with facts. can you get any more narcissistic than that?
"Oh I just sprout any old poo and you must believe me because I am god like. Back it up with facts? Pfft, that for mere mortals."
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Claw, I'm going to attempt to clarify this is as simply as I can but I will only be trying once.
Of course i continue to say he needs to get more ball it is an area that is not up to afl level. Yes as a mid i expect him to find more ball. FMD hang draw and quarter me for saying it.
THIS quote is perfectly fine. Most people agree and it is a fair and reasonable comment to make.
Overall a little disappointed.
THIS is what most people are disagreeing with. No one can fathom how you have such high expectations of a kid who played his first year in the seniors. Especially in a tricky position on the wing that you have to be at the right place at the right time.
So stop harping in on your comment about needing to find more ball because that isn't what most people are disagreeing on.
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A question to those in the know. How many games prior to this season has Kam played with Richmond's VFL team? This will give me an idea of how much development he has had a chance to have prior to this last season.
22 VFL games all up I believe
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A question to those in the know. How many games prior to this season has Kam played with Richmond's VFL team? This will give me an idea of how much development he has had a chance to have prior to this last season.
22 VFL games all up I believe
Thanks taz!
Wow, not a lot of development can be done in just 22 games.........
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but...but....but, its his third year ffs
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Kamdyn is an excellent prospect that came from nowhere to play everygame last year
Big bodied powerful athlete that will only get better.
True, he needs to get more of the ball, but on the positive side he was one of the few that won his position and played well in our elimination final
Tremendous prospect showing excellent improvement
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Kamdyn is an excellent prospect that came from nowhere to play everygame last year
Big bodied powerful athlete that will only get better.
True, he needs to get more of the ball, but on the positive side he was one of the few that won his position and played well in our elimination final
Tremendous prospect showing excellent improvement
Couldn't agree more. Id go as far to say i was disappointed with his disposal numbers.
Claw, I'm going to attempt to clarify this is as simply as I can but I will only be trying once.
Of course i continue to say he needs to get more ball it is an area that is not up to afl level. Yes as a mid i expect him to find more ball. FMD hang draw and quarter me for saying it.
THIS quote is perfectly fine. Most people agree and it is a fair and reasonable comment to make.
Overall a little disappointed.
THIS is what most people are disagreeing with. No one can fathom how you have such high expectations of a kid who played his first year in the seniors. Especially in a tricky position on the wing that you have to be at the right place at the right time.
So stop harping in on your comment about needing to find more ball because that isn't what most people are disagreeing on.
So while you agree he needs to improve indeed most do, except Alison he has nfi what hes on about, your upset because i said i was a little disappointed about certain areas namely his disposal count.
What do you want me to say that i was freakin happy with that area. Imo he went mising in a lot of games and to only average 15 disposals a game having played all 23 is a little disappointing.
In essence your all upset because a poster didnt rate his year as highly as most and was a little disappointed with parts of his game. Bloody hell i would hate to see the reaction if i actually ripped into him.
I will say this just once from now on in i am just going to say what i think about our players with no reasons why i think what i do. You lot can like it or lump it. Now wheres that thread about that pea heart Vickery.
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regardless of difference of opinions, do you really have to stoop to being a blatant liar?
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lmao at thinking because people disagree with you and say so, they are upset.
actually there is quite a bit of insight in that
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INSTAGRAM
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When C.Ellis dribbled a 30mtr kick along the ground on the wing it was counted as 1 ineffective kick by the statisticians, but everybody watching the game knew just how brilliant that 1 ineffective kick really was!
Football is always full of things that don't make the stats, some of the most legendary pieces of play in the game didn't even record a stat!
Numbers are perfect for the scoreboard, for goals & behinds, but they rarely describe the way the game was played, won or lost.
Watching the game will always beat reading the stats.
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Kamdyn is an excellent prospect that came from nowhere to play everygame last year
Big bodied powerful athlete that will only get better.
True, he needs to get more of the ball, but on the positive side he was one of the few that won his position and played well in our elimination final
Tremendous prospect showing excellent improvement
Couldn't agree more. Id go as far to say i was disappointed with his disposal numbers.
Claw, I'm going to attempt to clarify this is as simply as I can but I will only be trying once.
Of course i continue to say he needs to get more ball it is an area that is not up to afl level. Yes as a mid i expect him to find more ball. FMD hang draw and quarter me for saying it.
THIS quote is perfectly fine. Most people agree and it is a fair and reasonable comment to make.
Overall a little disappointed.
THIS is what most people are disagreeing with. No one can fathom how you have such high expectations of a kid who played his first year in the seniors. Especially in a tricky position on the wing that you have to be at the right place at the right time.
So stop harping in on your comment about needing to find more ball because that isn't what most people are disagreeing on.
your upset because i said i was a little disappointed about certain areas namely his disposal count.
Nice back peddle there Clawski! Pretty sure you said his year was disappointing. And then started calling everyone else apologists when we suggested that was a pretty harsh assessment.
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I will say this just once from now on in i am just going to say what i think about our players with no reasons why i think what i do. You lot can like it or lump it. Now wheres that thread about that pea heart Vickery.
Thanks for the heads up.
Just an FYI though your reasons never made a lot of sense anyway, so I am not sure if there will be any real noticeable effect
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Overall a little disappointed. There are areas he just has to do better in.
Hasnt stayed involved enough and for a mid is not finding enough ball. Needs to find another notch if he is to become a top player.
Cmon willy back pedalling or just a heap of posters getting heated over nothing.
If the above does not imply i was upset with a couple of things then i will go heave.
You blokes can read it anyway you like you do regardless.
Personally i cant believe the above post could make so many so precious it is funny to watch.
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Overall a little disappointed. There are areas he just has to do better in.
Hasnt stayed involved enough and for a mid is not finding enough ball. Needs to find another notch if he is to become a top player.
Cmon willy back pedalling or just a heap of posters getting heated over nothing.
If the above does not imply i was upset with a couple of things then i will go heave.
You blokes can read it anyway you like you do regardless.
Personally i cant believe the above post could make so many so precious it is funny to watch.
You should have said this:
Overall, I was pleased with his output considering he has only played 22 VFL games in the last few years and this was his first stint at the seniors. However, he now needs to improve on this. He will have had only his second full preseason but needs to build his tank and this will lead him to get more possessions. An average of 15 per game is not going to cut it as a mid so he really needs to up the ante. Has pace, size and run so makes the ideal winger or half back flanker. As opposed to several in the team, there is something there to work on.
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Shut up
She is her own person
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Not sure its been mentioned on here yet but good mail that McIntosh has broken ribs from a surfing accident. Could be old mail not sure. Anyone see him training?
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Not sure its been mentioned on here yet but good mail that McIntosh has broken ribs from a surfing accident. Could be old mail not sure. Anyone see him training?
Was training Friday, definitely took part in the match sim
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Not sure its been mentioned on here yet but good mail that McIntosh has broken ribs from a surfing accident. Could be old mail not sure. Anyone see him training?
Was training Friday, definitely took part in the match sim
Good news, love rubbish mail.
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must luv bo jo then?
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Not sure its been mentioned on here yet but good mail that McIntosh has broken ribs from a surfing accident. Could be old mail not sure. Anyone see him training?
Was training Friday, definitely took part in the match sim
Macca is up training at Palm Cove.
(http://www.aflphotos.com.au/images/thumbs/450/2015/12/14/413643.jpg)
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Got some size about him for a first year player :shh
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I will say this just once from now on in i am just going to say what i think about our players with no reasons why i think what i do. You lot can like it or lump it. Now wheres that thread about that pea heart Vickery.
Thanks for the heads up.
Just an FYI though your reasons never made a lot of sense anyway, so I am not sure if there will be any real noticeable effect
Ah well at least some of us give reasons eh. Unlike some we know lol.
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in his first 23 games Cameron Ling (189cm) rack up 236 disposals at an average of just over 10. He improved to be All Australian and have a career disposal average of 21.4
At age 21 Andrew Embley (189cm) rack up 18 games and 186 disposals at an average of 10. He improved to be a Norm Smith medalist and a career disposal average of 18
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in his first 23 games Cameron Ling (189cm) rack up 236 disposals at an average of just over 10. He improved to be All Australian and have a career disposal average of 21.4
At age 21 Andrew Embley (189cm) rack up 18 games and 186 disposals at an average of 10. He improved to be a Norm Smith medalist and a career disposal average of 18
Oh wow Gracie thats marvelous. If i may can i ask what is the norm.
In his third year Lingy averaged just under 20 a game within a whisker of passable. in his 4th he averaged almost 25 a game which places him almost top echelon. If Kamdyn averages 20 a game i will be happy. I am not ripping into him just stating a fact.
Andrew Embley may have won a norm smith, great game on the day and theres been a few like him. But lets not let logic come into it. overall i would rate his career as average or a smidge above but hey he won a norman.
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in his first 23 games Cameron Ling (189cm) rack up 236 disposals at an average of just over 10. He improved to be All Australian and have a career disposal average of 21.4
At age 21 Andrew Embley (189cm) rack up 18 games and 186 disposals at an average of 10. He improved to be a Norm Smith medalist and a career disposal average of 18
Oh wow Gracie thats marvelous. If i may can i ask what is the norm.
In his third year Lingy averaged just under 20 a game within a whisker of passable. in his 4th he averaged almost 25 a game which places him almost top echelon. If Kamdyn averages 20 a game i will be happy. I am not ripping into him just stating a fact.
Andrew Embley may have won a norm smith, great game on the day and theres been a few like him. But lets not let logic come into it. overall i would rate his career as average or a smidge above but hey he won a norman.
You are talking about Kamdyn's first 23 games of AFL and since he is in his 4th year at the club and a regular in the top side his average of 15 disposals is not high enough output for you to get excited. You are a tough marker.
Both Ling and Embley recorded average disposal of around 10 at a similar stage of their AFL career to Kamdyn in a similar role. Judd's first 23 games averaged 15.5 disposals. Yes Judd started at 18, but just saying an average of 15 disposals in your first 23 games is a decent return and a good base to launch a long productive AFL career.
Question now is can he go on and forge a career of around 250 games like Ling and Embley?
We will know by the end of next year.
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Ling was a full forward as a junior
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in his first 23 games Cameron Ling (189cm) rack up 236 disposals at an average of just over 10. He improved to be All Australian and have a career disposal average of 21.4
At age 21 Andrew Embley (189cm) rack up 18 games and 186 disposals at an average of 10. He improved to be a Norm Smith medalist and a career disposal average of 18
Oh wow Gracie thats marvelous. If i may can i ask what is the norm.
In his third year Lingy averaged just under 20 a game within a whisker of passable. in his 4th he averaged almost 25 a game which places him almost top echelon. If Kamdyn averages 20 a game i will be happy. I am not ripping into him just stating a fact.
Andrew Embley may have won a norm smith, great game on the day and theres been a few like him. But lets not let logic come into it. overall i would rate his career as average or a smidge above but hey he won a norman.
You are talking about Kamdyn's first 23 games of AFL and since he is in his 4th year at the club and a regular in the top side his average of 15 disposals is not high enough output for you to get excited. You are a tough marker.
Both Ling and Embley recorded average disposal of around 10 at a similar stage of their AFL career to Kamdyn in a similar role. Judd's first 23 games averaged 15.5 disposals. Yes Judd started at 18, but just saying an average of 15 disposals in your first 23 games is a decent return and a good base to launch a long productive AFL career.
Question now is can he go on and forge a career of around 250 games like Ling and Embley?
We will know by the end of next year.
In the mind of the great one, the only thing important is how long they have been in the system.
Kamydn has been on our list list 3 years. It is irrelevant that in that time he has played 20 odd VFL games and 20 odd AFL games.
His output should be the same as if he had played ALF since he started and had 60 odd games under his belt..
In his mind, playing AFL, VFL or sitting in the medical room all contribute the same in terms of development
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Overall a little disappointed. There are areas he just has to do better in.
Hasnt stayed involved enough and for a mid is not finding enough ball. Needs to find another notch if he is to become a top player.
Cmon willy back pedalling or just a heap of posters getting heated over nothing.
If the above does not imply i was upset with a couple of things then i will go heave.
You blokes can read it anyway you like you do regardless.
Personally i cant believe the above post could make so many so precious it is funny to watch.
Can you seriously not tolerate people having a different opinion than you? It's not people being sooks, precious or heated or whatever you want to label it as. It is simply people disagreeing with you
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ppl knocking K-Mac need to realise that while he's now 21yr he's barely played Footy at all before this year through injury, ppl are actinjg like he's been playing VFL for the previous 2 yrs... he started with a match fitness base of 0 this year!
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When coaches talk about players developing they often mention games played not age. Fact is he's played 20odd games and most players don't come into their own until they've played 40-50 games. Why harp on about his age?
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Gotta luv the mediocre crowd. Nothing but excuses and then more excuses. So 15 disposals a game playing on the wing is good enough. Good for you lot glad to see you all have such low expectations.
Its farcical that none of you are prepared to make the distinction between a 21 yr old and a 18 yr old. the distinction between a fully developed bloke who has had three years in an elite system to a skinny kid in his very first.If i have it right you lot are telling me there is no distinction to be made.
Anthony Miles played 23 games till the end of last yr. last yr he averaged 24 disposals a game I suppose his maturity age had nothing to do with that.lol.
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Gotta luv the mediocre crowd. Nothing but excuses and then more excuses. So 15 disposals a game playing on the wing is good enough. Good for you lot glad to see you all have such low expectations.
Its farcical that none of you are prepared to make the distinction between a 21 yr old and a 18 yr old. the distinction between a fully developed bloke who has had three years in an elite system to a skinny kid in his very first.If i have it right you lot are telling me there is no distinction to be made.
Anthony Miles played 23 games till the end of last yr. last yr he averaged 24 disposals a game I suppose his maturity age had nothing to do with that.lol.
Gotta love the 'keep arguing, keep moving the goalposts until it seems I'm right' crowd too.
And nice choice of comparison to 'prove' your point - 179cm 80kg inside mid vs 192cm 89kg winger. :wallywink
But since you chose that comparison - taking it past pure disposals in their respective first 23 games, Miles vs McIntosh:
Scores - 6g 5b v 8g 8b
Marks - 84 v 94
Tackles - 97 v 60
I50 - 67 v 58
Clearances - 107 v 25
Rebound 50's - 31 v 47
1% 23 v 32
Bounces - 1 v 16
Goal assists - 5 v 12
Marks I50 - 5 v 8
So a player who plays a completely different role in the team and has exposure to senior football in each of the first 3 years of his development only beats your 'disappointment' player in his strength areas and loses badly to him in his non-strength areas. But no quarter is given the player who only has 1 year of senior exposure because "he has been in the system for 3 years".
You wonder why people don't take your dribble seriously.
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I am surprised by miles' low 1% count.
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I am surprised by miles' low 1% count.
I think he was promoted too early and now thinks he doesn't have to do the hard work
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Na he's a good lad
#newCogs
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Midfielders:- the only players in the game who get the benefit of a 45mtr protected zone!
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Gotta luv the mediocre crowd. Nothing but excuses and then more excuses. So 15 disposals a game playing on the wing is good enough. Good for you lot glad to see you all have such low expectations.
FMD
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I don't think anyone here is arguing he's going to be the next big thing in yellow and black, that's not the point.
IMO if we ever are to become a serious premiership contender/winner, we need guys like K Mac, our 2nd & 3rd rounders, to step up and start playing seriously competitive football at senior level. Have a role and play it well.
That's why people are very happy with McIntosh. A guy who went pick (early 30ish?) who is doing exactly what we need him to do at this stage. Get regular 1's games into the legs, stamp his position across that wing and go from there. Very happy with his progression so far, but hoping for more in the future!
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27 disps (21 kicks 6 hballs) and 7 marks in Rd 22 27-pt win over Essendon at the MCG (29 Aug 2015)
19 disps (15 kicks 4 hballs), 7 marks, 4 tackles and a goal in Rd 9 13-pt win over Essendon at the MCG (30 May 2015)
24 disps (18 kicks 6 hballs) and 7 marks in Rd 2 19-pt loss to the Western Bulldogs at the MCG (11 Apr 2015)
23 disps (14 kicks 9 hballs), 9 marks and a goal in Rd 1 27-pt win over Carlton at the MCG (2 Apr 2015)
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So Mcintosh is a dud, from the guy who said:-
oh dear we still have the same old debate going on.
nothing has changed with rance and its not likely to. the quicker we get a player like james frawley and pee him off the better.
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So Mcintosh is a dud, from the guy who said:-
oh dear we still have the same old debate going on.
nothing has changed with rance and its not likely to. the quicker we get a player like james frawley and pee him off the better.
We are all entitled to mistakes but that was a biggie!!!! :lol
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McIntosh was the sub on three occasions
R13 v Syd 5 disposals
R14 v GWS 9 disposals
R20 v GC 5 disposals
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Gotta luv the mediocre crowd. Nothing but excuses and then more excuses. So 15 disposals a game playing on the wing is good enough. Good for you lot glad to see you all have such low expectations.
FMD
yep
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So Mcintosh is a dud, from the guy who said:-
oh dear we still have the same old debate going on.
nothing has changed with rance and its not likely to. the quicker we get a player like james frawley and pee him off the better.
We are all entitled to mistakes but that was a biggie!!!! :lol
Hmmmmmmmmm
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McIntosh was the sub on three occasions
R13 v Syd 5 disposals
R14 v GWS 9 disposals
R20 v GC 5 disposals
:lol The oracle is looking more stupid by the day. Brings his 'real' average disposals up to nearly 17 then. Yeah, horrendous crap effort in his first 20 games, can't believe we kept him. ::)
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being sub is as irrelevant as 20 odd AFL games after only 20 odd VFL games and equivalent of 1 season on the sidelines.
3 years!
3 years!
3 years!
3 years!
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I like Macca, reckon he goes alright. Like how he wipes out NM players when he hits em too.
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Gotta real good feeling about Kam. Ceiling not yet there by a distance.
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He's a slug
#supporttheoracle
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He's the last player Id bag. He made an impressive adjustment to senior football and will only get better.
Needs to work a little on his lateral movement and mix up his disposal but that will come
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He's a slug
#supporttheoracle
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wow a man has a break from the site and comes back and presto butt hurt every where. And why ? because a bloke suggests KMacs season was a little disappointing in some areas.Seems even champion data agree. What a bunch of nuffies.
Ah well i see i havent missed anything see ya all in another months time.
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wow a man has a break from the site and comes back and presto butt hurt every where. And why ? because a bloke suggests KMacs season was a little disappointing in some areas.Seems even champion data agree. What a bunch of nuffies.
Ah well i see i havent missed anything see ya all in another months time.
Da Orakle is back!
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wow a man has a break from the site and comes back and presto butt hurt every where. And why ? because a bloke suggests KMacs season was a little disappointing in some areas.Seems even champion data agree. What a bunch of nuffies.
Ah well i see i havent missed anything see ya all in another months time.
Didn't know you were such a fan of Champion Data - so surely you must agree with all their other ratings then eh santa? Edwards elite in your book too? Houli, Yarran & Vickery all above average? I mean if they're good enough to cite as proof you were right about McIntosh....
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wow a man has a break from the site and comes back and presto butt hurt every where. And why ? because a bloke suggests KMacs season was a little disappointing in some areas.Seems even champion data agree. What a bunch of nuffies.
Ah well i see i havent missed anything see ya all in another months time.
"Butt hurt"
What are you 12 years old?
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wow a man has a break from the site and comes back and presto butt hurt every where. And why ? because a bloke suggests KMacs season was a little disappointing in some areas.Seems even champion data agree. What a bunch of nuffies.
Ah well i see i havent missed anything see ya all in another months time.
Didn't know you were such a fan of Champion Data - so surely you must agree with all their other ratings then eh santa? Edwards elite in your book too? Houli, Yarran & Vickery all above average? I mean if they're good enough to cite as proof you were right about McIntosh....
Very selective is old santa claws.
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Kam will will the Brownlow this year
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McIntosh has been moved into defence in a bid to generate more rebound for the team, and he’s responded superbly.
The hard-running 22-year-old is averaging 21.2 disposals and 5.8 marks per game.
He is ranked 17th in the competition for rebound-50s, with 17, including a game-high nine in last Friday night’s loss to West Coast at Domain Stadium, among his total of 24 disposals.
Full article: http://www.richmondfc.com.au/news/2016-04-18/fleetfoot-mac-rising-up-the-afl-charts
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One move in 7 years under Hardwick that has worked...TO DATE....pats on the back and high 5's all round... :snidegrin
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One move in 7 years under Hardwick that has worked...TO DATE....pats on the back and high 5's all round... :snidegrin
It's validated the two year contract extension.
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One move in 7 years under Hardwick that has worked...TO DATE....pats on the back and high 5's all round... :snidegrin
It's validated the two year contract extension.
Stability in mediocrity?
:snidegrin
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One move in 7 years under Hardwick that has worked...TO DATE....pats on the back and high 5's all round... :snidegrin
It's validated the two year contract extension.
:lol
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‘Fleetfoot Mac’ on the way back
richmondfc.com.au
August 25, 2016
VIDEO: http://www.richmondfc.com.au/video/2016-08-25/mcintosh-returns-to-track
Turning the corner
“The back-end of last week we started to ramp up all the running and the sessions got a bit more intense . . . The key is to keep building before the season ends . . . Hopefully, by then, I’ve got a good fitness level back and I’m ready to go on the two months off that we have. But the key for me will be to maintain that fitness level over the two months off because, coming pre-season, I don’t want to be on the back foot again with any other niggles . . .”
Aims leading into season 2017
“I’ve got a few goals. It’s going to be my second full pre-season (in the AFL), if all goes well. My first couple of pre-seasons I was a bit injured . . . I’ve got to keep working on my strength. I want to get stronger through the hips and be a bit harder to tackle. I wouldn’t mind getting a little bit bigger through the pre-season – through the legs, especially, because I lost a little bit of size with my injury. I wouldn’t mind moving back into the midfield. I played all last year on the wing, and this year I moved to the half-back line . . . I’ll do a little bit of work with ‘Cotchy’ (Trent Cotchin) and those sort of players in the midfield and then, hopefully, I can implement Dustin’s (Martin) ‘don’t argue’ into my game as well . . . I just want to get back out there with the boys in the pre-season.”
http://www.richmondfc.com.au/news/2016-08-25/fleetfoot-mac-on-the-way-back
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Imprssive young man is our Kamdyn. :clapping :clapping :clapping
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if he learns how to tackle correctly, will be a physical beast running around the midfield. He better learn how to tackle correctly..
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if he learns how to tackle correctly, will be a physical beast running around the midfield. He better learn how to tackle correctly..
We'd need to change the coach first or if he goes to Sydney. :rollin
No team has laid more tackles more than the Swans, who average 79.3 per game, while no team tackles less than the Tigers, with only 60.8 per game.
Sometimes we want high tackle numbers, sometimes we're prepared to sit off a bit and let them go certain ways," he said.
"It all interconnects with how you play. We're a low tackle side. Some sides are high tackle, depending on the style of game."
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if he learns how to tackle correctly, will be a physical beast running around the midfield. He better learn how to tackle correctly..
We're a low tackle side man.
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if he learns how to tackle correctly, will be a physical beast running around the midfield. He better learn how to tackle correctly..
We're a low tackle side man.
Yesssss big man. We are a corralling side. :clapping
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of course, my bad
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Im a low tackle sort of guy.
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yeah, it happens as u age
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Hopefully he will slot straight back into halfback in 2017. We need to be harder as a side and Houli, Grigg and Ellis make it almost impossible.
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Im a low tackle sort of guy.
Nahas' tackle hangs low and Chaplin hung low after Nahas' tackle....
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McIntosh preparing for return:
VIDEO: http://www.richmondfc.com.au/video/2017-01-11/mcintosh-preparing-for-return
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Re-training the Mac
richmondfc.com.au
12 January 2017
McIntosh preparing for return Kamdyn McIntosh speaks to Roar Vision about overcoming the injury that sidelined him in 2016.
As a comeback to competitive football nears for Richmond utility Kamdyn McIntosh, he has found himself investing more time perfecting the subtle aspects of the game which have lain dormant during his prolonged absence.
McIntosh’s 2016 season was effectively ended when he suffered a syndesmosis sprain of his right ankle during training in May.
He recovered and trained towards a return at the end of the season, but it never eventuated.
That training block wasn’t wasted, however, as the 22-year-old used it to launch into this pre-season, and now, as the JLT Community Series approaches, he feels he just needs to add some finish to his game before a return to the field.
“With my footwork, I’ve been off a little bit... I’m a bit rushed,” McIntosh told Roar Vision.
“I really want to get out there and just kick the footy… so I’m a bit all over the shop at the moment.
“I’ve been working with Leppa (assistant coach Justin Leppitsch), Blake Caracella and Andrew McQualter, just to help me calm myself a little bit, get my touch back, get the feel of the game back as well, and I’m finding it’s coming along nicely with the one-on-one stuff I’ve been doing with those coaches.
“It’s just little things that you might not think about, like reading the flight of the ball, that I’m working back into my game now - and just out in drills, finding where I’m supposed to be out on the ground - it takes a little bit of time, but I’m finding it’s coming back nice and quickly.”
Another focus for McIntosh during pre-season training has been the actual position he will play within the side.
After excelling on the wing in 2015, the hard-runner impressed in a new role moving the ball off half-back in the six senior games he did play last year.
For now, McIntosh has his sight set on advancing up the field and again being part of the midfield mix.
“I thought I was going to go back into the backline this year for pre-season, but I’ve been shifted back to the mids,” he said.
“Whether I stay there when the season starts, I’m not too sure, but at the moment I’m just trying to work with the mids and really get my knowledge back.”
http://www.richmondfc.com.au/news/2017-01-11/retraining-the-mac
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Well, I tried to tell you so, yes, I did, but I guess you didn't know
As the saddest story goes, baby, now I got the flo'
Cause I knew it from the start, baby, when you broke my heart
That I had to come again and to show you that I'm with
You lied to me all those times I said that I loved you
You lied to me, yes I tried, yes I tried
You lied to me, even though you know I'd die for you
You lied to me, yes I cried, yes I cried
Return of the Mack, there it is, return of the Mack, come on
Return of the Mack, oh my God, you know that I'll be back, here I am
Return of the Mack, once again, return of the Mack, top of the world
Return of the Mack, watch my flow, you know that I'll be back, here I go
So, I'm back up in the game (hustling sound)
Running things to keep my swing (whole night long)
Letting all the people know that I'm back to run the show
Cause what you did you know was wrong
And all the nasty things you've done (oh oh oh)
So baby listen carefully while I sing my comeback song
You lied to me, cause she said she'd never turn on me
You lied to me, but you did, but you did
You lied to me, all this pain you said I'd never feel
You lied to me, but I do, but I do, do, do
Return of the Mack, there it is, return of the Mack, come on
Return of the Mack, oh my God, you know that I'll be back, here I am
Return of the Mack, once again, return of the Mack, top of the world
Return of the Mack, watch my flow, you know that I'll be back, here I go
Return of the Mack, there it is, return of the Mack, hold on
Return of the Mack, don't you know, you know that I'll be back, here I go
Return of the Mack, oh little girl, return of the Mack, once my pearl
Return of the Mack, up and down
You know that I'll be back, round and round
Return of the Mack, Yes it is, return of the Mack, Yes it is
Return of the Mack, Yes it is
You know that I'll be back, here I go (oh oh oh)
Return of the Mack, Yes it is, return of the Mack, Yes it is
Return of the Mack, Yes it is, you know that I'll be back,oh
You lied to me, cause she said she'd never turn on me
You lied to me, but you did, but you did
You lied to me, all this pain you said I'd never feel
You lied to me, but I do, but I do, do, do
Return of the Mack, it is, return of the Mack, come on
Return of the Mack, oh my God, you know that I'll be back, here I am
Return of the Mack, once again, return of the Mack, top of the world
Return of the Mack, watch my flow
You know that I'll be back, don't you know
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So you know Nevada - the Mack......
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Classic jam
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Best game I've seen Him play. Gain nearly 500 metres tonight. :thumbsup
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We missed KMac last year we probably didn't even recognise this, his inclusion has been massive and has been great defensively as a Mackie type defender who runs off his opponent has been really effective. He also contests really well and clearly has worked on his tackling and body strength in off season. Biggest improver on our list IMO.
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I like that for someone who is 188 he moves pretty quick! his penetrating kick and run has definitely been an asset. sometimes he fumbles it pretty badly and it makes me want to throw my tv out the window but he does more good than bad
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I like that for someone who is 188 he moves pretty quick! his penetrating kick and run has definitely been an asset. sometimes he fumbles it pretty badly and it makes me want to throw my tv out the window but he does more good than bad
188??
If you are talking height then Kamdyn is actually 192cm tall.
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Loved his run and carry where he bounced it 4 times too. A hundred metre play... :clapping
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Loved his run and carry where he bounced it 4 times too. A hundred metre play... :clapping
5 bounces
Basil the effwit Zempalis cant count
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I just pulled it from Google like the first thing that came up. I thought he was taller actually so thanks for digging it up. Anyway point being, KMac is fairly quick
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Anyone hear Luke Darcy refer to him as Kane Lambert like five stuffing times in a row?
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Anyone hear Luke Darcy refer to him as Kane Lambert like five stuffing times in a row?
Yep. I thought to myself that there is only 20cm difference in height....
But they both have beards..... :rollin
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Anyone hear Luke Darcy refer to him as Kane Lambert like five stuffing times in a row?
Yep. I thought to myself that there is only 20cm difference in height....
But they both have beards..... :rollin
Not the most accurate way to judge but considering it was deep in the back line too you'd think he'd get it right :lol. Seriously, this guy gets the players wrong so consistently I'm surprised he has a job
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Pretty sure I heard a "Jake Lambert" too.
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Tom Watson called him Kayden McIntosh.
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Oregano Zepplins is the worst with names.
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Oregano Zepplins is the worst with names.
I'm not sure how you can pick that one thing from the litany of things he gets wrong as a commentator in any sport he chooses to ruin for the audience who have to have their experience ruined by his droll, inaccurate ramblings
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He plays with hardness which i love :cheers
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McIntosh is developingly nicely :shh
Anyone hear Luke Darcy refer to him as Kane Lambert like five stuffing times in a row?
One of them called sammy Lloyd Gordon
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Oregano Zepplins is the worst with names.
I'm not sure how you can pick that one thing from the litany of things he gets wrong as a commentator in any sport he chooses to ruin for the audience who have to have their experience ruined by his droll, inaccurate ramblings
My favourite thing Basil does is when he is calling a shot for goal - "Martin has a shot from 50, it's on it's way, it's a good looking kick" while he is commentating this, the ball has already gone through for a behind, the umpire has signalled and the ball is getting brought back in.
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He did something very similar when calling the swimming, seemed to commentate 5 metres behind what was happening - good for radio tho
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Bloke is having a great year, tough footballer, holds his feet, runs with the ball.
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Great yesterday stood out and suited to finals.
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Great yesterday stood out and suited to finals.
Best game for a few weeks. I like the kid and his aggression.
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Laid a strong tackle on Danger from memory :clapping
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The good tackling Kamdyn showed up again......always drives the ball forward..... :clapping
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Laid a strong tackle on Danger from memory :clapping
You feeling ok? You usually pick out an error that goes against the grain.
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Laid a strong tackle on Danger from memory :clapping
You feeling ok? You usually pick out an error that goes against the grain.
Whatchu talking about?
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Has a big engine too.
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McIntosh moments: The eccentric world of an athletic Tiger
Michael Gleeson
The Age
22 September 2017
"No way! It was 15 bags. See there, that's what I'm talking about, they always trying to stitch me up!"
So it only weighs 300 kilograms?
"Yeah ...[pause] it's a heavy table. Actually the legs will weigh another 100 kilos."
McIntosh doesn't like to sit still. He'd seen a table he liked so he decided to make it because the boys were telling him he couldn't. He is always making things, keeping busy. He thinks he was always that way, but helping raise his brothers and sisters also brought it out in him.
McIntosh is from Pinjarra, south of Perth. His mum and dad separated when he was four and have both since remarried and had more kids. Now McIntosh is one of nine.
"Four of us are full-blood related and then there are five that aren't. So Mum and Dad have us four, then Dad had two more and my mum had another three girls. I call them the three little pigs, they are all a year apart and the young ones of the family," he said.
Kamdyn's dad moved away and now lives a two-and-a-half hour flight north of Pinjarra so they only saw one another on school holidays, but they remain close.
Kamdyn's mum and her partner are fly-in, fly-out workers on the mines, working one week on and one week off. They both worked the same shift so for the week they worked, McIntosh, at 17, looked after the house of four younger sisters. His sister Hannah was two years younger than him, then there were the "three little pigs" who were all at primary school.
His mum would leave a list of things to be done for the week and he would work his way through it: make the lunches, clean the house, do the washing. He was able to get a motorbike licence at 16 so he got a small scooter to get around and get to footy training.
He worked three part-time jobs at the time, as well as footy training and looking after the girls. He was busy.
"It was pretty hard because if one of the girls got sick they couldn't stay home because either I would have to stay home with her or she'd have to just man up – or toughen up – and go to school," he said.
"So pretty much it was toughen up and go to school unless it was pretty bad and I could see that she wasn't just putting it on. Sometimes she would get crappy with me.
"I think I was probably harder on them than Mum. It was quite funny looking back. We are a pretty independent family. "
Only once did he have to dink one of his sisters on the scooter. She wasn't keen on a second trip.
McIntosh has traded his scooter in for his dream bike – a Cafe Racer SWM Gran Milano. A footballer's life has its perks.
When he came to Melbourne, drafted to Richmond, he was put in a house with three other recruits from out of Melbourne. He felt like he hadn't left home. He was still managing the house.
Without family here, Richmond has become his world. He gets teased like a brother would, but he also offers up such fertile material.
Recently Shane Edwards and Shaun Hampson arrived at the club enthusing about the movie Dunkirk. McIntosh hadn't heard of it but he was persuaded that he just had to see it. So he went home and tried to stream it on TV. After 20 minutes he turned it off. Complete rubbish.
Next day he arrived at the club to tell the boys they were fools, that Dunkirk film was crap.
"I didn't realise until the next day when I told the boys that I watched the wrong one. Because it was new it wasn't out to stream online. I watched Operation Dunkirk, which was filmed in 1980 or something. It was so bad."
The players liked that story.
Kamdyn's immediate next building project (he has plans for another outdoor concrete table with a fire pit down the middle and another one with a trench filed with succulent plants) has been to build a spinning wheel for the players' fines and pranks.
"It's this 1.7-metre wide Wheel of Fortune wheel. It only took a couple of weeks to make so I am adding to it. I have this confetti gun that shoots out confetti when you spin it. There are punishments and things on it that you have to do so I built a podium in the front of the wheel that you will have to stand to do your punishments in front of all the boys.
"I am thinking of getting a counter weight I can put on it so it will spin but it will always land on the same person. So I can stitch up someone like Ben Lennon or Shaun Grigg for stitching me up all the time."
Grigg, for all his pranks and extravagant stories about McIntosh, has also been his teacher. Mcintosh only took up football at 15 – he'd previously played soccer – and Grigg has been helping him learn where to position himself and where to run.
Tall and athletic McIntosh is an excellent runner so has moved to a wing after playing previously behind the ball.
"They want me to cover more of the ground with my running ability. 'Grigga' still teaches me how to read the play and position myself around the ground so he is stitching me up and teaching me a few things as well."
Against Fremantle in round 22 McIntosh played in Perth. It was the nearest he had come to having his whole family at a game. Even then there were still five of his closest relatives missing.
It was the first time his grandparents had seen him play a game of football live. Living on a farm they had never had a chance to see watch him play even as a junior. The first time they saw him play was on TV playing for Richmond.
The large extended family has created a further problem should the Tigers get through to the grand final.
"I can't cater for the whole family. I have already said 'immediate family only'. So my mum, my stepdad, my dad, my stepmum, my older brother and sister, my 20-year-old sister and my partner. That's nine, then I have got my other little brother so my other little sister misses out, so I think we are just going to buy another ticket and just divvy it up and then that is it – everyone else will fend for themselves. And the three little pigs miss out."
https://www.brisbanetimes.com.au/sport/afl/mcintosh-moments-the-eccentric-world-of-an-athletic-tiger-20170922-gymqmo.html
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Tough as nails and plays his role.
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Like Vlastuin, looked very shaky early but was able to steady..... :clapping
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Macca taking on pesky magpies on his morning run lol.
VIDEO: https://www.instagram.com/p/Ba5z5cmjpVj/?taken-by=kamdynmcintosh
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Kamdyn cool, calm and collected
richmondfc.com.au
26 April 2018
Kamdyn McIntosh is another of those Richmond role players who goes about his football business in a no-frills manner.
The premiership Tiger tends to slide under the radar of the wider football community, but the Yellow and Black faithful are well aware of his value to the team.
After five rounds this season, McIntosh is averaging 13.8 disposals, 3.6 marks and 3.6 inside-50s per game.
Through his hard, two-way running, strength, aerial ability and efficient disposal, he continues to be an important contributor for the Tigers.
“I feel like the last few rounds I’ve got back to where I was at in finals footy last year and my role,” McIntosh said on the Club’s official podcast ‘Talking Tigers’.
“During pre-season you get back into running and doing all that sort of stuff and you want to take your game to the next level. And sometimes you can forget those little things that you were doing on game day.
“But I feel like the last few weeks it’s really improved and I’ve got back to that, and then adding a few strings to my game from there . . .
“I’ve found the last few weeks really good, actually, and I’m enjoying it.”
McIntosh also revealed the key area of improvement in his game that he’s focused on.
“I love being a bit of a connector out on that wing and just really getting connected from the half-back line to the half-forward line and the ‘mids’ inside, on-ball. And just a bit of voice, instructing some of the younger boys . . . as well as obviously getting forward and back, helping out each position. I want to take that connecting part of my game to the next level,” he said.
http://www.richmondfc.com.au/news/2018-04-26/kamdyn-cool-calm-and-collected
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needs a kick up the arse and be given the lemon and sarsp. Been very average to poor for 5 weeks now and hes getting under the radar.
Probably our worst on the weekend and its not as if players in the twos dont deserve a go.
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needs a kick up the arse and be given the lemon and sarsp. Been very average to poor for 5 weeks now and hes getting under the radar.
Probably our worst on the weekend and its not as if players in the twos dont deserve a go.
Yep...not a great start to the year and boy he is fumbling the pill. Menadue comes in for him for mine or Oleg if fit.
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whole team was a bit fumbly , probably the short break. Dropped a spectacularly easy mark and gave away a spectacularly poo stupid 50 but he is usually a solid contributor. I reckon he will bounce back.
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I had him our second worst on to Fatty McTurnover...interestingly a few posters on BF ('nuff said perhaps) reckoned he kept De Goey quiet...maybe they're right but I really didn't notice at the game or on the replay....only vaguely remember Grimes on him at various stages... :huh
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I think he had a bad one but generally a good intercept player, breaks the lines, he best is better than his worst, in our top 15 players for mine. His major downfall is he cannot handball and his kicking is not up to snuff, he is not Robinson Crusoe there though.
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Menadue is an upgrade in one respect (class and line breaking) but a downgrade in toughness.
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I think he had a bad one but generally a good intercept player, breaks the lines, he best is better than his worst, in our top 15 players for mine. His major downfall is he cannot handball and his kicking is not up to snuff, he is not Robinson Crusoe there though.
strongly disagree with top 15. i dont mind Maca but i had him at the start of the season as one of the premiership players whose spot was in danger. taking his disposal efficiency out of it, he doesnt get enough of it often enough as a wingman for mine
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If B Ellis wasn’t such a scardy cat and pooed his knickers every time he heard footsteps he’d actually be a decent wingman. If he was able to buy some courage from the wizard and found some of his finals form of last year I’d have him back on the wing.
There’s no way I’d put him back defending in the back six ahead of anyone currently there.
If Macca imposes himself more in the game and improved his kicking then I suppose I wouldn’t even be thinking of playing B Ellis in his spot.
I’d like also to see Markov on the wing at some stage this year.
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Menadue is an upgrade in one respect (class and line breaking) but a downgrade in toughness.
This.
I have macca in our bottom 6 players, handy player and runs through players and tackles like they're not there, just needs to polish up his disposal and make his poor games less poor if that makes sense.
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Been watching him a lot and apart from rnd 1 he has been ordinary.
Has never truly managed to get enough ball as a winger and the last 5 hes averaged just 11.2 disposals a game. we all talk about his toughness including me but i havent really seen it this yr so i checked his tackling stats and hes laying just 1.8 a game. That lead me into checking the other areas he needs to be good in and lo and behold the only word you can come up with is poor. The old watery half shot eyes did not decieve.
Last 5 games
Disposals 11.2 - in anyones language it just aint good enough.
C/P'S 3.4 - Maybe one reason why hes not getting a lot of ball hes not getting it for himself.
Clgrs 3.8 - fmd a third of what disposals he is getting are useless.
Marks 2.8 - For a 192cm player who does get deep in defence this is not good.
C/Marks 0.0 - thats right he has not managed a contested mark in the last 5 games.
Tackles 1.8 - for a bloke whos supposed to be feared and hard at it this is poor. Its poor for any player.
I/50 2.2 - He plays on a wing most games and hes hardly delivering the ball inside.
Clearances 0.4 - Okay not a big part of his job but fffs hes had just 2 clearances in 5 games.
Rebounds 1.4 - Does play back and does go deep back but hes not running the ball out.
I thought hes been poor and ineffective i didnt realise just how poor hes been.As i said sometimes the stats do back up what you see.
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In fairness I wouldn’t judge a winger based on their contested possession numbers. Primary job should be collecting the ball on the outside and running it between the arcs, something I thought b.ellis was very very good at when he broke out in 2013. As said my biggest concern is that he’s just not getting enough of it and when combined with his clangers he’s avging under 8 effective disposals a game. 1 thing he has mastered is his set shot goal kicking from 45-55m range - very rarely misses those ones.
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Blake Caracella's view of Kamdyn McIntosh:
Main on-field attributes
He’s such a great athlete . . . running ability, repeated speed and his size. He looks lean and he can run all day and he’s quick, but he’s really strong as well. He’s a bull, and when he plays on the outside, on those wing positions, he gets some lighter frames and he really bullies those opponents.”
Valuable versatility
“He plays on the wing mostly, but he’s played down back and on-ball as well . . . We like that versatility.”
VFL stint earlier this season
“We wanted to give him a chance to play more on-ball and more half-back, just to expand his game. He played a lot on the wing the previous year (2017) and we wanted to make sure that if we do need him at half-back, or need him to play on-ball during the finals series, that he can do that, and we’ve got confidence to do that as well.”
High ranking for metres gained per disposal
“That means he gets the ball, doesn’t muck around with it, and kicks it long. Or he runs with the ball, bounces it, and then kicks it long. He likes to keep the game simple, and he does it well.”
High ranking for knock-ons
“We don’t really care about how many kicks or handballs our players have. We want to make sure that the player who’s got the footy can gain an advantage for us. Whether that’s a tap on, a kick, or a handball, we don’t really care . . . It’s good to see Kamdyn No. 3 (on that list).”
His game v Geelong last Friday night
“He was strong, he won some contests, he was clean with the ball . . . and he didn’t much around with the ball so much. He was clean with his hands, won the footy, kicked it long, and also his pressure was good.”
Reliable set shot for goal
“He’s done a fair bit of work on his goalkicking. He has momentum, he’s nice and balanced, very compact, and not much can go wrong.”
Areas of improvement
“I think we still want to see him improve his flexibility . . . playing at half-back, playing on-ball, maybe even play in the ruck when Shaun Grigg’s not playing that role. But we also want to see him continue to do what he’s doing – his tackling pressure, his strength in the contest and, when he gets the ball, using it well.”
Hitting the scoreboard
“He’s kicked a few (goals) this year already, and if he can get forward, because he is a really big, strong player, he might be able to get a mismatch and take a mark and kick a goal.”
http://www.richmondfc.com.au/news/2018-08-07/coaches-corner-kamdyn-mcintosh
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His game against Geelong was one of his better games. His tackles stuck which was really pleasing to see.
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I thought he was poor again...still misses far more tackles than he sticks....and don't think I've ever seen player who gets so completely wrong-footed by his opponents so easily and as often as he does....should call him Veruca Salt with the amount of candy he's been sold over the years.... :shh
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I thought he was poor again...still misses far more tackles than he sticks....and don't think I've ever seen player who gets so completely wrong-footed by his opponents so easily and as often as he does....should call him Veruca Salt with the amount of candy he's been sold over the years.... :shh
McIntosh has a bigger turning circle than my late dads old VH Valiant stationwagon. :rollin
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I get annoyed when he gives away frees in the oppo's forward fifty for blatant holding...bout as subtle as a brick.
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Arguably his best game in a long, long while.... :shh
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Reckon Smith will get sanctioned for throwing a punch at him?
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Reckon Smith will get sanctioned for throwing a punch at him?
Deserves to go simply for being dumb enough to throw one a week after the Gaff incident. If that had connected it could have broken Kmac's jaw and ended his season costing him potentially another premiership medallion.
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He copped a $1500 fine.
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Kmac loves his QFs. Was one of our best last year against Geelong and was good again tonight especially early when the heat was on being our surprise goalkicker with 3 goals.
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Awesome performance.
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One of the best games he’s played. :clapping
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Brilliant tonight.
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One of the best games he’s played. :clapping
Agree....,and needed to ... :shh
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Just plays his role ;D :clapping
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One of the best games he’s played. :clapping
Agree....,and needed to ... :shh
You're kidding aren't you?
Last 4 weeks has been simply awesome. Did you happen to hear what Riewoldt said about him in the presser? Has become a very good player. Its official
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.............Hutton's Footy Franks are best..... :shh
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Kamdyn McIntosh credits VFL spell for Richmond finals heroics
Daniel Cherny
The Age
7 Sept. 2018
Kamdyn McIntosh credits a mid-year VFL spell for his improved senior form which culminated in an unlikely three-goal cameo in Thursday night’s qualifying final win over Hawthorn.
The wingman, a member of Richmond’s premiership side last year, was dropped for three matches after this year’s round 13 win over Geelong, after a quiet three-match period in which he had failed to register 10 disposals in a game.
Sent back to the reserves, the Western Australian, primarily known as a defensive midfielder, was encouraged to win his own ball, and his figures have been better since returning in the round 18 game against St Kilda.
“It was a bit hard at the time, as it is for anybody going through that. But I just needed to work on a couple of things in my game, and just a little bit of confidence back I guess,” McIntosh told The Age.
“I went back there and I played a different role in the VFL, and I think it helped me go back into the seniors and keep that performance.
“It was a bit more on-ball. Put me through the midfield, give me a look in there. I’ve never really played through the midfield before and in the VFL I played in the VFL all three games.
“I learnt a lot playing that role, just to be able to hunt the ball like 'Cotchy' [Trent Cotchin] and 'Dusty' [Dustin Martin] and Dion Prestia do, and just learn off them for three weeks which is really good for me.”
McIntosh had kicked just 16 goals from 72 AFL games before Thursday night, but kicked the first goal of the game against the Hawks, getting to three by early in the third term.
He couldn’t quite believe it.
“A career-high for me, so pretty happy with that. The boys helped me out. It just goes to show, if you play the system and the way the team trains each week, you get reward for effort.
“The second and third ones, I was pretty pumped to get those, because I don’t really get a second or third one in a game.”
McIntosh said the pressure for spots at Punt Road had helped maintain standards as the Tigers vie for back-to-back premierships.
“You look at Brandon Ellis, Sam Lloyd, Connor Menadue’s playing good football in the VFL. Those boys are real stiff to not get a gig for tonight’s game. It just goes to show the competitiveness within the team is there.
“But we’re also really tight outside the club, and we don’t hold it against each other. We’re such good mates, and whoever plays at the end of the day, we accept that and we move on. We’re such a family here.”
The Tigers appeared to escape the Hawthorn game without serious injuries. Alex Rance was hobbling in the rooms, while Jack Graham was heavily iced, but both played out the game and are expected to be available for the preliminary final in a fortnight, in which the Tigers’ opponents will be one of West Coast, Collingwood, Sydney or Greater Western Sydney.
Coach Damien Hardwick has however kept the door ajar for Ellis to return for that next assignment, after he was dropped ahead of Thursday night’s game.
https://www.theage.com.au/sport/afl/kamdyn-mcintosh-credits-vfl-spell-for-richmond-finals-heroics-20180906-p50297.html
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Kamdyn McIntosh, who has been a regular in the senior side on the wing until his omission five weeks ago, is in the squad of 26 after spending time in defence.
"When things aren't going as well as we'd like sometimes, we want to be able to flick his magnet around," Hardwick said.
"Kamdyn's got great size, great skill, great endurance so we wanted to improve his flexibility. Kamdyn is a great team player, so we spoke [that] it may be one step back to go two steps forward."
Source: AFL website (https://www.afl.com.au/news/2019-08-23/we-just-have-to-win-hardwick-keeps-it-simple-for-lions)
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SEN (so add grain of salt) reckons McIntosh is "exploring his options"... :shh
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REPORTS: Tigers defender a chance to leave, as midfielder is all but gone
Could McIntosh be out the door this trade period?
Stephen Marson
EDITOR
August 28, 2019 - 11:52 am
Richmond defender Kamdyn McIntosh may reportedly be pried out of Tigerland, if he doesn’t get back into the Tigers’ side during the finals.
McIntosh was a mainstay in Richmond’s side up until round 17, but hasn’t played a senior game since then, after being dropped to the VFL.
Herald Sun reporter Sam Edmund believes McIntosh’s future with the Tigers isn’t guaranteed, despite the 25-year-old signing a two-year extension with the club earlier this year.
“Kamdyn McIntosh is interesting, he re-signed two months ago at Richmond on a two-year deal, I think he might be gettable though,” he told SEN Breakfast.
“He’s out of the side, his last game was Round 17, he’s out of favour suddenly. If he doesn’t play finals, watch this space.
“If a club came for McIntosh, his head might be turned.”
https://www.zerohanger.com/reports-tigers-defender-a-chance-to-leave-as-midfielder-is-all-but-gone-34026/
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His head might be turned but he is contracted for two more years so the deal would have to be excellent for us to agree to it.
I’d imagine WP would have better info on this..... :shh
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Would be a shame to lose KMac, but we have the power here. Worse things could happen but I was hoping to see him play the last few weeks.
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REPORTS: Tigers defender a chance to leave, as midfielder is all but gone
Could McIntosh be out the door this trade period?
Stephen Marson
EDITOR
August 28, 2019 - 11:52 am
Richmond defender Kamdyn McIntosh may reportedly be pried out of Tigerland, if he doesn’t get back into the Tigers’ side during the finals.
McIntosh was a mainstay in Richmond’s side up until round 17, but hasn’t played a senior game since then, after being dropped to the VFL.
Herald Sun reporter Sam Edmund believes McIntosh’s future with the Tigers isn’t guaranteed, despite the 25-year-old signing a two-year extension with the club earlier this year.
“Kamdyn McIntosh is interesting, he re-signed two months ago at Richmond on a two-year deal, I think he might be gettable though,” he told SEN Breakfast.
“He’s out of the side, his last game was Round 17, he’s out of favour suddenly. If he doesn’t play finals, watch this space.
“If a club came for McIntosh, his head might be turned.”
https://www.zerohanger.com/reports-tigers-defender-a-chance-to-leave-as-midfielder-is-all-but-gone-34026/
This is basically an opinion piece with no evidence.
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McIntosh Short and Castagna to Gold Coast. Pick 2 thanks and they can have Townsend and Butler for Free.
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Ill stuffing spew, he is a good player stupid to throw him away, Ellis np but not Mac
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No chance IMO.
Ill stuffing spew, he is a good player stupid to throw him away, Ellis np but not Mac
Don't worry owly it's BS, but there is a reason multiple clubs are floating big dollars towards the BEllis. Don't you EVER drag him down in my presence :shh
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Theyll all put out like Carlton except for Gold Coast who are desperate.
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KMAC no chance to leave
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There ya go - straight from his brother PMAC... :shh
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KMAC no chance to leave
Agreed...made up article for mine :shh
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PMAC knows all.
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Down on confidence, you don't lose your ability, not getting his hands on the ball enough, wasn't backing himself, too defensive
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Down on confidence, you don't lose your ability, not getting his hands on the ball enough, wasn't backing himself, too defensive
Had an opportunity to dominate in a lesser league by stamping his influence in a vfl final and demand the coaching staff he’s more valuable than Ellis.
.....he failed miserably.
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Down on confidence, you don't lose your ability, not getting his hands on the ball enough, wasn't backing himself, too defensive
Can't be too defensive when that's what they are asking you to do
Down on confidence, you don't lose your ability, not getting his hands on the ball enough, wasn't backing himself, too defensive
Had an opportunity to dominate in a lesser league by stamping his influence in a vfl final and demand the coaching staff he’s more valuable than Ellis.
.....he failed miserably.
And may be he didn't.
Maybe just maybe he played the role the coaching staff wanted him to play, you know the folks he had to prove his value
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Oh, then I wonder why he's is in the 2's
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Oh, then I wonder why he's is in the 2's
To borrow a Dimma phrase when teaching a player to play a new position
"Sometimes you need to take a step back to take 2 steps forward"
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The good old half step times
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Down on confidence, you don't lose your ability, not getting his hands on the ball enough, wasn't backing himself, too defensive
Can't be too defensive when that's what they are asking you to do
Down on confidence, you don't lose your ability, not getting his hands on the ball enough, wasn't backing himself, too defensive
Had an opportunity to dominate in a lesser league by stamping his influence in a vfl final and demand the coaching staff he’s more valuable than Ellis.
.....he failed miserably.
And may be he didn't.
Maybe just maybe he played the role the coaching staff wanted him to play, you know the folks he had to prove his value
Cmon WP. What position is he really after?
He’s got Buckley’s chance of playing in defence considering how stable it is back there and how well it’s functions.
It’s either wing or bust.
On the weekend he has an opportunity to dominate the wing in a final and stamp his dominance showing everyone he’s a better player than vfl.
From reports he didn’t do this and because the whole team played crap for three quarters he was moved defensive to try to bring him into the game as he was unsighted for the first three, fortunately Nank, Pickett, Butler and a few others dominated the last quarter.
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Cmon WP. What position is he really after?
He’s got Buckley’s chance of playing in defence considering how stable it is back there and how well it’s functions.
It’s either wing or bust.
On the weekend he has an opportunity to dominate the wing in a final and stamp his dominance showing everyone he’s a better player than vfl.
From reports he didn’t do this and because the whole team played crap for three quarters he was moved defensive to try to bring him into the game as he was unsighted for the first three, fortunately Nank, Pickett, Butler and a few others dominated the last quarter.
He plays the position he is told to play, he like every other player he doesn't get a choice
I am telling you that at VFL level he is being told to play half back not wing. So how can he "stamp his dominance" in a position he isn't playing :huh
Which part of it don't you get?
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Cmon WP. What position is he really after?
He’s got Buckley’s chance of playing in defence considering how stable it is back there and how well it’s functions.
It’s either wing or bust.
On the weekend he has an opportunity to dominate the wing in a final and stamp his dominance showing everyone he’s a better player than vfl.
From reports he didn’t do this and because the whole team played crap for three quarters he was moved defensive to try to bring him into the game as he was unsighted for the first three, fortunately Nank, Pickett, Butler and a few others dominated the last quarter.
He plays the position he is told to play, he like every other player he doesn't get a choice
I am telling you that at VFL level he is being told to play half back not wing. So how can he "stamp his dominance" in a position he isn't playing :huh
Which part of it don't you get?
Even if it’s true that he’s tried as a defender, whose place would he be earmarked for?
I’d concede to possibly replacing Short
Any half back flanker is required to be a offensive runner much like a wingman whilst still being accountable in defence. Did he make a statement on Saturday demanding selection?
6 disposals - 2 i50s & 1 r50. I don’t think so.
Reality says that his best chance is either Ellis wing or Caddy wing.
We all know Ellis’ deficiencies and Caddy is painfully slow, so his best chance will be back where he is the most useful. That said and as I already said earlier is that he had an opportunity but failed miserably even if it was in defence.
I’m not sure why your defending such a mediocre Performance?
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Hawks also chasing Kamdyn McIntosh. Richmond will be stacked with picks.
https://twitter.com/mwilson_44/status/1169097095996792832
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Premiership player, commands a high price thanks very much!
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Could be like a new expansion club's draft for us at this rate... :shh
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Hawks also chasing Kamdyn McIntosh. Richmond will be stacked with picks.
https://twitter.com/mwilson_44/status/1169097095996792832
Future 1st round thanks. He is young and a premiership playerm
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In all seriousness- what would you let him go for?
Me, a pick between 25 to 35 would be about right IMO.
Combine his cash and Bellis’ cash and trade for Laird.
Too easy!
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Wellingham got pick 20 for Collingwood.
I'd expect similar if he went.
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Send him to North for Sam Durdin.
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I think he can be in our best 22, I wouldn't trade. I thought his first half of the year was really good.
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Keep for mine. Should be playing before Ellis anyway IMO.
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For me I really like McIntosh and what he brings, but what this year has shown me more than anything else is it isn’t always the better you know.
McIntosh is a good player but not a great player and if he does leave there is the potential to replace/find a champion take his spot.
If he left it gives another young guy a chance in his position.
Sydney Stack has shown me there are guns out there that can completely change the club if given the chance.
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McIntosh is a role player who plays his role well in our team.
His pace and endurance are important to our pressure game, and I would have thought we’d want to keep him.
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The archetypal "good ordinary player".....handy to have around but easily expendable.... :shh
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i dont get the angst about this bloke going.
Name one thing he does to a very high level i cant think of one.
Running hard and runnining straight just doesnt cut it theres so much more to the game than this
For a bloke who has played so much on a wing his numbers over the duration, that is they have been constant are poor.
Couple this with the panic kicks the regular fumbles when under pressure the lack of composure the paltry amount of ball he gets even as a defensive wing he is more than expendable.
In saying that id have him in the team before a bloke like Ellis every day of the week.
For me its simple every single team has room for improvement and that includes us. W e need to evolve and keep evolving by weeding out blokes like Ellis and unfortunate to say McIntosh.
Theres plenty of blokes who have big holes in their games who have been around for awhile and just have not addressed the deficiencies.
Good ordinary sums him up and it implies we have to find a bit better and improve.
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Lets face it, it's highly unlikely his trade value ever going to be higher... :shh
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Premiership player, adds serious currency! Personally I'd like to keep him but would prefer to try Balta and see if he can do a better job
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Big chance to come in next week i reckon
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run with role?
has the tank, has experience.
yes for me
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Pretty good test for who comes in is the VFL GF..... :shh
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^
Bloody oath
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Man I don't wanna lose Macca, he is a tiger
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A very handy but severely flawed and easily replaced fringe player with premiership medal- the exact sort you should be looking to trade while they still have currency... :shh
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Yes Diode your assessment of Mcintosh is probably as good as your assessment of Soldo. :lol :lol :lol
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So you're saying he's flawless player that's not easily replaced? Ok then..... :shh
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Can't have 22 stars in your side guys has to be those role players.
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I think hes a chance because hes been to the big dance before, hes an experienced player now and he is a big runner who has often gotten forward and kicked a goal or two. He can also play a run with role if needed.
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me too ramps. I love ross but the last game he played seemed to be way out of his depth for the minute.
Happy to be proven wrong.
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I think there are 2 main questions:
1) Are we going to struggle without him as we have no other options?
2) Does he have value?
I think 1) is pretty obvious but 2) is dependant on what other teams are willing to pay. No harm in floating his name
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Kamdyn McIntosh (Richmond)
Signed a new deal but will likely miss out on the AFL Grand Final as well as the VFL premiership after being held over. Would a club like Fremantle, which is set to lose Brad Hill and Ed Langdon as running power, consider dragging him home?
https://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/afl/trades-unplugged-latest-afl-trade-free-agency-contract-news/news-story/3ac24a04dea96dbca62a2258207c9964
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Cerra thanks
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Cerra thanks
I could live with that trade. Fremantle might want "steak knives"
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Cerra thanks
I could live with that trade. Fremantle might want "steak knives"
Throw in a 3rd rounder, or any of:
Towner
Moore
Miller
Aarts
Butler
Garthwaite
Markov
Menadue
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Contracted Tiger “looking at his options” for 2020: Cleary
By SEN
1 Oct 2019
Richmond wingman Kamdyn McIntosh could be on the move this trade period.
According to AFL.com.au’s Mitch Cleary, McIntosh is “looking at his options” despite signing a two-year contract extension in July.
The 25-year-old fell out of favour in the second half of the year and was overlooked for Richmond’s 89-point Grand Final win over GWS.
“Kamdyn McIntosh is an interesting one,” Cleary told Telstra AFL Trade Radio.
“He’s re-signed; he is contracted for the Tigers for next year at least – he is definitely looking at his options.
“I’m not sure of any concrete suitors for Kamdyn McIntosh, but it’s a watch this space on him."
McIntosh was part of Richmond’s 2017 premiership and has played 90 games since debuting in 2015.
https://www.sen.com.au/news/2019/09/30/contracted-tiger-looking-at-his-options-for-2020-cleary/
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Hmmm 90 games. Might need to hold on to him and get him to 100
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I reckon Cleary is just stating the absolute flipping obvious and trying to link it to Kamdyn’s obvious disappointment at missing the GF.
Of course he will be looking at his options. He will want feedback about his place in the team going forward given he got dropped and couldn’t force his way back in. But to insinuate he might leave because he wasn’t selected for the grand final is an abolute sleight on a bloke who is a fine clubman at a club that prides itself on selflessness.
Amateurish stuff Cleary you stuffing sad jerk off.
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SEN news just said Kmac has been linked to Freo.
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Want to keep him, but would let go for their pick 26 or trade for Cerra.
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Another fringe Tiger could be on way out
Sam Edmund
Herald Sun
4 Oct 2019
Kamdyn McIntosh is open to leaving Richmond if a rival club presents the right deal.
McIntosh signed a new two-year deal with the Tigers in July, but was dropped only a week after putting pen to paper and couldn’t get back into the senior side.
The wingman’s increasing frustration was compounded by the Tigers’ decision to withdraw him from the VFL Grand Final as insurance for an AFL Grand Final he wasn’t selected for.
McIntosh, 25, was running second in Richmond’s best-and-fairest count after Round 8 and was hurt by missing out on a premiership of either kind.
He leaves for an overseas holiday on Sunday also open to the idea of leaving Punt Road in search of regular senior football.
McIntosh looms as the perfect target for Fremantle and new coach Justin Longmuir, hailing from Perth and coming through Peel Thunder.
The looming departure of wingers Ed Langdon and Brad Hill has created a need for speed at the Dockers, who are also interested in McIntosh’s Victoria-born Richmond teammate Connor Menadue.
McIntosh has played 90 games for the Tigers and was a member of their 2017 premiership side.
But the emergence of Marlion Pickett and Sydney Stack has seemingly limited his opportunities under coach Damien Hardwick, while Josh Caddy and Shane Edwards are playing on a wing.
Highly rated father-son Patrick Naish will also push for selection next year.
Hawthorn great Dermott Brereton said McIntosh could not be blamed if he left the Tigers.
“Kamdyn McIntosh, if one of possibly 17 clubs turn around and say, ‘Would you like to come to us? Here’s $100,000 more or $200,000 more’ he will have to question it because he’ll think that loyalty can only carry you so far,” Brereton told Fox Footy.
“And if he still wants to stay a Tiger, put up a statue of him.
“He’s the best clubman in the AFL.”
https://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/afl/teams/richmond/kamdyn-mcintosh-open-to-leaving-richmond-if-given-the-opportunity/news-story/cbd4d709ff8e3ae564fa132fbd8d2826
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Kamdyn McIntosh is another who missed out on September glory, however Balme said the club was keen to keep him.
“He’s contracted and we’re keen for him to stay and we think that’s what he should do,” Balme said.
“But if somebody came at him with a really significant offer that he wanted to think about, we certainly wouldn’t dismiss is straight away.
“But I think it’d be pretty unlikely for him to go.”
https://www.3aw.com.au/richmond-footy-boss-says-a-couple-of-tigers-would-be-mad-not-consider-a-fresh-start/
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Kamdyn McIntosh is another who missed out on September glory, however Balme said the club was keen to keep him.
“He’s contracted and we’re keen for him to stay and we think that’s what he should do,” Balme said.
“But if somebody came at him with a really significant offer that he wanted to think about, we certainly wouldn’t dismiss is straight away.
“But I think it’d be pretty unlikely for him to go.”
https://www.3aw.com.au/richmond-footy-boss-says-a-couple-of-tigers-would-be-mad-not-consider-a-fresh-start
Good...too good to let go after significant investment by the club regards to his development. A solid Richmond Man :shh
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"We're keen for him to stay"
Richmond football boss Neale Balme says the Tigers will entertain offers for Kamdyn McIntosh but want him to stay at Punt Road.
https://twitter.com/tim_michell/status/1181028808385679360
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McIntosh wants to stay and reports he wants out after missing the GF have been greatly media exaggerted (take a bow Mitch Cleary).
Source is as good as it gets, very close relative.
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McIntosh wants to stay and reports he wants out after missing the GF have been greatly media exaggerted (take a bow Mitch Cleary).
Source is as good as it gets, very close relative.
Exactly. Just lazy, shallow journalism. Finds an easy narrative to exploit. But with all the trade work happening, no one will ever follow it up or hold him accountable.
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McIntosh wants to stay and reports he wants out after missing the GF have been greatly media exaggerted (take a bow Mitch Cleary).
Source is as good as it gets, very close relative.
They were saying Ross might want a trade after missing out too :lol
He's a first year player!
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Tigers open to McIntosh offers
Tim Michell at Marvel Stadium
Herald-Sun
7 October 2019
Richmond says it will consider offers for wingman Kamdyn McIntosh but remains hopeful he will be at Punt Road in 2020.
McIntosh signed a new two-year deal with the Tigers in July but was one of the hardluck stories of the finals when he missed out on the club’s VFL and AFL premierships.
The 25-year-old was held over from the VFL decider after Jack Graham was injured in Richmond’s preliminary final win over Geelong, only for Marlion Pickett to debut in the Grand Final.
Tigers football boss Neil Balme said on Monday the club wanted to hold onto McIntosh but would consider the right offer for the 90-gamer.
"We are keen for him to stay. But if someone is really keen and makes a really big offer and they want to do something with him and he's keen to pursue it, we wouldn't dismiss it completely,” Balme said.
“But if it was up to us now we would say he is a required contracted player. Again you've got to take the individual into account as well as the club.”
https://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/afl/afl-trade-daily-every-deal-and-whisper-on-day-one-of-the-exchange-period-monday-october-7-2019/live-coverage/181780fec0080bf5a6560c19de4e6d68
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The Herald-Sun has most likely mixed up Kmac with Menadue but they've got Kmac to Freo as one of the 25 outstanding trades yet to be done.
Here’s a look at some of the mooted deals which still need to be done:
25. Kamdyn McIntosh to Fremantle
https://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/afl/afl-trade-daily-rolling-trade-news-and-whispers-from-across-australia-for-tuesday-october-15-2019/live-coverage/995f3f794cb002216b5b9a3b2a9a7ee9
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>:(
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McIntosh to remain at Tigerland
By Pete Ryan
The Age
16 Oct 2019
Tigers' wingman Kamdyn McIntosh looks set to remain with Richmond despite being overlooked for the Grand Final. He extended his contract until the end of 2021 late in the year but only played one senior game after the deal was announced.
Although relatively happy with the Tigers McIntosh was understood to be open to a move if another club was able to provide the promise of greater opportunities however with nothing concrete coming to fruition he will back himself to win his spot back as the club attempts to go back to back.
https://www.theage.com.au/sport/afl/live-afl-trade-period-deadline-day-20191016-p5312y.html
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Deserves a second chance at a VFL flag.... :shh
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Based on the GF team, I'd be happy for him to take BEllis' spot.
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Based on the GF team, Rance & Stack will come in for BEllis & Short.... :shh
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Baker and bolton still questionable imo. Stack was better in the backline than baker, thats not to take away from bakers efforts though.
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Both far superior to Short....:shh
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Kamdyn was never going...... :shh
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Our rep. on SEN just said Kmac was never going. It was all just speculation.
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Glad he's staying
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Glad he's staying
Me too :clapping
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Kamdyn was never going...... :shh
That is correct
Loyalty still exists in footy
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Rubbish - fact is that nobody offered what we thought was fair trade for him...Balme said as much himself... :shh
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Rubbish - fact is that nobody offered what we thought was fair trade for him...Balme said as much himself... :shh
Not rubbish
Contracted player has to agree to any trade. He didn't want to leave
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Doubt Balme would've publicly said they might be open to offers if the right one came along had McIntosh flat out said no from the start.. :shh
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I’m glad he stayed as I like his niggle.
But he will have to improve quickly to be in our best 25 IMO.
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Glad he is still here.
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Nobody wanted him so he stays.
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They did but only for next to nothing... :shh
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They did but only for next to nothing... :shh
similar to SSP in that regard :shh
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Yeah nah not similar at all.... :shh :shh
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They did but only for next to nothing... :shh
Typical BS from some oppo teams.
'He wasn't your best 22 for the GF so he should be free' garbage.
Internally we know he has worth and I'm glad we didn't sell him out.
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I can't post the link on my phone but the HeraldSun has an article about Kmac talking about missing two GFs in two weeks last year.
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:'(
It's behind their paywall
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Kmac was our equal highest disposal winner tonight.
18 disposals (12k, 6h, 8c, 10u, 72% eff.)
5 marks
2 tackles
1 clearance
4 inside 50s
400 metres gained
8 intercepts
1 goal assist
6 score involvements
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Played well I thought. Was composed most of the time.
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Kmac was our equal highest disposal winner tonight.
18 disposals (12k, 6h, 8c, 10u, 72% eff.)
5 marks
2 tackles
1 clearance
4 inside 50s
400 metres gained
8 intercepts
1 goal assist
6 score involvements
Nice game and is having a good year. Happy he is starting to take marks around the ground.
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Arguably one of Kmac's best games last night.
15 disposals (12k, 3h, 3c, 13u, 80% eff.)
9 marks
2 tackles
7 inside 50s
5 intercepts
483 metres gained
3 score involvements
1 goal assist
1 goal
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Good game for Kmac
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Playing with more freedom, looks to be enjoying his footy. Perhaps the coach has told him he’s there to stay.
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Kamdyn reminds me of the old days when wed have a rugged type players who did a good job for the team.
I dont understand our supporters on forums trying to get rid of blokes like McIntosh and Graham. They arent superstars but they heart and soul Richmond players and id rather have them than have them traded out for blokes who may or may not be any good.
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Kamdyn reminds me of the old days when wed have a rugged type players who did a good job for the team.
I dont understand our supporters on forums trying to get rid of blokes like McIntosh and Graham. They arent superstars but they heart and soul Richmond players and id rather have them than have them traded out for blokes who may or may not be any good.
Both are somewhat expendable but for now I think KMac is much more important due to his tank and two-way running. Very good defensive player.
Graham I am happy to keep or trade if the right deal comes up. Not always best 22 but never far from it.
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Wingmen have become important again the way footy is being played this year. This probably suits Kmac with his two-way running.
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https://www.richmondfc.com.au/news/798453/mcintosh-s-milestone
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Congratulations KMac. Glad we kept you and playing well on the wing like I knew you would. Much better than Brando.
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Congratulations KMac. Glad we kept you and playing well on the wing like I knew you would. Much better than Brando.
^^^^ :clapping
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Another serviceable game. Doing his role well.
If he could lower his eyes and hit up a forward that would be better.
Otherwise a good game again.
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read: https://www.richmondfc.com.au/news/804964/teammates-point-to-prove-spurring-on-mcintosh
Another decent return for Kmac last night:
16 disposals (13k, 3h, 5c, 11u, 75% eff.)
7 marks
1 clearance
7 inside 50s
441 metres gained
2 intercepts
1 tackle
4 score involvements
2 goal assists
1 goal
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Kmac continues his solid form on a wing last night. Kept the Cat wingers quiet while racking up another 406 metres gained (2nd best) and 6 inside 50s.
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Having a really good season.
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Doing a fine job. That wing is his now.
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Playing like a bloke who doesn't want to be left out again from another GF/flag :yep.
Classy finish of that goal too :clapping.
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Hes been good this year. Like hisvwork. Running hard linking up well. Deserves his spot in the team.
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Doing what you’re told is an underrated skill
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To be honest thought he was gone reinventing himself bigtime and super important now.
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Kamdyn McIntosh
Had a couple of scoring shots from his seven touches, but that is far below his usual output.
Rating: 5
Source: Foxsports (https://www.foxsports.com.au/afl/afl-finals-2020-richmond-player-ratings-vs-brisbane-lions-second-qualifying-final-reviews-stats-tigers-best-and-worst-players/news-story/156df1b76297836ac1f12af8237ff86c)
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Kamdyn McIntosh
The Richmond wingman racked up 19 disposals and six inside 50s, slotting an impressive goal in the first quarter to end as one of the club’s better players on the night.
Rating: 7
Source: Foxsports (https://www.foxsports.com.au/afl/afl-finals-2020-richmond-player-ratings-vs-st-kilda-second-semi-final-reviews-stats-best-and-worst-players/news-story/afdeaa6b7f13cced41d21c91e03b900e)
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Kamdyn McIntosh
Another who struggled with the ball in hand, going at below 50 per cent efficiency. Still, held his own.
Rating: 6
Source: Foxsports (https://www.foxsports.com.au/afl/afl-finals-2020-richmond-player-ratings-vs-port-adelaide-first-preliminary-final-reviews-stats-best-and-worst-players/news-story/5a240d072bb6873234eb176397899eaf)
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Kamdyn McIntosh
Another who struggled with the ball in hand, going at below 50 per cent efficiency. Still, held his own.
Rating: 6
Source: Foxsports (https://www.foxsports.com.au/afl/afl-finals-2020-richmond-player-ratings-vs-port-adelaide-first-preliminary-final-reviews-stats-best-and-worst-players/news-story/5a240d072bb6873234eb176397899eaf)
Sometimes as Dimma used it isn't about the number of possessions it's about the role and the position you play
He played his role perfectly
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6 is harsh. 7 at least.
50% in wet conditions but ran hard all night, created an option up the ground. Certainly wasn't beaten.
One of the first named every week.
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One Richmond star is having no problem finding a distraction from 'hub life' in the lead up to Saturday's grand final. Kamdyn McIntosh is curing the boredom with ingenuity - and a paper clip.
@FootyRhino #7AFL #7NEWS
https://twitter.com/7NewsMelbourne/status/1318821171417153537
Paper clip -> pack of cards.
Dusty signed boots -> boat
Sold boat to Dimma -> Dimma offering an inner sanctum experience.
Kmac aiming for a Ferrari lol.
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One Richmond star is having no problem finding a distraction from 'hub life' in the lead up to Saturday's grand final. Kamdyn McIntosh is curing the boredom with ingenuity - and a paper clip.
@FootyRhino #7AFL #7NEWS
https://twitter.com/7NewsMelbourne/status/1318821171417153537
Paper clip -> pack of cards.
Dusty signed boots -> boat
Sold boat to Dimma -> Dimma offering an inner sanctum experience.
Kmac aiming for a Ferrari lol.
Kmac is a different cat :laugh:.
Main thing is he's been in good form this year on a wing. Hopefully it continues for one more game. Deserves his shot at another premiership.
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Been very important on the wing his height and tuffness.
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Has been super since he came back from being dropped earlier in the year and I was one who didn’t have him as best 22.
He has just been monstering his smaller opponents and marking strongly too.
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AFL player ingeniously trades a paperclip for a boat in QLD hub
Eamonn Tiernan
7Sport
21 October 2020 7:02 pm
Richmond player Kamdyn McIntosh is well on his way to securing a Ferrari for next to nothing after applying the practices he learnt in an online video about trading up from a paperclip.
The aim of the game is to trade objects with people, starting with a paperclip, and obtain the most valuable item possible.
McIntosh may have a grand final to play against Geelong on Saturday as the Tigers chase their third flag in four AFL seasons - but the savvy defender is also focused on his side hustle in the Queensland hub.
“We were just sitting around the dinner table one night having a laugh and I said, ‘Why doesn’t someone do the paperclip story’,” McIntosh told 7NEWS.
“There’s a documentary of a guy in America who trades a red paperclip all the way up to a two-story farm house.
“Later that night I was in bed and I thought, you know what I’m just going to put a paperclip up on Facebook Marketplace.”
After 30 bids, McIntosh had swapped the paperclip for a Rubik’s cube and a deck of cards and he headed to superstar teammate Dustin Martin.
“I never played in a grand final, it’s probably not my space so might be unpopular ... but tradition is big in the AFL."
McIntosh managed to trade his cards and cube for a signed pair of Martin’s boots. He then went back online and traded the priceless footwear for a small boat.
Not done yet, McIntosh offered his coach Damian Hardwick the boat in exchange for a day shadowing the Richmond mentor inside the Tigers inner sanctum.
Hardwick agreed and now McIntosh is looking to trade that experience for a car.
“Why don’t we go paperclip to a red Ferrari,” McIntosh said.
https://7news.com.au/sport/afl/afl-player-ingeniously-trades-a-paperclip-for-a-boat-in-qld-hub-c-1430780
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'Leave no stone unturned': Tiger wills himself back into premiership picture
Kamdyn McIntosh was an odd man out last year, but the wingman's persistence and an unusual pre-season has him one win away from fulfilment
By Sarah Black
afl.com.au
23 October 2020
LAST year was the most difficult of Kamdyn McIntosh's footballing career, but a few runs in the Utah snow have done the world of good.
As Richmond won the AFL-VFL premiership double in 2019, just five players on the entire list missed out on playing in a Grand Final victory.
Jake Aarts was suspended, Jack Graham and Jack Higgins were injured (the latter recovering from a brain bleed), while Jack Ross and McIntosh had been withdrawn from the VFL decider as injury cover for the AFL team.
Neither made the final 22, with Marlion Pickett instead writing his name in folklore as an AFL Grand Final debutant, replacing the wounded Graham.
At 25 and with 90 AFL games under his belt at the time, McIntosh was comfortably the most senior player to miss out.
"Personally, it was probably one of my toughest years I've been through, but it was an opportunity though for a player like Marlion Pickett – who's gone through so much hardship in his life – to have a dream come true," McIntosh told afl.com.au.
"'Dimma' (coach Damien Hardwick) is really good on reflecting on the journey of where we're going, and not just the Grand Final.
"I very much did feel a part of that Grand Final, even though I wasn't playing. I felt like that week I was able to be up and about for the boys. I knew I was there to help them out."
McIntosh was contracted for the 2020 season, and there were reports – which he termed "inaccurate" – he was potentially looking elsewhere after his season ended in dual disappointment.
"When you go through something like last year, there's always thoughts that pop up – where the club sees me in the side, do they value me, or do they need me? But at the end of the season, I ultimately wanted to stay," McIntosh said.
McIntosh's form has been very solid this year. In shortened matches, his numbers have barely budged, with average disposals going from 14.1 to 13.6, and marks (a strength of his game) slightly falling from 4.0 to 3.8.
The winger's positioning, and his ability to hold and create width across the ground, has been crucial to Richmond's trademark scrambled forward movement.
It has been a bounce-back year that started about as far from Punt Road as you can get. McIntosh spent two weeks over summer in Utah visiting former teammate Ben Lennon, who is studying and playing college gridiron there. While Lennon was busy with classes, McIntosh ran, often in snow, at 1100 metres above sea level.
"I went away knowing I still had two years at Richmond, and I was asking myself what I wanted it to look like," he said.
"I went there with the intent to train hard, get my body right, so I could come back in pre-season and really hit it hard.
"That's what I did. I set personal bests in the gym, on the running track, I was training in the backline and learning another role."
A syndesmosis injury in his right ankle at the end of January initially caused some anxiety, considering McIntosh had missed the majority of 2016 with the same injury.
"But when the physios told me it was an eight-week injury, I was rapt," he said.
"I went back to work, and I wanted to let the coaches know that I wasn't done and I wanted to play for the footy club again, leave no stone unturned.
"I found a little bit more hunger and intent in my training, rather than just going through the motions."
https://www.afl.com.au/news/520491/-leave-no-stone-unturned-tiger-wills-himself-back-into-premiership-picture
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Kamdyn McIntosh – 5
An uncharacteristically quiet game from McIntosh, with the ball often being played on the opposing wing. Slotted a beautiful (or as he would say, "un-bloody-believable") goal from outside 50 in the first term.
Source: AFL website (https://www.afl.com.au/news/521174/tigers-player-ratings-no-passengers-on-the-tiger-train)
Kamdyn McIntosh
Gave the Tigers a two-goal lead early in the game with a nice snag on the run despite having a number of options available closer to goal. His work on the outside was important.
Rating: 6
Source: Foxsports (https://www.foxsports.com.au/afl/afl-grand-final-2020-richmond-vs-geelong-dustin-martin-player-ratings-tigers-stats-best-and-worst-players-afl-finals-gabba/news-story/2c23bd9c6b85150e3f828938dc9c0006)
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His running has been key to our success this year. Deserves his spot and second medal.
Good on you KMac. I never wanted to trade you ever and this is why.
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Kamdyn McIntosh missed out on playing in last year's Grand Final.
McIntosh charged into the pre-season with a full head of steam on the back of his omission, looking to reclaim his place in the side.
The 26-year-old told afl.com.au he spent the off-season training in Utah, and now a two-time premiership winner, it's fair to say the results have paid off in full.
"I'm speechless," he told the website.
"Playing in the 2017 grand final I knew what I was missing out on last year and it was really hard.
"To play tonight and win is just amazing.
"I think about the hard road I had to go down of not getting a gig (last year) and working my way back into the side, it was pretty hard.
"I thought not playing in that team and the last five games of that season, my head was on the chopping board and they might be moving on to younger players ... which sees me out of the side.
"I had a little chip on my shoulder and wanted to come back and cement my spot again. This is just unbelievable."
https://www.mandurahmail.com.au/story/6984694/mcintosh-left-speechless-after-second-afl-grand-final-victory/
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Just watched his video on the website- the best one yet!
What a year for him personally and what a bloke he is, a true Tiger in everyway :clapping
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He reminds me of Tucky
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Personally i dont think his season was too much different to last season or the yr before that or the yr before that etc.
Two time premiership player makes him a fan favorite and it does paper over the cracks.
Just because he is a premiership player it doesnt mean he is a very good player. I would describe him as a limited battler who has done very well for himself at a club at the right time right circumstances.
Just my opinion and even with the success we have had, he is very much a player we should be looking to find an upgrade on.
Remains a chronic fumbler ordinary kick whos only redeeming features imo are his hard running both ways and his great size for a running player.
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Vintage claw. The guy plays his position perfectly, resurrects his career, in a covid covid compromised season and you’re basically saying dud delist because he’s not a 5x Brownlow medallist
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I didn’t have him in our best 22 but after he was restored to the side this season he was very very good highlighted by his top5 placing in the best and fairest. His 2 way running and strength/size are perfect on the wing. He often just bullies the opposing winger to take the mark/gather the ball. Also you were very harsh on his kicking skills, he is far from the worst in our team.
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He was better this year without doubt
Anyone thinking otherwise is in fantasy land
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Vintage claw. The guy plays his position perfectly, resurrects his career, in a covid covid compromised season and you’re basically saying dud delist because he’s not a 5x Brownlow medallist
LOL plays his position perfectly. What position would that be and what are the requirements for the position?
I watch this bloke just as closely as the next bloke and im sorry i think he is ordinary.
So i disagree with everyone else what can i do to back up my statement other than talk about what i see. Oh yeah there is those pesky stats that back up just about everything i have mentioned.
Stats aside there is not a hell of a lot of difference in this bloke from last yr to this yr.
My eyes told me He still ran himself into trouble, he still fumbled a lot his disposal was ordinary at times he still had his share of poor games. Combine that with the stats and taking into account shorter quarters there was very little difference to previous yrs.
What are the expectations for any winger in the comp, thats his position. surely its more than just running hard both ways and having a big body me thinks glass half full in all fairness describes him to a tee.
I was a big Kamdyn fan wanted us to take him in his draft yr, and yes i will always like him for playing in two flags for us.
If honest though i think hes nothing more than average at best who doesnt perform many of the roles expected of a winger and as such am comfortable in calling him a glass half full player a player id hope we are looking to upgrade on.
Sorry kids they can't all be stars and the harsh truth is a few of them are expendable imho
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Its just as well that not every player in the side is a star! If they were all stars we'd blow our salary cap to smithereens, like Collingwood did!
It takes a few good ordinary players to balance out the list, the fact that we have a few glass half fulls means we can have the top end talent like Dusty, Cotch & Grimes! 3 flags in 4 years proves that our glass half fulls are some of the best glass half fulls going around & McIntosh is one of them!
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Would rather glass half full, than 1/3rd full,
KM reminds me me of an exuberant puppy, very happy to have him in the team
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I think the RFC turns 1/2 fulls into 3/4 fulls
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I think the RFC turns 1/2 fulls into 3/4 fulls
Chuck17 speakth the truth methinks.
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I think the RFC turns 1/2 fulls into 3/4 fulls
:clapping
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I'd say our cups runneth over.... :shh
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Vintage claw. The guy plays his position perfectly, resurrects his career, in a covid covid compromised season and you’re basically saying dud delist because he’s not a 5x Brownlow medallist
LOL plays his position perfectly. What position would that be and what are the requirements for the position?
I watch this bloke just as closely as the next bloke and im sorry i think he is ordinary.
So i disagree with everyone else what can i do to back up my statement other than talk about what i see. Oh yeah there is those pesky stats that back up just about everything i have mentioned.
Stats aside there is not a hell of a lot of difference in this bloke from last yr to this yr.
My eyes told me He still ran himself into trouble, he still fumbled a lot his disposal was ordinary at times he still had his share of poor games. Combine that with the stats and taking into account shorter quarters there was very little difference to previous yrs.
What are the expectations for any winger in the comp, thats his position. surely its more than just running hard both ways and having a big body me thinks glass half full in all fairness describes him to a tee.
I was a big Kamdyn fan wanted us to take him in his draft yr, and yes i will always like him for playing in two flags for us.
If honest though i think hes nothing more than average at best who doesnt perform many of the roles expected of a winger and as such am comfortable in calling him a glass half full player a player id hope we are looking to upgrade on.
Sorry kids they can't all be stars and the harsh truth is a few of them are expendable imho
If you judged all of our players on stats alone then there probably wouldn’t be any stars in comparison to other teams. If you haven’t realised by now we are a low possession team so you should stop judging the players by them.
The difference between kmac this year to last year is that last year he got dropped from the team, missed the premiership and finished 15th in the bnf. This year he earned his spot back, played in the premiership and finished 5th in the bnf.
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Vintage claw. The guy plays his position perfectly, resurrects his career, in a covid covid compromised season and you’re basically saying dud delist because he’s not a 5x Brownlow medallist
LOL plays his position perfectly. What position would that be and what are the requirements for the position?
I watch this bloke just as closely as the next bloke and im sorry i think he is ordinary.
So i disagree with everyone else what can i do to back up my statement other than talk about what i see. Oh yeah there is those pesky stats that back up just about everything i have mentioned.
Stats aside there is not a hell of a lot of difference in this bloke from last yr to this yr.
My eyes told me He still ran himself into trouble, he still fumbled a lot his disposal was ordinary at times he still had his share of poor games. Combine that with the stats and taking into account shorter quarters there was very little difference to previous yrs.
What are the expectations for any winger in the comp, thats his position. surely its more than just running hard both ways and having a big body me thinks glass half full in all fairness describes him to a tee.
I was a big Kamdyn fan wanted us to take him in his draft yr, and yes i will always like him for playing in two flags for us.
If honest though i think hes nothing more than average at best who doesnt perform many of the roles expected of a winger and as such am comfortable in calling him a glass half full player a player id hope we are looking to upgrade on.
Sorry kids they can't all be stars and the harsh truth is a few of them are expendable imho
If you judged all of our players on stats alone then there probably wouldn’t be any stars in comparison to other teams. If you haven’t realised by now we are a low possession team so you should stop judging the players by them.
The difference between kmac this year to last year is that last year he got dropped from the team, missed the premiership and finished 15th in the bnf. This year he earned his spot back, played in the premiership and finished 5th in the bnf.
What part of i watch this bloke just as closely as the next bloke didnt you understand. After watching a player there is only stats left to check on what you have observed or is that wrong.Is there some other magical formula out there?
Im sure you dont realise we are not such a low possesion team as you think.
four teams averaged 14 plus possesions per player a game this yr. Collingwood the highest at 14.3
ten teams averaged 13 plus possesions per player a game this yr us being one of them.
four teams averaged 12 plus possesions per player a game this yr with brisbane the lowest at 12.7 a game.
so from 1st to 18th just 1.6 possesions per player a game on average separates all sides. I reckon you read way to much into here say about us being a really low possesion side compared to most other clubs .ID say we are above at least 4 clubs and very similar to another ten.
What changed with McIntosh this yr? not the fumbles or poor kicks or panic attacks they havent gone away NOR HAD THE POOR GAMES.Im surprised he actually finished 5th in the b&f but not shocked, lots of players have finished top 10 over the yrs just thru weight of games played. The reality is only about 15 players played more than 80% of games and it goes without saying they are the ones who are going to finish highest in the B&F.
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Its just as well that not every player in the side is a star! If they were all stars we'd blow our salary cap to smithereens, like Collingwood did!
It takes a few good ordinary players to balance out the list, the fact that we have a few glass half fulls means we can have the top end talent like Dusty, Cotch & Grimes! 3 flags in 4 years proves that our glass half fulls are some of the best glass half fulls going around & McIntosh is one of them!
Well said and 100% accurate IMO.
My man Georgie is another
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He playshis role well and a great team player. Worked hard to earn his spot and was rewarded. Not perfect but personally with a few others won me another premiership which allows a lot of forgiveness in my book
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Unsung hero of the GF ....go watch his efforts in the last five minutes of the second quarter that got as back to within a sniff...was every bit as big as Martin.... :shh
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Here's the vision of the incident that knocked out Kmac :(.
https://www.afl.com.au/video/576721/tiger-utility-knocked-out-in-heavy-collision
Ch 7 said the 12-day break until round 5 might see Kmac only miss the one game.
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Here's the vision of the incident that knocked out Kmac :(.
https://www.afl.com.au/video/576721/tiger-utility-knocked-out-in-heavy-collision
Ch 7 said the 12-day break until round 5 might see Kmac only miss the one game.
Good on him for not squibbing it and hats off to Rampe for staying with him until first aid arrived.
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"Kamdyn is okay. Haven't got the medical. He’s lucky really. It looked horrible to be fair. I’m just glad he’s walking around at this stage".
- Hardwick's comment post-game.
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How the f does a player get a free kick against for being knocked out! SHocking has completely f the game. #getridofshocking
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knocked out or not his disposal was atrocious again. Definately a better option than a few of the soft scaredy cats we have going around but fmd parts of his game remain very poor.
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The news isn’t so good for wingman Kamydn McIntosh, however, who will miss the clash under the AFL’s 12-day enforced concussion break.
McIntosh was accidentally hit in the head by Sydney defender Dane Rampe, whose arm made contact with the Tiger’s head in a ground-ball contest.
The club confirmed on Monday that McIntosh had been diagnosed with concussion out of the incident.
Source: The Age (https://www.theage.com.au/sport/afl/richmond-star-to-have-knee-surgery-20210404-p57gdw.html)
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Hmm continues to be ordinary is lucky others are even worse. Fumbling and poor disposal continue to plague him
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Hmm continues to be ordinary is lucky others are even worse. Fumbling and poor disposal continue to plague him
Agree. Was really poor Saturday night has been pretty good otherwise but like many he had a bad day at the office. I wouldn’t drop him though.
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Still the worst tackler for his size that I've seen...though Balta & Lynch have been giving him a good run for his money this year... :shh
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Wow
https://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/afl/wreck-it-ralph-the-dirty-dozen-trade-targets-clubs-will-be-assessing-after-seven-weeks/news-story/f331267a33a0b73d0bc17fbed5cbc4a9 (https://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/afl/wreck-it-ralph-the-dirty-dozen-trade-targets-clubs-will-be-assessing-after-seven-weeks/news-story/f331267a33a0b73d0bc17fbed5cbc4a9)
KAMDYN MCINTOSH (RICHMOND)
Just turned 27, the hard-running McIntosh has huge wraps inside Richmond for his unrewarded running as a wingman who can easily play as a third defender. Melbourne cottoned on when they paid up for Ed Langdon, and while it’s easy to discount him as a role player, the Tigers have three flags because they get role-players who execute with rare discipline. He has often been mentioned in trade dispatches and is out of contract again, this time as a free agent. While Damien Hardwick says his players all take less because they want to stay, no one would begrudge some of the other players taking off for a deal that sets them up financially.
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"We focus on the whole team, and we let the people behind the scenes take care of those sort of things." - Kamdyn McIntosh on how the Tigers bounced back last night after the events of earlier this week.
Watch: https://twitter.com/FootyonNine/status/1393728573362642948
"He's pretty un-bloody-believable." - Kamdyn McIntosh on what it's like to play alongside Dustin Martin and in such an incredible side.
Watch: https://twitter.com/FootyonNine/status/1393729203321909260
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Dual Richmond premiership player and Pinjarra product Kamdyn McIntosh on the Tigers’ WA connection and his AFL future.
https://thewest.com.au/sport/richmond-tigers/dual-richmond-premiership-player-and-pinjarra-product-kamdyn-mcintosh-on-the-tigers-wa-connection-and-his-afl-future-c-3084104
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Ship him off to Freo as part of the Cerra deal.... :thumbsdown
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Ship him off to Freo as part of the Cerra deal.... :thumbsdown
One of only a few to play well tonight.
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Ship him off to Freo as part of the Cerra deal.... :thumbsdown
Why exactly?
Up to 3qtr tine he was our best
They tag him out in the last qtr and no one else bothers to stand up, especially senior blokes who were MIA for longer than McIntosh
Get you don't rate him and are desperate to get Cerra but at least save the potting whe it truly deserved
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LMAO - of course he did..and no doubt all the WC players he hit on the tit agree... :clapping
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LMAO - of course he did..and no doubt all the WC players he hit on the tit agree... :clapping
Replay time for you. Sure he wasn't sighted in the 4th but there were many others that let us down far more than him.
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I know what I saw....besides - wtf ever watches replays of our losses? stuff that for a game of soldiers... :shh
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I know what I saw....besides - wtf ever watches replays of our losses? stuff that for a game of soldiers... :shh
Those that truely want to understand our wins and our losses watch the replay. It s the best way to evaluate. KMac was our best player up until 3/4 time and was far from our one of the reasons we lost. Ask Jack why he plays from behind and lets Barass mark several times. Ask Jason why he kicks to a Goal square with just Eagles when he could of held it. Ask Nick why he kicked it straight to a Eagles player. I would say you might find these as reasons we lost more than KMac.
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Jack playing from behind was a reall problem tonight
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Jack playing from behind was a reall problem tonight
Yep. Pantsed by Barrass
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I know what I saw....besides - wtf ever watches replays of our losses? stuff that for a game of soldiers... :shh
Those that truely want to understand our wins and our losses watch the replay. It s the best way to evaluate. KMac was our best player up until 3/4 time and was far from our one of the reasons we lost. Ask Jack why he plays from behind and lets Barass mark several times. Ask Jason why he kicks to a Goal square with just Eagles when he could of held it. Ask Nick why he kicked it straight to a Eagles player. I would say you might find these as reasons we lost more than KMac.
Those that get paid to understand and "evaluate" our losses can watch them..they're called "coaches"....never said he was the main reason we lost and not disagreeing about the others... :shh
Jack playing from behind was a reall problem tonight
Yep. Pantsed by Barrass
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Yeah but where was CCJ in the last? Looked like poor coaching to me... :shh
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I know what I saw....besides - wtf ever watches replays of our losses? stuff that for a game of soldiers... :shh
Those that truely want to understand our wins and our losses watch the replay. It s the best way to evaluate. KMac was our best player up until 3/4 time and was far from our one of the reasons we lost. Ask Jack why he plays from behind and lets Barass mark several times. Ask Jason why he kicks to a Goal square with just Eagles when he could of held it. Ask Nick why he kicked it straight to a Eagles player. I would say you might find these as reasons we lost more than KMac.
Those that get paid to understand and "evaluate" our losses can watch them..they're called "coaches"....never said he was the main reason we lost and not disagreeing about the others... :shh
Nope you didn't say he was the reason we lost. You just wanted to ship him off to Fremantle after the loss. Not much difference there but I will give you the benifit of the doubt.
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was at the game tonight and the blokes kicking is deplorable reckon his first 5 kicks went straight to a wce player or missed a target.
He continues to be really fumbly as well. It really is not enough to just be a gut runner
Its not as if this is not something new.
Thought he had a good period in the third quarter that was about it.
Just not sure how some continually get games and if we are looking for ways to improve then we must start taking a hard look at players like McIntosh FFS find players who can run hard but make sure they have better skills it should not be that hard.
Reckon we got beat for several reasons. we just turned the freakin ball over when under little pressure. the skills and decision making of too many is poor. i thought the lack of a big bodied contested ball winner was obvious as well thought we were badly beaten where it counted too often and last we just have too many who dont contribute enough and go missing for huge chunks of games.
Oh and i would still have liked to see us play another KPD.
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AFL Player Award
Winner: Kamdyn McIntosh
Nominated for:
“Kamdyn is very welcoming and warm to all. Even with AFL bubble constraints, Kamdyn attempts to connect all corners of the Club. Off his own bat, he recently reached out to arrange a staff and player social event to help reconnect us all. He is also forever obliging to our members and fans.”
“Always a friendly smiling face around the Club, who chips in and helps out when needed. Kamdyn is very easy to work with and never complains.”
“Kamdyn goes above and beyond to organise player gatherings or bring people together.”
https://www.richmondfc.com.au/news/988870/tigers-announce-2021-bunjil-winners
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RICHMOND FREE AGENT SET FOR DEAL
TIGERS wingman Kamdyn McIntosh is closing in on a new multi-year deal.
The two-time premiership player is an unrestricted free agent and would have been able to automatically move to another club without Richmond being able to match an offer.
However, McIntosh will extend his stay at Tigerland with what is expected to be a two or three-year deal as Richmond whittles down its list of unsigned flag winners.
The 27-year-old has missed the past three weeks with a hamstring injury he suffered in round 18 against Brisbane but remains a central member of Richmond's midfield unit and has played 16 games this year.
The West Australian featured in the Tigers' breakthrough 2017 flag, missed their 2019 triumph but won back his place in Richmond's line-up last year for its Grand Final win over Geelong at the Gabba.
https://www.afl.com.au/news/663027/tigers-free-agent-set-for-new-deal-premiership-dog-hits-trigger
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meh...should be traded... :shh
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He's a free agent so would get zero
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traded, let go, whatever....outside players with poor disposal are obsolete... :shh :shh
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Hope he is signed cheap. Has had a poor year
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Kamdyn is a superb athlete from what I have been told.
You know what you are going to get from him.
For me, happy he has re-signed
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Kamdyn is a superb athlete from what I have been told.
You know what you are going to get from him.
For me, happy he has re-signed
He hasn't re-signed. Article suggesting he is close to re-signing
But agree will be a good move
He has a role, plays it exactly the way the Coach wants him to. That's why he's getting a new deal
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I'll concede that if they scrap the stupid stand rule he might be of some use again...and he can plug a hole down back I guess -was superb in the GF.... :shh
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Rather give kids a go players like him and George and Aarts need to be replaced.
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Your club's underrated performer: Round 23
theRoar.com.au
23 August 2021
Richmond Tigers: Kamdyn McIntosh
For all of the media and the coverage around the dynasty being over, even if it’s reflecting the dynasty or the match on Saturday, it’s rare to see McIntosh get any sort of credit. A wingman who’s more Mitch Robinson-like than Hugh McCluggage, he busts his guts out and is one of those players who bleed footy colours.
Against the Hawks he picked up 16 disposals (ten kicks), five marks, five tackles, five contested possessions, three score involvements and a couple of inside 50s and rebound 50s, and he used the ball well, at 81 per cent.
https://www.theroar.com.au/2021/08/23/your-clubs-underrated-performer-round-23/
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Kamdyn McIntosh was one of Richmond’s most consistent performers throughout the pre-season practice match period.
The dual Tiger premiership player followed up a solid performance against Geelong at GMHBA Stadium (16 disposals, five marks) with a top-class display on his wing in last Saturday’s victory over Hawthorrn at Devonport.
In typical style, McIntosh ran himself ragged over the course of the four quarters, finishing the match with 25 disposals, five marks and seven score involvements.
The 27-year-old veteran of 125 games with Richmond is a pivotal member of the team due to his hard running, which enables him to get to so many contests and drive the ball forward for the Tigers.
https://www.richmondfc.com.au/news/1074735/kamdyn-keeps-on-running
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Kamdyn McIntosh was one of Richmond’s most consistent performers throughout the pre-season practice match period.
The dual Tiger premiership player followed up a solid performance against Geelong at GMHBA Stadium (16 disposals, five marks) with a top-class display on his wing in last Saturday’s victory over Hawthorrn at Devonport.
In typical style, McIntosh ran himself ragged over the course of the four quarters, finishing the match with 25 disposals, five marks and seven score involvements.
The 27-year-old veteran of 125 games with Richmond is a pivotal member of the team due to his hard running, which enables him to get to so many contests and drive the ball forward for the Tigers.
https://www.richmondfc.com.au/news/1074735/kamdyn-keeps-on-running
Go KMac
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Hard-running dual Richmond premiership player Kamdyn McIntosh is shaping as a welcome addition to the Tigers’ line-up after missing the season-opener with a minor calf injury.
“He’s a very under-rated player outside of our four walls. He’s important the way we structure up and the way we go about it,” Hardwick said.
“So, he’ll train today and hopefully take his place in the side because I thought we missed him last week.”
Source: AFL media (https://www.richmondfc.com.au/news/1084892/hardwick-backs-mids)
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Hmm is he escaping scrutiny after the gws game.
Played on the wing looked fumbly had just 10 disposals laid just the one tackle, o clearances, just 4 contested possesions, o marks, just 158 metres gained, 2 intercepts, 3 score involvements. just 1 rebound and 2 i/50.
Regardless of role very underwhelming game.
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Hmm is he escaping scrutiny after the gws game.
Played on the wing looked fumbly had just 10 disposals laid just the one tackle, o clearances, just 4 contested possesions, o marks, just 158 metres gained, 2 intercepts, 3 score involvements. just 1 rebound and 2 i/50.
Regardless of role very underwhelming game.
Yet again you just look at stats, nothing else. I get you are watching on TV and not at the ground. If you were at the ground you'd see (hopefully if you can take your blinkers off) what he is doing, his work rate and heaven forbid his role
Every player has a role, some roles aren't about stats. Yet again KMac played the role the coaches asked him to play. It isn't about possessions. Suggest you have a listen to Dimma's pre-match presser and you may find out how important KMac is to our side.
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Lol im over this constant bull poo of its not his role to get the ball its not his role to deliver the ball well or its not his role to run the lines with ball in hand its nonsense
Stop kidding yourself of course the coaches want him to get the ball use it well run hard both ways he is not there just to run hard and offer sweet stuff all else and im pretty sure the coaches want more as well.
Mate if that is not a bad game then he will never have one talk about blinkers.
Yep its not just about stats but when they back up to the hilt what you see then you use them.
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Hmm is he escaping scrutiny after the gws game.
Played on the wing looked fumbly had just 10 disposals laid just the one tackle, o clearances, just 4 contested possesions, o marks, just 158 metres gained, 2 intercepts, 3 score involvements. just 1 rebound and 2 i/50.
Regardless of role very underwhelming game.
Yet again you just look at stats, nothing else. I get you are watching on TV and not at the ground. If you were at the ground you'd see (hopefully if you can take your blinkers off) what he is doing, his work rate and heaven forbid his role
Every player has a role, some roles aren't about stats. Yet again KMac played the role the coaches asked him to play. It isn't about possessions. Suggest you have a listen to Dimma's pre-match presser and you may find out how important KMac is to our side.
Kapsy is so important to the way we play and he is the total team player.
Plays his role so well
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Missed the Tosh round 1. Glad he's back and is out beautifully
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Lol im over this constant bull poo of its not his role to get the ball its not his role to deliver the ball well or its not his role to run the lines with ball in hand its nonsense
Stop kidding yourself of course the coaches want him to get the ball use it well run hard both ways he is not there just to run hard and offer sweet stuff all else and im pretty sure the coaches want more as well.
Mate if that is not a bad game then he will never have one talk about blinkers.
Yep its not just about stats but when they back up to the hilt what you see then you use them.
What are you on about? He wouldn't be selected if the coaches think he is not offering the team something. Pretty sure the coaches are happy with his output which is all that matters :shh
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I thought he was solid indeed.
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In the actual media conference, Dimma said Kmac is a close contact rather than actually having covid. So provided he doesn't end up with covid he will be back next week.
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Not many to so far want to talk about him but im gunna make sure this absolute spud is spoken about.
I tell ya what the real difference between them and us was a simple we have too many limited role players and their role players are simply more rounded.
Just because your winning games no club should ever forget the credence of upgrade upgrade upgrade. It may not be much but your better off aiming for it which is something we refuse to do.
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He's an average player Claw but was far from our worst tonight and most weeks.
There's at least half a dozen I'd drop before him.
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I'm no massive Kmac fan but he's the least of our issues at the moment.
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Agreed re he is the least of our issues but geez Melbourne showed how effective wingmen can be. Smashed us there.
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I'm no massive Kmac fan but he's the least of our issues at the moment.
How did Langdon go tonight and here we play McIntosh supposedly for his defensive attributes. Add in every time he touches it its a disaster and the absolute horrid delivery into our fwd half and and no he is one of opur biggest issues atm.
We need skill and ,ore skill and then some. Fmd the bloke played on a wing all night and at no stage did he take the game on. That is not what we have wingers for. Any way we don't want butcher McIntosh taking the game on he just gives it straight to the opposition.
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Runs hard but boy does he hack the ball.
Limited role player, of which we have too many.
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Doesn’t get much love on here and while not having eye popping stats, thought he’s been very good past couple of weeks. Will run all day regardless of whether he’s playing well or not but thought he’s been playing strong and clean the past couple weeks. Kicking it much better than earlier in the season.
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Doesn’t get much love on here and while not having eye popping stats, thought he’s been very good past couple of weeks. Will run all day regardless of whether he’s playing well or not but thought he’s been playing strong and clean the past couple weeks. Kicking it much better than earlier in the season.
Spot on, a real soldier who brings it every game on
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Thought he was great last night
It is a pity that the TV doesn't pick up has much running he does both ways
But as always some will look at the stats and say he did very little.
But was super last night
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What did we think of Kmac's game tonight?
21 disposals (14k, 7h, 2c, 18u, 81% eff.)
8 marks
5 tackles
4 inside 50s
3 intercepts
378 metres gained
2 score involvements
84% time on ground
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Thought he was good and having a great year
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Another very good game. Would love to know the Kms he covered on top of those stats
But I'm sure for some it won't be enough
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Like Lambert, great gut runners who are vital to our game plan
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Excellent again today.
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Little bit of damned if you say something damned if you dont. Got much more involved but the mistakes and fumbles drive me crazy.
Its a bit like the Short discussion biggest panic merchant we have and slam it on the boot under pressure player we have yet people dn't see it oh he had 1000000 metres gained. This bloke should not be playing in the middle and no one can tell me different.
Its funny people say he McIntosh doesnt need to get more ball or do a whole heap of other things its all about his running yet when he does get a little bit more ball he is all of a sudden great. As i said i cringe every time he touches it.
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Another very good game yesterday from Kmac. I even gave him votes. As well as his usual workrate up and down the wing, he also either kicked goals himself or set up numerous scoreboard opportunities.
17 disposals (10k, 7h, 3c, 14u, 82.4% eff.)
8 marks
2 tackles
2 clearances (1 centre clearance)
2 inside 50s
2 intercepts
330 metres gained
9 score involvements
1 goal assist
2 goals
84% time on ground.
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Has had a great month. Our wings are looking good right now.
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(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FWvSylraUAABhmd?format=jpg&name=large)
https://twitter.com/CKane80/status/1543559066886500353
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Has had a great month. Our wings are looking good right now.
Agree. Both wingman are playing very well and it’s great to see
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hmm mr fumbles at it again.
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hmm mr fumbles at it again.
Ok I'll bite
82.4% disposal efficiency clearly not good enough for you?
Which of the stats, seeing you base so much of your constant criticism of all players on their stats, aren't good enough for you this week?
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^
It will be that kicking to a 1:1 contest is considered an effective disposal.
Even though when there's no good free option the best thing to do is kick to a 1:1 contest.
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hmm mr fumbles at it again.
Ok I'll bite
82.4% disposal efficiency clearly not good enough for you?
Which of the stats, seeing you base so much of your constant criticism of all players on their stats, aren't good enough for you this week?
Hang on a minute where have i mentioned stats and where have i relied on em. At least unlike you and others i use stats to confirm WHAT I BLOODY SEE. Last time i looked a fumble is not a stat. And you can bugger off with your disposal efficiency bull crap . It is just about the most spurious stat there is. If your trying to tell me he is a good kick than i will go heave.
He is an ordinary player who is limited and lacks polish for the role of a wingman. I don't give a poo if you agree or not thats your blind problem.
Sheesh people can see how poor Castagna is when it comes to lets say ball use and smarts but they cannot see similar things with McIntosh.
Last week i thought he was pretty good this week well na no thanks.
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hmm mr fumbles at it again.
Ok I'll bite
82.4% disposal efficiency clearly not good enough for you?
Which of the stats, seeing you base so much of your constant criticism of all players on their stats, aren't good enough for you this week?
Hang on a minute where have i mentioned stats and where have i relied on em. At least unlike you and others i use stats to confirm WHAT I BLOODY SEE. Last time i looked a fumble is not a stat. And you can bugger off with your disposal efficiency bull crap . It is just about the most spurious stat there is. If your trying to tell me he is a good kick than i will go heave.
He is an ordinary player who is limited and lacks polish for the role of a wingman. I don't give a poo if you agree or not thats your blind problem.
Sheesh people can see how poor Castagna is when it comes to lets say ball use and smarts but they cannot see similar things with McIntosh.
Last week i thought he was pretty good this week well na no thanks.
Only uses the stats when they back up his claims, otherwise stats are useless and it’s all about what he sees….. :help
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Stupid cornwit
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From FanFooty.com.au:
I am not sure the AFL Rules Committee can take all the credit but I love the return of the wing position in its purest form, staying on their side and running goalpost to goalpost to get to contests instead of just kickchasing.
Andrew Gaff was fine, but I much prefer Ed Langdon.
Also, pundits identify Langdon as the template for this throwback role, but I think it was actually Kamdyn McIntosh who was doing this before it was cool.
Every wing wants to be Kamdyn these days, eschewing Dream Team stat padding and fulfilling more exotic and intangible KPIs.
I reckon at some point there might be a backlash against throwback wings, because they more than anyone else in the 18 players on the field contribute to congestion. It's their job to add numbers to a contest.
Will we see experiments to remove them VFL-style to clear away mess?
Perhaps that's looking too far forward. For now we can enjoy whatever it was (mostly the 6-6-6 rule) that led to the reversion of the wing position to what it was meant to be, instead of just another follower.
https://twitter.com/m0nty/status/1547768970622947328
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Kmac was reported for this late spoil:
Slow motion vision here: https://twitter.com/IncrediblyBozza/status/1555888327600906240
Is he in trouble?
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Shouldn't be for that. Was aiming for the ball, idiot just got in the way.
DBJ should be fined for intentional contact to KMacs hand
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Didn’t seen too late, ball beside the head with him turning his head away and not looking at the ball or port player , and contact as a glance
because it’s richmond , 6 weeks
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Last week i thought he was pretty good this week well na no thanks.
You wanted him dropped after last week.
KMac is never going to be a match winner but he was great tonight and was great in the second half last week. Ultimate team man and role player.
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Clumsy spoil more than anything. Byrne-Jones played on. So it should be at worst careless, high and low impact = a fine.
However, after last week when Cotch was sighted for imaginary rough conduct ::), it's anyone's guess with the MRP especially when it comes to a Richmond player :help.
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Don't think it should end up in a suspension, but Brynne-Jones should get an award for The-Most-Mayo-Ever-Added-When-Touched-Somewhere-Near-Goal ... ::)
Award winning flop anyway ... the face plant was inspired ... ::)
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Darcy Byrne-Jones suffered some blurred vision after a late spoil from Kamdyn McIntosh, but Hinkley indicated it was more of an eye issue than concussion.
"It'll be interesting how he pulls up because he'll be one we have to monitor really closely, because he's had a really strong year, a really impressive season for us," Hinkley said.
Source: AFL website. (https://www.afl.com.au/news/814102/-every-game-is-an-elimination-final-for-tigers-star-defender-in-doubt)
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He was playing the ball and just missed. Move on!
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If you watched Cripps jump into the back of a Brisbane player , gets him in the head , without any attempt to spoil the ball and commentators support it as part of the play and then without a report by the umpires you wonder amount the independence when Macca was clearly trying to spoil the ball and gets reported
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Kamdyn McIntosh and Jarman Impey cleared of match-day reports. The Cotchin tackle wasn’t even assessed by the MRO.
Fines for Stringer, Jake Lloyd, Mason Redman and Tim Membrey.
https://twitter.com/MitchellBScott/status/1556206950878441472
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Now just need Some good Vlastuin news.
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The incident involving Richmond’s Kamdyn McIntosh and Port Adelaide’s Darcy Byrne-Jones from the fourth quarter of Saturday's match was assessed, it was the view of the MRO that McIntosh made a genuine attempt to spoil and that his actions were not unreasonable in the circumstances. No further action was taken.
https://www.afl.com.au/news/816560/match-review-four-fined-from-giants-dons-saint-s-striking-charge
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Hard to believe but hat off, fairness at last
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https://twitter.com/Richmond_FC/status/1557500074569084933
:lol
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:lol :lol :lol
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Lmao
Seems a real joker.
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The Tiger owning more than a wing … and Dimma's threat over scooter delays
Kamdyn McIntosh's mind is always pondering the next side hustle, but he'll be firmly focused on his day job on Thursday night
By Josh Gabelich
afl.com.au
1 September 2022
IT ALL started in the hub on the Gold Coast back in 2020. Richmond was based inside the RACV Royal Pines Resort, just around the corner from Metricon Stadium. Often bored and looking for activities to fill the time, they spent countless hours playing board games. That's where Kamydn McIntosh formulated the idea for Build N Buy.
The Tigers would eventually emerge from more than 100 days on the road with a third premiership victory in four seasons to cement dynasty status. And McIntosh would depart Queensland with two medals – a second premiership medallion and the Kevin Bartlett Medal for finishing fifth in the best and fairest – plus a new business idea.
Now almost two years on since that season like no other ended at the Gabba, the Tigers head back to the sunshine state purring ahead of another finals series under Damien Hardwick.
And what started as something to do with his spare time in the hub has turned into a proper business for McIntosh. Build N Buy by KM Games launched last month and the first batch has already sold out. The plan is to keep building it into something bigger in the off-season. But for now, McIntosh must take care of his day job.
The plan is to keep building into something bigger and better in the off-season. Even a couple of real estate agencies are keen on using the board game as a sales tool. But for now, McIntosh is focused on the month ahead, starting with Richmond's elimination final against Brisbane at the Gabba on Thursday night.
"We all had a heap of time in the hub and we were playing Monopoly and I wanted a different card game that had principles about buying property in real life, one that kids could be playing and parents could start conversations about buying property," McIntosh told AFL.com.au this week.
"I started printing them out on bits of paper and cutting them out. The boys were all throwing paper cards around the table for a little bit there. I copped some poo for it; the boys were giving me a heap of feedback about it in the hub, but I took it away, got up Word documents and PowerPoints and printed it all off. Then finally it started working and the game flowed.
"I have all these ideas and I'm a bloke who if I put the time and effort into something, I try to finish it no matter what. I just thought, what's there to lose? I wanted to learn a bit more about business as well, so I've had a lot of conversations with people outside of the footy club that have given me a heap of lessons, which I'm very thankful for."
While Brisbane didn't spend a single round of the home and away season outside the eight and nestled themselves inside the top-four from round three until round 20 before drifting to sixth, Richmond is arguably under the least pressure heading into September.
The Tigers only cemented a finals berth in round 22 but loom as the sleeping giant with the runs on the board – they have 10 wins from 12 finals since 2017 – and the knowledge they have done it all before.
"I think there is (a belief Richmond can make a deep run), definitely. I mean the way we've been playing footy the last month as a group we've started to get that belief as well and a lot of evidence," McIntosh said.
"We do believe genuinely that we are a finals footy side and we've got some youth coming in learning our system but we're always growing as a club and learning. Every season is a different season; this season has been a different season. It's a new side in a way, but belief is what you need to be a good finals team and we've got that."
After winning that flag at the Gabba and only losing twice at the ground since 2004 – once in a qualifying final against Brisbane in 2020 – McIntosh says a knockout final in hostile territory doesn't hold any fears for the club, especially after the Tigers recovered from 42 points down to beat Brisbane a month ago.
"I think that we travel really well. We just love getting around each other as a group. Although it's a finals game, it is a time where we get to travel together and gel together, sit around a dinner table and tell stories and have a laugh, so it's moments like that that I look forward to," he said.
"We're focused on the game and done opposition meetings and line meetings, but I think we just enjoy each other's company and that's what is really highlighted on trips like this. It is exciting to go interstate for our first finals game."
In a team stacked full of seasoned stars – Jack Riewoldt, Trent Cotchin, Dustin Martin and Tom Lynch – and emerging stars – Shai Bolton, Liam Baker and Daniel Rioli – McIntosh plays his role week in, week out, and has done across 145 games at the highest level.
But when it comes to the Pinjarra product, his influence can't be measured in metres gained or kicking efficiency. 'McIntosh Moments' are the stuff of legend inside the Richmond Football Club, once documented in hilarious detail via former star Shaun Grigg in his must-see 'Chronicles of Kamdyn' segment on the Talking Tigers podcast.
There is never a dull moment when McIntosh is involved; just ask Hardwick, who drew attention to the most recent story involving the procurement of electric scooters. The 28-year-old ordered 18 of them for players and staff directly from an overseas manufacturer early in the year, before the shipment was delayed. Not once, but twice.
McIntosh almost collected the wrong scooters from the warehouse in Clayton when they finally arrived, following weeks of pointed feedback from the senior coach and buyers who were fed up waiting. Luckily, Jayden Short met him at the warehouse with his ute to help transport them back to the club and realised the right ones were hidden up the back.
"The back story is, I go down the Peninsula a bit between a couple of projects I've got down there. I stay down there and take some of the boys or my family. I bought four scooters for myself and the running gag is why the hell do I need four scooters when I only need one? The boys were all giving me poo about them, but they were also asking me if I had any more," he said.
"Then I put an order in and said: whoever wants one, let me know. I ended up ordering 18 for the boys. Dimma wanted two. Grimesy wanted one, Noah Cumberland wanted two. I went straight to the manufacturer overseas and that's how I got my first lot. I ordered 18 scooters and it was going to take 40 to 50 days delivery. I had to pay the whole nine grand up front and it was slow to get the money back.
"They are all revving me up the whole time with when will my scooter get here? The deadline comes after 50 days and they weren't happy. It was a month delayed because it was held up in Singapore in the dock. Another month went by and it was delayed again because it was held up here in customs. So it is a two-month delay and it was nothing to do with me.
"I stitched Dimma up a ripper because he was the one hassling me the most. He got me up out the front and said: You've got 10 days for my scooter to be here or you're going to be dropped."
McIntosh isn't the only Tiger with entrepreneurial spirit inside Punt Road. Dylan Grimes owns Mount Macedon Winery in country Victoria and has built the business into a winner. Trent Cotchin runs Posisocks with his wife Brooke. Nick Vlastuin is training to become a helicopter pilot, while Jason Castagna is looking to become a tattoo artist.
None of them generate the hysterical stories that McIntosh does. Expect many more to come. But first, it is back to Queensland to start another September campaign.
https://www.afl.com.au/news/832570/the-tiger-owning-more-than-a-wing-and-dimma-s-threat-over-scooter-delays
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33. Kamdyn McIntosh
Began on the wing next to Jarrod Berry. Snapped a terrific third-quarter goal and finished with 14 disposals.
Foxsports rating: 5
https://www.foxsports.com.au/afl/teams/richmond-tigers/afl-finals-2022-richmond-tigers-vs-brisbane-lions-second-elimination-final-highlights-stats-best-and-worst-players/news-story/7fc45960b9d79ca09461c1ff3de0ff76
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It's Kmac's 150th this week :clapping.
2015 23
2016 6
2017 24 .... premiership
2018 21
2019 16
2020 18 .... premiership
2021 17
2022 21
2023 4*
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Total 150*
https://afltables.com/afl/stats/players/K/Kamdyn_McIntosh.html
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'We want to show everyone that we're a good side' - McIntosh
Kamdyn McIntosh speaks with media ahead of his 150th AFL game this weekend.
WATCH: https://www.richmondfc.com.au/video/1299557/-we-want-to-show-everyone-that-we-re-a-good-side-mcintosh
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Congratulations, a true clubman of the club
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An unsung hero for me. Love him
Congratulations, a true clubman of the club
So true. Similar to Grigg I reckon.
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No animosity from me this week. Hope he has a blinder in #150.
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Congratulations, a true clubman of the club
Yep
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A much-loved player and person of our Club 💛
Kamdyn McIntosh reflects on reaching his 150-game milestone on Saturday...
Watch: https://twitter.com/Richmond_FC/status/1643875862830530560
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Laugh-a-minute Tiger reaches 150 games, much to his surprise
By Michael Gleeson
The Age
April 8, 2023
Kamdyn McIntosh appreciates the absurdity of it. If he played for another club, and not the most successful recent one, he probably would have been cut and never got to 150 games. Thus, he also knows he wouldn’t have two flags if he played for anyone else.
He’s so Richmond. He’s not the perfect player, but he is the ideal Richmond player.
In his words, it’s not only un-bloody-believable (one of his favourite terms) it’s a pee-er (his other favourite).
“Ha it is, it’s un-bloody-believable. Yeah, it’s a pee-er, I’d say to the boys. They are the two words I go with a fair bit,” McIntosh laughed.
Actually, it’s redundant to say McIntosh laughed, it’s all he does. His default position is to laugh, often at himself, as often at his teammates.
He is a funny 150-game player. He’s spent his years between winning flags in 2017 and 2020 in and out of the team and back in again. Throughout just kept turning up, smiling, laughing and doing what was asked of him.
It’s the tale of his career. He’s found a place on the wing, as the hard-running, rangy player doing jobs, running to the places the team needs him to be, keeping his game simple and trying to connect his teammates.
A player of limitations, he plays within those limitations. At another club he might not have survived, but at Richmond he fits the system and the role perfectly.
“I think about that as well. I have taken on a role on that wing that is so structured and team-orientated as opposed to individual. That’s my role in the side and I love it. I wouldn’t have it any other way, I love being the connector within the playing group,” McIntosh said.
“Early days in my career I got dropped a few times so, no, I’d never thought I’d get to 150 games, if I’m honest. I was wondering, ‘Am I going to get delisted?’ But then the 2017 grand final, 2018, then got dropped again in 2019 and I still had question marks whether I was going to get dropped again. But I dunno, I kept showing up and kept playing and all of a sudden it’s 150 games and it’s like, ‘Geez, that went quick’, but it was a pretty tough route, too.”
On Thursday night 13 members of his family from rural West Australia arrived. The airfares stung, but COVID had blown out travel plans since 2019, so there was a buzz about the place with the tribe arriving. Kamdyn had set up blow-up mattresses and sleeping bags for them all over the house to fit them all in.
They’d come a fair way. His mum drives trucks on the mines in the Pilbara in northern WA and his dad owns the McDonald’s franchise in Karratha but is set to move south to Busselton.
“They were getting in at midnight (Thursday night) and coming over. I said ‘I’ll be asleep, but I’ll get up when you get here.’ The house is going to be full, blow up mattresses, sleeping bags. Reminds me as a kid going to the grandparents down on the farm and you’d bunk up for school holidays and that.”
A connector on the field, he connects the group off it.
When they were in the hub McIntosh was bored. For a fidgety bloke who likes to be busy, being idle was difficult. So he invented a card game. It’s doing well.
“Oleg (Markov), Grimesy, Jase Castagna and I had a heap of time on our hands and I ended up creating this card game based around real estate called ‘Build and Buy’. We are in talks now with Ray White Australia and Hodges real estate and others. It’s actually a pretty free-flowing game,” he said.
“I came up with the idea and the boys gave me a heap of feedback taking the pee. I have a manufacturer on board, graphic designer to do the images. It’s a full card game now up and running.”
The building part of it is because he is close to finishing his building licence and recently launched his company K Trades. Suffice to say its made him popular with his teammates.
“I reckon I have been to 15 of the blokes’ houses to help them out some way or another. The other week I was pouring a concrete slab at Kane Lambert’s. I did the whole landscaping at Jayden Short’s house; Jack Graham, I had to help him with a barbecue pergola area. Grimesy [Dylan Grimes] has had me out at Mount Macedon at his winery doing some gate work.
“Sam Frost at Hawthorn got stitched up by another tradesman and I helped him out, finishing a pergola and barbecue area. We are doing a steam room, sauna, and plunge pool at Mount Martha for a couple of jockeys. It’s good.”
Then again, he has leant on his teammates to help him too. A few years ago he made a concrete and timber dining table. Mainly because Short said he couldn’t. The problem was it was so bloody heavy he couldn’t move it out of his garage where he built it. So he got his teammates over to lift it for him on the promise of a meal.
“I cooked them the good old spaghetti bolognaise and I was cooking that and I thought I had time to change the water over in my fish tank while I was cooking dinner so I was doing that when the boys rocked up. But then they wanted to move the table straight away so we started doing that and I forgot I had the garden hose filling the fish tank.
“It was in the living room, so the fish tank starts over flowing, it was there for about 10 minutes and it’s flooded the whole dining area and kitchen area and then my spaghetti bolognaise was burnt. It was a complete schemozzle.”
And he just laughs at the memory. He is laughing at a lot of memories – two premierships and now 150 games.
https://www.theage.com.au/sport/afl/laugh-a-minute-tiger-reaches-150-games-much-to-his-surprise-20230406-p5cyrn.html
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Roar Feature: Kamdyn McIntosh
Kamdyn McIntosh spoke to award-winning sports writer Konrad Marshall earlier this week in the build-up to his 150th senior match for Richmond.
Full article: https://www.richmondfc.com.au/news/1300658/roar-feature-kamdyn-mcintosh
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Roar Feature: Kamdyn McIntosh
Kamdyn McIntosh spoke to award-winning sports writer Konrad Marshall earlier this week in the build-up to his 150th senior match for Richmond.
Full article: https://www.richmondfc.com.au/news/1300658/roar-feature-kamdyn-mcintosh
Great read, as Konrad's writings usually are.
Certainly explains what his role is and how it's not always about the number of disposals
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Exceptional article
What a character!
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Underwhelming 150th game
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Underwhelming 150th game
At his age and with his disposal by foot it might be time to move him on and free up a spot on the wing for a kid who can kick the football. I hate to say it because I like him and he's a competitive beast, but he's never been a great kick and we can't excuse that for a wingman in the current game.
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Yeh Judson lacks the size and probably the tank but I think he would do alright on a wing
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Richmond veteran Kamdyn McIntosh, uncertain of contract status beyond this season, hopes to re-sign
Daniel Cherny
HeraldSun
May 13, 2023
Free agent Kamdyn McIntosh has declared he wants to be a “Tiger for life” but is unclear on where his contract talks with Richmond sit.
However, buoyed by his side’s upset 24-point win over reigning premiers Geelong at the MCG on Friday night, McIntosh said he believed the Tigers were still capable of beating any side and could yet mount an unlikely finals run despite their poor start to the season.
Admittedly helped by a long list of outs for the Cats, Richmond – themselves still undermanned – led at every change to notch their third win for the season with a performance that losing coach Chris Scott said was much more like the Tigers of their modern premiership trilogy.
With their surge game humming and pressure on the opposition ball carrier closer to their best than previous weeks, Richmond issued a message to the doubters that there was still life left in the Tigers in 2023 even after five straight losses between rounds three and seven.
“We feel like our system’s been good, just a few skill executions in offence that we need to clean up but I feel like us boys believe in ourselves well enough that we are a good side and we’ve just got to stay positive,” McIntosh said post-match.
“So the vibe around the footy club the last six weeks or so has been really good. And you’ve just got to keep showing up and bring the positive energy.
“I think that it just shows that you know, whether the media or the commentary from the outside people think they write us off, the belief within the playing group is much stronger than that. We know our best footy is able to beat anybody.
“And today was a perfect example. People thought we weren‘t gonna be able to get out there and get the win. But we knew within ourselves that if we play our football and our way then you know, we can beat anybody. So I think we are and the belief is there that we can, what I said at the start of the year, we are a good enough side to play finals footy. “
McIntosh said the Tigers had embraced the idea that they had been written off in some quarters.
“I guess there‘s that sort of underdog mentality, you know, that obviously goes around a little bit. It drives you, it motivates you,” he said.
“Dimma (coach Damien Hardwick) has just been unbelievable through that five week period there where we lost just to keep the belief within the playing group. He was showing us edits of the good poo that we’re doing out there and how good of a side we actually are.”
Without individualising, McIntosh said that Richmond’s players had rallied around under-fire players.
“There‘s definitely some players that are going through whatever they’re going through. But the best thing about our team and our group is that we help each other through those moments. And we can understand when each other’s going through those moments to get them out of it. And we’re very understanding of it. So I think the best part of our side is that we do go through it, but we get out of it quickly by helping each other out of it.”
McIntosh, 29, is an unrestricted free agent after a decade at Punt Road. The West Australian wingman, a dual premiership player, said he wanted to stay at the club but said he was in the dark on his future.
“I don‘t really know to be honest. I just let my manager Colin (Young) take care of that. One of my things that I do is I don’t even want to talk to my manager about anything until the final day where he says what’s going on,” McIntosh said.
“Obviously, I want to be a one-club man and a Tiger for life. Two premierships here at the club, my heart’s pretty close to the club. I love the boys and this is my family. So it’d be pretty nice to stay, but we’ll see.”
McIntosh said he had taken a leadership role within the club, mentoring the likes of Sam Banks, Judson Clarke and Jack Ross. He added that he would also help guide a first-year players camp in the coming weeks on the Mornington Peninsula.
https://www.codesports.com.au/afl/richmond/richmond-veteran-kamdyn-mcintosh-uncertain-of-contract-status-beyond-this-season-hopes-to-resign/news-story/24414e1f602528eba126cf0226cff2d8
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I think we’re past the point where the role he plays and his effort outweigh his really poor disposal. Could hide it in the past when we were a very good side but was a turnover merchant yesterday. He’ll probably get an extension because he’s such a well liked member of the club but would personally take a 3rd rounder for him.
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I think we’re past the point where the role he plays and his effort outweigh his really poor disposal. Could hide it in the past when we were a very good side but was a turnover merchant yesterday. He’ll probably get an extension because he’s such a well liked member of the club but would personally take a 3rd rounder for him.
Which is why you don’t have a career in list management
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You think we’d get more than a 3rd rounder for a player of kmacs skillset who is out of contract at years end and who will be 30 before the start of next season?
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Lol, he won’t be traded , club doesn’t want him to leave and he doesn’t want to leave
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Yeah I figure as much.
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Did TK just shoot bambi or something?
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As per the AFL web-site
TIGERS FREE AGENT NEARS TRIGGER
RICHMOND free agent Kamdyn McIntosh is heading towards hitting a contract trigger to tie him to Punt Road for another season.
The consistent wingman signed a two-year deal in 2021 that included a clause for a third year.
McIntosh played 21 games last year for the Tigers and has played every match so far in 2023, averaging 15 disposals.
The 29-year-old played in the Tigers' 2017 and 2020 premiership teams and has played 155 games for the club since being a second-round pick at the 2012 draft.
The West Australian is one of seven remaining unrestricted free agents at Richmond, alongside Nathan Broad, Trent Cotchin, Jack Riewoldt, Ben Miller, Bigoa Nyuon and Robbie Tarrant. – Callum Twomey
https://www.afl.com.au/news/927718/suns-pick-a-trade-target-tiger-nears-trigger-tall-pie-eyes-talks
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Like him but for most of his ability bar kicking. If he opted to move with FA I wouldn't hold it against him but I'm not convinced he'd be that sought after.
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Ouch!
Kamdyn's fourth quarter.
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Fwkjun7aIAEXy_H?format=jpg&name=large)
https://twitter.com/TigerWooda/status/1659897224481087488
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Terrible all game.
Prestia was also terrible as was Nank, Grimes and Reiwoldt
Baker probably his worst game of the season.
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I think we’re past the point where the role he plays and his effort outweigh his really poor disposal. Could hide it in the past when we were a very good side but was a turnover merchant yesterday. He’ll probably get an extension because he’s such a well liked member of the club but would personally take a 3rd rounder for him.
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Time to say goodbye no room for sentiment need a big clean out.
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We need a wingman to take over from him definitely. He has been a valuable servant of the club. Who’s our best field kick at the moment? Get their tank up and plonk them there
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Wasn't Banks supposed to be the wingman.
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I think we’re past the point where the role he plays and his effort outweigh his really poor disposal. Could hide it in the past when we were a very good side but was a turnover merchant yesterday. He’ll probably get an extension because he’s such a well liked member of the club but would personally take a 3rd rounder for him.
Right, so the problem is his role then. Change his role & solve the problem ...
So lets throw Kmac into the middle as a gut running big bodied battering ram to smack into the Cripps' of this world & we can ignore his woeful hacks out of a pack like we do with inside mids. HRS or Banks goes to the wing & other problems get fixed too.
All of Cotchin, Martin & Prestia are out of luck then. So be it ...
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Loved Kamdyns chip pass today, watching him his distance covered is amazing
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Credit where it’s due, thought he was very good today. Was hitting targets all day.
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78% DE from 19 touches, 17 kicks.
Very nice indeed for a change.
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Was great today.
His 2 way running is elite
And until they find someone who do it as well as he does, he won't be going anywhere
I know that will disappoint many but it is the way it is
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One of his best games in a while. Was very good today.
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Yep gunna agree with people.
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Yep gunna agree with people.
Hold on let me find a wall to hold me up lol
Good on you
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In claw we trust.
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Premiership Tiger set to stay on
Jay Clark, Jon Ralph and Glenn McFarlane
HeraldSun
7 June 2023
Richmond free agent Kamdyn McIntosh is negotiating a new deal to stay at the Tigers despite being about to hit a games-based trigger for a deal for 2024.
The dual premiership free agent, 29, has been so durable and consistent Richmond is open to talks on a deal past next year.
McIntosh is one of the many Richmond players who are thrilled with the immediate impact of interim coach Andrew McQualter.
https://www.codesports.com.au/afl/moneyball-all-the-latest-afl-trade-draft-and-contract-news/news-story/69c062f386b15ac4cef317a51ec85f20
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Every AFL club’s player who must lift
David Zita
Fox Sports
December 13th, 2023 7:14 pm
For one reason or another, some of the game’s brightest talents didn’t have the season they would’ve liked.
Be it positional switches, injury or just plain old bad form, there’s certainly a lot of upside when it comes to 2024.
Foxfooty.com.au looks at a player from each club who’ll be desperate for a better season come next year.
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Kamdyn McIntosh was another, dropping 47 per cent [re: player rating in 2023 compared to 2022].
https://www.foxsports.com.au/afl/afl-2023-player-ratings-players-who-need-to-improve-big-preseason-form-rankings-injuries-season-preview-latest/news-story/1679e49db994d6dc2905a2111c833fbf
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I’ll say it until I’m blue in the face - you cannot play both wingers in defensive roles. The premiers of this year didn’t have either winger in defensive roles - and it ended up winning them the GF
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When the ball is on the other side of the ground you can play a defensive roll but on your side you should be attacking.
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What exactly is the point of this bloke now? :huh
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Did a smother today
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His the tool man
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He like a handful of other players still remaining from our dynasty years need to be phased out and fast. Players like kmac were very useful as role players when we had the game plan and star players to carry us but now I just don’t see any point in playing them ahead of the younger cubs. They could be even worse, but we’ll never know if they’re stuck in the reserves.
Bring in brown, sonsie (when suspension is finished), clarke, Bauer, Cumberland, mcauliffe, etc.
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Another masterclass of nothingness from good old Sir Runsalot -never seen a bloke his size lose so many contests and be such and ineffectual tackler.....sick of seeing his flailing inflatable car yard man arms...so the question remains:
What exactly is the point of this bloke now? :huh
:huh :huh
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...and still I wonder:
What exactly is the point of this bloke now? :huh
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They probably think it’s a bit of stretch to replace 2 long standing wingmen in the side, but surely surely 1 of them can be dropped.
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Maybe try him somewhere/anywhere else.
Our forward line looked so dismal today I think we really need to play a medium forward who will actually make a contest. Not saying KMac is that guy but I wouldn't get upset if ooze tried it.
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Tom Brown on one wing and Sam Banks on the other. Play them.
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Trade to a WA side (late 2nd/early 3rd rounder)
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Trade to a WA side (late 2nd/early 3rd rounder)
He’s 30yo
Would you give up a late 2nd/early 3rd if you were the WA side ?
(Insert Darryl Kerrigan quote)
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Tom Brown on one wing and Sam Banks on the other. Play them.
I don't think Banks has the tank to play 70%+ game time on the wing
I'd keep Brown in the backline, perfect replacement for Grimes
I'd consider putting Dan Rioli on the wing. Has the tank, the skill disposal wise for that role
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Trade to a WA side (late 2nd/early 3rd rounder)
He’s 30yo
Would you give up a late 2nd/early 3rd if you were the WA side ?
(Insert Darryl Kerrigan quote)
He's an UFA isn't he?
We'd probably get a token 3rd to bundle up for a higher pick swap to an academy club.
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Trade to a WA side (late 2nd/early 3rd rounder)
He’s 30yo
Would you give up a late 2nd/early 3rd if you were the WA side ?
(Insert Darryl Kerrigan quote)
He's an UFA isn't he?
We'd probably get a token 3rd to bundle up for a higher pick swap to an academy club.
Depending on what his contract is and how it fits within a teams salary cap, you may get nothing
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Our reward will be him no longer being on the list..... :shh
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Well I am a big fan of KMac
Rightly or wrongly
Amazing athlete
3 x Premiership Player
I would imagine none of any of the posters here could beat him in a one on one
Put him in the forward line, mix the wings up?
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Well I am a big fan of KMac
Rightly or wrongly
Amazing athlete
3 x Premiership Player
I would imagine none of any of the posters here could beat him in a one on one
Put him in the forward line, mix the wings up?
2 x Premiership player
He didn't play in the 2019 GF
And BTW I've always been a fan too. Has a role that the coaches want him to play and plays it week after week. His problem now as I see it is not the disposal but the drop in pace
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His role has resulted in our decline.
He is an absolute liability and it's stifling our growth. Nice guy thanks for the memories now go to the VFL and stop being selfish languishing in the seniors.
Yze show some balls ffs and dump him with Pickett to follow iafter his ton.
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Well I am a big fan of KMac
Rightly or wrongly
Amazing athlete
3 x Premiership Player
I would imagine none of any of the posters here could beat him in a one on one
Put him in the forward line, mix the wings up?
Why is chuck em in the forward line always the fall back line. No wonder our fwd half is so poor.
How about we throw Coulthard or Clark or Bauer and others into the fwd half and give em a decent run at it.
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Well I am a big fan of KMac
Rightly or wrongly
Amazing athlete
3 x Premiership Player
I would imagine none of any of the posters here could beat him in a one on one
Put him in the forward line, mix the wings up?
Why is chuck em in the forward line always the fall back line. No wonder our fwd half is so poor.
How about we throw Coulthard or Clark or Bauer and others into the fwd half and give em a decent run at it.
Come on mate lol.
We are playing Kosi and Lefau, who are good for about 2 goals/week between them.
Bauer is injured. Coulthard and Clarke are smalls.
KMac is at least 192cm and despite his ordinary field kicking has generally been quite a good set shot for goal.
I'd rather try him forward than the likes of Pickett or any other junior player who doesn't get to play their natural role on debut etc.
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Well I am a big fan of KMac
Rightly or wrongly
Amazing athlete
3 x Premiership Player
I would imagine none of any of the posters here could beat him in a one on one
Put him in the forward line, mix the wings up?
Why is chuck em in the forward line always the fall back line. No wonder our fwd half is so poor.
How about we throw Coulthard or Clark or Bauer and others into the fwd half and give em a decent run at it.
Come on mate lol.
We are playing Kosi and Lefau, who are good for about 2 goals/week between them.
Bauer is injured. Coulthard and Clarke are smalls.
KMac is at least 192cm and despite his ordinary field kicking has generally been quite a good set shot for goal.
I'd rather try him forward than the likes of Pickett or any other junior player who doesn't get to play their natural role on debut etc.
Hes an ordinary player in his best position on a wing what the hell is he going to offer as a fwd. He does not play tall he takes few marks and even fewer contested marks he is not even a goal kicking wingman he kicks few goals.
Atm we are stuck with Lefau and Kosi at least they are genuine kp size and are forwards. Add for arguments sake Ryan or Naismith we don't need another tall who can't mark the ball with ordinary skills. those mentioned are better options as unbelievable as that sounds.
We will play with at least two tall forwards and three when possible that does not include McIntosh even with the injuries we have
Atm it looks like we need to find upgrades on both Kosi and Lefau, playing another ordinary 30yr old tall midfielder forward won't help the situation. It will deprive a genuine forward no matter how big an opportunity ffs give Cumberland a good block of games.
FMD who would want to be a small medium forward at Richmond you would never get picked, why because we keep on picking mids backs and wingers instead pickett, and if we played McIntosh.
What attribute does McIntosh display that remotely suggests he is a forward. ? Not one.
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Well I am a big fan of KMac
Rightly or wrongly
Amazing athlete
3 x Premiership Player
I would imagine none of any of the posters here could beat him in a one on one
Put him in the forward line, mix the wings up?
Why is chuck em in the forward line always the fall back line. No wonder our fwd half is so poor.
How about we throw Coulthard or Clark or Bauer and others into the fwd half and give em a decent run at it.
Come on mate lol.
We are playing Kosi and Lefau, who are good for about 2 goals/week between them.
Bauer is injured. Coulthard and Clarke are smalls.
KMac is at least 192cm and despite his ordinary field kicking has generally been quite a good set shot for goal.
I'd rather try him forward than the likes of Pickett or any other junior player who doesn't get to play their natural role on debut etc.
Hes an ordinary player in his best position on a wing what the hell is he going to offer as a fwd. He does not play tall he takes few marks and even fewer contested marks he is not even a goal kicking wingman he kicks few goals.
Atm we are stuck with Lefau and Kosi at least they are genuine kp size and are forwards. Add for arguments sake Ryan or Naismith we don't need another tall who can't mark the ball with ordinary skills. those mentioned are better options as unbelievable as that sounds.
We will play with at least two tall forwards and three when possible that does not include McIntosh even with the injuries we have
Atm it looks like we need to find upgrades on both Kosi and Lefau, playing another ordinary 30yr old tall midfielder forward won't help the situation. It will deprive a genuine forward no matter how big an opportunity ffs give Cumberland a good block of games.
FMD who would want to be a small medium forward at Richmond you would never get picked, why because we keep on picking mids backs and wingers instead pickett, and if we played McIntosh.
What attribute does McIntosh display that remotely suggests he is a forward. ? Not one.
Just saying that given our current situation in the forward line I would rather play KMac there than Coulthard, who has shown stuff all this year reportedly, or even Clarke who is apprently looking decent.
With Bolton, MRJ, Campbell, Mansell snooping around I think that's short enough.
If anyone is making way for those two it's Mansell but he's got some effort runs on the board and has played his good game for this half of the year.
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He is not a forward. He is not well known for his marking and it would be unfair on him to expect him to be a marking target. He has lost pace and kicking is not his strength. There are other forwards who can apply pressure. Would prefer they bring in Coulthard for his speed and his x factor qualities.
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Well I am a big fan of KMac
Rightly or wrongly
Amazing athlete
3 x Premiership Player
I would imagine none of any of the posters here could beat him in a one on one
Put him in the forward line, mix the wings up?
Great so that justifies why he’s in the team over any of us. What about the rest of the players on our list and any players we could draft or trade in?
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I would imagine none of any of the posters here could beat him in a one on one
lmao what are you like 10 years old? Time to take off the badges and put away the duffle coat methinks.... :shh
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Looked like he was going to have a rare good one of pre-'21 vintage early on but wasn't long before we saw the return of the same old display from Sir Runsalot - Lord Flapper of Arms.... :shh
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Looked like he was going to have a rare good one of pre-'21 vintage early on but wasn't long before we saw the return of the same old display from Sir Runsalot - Lord Flapper of Arms.... :shh
🍾 🎭 :lol :rollin
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For a bloke who has rightly copped a lot of criticism lately I thought KMac had a good game.
His gut running, effort and putting his body on the line were excellent leadership.
Definitely holds his spot.
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Is true. His running has never been a question. Just don’t think he has a future on our team but with that said, what wingers do we have up and coming to replace him?
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Lmao are you serious..?..another one getting off lightly here....was his useless arm flapping momentum killing worst...the amount of times we get a turnover in a good position where he's the intercepting mark but he just stands there for 20 seconds while the oppo floods back.... :banghead
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Lmao are you serious..?..another one getting off lightly here....was his useless arm flapping momentum killing worst...the amount of times we get a turnover in a good position where he's the intercepting mark but he just stands there for 20 seconds while the oppo floods back.... :banghead
You really are an idiot
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Well I am a big fan of KMac
Rightly or wrongly
Amazing athlete
3 x Premiership Player
I would imagine none of any of the posters here could beat him in a one on one
Put him in the forward line, mix the wings up?
Why is chuck em in the forward line always the fall back line. No wonder our fwd half is so poor.
How about we throw Coulthard or Clark or Bauer and others into the fwd half and give em a decent run at it.
Come on mate lol.
We are playing Kosi and Lefau, who are good for about 2 goals/week between them.
Bauer is injured. Coulthard and Clarke are smalls.
KMac is at least 192cm and despite his ordinary field kicking has generally been quite a good set shot for goal.
I'd rather try him forward than the likes of Pickett or any other junior player who doesn't get to play their natural role on debut etc.
Point made
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This guy might be steve morris' problem next week I think, had a down day
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This guy might be steve morris' problem next week I think, had a down day
Down year you mean
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Spent the day getting where the ball ain't then that free kick on 3qt...
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Pound for pound the most ineffective contested player I've ever seen.... :shh
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Sticking a tackle would help his cause
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Sticking a tackle would help his cause
He's always been a shytehouse tackler.... :shh
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Spent the day getting where the ball ain't then that free kick on 3qt...
Voted softest free kick of the year
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Had that hood patch after getting dropped back to rubbish again. No brainer goes end of year.
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This guy might be steve morris' problem next week I think, had a down day
Down year you mean
Down most years you mean.
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VETERAN TIGER NEARING NEW DEAL
Unsigned Richmond winger Kamdyn McIntosh is said to be closing on a contract extension.
The 30-year-old, who played in the Tigers’ 2017 and 2020 flag triumphs, is expected to remain in Richmond colours into 2025, per Nine’s Tom Morris.
McIntosh, who has played 190 games, has appeared in at least 21 senior matches in each of the past three seasons.
Morris reports Richmond and the Western Australian are working through ‘finer contractual details’ before cementing a new deal.
https://www.foxsports.com.au/afl/afl-trade-news-rumours-2024-clubs-interested-in-jack-carroll-after-being-delisted-by-carlton-jai-culley-hopeful-of-finding-second-club-delisted-by-west-coast-fremantle-gws-latest-news/news-story/92e2b5a666c3abcddc15060bc6ae4a68
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Richmond great Matthew Richardson has totally endorsed the Tigers’ decision to re-sign veteran Kamdyn McIntosh for a further year.
“It’s good news that McIntosh will be continuing at Richmond next season,” Richardson said.”
“Given the retirements and exodus of so many experienced players throughout the past few years, it leaves us now with only Nick Vlastuin, Dion Prestia and Tom Lynch as 200-game players on the playing list.
“McIntosh, currently on 190 games, can join them this year, and what a great achievement that would be for the ultimate team man.
“The dual premiership Tiger’s experience, but also, most importantly, his training standards and ability to bring teammates together during the week, will be vital with a young playing group moving forward.
“He is a culture-setter around the Club, which is a vital factor, and he’s an extremely popular character as well with his sense of fun and adventure.
“On game day, you know he will play whatever role is asked of him by senior coach Adam Yze, and always give it 100 percent.
“The new batch of young players coming to Tigerland soon, via the national draft, will undoubtedly benefit by having Kamdyn McIntosh alongside them as they start their AFL journeys.”
https://www.richmondfc.com.au/news/1685892/mcintosh-remains-a-valuable-tiger
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Richo gets it.
Many others have said the same things.
Wonder if the haters who thinks they know better will take note.
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They will🫣
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Elite Arm Waver Sir Runs-A-Lot trains well - just like Hamspud did.... :shh
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Elite Arm Waver Sir Runs-A-Lot trains well - just like Hamspud did.... :shh
Right on cue :D
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Elite Arm Waver Sir Runs-A-Lot trains well - just like Hamspud did.... :shh
Right on cue :D
Summoned by popular demand.... :shh :shh
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Think we could do worse than Kamdyn. Writing is on wall he's not part of our next best 22. But you can't play a 22 draftees, id prefer him not to play every week but we will need these types until we have a solid core of new talent driving the bus.
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..We need some experience around the place
We have alot of kids coming in and we need senior players to support them and teach them about being an AFL player
And sometimes it's not just about how many games someone may or not play. Sometimes it's about needing to keep good, popular team first players, heart and soul players who form a significant part of a CLub's culture. I see Kam as that type of player.
We had 3 senior leaders (3 players from the leadership group) walk out on the Club during the FA and trade period. Kam chose not to was prepared to wait to see if he got offered a contract, he wants to be a one club player. He can teach the kids. Can't see how that's a bad thing TBBH
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..We need some experience around the place
We have alot of kids coming in and we need senior players to support them and teach them about being an AFL player
And sometimes it's not just about how many games someone may or not play. Sometimes it's about needing to keep good, popular team first players, heart and soul players who form a significant part of a CLub's culture. I see Kam as that type of player.
We had 3 senior leaders (3 players from the leadership group) walk out on the Club during the FA and trade period. Kam chose not to was prepared to wait to see if he got offered a contract, he wants to be a one club player. He can teach the kids. Can't see how that's a bad thing TBBH
Exactly
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..We need some experience around the place
We have alot of kids coming in and we need senior players to support them and teach them about being an AFL player
And sometimes it's not just about how many games someone may or not play. Sometimes it's about needing to keep good, popular team first players, heart and soul players who form a significant part of a CLub's culture. I see Kam as that type of player.
We had 3 senior leaders (3 players from the leadership group) walk out on the Club during the FA and trade period. Kam chose not to was prepared to wait to see if he got offered a contract, he wants to be a one club player. He can teach the kids. Can't see how that's a bad thing TBBH
Well said WP. A lot of seem to miss the importance of what a bloke like KMac mean to a club.
Look back to when Whale Roberts was traded Sth Melbourne & the effect that had on us.
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Lol so now the cut off point to be called experienced is 200 games.
We have plenty of experienced players. How many times does it need to be done.
Nankervis, Lynch, Prestia who we also kept for experience, Short who they keep playing, Broad, Vlastuin, Balta has over 100 games Ross, Hopper, Taranto, Kossie, Mansell, Lefau, Young, Miller. Are all mature players aged 24 or more. 9 of em have at least 100 games and the majority of the rest have been on the list for 3 or more years.
Experinced is an excuse Richo is entitled to his opinion but boy i rarely ever listen to what he has to say because he is always wrong.
Simply put the argument is not about experience its about how well he plays what he actually brings on game day and the biggie to be asked is he taking the spot away from a kid simply because of sentiment.
On All three he gets a fail.
Why would it have been so hard to keep him around the club in some sort of capacity without putting him on the list.
He would have made a good leader for all the kids that are coming playing VFL.
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Lol so now the cut off point to be called experienced is 200 games.
We have plenty of experienced players. How many times does it need to be done.
Nankervis, Lynch, Prestia who we also kept for experience, Short who they keep playing, Broad, Vlastuin, Balta has over 100 games Ross, Hopper, Taranto, Kossie, Mansell, Lefau, Young, Miller. Are all mature players aged 24 or more. 9 of em have at least 100 games and the majority of the rest have been on the list for 3 or more years.
Experinced is an excuse Richo is entitled to his opinion but boy i rarely ever listen to what he has to say because he is always wrong.
Simply put the argument is not about experience its about how well he plays what he actually brings on game day and the biggie to be asked is he taking the spot away from a kid simply because of sentiment.
On All three he gets a fail.
Why would it have been so hard to keep him around the club in some sort of capacity without putting him on the list.
He would have made a good leader for all the kids that are coming playing VFL.
Think you're wrong on this one
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Lol so now the cut off point to be called experienced is 200 games.
We have plenty of experienced players. How many times does it need to be done.How many times do people need to ignore it.
Nankervis, Lynch, Prestia who we also kept for experience, Short who they keep playing, Broad, Vlastuin, Balta has over 100 games Ross, Hopper, Taranto, Kossie, Mansell, Lefau, Young, Miller. Are all mature players aged 24 or more. 9 of em have at least 100 games and the majority of the rest have been on the list for 3 or more years.
Experienced is an excuse. Richo is entitled to his opinion but boy i rarely ever listen to what he has to say because he is always wrong.
Simply put the argument is not about experience its about how well he plays what he actually brings on game day and the biggie to be asked is he taking the spot away from a kid simply because of sentiment.
On All three he gets a fail.
Why would it have been so hard to keep him around the club in some sort of capacity without putting him on the list.
He would have made a good leader for all the kids that are coming playing VFL.
Think you're wrong on this one
Mate i get plenty wrong but on this i think im right.
I have already shot the we need him for experience call down. Something his defenders just plain ignore.
We are not bereft of mature and experienced players.
There is no call for us to keep him solely for that reason. In fact it is wrong.
There is nothing but he is good around the club and he has high training standards. That is the pro's for giving him another year on the list. Thanks but no thanks for me.
Another question given the two things they think we need to keep him for, why would we not get him off the list as we are wasting a spot and denying someone a go on the list and find a role for him him within the club either coaching or even playing VFL.
Iv'e been happy to go into his form, his stats his foibles on field and the players who need to be tried in his role.All just ignored so why bother again. it does not suit the pro crowd and will just be ignored again. At least i list good reasons why we should not keep him all i get back is the spurious oh he is good around the club and he trains hard.
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Richo is entitled to his opinion but boy i rarely ever listen to what he has to say because he is always wrong.
You’re a narcissist of the highest order
It’s actually quite funny
If people don’t agree with you , then they are wrong
:lol :lol :lol :lol
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Lol so now the cut off point to be called experienced is 200 games.
We have plenty of experienced players. How many times does it need to be done.How many times do people need to ignore it.
Nankervis, Lynch, Prestia who we also kept for experience, Short who they keep playing, Broad, Vlastuin, Balta has over 100 games Ross, Hopper, Taranto, Kossie, Mansell, Lefau, Young, Miller. Are all mature players aged 24 or more. 9 of em have at least 100 games and the majority of the rest have been on the list for 3 or more years.
Experienced is an excuse. Richo is entitled to his opinion but boy i rarely ever listen to what he has to say because he is always wrong.
Simply put the argument is not about experience its about how well he plays what he actually brings on game day and the biggie to be asked is he taking the spot away from a kid simply because of sentiment.
On All three he gets a fail.
Why would it have been so hard to keep him around the club in some sort of capacity without putting him on the list.
He would have made a good leader for all the kids that are coming playing VFL.
Think you're wrong on this one
Mate i get plenty wrong but on this i think im right.
I have already shot the we need him for experience call down. Something his defenders just plain ignore.
We are not bereft of mature and experienced players.
There is no call for us to keep him solely for that reason. In fact it is wrong.
There is nothing but he is good around the club and he has high training standards. That is the pro's for giving him another year on the list. Thanks but no thanks for me.
Another question given the two things they think we need to keep him for, why would we not get him off the list as we are wasting a spot and denying someone a go on the list and find a role for him him within the club either coaching or even playing VFL.
Iv'e been happy to go into his form, his stats his foibles on field and the players who need to be tried in his role.All just ignored so why bother again. it does not suit the pro crowd and will just be ignored again. At least i list good reasons why we should not keep him all i get back is the spurious oh he is good around the club and he trains hard.
Mate given that you went salty and MIA when we got the 2017 flag after all the nonsense you said beforehand I think we can agree you get plenty wrong from time to time and maybe aren't the best judge of where the club is at culturally etc.
I think the club is better positioned now than it has been most of the last 40 years.
If they see benefit and value in keeping KMac I agree and support their decision.
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Lol so now the cut off point to be called experienced is 200 games.
We have plenty of experienced players. How many times does it need to be done.How many times do people need to ignore it.
Nankervis, Lynch, Prestia who we also kept for experience, Short who they keep playing, Broad, Vlastuin, Balta has over 100 games Ross, Hopper, Taranto, Kossie, Mansell, Lefau, Young, Miller. Are all mature players aged 24 or more. 9 of em have at least 100 games and the majority of the rest have been on the list for 3 or more years.
Experienced is an excuse. Richo is entitled to his opinion but boy i rarely ever listen to what he has to say because he is always wrong.
Simply put the argument is not about experience. its about 1/ how well he plays 2/ what he actually brings on game day and 3/ the biggie to be asked is he taking the spot away from a kid simply because of sentiment?
On All three he gets a fail.
Why would it have been so hard to keep him around the club in some sort of capacity without putting him on the list. Anyone want to answer that one?
He would have made a good leader for all the kids that are coming playing VFL.
Think you're wrong on this one
Mate i get plenty wrong but on this i think im right.
I have already shot the we need him for experience call down. Something his defenders just plain ignore.
We are not bereft of mature and experienced players. Anyone want to actually put up an opposing argument here?
There is no call for us to keep him solely for that reason. In fact it is wrong. imo we are not short of experienced players or more to the point that devoid of them that we have to desperately hang onto underperformers like McIntosh. I have given a pretty decent list to suggest im right.
There is nothing but he is good around the club and he has high training standards. That is the pro's for giving him another year on the list. Thanks but no thanks for me.
Another question apart from the shot down experience crap. given the other two things they think we need to keep him for, why would we not get him off the list as we are wasting a spot and denying someone a go on the list. What is so hard about finding a role for him within the club either coaching or even playing VFL. Anyone want to answer.
Iv'e been happy to go into his form, his stats his foibles on field and the players who need to be tried in his role. All just ignored so why bother again.
Are we having a debate ? well only one side is making any relevant points here..Seems it does not suit the pro crowd to enter into a factual debate nope lets just be ignorant and ignore it again.
At least i list good reasons why we should not keep him, all i get back is the spurious oh he is good around the club and he trains hard.
Mate given that you went salty and MIA when we got the 2017 flag after all the nonsense you said beforehand I think we can agree you get plenty wrong from time to time and maybe aren't the best judge of where the club is at culturally etc.
I think the club is better positioned now than it has been most of the last 40 years.
If they see benefit and value in keeping KMac I agree and support their decision.
So you admit your nothing more than a yes man and don't have an opinion.. If the club says it is so it must be right hey.
The question you need to ask yourself is do you see benefit and value in keeping Flappers? rather than just parroting what the club thinks.
You can think what you like about 2017 nice deflection anyway. Still refusing to make a case for why we should keep McIntosh. So now its if the club sees a benefit then its good enough for me, and it should be good enough for all of us.. Thats not an argument.
We are having a debate about SHOULD we have kept McIntosh if so why.
Funny enough no one wants to talk about why we should keep him. Is that because there is not a very good case to be made as to why we should keep him.
Obviously the club see something god knows what, but apart from, He is a good trainer and he is good around the club what else have they or anyone else here come up with.
OH THATS RIGHT WE ARE BEREFT OF EXPERIENCE.
Who here agrees with that after being shown the list of 100 plus game players and regular 24yrs and older players we have still.
Are people that pathetic that they cannot admit that we do not indeed lack experienced players.
Does anyone want to make a better case for him other than the spurious clap trap that has been dished up so far.
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I’ll have a crack as for a reason they might have kept him.
And I might add I was on the fence regarding whether to do so and didn’t care whichever way they went.
My thoughts.
He plays a position requiring gut running and he covers a lot of territory. Something that often takes the kids aerobically a couple of pre-seasons to be able to do at his levels.
We lost Graham (another who covers territory and Pickett, the other winger)
Maybe they see a role that K-Mac and his ability to gut run both ways on a wing will be able to do that the kids won’t.
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He might not play but will show kids how to prepare professionally to play. That’s all.
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Very good call Damo.
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It's only a problem should he be playing in the 22 every week undeservedly. I can go either way on his retention.
Not worth anyone getting their nickers in a knot over just yet
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It's only a problem should he be playing in the 22 every week undeservedly. I can go either way on his retention.
Not worth anyone getting their nickers in a knot over just yet
Agree
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He might not play but will show kids how to prepare professionally to play. That’s all.
So does he need to be on our list to do that? I don't think so.
Are there no others who cannot do that?
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Claw I gave my reasons in an earlier post and stand by them
Who's pushing him out?
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It's only a problem should he be playing in the 22 every week undeservedly. I can go either way on his retention.
Not worth anyone getting their nickers in a knot over just yet
Agree
Agree X 2.
It’s not gonna make or break our list either way.
Suggest we’ll see a fair few very average players being picked up over the next few seasons as stop gaps, kmac is the least of our worries.
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I wonder if the club will back on its decision ? :whistle
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I’ll have a crack as for a reason they might have kept him.
And I might add I was on the fence regarding whether to do so and didn’t care whichever way they went.
My thoughts.
He plays a position requiring gut running and he covers a lot of territory. Something that often takes the kids aerobically a couple of pre-seasons to be able to do at his levels.
We lost Graham (another who covers territory and Pickett, the other winger)
Maybe they see a role that K-Mac and his ability to gut run both ways on a wing will be able to do that the kids won’t.
Okay at least you had a go. So you surmise there is no one capable of gut running at the club other than McIntosh.
I would argue that HRS a 6th year player and Banks a 4th year player, both not my favorites, are better options and even if they have not gone past him are at worst on a par and are at a stage where they should get precedence. We hope they can only get better from here on in and can be be better for playing seniors. its not as if McIntosh is setting a high bar.
I suppose tis is being Narcissistic you know making a counter argument but its not what you think about McIntosh so it has to be Narcissistic yeah.
Unlike many around here i at least make a case for what i think. what's your excuse?.
I can think of three others i would love for the club to try on a wing. Smith, Trezise and Campbell. Campbell in particular has a good motor and he is definately a kid who can play midfield lets not just pidgeon hole him as a small forward. Again this is where we are at we need to find out what these kids can do in other roles that look like suiting them.
There is also a few in the draft that we could well take.
Our midfield and flanks lack pace and ball use more than anything lets at least try and address it. Kamdyn offers none of this he doesnt even offer a ball winning ability he doesnt tackle and he is not a great marking player despite being 192cm.
Another in Broad i have thought should be tried there as a defensive wing to allow the likes of Brown game time where he belongs or give a defensive spot to Bauer or Trezise. The only way we are going to find out about these kids is regular game time in the seniors.
People say he is the least of our worries and i disagree he is as big a problem we have on the list if he is getting regular games.
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Richo is entitled to his opinion but boy i rarely ever listen to what he has to say because he is always wrong.
You’re a narcissist of the highest order
It’s actually quite funny
If people don’t agree with you , then they are wrong
:lol :lol :lol :lol
Beat me to it
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Richo is entitled to his opinion but boy i rarely ever listen to what he has to say because he is always wrong.
You’re a narcissist of the highest order
It’s actually quite funny
If people don’t agree with you , then they are wrong
:lol :lol :lol :lol
Beat me to it
Oh well done to the moderator. Instead of moderating abusive posts you encourage it.
Fine lets go down that path shall we.
Id like to know where i have said anyone is wrong in this apart from the Richo line and lets be honest here, it is a rare commodity around here for anyone to be honest.
Richo does gets an awful lot wrong and on this one he is wrong if he is useing a lack of Experience as an excuse to hang onto old fumbles. But hey you dont have the guts to address what has been said because you may have to admit your wrong.
Anyone want to make a case in Richo's favour when he says we need to keep Fumbles because of a lack of experience. Anyone ?.
Seems there is more than one Narcissist around here.
Still no one wants to address the points being made but boy the personal stuff is a good way to deflect.
Im still asking all the duffell coat wearers out there to make a case for why we would keep him with something more than a spurious argument.
I actually feel sorry for some of you. you are so caught up in all things Richmond that you cannot be objective when people criticise.
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Oh well done to the moderator. Instead of moderating abusive posts you encourage it.
"Abusive posts"? You got called out for yet again for claiming someone is wrong because they don't agree with you. You do it all the time and when you get called out for it you say your being abused. Based on the meaning of narcissism you were not abused.
Fine lets go down that path shall we.
Id like to know where i have said anyone is wrong in this apart from the Richo line and lets be honest here, it is a rare commodity around here for anyone to be honest.
Richo does gets an awful lot wrong and on this one he is wrong if he is useing a lack of Experience as an excuse to hang onto old fumbles. But hey you dont have the guts to address what has been said because you may have to admit your wrong.
Anyone want to make a case in Richo's favour when he says we need to keep Fumbles because of a lack of experience. Anyone ?.
Seems there is more than one Narcissist around here.
Still no one wants to address the points being made but boy the personal stuff is a good way to deflect.
Im still asking all the duffell coat wearers out there to make a case for why we would keep him with something more than a spurious argument.
I actually feel sorry for some of you. you are so caught up in all things Richmond that you cannot be objective when people criticise.
Here's the thing.
What you put forward is your opinion (s);which you are entitled to. But in your world your opinions are always right.
But without fail as you have proven time and time again is that when anyone writes anything that is the opposite of your opinion they are wrong. Case in point in this thread you say the only person you've said is wrong is Richo. But if you actually read what you have written your posts are full of digs, snide remarks and belittling
You say you were abused but you don't think anything you've posted in your replies is abusive or belittling posters right?
You seem very selective in what you deem to be abuse and what you think is acceptable.
You said in a reply "So you admit your nothing more than a yes man and don't have an opinion" . Is this not a cheapshot, sarcastic belittling comment to people who disagree with you?
Then there's "Okay at least you had a go" again a snide comment when someone has given opinion, a view that differs from yours
And finally you make a sweeping insult with this "Im still asking all the duffell coat wearers out there" again clearly a put down of posters who don't agree with you or who have presented an opinion that you dot like and refuse to acknowledge
As I said you seem to be very selective in what you deem abuse... and please don't use your usual comeback of "I didn't start it, I'm doing what others do to me" ...
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Richo is entitled to his opinion but boy i rarely ever listen to what he has to say because he is always wrong.
You’re a narcissist of the highest order
It’s actually quite funny
If people don’t agree with you , then they are wrong
:lol :lol :lol :lol
This every time i post this is this blokes normal reply. You don't see it you never do.But hey you have your faves to protect don't ya.
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Lol so now the cut off point to be called experienced is 200 games.
We have plenty of experienced players. How many times does it need to be done.How many times do people need to ignore it.
Nankervis, Lynch, Prestia who we also kept for experience, Short who they keep playing, Broad, Vlastuin, Balta has over 100 games Ross, Hopper, Taranto, Kossie, Mansell, Lefau, Young, Miller. Are all mature players aged 24 or more. 9 of em have at least 100 games and the majority of the rest have been on the list for 3 or more years.
Experienced is an excuse. Richo is entitled to his opinion but boy i rarely ever listen to what he has to say because he is always wrong.
Simply put the argument is not about experience. its about 1/ how well he plays 2/ what he actually brings on game day and 3/ the biggie to be asked is he taking the spot away from a kid simply because of sentiment?
On All three he gets a fail.
Why would it have been so hard to keep him around the club in some sort of capacity without putting him on the list. Anyone want to answer that one?
He would have made a good leader for all the kids that are coming playing VFL.
Think you're wrong on this one
Mate i get plenty wrong but on this i think im right.
I have already shot the we need him for experience call down. Something his defenders just plain ignore.
We are not bereft of mature and experienced players. Anyone want to actually put up an opposing argument here?
There is no call for us to keep him solely for that reason. In fact it is wrong. imo we are not short of experienced players or more to the point that devoid of them that we have to desperately hang onto underperformers like McIntosh. I have given a pretty decent list to suggest im right.
There is nothing but he is good around the club and he has high training standards. That is the pro's for giving him another year on the list. Thanks but no thanks for me.
Another question apart from the shot down experience crap. given the other two things they think we need to keep him for, why would we not get him off the list as we are wasting a spot and denying someone a go on the list. What is so hard about finding a role for him within the club either coaching or even playing VFL. Anyone want to answer.
Iv'e been happy to go into his form, his stats his foibles on field and the players who need to be tried in his role. All just ignored so why bother again.
Are we having a debate ? well only one side is making any relevant points here..Seems it does not suit the pro crowd to enter into a factual debate nope lets just be ignorant and ignore it again.
At least i list good reasons why we should not keep him, all i get back is the spurious oh he is good around the club and he trains hard.
Mate given that you went salty and MIA when we got the 2017 flag after all the nonsense you said beforehand I think we can agree you get plenty wrong from time to time and maybe aren't the best judge of where the club is at culturally etc.
I think the club is better positioned now than it has been most of the last 40 years.
If they see benefit and value in keeping KMac I agree and support their decision.
So im not allowed to have a go back after that one bringing up something from 8 years ago. If thats not a personal shot what is.
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I’ll have a crack as for a reason they might have kept him.
And I might add I was on the fence regarding whether to do so and didn’t care whichever way they went.
My thoughts.
He plays a position requiring gut running and he covers a lot of territory. Something that often takes the kids aerobically a couple of pre-seasons to be able to do at his levels.
We lost Graham (another who covers territory and Pickett, the other winger)
Maybe they see a role that K-Mac and his ability to gut run both ways on a wing will be able to do that the kids won’t.
I was not having a go at him in this post initially it was a go at those who just ignore what has been said unlike them he at least had a go. Talk about precious. and selective after all the narcissistic posts he has thrown my way.
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Last one yeah the duffell coat shot was aimed at all those on here who just derail any objective debate with nothing but praise.
Any way i think it pee poor that a mod would join sides and neglect to take a proper look at what is going on.
I have offered this before. If you don't want me here just say it here. I will leave you and your little narrow minded group of cronies to yourselves.I at least am honest when i make it clear i have little time for some around here.
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The only place the man should be played is on the field of battle
To quote the great Malcolm Blight” opinions are like arseh##es everyone’s got one
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Oh stop it, you can’t claim to be the victim if you’re the bully, do you ever wonder why you have so many posters taking offence at your posts?
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I’ll have a crack as for a reason they might have kept him.
And I might add I was on the fence regarding whether to do so and didn’t care whichever way they went.
My thoughts.
He plays a position requiring gut running and he covers a lot of territory. Something that often takes the kids aerobically a couple of pre-seasons to be able to do at his levels.
We lost Graham (another who covers territory and Pickett, the other winger)
Maybe they see a role that K-Mac and his ability to gut run both ways on a wing will be able to do that the kids won’t.
I was not having a go at him in this post initially it was a go at those who just ignore what has been said unlike them he at least had a go. Talk about precious. and selective after all the narcissistic posts he has thrown my way.
You are a deadset effwit
How was I being precious?
My post is VERY REASONABLE
Standard Claw
If it doesn’t suit the narrative, toys out the cot
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The biggest STEAL of every AFL Draft since 2010
Which player provided the biggest bang-for-buck from each National Draft?
Frank Seal
zerohanger.com
November 2, 2024
2012 DRAFT - Kamdyn McIntosh (Richmond Tigers, Pick 31)
In 2012, Richmond's selection of Kamdyn McIntosh at pick 31 proved to be a decision that would bring immense value to the club.
Known for his hard-running ability and versatility, McIntosh solidified his place as a valuable winger and occasionally shifted into a half-back role.
Hailing from Pinjarra, Western Australia, McIntosh's journey was marked by resilience and dedication. After a couple of seasons developing in the VFL, he made an impressive AFL debut in 2015 with a standout performance, earning the Cosgrove-Jenkins award as Richmond's best first-year player.
However, it was his contributions during Richmond's premiership-winning campaigns in 2017 and 2020 that truly highlighted his impact.
Known for his consistent work ethic, McIntosh's robust, hard-running style fit perfectly within Richmond's high-pressure game plan.
His two premiership medals are a testament to his value to the team and his ability to perform on the biggest stage.
His journey from a late second-round pick to a dual premiership player epitomises his evolution into one of the league's underrated steals.
https://www.zerohanger.com/the-biggest-steal-of-every-afl-draft-since-2010-156519/3/
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Frank obviously hasn't met clawski lol
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What I have always liked about KMac has been his commitment to the team and the role given to him by the coaches. Something I think the new breed can learn from.
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What I have always liked about KMac has been his commitment to the team and the role given to him by the coaches. Something I think the new breed can learn from.
That’s all anyone can do, good on him
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Some of the more maligned players by supporters in premiership teams are in fact the most valued inside the 4 walls of the club.
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I think it was in one of Konrad Marshall’s books when he spent a year at tigerland covering a premiership he mentioned kmac is supremely rated at tigerland.
I like to think of afl lists like a game of chess. You have your queen (eg prime dusty) but you also have Pawns and minor pieces. As much as you want you can’t start a game with 15 queens. Kmac is a solid bishop.
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Last one yeah the duffell coat shot was aimed at all those on here who just derail any objective debate with nothing but praise.
Any way i think it pee poor that a mod would join sides and neglect to take a proper look at what is going on.
I have offered this before. If you don't want me here just say it here. I will leave you and your little narrow minded group of cronies to yourselves.I at least am honest when i make it clear i have little time for some around here.
I have deliberately taken a while to reply to this as I thought it was best I take some time to allow myself some time to calm down.
It is very clear to me that you just don't get it. Your replies to things in this thread sadly proves it.
Your opinion(s) are just that your opinion(s) they are no better, no more valid than anyone else's on this forum but somehow you think they are.
You really need to get your head around this ... Despite what you believe or think you are not some great oracle who is always right and has some right to lambast others who dare to disagree with you
As I said last week "without fail as you have proven time and time again is that when anyone writes anything that is the opposite of your opinion they are wrong."
Your very first statement above simply highlights it.
It seems in your world outside of never being wrong you are allowed to belittle people with a jibe but heaven forbid if someone calls you out; you fall back on your standard claim of you're being personally attacked.
Further to that and again using your very first sentence above you justify your insult and imply it is somehow deserved because people are supposedly trying to "derail any objective debate with nothing but praise". Are people not allowed to agree with decisions the Club makes, is that not discussing the issue especially when they clearly explain their views? Clearly in your world it seems it isn't. Well I have a news flash for you that's not on them, that's on you. People are allowed to disagree with you!
Which brings me to your 2nd sentence which if it wasn't so far from the truth it would be funny. As it stands it's just another attempt by you to either deflect or avoid taking any responsibility for your behaviour, your insulting of others and your blindness in believing you are always right. TBH I doubt very much the posters who you claim I am "protecting" and have been issued strikes (suspension) had their posts edited and/or removed would agree with your assertion about me taking sides.
To your final comment and "offer" which BTW I see you had to include another insult for good measure. You want to leave then leave. No one forces you to come on here and post. Don't throw it back on me or anyone else to tell you to go that's the coward's way; for crying out loud own it and make the choice yourself.
You don't like certain people who cares? We all don't have to like each other but what (and this includes you) we should be able to do is show one another respect. and BTW being rude and arrogant towards people isn't being honest despite what you think.
A number of years ago I posted this about this forum and it holds true today ...
"We want discussion, solid debate and differing opinions. ...But to turn on other posters and abuse solely because they have a differing opinion is not on. It actually says more about the person resorting to that rather than those who are prepared to discuss and debate the issues."
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The Punt Rd-inspired side business keeping ‘lucky’ Tiger in check
Kamdyn McIntosh has been instrumental in changing the culture at Richmond. Now, he’s taking the footy club lessons with him as he prepares for life after an AFL career.
Kamdyn McIntosh is more than just a footballer.
He manages KTRDS, his own construction business, instills learnings like culture and punctuality into his business (minus the fine for being late) and drives “a big Richmond car.”
✍️ @edbourke6
https://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/afl/beyond-the-boundary-richmond-stalwart-kamdyn-mcintosh-building-his-career-after-footy/news-story/d487ce3a111791d8e70e175f16fda7d9
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Kamdyn McIntosh shows what a day on-site with KTRDS looks like at a project in Blairgowrie.
(https://content.api.news/v3/images/bin/4ea46aa32abc7e9bde40a91a4e2b528d?width=320) (https://www.thechronicle.com.au/sport/a-day-onsite-with-kamdyn-mcintosh/video/cc2e7d8647dbc541eb8295d0cc3cc1ac)
VIDEO: https://www.thechronicle.com.au/sport/a-day-onsite-with-kamdyn-mcintosh/video/cc2e7d8647dbc541eb8295d0cc3cc1ac
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A big shout out to this bloke after last night. You can doubt his skill level & his disposal, but you can't doubt his heart!
I cheered so hard when he bowled Cripps over in 'Townsend Corner' late in the last quarter! Classic stuff ... :cheers
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Has always troubled me the amount of criticism this guy gets.
This man is one of our great club men from the dynasty era.
Overshadowed by the likes of Jack, Cotch, Rance etc.
Silent achiever and under appreciated, much like Grigg was, and to a lesser extent guys like Astbury and Lambert.
I hate the constant potting of this man. You can find dozens or even hundreds of players with more skill but half the heart. He reminds me of King, Tuck, Jackson etc.
These guys are worth their weight in stuffing gold, especially when there's kids around to model good standards to.
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Thought Kaspi was terrific last night
Has always troubled me the amount of criticism this guy gets.
This man is one of our great club men from the dynasty era.
Overshadowed by the likes of Jack, Cotch, Rance etc.
Silent achiever and under appreciated, much like Grigg was, and to a lesser extent guys like Astbury and Lambert.
I hate the constant potting of this man. You can find dozens or even hundreds of players with more skill but half the heart. He reminds me of King, Tuck, Jackson etc.
These guys are worth their weight in stuffing gold, especially when there's kids around to model good standards to.
Great post Andyy
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Great post Andy
Loved his performance last night , I thought he kept Cripps honest .
With the stars of the team fading fast this boy now shines
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No sweat: Tiger takes tagging role in his stride
Richmond veteran Kamdyn McIntosh did an effective job on Paddy Cripps, and more besides
By Sarah Black
afl.com.au
14 March 2025
THE HEADBAND isn't going anywhere.
Kamdyn McIntosh has never been Richmond's most talented player, and aside from a glorious 2018 qualifying final in the wet against Hawthorn, has rarely won a game off his own boot.
But the winger is now the fourth-most experienced player in the squad (third if you discount the injured Dion Prestia, and second if both Prestia and a possibly-suspended Tom Lynch don't play next week), and has been entrusted with a new role.
KMac the tagger, completed with the bald man donning a headband.
And there's no bigger role in football than taking on reigning Brownlow medallist Paddy Cripps.
While the Carlton superstar still finished with 32 disposals (the tag loosening by the fourth term), 22 were handballs, and he only recorded three inside-50s.
"[McIntosh] wore a headband – I didn't know he was going to wear a headband, it was good because you could see him out there. He's such a terrific teammate, he's just a really good teammate," coach Adem Yze said with a laugh.
"He was tagging Cripps, he was playing second ruck for us, if we need him down back – any role we ask of him, he'll do. Obviously Paddy Cripps is a star, and to nullify his influence – not sure how many possessions Paddy had, but he would have worked hard for all of them. It was a great game by Kamdyn."
For McIntosh himself, it's just another element to add to the mix, two weeks' shy of his 31st birthday.
"Playing on-ball now, it's a bit different than playing on the wing. I'm kind of rapt with the changeup," McIntosh told AFL.com.au.
"At times, I'll be going back through the wing. It's just trying to add a different part to my game than just being a wingman. I'll go through the midfield during the year, but we'll see what happens."
Assistant coach Blake Caracella even dropped by the post-match interview in the bouncing Richmond rooms to chip in with a "how good was he?", after the Tigers' stunning 54-point turnaround against Carlton.
Richmond fielded seven players with fewer than 10 games' AFL experience, compared with Carlton's two.
"It's pretty un-bloody-believable, I should say. You try to stay present in the moment and stuff, but you can't help notice the slack and outside comments on Richmond at the moment, saying we're very young, not going to win a game for the year, this and that," McIntosh said.
"Our first two practice matches, we weren't as bad as it showed on paper. We learned a lot from those games, and we went out there tonight, and we all had a role to play.
"It just shows, that when we do play our roles and our way, and we do bring the pressure and intent – that's a massive part of it – anything can happen. It's an incredible win, to be down at half-time with three first-year players.
"We went in at half-time, and 'Nank' (captain Toby Nankervis) and 'Ooze' (Yze), they spoke about the intent and effort and our ability to put our body on the line. You've got to do that, and these round ones, it's always a high-pressure game.
"The crowd's up and about, and it's a contested game. We went in at half-time, we said we needed to smash in more and take away their uncontested marks and whatnot. They still brought their game, we just had to match it in it and nullify it a bit."
McIntosh has always marched to the beat of his own drum.
And after successfully debuting the headband, will it be back next week against Port Adelaide?
"I think so, it keeps the sweat and sunscreen out of my eyes."
https://www.afl.com.au/news/1278556/no-sweat-tiger-takes-tagging-role-in-his-stride
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Aside from mostly playing wing this guy has gone forward, back, now midfield and tag.
It's amazing really.
We used to marvel at Shedda's versatility but this guy just does whatever is required.
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I never rated him as a winger post 2021 as game changed and that position became more of a creative playmaker role. Pies and Lions put their best ball users there and won flags.
We’ve resisted tagging for some time and never understood it. KMac’s game and running capacity are perfectly suited to tag players like Cripps and Bont
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Aside from mostly playing wing this guy has gone forward, back, now midfield and tag.
It's amazing really.
We used to marvel at Shedda's versatility but this guy just does whatever is required.
Lmao settle down, arguably his best game since the '20 GF(and he's fully deserved every bit of criticism since then btw) but his direct opponent still got 32 touches and was the Scum's BOG... :shh
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Aside from mostly playing wing this guy has gone forward, back, now midfield and tag.
It's amazing really.
We used to marvel at Shedda's versatility but this guy just does whatever is required.
Lmao settle down, arguably his best game since the '20 GF but his direct opponent still got 32 touches and was the Scum's BOG... :shh
Must have had your eyes closed all match.
Cripps had 32 disposals, mostly without impact. Close work from Hopper and KMac curtailed him very well.
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Aside from mostly playing wing this guy has gone forward, back, now midfield and tag.
It's amazing really.
We used to marvel at Shedda's versatility but this guy just does whatever is required.
Lmao settle down, arguably his best game since the '20 GF but his direct opponent still got 32 touches and was the Scum's BOG... :shh
Must have had your eyes closed all match.
Cripps had 32 disposals, mostly without impact. Close work from Hopper and KMac curtailed him very well.
Well, most people would’ve thought he’d have 32 by half time. KMac was very good, I’m glad we kept him.
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Aside from mostly playing wing this guy has gone forward, back, now midfield and tag.
It's amazing really.
We used to marvel at Shedda's versatility but this guy just does whatever is required.
Lmao settle down, arguably his best game since the '20 GF but his direct opponent still got 32 touches and was the Scum's BOG... :shh
Must have had your eyes closed all match.
Cripps had 32 disposals, mostly without impact. Close work from Hopper and KMac curtailed him very well.
I'd suggest it was you who had you eyes closed in the first half if you think Cripps had mimimal impact as they got to 41 up, when KMac was supposedly wearing him like a glove. It was the second half when Cripps' impact diminished which was partially due to him going into the ruck, which clearly wore him down. Either way I'm just glad we finally have a coach who at least believes in taggers. :shh
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Deledio is right about the headband but :lol
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Deledio is right about the headband but :lol
Pfft....Lids never raised a sweat so of course he wouldn't understand.... :shh
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Cripps was very good while the blues were up. Even in the ruck against anyone not named nank, he was dominating. I think Weitering was their best though.
Cripps no doubt getting 3 browlow votes being the umps favourite and all.
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Cripps is clearly their best player. Keeping him to 32 largely ineffective touches (he had a number which also set them up but less than usual) was a great effort
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Aside from mostly playing wing this guy has gone forward, back, now midfield and tag.
It's amazing really.
We used to marvel at Shedda's versatility but this guy just does whatever is required.
Lmao settle down, arguably his best game since the '20 GF but his direct opponent still got 32 touches and was the Scum's BOG... :shh
Must have had your eyes closed all match.
Cripps had 32 disposals, mostly without impact. Close work from Hopper and KMac curtailed him very well.
I'd suggest it was you who had you eyes closed in the first half if you think Cripps had mimimal impact as they got to 41 up, when KMac was supposedly wearing him like a glove. It was the second half when Cripps' impact diminished which was partially due to him going into the ruck, which clearly wore him down. Either way I'm just glad we finally have a coach who at least believes in taggers. :shh
Yeah he faded, as did their hole team. Got ahead of themselves, complacent, couldn't handle the heat when we brought it.
No need to miss clawski when you're around though.
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Aside from mostly playing wing this guy has gone forward, back, now midfield and tag.
It's amazing really.
We used to marvel at Shedda's versatility but this guy just does whatever is required.
Lmao settle down, arguably his best game since the '20 GF but his direct opponent still got 32 touches and was the Scum's BOG... :shh
Must have had your eyes closed all match.
Cripps had 32 disposals, mostly without impact. Close work from Hopper and KMac curtailed him very well.
I'd suggest it was you who had you eyes closed in the first half if you think Cripps had mimimal impact as they got to 41 up, when KMac was supposedly wearing him like a glove. It was the second half when Cripps' impact diminished which was partially due to him going into the ruck, which clearly wore him down. Either way I'm just glad we finally have a coach who at least believes in taggers. :shh
Yeah he faded, as did their hole team. Got ahead of themselves, complacent, couldn't handle the heat when we brought it.
No need to miss clawski when you're around though.
Lmao - one player and said he had a good game just disagreed about how good it actually while also complimenting the coaching -yes very claw-like of me... :propeller
Also agree that Carlton are a hole team. :shh