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Football => Richmond Rant => Topic started by: one-eyed on June 08, 2011, 06:50:44 PM
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Early days I know but Crows recruiter Matt Rendell is equating this year's draft quality to that of 2009. The top 15 will be good players (although not as strong as 2010) but you won't find as many good kids in the 30s and 40s like last year.
On the 16 year old rule for GWS, existing clubs put in a bid into GWS and GWS just picks the best 4 bids whatever they are because they don't care what kids the existing clubs want.
Crows are going for a midfielder presumably with their first pick out of interest.
http://www.fiveaa.com.au/audio_crows-recruiting-guru-matt-rendell-on-the-2011-draft-pool_102016
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they say that nearly every yr
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They said that about 2005 and it turned out to be a pretty good one (except for who we took)
Far too soon to call about 2009 also, the Top 4 look as good as any draft in history, plus Fyfe @ 20 and I'm sure more will come on in time
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Demetriou reckons this draft at the top end will be stronger than last year's ...
http://www.foxsports.com.au/afl/afl-premiership/greater-western-sydney-to-gain-more-talented-group-of-afl-draft-picks-than-gold-coast-suns/story-e6frf3e3-1226084266170?from=public_rss (http://www.foxsports.com.au/afl/afl-premiership/greater-western-sydney-to-gain-more-talented-group-of-afl-draft-picks-than-gold-coast-suns/story-e6frf3e3-1226084266170?from=public_rss)
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Draft picks based on current ladder position (position in brackets)
GWS 1, 2 & 3
Gold Coast (17th) 4
GWS 5
Port Adel (16th) 6
GWS 7
Brisbane (15th) 8
GWS 9
Adelaide (14th) 10
GWS 11
St.kilda (13th) 12
GWS 13
Bulldogs (12th) 14
GWS 15
Richmond (11th) 16
Essendon (10th) 17
North Melbourne (9th) 18
Melbourne (8th) 19
Freo (7th) 20
Sydney (6th) 21
West Coast (5th) 22
Carlton (4th) 23
Hawthorn (3rd) 24
Collingwood (2nd) 25
Geelong (1st) 26
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Early Top 10 2011 draft prediction
Jay Clark
From: Herald Sun
July 07, 2011
IT'S 20 weeks until the national draft but recruiters say the stars have already revealed themselves - here's Jay Clark's early tips for the top 10.
1 Jonathon Patton
Eastern Ranges Key forward
HEIGHT: 197cm WEIGHT: 95kg
STYLE: Jonathan Brown
Can take big pack marks but just as dangerous on the lead. Ideal forward-50m target.
2 Stephen Coniglio
Swan Districts Midfielder
HEIGHT: 182cm WEIGHT: 76kg
STYLE: Marc Murphy
Undecided whether he will nominate for the draft. Wins hard ball and uses speed to spread and create up forward.
3 Chad Wingard
Sturt Midfielder
HEIGHT: 181cm WEIGHT: 73kg
STYLE: Scott Pendlebury
Left footer is super clean and agile slipping through traffic. Quick to move and a tough tackler.
4 Billy Longer
Northern Knights Ruckman
HEIGHT: 202cm WEIGHT: 95kg
STYLE: Dean Cox
Elite speed and neat skills give the ruckman an edge over a lot of his opponents. Improving his endurance.
5 Devon Smith
Geelong Falcons Onballer/small forward
HEIGHT: 175cm WEIGHT: 73kg
STYLE: Sam Mitchell into David Rodan
Ferocious in his pursuit of the ball and ball-carrier at ground level. Highly productive in attack.
6 Todd Elton
Dandenong Stingrays Key forward/ruck
HEIGHT: 197cm WEIGHT: 87kg
STYLE: Jarryd Roughead
Flexibility to be either a focal point in attack or ruck is a huge plus. Big leap and high workrate.
7 Matthew Buntine
Dandenong Stingrays Half-back/wing
HEIGHT: 188cm WEIGHT: 83kg
STYLE: Corey Enright
Can either shut down or rebound from half-back. Selfless type who is natural leader.
8 Hayden Crozier
Eastern Ranges Forward flank/midfielder
HEIGHT: 184cm WEIGHT: 68kg
STYLE: Dale Thomas
Spring-heeled forward is spectacular in the air and highly skilful around goals.
9 Liam Sumnert
Sandringham Dragons Outside midfielder
HEIGHT: 182cm WEIGHT: 70kg
STYLE: Ryan Bastinac
Exciting ball-carrier oozes class with his dashing outside run and slick ball use. Not a big kick.
10 Will Hoskin-Elliott
Western Jets Half-back/wing
HEIGHT: 182cm WEIGHT: 73kg
STYLE: Harry O'Brien
Smooth utility has pace and clean skills in tight situations. Penetrating kick and a strong mark.
http://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/afl/early-top-10-2011-draft-prediction/story-e6frf9jf-1226089390211
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According to the media, this year's draft is considered not as strong as 2012 will be. Only 3-4 top liners.
Clubs already keen on class of 2012
Jay Clark
From: Herald Sun
July 07, 2011 1
NEXT year's national draft is shaping up as one of the best talent pools in a decade.
While Greater Western Sydney will dominate this year's early picks, it is next season's lot that is earning comparisons to the 2001 "super draft" that produced Luke Hodge, Luke Ball and Chris Judd.
A comparable bunch of future superstars is expected to emerge next year.
"This year there are probably about three four-star players but next year it looks like there will be about 10 five-star players," one recruiter said yesterday.
"Is it as good as 2001? It is looming as an absolute cracker, so if it's not, it won't be far off."
Another scout said: "Next year trumps this year's batch comfortably.
"This year there might a few wipe-outs if some clubs don't get the picks right, but there are going to be some superstars next year."
The 2012 draft will be the first in three years that will not be compromised by new clubs being given the majority of early picks.
Clubs entering the rebuilding phase already see it as a key opportunity.
Full article at: http://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/afl/clubs-already-keen-on-class-of-2012/story-e6frf9jf-1226089262240
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Clubs fear draft depth for next crop of youngsters
Jon Ralph
From: Herald Sun
August 12, 2011
THIS year's AFL national draft thins out so dramatically that some clubs might take only one or two selections.
Clubs scrutinising the November draft believe that after a dozen or so quality picks, it will quickly become a lottery where a player taken in the 50s might prove as good as a mid-teens selection.
AFL clubs must take three selections in every national draft, but they can choose to elevate rookies from their existing lists as part of that quota.
The struggling clubs are crying out for talented teenagers to boost their lists, but Greater Western Sydney has nine of the first 15 selections.
It means Brisbane and Port Adelaide will not be able to restock their lists with early selections, and instead will wait for next year's national draft, expected to include a bumper crop.
On present ladder order the only teams that will have access to a top 15 selection will be the Giants (picks No.1, 2, 3, 5, 7, 9, 11, 13, 15), Port Adelaide (No.4), Gold Coast (No.6), Brisbane (No.8), Richmond (No.10), Adelaide (No.12) and Western Bulldogs (No.14).
The premier will receive only pick No.26 with its first-round selection, which by that stage will be speculative.
With potential priority choices and Brisbane opting to use its end-of first round compensation selection, the premier's second-round pick will likely be in the late 40s.
It means clubs with plenty of elite talent will be unlikely to jettison too many from their lists, given new draftees are guaranteed a two-year contract.
Some clubs believe the draft could be as thin as in 2002, but others see opportunity.
They believe the draft's evenness after the early selections means they could eventually land a bargain with a second or third-round pick.
"At the start of the draft it is pretty good for a dozen or so picks, but it could be you get someone at pick 50 who is as good as the pick 15," one recruiter said.
http://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/afl/clubs-fear-draft-depth-for-next-crop-of-youngsters/story-e6frf9jf-1226113424202
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On TAC Future Stars yesterday (Sunday) they ran a first round phantom draft. The order of the draft is still to be determined but before beating the Crows when this was done we had pick 14.
1. GWS - Jonathon Patton
2. GWS - Stephen Coniglio
3. GWS - Chad Wingard
4. Port Adel - Dom Tyson
5. GWS - Billy Longer
6. Gold Coast - Taylor Adams
7. GWS - Devon Smith
8. Brisbane - Toby Greene
9. GWS - Will Hoskin-Elliot
10. Adelaide - Matthew Buntine
11. GWS - Hayden Crozier
12. Melbourne - Todd Elton
13. GWS - Nic Haynes
14. Richmond - Elliot Kavanagh
15. GWS - Daniel Markworth
16. Bulldogs - Liam Sumner
17. Fremantle - Sam Docherty
18. North Melb - Brad McKenzie
19. Essendon - Mitchell Grigg
20. Sydney - Tom Mitchell (F/S)
21. St Kilda - Seb Ross
22. Carlton - Adam Tomlinson
23. West Coast - Clay Smith
24. Hawthorn - Michael Talia
25. Geelong - Josh Tynan
26. Collingwood - Brandon Ellis
http://twitter.com/TACFutureStars
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Cool, so who is Elliot?
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Cool, so who is Elliot?
Kavanagh missed champs. Is touted as top 5 on talent but injury plagued year will see him slide. Not sure how far but if we end up with pick 18 (think we will beat the Roos comfortably unless Harvey has 40+ and 3+ goals and Petire kicks a bag.
Brad McKenzie will be our man at first pick.
Would love us to take a punt on Waylan Manson as a KPF/Ruck at 2nd pick. Vickery to play number 1 ruck. With Griff/JR/Manson to play KPF.
and Steve Morris at 3rd round.
Rumour going on that Carl Peterson could be re-drafted after turning his life around. Was actually a top kid at draft time and moved to Melb and fell in with wrong crowd.
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(http://www.starnewsgroup.com.au/photos/star/week121_09//large/Metro_49271_01_suc7.jpg)
Elliot set on footy path (http://www.starnewsgroup.com.au/star/sunshne-ardeer-albion/297/story/133824.html)
Elliot Kavanagh, Western Jets, 19 May 1993, 187cm, 78kg
The mystery man of this year's draft. Didn't play a minute of football at the championships due to hamstring issues, but is a very highly-rated, quick onballer. One to watch out for in the latter stages of the TAC Cup.
http://oneeyed-richmond.com/forum/index.php?topic=13625.0
Pick 4 – Gold Coast Suns
Elliot Kavanagh (Western Jets)
Ht: 187cm. Wt: 78kg
Kavanagh is the forgotten man of the top 10 due to hamstring and knee issues that restricted his availability with the Jets and Vic Metro. He has all the attributes clubs look for in a midfielder; he is pacy, uses the ball well, has quick hands and is smart. All he needs is a clear run with injury.
Inside Football top 12 (http://oneeyed-richmond.com/forum/index.php?topic=13631.0)
Elliot Kavanagh is a highly rated young midfielder who we have seen very little of this year. Despite his absence from key games, Kavanagh fortunately has already shown us enough over his junior football career to get drafted and he has enough time left in the year to impress and push for a top 10 pick.
Kavanagh is one of the more complete midfielders in this draft. He uses the football well, has great decision making, has pace, works hard and can win his own football when required. If he hadn’t of spent much of this year injured I suspect I’d be talking about him in the same breath as Chad Wingard.
Recruiters loathe picking up players who have been injured in their draft year. As a result the club that does pick him up is likely getting a bargain, as long as they can get his body right, he’ll reward them.
http://www.contestedfooty.com/2011/07/elliot-kavanagh-2011-afl-draft-prospect/
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Is also definately a reason to be happy if we lose. Ill accept a win and McKenzie happily though :D
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So are our picks 14, 32, 50?
with the last pick being used on Steven Morris.
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So are our picks 14, 32, 50?
with the last pick being used on Steven Morris.
Subject to trade week.
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Hayden Hector is going to GWS early pick, His brother is going to another club. ;D
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Interesting times ahead, do we trade either of pick 14 or 32
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Lets trade our picks for more duds, so Jacko and Whitey have more friends. :)
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Interesting times ahead, do we trade either of pick 14 or 32
I wouldnt trade either to be honest.
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Interesting times ahead, do we trade either of pick 14 or 32
I wouldnt trade either to be honest.
Either would I but as I watched Hamish McIntosh line up for that goal in the fianl quarter and then shank it badly I thought to myself ... please come to the Tigerland you'll fit right in ;D
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Interesting times ahead, do we trade either of pick 14 or 32
I wouldnt trade either to be honest.
Either would I but as I watched Hamish McIntosh line up for that goal in the fianl quarter and then shank it badly I thought to myself ... please come to the Tigerland you'll fit right in ;D
McIntosh is a dinosaur. All the ruckmen weve been linked too are duds except Clarke from Freo who would be a good get.
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Would trade pick 14 for an AFL Ruckman. With Foley, Edwards, Morton and Jackson as tradeables.
Looking at Zac Smith, Ben McEvoy, Matthew Leunberger.
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Would trade pick 14 for an AFL Ruckman. With Foley, Edwards, Morton and Jackson as tradeables.
Looking at Zac Smith, Ben McEvoy, Matthew Leunberger.
Leuenberger has re-signed with Brisbane.
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Would trade pick 14 for an AFL Ruckman. With Foley, Edwards, Morton and Jackson as tradeables.
Looking at Zac Smith, Ben McEvoy, Matthew Leunberger.
Leuenberger has re-signed with Brisbane.
With Brisbanes list I have a feeling everyone has a trade price.
Pick 14 and Foley + Morton could test their resolve.
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Lions won't let Voss take other clubs rubbish anymore pope.
We would have to upgrade our first round pick to get an A grade ruck. I think we need to target GWS' pick 9. Just imagine if we could offload Jackson and pick 14 for pick 9!
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Lions won't let Voss take other clubs rubbish anymore pope.
We would have to upgrade our first round pick to get an A grade ruck. I think we need to target GWS' pick 9. Just imagine if we could offload Jackson and pick 14 for pick 9!
Pretty good call there DC.
GWS pick 9 would be perfect. Mind you I was really surprised GC didn't trade one of there later first rounders for a decent player.. Depending on how GWS go with there signings they may look at doing it.
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According to BF, Richmond is interested in Steven Verrier:
"Hey guys, anyone know anything about Steven Verrier being linked with us as a late draft selection? I know him from school and he told me we are 1 of 3 clubs interested in him. I know he has skills, but i don't watch him enough to understand what his strengths and weaknesses are."
http://www.bigfooty.com/forum/showpost.php?p=22315618&postcount=604
2011 Stats:
Club: South Fremantle
DOB: 24th June 1993
From: Kwinana JFC
Height: 188cm
Weight: 82kg
Number: 29
http://www.wafl.com.au/players/view/3938
"Represented Western Australia at the NAB AFL Under 18 Championships, showing his great dash and skills, including ball usage. He is very quick and his decision making is of a high quality."
http://www.kangaroos.com.au/latestnews/newsarticle/tabid/4912/newsid/121172/default.aspx
WAFL Colts: http://wafl.pro-stats.com.au/colts/web/player_profile?pid=100525
WAFL Seniors: http://wafl.pro-stats.com.au/wafl/web/player_profile?pid=100525
Go to 1:00 to see some vision of him
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8f-VAOTbpVM
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#45 GWS - Steven Verrier (188cm midfielder - South Fremantle)
Played for WA in the U18 Championships, and has made a league debut back home in the WAFL. Not the most productive player going around, but he has shown signs of being a special player. Has good speed, no problems with his disposal and looks to be a smart player. Will be one of those players who likely rotates through a number of different positions. AFL Comparison: Garrick Ibbotson.
Pick 41 West Coast Eagles
Stephen Verrier South Fremantle Football Club
188cm 82kg's
Stephen has been playing good footy for South Fremantle Colts.
He is a lovely size and uses the footy extremely well, loves to run and carry the footy, breaks lines very well.
He is also good overhead which would allow him to play the high half foward role at Afl level that is so important these days.
This is one area of weakness at wce dont have enough run and carry player's, maybe a stretch picking him here but i see him as good value.
#78 St Kilda – Steven Verrier (WA – Mid/Util)
Height: 185cm, Weight: 80kg, DOB: 24/06/1993
Recruited from: South Fremantle Football Club
Style:
Player comparison:
Range: 45-rookie
Profile: Probably didn’t see the level of production I was expecting from him during the U18 championships but still I like the look of him. But still showed some bits I liked. Looks good through the midfield, down back and even looks dangerous at times when he pushes forward. Is a nice user of the ball by foot. Has line breaking ability. Seems to read the ball really well. Nice tackling ability.
Why:
Seems to be the type we would target so no suprises really.
FWIW one of the draft watchers on BF has Mitch Grigg at 25 now. Not sure why he has dropped him down. He is an SA based watcher so i found that interesting. Would love this kid at the Tiges. Would be our best Grigg ;D
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From poster 'Grockadoc' on BF:
"Saw Steven [Verrier] today. He has had another 4 clubs approach him taking the total number of clubs interested to 7. Richmond are dead keen to get him as a 4th rounder, but Adelaide and Brisbane are really keen on him as well. Saw a couple of matches of his today that eh showed me and he would be a likely type. My impressions were that he plays a lot like Lids. Has silky footskills and really keen decision making. The only downside I can think of is he really close to his family and he doesn't know how he would handle being away from them. Would be an upgrade on Edwards too if we manage to land him as a fourth rounder, it would be a good pickup for the club."
http://www.bigfooty.com/forum/showpost.php?p=22327965&postcount=615
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a later selection yet has good skills and decision making - exactly the type of player i expect us to target.
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Heard a lot of clubs interested with a 4th. If Morris costs us a 4th only then would be more than happy with this kid as 3rd pick.
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For those interested, I've posted a collection of video highlights from the AFL website for 67 potential draftees. I'll add more as they become available.
http://oneeyed-richmond.com/forum/index.php?topic=14166.0
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Thanks mate
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Anyone who hasn't seen Waldhuter i suggest have a look. Potential 2nd round material.
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On TAC Future Stars yesterday (Sunday) they ran a first round phantom draft. The order of the draft is still to be determined but before beating the Crows when this was done we had pick 14.
1. GWS - Jonathon Patton
2. GWS - Stephen Coniglio
3. GWS - Chad Wingard
4. Port Adel - Dom Tyson
5. GWS - Billy Longer
6. Gold Coast - Taylor Adams
7. GWS - Devon Smith
8. Brisbane - Toby Greene
9. GWS - Will Hoskin-Elliot
10. Adelaide - Matthew Buntine
11. GWS - Hayden Crozier
12. Melbourne - Todd Elton
13. GWS - Nic Haynes
14. Richmond - Elliot Kavanagh
15. GWS - Daniel Markworth
16. Bulldogs - Liam Sumner
17. Fremantle - Sam Docherty
18. North Melb - Brad McKenzie
19. Essendon - Mitchell Grigg
20. Sydney - Tom Mitchell (F/S)
21. St Kilda - Seb Ross
22. Carlton - Adam Tomlinson
23. West Coast - Clay Smith
24. Hawthorn - Michael Talia
25. Geelong - Josh Tynan
26. Collingwood - Brandon Ellis
http://twitter.com/TACFutureStars
Anyone that thinks Mitch Grigg will last to pick 19 shouldn't be putting together Phanton Drafts
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On TAC Future Stars yesterday (Sunday) they ran a first round phantom draft. The order of the draft is still to be determined but before beating the Crows when this was done we had pick 14.
1. GWS - Jonathon Patton
2. GWS - Stephen Coniglio
3. GWS - Chad Wingard
4. Port Adel - Dom Tyson
5. GWS - Billy Longer
6. Gold Coast - Taylor Adams
7. GWS - Devon Smith
8. Brisbane - Toby Greene
9. GWS - Will Hoskin-Elliot
10. Adelaide - Matthew Buntine
11. GWS - Hayden Crozier
12. Melbourne - Todd Elton
13. GWS - Nic Haynes
14. Richmond - Elliot Kavanagh
15. GWS - Daniel Markworth
16. Bulldogs - Liam Sumner
17. Fremantle - Sam Docherty
18. North Melb - Brad McKenzie
19. Essendon - Mitchell Grigg
20. Sydney - Tom Mitchell (F/S)
21. St Kilda - Seb Ross
22. Carlton - Adam Tomlinson
23. West Coast - Clay Smith
24. Hawthorn - Michael Talia
25. Geelong - Josh Tynan
26. Collingwood - Brandon Ellis
http://twitter.com/TACFutureStars
Anyone that thinks Mitch Grigg will last to pick 19 shouldn't be putting together Phanton Drafts
Seems it was on TAC future stars it is heavily biased to any player born in Victoria. Suprised Coniglio/Grigg/Wingard even got in the draft.
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I havent seen all the highlight tapes and certainly you cant tell just from those who are any good but Mitch Grigg, Sam Frost, Luke Brown, Henry Schade, Brett O'Hanlon and Gibson Turner looked like good possibilities to me just from the first batch of videos I saw. Theres no point looking at Hoskin Elliott and the likes of Dominic Tyson coz they wont be available when we pick IMHO.
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Nothing to do with us but Emma Quayle has posted that Hawthorn will only be using 2 picks in the National draft. Probably sums up what many clubs think of the depth of this draft.
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Or just what Hawthorn think ;D
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From what i've seen from this draft crop there is a real opportunity to un-earth some players late if we've done our hw. Got to remember Hawthorn were 3mins away from playing a Grand Final while we finished 12th. The draft is even and will have many flunks at the top but also many late successes too. Does our club have faith in our recruiters to do the job. Would also like to see some player for player trades done with players we no longer want.
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TAC Cup Future Stars show just did a first round phantom draft and they had us picking up Daniel Markworth from the Calder Cannons at pick 14.
Daniel Markworth
DOB: 03/04/1992
Height: 189cm
Weight: 76kg
Club: Calder Cannons/Macedon
(http://www1.pictures.zimbio.com/gi/Daniel+Markworth+TAC+Cup+Rd+2+Calder+Cannons+P86FF4fUziQl.jpg)
TAC Cup U18 Stats:
http://www.sportingpulse.com/team_info.cgi?player=Daniel%20Markworth&action=PSTATS&pID=192369607&client=1-3020-0-150804-14528497 (http://www.sportingpulse.com/team_info.cgi?player=Daniel%20Markworth&action=PSTATS&pID=192369607&client=1-3020-0-150804-14528497)
No.1 in goal assists in the TAC Cup.
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Here's their first round phantom draft btw:
1. GWS - Jonathon Patton Eastern Ranges, 20 May 1993, 197cm, 95kg
2. GWS - Stephen Coniglio Swan Districts, 15 December 1993, 182cm, 76kg
3. GWS - Dom Tyson Northern Knights, 8 June 1993, 186cm, 82kg
4. GC - Chad Wingard Sturt, 29 July 1993, 181cm, 73kg
5. GWS - Billy Longer Northern Knights, 12 May 1993, 202cm, 95kg
6. Port - Taylor Adams Geelong Falcons, 30 September 1993, 181cm, 80kg
7. GWS - Elliott Kavanagh Western Jets, 19 May 1993, 187cm, 78kg
8. Bris - Will Hoskin-Elliott Western Jets, 2 September 1993, 190cm, 76kg
9. GWS - Matthew Buntine Dandenong, 19 October 1993, 188cm, 83kg
10. Adel - Alex Forster Norwood, 14 July 1993, 189cm, 75kg
11. GWS - Devon Smith Geelong Falcons, 20 May 1993, 175cm, 73kg
12. Melb - Toby Greene Oakleigh Chargers, 15 September 1993, 180cm, 78kg
13. GWS - Liam Sumner Sandringham Dragons, 16 August 1993, 182cm, 70kg
14. Rich - Daniel Markworth Calder Cannons, 3 April 1992, 189cm, 76kg
15. GWS - Hayden Crozier Eastern Ranges, 24 December 1993, 184cm, 68kg
16. Freo - Fraser McInnes Perth, Age: 18, 194cm, 87kg
17. WB - Nic Haynes Dandenong Stingrays. Age: 19, 191 cm, 76 kg.
18. North - Sam Docherty Gippsland Power, 17 Oct 1993, 183cm, 83kg
19. Ess - Mitch Grigg Norwood, 2 January 1993, 183cm, 81kg
20. St K - Thomas Sheridan Calder Cannons, 28 October 1993, 185cm, 76kg
21. Syd - Tom Mitchell Claremont, 31 May 1993, 181cm, 79kg
22. Carl - Julian Dobosz North Hobart, Age: 18, 193cm, 85kg
23. Haw - Brad McKenzie Sturt, 29 May 1993, 188cm, 75kg
24. WC - Adam Tomlinson Oakleigh Chargers, 10 August 1993, 192cm, 86kg
25. Coll - Sam Frost Sandringham Dragons, 28 August 1993, 193cm, 85kg
26. Geel - Brandon Ellis Calder Cannons, 3 August 1993, 181cm, 81kg
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Wouldn't mind Markworth if our recruiters feel he can play as a mid long-term. Goal-kicking mids with speed are something we need.
A few phantom drafts i've seen rate him very highly on potential. One has him in as a potential A-grader.
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For those interested, I've posted a collection of video highlights from the AFL website for 67 potential draftees. I'll add more as they become available.
http://oneeyed-richmond.com/forum/index.php?topic=14166.0
^ cheers mate - some interesting watching...
Markworth looks ok - have to back our recruiting staff's judgement with this "thinner draft"...one thing that stands out is that there's not too many bigs/key pos on the phantom draft list - all around the 180 - 190mark and fairly light on (bar a couple)...
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76kg's at 189 cm, light but looks like plenty of room to pack on some beef, tracking nicely for mid to upper 80kg mark with a few pre seasons in the gym, could be a nice pickup if he has the skills.
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76kg's at 189 cm, light but looks like plenty of room to pack on some beef, tracking nicely for mid to upper 80kg mark with a few pre seasons in the gym, could be a nice pickup if he has the skills.
Has the skills supposively. Has huge legs so would imagine he will fill out in the upper body quite nicely. A quick goal-kicking mid. Pretty sure we need one of them.
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I would imagine he has a cm or two of height to go too given his age.
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76kg's at 189 cm, light but looks like plenty of room to pack on some beef, tracking nicely for mid to upper 80kg mark with a few pre seasons in the gym, could be a nice pickup if he has the skills.
Has the skills supposively. Has huge legs so would imagine he will fill out in the upper body quite nicely. A quick goal-kicking mid. Pretty sure we need one of them.
I would imagine he has a cm or two of height to go too given his age.
^ sounds like he could fill out & mature nicely - skills def don't seem to be his biggest concern from all reports - and yes, we could def do with some more goal kicking mids :)
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From two of the regular BF phantom draft makers (Knightmare and Bulldogsman):
#24 Daniel Markworth (VIC – Mid/Fwd)
Height: 189cm, Weight: 78kg, DOB: 03/04/1992
Recruited from: Calder Cannons
Player comparison: Nat Fyfe
Range: 10-35
Profile: Overager with nice positional flexibility. High character. Comes from a tennis and basketball background. Has played as leadup forward as well as a midfielder and brings really nice versatility. Very high athlete with a super burst of pace. Not bad by foot and has a good 55m kick on him. Good ball user by both hand and foot. New to AFL but showing some big progress! Looks very draftable. Still learning the game. Project. But has made big progress! Just keeps getting better with every game he plays and there seems to be allot of upside.
http://www.bigfooty.com/forum/showthread.php?t=843582
PICK 20 – Daniel Markworth (Calder Cannons)
Height: 189cm Weight: 76kg Age: 19
Medium forward/Midfielder
Lead up forward that has shown some ability to play through the midfield. Only fairly new to the game but has shown a lot this year. Was ranked no 1 for goal assists and no 4 on the goal kicking ladder in the TAC cup. Has very good pace and very clean hands. He can take a contested grab. He’s a good kick and can be quite creative. Decision making is generally ok and will only improve. Still has plenty of upside and is still learning the game. I can see him developing as a midfielder eventually with his break away pace being his weapon.
Can’t see this guy slipping past... middle of the 2nd round
http://www.bigfooty.com/forum/showthread.php?t=876935
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Why would we go with a project player with our first round pick who'll need 3 years to stack on the 12-14 kgs needed to play at AFL level?! ??? Surely you go with the best available footballer with your first pick such as a Grigg based on that TAC Cup Future Stars phantom draft.
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Why would we go with a project player with our first round pick who'll need 3 years to stack on the 12-14 kgs needed to play at AFL level?! ??? Surely you go with the best available footballer with your first pick such as a Grigg based on that TAC Cup Future Stars phantom draft.
absolutely MT - dont take risks with first couple of picks
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agree shouldn't be taking risks with our first pick but his weight is a non issue
conca, batch and helbig were all around the 76-78kg mark
this markworth bloke is almost identical size to batch
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Batch was 188cm, 82kg when drafted (a differential of 6 == height/10 - weight)
Reece was 185cm, 79kg (also a differential of 6)
Helbig was 185cm, 75kg (differential of 10 but he was a 3rd round pick - pick 47)
You don't risk first round picks on kids who need to put on 12-14kgs unless they are rucks/tall KPPs who are high 190s/200+cm tall.
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agree shouldn't be taking risks with our first pick but his weight is a non issue
conca, batch and helbig were all around the 76-78kg mark
this markworth bloke is almost identical size to batch
spot on. people see project and think its a worry. The first PD one-eyed put up rates Markworth the 8th best player long term. That's what we want. Could take the best current player and end up with the 30th best in 3 years or the 30th best now who ends up being top 5 in 3 years. I know which one i'd take. 76-78kg isn't bad at all. 70kg would be a worry.
I'd take Nat Fyfe in a heartbeat.
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Batch was 188cm, 82kg when drafted (a differential of 6 == height/10 - weight)
Reece was 185cm, 79kg (also a differential of 6)
Helbig was 185cm, 75kg (differential of 10 but he was a 3rd round pick - pick 47)
You don't risk first round picks on kids who need to put on 12-14kgs unless they are rucks/tall KPPs who are high 190s/200+cm tall.
The kid is an outside mid with elite skill and pace. We won't necessarily take him but he's hardly a risk.
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batchy is still listed at 188 78 on the RFC site, and there are differing reports (like with all draftees) on markworth's weight
nope, markworth's weight is not the issue at all, he'd be into the 80 range before R1
the issue is he's a project, end of story
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and that height weight differential formula is a nothing more than antiquated layman's guide
has nothing to do with capabilities, long and short term, of playing at AFL level, debunked long ago
my concern with markworth is his lack of time in the game
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nope, markworth's weight is not the issue at all, he'd be into the 80 range before R1
the issue is he's a project, end of story
spot on
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OER the foundation for Richmond supporters to scream "Dud" on draft day :lol
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I would be surprised if Batch weighed only 78kgs seeing him and the way he plays but in any case he wasn't a first round pick so he's not a contrary example. IMO you don't use first round picks on mids who will need to put on 12 kgs especially when there will be safer alternatives who are real footballers available at pick 14 who don't need to learn to the basics of the game. Our recruiters in this year's draft will earn their money with our 2nd, 3rd and 4th round picks moreso than our first rounder.
OER the foundation for Richmond supporters to scream "Dud" on draft day :lol
:lol
We've been pretty good lately. I don't think we've done that with our first pick since JON in 2005.
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Here's some video highlights of Daniel Marksworth for those interested:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xrfbKe4Khds
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Nice mitts and a dead eye kick...liking it.
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I like Mitch Grigg
and Owl's hooters
how are ya lovely?
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Im just peachy, how are you action gerkin!
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I like Mitch Grigg
and Owl's hooters
how are ya lovely?
Hey Gerks I want you to answer honestly here but when you write posts like this - like are you laughing as your typing :lol
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Im just peachy, how are you action gerkin!
good mate, stopped peeing blood a few weeks ago so i think i'm in the clear
I like Mitch Grigg
and Owl's hooters
how are ya lovely?
Hey Gerks I want you to answer honestly here but when you write posts like this - like are you laughing as your typing :lol
usually i'm in raptures, moaning approval at myself
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whilst wearing his salad fingers outfit and a hands free carrot
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whilst wearing his salad fingers outfit and a hands free carrot
What's a hands free carrot? Sounds like it could be handy for my Donkey 8) 8)
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lawl
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What type of player are we going to the draft looking for?
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decent kick, good decision maker, of sound character with a drive to succeed.
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What type of player are we going to the draft looking for?
A Wayne Carey/Luke McGuane type.
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What type of player are we going to the draft looking for?
Welcome to OER footyhead :).
I've just moved the draft discussion to this thread as the other sticky thread is more about the draft order rather than any player discussion. Cheers.
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What type of player are we going to the draft looking for?
A Wayne Carey/Luke McGuane type.
;D
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What type of player are we going to the draft looking for?
With us securing a ruckman and small defender via trades, if we keep hold of our first pick (15) then it will most likely be a midfielder IMO. The quality of our mids falls away quickly after the top few in Cotch, Dusty and Lids (although he plays mainly at HB). We also still need a big body key defender but that may have to wait until next year (free agency) unless we can trade back into the second round.
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Lids needs to come into the midfield, he black off the flank and even though he does a good job. he is a natural for the midfield it needs to happen sooner than later... cmon tiges :thumbsup
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Deledio to the forward line. Would run riot if the ball got to that part of the ground.
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What type of player are we going to the draft looking for?
With us securing a ruckman and small defender via trades, if we keep hold of our first pick (15) then it will most likely be a midfielder IMO. The quality of our mids falls away quickly after the top few in Cotch, Dusty and Lids (although he plays mainly at HB). We also still need a big body key defender but that may have to wait until next year (free agency) unless we can trade back into the second round.
Would have to be another midfielder surely. Every great team has a plethora of midfield talent. We drop away very quickly.
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Is it confirmed we holding tambling pick for 2012?
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yes we would of had to nominate using that compo pick ages ago to use it this year.
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But we could still trade it....
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What type of player are we going to the draft looking for?
A Wayne Carey/Luke McGuane type.
;D
Get a clue idiots ;D
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Angus Graham/Gary Ablett junior type
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Richmond's National draft picks post-trade period:
15, 26, 55, 73, 79, 91, etc....
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I'll post this on the draft board as well but Inside Football has Richmond selecting Taylor Adams at pick 15...
INSIDE THE DRAFT – BRETT ANDERSON
Picking this draft one big headache!
Inside Football
October 25, 2011
Without doubt 2011 has proven to be the most difficult year to not only assess players' credentials, but also to align them with a likely destination.
With GWS monopolising the first half of the first round, a lot of logic can be thrown out the window as the Giants need to build their list in areas of need, not necessarily simply take the best players available.
"It's hard enough trying to work out this draft from a club perspective, let alone doing a phantom draft. That's nigh on impossible!" said one national recruiting manager.
However, we are up for a challenge and based on hours of interviews and a little inside info, here is our top 15.
1. GWS Giants – Jonathon Patton (Eastern Ranges)
Key position prospects as good as Patton come along rarely. He has a rare combination of size, power and talent. He is one of the best prospects to come out of the TAC Cup in some time and will be an imposing figure in the Giants' forward half for a decade and more.
2. GWS Giants – Stephen Coniglio (Swan Districts)
A multi-sport star who has been touted as a future gun ever since his four-goal WAFL grand final in 2010. Ticks nearly all the boxes as a modern midfielder and will be ready to step in straight away. He'll fit in nicely alongside Scully, Ward, Palmer, Shiel in the midfield.
3. GWS Giants – Dom Tyson (Oakleigh Chargers)
A smooth midfielder whose only chink may be that he lacks a metre of pace. What he lacks though, he more than makes up for with the speed at which his brain works. He thinks a step ahead of most, and his ball skills are elite.
4. GWS Giants – Matt Buntine (Dandenong Stingrays)
Rock solid prospect who excels as a mid-sized defender but can also play through the midfield. Uses the ball well and reads the play well. He is an outstanding leader who will add to the Giants' crop of up-and-coming stars.
5. GWS Giants – Chad Wingard (Sturt)
Once considered a surefire top-three pick, Wingard's stock fell a touch after an injury-interrupted national carnival and some underwhelming test results. However, he boasts an elite left foot, plenty of class and has been destined for GWS for a long time.
6. Port Adelaide – Liam Sumner (Sandringham Dragons)
Where Sumner fits in will dictate what follows. He is an outside, ball carrying midfielder who oozes x-factor, something that Port has been crying out for. If Wingard is available here, he makes some sense due to being a local boy, but the Power weren't overly impressed by his efforts at the Draft Combine.
7. GWS Giants – Will Hoskin-Elliott (Western Jets)
The Giants really like Hoskin-Elliott and it's not a case of if they will draft him but where. He is an outside midfielder with great athleticism who can also play forward if need be. He is higher on some clubs' draft boards than others.
8. Brisbane Lions – Adam Tomlinson (Oakleigh Chargers)
One of the Lions' first two picks must be a tall. The addition of Jordan Lisle was offset by the loss of Mitch Clark and Tomlinson looms as the perfect modern defender. He is athletic, kicks well and is strong overhead. GWS is keen but the Lions can swoop.
9. GWS Giants – Elliott Kavanagh (Western Jets)
Injuries have held Kavanagh back from being able to display his full wares but he could be one of the best picks the Giants make. He is an ultra smart player with clean hands and skills. GWS can take a punt on his body coming good due to having so many early picks.
10. GWS Giants – Sam Docherty (Gippsland Power)
If Docherty had some exposed form in the midfield he could well have been gone by pick No.5. As a rebounding defender, he is as good as they get. Plays with great speed and competitiveness and, most important of all, is an elite decision maker and kick. Will be a star – love him.
11. GWS Giants – Toby Greene (Oakleigh Chargers)
Greene does no one thing brilliantly but continues to play well at whichever level he progresses to. He's a smart player and has a big engine. Some clubs adore him while others are happy they don't have to make a call on him this high.
12. Brisbane Lions – Devon Smith (Geelong Falcons)
Having had Luke Power retire then head to GWS, Brisbane needs an adequate replacement. In Smith, it has exactly that. He is a smart midfielder/small forward with an eye for goal, great foot skills and will put his head over the ball. He will be a beauty. Toby Greene was the other player the Lions really liked here.
13. GWS Giants – Billy Longer (Northern Knights)
Most would expect Longer to be taken well inside the top 10, but we hear the Giants aren't totally sold. Logic suggests that with 11 of the first 14 picks, they simply have to take him somewhere to avoid the embarrassment should he go on to become a star but don't be surprised if they pass on him and pick a ruckman later on.
14. GWS Giants – Nick Haynes (Dandenong Stingrays)
Late developer who the GWS recruiters rate highly. Athletic player who can play as a wingman or tall half forward and marks very well overhead. Has come a long way in a year but projects well at the next level.
15. Richmond – Taylor Adams (Geelong Falcons)
The Tigers would love Tomlinson but will be happy to settle for Adams. He is an in-and-under ball winner and born leader who will compliment the likes of Cotchin, Martin and Foley.
http://www.insidefootballonline.com/feature.html
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15. Richmond – Taylor Adams (Geelong Falcons)
The Tigers would love Tomlinson but will be happy to settle for Adams. He is an in-and-under ball winner and born leader who will compliment the likes of Cotchin, Martin and Foley.
Here's some vision of Adams:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CDbf94xHXtY
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It seems every phantom draft every year links us to a small ::). Why would we go with another sub-180cm kid when we are already too much a small/short side as is.
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Because our second tier mids are crap. We need way more depth in this department. You can NEVER have too many A-Grade smalls. We need to replace Jacko and Tuck with quality inside mids who are reliable (by foot and by effort).
I am all for taking the best player available in this draft. But if there is little more than just speculation separating a bunch of players, then I believe we should target an inside mid. We need a Selwood type, to complement Cotch and Dusty. Cotch shoulders far too much of the load at the moment.
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Because our second tier mids are crap. We need way more depth in this department. You can NEVER have too many A-Grade smalls. We need to replace Jacko and Tuck with quality inside mids who are reliable (by foot and by effort).
I am all for taking the best player available in this draft. But if there is little more than just speculation separating a bunch of players, then I believe we should target an inside mid. We need a Selwood type, to complement Cotch and Dusty. Cotch shoulders far too much of the load at the moment.
X2
But no skinny runts
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You've been warned about dodging the swear filter Dookie.
5 point infraction.
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FFS not another bloody small, I couldnt give a crap how much potential he has.....NO MORE SMALLS!!!!!!!!!!!!
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FFS not another bloody small, I couldnt give a crap how much potential he has.....NO MORE SMALLS!!!!!!!!!!!!
By 'small' i mean midfielder. Are you saying that you dont want any more mids drafted?
Or do you mean no more skinny/weak players? if so, then we are in agreement.
I just think we need a quality inside mid.
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FFS not another bloody small, I couldnt give a crap how much potential he has.....NO MORE SMALLS!!!!!!!!!!!!
Or do you mean no more skinny/weak players? if so, then we are in agreement.
This one.
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FFS not another bloody small, I couldnt give a crap how much potential he has.....NO MORE SMALLS!!!!!!!!!!!!
Or do you mean no more skinny/weak players? if so, then we are in agreement.
This one.
:thumbsup
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FFS not another bloody small, I couldnt give a crap how much potential he has.....NO MORE SMALLS!!!!!!!!!!!!
Or do you mean no more skinny/weak players? if so, then we are in agreement.
This one.
Kid is a little tank.
If he lasts we will be ecstatic IMO. We have actually delisted a few of our shorter guys this year and our problem hasn't been the fact we have short players its that we have had untalented short players.
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FFS not another bloody small, I couldnt give a crap how much potential he has.....NO MORE SMALLS!!!!!!!!!!!!
But I was sweating on an oompa loompa...
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Still reckon we need a decently built backman, Conca should get a crack in the midfield next year, that is what he was recruited for. Yes he is still young but he already has the smarts to play in the mid, just needs a bigger tank.
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Conca should (should) be noticeably better this coming season purely on the grounds that he had stuff all of a preseason for the season past.
But I still reckon Batch will turn out to be a better player in the long run.
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ClarkyHeraldSun Jay Clark twitter:
"How would this bloke Toby Greene (http://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/afl/toby-greene-a-ball-magnet/story-e6frf9jf-1226176698992) go at Richmond @RalphyHeraldSun Or Tiges midfield complete now?"
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FFS not another bloody small, I couldnt give a crap how much potential he has.....NO MORE SMALLS!!!!!!!!!!!!
Or do you mean no more skinny/weak players? if so, then we are in agreement.
This one.
Kid is a little tank.
If he lasts we will be ecstatic IMO. We have actually delisted a few of our shorter guys this year and our problem hasn't been the fact we have short players its that we have had untalented short players.
Reminds me of a young Boomer Harvey. Question over his leg speed though....quick off the mark but top speed looks slow. Draft combine results look to support this.
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FFS not another bloody small, I couldnt give a crap how much potential he has.....NO MORE SMALLS!!!!!!!!!!!!
Or do you mean no more skinny/weak players? if so, then we are in agreement.
This one.
Kid is a little tank.
If he lasts we will be ecstatic IMO. We have actually delisted a few of our shorter guys this year and our problem hasn't been the fact we have short players its that we have had untalented short players.
Disagree in part. Yes we have many short players who are untalented :P but overall we are too small over the whole ground. Line us up one-on-one against a Geelong, Carlton or Hawthorn and we are undersized. We need strong body mid who are mid-180cms. From memory in the AFL spiel about Taylor Adams they compare him to Jimmy Bartel. The problem is Bartel is 187cm tall compared to Adams who is only 179cm. As much as footy has evolved, finals are still won by being bigger, stronger and faster. Sides that have relied on simply a quick running game such as the Bulldogs have flopped in September. There's less time and space in finals so it's more contested footy. IIRC all but one final this year was one by the side that won the contested possessions.
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For those interested the draft edition of Inside Football is out today.
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For those interested the draft edition of Inside Football is out today.
Feedback if you can please OE.. cheers mate.
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For those interested the draft edition of Inside Football is out today.
Feedback if you can please OE.. cheers mate.
Inside Footy has a top 15 with us selecting Taylor Adams at #15 as posted within the last page or so. The rest is very much done in the style of previous years where they provide a brief spiel on about 100 kids with detail articles on some of the ones expected to go early in the draft. I'll use it as part of setting up a draft resource thread as I've done over the past couple of years.
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For those interested the draft edition of Inside Football is out today.
Feedback if you can please OE.. cheers mate.
Inside Footy has a top 15 with us selecting Taylor Adams at #15 as posted within the last page or so. The rest is very much done in the style of previous years where they provide a brief spiel on about 100 kids with detail articles on some of the ones expected to go early in the draft. I'll use it as part of setting up a draft resource thread as I've done over the past couple of years.
Good on you bud cheers.
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Highlights of Adams.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CDbf94xHXtY
Hard to tell just how much class he has, but he's definitely the type we need. Hard and strong inside mid.
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Really think we should target genuine mids only in this draft. No more skinny wingman/flanker types. We have enough bits and pieces types like Conners, Dea, Edwards, Grigg, Helbig, Houli, King, MacDonald, Morris, Nahas, Newman, Webberley and White. And none of those can really go into the midfield and make a differnce.
We have Cotch, Lids, Dusty, Foley and hopefully Conca that can be as good as any going around but after that it is made up of those bits and pieces types and Jackson and Tuck. In the perfect world we will never see Jackson ever again!!!
Our list seems to have enough KPP at present in Astbury, Gourdis (who i think will step up this year with a little more gametime), Griffiths, Grimes, McGuane, Miller, Moore, Post, Rance, Riewoldt and Vickery. Would rookie another one or two.
In terms of Ruckman we have- Maric, Gus, Browne, Derickx and even Vickery. So just need to rookie one or two.
My side for round 1 would look something like this
Batch(to play as the third tall) Grimes Morris(to play on small forward)
Newman Rance Houli
Nahas Foley Conca
Martin Griffiths Edwards/King after round 1
Vickery Riewoldt Pick 15(mid)
Maric Cotch Lids
Pick 26(mid) Tuck Grigg Conners
So rotating through the middle would be- Cotch, Lids, Foley then Martin, Pick 15, Tuck, Grigg, Conca, Pick 26 and even Newman.
The side is starting to have some real size and class. Still needs a few up gardes but definatelly getting there. :gotigers
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Anyone got any highlights of Tom Sheridan
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Good summary, big Tone.
But if you were to brake that down even further, I think a strong-bodied inside mid should be the priority at 15.
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Anyone got any highlights of Tom Sheridan
No match highlights that I know of. The only video I can find is the Daicos challenge he did on TAC Cup Future Stars
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XbcWthGv71Y
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In terms of Ruckman we have- Maric, Gus, Browne, Derickx and even Vickery. So just need to rookie one or two.
What does that even mean ????? :o
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it is so good to have you here oxx. i missed you.
may the prayers not effect you. go all in my friend
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Good exhumation, big Tone.
But if you were to brake that down even further, I think a strong-bodied inside mid should be the priority at 15.
As long as he can kick ;D
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Thats a given, David.
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Only my best friend calls me that, William. Get on topic
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Really think we should target genuine mids only in this draft. No more skinny wingman/flanker types. We have enough bits and pieces types like Conners, Dea, Edwards, Grigg, Helbig, Houli, King, MacDonald, Morris, Nahas, Newman, Webberley and White. And none of those can really go into the midfield and make a differnce.
Bit tough on Helbig BT. Not sure that he's had enough exposure yet to say what he is or isn't capable of and nothing to suggest he can't make it as a mid. And I wouldn't like to pigeon-hole Morris or Grigg just yet. But, having said that I agree with your opinion of targeting "genuine mids" - that's were our future and 'salvation' lies.
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Is that team too short? Geelong Scarlett. Longeran. Taylor. Mackie.
Why play batch as the 3rd tall when you can have astbury or post.
Them houli and or Newman to the middle.
Chb. Rance
fb. Grimes.
3rd. Astbury or Post
shut down back pocket. Morris.
Rebound. Newman. + batch
Might be more balance back 6 if one of the kids kick on.
Or Kelvin Moore. Inhope not mcgaune.
Really think we should target genuine mids only in this draft. No more skinny wingman/flanker types. We have enough bits and pieces types like Conners, Dea, Edwards, Grigg, Helbig, Houli, King, MacDonald, Morris, Nahas, Newman, Webberley and White. And none of those can really go into the midfield and make a differnce.
We have Cotch, Lids, Dusty, Foley and hopefully Conca that can be as good as any going around but after that it is made up of those bits and pieces types and Jackson and Tuck. In the perfect world we will never see Jackson ever again!!!
Our list seems to have enough KPP at present in Astbury, Gourdis (who i think will step up this year with a little more gametime), Griffiths, Grimes, McGuane, Miller, Moore, Post, Rance, Riewoldt and Vickery. Would rookie another one or two.
In terms of Ruckman we have- Maric, Gus, Browne, Derickx and even Vickery. So just need to rookie one or two.
My side for round 1 would look something like this
Batch(to play as the third tall) Grimes Morris(to play on small forward)
Newman Rance Houli
Nahas Foley Conca
Martin Griffiths Edwards/King after round 1
Vickery Riewoldt Pick 15(mid)
Maric Cotch Lids
Pick 26(mid) Tuck Grigg Conners
So rotating through the middle would be- Cotch, Lids, Foley then Martin, Pick 15, Tuck, Grigg, Conca, Pick 26 and even Newman.
The side is starting to have some real size and class. Still needs a few up gardes but definatelly getting there. :gotigers
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Morris. Grimes. Astbury/Post.
Newman. Rance. Batchelor.
Houli. Foley. Conca.
Martin. Griff. Nahas.
Vickery. Reiwoldt. #15
Maric. Deledio. Cotchin.
#26. Tuck. King. Grigg.
Out. Connors
Really think we should target genuine mids only in this draft. No more skinny wingman/flanker types. We have enough bits and pieces types like Conners, Dea, Edwards, Grigg, Helbig, Houli, King, MacDonald, Morris, Nahas, Newman, Webberley and White. And none of those can really go into the midfield and make a differnce.
We have Cotch, Lids, Dusty, Foley and hopefully Conca that can be as good as any going around but after that it is made up of those bits and pieces types and Jackson and Tuck. In the perfect world we will never see Jackson ever again!!!
Our list seems to have enough KPP at present in Astbury, Gourdis (who i think will step up this year with a little more gametime), Griffiths, Grimes, McGuane, Miller, Moore, Post, Rance, Riewoldt and Vickery. Would rookie another one or two.
In terms of Ruckman we have- Maric, Gus, Browne, Derickx and even Vickery. So just need to rookie one or two.
My side for round 1 would look something like this
Batch(to play as the third tall) Grimes Morris(to play on small forward)
Newman Rance Houli
Nahas Foley Conca
Martin Griffiths Edwards/King after round 1
Vickery Riewoldt Pick 15(mid)
Maric Cotch Lids
Pick 26(mid) Tuck Grigg Conners
So rotating through the middle would be- Cotch, Lids, Foley then Martin, Pick 15, Tuck, Grigg, Conca, Pick 26 and even Newman.
The side is starting to have some real size and class. Still needs a few up gardes but definatelly getting there. :gotigers
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In terms of Ruckman we have- Maric, Gus, Browne, Derickx and even Vickery. So just need to rookie one or two.
What does that even mean ????? :o
one or even two ruck rookies would be good.
Then you'd have browne. Derickx. And a another developing ruck. We'd be in a better postion tondelist Graham next year and leave vickery forward.
I think collingwood had 6 odd rucks so another would be good to round off list.
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Westhoff going means we one tall short.
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it is so good to have you here oxx. i missed you.
may the prayers not effect you. go all in my friend
Been on a Steely Dan tour.
Wonderful to see such camp delusion alive and strong amongst the ranks of mice and men.
Edit: fixed quote
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I know everyone has been talking mids mids mids, but If Sam Docherty can slip to 15 I'd take him in a heartbeat. I would groom him for Deledio's spot in the backline and thus freeing up Lids to play midfield or forward. He's an elite kick and he would provide plenty of dash off the backline.
Morris/Astbury Grimes Newman
Batch Rance Docherty
Would make for a really solid backline :thumbsup
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Why is docherty pigeon holed as a HBF. He seems to have the attributes to play as a mid?
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People always talk about freeing Deledio up to play midfield. If he was such a star in the middle then that's where he would be. We've already got others who can play off half back but the coaches seem to love Lids across half back.
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Is that team too short? Geelong Scarlett. Longeran. Taylor. Mackie.
Why play batch as the 3rd tall when you can have astbury or post.
Them houli and or Newman to the middle.
Chb. Rance
fb. Grimes.
3rd. Astbury or Post
shut down back pocket. Morris.
Rebound. Newman. + batch
Might be more balance back 6 if one of the kids kick on.
Or Kelvin Moore. Inhope not mcgaune.
Really think we should target genuine mids only in this draft. No more skinny wingman/flanker types. We have enough bits and pieces types like Conners, Dea, Edwards, Grigg, Helbig, Houli, King, MacDonald, Morris, Nahas, Newman, Webberley and White. And none of those can really go into the midfield and make a differnce.
We have Cotch, Lids, Dusty, Foley and hopefully Conca that can be as good as any going around but after that it is made up of those bits and pieces types and Jackson and Tuck. In the perfect world we will never see Jackson ever again!!!
Our list seems to have enough KPP at present in Astbury, Gourdis (who i think will step up this year with a little more gametime), Griffiths, Grimes, McGuane, Miller, Moore, Post, Rance, Riewoldt and Vickery. Would rookie another one or two.
In terms of Ruckman we have- Maric, Gus, Browne, Derickx and even Vickery. So just need to rookie one or two.
My side for round 1 would look something like this
Batch(to play as the third tall) Grimes Morris(to play on small forward)
Newman Rance Houli
Nahas Foley Conca
Martin Griffiths Edwards/King after round 1
Vickery Riewoldt Pick 15(mid)
Maric Cotch Lids
Pick 26(mid) Tuck Grigg Conners
So rotating through the middle would be- Cotch, Lids, Foley then Martin, Pick 15, Tuck, Grigg, Conca, Pick 26 and even Newman.
The side is starting to have some real size and class. Still needs a few up gardes but definatelly getting there. :gotigers
I wouldn't play Astbury or Post as the third tall because they are both average footballers and that's being nice. IMO both will struggle to get a game if we don't get many injuries. Both guys cannot defend to save themselves... Just my oppinion but happy to be proven wrong.
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In terms of Ruckman we have- Maric, Gus, Browne, Derickx and even Vickery. So just need to rookie one or two.
What does that even mean ????? :o
Sorry mate, means we should rookie another couple of young ruckmen and leave the rest on the list for another year to fight it out.
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Really think we should target genuine mids only in this draft. No more skinny wingman/flanker types. We have enough bits and pieces types like Conners, Dea, Edwards, Grigg, Helbig, Houli, King, MacDonald, Morris, Nahas, Newman, Webberley and White. And none of those can really go into the midfield and make a differnce.
Bit tough on Helbig BT. Not sure that he's had enough exposure yet to say what he is or isn't capable of and nothing to suggest he can't make it as a mid. And I wouldn't like to pigeon-hole Morris or Grigg just yet. But, having said that I agree with your opinion of targeting "genuine mids" - that's were our future and 'salvation' lies.
Yer agree on Helbig not having had enough exposure just yet but he just doesn't seem to have much more going for him than just being hard at it. Time will tell and would be wrapped to be wrong. Fingers crossed!
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Markworth sounds pretty good. Midfielder/forward. We need a classy small-mid sized forward and a midfielder. I reckon we should go for a ruckman too
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I know everyone has been talking mids mids mids, but If Sam Docherty can slip to 15 I'd take him in a heartbeat. I would groom him for Deledio's spot in the backline and thus freeing up Lids to play midfield or forward. He's an elite kick and he would provide plenty of dash off the backline.
Morris/Astbury Grimes Newman
Batch Rance Docherty
Would make for a really solid backline :thumbsup
Agree 100%, this guy would be a coup if if slipped down to 15... :thumbsup
I will be peeed if he goes at 14 though.. ;D
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Finally went and checked out Docherty's highlight real and the interview thingmybob. KEENE. Just what we're after :pray
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. Just what we're after :pray
What another back flanker?
this kid looks a good prospect but we desperately need quality inside mids. We have to replace Tuck and Jackson ASAP.
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. Just what we're after :pray
What another back flanker?
this kid looks a good prospect but we desperately need quality inside mids. We have to replace Tuck and Jackson ASAP.
Who says he has to spend his career at HB? Has the qualities of a mid or can free up other blokes to play mid.
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Who says he has to spend his career at HB? Has the qualities of a mid or can free up other blokes to play mid.
I take your point. But all the discussion about him suggests that he is a classy flanker/ outside midfielder. I just really think we need a genuine inside mid with a strong body and good skills that can play a bit outside too - Selwood style.
We have enough outside distributors now, Conca, Houli, Newman, Deledio.
The reason Tuck and Jackson still get a game is because we have no quality young ball-winners coming through.
Cotchin shoulders far too much of our contested game. We will run him into the ground by the time he is 27, at this rate.
i know Im sounding like a broken record, so i will shut up now. ;D
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when is draft day?
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it was today
you missed it flog
work the internet
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it was today
you missed it flog
work the internet
:lol :lol :lol
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when is draft day?
Nov 24th
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People always talk about freeing Deledio up to play midfield. If he was such a star in the middle then that's where he would be. We've already got others who can play off half back but the coaches seem to love Lids across half back.
why did Luke hodge play in the backline when hawks won flag?
I do not agree with your theory. Deledio Is able to play forward or mid and do it well. The reason he js not is bcause RFC don't have the luxury of playing him on the ball. Out backline is very very young and very poor. If it wasn't for deledio played in this role and replaced by A lesser player we'd have by raped slot more often.
IMO if deledio was playing for a Geelong or collingwood with a strong back 6 he'd run riot.
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Agree with Bents, if we had a strong back six.. Lid would put on his red rambo band and cut loose through the park
I believe its when and not if, he makes his way closer to the centre ;)
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raped slot
Excuse me? :huh
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People always talk about freeing Deledio up to play midfield. If he was such a star in the middle then that's where he would be. We've already got others who can play off half back but the coaches seem to love Lids across half back.
why did Luke hodge play in the backline when hawks won flag?
I do not agree with your theory. Deledio Is able to play forward or mid and do it well. The reason he js not is bcause RFC don't have the luxury of playing him on the ball. Out backline is very very young and very poor. If it wasn't for deledio played in this role and replaced by A lesser player we'd have by raped slot more often.
IMO if deledio was playing for a Geelong or collingwood with a strong back 6 he'd run riot.
How is this for a back six? Newman, Rance, Moore/Grimes/Morris as the FB line. Batch, Astbury, Houli at HB.
Deledio has played onball before when our backline was worse. He had some ripper games too...but at the same time he was never consistent for a WHOLE season. Might have won our B&F before but Dan Jackson nearly beat him :lol
I agree, he can play midfield and forward and he will do it well. But if he was such a star in either position then that is where he would be. Deledio isn't played down back for his defensive ability, he is there because he can rack up plenty of football and provide great drive from the backline (thats not to say he doesn't do anything down there without the ball in hand, he does get his fair share of spoils in and helps out the talls by going 3rd man up at some marking contests). His use of the ball on either side of the body is very good and that's valuable down back. That's why they love him there, IMO.
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Davey, I don't dispute that Lids has value down back but his ability to consistently kick 55m goals after 5 or 6 steps from a centre clearance is also a huge asset.
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FWIW, I prefer Lids in the midfield.
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Agree Davey as to why he is where he is, but like yourself would like to see him progress to mid
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As we've done in previous years, I've put together a OER draft resource thread for 2011 from various sources on the Draft Board for easy reference of each of the potential draftees this year. I'll add more to it as we get closer to the draft on November 24.
http://oneeyed-richmond.com/forum/index.php?topic=14390.0
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Richmond, Fremantle, the Western Bulldogs, North Melbourne and Essendon all pick after the Giants' last first rounder and are believed to be looking elsewhere, leaving Hayden Crozier available to teams in the early 20s, which seemed unfathomable not so long ago.
http://www.afl.com.au/news/newsarticle/tabid/208/newsid/125751/default.aspx
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What's the ulterior motive behind the article?
Who could possibly know which players all of those 6 teams have in mind at this early stage, let alone the draft day.
Does someone want to ensure Crozier is left alone for them, or conversely want to make sure he is gone early, to push someone else down the order?
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According to Greg Denham, 18 of the first 20 picks will come from Victoria.
1. Patton (GWS)
2. Coniglio (GWS) ... from WA
3. Tyson (GWS)
4. Buntine (GWS)
5. Longer (GWS)
6. Wingard (Port) .... from SA
The rest 7-20 will come from Vic.
http://www.theaustralian.com.au/news/sport/as-many-as-18-young-victorians-could-be-taken-in-the-top-20-selections/story-e6frg7mf-1226188148883
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Shifter Sheehan and Jason Phelan (who talks to the clubs and does the AFL website's phantom draft) in their draft preview has us selecting Taylor Adams at pick 15.
http://www.afl.com.au/Video/tabid/76/contentid/401789/invoke/Default.aspx (http://www.afl.com.au/Video/tabid/76/contentid/401789/invoke/Default.aspx)
or
http://ken-cdn220-is-1.se.bptvpd.ngcdn.telstra.com/pd_afl1/OnDemand/AFL/2011/Draft_Show_2m.mp4 (http://ken-cdn220-is-1.se.bptvpd.ngcdn.telstra.com/pd_afl1/OnDemand/AFL/2011/Draft_Show_2m.mp4)
1. GWS - Jonathan Patton
2. GWS - Steve Coniglio
3. GWS - Dom Tyson
4. GWS - Will Hoskin-Elliot
5. GWS - Billy Longer
6. Port - Chad Wingard
7. GWS - Matt Buntine
8. Bris - Toby Greene
9. GWS - Liam Sumner
10. GWS - skipped over
11. GWS - skipped over
12. Bris - Adam Tomlinson
13. GWS - Nick Haynes
14. GWS - skipped over
15. Rich - Taylor Adams - 30/3/93, 180cm, 81kg, Midfielder from Geelong Falcons.
16. Freo - Shane Kersten
17. Dogs - Michael Talia
18. North - Sam Docherty
My internet connection cut out at pick 18 and the AFL website resets back to the start when the video is reloaded :banghead. So if anyone can fill in the rest it'll be much appreciated.
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Heres a quick flick of him, courtesy OE's link :thumbsup
http://youtu.be/CDbf94xHXtY
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He plays a bit like a young Brent Harvey in that video clip but I'd still prefer us to go for a bigger body midfielder at pick 15.
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Certainly doesn't look small bodied.
(http://mm.afl.com.au/Portals/0/TaylorAdams316a22.jpg)
Adams is much more physical than Harvey too. I compare him to Kieran Jack but most say he's plays similar to Jimmy Bartel.
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Adams has been growing on me big time. Some of his work through traffic is dead set ripper. When I've been taking a look at the mid draftees I have been trying to imagine their compatibility with Cotchin and Martin. I reckon he'd fit right in and looks like he has some grunt too. Pinching him and Ellis if he slips through the first rounders to catch at 26 I'd be happy as Larry.
There are a couple others I really like such as Docherty but I just can no longer imagine a fit :( humbug
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He plays a bit like a young Brent Harvey in that video clip but I'd still prefer us to go for a bigger body midfielder at pick 15.
thought the same thing watching the clip
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The kid sure does back himself and has great awareness through traffic. Could be the inside mid we are after..
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I and someone else asked Brett Anderson from Inside Football who Richmond is interested in at pick 15 and he said Richmond have made it clear they want players who can kick the ball. Also need midfield help and KPD's. We'd love Docherty but he will be gone by pick 15. Adams, Kavanagh (would be a steal there), Greene (also a steal) would be on our radar. Maybe even Talia.
Docherty, Adams, Kavanagh and Greene are all mids. Talia is the only tall/key defender there.
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Yep Docherty is the one. Will he be there at 15??
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I've been keen on Docherty since day 1 but MT kept telling me that he is a receiver and we need an in and under type to take the load of Tucky & Cotch. So if We need an in and under, then Adams or Devon Smith would be my picks. In saying that, if Brad Mckenzie is still available at 26, I'd take him in a heartbeat. The only player rated better than him at his club was Chad Wingard. McKenzie may not play next year as he needs a bit of beefing up but mark my words, if this kid gets selected by an AFL club and he is given the opportunity to develop, he will be a gun!
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Here's Kevin 'Shifter' Sheehan's top 30 draftees this year:
Taylor Adams (Geelong Falcons)
Joshua Bootsma (South Fremantle)
Matthew Buntine (Dandenong Stingrays)
Stephen Coniglio (Swan Districts)
Hayden Crozier (Eastern Ranges)
Sam Docherty (Gippsland Power)
Brandon Ellis (Calder Cannons)
Todd Elton (Dandenong Stingrays)
Alex Forster (Norwood)
Toby Greene (Oakleigh Chargers)
Joel Hamling (Claremont)
Nick Haynes (Dandenong Stingrays)
Brad Hill (West Perth)
Will Hoskin-Elliott (Western Jets)
Elliott Kavanagh (Western Jets)
Shane Kersten (South Fremantle)
Billy Longer (Northern Knights)
Daniel Markworth (Calder Cannons)
Tom Mitchell (Claremont)
Jonathon Patton (Eastern Ranges)
Sebastian Ross (North Ballarat Rebels)
Tom Sheridan (Calder Cannons)
Clay Smith (Gippsland Power)
Devon Smith (Geelong Falcons)
Liam Sumner (Sandringham Dragons)
Michael Talia (Calder Cannons)
Adam Tomlinson (Oakleigh Chargers)
Dom Tyson (Oakleigh Chargers)
Chad Wingard (Sturt)
Elliott Yeo (East Fremantle)
http://www.adelaidenow.com.au/sport/afl/south-australia-fares-poorly-in-afl-draft/story-fn525un5-1226193131154
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An article on Mitchell Grigg saying GWS and GC aren't interested in him so he'll be around at pick 15....
Grigg - SA's MVP at this year's AFL under-18 Championships - was so impressive that 16 of the 18 AFL clubs lined up to interview him.
Only Greater Western Sydney - armed with 11 of the top 14 picks - and Gold Coast overlooked him.
Selected in this year's All-Australian under-18 team after averaging 24 disposals at 69 per cent efficiency at the championships, Grigg is tipped to be picked between selections 20 and 35 at the draft, although some mock drafts have him going as high as No. 15 to Richmond.
http://www.adelaidenow.com.au/sport/afl/mitch-grigg-quick-to-grasp-limitations/story-e6frenf3-1226189488299
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Does Sheehan base his top 30 on player ability or the types of players he thinks clubs will require? The reason why I say this is that IMO there are a few quality players that have been left off his list, like Grigg and then he selects a player like Crozier who is a real lightweight and very much a gamble.
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Does Sheehan base his top 30 on player ability or the types of players he thinks clubs will require? The reason why I say this is that IMO there are a few quality players that have been left off his list, like Grigg and then he selects a player like Crozier who is a real lightweight and very much a gamble.
I think Shifter bases it on kids he thinks will excite AFL recruiters and clubs. He seems to promote kids who have more that athletic "X-factor". He would also talk to recruiters about which kids have shot up lately in interest. Josh Bootsma is one so that's why he is listed in Shifter's top 30.
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The print version of the Herald-Sun has us linked to Sam Frost at pick 26
SAM FROST
Sandringham Dragons
Wesley College
AGE: 18
HEIGHT: 194cm
POSITION: Key defender
DRAFT RANGE: 20-40
IN THE MIX: Gold Coast (24), Richmond (26), Melbourne (36)
PLAYS LIKE: Sam Gilbert
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Would be a good pickup if we did, check his youtube footage
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Frost plays nothing like Sam Gilbert, That's a terrible comparison.
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Kavanagh established first-round credentials as an under-age player last year, but his lack of exposed form this season has led to some conjecture over just where he sits in the draft rankings now.
There are two schools of thought - either he'll go early as one of the Giants' 11 first-round picks or they'll pass and he'll slide down the order a bit as clubs with only one first-round pick won't be as willing to take a risk.
http://www.afl.com.au/news/newsarticle/tabid/208/newsid/125751/default.aspx
We have more than one first round pick with picks 15 and 26. Do we take the risk?
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We would be mad not to take him at 15 if he is there. Gun.
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Teenager Murray Newman is firming as one of West Coast's targets in the national draft...
http://au.news.yahoo.com/thewest/sport/a/-/sport/11664825/eagle-eye-on-young-swan-newman/
One less club out the way before our pick 26.
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Teenager Murray Newman is firming as one of West Coast's targets in the national draft...
http://au.news.yahoo.com/thewest/sport/a/-/sport/11664825/eagle-eye-on-young-swan-newman/
One less club out the way before our pick 26.
Or we may take him if they wait for 28 :lol
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Here's the AFL website's Draft Machine which has summaries of every possible draftee as well as running mock draft which you can do:
http://draftmachine.afl.com.au/
It has for Richmond (although we won't be using all these picks):
15. Todd Elton ....... 18 y.o., 197cm, 92kg, forward/ruck
26. Jack Crisp .......... 18 y.o., 190cm, 83kg, forward
55. Lachlan Dalgleish .. 18 y.o., 184cm, 74kg, midfield
73. Louis Egger .......... 18 y.o., 180cm, 76kg, defender
79. Tom Downie .......... 18 y.o., 203cm, 94kg, ruckman
91. Dylan Gabron-Uhe ... 18 y.o., 190cm, 76kg , defender
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I can't see us going for a KPP with our first pick, but if Elton is best available then so be it...
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Here's the AFL website's Draft Machine which has summaries of every possible draftee as well as running mock draft which you can do:
http://draftmachine.afl.com.au/
It has for Richmond (although we won't be using all these picks):
15. Todd Elton ....... 18 y.o., 197cm, 92kg, forward/ruck
26. Jack Crisp .......... 18 y.o., 190cm, 83kg, forward
55. Lachlan Dalgleish .. 18 y.o., 184cm, 74kg, midfield
73. Louis Egger .......... 18 y.o., 180cm, 76kg, defender
79. Tom Downie .......... 18 y.o., 203cm, 94kg, ruckman
91. Dylan Gabron-Uhe ... 18 y.o., 190cm, 76kg , defender
Docherty at 33??? Yeah right! I'd take him at 26 in a heartbeat.
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Willie Wheeler will get drafted, not sure rookie or national but probably rookie.
Good HP sauce.
:thumbsup
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Drafted by us?
Did Rhett Jordan tell you :shh
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We all knew it and OE the super sleuth will probably have it up in a jiffy anyway, but the draft order is finalised: http://www.afl.com.au/news/newsarticle/tabid/208/newsid/126171/default.aspx
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Willie Wheeler will get drafted, not sure rookie or national but probably rookie.
Good HP sauce.
:thumbsup
Isn't he a bit small though or is he up to it??
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Drafted by us?
Did Rhett Jordan tell you :shh
Rhett is a fine young man.
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Willie Wheeler will get drafted, not sure rookie or national but probably rookie.
Good HP sauce.
:thumbsup
Isn't he a bit small though or is he up to it??
He's the same size as Edwards.......
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Willie Wheeler will get drafted, not sure rookie or national but probably rookie.
Good HP sauce.
:thumbsup
Isn't he a bit small though or is he up to it??
He's the same size as Edwards.......
Do we need another player that size, maybe we should of kept Nason...or is this bloke better at it??
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Why keep blokes who aren't up to it?
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Brett Anderson from Inside Football:
"Wingard to Port looks to be a done deal with the GWS taking Patton, Coniglio, Tyson, Hoskin-Elliott, Buntine/Longer as the top 5."
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Willie Wheeler will get drafted, not sure rookie or national but probably rookie.
Good HP sauce.
:thumbsup
I have no inside knowledge but I think he will too '65. Showed too much promise at the lower level to be ignored in this year of slim pickings.
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It's official we'll have just 3 picks so presumably it'll be picks 15 and 26 on two kids and then McCarthy either at Pick 55 or in the PSD. Then guys like Contin and Wheeler will be picked up in the rookie draft.
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What your team needs
By Michael Rogers
Thursday, November 17, 2011
Source: BigPond Sport
Richmond
The Tigers need a key defender more than most, with Will Thursfield now retired and Luke McGuane out of favour. They have prospects in David Astbury and Matt Dea but neither is a lock. If they don't see the player they want at No.15, expect Richmond to bolster their midfield. They still lack depth outside their classy first-choice rotation.
Picks: 15, 26, 55
Dream pick: Matthew Buntine (Dandenong Stingrays)
Summaries for all clubs are here: http://www.bigpondsport.com/what-your-team-needs/tabid/91/newsid/80322/default.aspx
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The wish list
By Jason Phelan
Thu 17 Nov, 2011
Richmond: 15, 26, 55
The Tigers need to add another polished kick coming out of the back half and some medium to tall forward talent with their first picks at 15 and 26.
Gippsland Power defender Sam Docherty is one of the better kicks in the draft, shows great poise under pressure and his potential to develop into a midfielder makes him worthy of pick 15.
An option with their next pick may be WA's Joel Hamling, a 194cm forward who runs a 2.90-second 20m sprint and could ultimately allow Tyrone Vickery to spend more time in the ruck.
http://www.afl.com.au/news/newsarticle/tabid/208/newsid/126196/default.aspx
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mmm Hamling :burgereater
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The Tigers need a key defender more than most, with Will Thursfield now retired and Luke McGuane out of favour. They have prospects in David Astbury and Matt Dea ....
Matt Dea a key defender?? :huh
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A BF poster named Quigley has done a pretty full-on mock draft with detailed summaries of his top 50 draftees. He has Buntine slipping to us at pick 15.
http://www.bigfooty.com/forum/showthread.php?t=890556
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The Tigers need a key defender more than most, with Will Thursfield now retired and Luke McGuane out of favour. They have prospects in David Astbury and Matt Dea ....
Matt Dea a key defender?? :huh
Rance and Post don't exist it seems :huh
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An option with their next pick may be WA's Joel Hamling, a 194cm forward who runs a 2.90-second 20m sprint and could ultimately allow Tyrone Vickery to spend more time in the ruck.
Better!
Can even turn him into a defender.
Enough fricken midget-fielders already!
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The problem though Ox is our second tier mids are crap so we do need to recruit more classier mids. I agree they should be medium-sized mids (184-7cm) rather than more sub-6 foot lightweights who get easily brushed aside.
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Has the game really changed that much in 30 years in terms of what makes a good footballer?
our 1980 premiership side had 6 players 180cm and under.
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Has the game really changed that much in 30 years in terms of what makes a good footballer?
our 1980 premiership side had 6 players 180cm and under.
We won 4 flags from 1967-74 with a CHF who was the same size as Dusty Martin. Royce and Dusty both had/have a playing height/weight of 187cm/86kg. So I would say yes footy has changed in terms of body-size. In any case the 6 players off the top of my head in 1980 were KB, Flea, Raines, Rowlings, Wiley and Malthouse. A fair bit of difference in top quality in that group compared to Foley, Kingy, Nahas, Whitey and Webberley :yep.
I'm not saying al we can't have any sub-6 footers but IMO they need to have elite attributes (freakish speed and skill) and given the state of our list they are pocket/flanker types which are the last pieces of the puzzle. We still need build up a deep core group of quality midfielders behind Cotch and Dusty to become a side capable of not only making September but going all the way.
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We won 4 flags from 1967-74 with a CHF who was the same size as Dusty Martin. Royce and Dusty both had/have a playing height/weight of 187cm/86kg. So I would say yes footy has changed in terms of body-size. In any case the 6 players off the top of my head in 1980 were KB, Flea, Raines, Rowlings, Wiley and Malthouse. A fair bit of difference in top quality in that group compared to Foley, Kingy, Nahas, Whitey and Webberley :yep.
Thats enough to send us all into depression. How far we have fallen :'(
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Has the game really changed that much in 30 years in terms of what makes a good footballer?
our 1980 premiership side had 6 players 180cm and under.
We won 4 flags from 1967-74 with a CHF who was the same size as Dusty Martin. Royce and Dusty both had/have a playing height/weight of 187cm/86kg. So I would say yes footy has changed in terms of body-size. In any case the 6 players off the top of my head in 1980 were KB, Flea, Raines, Rowlings, Wiley and Malthouse. A fair bit of difference in top quality in that group compared to Foley, Kingy, Nahas, Whitey and Webberley :yep.
I'm not saying al we can't have any sub-6 footers but IMO they need to have elite attributes (freakish speed and skill) and given the state of our list they are pocket/flanker types which are the last pieces of the puzzle. We still need build up a deep core group of quality midfielders behind Cotch and Dusty to become a side capable of not only making September but going all the way.
fully agree about the quality issue, in that an average larger bodied player still has something to fall back on, his size.
I think there will always be a place for smaller players in the game as you need a mix of player types and we dont have any real quality when it come to that player type so i dont have a problem with trying to bring in more in an attempt to get that quality.
sometimes i just get the feeling that some people would just disregard players based solely on their size, yet all of those players you listed were good enough that they would still get a game today
actually the 6th player i was thinking of was freames (sp) so malthouse makes 7 ;D
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Adams (#15) and McKenzie (#26) to Richmond?
The SuperFooty Phantom Draft
by: Jay Clark and Sam Landsberger
From: Herald Sun
November 19, 2011
1 GWS - Jon Patton
2 GWS - Stephen Coniglio
3 GWS - Dom Tyson
4 GWS - Matthew Buntine
5 GWS - Will Hoskin-Elliot
6 Port Adelaide - Chad Wingard
7 GWS - Adam Tomlinson
8 Brisbane - Devon Smith
9 GWS - Liam Sumner
10 GWS - Billy Longer
11 GWS - Toby Greene
12 Brisbane - Sam Docherty
13 GWS - Nick Haynes
14 GWS - Daniel Markworth
15 Richmond
Taylor Adams
HEIGHT: 181cm
CLUB: Geelong Falcons
Can't have enough blue-chip inside midfielders. Outstanding leader. Could play Round 1.
16 Fremantle - Brandon Ellis
17 W.Bulldogs - Clay Smith
18 North Melb - Hayden Crozier
19 Essendon - Elliott Kavanagh
20 Fremantle - Shane Kersten
21 Sydney - Tom Mitchell
22 Carlton - Tom Sheridan
23 West Coast - Michael Talia
24 Gold Coast - Jordan Murdoch
25 St Kilda - Todd Elton
26 Richmond
Brad McKenzie
HEIGHT: 188cm
CLUB: Sturt, SA
Powerful forward flanker meets Tigers' kicking demands. Left foot is a weapon. Strong mark.
27 Adelaide - Alex Forster
28 West Coast - Jackson Merrett
29 Fremantle - Andrew Boseley
30 Brisbane - Jackson Paine
http://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/afl/the-superfooty-phantom-draft/story-e6frf9jf-1226199780725
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Would prefer to take a KPP at 26 if we have gone small at 15. Elton at 26 would be good.
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i'd tizz a small ocean if we landed adams and mckenzie
wouldn't mind having a look at jarrod harding from gws with a late pick
http://www.afl.com.au/news/newsarticle/tabid/208/newsid/102088/default.aspx
didn't re-sign
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15 Richmond
Taylor Adams
HEIGHT: 181cm
CLUB: Geelong Falcons
Can't have enough blue-chip inside midfielders. Outstanding leader. Could play Round 1.
Now imagine that, bye bye jackson :clapping
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if you cant have enough blue chip midfielders, why would you get rid of Jackson...?
:outtahere
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if you cant have enough blue chip midfielders, why would you get rid of Jackson...?
:outtahere
:lol
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Al did you mean blue chip or "potato"chip?? as in spud?? :huh :whistle
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(http://shop.countdown.co.nz/Content/ProductImages/big/9310081401667.jpg)
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I still go for Kavanagh/Markworth at 15 and hope for Elton/Frost at 26 and O'Hanlon at 55. That would be a top draft for us IMHO.
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re kavanagh, big risk on someone who has a history of hamstring problems before they get into an afl environment.
there would have to be a big reward if it all went well, even then do you risk your first of two?
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I read somewhere that the first time Kavanagh did his hammy he didn't seek proper treatment and just tried to rest the leg and then when he came back to play he did it again. Since then he's followed the doctors advice and was back playing again before the end of the season.
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how bad did he do it the second time?
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ClarkyHeraldSun Jay Clark twitter:
"grigg still there at 26. Kav a big chance at 15. Defn a riskier pick though"
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how bad did he do it the second time?
Here's the full article al:
http://www.theage.com.au/afl/afl-news/ready-for-redemption-after-injury-setback-20111114-1nflz.html#ixzz1e7zw14CE
Here's some snippets:
It was late last season that Kavanagh dived at a player to tackle him and felt his hamstring clutch, down near his knee. He looked after it, let it repair and didn't think too much about it. But when it happened again during the pre-season, higher up his leg this time, he started to wonder what was going on ...
His head filled with opinions, advice and plans-of-action, Kavanagh listened to what Michael Makdissi, the AIS doctor, told him. He stopped playing, stopped training and got his head around the thought that he wasn't going to start again for several months....
When he did get to play again, late in June, Kavanagh started with a half for his school side, then moved back to the Jets and built his game time back up all over again. He played nine or 10 games but missed the TAC Cup finals after corking a thigh, and in only one or two games did he feel like himself again. ''It was a bit of a relief,'' he said, ''when things started working. But it took a while to feel like that.''
Kavanagh was also conscious of his body, taking a while to trust it again. ''I think I was too cautious at times,'' he said. ''I had to try and stop that, to clear my mind, but there were times I'd half feel my hamstring pull and then realise it was fine, it was nothing. It gives you a bit of a fright and I felt like I got used to that, but it was hard to impact the game like I wanted to.
''I've had a few recruiters say I lost form coming back, but I found it hard to impose myself. I was focusing on what I couldn't do, and it was better when I just started to feel happy to be out there playing again.''
What happens from here? Kavanagh won't slide too far next week - he shouldn't get into the 20s - and he thinks about his hamstring in a scientific way now. He's done everything he was supposed to do, he's played on it, and it shouldn't cause any more problems. That said, he's as curious as anyone to find out how it handles the next step.
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ClarkyHeraldSun Jay Clark twitter:
"grigg still there at 26. Kav a big chance at 15. Defn a riskier pick though"
Don't think we will take the punt personally as much as i'd like us to. I think Kangas/Bombers will get him.
I also can't see Adams sliding to us unfortunately. Just too good a talent as well as high character/leadership ability.
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cheers MT
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i'd tizz a small ocean if we landed adams and mckenzie
wouldn't mind having a look at jarrod harding from gws with a late pick
http://www.afl.com.au/news/newsarticle/tabid/208/newsid/102088/default.aspx
didn't re-sign
k
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The problem though Ox is our second tier mids are crap so we do need to recruit more classier mids. I agree they should be medium-sized mids (184-7cm) rather than more sub-6 foot lightweights who get easily brushed aside.
Seems to me that OX is quite happy to have Foley continue in the midfield. Apparently no qualms with Grigg, Jackson or Tucky getting around either.
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cheers MT
Here's another article on Kavanagh in today's Herald-Sun al.
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Unless Richmond intervenes at 15, or North Melbourne at 17, for the second year in a row, the draft may deliver Essendon a surprise first-round gift, like Heppell last year.
While Kavanagh's hamstring problems are the key concern, some have likened the 187cm ball-carrier's style to Chris Judd, largely for his versatility, endurance and speed.
Kavanagh, 18, said he tried to be flexible through the midfield.
"I can play outside because I've played outside during my junior career playing on a wing," he said. "But last year I got introduced into the midfield set-up where I won a lot of my own ball. I think I do OK in both aspects of the game."
Noted for his decision-making and skill, Kavanagh is an offensive weapon because of his ability to burst through congestion.
He is clean, if not calm as well, ranking first in the draft camp handball test, with a score of 28 out 30.
For a long time last year, Kavanagh loomed as a top-five pick.
But he tore his left hamstring twice, first in August 2010 and in February this year, which would have scared some clubs off.
Even though his form was more subdued this season, Kavanagh still managed about 10 games and won a premiership with Penleigh and Essendon Grammar School.
Since then clubs have done everything to find out about Kavanagh's hamstring.
He told them the first injury was a grade two tear and that doctors had taken a cautious approach to get him right.
The second tear was in a different spot, sounding alarms bells for some recruiters.
He was ruled out of the AIS games and the national championships, making the ball-winner one of the draft pool's biggest quandaries.
But after working hard and gently easing back into the fray, Kavanagh hoped those setbacks were all behind him.
"They have taken a massively conservative approach and built up the hamstring to withstand big workloads," he said.
"So hopefully that has done its work and I can get back out there in the years to come and not have any problems."
http://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/afl/elliott-kavanagh-could-be-another-surprise-for-essendon/story-fnau1fjg-1226200566836
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Emma Quayle saying we're not interested in Kavanagh:
emmasq twitter: "no I reckon north or essendon for Kavanagh. Tigers won't pick him"
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The league newcomers will grab the lion's share of the first-round talent, but their concentration of early picks — 11 of the first 14 — means GWS could begin drafting for needs earlier than expected. The prospect of talented midfielders being overlooked for a key backman, for instance, leaves the likes of Richmond, Fremantle, North Melbourne, St Kilda and Essendon well placed to snare some much-needed on-ball class. Silky wingman Elliott Kavanagh, spring-heeled flanker Hayden Crozier and Brad McKenzie's deadly boot are just some of the midfield riches that could still be available in the teens.
http://www.bigpondsport.com/will-anyone-punt-on-fev/tabid/91/newsid/80511/default.aspx
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Why aren't we interested in this kid?
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Throwing everyone off the scent?
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Brett Anderson from Inside Football:
"Had Adams at the Tiges, but now looks like he will be gone. Crozier is a good chance, as is Docherty and Kersten."
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Brett Anderson from Inside Football:
"Had Adams at the Tiges, but now looks like he will be gone. Crozier is a good chance, as is Docherty and Kersten."
Who does Brett Anderson support? Obviously not the Tigers.
Docherty YES!!
Crozier????...NO!! One Speccie does not maketh a star. WP talks about tea towels, this kid is a paper towel and too much of a gamble. I'd Take Devon Smith or Brad McKenzie before Crozier.
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Personally think we will end up with Docherty or Mackenzie if Adams is goneski.
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Crozier????...NO!! One Speccie does not maketh a star. WP talks about tea towels, this kid is a paper towel and too much of a gamble.
A wet paper towel or a dry one tiga ;D
Dry paper towels are slightly stronger :thumbsup
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The Cotch on his blog footytragic.com has done a detailed phantom draft....
http://www.footytragic.com/blog/2011-phantom-draft/kristians-2011-afl-phantom-draft/
Here's his picks for Richmond:
PICK 15 (RICHMOND) – ELLIOT KAVANAGH
Height: 187cm, Weight: 78kg, DOB: 19/05/1993
Recruited from: Western Jets
The Tigers need another class midfielder to compliment Dustin Martin and Trent Cotchin, and I don’t think they’ll pass up the opportunity to draft one of the most talented players in this crop in Elliot Kavanagh. Personally, I think this is a slide. On pure talent, I rate Kavanagh in the top five, and I think if it wasn’t for his injury interrupted season, he’d be drafted around there. You have to dig up games from 2010 to find Kavanagh’s best form, but there was a reason everyone in the industry rated him highly. Kavanagh possesses great speed, awareness and skills, and if his hamstring injuries don’t debilitate him, he’ll turn out to be a very good AFL player.
PICK 26 (RICHMOND) – MARLEY WILLIAMS
Height: 181cm, Weight: 85kg, DOB: 22/07/1993
Recruited from: Claremont Football Club
The Tigers need a skilful half-forward/wingman. Williams fills this hole and he is another one of my favourites from the draft. Williams has a lethal left foot roost, is big bodied, is extremely quick and has a bit of the ‘Jake Kings’ about him. He’s definitely ready to play a role up forward in round one and he could have a serious impact. The thing I love about him is that he is fierce and takes no crap. He is ultra competitive and I think this is a trait Damien Hardwick would love. Don’t be surprised if the Tigers go for Marley on Thursday.
PICK 55 (RICHMOND) – ADDAM MARIC
Height: 176cm, Weight: 77kg, DOB: 18/04/1990
Recruited from: Melbourne Demons
I think the Tigers will use this pick, and then make another list change in order to obtain a Pre-Season Draft pick to secure John McCarthy. Maric adds to the depth the Tigers are trying to build, and a second club is most likely what he needs to make the most of his AFL career. He has skills to burn, but he lacked application at the Demons. He can play as an outside midfielder, and that’s what the Tigers need. I have a feeling this pick won’t be too popular with the Tiger fans.
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lol.... Marley Williams = Troy Taylor the 2nd :help we wouldn't dare take the risk!
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Pass on Addam Maric. Too small and hasn't shown anything at Melbourne to suggest he'll be a better option than say Nahas and Kingy.
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at least you have a few days to come to terms with it MT ;D
In all seriousness, if he actually has ability and his problem was workrate then that is something an individual can turn around.
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I'm going to the draft on Thursday night and I can tell you that if we pick Williams and Maric I will not be happy!! :banghead
I may be forced to make my feelings felt with a few choice words from the stalls. :chuck
Kavanagh is acceptable but certainly not my first choice at 15 by any means. Personally I think this guy is way off the mark and like all other phantom drafts they are pure speculation.
I do get the feeling that our very own phantom draft may pick a few winners this year.
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OK so has anyone actually watched Marley Williams play or is it because he's just not that popular on the forums?
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OK so has anyone actually watched Marley Williams play or is it because he's just not that popular on the forums?
I've watched him and my reason for not wanting him is based on the fact that he is a short, run and bomb type flanker/mid. We've had too many of these types of players in the past and they have done us no favours. We need scalpel precision type flankers who can deliver accurately lace out into the forward 50 ala Brad McKenzie. I'm not saying the kid can't play, He can, and has a nice solid build and good pace but not good enough for our first two picks. I'd consider him at 55 though.
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He's one of the best kicks in the draft, but anyway.
Get to know Shane Kersten guys, if he falls to us.
Vickery, Riewoldt, Kersten already has me so excited.
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I actually like the thoughts of Elton coming to the Tigers, if he was there at Pick 26 that would be fantastic.
First choice at 15 has to be either Adams, Docherty or Mackenzie.
That is based on what I have seen, not on forum speculation. ;)
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He's one of the best kicks in the draft, but anyway.
Get to know Shane Kersten guys, if he falls to us.
Vickery, Riewoldt, Kersten already has me so excited.
He may be a powerful long kick but that does not always mean an elite kick. Awareness and timing are far more important than distance. Just have a look at how effortlessly McKenzie delivers into the F50. Its like poetry in motion or how docherty delivers to advantage from the back flank. These guys have elite foot skills.
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McKenzie might be a nice kick, but so is Mitch Farmer. McKenzie is very slow and I don't think he'll make it at AFL level. So much group think going on at the moment and way too much love for McKenzie.
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Get to know Shane Kersten guys, if he falls to us.
I've been seeing his name pop up quite a bit in the last few days.
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So much group think going on at the moment
it's as good as your opinions :thumbsup
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I'd like to see an 100m sprint between Gus and McKenzie.
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I'd like to see an 100m sprint between Gus and McKenzie.
McKenzie actually finished equal 10th in the 20m sprint . . . he is deceptively quick, much like Cotchin. :thumbsup
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I actually like the thoughts of Elton coming to the Tigers, if he was there at Pick 26 that would be fantastic.
First choice at 15 has to be either Adams, Docherty or Mackenzie.
That is based on what I have seen, not on forum speculation. ;)
Add Mitch Grigg here as well, looks great.
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I'd like to see an 100m sprint between Gus and McKenzie.
McKenzie actually finished equal 10th in the 20m sprint . . . he is deceptively quick, much like Cotchin. :thumbsup
Top 10 in the agility test too, purpose of which is to test speed and quickness amongst other KPIs
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beat me to it Gerks and JVT.
Cotch, I think you might need to reconsider your "slow" tag of McKenzie. Too much evidence to suggest he is not slow at all.
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Jye Bolton from Collingwood has dropped off the face of the earth, weren't we interested in this kid? There was talk we'd got him to walk. Pick 55? Rookie pick?
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Jye Bolton from Collingwood has dropped off the face of the earth, weren't we interested in this kid? There was talk we'd got him to walk. Pick 55? Rookie pick?
Think Melbourne were the ones to make him walk while we were also keen. He is training with them i think.
beat me to it Gerks and JVT.
Cotch, I think you might need to reconsider your "slow" tag of McKenzie. Too much evidence to suggest he is not slow at all.
I think it's that he looks slow because of his lanky legs. I don't think he came top 10 in the sprint though. It was just the agility. On another note besides his elite kicking he has that agility in close as well as very good hands in the contest so can play inside when he puts size on. Is also a very good mark for a midfielder.
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Jye Bolton from Collingwood has dropped off the face of the earth, weren't we interested in this kid? There was talk we'd got him to walk. Pick 55? Rookie pick?
Think Melbourne were the ones to make him walk while we were also keen. He is training with them i think.
Ahh. Cheers. Must have been the Neeld links that got him there. Gee it would be nice to pinch him from under them. Inbred pricks.
On another note besides his elite kicking he has that agility in close as well as very good hands in the contest so can play inside when he puts size on. Is also a very good mark for a midfielder.
Can also kick goals from outside 50 :thumbsup
He likens himself to Heppell
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This is why I love the draft. So many conflicting opinions.
For what it's worth, in my Phantom Draft, I have McKenzie in the 40's.
Reasons why he slid:
- tested extremely poorly for endurance.
- he doesn't find the footy a whole lot for someone who can use it well.
- this is because he doesn't push himself, doesn't run to the right spots, and of course, he isn't a great runner.
- I don't think he'll play midfield long term because I don't think he's quick enough in the mind or by foot.
- reminds me too much of David Myers.
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AFL draft could be shortest ever
By Kim Hagdorn
SportsNewsFirst
22 November 2011
With no club exercising rights to use precious priority compensation picks at Thursday’s draft in Sydney, speculation is rising that as few as some 60 selections will be made.
Power clubs Collingwood and Carlton, as well as Hawthorn, West Coast and Richmond are expected to take only two new draftees on Thursday.
Anticipated clubs draft numbers:
Adelaide has 6 picks, expected to use only 4
Brisbane has 5 (4)
Carlton 3 (2)
Collingwood 3 (2)
Essendon 4 (3)
Fremantle 7 (5)
Geelong 6 (4)
Gold Coast 4 (1)
GWS 20 (12)
Hawthorn 4 (2)
Melbourne 3 (3)
North Melbourne 4 (2)
Port Adelaide 4 (2)
Richmond 3 (2)
St Kilda 7 (6)
Sydney 4 (2)
West Coast 3 (2)
Western Bulldogs 6 (4)
http://www.sportsnewsfirst.com.au/articles/2011/11/22/afl-draft-could-be-shortest-ever/
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This is why I love the draft. So many conflicting opinions.
For what it's worth, in my Phantom Draft, I have McKenzie in the 40's.
Reasons why he slid:
- tested extremely poorly for endurance.
- he doesn't find the footy a whole lot for someone who can use it well.
- this is because he doesn't push himself, doesn't run to the right spots, and of course, he isn't a great runner.
- I don't think he'll play midfield long term because I don't think he's quick enough in the mind or by foot.
- reminds me too much of David Myers.
And the reasons many recruiters think he'll go top 25:
elite agility
excellent decision making, creativity, brings teammates into the game
clean hands
super left boot, extremely accurate over 60m
runs to the right spots
puts his head over it, tackles
can play Mid, HB or HF (kicked 8 in a game last year)
the only real knocks i can find on him is endurance and he's a bit lightweight for his height ;D
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McKenzie might be a nice kick, but so is Mitch Farmer. McKenzie is very slow and I don't think he'll make it at AFL level. So much group think going on at the moment and way too much love for McKenzie.
agree with cotch. mckenzie is slow.
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This is why I love the draft. So many conflicting opinions.
For what it's worth, in my Phantom Draft, I have McKenzie in the 40's.
Reasons why he slid:
- tested extremely poorly for endurance.
- he doesn't find the footy a whole lot for someone who can use it well.
- this is because he doesn't push himself, doesn't run to the right spots, and of course, he isn't a great runner.
- I don't think he'll play midfield long term because I don't think he's quick enough in the mind or by foot.
- reminds me too much of David Myers.
And the reasons many recruiters think he'll go top 25:
elite agility
excellent decision making, creativity, brings teammates into the game
clean hands
super left boot, extremely accurate over 60m
runs to the right spots
puts his head over it, tackles
can play Mid, HB or HF (kicked 8 in a game last year)
the only real knocks i can find on him is endurance and he's a bit lightweight for his height ;D
Also a hard-worker. So his endurance will get there and he will get more ball.
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Also a hard-worker. So his endurance will get there and he will get more ball.
Yep. Just looks like he needs a couple of pre-seasons to be a really valuable player at AFL level with a bit more strength and stamina.
Having said that would prefer he slid to us at 26.
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He's one of the best kicks in the draft, but anyway.
Get to know Shane Kersten guys, if he falls to us.
Vickery, Riewoldt, Kersten already has me so excited.
Dont like the fact that he is around 190cm and IMHO would struggle to play anything in the midfield. From what I understand hes a mark and kick type player. I'd rather we take a chance on a Markworth. Markworth has a 2nd gear shows real pace and at around 189cm/190cm could do a similar role but also help in the middle.
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Here's vision of Kersten:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lwg8_zuZKrY
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FVSfv_LNpKo
Some compare him to the Eagles' Jack Darling.
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Here's vision of Kersten:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lwg8_zuZKrY
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FVSfv_LNpKo
Some compare him to the Eagles' Jack Darling.
Considering we wanted Darling last year there may be some truth to it. Then just midfielders afterwards.
Also a hard-worker. So his endurance will get there and he will get more ball.
Yep. Just looks like he needs a couple of pre-seasons to be a really valuable player at AFL level with a bit more strength and stamina.
Having said that would prefer he slid to us at 26.
Agree. Think he is more a 20-30 prospect so fingers crossed.
Still like the predictions of us getting Docherty and McKenzie though.
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Looks to kick some real grubbers wheeling onto that right boot . . .
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Pick 15 out of Docherty and Ellis according to Emma Quayle.
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Tell you what, that Talia looks like a future champ, big bodied already!!!!! This is the player we need to go for, big bodied now, instead of will develop in 4 years.
Key defender.....all Australian.....
http://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/afl/defender-michael-talia-hopes-next-stop-is-geelong/story-fnau1fjg-1226201729376
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Talia has all the skills of a turd burglar
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Talia has all the skills of a turd burglar
Kicks it like a little auskicker. Throws the ball up waits for it come back down then kicks it.
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But is Kersten the type of player we need as a top priority? If it was a deep draft and we had 5 picks, I'd say go for it but what we really need is either a solid inside mid or a flanker/mid type with elite foot skills.
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Tell you what, that Talia looks like a future champ, big bodied already!!!!! This is the player we need to go for, big bodied now, instead of will develop in 4 years.
Key defender.....all Australian.....
http://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/afl/defender-michael-talia-hopes-next-stop-is-geelong/story-fnau1fjg-1226201729376
Most kids at Talia's height can put on bulk . . . they need to have the skills which is what Talia is missing IMO.
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But is Kersten the type of player we need as a top priority? If it was a deep draft and we had 5 picks, I'd say go for it but what we really need is either a solid inside mid or a flanker/mid type with elite foot skills.
Ditto these thoughts . . . Kersten doesn't appeal to me at all, no way near as clean as Darling.
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From twitter:
"AFL draft update: 1,585 nominations for less than 70 selections... Lots of disappointed 17-year-olds to follow AFL draft day"
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Just saw this on twitter as well:
KristianPisano Kristian Pisano
"@emmasq you say Kersten won't go to Richmond. Is this because he won't be available or because you think Richmond aren't interested?"
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I'm not sure about Elton.
That from another planet TV show was a shocker.
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From twitter:
"AFL draft update: 1,585 nominations for less than 70 selections... Lots of disappointed 17-year-olds to follow AFL draft day"
Life's tough. Harden up.
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Giant leftovers after top 11 picks
by: Mark Stevens and Jay Clark
From: Herald Sun
November 23, 2011 11:30PM
WITH 11 of the first 14 picks in the AFL national draft, all eyes will be on GWS. But then the real draft battle begins.
RICHMOND
PICKS 15, 26, 55
WHAT IT NEEDS
Finally the Tigers have a balanced list, having recruited a host of key talls and bolstered their midfield stocks. Damien Hardwick loves contested-ball machines, but do they need more outside run to complement Dustin Martin, Trent Cotchin and co? Finally the Tigers have a solid track record at the recruiting table, so recruiting truism - "best available" - actually fits this time.
WHAT IT MIGHT GET
Having already taken small defender Steve Morris and ruckman Ivan Maric in the trade period, the Tigers have picks 15, 26 and 55 left. Given GWS needs to secure some talls with its early picks, the Tigers are likely to go for the best remaining midfielder. Collingwood's John McCarthy is a lock in the pre-season draft.
RECYCLING OPPORTUNITIES
Unlikely until the pre-season draft.
LATE MAIL
Rubbing their hands together at the prospect of securing Gippsland Power defender Sam Docherty, the most potent right-foot kick in the draft.
http://www.adelaidenow.com.au/sport/afl/giant-leftovers-after-top-11-pioks/story-e6freck3-1226204222219
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Biggest question I have regarding tonight's draft is
After his stuff up at the All Australian team awards......
Will Stephen Silvagni get the right names .....
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Biggest question I have regarding tonight's draft is
After his stuff up at the All Australian team awards......
Will Stephen Silvagni get the right names .....
WP, Isn't that why they have numbers? But then again he's probably more inclined to stuff those up. :lol He comes across as a bit of a slow burner does old Steve.
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WP, Isn't that why they have numbers? But then again he's probably more inclined to stuff those up. :lol He comes across as a bit of a slow burner does old Steve.
yes tiga - numbers & names - you aren't allowed to get either wrong our you forfeit the pick....
Make my day Steve and stuff 'em up :pray ;D
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2nd biggest question of the draft.................
Will our own tiga kidnap Francis Jackson & CCameron minutes before draft announce on Foxtel that he is their replacement to ensure the Tiges pick up the players tiga named in OER's Phantom draft ?
;D :eyebrow
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2nd biggest question of the draft.................
Will our own tiga kidnap Francis Jackson & CCameron minutes before draft announce on Foxtel that he is their replacement to ensure the Tiges pick up the players tiga named in OER's Phantom draft ?
;D :eyebrow
:shh :shh :shh
WP, I'm actually going to be wearing some GWS gear and I'm going to kidnap Silvagni, take his place and go "Selection #1....Pass", "Selection #2....Pass", "Selection #3....Pass", "Selection #4....Pass", "Selection #5....Pass" and let nature take its course. ;D
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:shh :shh :shh
WP, I'm actually going to be wearing some GWS gear and I'm going to kidnap Silvagni, take his place and go "Selection #1....Pass", "Selection #2....Pass", "Selection #3....Pass", "Selection #4....Pass", "Selection #5....Pass" and let nature take its course. ;D
if that's the case II'd be hoping you say:
Pick 1: Mitch Farmer
Pick 2: Brendan Fevola
Pick 3: Troy Taylor
Etc etc
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:shh :shh :shh
WP, I'm actually going to be wearing some GWS gear and I'm going to kidnap Silvagni, take his place and go "Selection #1....Pass", "Selection #2....Pass", "Selection #3....Pass", "Selection #4....Pass", "Selection #5....Pass" and let nature take its course. ;D
if that's the case II'd be hoping you say:
Pick 1: Mitch Farmer
Pick 2: Brendan Fevola
Pick 3: Troy Taylor
Etc etc
I'm deceitful, not cruel! ;D
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I'm deceitful, not cruel! ;D
you can be both you know :thumbsup
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AFL_JasonPhelan Jason Phelan twitter:
"If they [Richmond] have that choice I think they go with Docherty ahead of Adams then Ellis. Would be happy with either though."
Francis Leech just tweeted that he thinks we'll pick up Fevola at pick 70 :huh even though we don't have pick 70 :wallywink
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Ox reckons we will pickup fev
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Nah
I reckon the Doggies will pick up Fev
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Wasn't sure how we'd go with Ellis with Batchelor looking like he'll get plenty of game time, Houli, Morris in the mix now, etc, but after watching his draft interview thingy again I can see why
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pJrQTy2bpHI
definitely has his head screwed on and attitude is A+. The big key was where he said it was the Cannons that made him a defender and he has played forward and mid. Big body and sounds like he has some good fitness... can see him being groomed to be a stocky inside juggernaut.
While the Jews are waiting for the one they call the Messiah, at Tigerland we are reading the tea leaves, looking at the signs for the one Riewoldt calls 'Crumpet.'
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Well I'm here . Not a bad crowd. Dwayne Russell chirping on in the hall of champions. Somehow I don't get the connection
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Few people on facebook wanting Fev.
Thought it was worth telling for a good laugh
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Ex hawk and roo Nathan Thompson across from me looking decidedly Movember.
Doors open in 20 min
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Few people on facebook wanting Fev.
Thought it was worth telling for a good laugh
Gotta love reading all the knobs that reply to the RFC Facebook stuff. Sometimes it's quite embarrassing what many have to say. Though every now and then I see a "go all in" and it makes me all warm and fuzzy inside.
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They talked about fev up here and Luffy called him fat lol
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Everyone's got an iPhone up here so excuse any delays due to data congestion . At this moment trying to hack into cc's iPad lol
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Troy Luff :cheers :lol
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I didn't know there were so many Andy D clones out there
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Well I'm here .
If we hear "You idiots!" in the background if a dud is selected at pick 15 we'll know who it is ;D.
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Well I'm here .
If we hear "You idiots!" in the background if a dud is selected at pick 15 we'll know who it is ;D.
Dont worry if we pick up the likes of Ellis and Kersten the dud calls will be many and numerous. ;D
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lol....He already has hair like CC :lol :lol
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Dont worry if we pick up the likes of Ellis and Kersten the dud calls will be many and numerous. ;D
Plug the Microwave in 10F ;D ;D
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I'm in boys looking decidedly nervous
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I'm always nervous about us picking up flankers/small defenders as if they fail in their position then it's hard to play them anywhere else. Whereas if you select a genuine midfielder/onballer you can always push them out to the flanks if they don't end up a A-grade mid.
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All the top hopefuls have just walked in. Patton is a monster
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LOL Ramps. Draft night is always fun with all us draft experts on OER ;D
I'm in boys looking decidedly nervous
tiga, as you walked past CC and FJ did you remind them not to stuff tonight up :lol.
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Well I'm here .
If we hear "You idiots!" in the background if a dud is selected at pick 15 we'll know who it is ;D.
Dont worry if we pick up the likes of Ellis and Kersten the dud calls will be many and numerous. ;D
Don't worry my I'm as close to our table as you can get and I have rotten tomatoes on standby
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LOL Ramps. Draft night is always fun with all us draft experts on OER ;D
I'm in boys looking decidedly nervous
tiga, as you walked past CC and FJ did you remind them not to stuff tonight up :lol.
Mt sign language works wonders . Short of holding up a pigs head i think He got the message
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Don't worry my I'm as close to our table as you can get and I have rotten tomatoes on standby
:rollin
tiga, can you see which kids are there for the top 10 presentation? It might give a clue who may still be around near pick 15.
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Unfortunately MT they are out of sight from me
Sumner at 10
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Tomlinson 9
Longer 8
Haynes 7
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Longer to Brisbane at 8 is a spanner in the works IMO.
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No surprises in the top 10 yet although GWS overlooking Longer is a bit of a surprise.
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Holy crap Haynes at 7
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Longer to Brisbane at 8 is a spanner in the works IMO.
who for and how?
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Coniglio and Patton will be the top 2. So all the names that we hoped/expected that could be around at pick 15 are still available.
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Listening on SEN haven't really followed all the draft talk so Im just going of Emma's first round from the age today.
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Haynes at 7 is good for us
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Longer to Brisbane at 8 is a spanner in the works IMO.
Brisbane take the best Ruck. That's a big win for them
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Top 10:
1. GWS - Jonathan Patton
2. GWS - Stephen Coniglio
3. GWS - Dom Tyson
4. GWS - William Hoskin-Elliot
5. GWS - Matthew Buntine
6. Port - Chad Wingard
7. GWS - Nick Haynes
8. Bris - Billy Longer
9. GWS - Adam Tomlinson
10. GWS - Liam Sumner
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Greene not in top 10? Surely won't last til 15? :pray
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Longer to Brisbane at 8 is a spanner in the works IMO.
who for and how?
I think dwaino is thinking that Brisbane will now go for a midfielder at pick 12 (ie. one that we may want at pick 15).
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Longer to Brisbane at 8 is a spanner in the works IMO.
Brisbane take the best Ruck. That's a big win for them
Yeah it is. But was really convinced GWS would grab him or Port sweating on him slipping a few spots back to their second pick. If Brisbane are still after a KPP then another mid is going to pass to the keeper. :pray
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Longer to Brisbane at 8 is a spanner in the works IMO.
who for and how?
I think dwaino is thinking that Brisbane will now go for a midfielder at pick 12 (ie. one that we may want at pick 15).
:cheers >:(
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Goodbye Adams, although surely they won't pass up on Greene?
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Longer to Brisbane at 8 is a spanner in the works IMO.
who for and how?
I think dwaino is thinking that Brisbane will now go for a midfielder at pick 12 (ie. one that we may want at pick 15).
Ah cool. Thanks
Haven't been into this years draft much as previous years because of the GWS factor.
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Seen a couple phantom drafts with Docherty to Brisbane at 12. Maybe Adams will slip through afterall....
update: scratch that lol
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11. GWS - Toby Greene
12. Bris - Sam Docherty
And there is it.
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Brandon Ellis, welcome Crumpet :cheers
I wonder if that feedback on the PA after FJ called it was an omen.
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Oh poo. Will we snag Adams?
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Ellis hmmm not ideal holy crap mckenzie gone
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Elton
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13. GWs - Taylor Adams
14. GWs - Devon Smith
15. Rich - Brandon Ellis
16. Freo - Tom Sheridan'
17. WB - Clay Smith
18. North - Brad McKenzie
19. Ess - Elliot Kavanagh
20. Freo - Hayden Crozier
21. Syd - Tom Mitchell
22. Carl - Josh Bootsma
23. WCE - Murray Newman
24. GC - Henry Schade
25. St K - Seb Ross
26. Rich - Todd Elton
27. Adel - Sam Kerridge
28. WCE - Francis McInness
29. Freo - Alex Forster
30. Bris - Elliot Yeo
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WTF just happened?! :-[
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just looked at the AFL site phantom draft they had henry schade at pick 45 haha.
Emma Quayle had it correct at pick 24 for GC
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Kersten our 3rd pick? Or Maric
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I'm still trying to understand this manoeuvre..
15. Rich - Brandon Ellis
16. Freo - Tom Sheridan'
17. WB - Clay Smith
18. North - Brad McKenzie
19. Ess - Elliot Kavanagh
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The guy we were suposed to be interested in with our first pick is still here at 32 ???
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Cats jagged Kersten
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Bulldogs jag Talia
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Maric at our 3rd pick?
Hurry up saints you effing chodes :banghead
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I'm still trying to understand this manoeuvre..
15. Rich - Brandon Ellis
16. Freo - Tom Sheridan'
17. WB - Clay Smith
18. North - Brad McKenzie
19. Ess - Elliot Kavanagh
Its simple they believe that Half Back Flankers win you premierships lol. ;D Personally I wouldnt have picked him because I thought there were plenty of others who could have been picked before but anyway we're just the punters who have to pay up so these decisions can be made.
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Round 2
31. Ess - Jackson Merrett
32. Geel - Joel Hamling
33. Haw - Bradley Hill
34. Geel - Shane Kersten
35. St K - Daniel Markworth
36. Melb - Rory Taggett
37. St K - Jack Newnes
38. Haw - Jordan Kelly
39. WB - Michael Talia
40. North - Tom Curran
41. Adel - Michael Grigg
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Round 2 cont.
42. St K - Jimmy Webster
43. Syd - Jordan Lockyer
44. Carl - Sam Rowe
45. Port - Brendon Ah Chee
46. Adel - Nick Joyce
47. Bris - Patrick Wearden
48. Geel - Jordan Murdoch
A fair few surprises in the last 10.
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So much for the Hun linking us to Kersten :wallywink. Bloody Crows got Grigg :-\.
I'm trying to think who is still left for pick 55?
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half expecting 'pass' at 55
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I'm still trying to understand this manoeuvre..
15. Rich - Brandon Ellis
16. Freo - Tom Sheridan'
17. WB - Clay Smith
18. North - Brad McKenzie
19. Ess - Elliot Kavanagh
Its simple they believe that Half Back Flankers win you premierships lol. ;D Personally I wouldnt have picked him because I thought there were plenty of others who could have been picked before but anyway we're just the punters who have to pay up so these decisions can be made.
Heard he has a terrible attitude. Don't know how viable. I don't mind Brandon Ellis at all though. Ready made AFL body, can play multiple positions and I personally think that he may be a project as inside mid at some stage. Not terrible I would image considering I would have thought Adams and Docherty would have been our two preferred picks.
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Pies got Paine :o
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Round 3
49. WB - Daniel Pearce
50. Coll - Jackson Paine ....... a steal at 50?
51. Port - Nathan Blee
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Sam Frost still around isn't he?
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Our pick now. Stalling.....
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52. melb - Josh Tynan
53. Haw - Alex Woodward
54. Melb - James Sellar :o
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And it's Arnott
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ARNOTT? I want frosty!!
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will provide juicy forum convos.. who will get delisted for McCarthy? 8)
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Anyone know anything about arnott??
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The goo??
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lol anyway good luck to all the kids today. :lol
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will provide juicy forum convos.. who will get delisted for McCarthy? 8)
Jackson :pray ;D
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Not sure why we went with another small mid when young talls Frost and Downie were still available :-\.
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Not sure why we went with another small mid when young talls Frost and Downie were still available :-\.
Theres not alot to say really. Hopefully it comes off for the recruiting team but going with 2 smaller type players today is a massive risk IMHO.
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Round 3 cont.
55. Rich - Matthew Arnot
56. GWs - Tom Downie
57. WB - Tory Dickson
58. Freo - Lachlan Neale
59. Ess - Nick O'Brien
60. St K - Jay Lever
61. Syd - Alex Brown
62. Carl - Dylan Buckley (F/S)
63. WCE - Ashton Hams (rookie elevation)
64. Adel - Cameron Ellis-Yolmen
65. Coll - Corey Gault
66. Geel - Lincoln McCarthy
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Some higher ranked still sliding, seems to me most clubs decided on who they wanted and didnt really look to hard as to who was still left on the board. Maybe we can get lucky and get some good kids down to train with us before the rookie draft.
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Anyone know anything about arnott??
Arnot? Well that takes the biscuit!
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Not sure why we went with another small mid when young talls Frost and Downie were still available :-\.
Theres not alot to say really. Hopefully it comes off for the recruiting team but going with 2 smaller type players today is a massive risk IMHO.
We should be picking 6' 2" mids not more 180cms :P
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Collingwood to call out Fev with their last pick? ;)
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Not sure why we went with another small mid when young talls Frost and Downie were still available :-\.
Theres not alot to say really. Hopefully it comes off for the recruiting team but going with 2 smaller type players today is a massive risk IMHO.
i take it that means you are comfortable with the smaller type players we have?
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Not sure why we went with another small mid when young talls Frost and Downie were still available :-\.
Theres not alot to say really. Hopefully it comes off for the recruiting team but going with 2 smaller type players today is a massive risk IMHO.
i take it that means you are comfortable with the smaller type players we have?
My opinion is that what you bring in has to have the potential to be better than what you currently have. Im not happy with what weve got at the moment but I cant see Arnot or Ellis being any better than what we have at the moment. Its just my opinion thats all.
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Ohailpin to GWS
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Sentanta O'Hailpan and of course James MacDonald off to GWS
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Anyone know anything about arnott??
Arnot? Well that takes the biscuit!
Crumpet and now Biscuit lol.
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Not sure why we went with another small mid when young talls Frost and Downie were still available :-\.
Theres not alot to say really. Hopefully it comes off for the recruiting team but going with 2 smaller type players today is a massive risk IMHO.
i take it that means you are comfortable with the smaller type players we have?
Not happy with our midsized mids either al yet we didn't recruit anyone new who was 185-188cm tall. So that's another year of Jackson and maybe Tuck in our 22 :P
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This draft has left me very confused....but also hungry! :burgereater
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Not sure why we went with another small mid when young talls Frost and Downie were still available :-\.
Theres not alot to say really. Hopefully it comes off for the recruiting team but going with 2 smaller type players today is a massive risk IMHO.
i take it that means you are comfortable with the smaller type players we have?
Not happy with our midsized mids either al yet we didn't recruit anyone new who was 185-188cm tall. So that's another year of Jackson and maybe Tuck in our 22 :P
Affirmative
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Happy to trust the club.
Happy that we picked three victorians.
:thumbsup
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Crumpet, Toddster and Biscuit :cheers
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Not sure why we went with another small mid when young talls Frost and Downie were still available :-\.
Theres not alot to say really. Hopefully it comes off for the recruiting team but going with 2 smaller type players today is a massive risk IMHO.
i take it that means you are comfortable with the smaller type players we have?
My opinion is that what you bring in has to have the potential to be better than what you currently have. Im not happy with what weve got at the moment but I cant see Arnot or Ellis being any better than what we have at the moment. Its just my opinion thats all.
what are your knocks on them Ramps? Why are they not good enough?
theres nothing even on the RFC website about arnot, he must have taken even the IT crowd by surprise. Anything you could tell us about him?
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No reason why he cant eventually turn into an inside mid. :pray
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Crumpet, Toddster and Biscuit :cheers
Toddster or Tosca? ;D
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And FEV remains homeless ;D
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Not sure why we went with another small mid when young talls Frost and Downie were still available :-\.
Theres not alot to say really. Hopefully it comes off for the recruiting team but going with 2 smaller type players today is a massive risk IMHO.
i take it that means you are comfortable with the smaller type players we have?
My opinion is that what you bring in has to have the potential to be better than what you currently have. Im not happy with what weve got at the moment but I cant see Arnot or Ellis being any better than what we have at the moment. Its just my opinion thats all.
what are your knocks on them Ramps? Why are they not good enough?
theres nothing even on the RFC website about arnot, he must have taken even the IT crowd by surprise. Anything you could tell us about him?
I just have a different view to the types of players we should be recruiting thats all. I wish all these boys well.
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Crumpet, Toddster and Biscuit :cheers
Toddster or Tosca? ;D
hmm. I think we need to establish a committee to work out a nickname for Toadstool.
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When is the rejects draft? Did Fev get picked up?
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Not sure why we went with another small mid when young talls Frost and Downie were still available :-\.
Theres not alot to say really. Hopefully it comes off for the recruiting team but going with 2 smaller type players today is a massive risk IMHO.
i take it that means you are comfortable with the smaller type players we have?
My opinion is that what you bring in has to have the potential to be better than what you currently have. Im not happy with what weve got at the moment but I cant see Arnot or Ellis being any better than what we have at the moment. Its just my opinion thats all.
what are your knocks on them Ramps? Why are they not good enough?
theres nothing even on the RFC website about arnot, he must have taken even the IT crowd by surprise. Anything you could tell us about him?
I just have a different view to the types of players we should be recruiting thats all. I wish all these boys well.
what type should they have got?
I see a couple of blokes who win the hard ball and make good decisions when they get it - two blokes who will strive to get the best out of themselves
what sort of players would you have got instead?
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When is the rejects draft? Did Fev get picked up?
Fev's homeless ;D
Next Draft is 13th Dec
PSD first then the rookie draft
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When is the rejects draft? Did Fev get picked up?
Fev's homeless ;D
Next Draft is 13th Dec
PSD first then the rookie draft
He's playing in darwin and up here they're called long grassers. :P
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When is the rejects draft? Did Fev get picked up?
Fev's homeless ;D
Next Draft is 13th Dec
PSD first then the rookie draft
Thanks Willy :thumbsup
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dont mention it!
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thanks for the updates Tiga even though i watched it on tele :thumbsup
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thanks for the updates Tiga even though i watched it on tele :thumbsup
No probs Gerks. :thumbsup I got some video footage of our table discussing the various picks. Unfortunately the buggers whisper so no audio.
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Yes, loved your work Tiga ;)
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some idiot is saying Crumpet, Toast and Biscuit :lol
as long as we didn't draft any pancakes or donuts
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some idiot is saying Crumpet, Toast and Biscuit :lol
as long as we didn't draft any pancakes or donuts
Add beefcakes to those 3 and we have our own fast food chain ;D ;D
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Add beefcakes to those 3 and we have our own fast food chain >:(
Dont tell Relton!
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Dea too.
Wasn't sure how we'd go with Ellis with Batchelor looking like he'll get plenty of game time, Houli, Morris in the mix now, etc, but after watching his draft interview thingy again I can see why
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pJrQTy2bpHI
definitely has his head screwed on and attitude is A+. The big key was where he said it was the Cannons that made him a defender and he has played forward and mid. Big body and sounds like he has some good fitness... can see him being groomed to be a stocky inside juggernaut.
While the Jews are waiting for the one they call the Messiah, at Tigerland we are reading the tea leaves, looking at the signs for the one Riewoldt calls 'Crumpet.'
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Add beefcakes to those 3 and we have our own fast food chain >:(
Dont tell Relton!
;D
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X3
Thanks Tiga
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John Patton has a tiny head
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John Patton has a tiny head
How well do you know this kid?
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well enough to know he has a tiny head, i gather?
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well enough to know he has a tiny head, i gather?
so pretty well then? :lol
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well enough to know he has a tiny head, i gather?
so pretty well then? :lol
;) :lol :thumbsup
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have you seen it? it's about the size of a big mac
walking around like a reverse mayor McCheese
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Gee whiz
(http://resources2.news.com.au/images/2011/11/08/1226188/223834-patton-coniglio.jpg)
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dunno bout that hair helmet either. epic fail, he is the new Banik and who is the dude with the blue oyster bar flick over next to him? I kid I kid!
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For those interested Club 80 is having a night to meet and talk to our latest recruits/draftees on Dec 13 at the ME Bank Centre, Punt Rd Oval. This is the day of the Pre-Season and Rookie drafts.
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Come and meet the newest additions to our playing list in Ivan Maric, Steven Morris, Brandon Ellis, Todd Elton, and Matthew Arnot.
All five of our recent additions from the Trade period and National Draft shall be speaking on the night in order for us to get a hint as to what to expect from our exciting new talent in the future, with a bit of luck we might be able to get one or two players from the Pre-Season draft there also.
Date: Tuesday 13th December 2011
Where: The ME Bank Centre, Punt Road, Richmond (3rd Floor, where RFC Social Club is held, please enter through the social club entrance next to the Tiger Store, not through the Main Entrance)
Time: 7.00pm sharp
Cost: $75 members, $100 non-members
Food & drink included (beer, wine & soft drink)
A RSVP to our e-mail address is required by 3pm Friday 9th December to allow us to cater appropriately.
Please note: Player attendance may be subject to change at the last moment and at the Club’s discretion.
http://www.club80.com.au/pdf/December%20Function%202011.pdf
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(http://col.stb.s-msn.com/i/1A/A25A86293F984A4AAC775CE8A1AC.jpg)
the donuts
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totally forgot about john patton's pinhead
(http://images.theage.com.au/2011/05/31/2398761/art-svPATTON-420x0.jpg)
i love this guy, he is going to be a gun with the smallest head of all time
#1fan
anyone going to this club80 thing to meet the new players?