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Football => Richmond Rant => Topic started by: mightytiges on January 20, 2005, 04:22:06 AM
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Class and skillwise I have alot of time for Newman and in his first couple of seasons he seemed to be coming along nicely. But he stalled in his development last year like so many of his teammates under Spud.
Where is he at with his footy? He comes across to me as natural driver off a HBF who will thrive under Terry and become an important cog in Wallace's freer and more attacking gameplan.
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I'm with you on this one MT. I rate Newman as one of our best players in that he is probably the most rounded player on our list ie has the least defieciencies. I don't beleive he stalled last year, rather he was plugging alot of hole caused by spuds game plan and incompetent teamates. I have no doubts that Newman will be of great value to the Wallace plan, and I woudn't be surprised if he carves himself a successful role in the midfield. What I like about newmo is his clean hands below his kness and his kicking skills - valuable.
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I'm not yet convinced Newman will ever be a midfielder.Like you guys I've always quite liked him but everytime he went into the centre bounces he looked a little lost to me.Maybe it was because he was ussually tagging but ,to me he didn't seem to know where to position himself.He's still young and with Terry and chocco we have 2 guys who could probably rectify this deficiency.It'll be interesting to see how he is used in 2005.
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I tend to agree with the Plow King - I don't think Newman is a mid-fielder. I will admit to being very disappointed in his 2004 season. He stagnated and to me a tleast showed very little if any improvement - whether that was because of the previous coaching regime time will tell under Tezza and his crew.
His best position IMO is accross half back, although even there his disposal at times was exposed because he does miss a lot of targets but hey he has alot of mates. Although he seems good in the clinches I don't think he has the speed or the fitness grunt needed to be in the mid-field. One thing I will be watching with interest will be how often he sweep forward under the new game plan. He seemed to go ultra defensive so many times in 2004 (and that I do blame on the previous coaches :P). The other thing was he's a left footer and like a couple of other of the left foot brigade he got in the wrong position alot in 2004 and that meant the only way his kicks could go were wide rather than more direct.
To be honest IMO - 2005 is a make or break year for him.
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I rate Newman as a Gun. He did have a ordinary year, but as Harry said he was all over the place trying to plug the gaps.
He always does the right thing and makes the right decision which is very valuable, i also think he is a very good leader and a potential future captain.
He reminds me a lot of Matthew Knights in the way that he always seems to have plenty of time when he has the footy. i dont see any reason why he couldnt become a regular on baller.
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I too think Newmo is a very good player. The thing that impresses me most about him is that he has great vision and always seems to have plenty of time and is cool under pressure ala Buckley. I felt that last year he was just going through the motions like most of the players. I think we will see a very different Chris Newman this season under Wallace.
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Chris Newman is a solid dependable half back flank or back pocket, nothing more, nothing less.
He has good fundamentals, kicks and handballs well, has good vision, pretty good pace, knows what to do with the footy once he gets it.
But he will not make it to the midfield. The main reason for this is that he is not the type of player who is capable of finding the footy often enough. This is somethig that can't be taught, and so I don't think he will ever improve in his ball winning capabilities. Getting between 15-20 touches on ball won't cut it. Well not for a team with prospects of finishing anything north of 14th on the ladder.
This is a concern we have with many of our younger pseudo on ballers. Rodan, Hyde, Krakouer etc haven't shown the capacity to get the ball often enough that is needed of a midfielder. For this reason, I think they will all be failures as on ball prospects. In my view we are really stuffed hardcore when it comes to the midfield. I'm hoping someone like Raines, Gilmour, Deledio steps up otherwise (and with the prospect of Coughlan on the sidelines) we could really find ourselves getting pumped out of the centre this year (hey what's new, I know, but it could get REALLY ugly).
Newman is a good player though, he has his spot in the backline, but he's not a midfielder.
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Agree Newman belongs in the backline. He has very good disposal so needs to be in a position (off a HBF) to use that to our advantage. Not as a tagger as Spud used him a few times ???. He should base his footy on doing the role Andrew Mackay use to at Carlton.
This is a concern we have with many of our younger pseudo on ballers. Rodan, Hyde, Krakouer etc haven't shown the capacity to get the ball often enough that is needed of a midfielder. For this reason, I think they will all be failures as on ball prospects. In my view we are really stuffed hardcore when it comes to the midfield. I'm hoping someone like Raines, Gilmour, Deledio steps up otherwise (and with the prospect of Coughlan on the sidelines) we could really find ourselves getting pumped out of the centre this year (hey what's new, I know, but it could get REALLY ugly).
It couldn't get any uglier than last year :banghead. Agree we'll still suck mostly next year but at least it will because our young midfielders coming through despite their talents are not strong enough yet in the body to compete with the big boys. Raines and Krakouer seem to be the ones capable of stepping up this year. Krakouer's main problem is he needs to show consistency. Rodan and Hyde are playing for their careers this year IMO.
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Ironically, Newman actually played in the middle today in the training practise match and played quite well.Probably one of the best.
Agree with Mightry Tiges about Raines and Krak.They look tthe goods and were again the standouts in the midfield along with Rodan and a bit of Hyde and Meyer.
I must say it's refreshing to see options for once while Cogs and Johhno are in the rehab group.More than anything we need depth in the midfield.Good clubs like Port,Aints etc have 10 guys who can swing into the centre and play wellat a drop of a hat.In the past we've been lucky to have 3.
Jacko and Hartigan also look good to play midfield at times in 2005.As they say in the classics "it won't happen over night,but it will happen"
Tivendale and Bowden are firing.I reckon big seasons for both of them.
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I must say it's refreshing to see options for once while Cogs and Johhno are in the rehab group.More than anything we need depth in the midfield.Good clubs like Port,Aints etc have 10 guys who can swing into the centre and play wellat a drop of a hat.In the past we've been lucky to have 3.
Spot on Plow. We've always relied on the same blokes to do the work in the middle. Just nigh on impossible now days for midfielders to play a whole game in the midfield (unless you're Simon Black). You need a whole bunch of blokes you can rotate through there to keep up with the pace of the game.
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Hope so Plow King.
Just one thing not to forget though when you see Krakouer, Rodan, Newman etc, dominating on the training track: who is their opposition?
That's why I don't place much stock in how guys go at training. It's one thing beating Roach in an onball contest, its another thing beating a Ricciuto, Black or West, which is who these guys will be facing when the real thing arrives.
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Yep,fair call JohnF.They still have a long way to go, no doubt. It's easy to be a legend on the training track.Maybe it's the sun burn and few too many beers but today i saw a bit of promise.Im still very sceptical of Rodan but a few of the other guys like Krak,Jacko Hyde and Raines certainly are showing good signs.
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As a self-confessed Newman fan, I just reckon after a flat 2004 he's had an awesome year so far getting the better of his direct opponent each week as well as generating heaps of run and rebounds out of defence. What's more he can back it by hitting targets. He won't grab the headlines or votes but he just goes about doing his job as the quiet achiever. Even in our loss to the Cats he was reasonable in a thumped side. On ya Chrissy Newman :thumbsup
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Newman = Makepeace
A bloke who does his job every week for ten years
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Newman = Makepeace
A bloke who does his job every week for ten years
Know what you mean JohnF but IMO Newman has more strings to his bow than a Makepeace (although I rate him as well). He can play tight and contain a tricky small-mid sized forward or zone off and give us plenty of run out of defence. He can also have spurts in the midfield if required.
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I luv quiet achievers who just do their job week in and week out with no fuss.
The type of player who wins B&Fs. Not sure if he's up in that league yet, but you can't knock him.
Well done, Chris.
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Give a guy a rap ..... :-[. Towelled up by of all forward pockets Milne :P. Not alone in having a very dirty day though.
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Give a guy a rap ..... :-[. Towelled up by of all forward pockets Milne :P. Not alone in having a very dirty day though.
roflmao, you're not alone in looking stupid. I felt like a dil saying newman is like Makepeace after Makepeace's game on the weekend.
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What a leveller footy is hey lol :rollin
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Give a guy a rap ..... :-[. Towelled up by of all forward pockets Milne :P. Not alone in having a very dirty day though.
More than towelled up >:( Gave Milne (who is one of those players I just cannot stand) far too much freedom and latitude. A shocker and Golden Turnup nominations awaits :help :banghead
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in his defence it was a bad match up but we had no other option. if harts was in maybe he could have had the pace to keep up with that arroganyt piece os st poo!
also th eball was rebounding so fast it was just a hard task to fill
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Newman is a great bloke, does his bit week in week out
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Milne was too fast for Newman, wrong decision by Wallace, should have been Chaffey. One on One Newman is very good, but if his opponent has speed, then he will be left shaking his head, and he was.
Newman would have suited the Guerra type.
In the end I am surprised AFL coaches can get match ups so wrong, many times it is so obvious I just cant understand their thinking.
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Milne (who is one of those players I just cannot stand)
Join the queue WP :rollin.
Newman allowed Milne to get front and square everytime. He needed to corral him towards the boundary line but that's a difficult taks with the way the ball was coming so often :P.
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Tiger keeps tight hold on goalsneaks
08 May 2005
Sunday Herald Sun
Ken Piesse
For all the talk about versatility in football, there is still room for specialists. Take Richmond's Chris Newman, who has a happy knack of closing down opposing goalsneaks. Ken Piesse reports.
CHRIS Newman says it all goes back to the old kick-to-kick sessions with the kids from Birch Court, Narre Warren.
Among them were next-door neighbour and future Carlton star Brendan Fevola.
"We'd put jumpers down to mark the goals at each end and kick back and forth until the stars came out," he said.
"We were always competing.
"If you couldn't mark, you'd try and knock it away.
"Brendan would always be looking to roost it longer than we could. He was always a standout."
While Newman may not have the profile of Carlton's glamour full-forward, long-time Tiger insiders regard him as one of the younger brigade premierships are built around.
"He's cool and composed, a good driver in heavy traffic," the club's media director and lifelong supporter Tony Greenberg said. "He stands the opposition's best small forward every week.
"He also does the kick-ins.
"His skills are so good.
"He's got a terrific temperament."
But Newman admits some days are better than others. After holding Fremantle's Jeff Farmer to only a few kicks (in Round 4), the left-footer conceded five goals to St Kilda's livewire goalsneak Stephen Milne (Round 5).
Newman said Richmond's roller-coaster season might yet have some more bumps, but that was inevitable with any side learning a new style under a new coach.
"We're all working on our consistency," he said. "We tend not to do the right things all the time, but eventually it'll come, especially with a bit of work on the track."
Approaching yesterday's crunch game against the Blues, he said it was important after the highs of the Port Adelaide match to be equally hungry for the ball and look to attack at all costs.
"We haven't always performed well in front of big crowds, so we treated it as a pretty big occasion," he said.
He says the winning feeling surrounding Matthew Richardson's 200th game in Round 6 created extra bubble all week at Punt Rd.
He said yesterday's game yesterday and next Sunday's big one against another old rival Collingwood are stepping stones in the bigger picture in Richmond's revival.
"The boys are happy with winning," he said.
"But in the back of our minds we know how far we have to go as well.
"Winning certainly beats losing."
Recruited in the bottom of the 2000 intake -- at No.55 -- he has played four seasons in Richmond's senior side, reaching his 50-game milestone last year.
He escaped serious kidney damage late last season in a collision with teammate Chris Hyde. While he missed the last three games, he regained his senior spot from the start of this year,
impressing new coach Terry Wallace with his mixture of skilful disposal and determined, unflustered attitude.
LAST year Newman played 19 consecutive matches before being injured against Adelaide in Round 20.
His stats were impressive: 152 kicks, 101 handballs and 66 marks.
Newman said the Tigers had a nice mix of experience and fine young players.
It was up to those in their early 20s such as himself and others in his 2000 intake such as Kayne Pettifer, Mark Coughlan and Andrew Krakouer to emerge and show the way for the first-year players such as high-profile draft choices Richard Tambling and Brett Deledio.
"We all realise we have to take that next step and start to produce consistently," he said.
"We have generally been fairly competitive, but we need to keep improving each week.
"As Terry says being able to move the ball as quick as possible is a real key for is.
"We want to play an exciting brand of football which draws big crowds."
Newman played his junior football at Narre Warren and Beaconsfield before being invited to the Dandenong Stingrays.
He originally barracked for Carlton and his hero was the much-decorated Stephen Silvagni.
Away from football he has completed a short course in real estate and is studying Spanish along with several of his teammates, with an aim to use it sometime in the off-season come the holidays.
http://www.heraldsun.news.com.au/footy/common/story_page/0,8033,15208270%255E19742,00.html
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Nice guy Newman. Got my pic taken with him when I was done there. Not in the same league as Richo or Simmo but very friendly.
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Nice guy Newman. Got my pic taken with him when I was done there. Not in the same league as Richo or Simmo but very friendly.
Those little guys just don't do it for you do they Julz? :rollin :rollin :rollin
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Tiger backs show united front
By Emma Quayle
The Age
May 8, 2005
Richmond kicked seven goals in the first quarter yesterday. Carlton did not post its first serious score until 24 minutes had passed in the second term.
The Tigers won by 85 points, and Chris Newman spent most of his afternoon spearing low, slicing kicks into his teammates' arms. Still, the Richmond defender knew he would be in for a sleepless night.
"It's funny, after games like that. Everything goes well and you want to enjoy it, but your mind keeps going over all the mistakes you made," Newman said.
"I kicked a real clanger from the kickout and I was pretty disappointed with the whole last quarter, actually. I probably shouldn't dwell on it too much but it's always in the back of your mind that you should have done this and you should have done that.
"I don't think I'd change anything at all about the match because of the result, but I'll probably still toss and turn a bit. Sometimes you can't sleep at all if you've made a massive mistake, even if you've won, but I might have got away with it today."
http://www.realfooty.theage.com.au/realfooty/articles/2005/05/07/1115422848421.html
:rollin We’re not usually that forgiving, but I suppose we can forgive him this one time.
I was laughing so hard after I read that I had to find a wall to lean against so as not to fall over.
You have to love that sort of attitude from a player. Don’t know that it’s all that necessary to lose sleep over a single error, but it’s good to see we have players with high expectations of themselves. :thumbsup
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You have to love that sort of attitude from a player. Don’t know that it’s all that necessary to lose sleep over a single error, but it’s good to see we have players with high expectations of themselves. :thumbsup
Exactly TS. Good to see we've now got blokes coming through who are never satisfied and are hungry to play at their best :thumbsup.
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If Newman is being kept up at night over the clangers he makes blokes like Chaffey must have insomnia!
lmfaoooo@Chaffey not having gone to sleep since 2002.
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If Newman is being kept up at night over the clangers he makes blokes like Chaffey must have insomnia!
lmfaoooo@Chaffey not having gone to sleep since 2002.
Absolutely :rollin
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If Newman is being kept up at night over the clangers he makes blokes like Chaffey must have insomnia!
lmfaoooo@Chaffey not having gone to sleep since 2002.
Absolutely :rollin
No caffeine tablets for the Chaffster!
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lmfaooooo Bg.
lmfaoooooo@players making clangers before the match instead of taking Nodoz.
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Anyone reckon that these players don't care - that just proves they do.
Onya Chris :thumbsup
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Hello Newman...
The Fighting Tiger Bulletin
By Tony Greenberg
You won't find Chris Newman on 'The Footy Show'.
You won't find Chris Newman in the footy headlines of your favorite newspaper.
You won't find Chris Newman mingling with the 'glamors' at the Brownlow Medal.
Where you will find Chris Newman is in the backline for Richmond on match days, quietly, but ultra-efficiently going about his business.
The 23-year-old veteran of nearly 70 AFL games, is one of those players who somehow manages to stay out of the spotlight, despite being darn good at his craft.
His explanation for that is typically modest: "I'm a backline player, I'm stock-standard. . . just a few spoils and that sort of thing."
While Newman's new coach at Tigerland, Terry Wallace, acknowledges that his reliable left-foot defender does tend to slip under the radar, he certainly wouldn't describe him as "stock-standard".
"He doesn't really attract a lot of attention here either. I mean, you've got to go and seek him out - he won't come and seek you out. That's his nature. . . he's quiet - a 'doer' rather than a 'sayer' ," Wallace said.
'There are some blokes who will show the way by their actions on the training track, and some blokes who show the way by having a strong presence within the group.
"Chris shows the way just by what he does. He steps across the white line and he's a warrior.
"People will follow that type of person. . ."
Despite Newman's low profile and lowkey approach to the game, Wallace actually took particular interest in him upon arrival at Punt Road as coach.
"I play basketball with his uncle, so it was only natural to watch him a little bit closer," he said.
That 'friendly' link, however, didn't stop Wallace from being his customary forthright, honest self at his first official meeting with Newman.
"He told me that I was coming into my fifth year and he thought I was one of those players who needed to make that next step and start performing, otherwise everything might go downhill from there," Newman said.
"Five years in, he felt I probably should have been a bit more developed than what I had shown - probably more so in terms of last year. The year before that he thought was okay."
Newman agreed with his coach's assessment...
"I saw myself as having made a steady improvement up until last year when I just flat-lined, or probably even decreased. I wanted to take the next step last year, but obviously it didn't happen. It was disappointing that I couldn't get the job done for the team and disappointing that we were losing every week," he said.
"We were 4-4 after eight rounds and that wasn't too bad. . . but after that it was just horrific. We couldn't get anything right on the field."
Wallace has no doubt the team's poor form in 2004 contributed to Newman's individual improvement graph heading slightly south for the first time in his league career.
"I thought he just lost his way a little bit last year, which can happen when you're playing in an environment that is not a winning one," Wallace said.
Midway through 2005, Tigerland is a totally different place. . . much to Newman's delight.
"I think confidence is a pretty big thing and obviously last year our confidence was shot to bits. It's like a fresh start now. We've really taken to Terry and the new coaching staff. And, the new players have helped, too, with a bit of experience and a bit of youth there," Newman said.
"We'd be pretty disappointed if we didn't make the eight after a good start to the season, but obviously we can't look too much ahead because anything can happen.
Every win's pretty much a bonus for me after last year. I just love winning:'
Newman's role in Richmond's solid showing during the first half of the year has been significant.
He has not only nullified the opposition's best small forwards on a consistent basis, but he's also been a springboard for Tiger attacking thrusts with his hard running and penetrating left foot.
Wallace has been suitably impressed with the way 'Newie' has responded to the challenge he threw down to him,
"Initially, I thought he probably would develop into one of our midfielders - a strong-bodied, in-and-under type. But then I found out that we didn't have many hard-nosed, strong, tough defenders who could play on the 'smalls'. So, almost through necessity, rather than anything else, we've kept him in the backline," Wallace said.
"He's good enough to play in the midfield, but I wanted to get some real stability into our backline, as well as some physical strength. I just thought Chris had the ability to fill that role really well - and he's taken it on magnificently,
"If I find myself some replacements, some guys to come up from underneath, who are wanting to take on that sort of role in the backline, then I'm sure he can develop into a top-line midfielder.
"But that doesn't mean he has to. I've seen players in the past at other clubs almost All-Australian backmen - who have been desperate to get into the midfield. They finally got their way by pushing the issue, but I don't know whether that helped their careers. In fact, they probably were better players in the backline....
"Gary Ayres was good enough to play as a centreman/ruckrover, but he was also one of the best back pocket players going around. . . I don't have to move 'Newie' just for the sake of it"
Newman admits he has midfield aspirations, but is in no hurry to make the move to the 'coalface'.
"I played my junior football in the midfield and I want to try and develop into a midfielder at Richmond. The midfield roles that I've had have been mainly run-with roles, so I haven't really had the chance to play my own game, which I want to do eventually. But at the moment, I'm pretty comfortable being down back," he said.
'We've formed a bit of a bond in the back half. We're good mates off the field as well . . ' we catch up for lunch all the time and have a few laughs. And, the boys have been in fairly good form, too. . . 'Gas', 'Chubb', 'Tivva', 'Bowdo' and 'Razor'."
A key part of Newman's backline role with the Tigers this season has been the 'kick-ins'. The pressure on those players who bring the ball back into play after an
opposition has scored a behind is considerable, but it's something the unflappable Newman appears ideally suited to.
"Choco [Brian Royal) wanted me to kick in this year. I think I only did it a couple of times last year. I did it through the under-18s, although it's a bit different there. But I'm enjoying it . . ." he said.
"My kicking is something I needed to improve. I thought it was one of my strengths, but I wanted to fine tune it
"I've worked a fair bit with [assistant coach] Dave Wheadon and he's helped me with my ball drop and a few other things to do with my technique. Terry seems fairly happy with the way the kick-ins have been going.
He says he's seen steady improvement in my kicking,"
Not surprisingly, given the Tigers' startling improvement this season and his own good form, Newman is a devoted Wallace disciple.
"Terry's really positive. He's developed a formula for us to follow throughout the year, and that's what we stick to," Newman said.
"He's just really easy to understand, easy to get along with, and he obviously knows his stuff. . . he's really switched on.
"When he arrived, he went back to the basics with everything, and that's what we needed. Even with the skills, we just started with the basics pre-season. Everything has just sort of rolled on from there. . ...
Newman, who is contracted to the Tigers until the end of the 2006 season, is genuinely excited about the Club's prospects both short-term and long-term.
'We did really well in the Draft last year. We got the two best young players in the country in Brett Deledio and Richard Tambling. And, we also did well to get 'Simmo' (Troy Simmonds] across, along with Trent Knobel and 'Heebee' [Mark GrahamJ. That's helped bring a little bit of balance to the group," Newman said.
"Danny Meyer and Adam Pattison have shown they can play as well, and we've got quite a few other promising young players on the list, too.
"I can't wait till those young blokes really hit their straps because that will be something to see. . ...
Newman, at his stage of league football life, is fully aware of the extra responsibility now on his shoulders at Tigerland, as he strives to set the right example for the Club's talented department of youth.
And, he admits that down the track he would relish the opportunity of being involved in an official leadership capacity with the Tigers.
"It's something that you've got to take on a bit with the younger players now, but obviously in the future I want to look to be in the leadership group," he said.
"You look at the players who are in there at the Club (Johnson, Brown, Bowden and RichardsonJ and they're the real core of the playing group.
"To be in the leadership group's a big honor, and it'd be great if that happens...".
In the meantime, though, Newman will do what Newman does best - take care of business on the field of battle for the Yellow and Black, minus any fuss or bother.
That's the Chris Newman way...
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Fantastic game today from Chrissy Newman. Gave Nick Davis a bath. He was allowed to play in a more natural running off half-back role and he blitzed passing well and taking some telling marks particularly that last one to snuff out the Swannies last chance. B.O.G.
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He is a great back-pocket, half-back. I like him there rather than in the midfield.
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Without trying to mozz him, Newy hasn't missed a beat this year after coming back from a broken leg.
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mozzed :gobdrop
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mozzed :gobdrop
He'll be fine touchwood lol
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mozzed :gobdrop
:rollin
Without trying to mozz him, Newy hasn't missed a beat this year after coming back from a broken leg.
Might not have missed a beat MT but has certainly missed a few targets ;D
(oops it must be catching :help :pray :whistle ;D)
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Might not have missed a beat MT but has certainly missed a few targets ;D
(oops it must be catching :help :pray :whistle ;D)
I thought he was one of our better players last Friday night. It'll probably take another few months given he missed a fair chuck of footy before he's fully back to where he was before the broken leg. I'm just happy he touchwood isn't having any complications like others coming back from a broken leg sadly are.
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Too right.
On ya Newy. :thumbsup
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Chris Newman "I" believe will be our next Captain. The North Melbourne match was bad, though Chris to me looked; Hungry, Won the 50/50 contests, Took strong marks under pressure. Our Future Captain we have found. Mark Coughlan could of been our next Captain. "I" also would like "The Captain" not to wear "The No.17". All Richmond jumps should have a little "No.17" on the back. eg: where; BBFFC, FFC, SMFC writing would be.
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Tigers will rebound: Newman
richmondfc.com.au
Matt Burgan
Mon 31 March, 2008
ACTING Richmond captain Chris Newman says some minor tinkering is all his team needs to get back on the winners' list.
Coach Terry Wallace promised changes after Sunday’s 41-point loss to North Melbourne, but Newman said the Tigers were well-placed to tackle arch-rival Collingwood next Sunday at the MCG.
"We have to get back to our starting points and get back to beating the opposition at the ball,” Newman told richmondfc.com.au. “The boys know where it's at and how to win games, but it's just a matter of applying that and it's a mindset thing.
"We've still got 100 per cent belief in where we're heading and we think that some of the things that we displayed out there are really fixable, so not all is lost and it's only round two.
"We wanted to be two [wins] and zero [losses] at this stage, but we're obviously not and we've got Collingwood next week, which should be a huge challenge, so we're going to have to step it up later in the week."
Newman said beating North Melbourne was always going to be difficult after a slow start.
"It was obviously a disappointing start to the game and we were behind the eight ball in the first quarter. It was really hard to fight our way back because the Kangaroos are such a competitive side - they're not going to let you off easily.
"I thought we fought back in the last quarter, but the game was lost."
Newman said it was a privilege to lead the side in the absence of Kane Johnson, who was sidelined after voluntarily suspending himself last week.
"It's been really exciting to be one of the vice-captains of the club,” Newman said.
“It's a huge honour and I don't take it lightly. At this stage, I'm always looking to improve my leadership qualities.
"It's a big challenge because we've got a fairly young group and we've had a big build-up and pre-season, and a lot of those players are starting to come into their own.
"It's all about the team winning and regardless of if I touch the footy or not - it's the team first and it's always disappointing to come off the ground with a loss."
http://www.richmondfc.com.au/Season2007/News/NewsArticle/tabid/6301/Default.aspx?newsId=57104
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Chris Newman "I" believe will be our next Captain. The North Melbourne match was bad, though Chris to me looked; Hungry, Won the 50/50 contests, Took strong marks under pressure. Our Future Captain we have found. Mark Coughlan could of been our next Captain. "I" also would like "The Captain" not to wear "The No.17". All Richmond jumps should have a little "No.17" on the back. eg: where; BBFFC, FFC, SMFC writing would be.
This jury is still out but he likely is the next captain
Thought he was doing alright until the last quarter, disappointing effort on the members wing (we were 30 points down), not enough intensity, ended resulting in that dribble goal that sealed it
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Newy for Captain :thumbsup
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Newy for Captain :thumbsup
He is a good player. :thumbsup
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Chris Newman "I" believe will be our next Captain. The North Melbourne match was bad, though Chris to me looked; Hungry, Won the 50/50 contests, Took strong marks under pressure. Our Future Captain we have found. Mark Coughlan could of been our next Captain. "I" also would like "The Captain" not to wear "The No.17". All Richmond jumps should have a little "No.17" on the back. eg: where; BBFFC, FFC, SMFC writing would be.
This jury is still out but he likely is the next captain
Thought he was doing alright until the last quarter, disappointing effort on the members wing (we were 30 points down), not enough intensity, ended resulting in that dribble goal that sealed it
Agree WP. In front at the moment as he was the only Tiger in the leadership group who played okay and didn't have an absolute shocker on Sunday.
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Give it to him now we need a real leader on feild. Not a pee poor one to follow.
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i dont think he should be next captain
is not accountable enough and is not an a class act that can win games and own the game
next captain should be deledio of foley
deledio for me
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Newman may be trade bait at the end of the season.
If he isn't then he will be captain as such are the idiosynchrisies we exist with at Punt Rd.
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Newman to lead the Tigers
Michael Gleeson | November 19, 2008
RESPECTED Richmond defender Chris Newman is expected to be announced as the new Tigers captain today, just a week after Kane Johnson stood down as skipper.
Midfielder Nathan Foley, a vice-captain this year with Newman, is expected to remain in that role.
The Tigers' changes will usher a new generation of mid-20s players into the leadership, but the Tigers are believed to have opted against going one step further and encouraging the younger generation again — players such as Brett Deledio or Trent Cotchin — into taking titled leadership positions.
Newman, who has worn the No. 1 guernsey, will now wear No. 17 following the pattern established in the past decade for the captain to wear the number of Jack Dyer, the club's most-revered player.
No player will wear No. 1 while Newman is captain, and Johnson, who was captain for four years, will again wear No. 28 next season.
Johnson, who took over the captaincy in 2005, led the Tigers in 77 matches but told the club recently the time was right to hand on the title.
Richmond might have considered a short-term sentimental appointment of club favourite Matthew Richardson to the top position but that romantic idea was quickly scotched by the club and the player.
Richardson said recently he would not be the captain, observing without bitterness that his moment passed when Wayne Campbell's term as captain ended and Johnson was appointed to the top job.
At the time he announced he had decided not to continue as captain, Johnson, predictably, did not nominate one successor but suggested that there were several qualified candidates.
"Oh look, there's probably three or four, probably five, that are definitely ready," Johnson said.
http://www.realfooty.com.au/news/news/newman-to-lead-the-tigers/2008/11/18/1226770453423.html
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Chris Newman tipped as new Richmond captain
Jon Ralph | November 19, 2008 12:00am
RICHMOND is expected to announce its new captain today, with Chris Newman the strong favourite to take over from midfielder Kane Johnson.
The Tigers have been quick to find a replacement for Johnson, who stood down last Wednesday to allow a new generation of leaders to prosper.
Newman is expected to win the captaincy from fellow vice-captain Nathan Foley, with the Tigers firm in their belief 21-year-old future leader Brett Deledio is not yet ready.
While 26-year-old Newman will be one of the more low-profile captains across the league, within the club he is considered a model citizen and on-field general.
The rebounding half-back flanker has played 133 games since making his debut in 2002, and has made a seamless recovery from a horrific leg fracture in 2006.
In keeping with Richmond tradition, the new skipper will give up his jumper number to wear the No. 17 guernsey of club legend Jack Dyer.
Unlike Collingwood, which for the second year in succession is conducting an exhaustive pre-season campaign to find a captain, the Tigers were keen to choose a new leader quickly.
The players were expected to vote on their preferred captain before the match committee made their recommendation on who should lead the club.
http://www.news.com.au/heraldsun/sport/afl/story/0,26576,24673141-19742,00.html
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In my books this is really good news. I don't know how the rest of you feel about it, but I'm wrapped about the news,
It has gone to the best person. :clapping :clapping :clapping :clapping
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Would have loved Richo, but this is a really good choice IMO.
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A wise choice but predictable none the less. I am hoping in future years we have a standout onfield performer and leader as a captain like most other clubs. This will mean players such as Foley, Lids, Cotch etc need to mature into the role and take it over in 2 or 3 years time.
Newman deserves the role. Congratulations Richmond on a sensible choice.
Stripes
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The right move.
Congrats Newy, do us proud.
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Can't wait for a few of those captain goals to happen.
You know the 55-60m kicks that just about go through the middle all the time.
Go Newy.
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It's official. They just had the media conference outside Punt Rd Oval by the Jack Dyer statue. Jack Dyer's grandson John Devine handed the #17 to Newy.
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:gotigers :clapping You little ripper,that is so good to hear. :clapping :gotigers
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Newman to lead the next wave
Richmond defender Chris Newman was named the Tigers' new captain today.
The 26-year-old takes over from Kane Johnson, who led the club for four years.
“It is such a massive honour and I am really grateful to the Club for putting such trust in me,” Newman said.
“To have John Devine, the grandson of Jack Dyer, present me with the famous number 17, was something I’ll never forget.”
Newman paid tribute to former captain Kane Johnson who stepped down last week after four years at the helm.
“Kane was an outstanding leader at our club and although they will be big shoes to fill, I am going to relish the challenges and opportunities that come with being Captain of such a proud club,” Newman said.
Coach Terry Wallace praised Newman for his outstanding qualities.
“Chris is known by Richmond people for his courage and selflessness. He is a player I can always rely on in the pressure cooker environment of AFL both on and off the field,” Wallace said.
Nathan Foley has been retained as vice captain and Brett Deledio and Kelvin Moore will round out the new look leadership group. Two players in the group - Foley and Moore - started their careers at Tigerland on the rookie list.
“Nathan leads by example and sets extremely high standards for his peers. Kelvin is a great organiser on field and has equipped himself well against key opposition forwards while Brett is a dynamic player and an exceptional team lifter,” Wallace said.
“I believe this leadership group represents the right blend of youth, experience and energy to take the Richmond Football Club forward in 2009,” he said.
Chris Newman profile
Age: 26 years, 6 months
Height: 183cm
Weight: 85kg
Draft details: Selected by Richmond at pick No. 55 (overall) in the 2000 National Draft.
Recruited from: Beaconsfield/Dandenong Stingrays
AFL debut: 2002
Games: 133
Goals: 17
http://richmondfc.com.au/tabid/6301/default.aspx?newsid=69902
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17 things about Chris Newman
richmondfc.com.au
1:46 PM Wed 19 November, 2008
Chris Newman is the Tigers' new captain, and will wear the famous number 17 jumper from next season, keeping the Richmond tradition of club skippers wearing Jack Dyer's famous guernsey.
To celebrate, here are 17 things about Chris Newman that you may or may not already know.
1. He was born in the year that Richmond last played in a Grand Final – 1982 (May 18).
2. He was selected by the Tigers with their 5th pick (No. 55 overall) in the 2000 National Draft behind Kayne Pettifer, Mark Coughlan, Chris Hyde and Andrew Krakouer.
3. At this stage only one other player from that 2000 National Draft has gone on to captain his club – St Kilda’s Nick Riewoldt, who was that year’s No. 1 pick.
4. He spent the entire 2001 season with Richmond’s VFL affiliate Coburg, although he was named as an emergency for the AFL side in Rounds 7 and 10.
5. He made his AFL debut with Richmond at age 20 years, 7 days, against St Kilda at Telstra Dome in Round 9, 2002 on May 25. He had 4 kicks, 2 handballs, 1 mark, 1 tackle, and the Tigers lost by 9 points (10.12 to 9.9).
6. His first nine games of league football were in losing sides, with his first win coming against Melbourne at the MCG in Round 18 of the 2002 season.
7. He had a career-high 32 disposals against St Kilda in Round 22 of the 2007 season.
8. He took a career-high 13 marks against Hawthorn in Round 20 of the 2008 season.
9. He has polled 11 Brownlow Medal votes all-up in his 133-game career, with his best result being 5 votes in 2007.
10. He was nominated as one of the Tiger Treasures of the Century this year in the goals category, for his “monster” torpedo-punt six-pointer against Fremantle at Subiaco in 2007.
11. His best goal return in a season was 5 in 2003.
12. He has played 44 consecutive games since returning from a severely broken leg, which he suffered against Collingwood at the MCG in Round 13, 2006.
13. He finished 4th in the Tigers’ Best and Fairest award this year.
14. He becomes the 39th captain in Richmond’s 100-year VFL/AFL history.
15. The No. 17 will be his third guernsey number since joining the Tigers. He started in No. 35 and took over No. 1 a couple of years ago.
16. He will become the third Richmond player to wear the “Captain’s No. 17” since its inception five years ago, following Kane Johnson and Wayne Campbell.
17. At 26, he is the youngest Richmond captain since Tony Free was appointed at age 24 in 1994.
http://www.afl.com.au/AFL2008/News/Article/tabid/208/default.aspx?newsid=69904
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Congratulations Chris Newman!
i hope under your leadership Richmond can always play finals and win a premiership!
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Congratulations Chris Newman - all the best
(and I do mean that ;))
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Congratulations Chris Newman - all the best
(and I do mean that ;))
Ditto
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1. He was born in the year that Richmond last played in a Grand Final – 1982 (May 18).
I was 27, still in the early years of marriage, pre-kids, 2 stone lighter and having a ball.
Makes me feel a little old.
But best wishes to Captain Chris.
:cheers
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Congratulations Chris Newman - all the best
(and I do mean that ;))
;D
Round 1 vs Carlton, 2009
WP - "What kind of pass what that Chris Newman. Not that of a captain" :lol. Only gagging :thumbsup
Congrats to Newy :clapping. Not a bad effort for pick 55 to end up as captain. Kirk, Harley and Mitchell have proven to be top captains and the best person for the job at their respective club despite not being fashionable at the time of their appointment. Hopefully Newy can do the same for us.
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Round 1 vs Carlton, 2009
WP - "What kind of pass what that Chris Newman. Not that of a captain" :lol. Only gagging :thumbsup
Ha Ha Ha :D - Round 1 2009 - Me thinks MT & WP will be at the footy together... so MT can keep an eye on me and report back to the OER masses :rollin
:whistle
:yep
:eyebrow
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Honoured to wear the number 17
By Mic Cullen
6:31 PM Wed 19 November, 2008
(http://mm.afl.com.au/Portals/0/images/AFL/AFL%20A-E/Newman_Captain_246a.jpg)
NEW RICHMOND skipper Chris Newman says it is an honour to captain his club.
Newman steps up to the role left vacant when Kane Johnson decided that four years was enough and it was time to hand the baton on to the younger generation.
In keeping with that, Newman (26 years old, 133 games), is joined in the leadership group by youngsters Nathan Foley (continuing as vice-captain, 23 years old, 70 games), Brett Deledio (21 years old, 84 games) and Kel Moore (24 years old, 46 games).
The Tigers face a significant year, with finals a must after another ninth placed finish in 2008, and Newman acknowledged the seriousness of the task.
"It's a huge honour, and I also see it as a responsibility now," he said at the club on Wednesday, standing in front of the statue of legendary skipper Jack Dyer.
"I've got big shoes to fill, with Kane Johnson stepping down and the fantastic job he's done around the club.
"I'm just really looking forward to getting into it, and it all pretty much feels surreal now, but I'm sure it'll sink in soon."
Newman, who suffered a horrendous broken leg in 2006, admitted being skipper was the furthest thing from his mind when he began his career.
"I've thought about that, and I would never have imagined it. If someone would have said at the start of my career eight years ago that I'd be captaining the Richmond Football Club, I probably would have laughed.
"But as I said, it's a huge step, and it's a role that I'm not taking lightly."
The 26-year-old has played 133 games since joining the club when he was taken at 55 in the 2000 NAB AFL National Draft.
He agreed it was an exciting time to be taking over as skipper, but said he wasn't aiming to model himself on anyone.
"We finished off the year well last year, and I think that the club is on the rise, and to take over now is a huge responsibility and one that I think I can fill along with the rest of the leadership group.
"I don't model myself on anyone in the AFL – I got picked to do this role because of something I bring to the table, so I'm not going to try and change too much.
"I am who I am, and I'll try and lead to the best of my ability."
http://www.richmondfc.com.au/tabid/6301/Default.aspx?newsid=69921
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Bloody good appointment. Well done Chris Newman.
Take us to the premiership Skipper!!
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I like Newman as a player, but I can't help thinking that in 2 years we'll be screaming out for Deledio or Cotchin to be skipper. On my criteria, you pick your best 3 players, and then pick a skipper from them. As much as I like Newman, I wouldn't rate him in our top 3. I would have convinced Richo to take it on for 2 years, and then we would have had 3 or 4 obvious choices to take it for the next 7-10 years.
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I like Newman as a player, but I can't help thinking that in 2 years we'll be screaming out for Deledio or Cotchin to be skipper.
I think that is exactly what will happen, three years max before it passes to Lids or Cotchin if he lives up to potential. Although Cotch might be still a bit young at that time.
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Agree Chuck. In 3-4 years Newy will be 30 while Lids at 25, Cotch at 22 and the list in general will be hitting their prime in 2012-13. We've given our most recent captains around 4 years in the job.
Round 1 vs Carlton, 2009
WP - "What kind of pass what that Chris Newman. Not that of a captain" :lol. Only gagging :thumbsup
Ha Ha Ha :D - Round 1 2009 - Me thinks MT & WP will be at the footy together... so MT can keep an eye on me and report back to the OER masses :rollin
:whistle
:yep
:eyebrow
Yep WP will be under Newy-watch surviellance :yep :rollin. I can also lookout for any more attempted crowd surfing by bg25 ;D.
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Yep WP will be under Newy-watch surviellance :yep :rollin.
Gawd I feel like Tezza - under such pressure even before a ball is kicked in anger :rollin
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Good Luck Newy! Leave the cop shops alone mate.
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Good Luck Newy! Leave the cop shops alone mate.
Well Newy's best mate has illustrated to him what not to do in public lol.
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Yeah Fev could probably write a book of what not to do.
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Local tops with Tigers
Berwick News
Marc McGowan
27th November 2008
FORMER Narre Warren footballer Chris Newman is hoping to match his junior success at AFL level after assuming Richmond’s captaincy last week.
The 26-year-old half-back flanker won a horde of junior premierships at the Magpies alongside fellow AFL stars Adam McPhee and Matthew Boyd.
But Newman, who has played 133 games for the Tigers, owns the dubious honour of playing the most AFL matches without competing in a final.
“It’s nothing to be proud of. I’m hoping to rectify that as quickly as I can and I think we’re in a really good position to do so,” the former Dandenong Stingray said.
“If we weren’t to play finals next year it would be a step backwards and we want to keep moving forward and show improvement each year.”
The captaincy highlight caps a big year for Newman that included a career-best fourth placing in the Tigers’ best-and-fairest award.
“It’s come at a good time because I think we have a good group of young blokes mixed with a good group of experienced blokes – it’s an exciting time,” he said.
“I always thought I was in the running, but it was a shock in terms of looking back to when I first started.
“I never imagined I’d be captain, but as time went on I was in the right place at the right time and fortunately I got the nod.”
Richmond selected Newman with the 55th pick in the 2000 AFL national draft – the same draft that produced the likes of Nick Riewoldt, Alan Didak and Daniel Kerr.
http://www.starnewsgroup.com.au/story/67232
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The Newman at Richmond
Emma Quayle | December 21, 2008
CHRIS Newman is quietly finding his feet as Richmond captain and working on making it an appointment to remember.
CHRIS Newman wasn't the reason more than 50 reporters crammed inside the Richmond Social Club last Wednesday morning.
In his seven-year career, he has fronted few press conferences, let alone stared down 16 television cameras and a dozen more photographers. But as he sat next to Ben Cousins, and heard his new teammate discuss his drug addiction, hamstring and desire to start over, Newman felt a little overwhelmed by the lights, the faces and the questions. His first few weeks as the club's new captain have not exactly been quiet ones.
"I've never actually seen a room filled with so many cameras and so many media," he said.
"To be sitting in there in front of everyone, I got a bit daunted by it at the start. I was looking around the room and I wasn't too sure what I was doing.
"The whole week had the potential to be overwhelming, but the club's really looked after me and, even on Wednesday all of the attention was on another guy and I was really just there as support, to be there with him. And it wasn't too bad in the end. I only had to answer a couple of questions, so there wasn't too much pressure. I wasn't too dazed by the whole thing."
Support is something Newman has a habit of providing, without too much contemplation. The 26-year-old grew up in Narre Warren, where his neighbour was Brendan Fevola. Their homes were being built at the same time, and the best mates met when Fevola tapped Newman on the shoulder and asked if he wanted to play tiggy.
Newman liked Fevola, and still does, because he was a generous, funny person able to lighten up sombre situations.
"He made sure I wasn't too serious all the time," he said.
"He got me in some trouble now and then, but he was a funny kid. He never used to clean his room up and he'd always be in his pyjamas and in trouble by 5pm because of it. He was always in trouble, but our families were really close and (his house) was basically like a second home for me."
For Fevola, Newman was an honest friend - in the sense that he could never tell a lie and that you always knew what he thought and where you stood with him.
"With Chris, everything he did was honest," Fevola said. "We'd be out on the street playing cricket and you'd think you'd heard a nick but wouldn't be sure about it. He'd just say 'Yeah it's out, I nicked it.' He never did anything wrong and he's just an awesome friend to have. He's a really loyal sort of person; if you need him, then he's right there for you."
While Fevola grew up a Richmond supporter, Newman preferred navy blue. Each weekend, he and his older brother Shane, their aunt Joan, uncle Neville and grandmother would go and see Carlton play. The boys would be picked up at 8am, leave the car at Murrumbeena station, catch the train to Flinders Street and head out to Princes Park.
A lot of the time, they'd get there before the reserves ran out, and snack on Joan's shortbread while they waited. Often, they'd sit behind the goals, and Newman wound up wearing Stephen Silvagni's No. 1 on his back.
"They're good times to look back on now, and in the end it was probably a catalyst for me wanting to play," he said.
"I watched so much football it really made me want to play it."
Newman played his junior football at Beaconsfield. He was in the same sides as Adam McPhee and Matthew Boyd and "won a couple of flags", but was never, he insisted, "any sort of standout player" before Richmond drafted him at No. 55 in the 2000 draft.
It's only in the past couple of years - Newman's 2006 ended early because of a broken leg - that he has felt comfortable in the team, and with what he should be doing for it.
"It's been a gradual thing, maybe it's taken me too long," he said. "This year was probably the first year that I had that kind of deep understanding of what I was doing, and felt confident to take on games more. I feel like I've got that now."
Fevola doesn't buy the modesty. "I reckon his junior team played in seven premierships, maybe eight, and he was the captain every single year," he said. "He's too humble. He talks himself down too much."
Newman has another talent he doesn't advertise - he's a movie buff, who donates much of his money to the JB Hi-Fi DVD department and has a healthy collection at home in Port Melbourne, where former teammate Cam Howat is a roommate. He loves horror movies. "I used to have nightmares about Freddy Kreuger, but now I'm really into it."
And he stores away what he sees. "He knows every word to every movie, and he can act them out," said Fevola. "He does Eddie Murphy and he can regurgitate whole movies. It makes me laugh so much."
Newman was pleasantly surprised when he was named one of Kane Johnson's deputies last year, took some confidence from the fact his teammates had voted him into the position, and began to notice how well Johnson was able to manipulate the mood of his team each week.
"He just has this way of setting the scene, of being able to get everyone thinking and feeling a certain way, whether it's after a big loss or whatever," he said.
"He's just able to do the things he normally does, and do them in a way that everyone wants to follow. I've learnt so much from him, just about how being captain isn't really a pressure, it's more of a responsibility to manage and handle."
Still, there have been some big early decisions to help make. Newman, Johnson, Troy Simmonds and Nathan Brown all spoke with Cousins before the club resolved to recruit him last week. That, in itself, was interesting, as was being squeezed closer to the club's decision-makers, getting a sense of how they reached their decision.
"I guess I was just speaking on the players' behalf, and getting across how they felt, but I'm kind of looking forward to doing more of that," Newman said.
"It's just interesting, to see the ins and outs of why things get done."
He is also sorting out what doesn't need to happen. "It's been strange. For the first week after I got the job, I was kind of wandering around the changerooms not really knowing what to do with myself.
"I was thinking about it a ridiculous amount. I didn't even feel comfortable just sitting somewhere, sitting at the lockers. If I was sitting by myself, I'd think I should be getting up and doing some stuff, doing some captain stuff, but I've calmed down a bit now.
"Kane's been really good. He told me straight away not to panic, that nothing's really changed and that all I have to do is what I've done in the past. I lost my way there, but it was only for a few days.
"I'm really looking forward to next year, to the games coming around, and to feeling more comfortable with it all. It'll be a really proud time next year to run out in front of the boys with the No. 17 jumper on. I can't wait already."
http://www.realfooty.com.au/news/general/the-newman-at-richmond/2008/12/20/1229189952361.html?page=fullpage#contentSwap1
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Interesting that a number of clubs are now choosing lesser names as captain....
"I think we've moved away from the captain being the best player," Cripps said.
"You look at recent appointments: Collingwood with (Nick) Maxwell, (Tom) Harley at Geelong, (Chris) Newman at Richmond and (James) McDonald at Melbourne. They're obviously not their best players.
"One of the criteria is obviously to be able to have an influence on game day but it's become more than just being the best player -- a lot of other boxes need to be ticked.
"But it's more about consistency than talent. In terms of respect from the playing group, you earn just as much from competitiveness and consistency of effort as from being the most talented player."
http://www.news.com.au/heraldsun/sport/afl/story/0,26576,25021946-19742,00.html
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"But it's more about consistency than talent.
then HTF did Johnson get the gig ?
In terms of respect from the playing group, you earn just as much from competitiveness and consistency of effort as from being the most talented player."
Is that applicable when one is consistently BAD ?
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Interesting article on Newy's leadership abilities...
Leadership by Stealth
By Ben Broad
Mon 16 February, 2009
PETER Wickham can remember the day Richmond defender Chris Newman gritted his teeth and went back for another go.
Twelve months later he was appointed Tigers skipper. It was no surprise to Wickham, a director at Stealth Development.
Whether it be running flat-chat down a 40-metre cliff, taking charge and keeping a cool head or perhaps just possessing that quiet confidence that rubs off on others, Wickham and his team at Stealth are specialists in assessing what it takes not only to work together but also stand up and lead.
That’s why AFL coaches often ask Stealth for feedback after spending time with the team of leadership professionals.
Wickham said the company had worked with several clubs over the past few seasons including Geelong, Richmond and, most recently, Carlton.
Coaches have firm ideas which men are best-equipped to lead their teams but when it comes to locking in leadership choices, outsiders with no pre-conceived ideas can be of great assistance.
“They [coaches] see these players just on the training track and they don’t see them in the perspective that we do,” Wickham explained.
“We come from a different angle and you know they’re in a completely different environment, they don’t have their normal social networks or confidence that they normally would around a club.
“So we get a completely different look at them.”
Stealth takes footballers away from lush green ovals and locker rooms and dumps them in far different surroundings.
“We get them out in a challenging environment, usually out in the bush somewhere,” Wickham said.
“We take away all the home comforts, so there’s no senior football captain anymore; they’re all evenly-ranked from the most junior player to the most senior player.
“Then we give them tasks, in teams, which are both physically and mentally challenging.”
The real aim, Wickham said, was to gauge a player’s “ability to make critical and competent decisions in stressful situations”.
Some fare better than others, but it is the manner and the attitudes with which players attack the tasks that distinguishes whose report card makes for the best reading.
When working with Richmond ahead of the 2008 season, Wickham can distinctly recall Newman and the respect with which he was held by his teammates.
He said the Tigers defender had been rated in the top three leaders by all his peers and showed all the traits of a future captain.
“He displayed an aura of confidence in the most challenging physical situations, leading by example – which I believe is the number one trait a leader requires – but also driving and encouraging other players to perform beyond what they thought were their physical limits,” Wickham said.
“He was not one of the standout performers when it came to conquering the fear of heights but he never baulked at any task.
“I remember he ran face-first down a 40-metre cliff and he backed up for a second attempt even when you could tell it wasn’t quite his cup of tea.
“The players respond and feed off his positive attitude, his drive and his will to succeed.
“He’s a strong communicator and not afraid to tell the playing group when their performance is lacking or improvement is immediately required.”
http://afl.com.au/news/newsarticle/tabid/208/default.aspx?newsid=72156
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It would be re-miss of me not to make some comment regarding our new captain and his first game in the job ;D
I thought he played well, led from th front...well done :thumbsup
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Good to see your Chris Newman therapy is going well WP. ;D
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LOL DC ;D
It would be re-miss of me not to make some comment regarding our new captain and his first game in the job ;D
I thought he played well, led from th front...well done :thumbsup
.... MT picks himself up off the ground and bookmarks post for posterity..... :rollin
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.... MT picks himself up off the ground and bookmarks post for posterity..... :rollin
Dont' get too carried away there ... ;D
The season is Ohhhhhhhhhhh so young :thumbsup
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.... MT picks himself up off the ground and bookmarks post for posterity..... :rollin
Dont' get too carried away there ... ;D
The season is Ohhhhhhhhhhh so young :thumbsup
You've gotta believe ;D
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I thought he played well, led from th front...well done :thumbsup
That's odd because I thought he looked a little off and I am usually a massive fan.
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I thought he played well, led from th front...well done :thumbsup
That's odd because I thought he looked a little off and I am usually a massive fan.
Same Mr Magic. It must be backwards week. ;D
I thought his attack at the ball was textbook Newy but he was one of the more rusty players out on the field.
Not a bad game, just a little off.
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I thought he played well, led from th front...well done :thumbsup
That's odd because I thought he looked a little off and I am usually a massive fan.
Same Mr Magic. It must be backwards week. ;D
I thought his attack at the ball was textbook Newy but he was one of the more rusty players out on the field.
Not a bad game, just a little off.
Me three.
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Interesting I thought he stuck with his man a bit more and was therefore more accountable which took the edge of his normal attacking play.
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Interesting I thought he stuck with his man a bit more and was therefore more accountable which took the edge of his normal attacking play.
Probably why I liked his game. Because I like accountability in my defenders :P ;D
When he is "attacking" he sometimes turns it over a little too much, which then gives his opponent (eg the twirp Milne) an easy possession.
I can only recall 1 bad turnover and it didn't hurt us against Freo....
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I thought he played well, led from th front...well done :thumbsup
That's odd because I thought he looked a little off and I am usually a massive fan.
Same Mr Magic. It must be backwards week. ;D
I thought his attack at the ball was textbook Newy but he was one of the more rusty players out on the field.
Not a bad game, just a little off.
Me three.
Me four. He will be okay though.
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I thought he played well, led from th front...well done :thumbsup
That's odd because I thought he looked a little off and I am usually a massive fan.
A lttle off? Give him a go! First game as captain nerves? At least he didnt kick it backwards :lol
Same Mr Magic. It must be backwards week. ;D
I thought his attack at the ball was textbook Newy but he was one of the more rusty players out on the field.
Not a bad game, just a little off.
Me three.
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Chris Newman settles into new role
Jay Clark | March 08, 2009
CHRIS Newman doesn't pretend to be an enforcer, on or off the field.
Fluent, hard-working and selfless, yes, but harsh or intimidating? Definitely not.
How then, will the first-year captain respond when one of his young charges or senior teammates needs pulling into line?
Can the all-round good guy who is everyone's best friend at Punt Rd raise his voice and implement the discipline required of the team's number one?
The answer, of course, is a big yes.
No names, but Newman, 26, said he has passed that test, cracking the whip a couple of times this pre-season.
While satisfying the external expectations on a skipper, being stern from time to time has also importantly relieved some doubts of his own in recent months.
"I thought it might have been one of the challenges for me stepping into this role, but I'd rather be respected more than I'm liked," Newman said.
"If I have to pull someone into line then tough luck, it has to be like that at times.
"It's up to the players, too, and how they receive that feedback. But if you have to talk in a certain way sometimes, than so be it."
A determined glare punctuates his final sentence. There is substance to the captain's style.
But, then comes the relaxed, more familiar Newman smile, and the conversation resumes smoothly, like a couple of his neat kicks up the wing.
"I guess I've just tried to stay true to myself rather than try to be anyone else," he said.
"I'm in this role for a reason."
More so than anyone else at Richmond, Newman could be the accidental hero in what is a critically important season for a club starved of success for more than two decades.
The close-checking half-back didn't expect the captaincy to be thrust on him when Kane Johnson surprisingly gave it up, but he has relished every minute of it.
Even with all the hoop-la surrounding Ben Cousins's arrival, Graham Polak's inspirational comeback and the intense scrutiny that seems destined to follow the Tiges in 2009.
Under such a spotlight, Newman would be forgiven for screwing tight the lid, ensuring all and sundry keep their feet on the ground.
That is the safe, if not predictable way.
But Newman, in clearly contrasting terms, has encouraged his troops to "suck in" the excitement, hoping the good vibe translates into good performances on the field.
"There is a genuine enthusiasm around the club at the moment and I think there's nothing wrong with that," he said.
"It is good for the club to get excited - not get ahead of ourselves, of course - but just go with the momentum and enjoy it.
"Everything is fresh at the moment and everyone is feeling upbeat.
"If we can take that into the season and be optimistic about our chances - I don't see anything wrong with it as long as the boys are in check."
As captain, the "in check" part is largely Newman's responsibility, something he doesn't shrug.
His black and gold bandwagon is a solid $1.60 TAB Sportsbet chance to make the top-eight this season for the first time since 2001.
Who knows, more of the same red-hot, yet streaky form that we saw at the end of last season could propel them within reach of a first Grand Final berth since 1982.
On the other hand, though, they are only one or two serious injuries to a Matthew Richardson or a Brett Deledio away from a train-wreck.
Newman says he hasn't even considered finals.
Partly because he - like the bulk of the Richmond playing group - has never played in one.
"Everyone expects us to play finals but our focus is Round 1 at this stage and that's it," he said.
"We are in no position to get ahead of ourselves - we finished ninth last year.
"We are focused on improving in different areas, and if we can improve in certain areas then we will . . ."
WHILE the structure up forward is a work in progress around promising third-year youngster Jack Riewoldt, the key issue for Richmond this year is skill level.
With every opposition team likely to emulate Hawthorn's defensive zoning tactics and swoop on every missed target, it has become more important to take good care of the ball.
Which is why Tigers' coach Terry Wallace has made improving disposal by foot the theme of the club's pre-season.
Newman, the chief half-back rocket-launcher alongside veteran free-wheeler Joel Bowden, is thrilled with his troops' progress.
But will they hold their nerve when the real stuff begins and a maze of opponents confronts them between the two 50m arcs?
Newman thinks so.
"I know the difference having extra skill sessions throughout the pre-season has been really noticeable," he said.
"The guys are putting their hand up to do extra kicking and extra skills, whereas in the past the players have probably been a little bit forced to do that kind of stuff.
"But the players are really keen to learn and improve and over this summer I think we've trained as well I've sen the group train since I've been at the club.
"So we're confident in our ability."
Confident as a player, as a team, and vitally for Newman - as a captain.
http://www.news.com.au/heraldsun/sport/afl/story/0,26576,25153399-19742,00.html
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Reads good. Isn't it great to know that Ben Cousins is on the track with them when they are working on the skills. If they are real fotballers all they have to do is look at him to see how it is done.
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Newman pumped for opener
25/03/2009 10:38 AM
Paul Gough
New Richmond captain Chris Newman could hardly have asked for a more daunting debut in charge of the Tigers when he leads his team out against Carlton at the MCG in front of what could be the largest Round 1 crowd in AFL history on Thursday night.
http://sportal.com.au/afl-news-display/newman-pumped-up-67393
Captain's blog: It's on!
richmondfc.com.au
By Chris Newman 10:33 AM Wed 25 March, 2009
Finally!
Round one is here!
Another pre-season is under the belt; months of circle-work and running up the Anderson Street hill are done, and it’s time for the real stuff.
I think everyone’s always excited for round one games, the players more than most.
Everyone licks their lips and looks forward to round one. It’s something you’ve focused on since you stopped the previous year.
With a sell-out crowd predicted for the MCG, we’re also excited to be able to get that experience of playing in front of a big crowd. Because the more times we can do it, the better it is for us.
It’s great practice because when we play in finals games they’re going to be in that type of atmosphere.
While it might seem strange to footy fans, the whole “Cousins v Judd” thing is simply not an issue among the Richmond players.
We can understand the public’s interest in the two of them; they’ve got a long history together. But I know I haven’t thought about it once, and I don’t think that Cuzzy’s thinking of it, or Judd’s going to think about it either.
It’s just going to be another game.
More importantly, it’s going to be Ben’s first game for the club, which will be a huge honour for him and for whoever else is lucky enough to make the side.
And keep an eye out for Robbie Nahas, on our rookie list. That he missed a portion of the pre-season through injury and was still be able to catch the eye of the coach and get a game in the NAB Cup was impressive.
He is very quick and his work rate and his forward pressure are great, which we need on our team.
He’s got a great ability to run you down from behind. You think you’ve got a couple of yards on him but his closing speed’s ridiculous.
He’s caught me a few times!
http://www.richmondfc.com.au/news/newsarticle/tabid/6301/newsid/73678/default.aspx
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Skipper Chris Newman passes the test
Mike Sheahan
Herald Sun February 13, 2010
CHRIS Newman enjoys and cherishes the captaincy at such a famous club, yet admits there have been testing times.
He still struggles to articulate the feelings that consumed him at the height of the internal problems last year that led to coach Terry Wallace's premature departure.
Consider the pain implicit in the following offering: "There were times there where, um . . . yeah, honestly, I thought that I . . . just trying to find the word here . . . there was probably a time that I probably thought that maybe I'm in over my head a little bit.
"I sort of doubted myself a tiny bit as captain. It was really lucky that I had the senior players that had been in my position around me. Kane Johnson was a huge influence, Wayne Campbell (assistant coach) was another.
"It was good to be able to go back to those guys and ask them questions about how they were feeling at different stages.
"It was something that I had to push through. Now I'm 100 per cent confident in the role.
"You can't help but take a lot of responsibility for the losses and you soul-search. I found myself laying in bed thinking, `Am I doing anything wrong? Do I need to be doing anything more, anything different?' "
As for Wallace, who appointed him captain last year, Newman said: "We parted ways on a good note. I don't think there was any respect lost there from either end."
He admitted, though, there had been little contact between them since.
"It's definitely something you have to move on from, something you have to learn from.
"There's probably things I look back on and I could do differently, but, throughout it, I'm honestly proud of the way I conducted myself."
http://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/afl/skipper-chris-newman-passes-the-test/story-e6frf9jf-1225829913507
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Bleeding for the cause: Richmond captain Chris Newman
Scott Gullan
Herald Sun
May 29, 2010
IT was an instinctive act, but one which sent a clear statement to the football world about Richmond captain Chris Newman.
When Newman grabbed his jumper and kissed it after kicking a crucial goal in the dying minutes of the Tigers' heart-wrenching loss to Hawthorn in Round 8, it gave an insight into the passion of the man who has the hardest job in football.
"Our jumper is what we are about," Newman said this week.
"It is what we play for and it stands for so much more than people realise. For us we hold the jumper up on a pedestal every opportunity we can because we realise it's important.
"To put that jumper on, we put them on all together before games, and it's just a special feeling the Richmond jumper. I sort of displayed that by grabbing it but that's the feeling of all the boys out there, we realise how special and privileged we are to be out there."
It would be understandable if Newman was frustrated. In nine years at Punt Rd he hasn't played in a final and in just his second year of captaincy he's already had to deal with more scandals than most clubs encounter in a decade.
"Challenging is probably the word," he says when asked to describe his time in charge.
"Despite everything not really going our way, it has been really enjoyable.
"I have really enjoyed the role and I think when you can see a future and you can see the development and progression that we are making it makes it a lot easier, even if we don't have the short-term success.
"I am 100 per cent confident that we are going to get there, the frustrating part is now."
Spend half an hour with Newman and it's hard not to come away a believer. Not that he's a salesman full of cliches. In fact, he's anything but.
The 28-year-old is quietly spoken but measured and deliberate about the Tigers. There's a hint of excitement there but the most obvious thing is the sense of pride and belief he has about the future.
It shows when he talks about the pain he feels every time they lose.
"After every game I really feel it," he said. "I'm pretty bad like that. I'm just not one of those guys who can let it go and sort of get in the showers and forget about it.
"I dwell on it, probably a little bit too much at times. I have to be careful how I take losses, as I take them hard no matter what the margin is.
"I get home and I'm up all night thinking about different scenarios. I guess being captain you sort of think, 'What could I be doing better, or what I could improve, what could I have done on game day or where do we go from here?' "
Those doubts are nothing like the ones he felt last year after replacing Kane Johnson as skipper and then being implicated in the sacking of coach Terry Wallace.
"There were doubts early on when I first got the job," he admits.
"It is sort of going into the unknown, so I didn't know how I was going to handle it and what I would be up for.
"I think that is natural, and I have spoken to a few of the other guys around the club who have been in my position; they said it's natural to feel like that so it was comforting to find out that's the initial reaction of blokes when they get in that situation.
"I am 100 per cent confident in my role now."
The biggest lesson he learned was not to try and be Jonathan Brown or Chris Judd, just continue to be the solid half-back flanker who has played 150-plus games without a lot of fanfare.
"Probably the biggest thing I have learnt, and it is fairly cliched and a lot of captains say it but it really is true, is you've got to be yourself," he said.
"You've got to realise what strengths you bring and what you already possess. When I initially got the job all I wanted to do was more, just do more, which isn't a bad thing but it wasn't me.
"So the more you can be yourself and the quicker you realise you are in that position for a reason, I think the better off you are."
The arrival of Damien Hardwick has helped Newman, given the new coach often went about his own career in a similarly understated way . He has urged his captain to help the players take a lot more ownership at Punt Rd.
"He made it pretty clear early on that he's 100 per cent supportive of me and that he wants the players to take ownership of the direction that we head," he said.
"He made that really clear from day one, while he is the coach and is the boss, in terms of training, game day and around the club he really wants the players to own that.
"He feels that is where our improvement is going to come from as at the end of the day it is the boys out there that are running the show."
Newman has seen previous attempts at resurrecting Richmond spectacularly crash and burn but already there is enough evidence, despite still being winless after nine rounds, for him to have no doubts this one is for real.
"I think we have a developing group that are all coming through together and playing together and the more we can do that, keep the same group the better it is," he said.
"You just get that feeling when you are around the same people for a period of time, you can see the improvement that is being made.
"I guess it is probably faith in the game plan and also our plan as a whole club.
"You can see little parts of it, I mean we worked really hard over the pre-season, we've only had one pre-season on it, but you see little parts of it coming into games and when we can do that over four quarters that is when we will become a better side.
"People are going to talk about (a winless season) and people are going to joke about where we are at this stage, but what can you do?
"You can't do anything, you just block all that stuff out because if you are in the place and around the playing group and everyone involved, we have got 100 per cent belief of where we are going."
The Tigers skipper points at Melbourne's rapid development this season as an example of how quickly things can turn.
"The key, though, is being able to keep young guns like Dustin Martin, Jack Riewoldt and Trent Cotchin away from the clutches of the the new clubs circling them with fat cheque books.
"The blueprint is there," Newman said. "We can see it, there are obviously still going to be guys coming in and out of the side, but we have got a really good core group that can fill all spots on the ground.
"See Melbourne now, they have really flourished from the development they've had, a lot of guys have really come through, developed quickly and surprised a few people.
"They stuck to their guns, worked hard, kept the same group coming through and then added a couple of guys into the mix that are really polished and they are having success straight away.
"I am really confident we can keep the same group together. I think you have to make sacrifices at times to keep the playing group together. Geelong and St Kilda have done the same thing and look what has happened to them.
"I think it is a matter of playing with each other and we think one day it will click and it will come pretty quick. The wheel will turn and it will turn pretty quick as long as we stick to what we are trying to implement."
Newman still draws on his own experience in his first year at the club in 2001 when talking about the hunger and drive he has to succeed.
"We had a squad that trained throughout the finals and I didn't make that," he says about the Danny Frawley-coached team which made that season's preliminary final.
"I didn't play at all that year, so I didn't expect to play in the finals, but I still remember being really disappointed that I wasn't around, I wasn't a part of it.
"The highest I have finished is ninth and it is frustrating. I guess that is the hunger that I try to draw on during games. I really want to play finals footy, I want a taste of it. But I not only want to play finals, I want to be in a successful team."
Of the current AFL footballers, he has played the most matches without a final. But his short-term aim is a simple one. He wants to sing the Richmond theme song alongside Hardwick after a win.
"We go in every week confident," Newman says about the Tigers' chances of upsetting Port Adelaide at AAMI Stadium today.
"Even though we haven't won a game, the competition is a lot closer than people realise from team to team.
"There is obviously a huge gap between the top teams at the moment but we're confident about winning games, and because we haven't won a game you could imagine how hungry we are to win and sing the song.
"That is something I can't wait to do. One of the best things about playing footy is that 10 minutes after you win and you sit down and reflect, you don't have to worry about anything really.
"You can have a laugh and you sing the song. I haven't sung the song with Damien yet and that is what I'm really keen to do."
http://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/afl/bleeding-for-the-cause-richmond-captain-chris-newman/story-e6frf9jf-1225872777001
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well done Newman :clapping :clapping :clapping
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I hope all his knockers are reading this.
It's this sort of passion that can hopefully change the clubs culture and filter to all new players that walk in the door.
Let's hope we can all sing the song today. :pray
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at the start of the game last week - Newman was v good
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at the start of the game last week - Newman was v good
BS he was good for the whole game
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Foxsports.com.au wants your input as we throw the spotlight on the game's most underrated players
By John Clark and Paul Pickering
FOX SPORTS
April 20, 2011 10:31AM
Every club has one; the bloke who gets the job done each weekend, but never quite wins over the so-called experts and general footy public.
They are the unsung heroes, the AFL’s most underrated.
And, on the back of a recent discussion between On The Couch panellists Gerard Healy, Mike Sheahan and Paul Roos, we thought it’s about time these understudies felt the warmth of the spotlight.
Who is your club's most underrated player? Or do you have a nomination for the list we couldn't write - the AFL's most overrated?
Roosy got the ball rolling by nominating the likes of Richmond ball-winner Nathan Foley and Demons onballer Nathan Jones, while Gerard reckons Collingwood defender Ben Johnson flies way under the radar.
Mike didn’t rate Geelong dasher James Kelly in his pre-season top 50, but admits he may have sold the Cat short.
So here’s who we think deserves more credit at your club. Have a read and have your say.
Richmond
Chris Newman: Underrated as a footballer and skipper, Newman has led the Tigers through treacherous times with class. In 2010, Newman was second at Richmond in kicks and rebounds from defensive 50, fourth in marks and averaged just under 20 touches per game. The defender has managed to maintain his form while captaining the club, a fine effort in a developing side.
http://www.foxsports.com.au/afl/afl-premiership/foxsportscomau-wants-your-input-as-we-throw-the-spotlight-on-the-games-most-underrated-players/story-e6frf3e3-1226041986747
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was outstanding,however;
although he has the ability to be an even better player than last week,his weaknesses are consistency and stupid turnovers by foot from the back line.
As captain he needs to be the ONE consistent player every week and inspire the rest.
He needs to make the decision and take it to the elite level.
It's up to him but he aint it yet.
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he's not tight enough as a defender for mine.... has always been my pet hate of Newman probably bc he has the ability to be a better lockdown player but just doesnt pay the job enough respect.
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he's not tight enough as a defender for mine.... has always been my pet hate of Newman probably bc he has the ability to be a better lockdown player but just doesnt pay the job enough respect.
The problem there lays in that we dont really know what the coaches ask him to do. He might be asked to play free and be the creator, we just dont know. Hardwick seems to be happy with him from what I can see.
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needs a captain's haircut, he's not 18 any more
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too much friggin' in the riggin', Cap'n.
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A shame Newy is 28 and he'll probably miss any ultimate success if and when it does come from our current young group as he deserves to be part of it. I've always been a fan but the captaincy IMO has made him a better footballer as well. One of our top 6.
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I didn't want to start a new thread about this but sheesh Newy was a bogan when he was a 9 year old kid with the long long hair and wearing a Collingwood jumper playing for his Narre Warren school :wallywink. I'm sure he's really glad Ch 10 found that old footage :nope.
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Explains how he could have been best mates with Fev. Sounds like he's gone through a hell of a change.
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Here's the video of Newy as a 9 year old [ go to 4.00 ]
http://one.com.au/video.htm?tags=show:name!Sports%20Tonight&movideo_m=107083 (http://one.com.au/video.htm?tags=show:name!Sports%20Tonight&movideo_m=107083)
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Former Richmond captain Kane Johnson praises Chris Newman's leadership
Glenn McFarlane
From: Sunday Herald Sun
May 15, 2011
CHRIS Newman's tough captaincy initiation in a crisis-ridden 2009 has made him the exceptional skipper that he is today, according to the man he replaced, Kane Johnson.
Newman took over the role after Johnson's retirement at the end of 2008 and had to endure a year of intense pressure on the club that included eight losses from the first nine games as well as the replacement of Terry Wallace as coach.
Johnson believes those experiences have helped to steel Newman to steer the young Richmond group on its upward trajectory under coach Damien Hardwick.
"To walk into a year like that as captain, I don't think anyone would have handled the situation any better than 'Newy' did," Johnson said ahead of Richmond's clash with the Western Bulldogs at Etihad Stadium.
"I know that it has made him the captain he is now.
"You have to go through those hard times to grow and learn what it means to be a captain of a football club. I am sure it wasn't easy. Anyone in his position would have struggled.
"All the reports coming out of the club now are of how well he is going as captain and how he has grown in stature in the role.
"I'm sure that it has had something to do with what he has gone through."
Johnson said Newman ranked highly among the other AFL captains, despite Greater Western Sydney coach Kevin Sheedy ranking him as No.13 on his list of the 2011 skippers in last week's Sunday Herald Sun.
"It's always hard to compare captains when you don't know what is going on at other clubs, but the way he (Newman) plays his footy is a real example," Johnson said.
"He is hard and tough, he directs traffic well and he uses the ball really well. It's great to see the young players doing so well, especially for a player like Chris. He went through hard times and it is good to get some reward for it."
Johnson said he was enjoying watching the Tiger revival this season - the club today seeks to make it four wins in succession.
"We always knew the talent was there, and speaking with the boys about the way Damien Hardwick is going about it, they just want to keep improving," he said.
"There is a long way to go. But wherever they finish this year is a bonus because as long as they keep taking steps in the right direction, I'm sure the improvement will keep coming."
Johnson believed the Richmond midfield, comprising the likes of Trent Cotchin and Dustin Martin, had the potential to be among the best within a few years.
"As young as they are, and as well as they are playing, you would have to say that they will be one of the better ones (midfields) going around soon," he said.
"I've enjoyed watching 'Cotch' this year. I had a bit to do with him because he lived at my house for a bit of time. He went through a tough time with the injuries, but now you can see that he is going to be an exceptional player.
"He does things that most players can't. And you can see what Dustin Martin has been able to do already. He is only 19, and is such an exciting player."
http://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/afl/former-richmond-captain-kane-johnson-praises-chris-newmans-leadership/story-e6frf9jf-1226055905007
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Stars return to their roots
Berwick Leader
by PAUL AMY
Australian Rules/Footy
17 May 11, 2011
(http://images.whereilive.com.au/images/uploads/2011/05/17/IBOLT_GG248460_4011595_resized.jpg)
Richmond captain Chris Newman with Narre Warren juniors last Wednesday. PICTURE: JANE OLLERENSHAW
TWO of Narre Warren Junior Football Club’s favourite sons have made triumphant returns to their old stomping ground.
Richmond captain Chris Newman and his Western Bulldogs counterpart Matthew Boyd were mobbed by a legion of starry-eyed youngsters when they visited Sweeney Reserve for the Magpies’ training last Wednesday night.
Club president Steve Darcy said the AFL stars’ return was the culmination of the club’s rebirth.
“We took over in November last year and the club was on its knees,” Darcy said.
“It almost had to fold, but the committee has worked tirelessly since November to get the club up and running again.
“We’ve got nearly 300 kids at the club and it’s great for them to see well known footballers who have come through here that they can aspire to be like.”
Newman, Boyd and Fremantle half back Adam McPhee came through the junior ranks together and won a remarkable seven straight flags, losing just one game in that period.
Newman, who started at age six and had already clocked up 100 games by the time he was 11, told the Leader his return to the club was a humbling experience.
“This is the first time I’ve been back to the club, but seeing all these kids brings back memories of when I was running around,” Newman said.
“We had Boyd and McPhee, but it was a really talented team, even the ones who didn’t go on were really good players.” The club presented the two stars with framed Narre Warren Football Club jumpers as a token of their appreciation.
“The boys spent over two hours with our kids,” Darcy said.
“We presented them with the jumpers and they were rapt. Their mums were there and they were tearing up in the background.
“They spoke so well to the kids and no question was too hard to answer.”
Newman told the youngsters he was doing a coaching course and had designs on being a coach once he finished playing.
The club - which also boasts North Melbourne youngster Ryan Bastinac, Melbourne Demons midfielder Tom Scully and the enigmatic Brendan Fevola as former players - invited past parents and coaches to the night.
Steve Scerri, who coached the boys to three flags, said every player got a go. “We didn’t brag about it, but we knew the kids were good,” Scerri said.
“No one wanted to play Narre. We gave our kids encouragement and made sure everyone got a go. Even Matt, Adam and Chris started games on the bench.”
Rob Dowsett said the parents of the players had formed a special bond and still kept in touch.
“We still have a reunion once a year,” Dowsett said.
“It was just a special group of kids. I remember after the grand final wins we used to go to the Central Hotel in Beaconsfield for our version of mad Monday.
“We’d fill the jugs up with raspberry soft drink for the kids.”
Boyd and Newman took questions from kids on the ground, before running them through some drills.
Jamie, 11, said it was pretty cool to see AFL players at the club.
“I want to follow in their foot-steps,” he said.
Aaron, 11, said he was surprised the two stars started out at Narre Warren. Nadeesh, 11, said he wanted to see how far the AFL boys could kick.
Cody, 11, said he got his top signed.
The two captains squared off in the Bulldogs versus Tigers game at Etihad Stadium last Sunday.
http://berwick-leader.whereilive.com.au/sport/story/stars-return-to-their-roots/
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Newman told the youngsters he was doing a coaching course and had designs on being a coach once he finished playing.
good stuff :thumbsup
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Newy interviewed in the rooms after the game:
http://bigpondvideo.com/RichmondTV/356350/chris-newman-changerooms/
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'I've lost patience with the Tigers', Chris Newman says
Matt Windley
From: Herald Sun
July 02, 2011
CHRIS Newman admits he is getting impatient.
At 29, the Richmond skipper is adamant he has no plans to hang up his boots any time soon.
But the fact remains he is the longest-serving AFL player not to have played a finals game.
And time is running out.
"I probably am a little bit more impatient than others," Newman said this week.
"And that's probably just circumstance and how long I've been at the club for. But that's also just that I want to play in a finals game and to be a part of the finals atmosphere.
"I hear a lot of stories about the Tigers fans in finals games and I want to experience that.
"I just have to be patient. There's no doubt about that. We still have a long way to go."
ON MARCH 26, 2009, Richmond kicked off the season against Carlton at the MCG.
Ben Cousins had arrived at Punt Rd, Matthew Richardson finished third in the 2008 Brownlow Medal and club legend Kevin Sheedy said pre-season the Tigers could win the premiership.
Things were looking up and Newman, preparing for his first official game as captain, could see the light.
"We got excited, we really did," he said.
"I thought we were going somewhere, we still had some really mature players around playing at that stage, so we thought that we had a really good balance.
"There was a lot of hype - I don't think I've ever been involved in a game with as much hype around it as that Round 1 game with Carlton.
"It was a good feeling running out in front of a big crowd, and that was probably as close to a finals game as I think I've played.
"And then they really did pull our pants down on the big stage. It probably hurt us a little bit and it took us a while to recover from that and get back to playing some good footy, there's no doubt."
TWO AND A HALF seasons later the Tigers are again preparing to face the Blues on what is an equally big day for the club.
Richmond has dedicated its home game to the Fighting Tiger Fund, aimed at reducing the club's debt.
Its off-field resurgence in recent times has been matched by its replenishment on the field - only eight players who played on that March night remain for today's game at the MCG.
And while a more experienced team raised - but ultimately dashed - hopes back then, Newman insists this is no false dawn for the current group of Tiger cubs.
"This is completely different," he said. "It's a completely different team for one. I'd like to compare the teams and see the amount of players who have been turned over in that time.
"Everyone wants that line - that we're going to be playing finals this year.
"It still has to be week to week, though. We're in no position to be talking about playing finals - we haven't been there for about 10 years.
"But in saying that, it's certainly our goal and our aspiration and we feel like we're in a pretty good position at the moment.
"So, if this happens to be the year, then so be it, but the main thing is that we're definitely on the right path and I've got absolute faith in the playing group that we've got that we're good enough to be able to mix it with any side in the competition when we play at our best."
ONLY FOUR footballers have played 200 VFL/AFL games without featuring in a final.
Newman has played 188 matches, and will become the fifth member in that club early next season if the Tigers fail to make the top eight for a 10th consecutive year.
"It definitely hurts," he said.
"I guess I still have that burning desire to play in a finals game, as everyone does.
"I can see the light at the end of the tunnel now, the direction we're headed, and my belief in this club and the direction it's headed has never been as strong as it is. And I don't say that lightly. I look forward to what the future holds now."
That said, Newman won't be taking anything for granted.
"When you're young you're just that happy to be playing for your football club and you're just sure that finals will come.
"I remember being in a similar position, but as I'm getting older now it still hasn't come - I still haven't played in a finals game."
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FINAL COUNTDOWN
Most games without a final (current players)
Chris Newman (Rich) 188
Brett Deledio (Rich) 141
Shane Tuck (Rich) 134
Richard Tambling (Rich/Adel) 114
Andrew Krakouer (Rich/Coll) 113
THE 200 CLUB
MOST GAMES WITHOUT A FINAL
230 - Trevor Barker (StK)
224 - Geoff Cunningham (StK)
203 - Steven Smith (Melb)
200 - Ted Pool (Haw) 200
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188 - Chris Newman (Rich)
http://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/afl/ive-lost-patience-with-the-tigers-chris-newman-says/story-e6frf9jf-1226085873745
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How can they put 'I've lost patience with the Tigers' in the article's heading when he never once says those words? Horrible ethics and terrible journalism.
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Yep. Pathetic headline.
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Headline says - 'I've lost patience with the Tigers', Chris Newman says'
Newy actually says - "I just have to be patient..."
Way to go sub-editor :stupid. So true to form for that paper it's not surprising either ::)
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Who cares about the headline?
I lost patience with the tigers when we lost to Carlscum in 1982. :banghead
I still haven't got over it.
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Who cares about the headline?
I lost patience with the tigers when we lost to Carlscum in 1982. :banghead
I still haven't got over it.
:clapping
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Bumpage
CHRIS Newman's tough captaincy initiation in a crisis-ridden 2009 has made him the exceptional skipper that he is today, according to the man he replaced, Kane Johnson.
LMAO @ Getting a quote from the worst,most insipid leader the club has ever had.
Ok.let's discuss this,fellow posters.
What are your opinions on Chris as a captain?
IMO,He's a good ordinary footballer.
Whether he is a natural backman or not,it's where he's landed.
I can't recall many inspirational moments as a player but i guess of the group,he's the most level headed.
i'm not sure he has fully taken to the roll of Captain,it's like he took the job because word around "the club" was he would make a good one.
Would like to see him hand the reigns over to Cotch at the end of the year and concentrate on his game,ie
Offering some direction and confidence in the backline,not turning the ball over which he does ALL the time - it makes it hard to respect the guy as a footballer captaining the rfc
and finally CONSISTENTLY leading by example.
He's been playing footy long enough to be able to.
If I can feel his negative vibe coming off the field when he silently broods
I'm sure the players do...
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Interesting decision giving the captaincy to Cotchin.
I'm all for it but will it effect him, he's had his best year this year and would having the captaincy burden him to much. More media etc.
I certainly think Cotchin would be a better captain. But whether it's too soon I'm not sure.
Cotchin is our next captain by miles just a matter of when.
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He's the perfect age and has a whole career ahead of him.
Newman can't handle it
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In all honesty, Im not a fan period. Think he's been a bit of a cheat as a player tbh in the bowden, johnson etc mould.
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yeh,i was against Cotch becoming skipper this early as well but desperate times.......
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In all honesty, Im not a fan period. Think he's been a bit of a cheat as a player tbh in the bowden, johnson etc mould.
i respect that.lol
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I like Chris, he's a pretty calm influence
Not a great footballer but I think he does his job
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Cotch will be a great captain I think though and maybe time to think about handing over the reins soon.
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soz,reins :banghead
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Newman reminds a bit like Alan Border as the "reluctant captain".
Except he has half the talent and a tenth of his fight and tenacity
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Newman reminds a bit like Alan Border as the "reluctant captain".
Except he has half the talent and a tenth of his fight and tenacity
u cannot compare , border was a great leader captain and fighter, newman is a candidate for the ALP
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an upstanding young man, quality individual
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an upstanding young man, quality individual
Agreed BJ.
Talking about his actual "captaining" the rfc
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Give to Captaincy ASAP to Trent Cotchin!
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Newman reminds a bit like Alan Border as the "reluctant captain".
Except he has half the talent and a tenth of his fight and tenacity
u cannot compare , border was a great leader captain and fighter, newman is a candidate for the ALP
as long as he doesn't sink to becoming a simpering liberal scumbag then.
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Richmond captain Chris Newman ready to help in midfield
by: Michael Warner
From: Herald Sun
February 22, 2012
RICHMOND skipper Chris Newman will have bursts in the midfield this year as the Tigers try to bolster their versatility.
Newman's opportunities to vacate the backline will be limited, but he is keen to join Trent Cotchin, Dustin Martin, Nathan Foley and Brett Deledio in the engine room.
"I'm in pretty good shape and excited to launch into it - this is my 12th season and I'm feeling as fit as ever," Newman, 29, said at Richmond's community camp in Mildura.
"I'll roll through a similar sort of role in the back half and maybe into the midfield a little bit this year, which will be a good change for me.
"I've trained a little bit in the midfield and tried to work with a few of the structures, just in case I roll through there. It will be up to the coaching staff whether they want me to, but I'll certainly put my hand up if that's what's required.
"I just thought it was pretty important just to change the role up a little bit - it gets fairly hard being stuck in the back pocket all the time. I love going up there and playing in the midfield and trying to adjust to the different structures and get amongst it."
Richmond's kicking out duties will be shared by Newman, Bachar Houli, Martin, Deledio and Jake Batchelor.
"That's the beauty of the mix that we've got now - we're pretty versatile in who can kick out and who can rebound," Newman said. "We've got a lot of good kicks down there now.
"In the past we've probably struggled to clear the ball out of the defensive 50 - and (coach) Damien (Hardwick) liked me playing back there."
Newman is the longest-serving AFL player not to have played a final - 192 matches and counting - and Trevor Barker's record of 230 games without a final for St Kilda is fast approaching.
"It's obviously not a record that I want to achieve," Newman said. "There's a lot of Richmond players in the same boat and we're really keen to put that to bed."
Starting his fourth year as captain, Newman - out of contract at the end of next year - is determined to lead a Richmond revival.
"Even though I'm almost 30 years of age, I still feel like I've got a lot to give," he said.Asked about the contract status of Deledio and Hardwick, Newman said: "Obviously, Brett will sign in his own time. He's a huge part of what we are trying to achieve and our leadership group.
"He knows the respect that he's got around the place and I'm sure it will only be a matter of time before Brett makes a decision and signs up.
"And I've got all the confidence in the world that Damien Hardwick will ... be there for the success that is hopefully coming our way."
http://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/afl/richmond-captain-chris-newman-ready-to-help-in-midfield/story-e6frf9jf-1226277524678
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If it was going to happen it would've happened by now. Reckon Chris will again spend most of the year in defence.
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Agree, I can only see him rotating out of defence in more winnable games. And even then not for the longest time. The most important thing right now is for us to have a back 6 that gel 100% and our defensive depth to slot in seamlessly.
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Newy up in Sydney with the other captains for the AFL season launch ...
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what a pack of stuffs the afl are.
Spare no budget on the Harbour bridge promo shot.
FFS.
It looks as though a child photoshopped it
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The ABC news had a snippet on this and newman was being interviewd in the background. anyone catch this interview on a commercial channel?
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The ABC news had a snippet on this and newman was being interviewd in the background. anyone catch this interview on a commercial channel?
Ch7 showed a snippet - he just said pre-season is just that and different from the real stuff, Carlotn game going to be tough as they are good side..... everything we've heard before ;D
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cheers billy
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Captain my captain
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nice to see he's finally got a proper effing haircut FFS
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nice to see he's finally got a proper effing haircut FFS
And shaved for the occassion as well :rollin
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nice to see he's finally got a proper effing haircut FFS
And shaved for the occassion as well :rollin
Gestapo probably right onto that..
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shaving is overrated, of the facial variety that is ;D
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shaving is overrated, of the facial variety that is ;D
Gold :clapping
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shaving is overrated, of the facial variey that is ;D
Definitely singing off the same sheet of music here hey Al?
;D
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Richmond captain Chris Newman closing in on unwanted record
Sam Edmund
From: Herald Sun
March 26, 2012
IT'S the unwanted record that is taking on a life of its own.
And every time Chris Newman faces the media, he knows a reminder is likely.
The Richmond skipper is climbing the ladder of most games played without featuring in a final.
On the eve of his 12th season and a Round 1 blockbuster with Carlton, Newman sits sixth, with his 192 games, 38 behind St Kilda great Trevor Barker.
"I'm aware of it," Newman said. "I'm up there, there's no doubt about that.
"To be honest, I don't really care about (the record). I mean, definitely not playing finals the last 10 years has been challenging and frustrating at times. I'm really keen to get a taste of that, as everyone is."
Asked if he could see Barker in the distance, Newman said: "No, he's still a fair way off. Hopefully it doesn't come to that."
The harsh reality is that if Richmond does not make the eight this year, Newman will assume the infamous mantle next year.
However, he is genuinely optimistic the Tigers can advance into September for the first time since 2001.
"There's no doubt the list is a little bit more mature and over the last couple of years we've been developing and trying to blood some of the younger players," Newman said.
"We're in a really good position to really be able to challenge a lot of those teams in the eight. You just don't know until you start."
He said the re-signing of coach Damien Hardwick had given the side a perfect platform.
The leadership group was called into a room with chief executive Brendan Gale and president Gary March at Richmond's season launch and told Hardwick had signed the contract extension.
"There were smiles on a few faces and we were really happy and happy for him that he's got that security now and can just look forward to the future," Newman said.
"It's great. He really deserves it. He's put in a lot of hard work, along with everyone else around him in the last couple of years, and he deserves to see some of these young kids come through and mature and get some success around the place.
"The longer he's around our football club and our team, the better off we'll be."
Top-four fancy Carlton go into Thursday night's game after a winless pre-season and a string of injuries to key players, but Newman wasn't about to start using the word "vulnerable".
"They've got a really strong list," he said.
"There's no doubt that you can't look into pre-season form too much.
"A few of them won't be there and a few of them have got injuries, but I think they've got enough depth to cover those guys. They're going to be a really formidable opponent."
http://www.heraldsun.com.au/afl/more-news/richmond-captain-chris-newman-closing-in-on-unwanted-record/story-e6frf9jf-1226309636711
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:sleep This article again
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:sleep This article again
We cop the opposite to a compliment sandwich.
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:sleep This article again
Reporter 1: Any news at Tigerland?
Reporter 2: Nope.
Reporter 1: Ok time for a copy n paste
:lol
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Do they even report on other teams anymore?? :banghead
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Wait till we start winning. They'll have to re-name the paper the Herald Tiger.
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The Greenberg Grill: Chris Newman
By Tony Greenberg
richmondfc.com.au
Tue 27 Mar, 2012
On the eve of the 2012 season, Tony Greenberg goes head-to-head with Tiger captain Chris Newman . . .
Full Q&A here: http://www.richmondfc.com.au/news/newsarticle/tabid/6301/newsid/131542/default.aspx
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on a weekly basis.
This captaincy has been a non event and Ill go as far as saying that if
it contiinues this year,the club will either stay as bad as it is or go backwards.
Yep-thats right.
Leaders just cant be passengers and Chris,u r,
I remember only once in the last few years ,seeing him switch into fight mode in a way that inspired the team.
This is not even a bag-its reality.
Ladies?
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:thumbsup l'm seeing everything you are and agree. letting the team down at present. Still has that broken leg on his mind.
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In the end he is still a 28/29 Half Back Flanker and they are dime a dozen. He is struggling big time and I get the feeling he only has 2 years maybe 3 years tops left in the game.
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well then we should sack him years end..
Does nothing really.
Useless game he has,
Link up player in backline,shocking disposal at times,hell- i dont get it??
Indicative of many things at the ckub.
I remember when Wallace was sacked- Newman was like a wacko mute when it came to the media.
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i think the problem is we expect more but the facts are he is just a plodder.
it makes me laugh when he gets asked about Cotch taking over, his reply is normally he is not ready or im not ready to give it over just yet.
Someone should tell him Cotch has already passed him in every department so he should do the noble thing and step aside.
We need leaders who can win matches not plodders
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Cotch dont need the added preasure of Captain at present. Just let him enjoy him football.
Cotchin will be the captain when he holds our next premiership Cup aloft :thumbsup
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i think the problem is we expect more but the facts are he is just a plodder.
it makes me laugh when he gets asked about Cotch taking over, his reply is normally he is not ready or im not ready to give it over just yet.
Someone should tell him Cotch has already passed him in every department so he should do the noble thing and step aside.
We need leaders who can win matches not plodders
I agree. Newman is struggling and is kicking like Jackson at the minute.
Cotch is already the gameday captain he fights hard all game, leads by example and even when he's getting smashed by the opposition still comes out on top.
I saw him on channel 7 game day show on Sunday morning and he gave Jack a tongue in cheek slap about his form in the forward line this year. I reckon he half meant it and was letting everyone know that how Jack is playing at the moment is unacceptable.
Cotchin for captain asap.
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Deledio imho has shown he is up for the captaincy too.... He is different to Cotchin but just as important... Make them joint captains next year and Newman if he can't hit targets any more well its time to give it up... He has gone from being our best kick to a Jackson
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Actually, i am normally against the dual captaincy approach but I think Lids and Cotch would make a great combination. They would complement each other nicely I reckon. Not a bad idea, Username.
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i think the problem is we expect more but the facts are he is just a plodder.
it makes me laugh when he gets asked about Cotch taking over, his reply is normally he is not ready or im not ready to give it over just yet.
Someone should tell him Cotch has already passed him in every department so he should do the noble thing and step aside.
We need leaders who can win matches not plodders
stuffing A :thumbsup
Captaincy is overrated. Any bloke can go and toss a coin and say a few words before the game. Real leadership is shown on the field and Cotch is the best leader we have had in a long, long time. Seriously, the Chimp is going to drag our sorry asses over the line in quite a few games this year.
Newman is an okay player. Nothing more. Gets half his possesions kicking it to himself from full back and also getting handballs off blokes that can't kick (which is fair enough because we want the blokes who can kick with the ball in their hands). Not sure I have seen Chris put on a match winning performance for us by going and getting his own ball and putting us on his back like Richo, Chimp, Deledio, Knights, Brown etc have all done in the past. Solid player, nothing more. Hand the stuffing captaincy to Chimp ASAP.
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stuffen "chimp" lmao
best one ever
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I really wanted to start a thread like this but didn't want to be accused of being a serial bagger....but you are right to do so.
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What did John Kenedy famously say :huh
Don't think, just DO
Or something along those lines
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i never think,Willy dear.
Never....
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Love the Chimp :thumbsup
Newy has been the captain through dark and dirty times though :thumbsup
So im gonna ask since this is on the table now, when Newy injured himself and Chimp assumed leadership duties.. was it coincidental the boat was being steered in a different direction and we won a number of games and looked better on field, or was it.... end of season, no pressure on us, lets win a few and say we did our job and go on holidays?? :-\
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maybe he has more to offer the club from the
sideline?
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i never think,Willy dear.
Never....
:lol
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Newman is from an era where a half back flank had time to have a bounce, line up their target and spot them. This is no longer the case. He seems a bit confronted by this situation of having to instantly sum up and deliver in a quick moment, just before getting buried into the turf by a defensive forward.
He might be captain but he should not be immune to having something different done with him at training. He just doesn't seem to be coping with the frantic forward pressure this year. But I think he is good enough to overcome this.
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unfortunately hasnt been able to defend for yrs now. Opp sides have been playing through his opponent for a while, too much emphasis placed on making him the releaase player which also makes us predictable. Captain needs to get down and dirty - set the example
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Has definitely been a slow start to the year by Chris. Fortunately we're developing replacements..
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Had a bad game against the Dees. Out of form. Really want him to lift. Usually very good with his disposal but was not sharp on Saturday.
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IMO our worst captain in 30 years. Many times our previous leaders got us over the line. Sadly newman has never been able to do this and unless he pulls his finger out will become laughed at, as having most games without a finals appearance.
When it was time to deliver a captains goal today he failed again.
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Must be replaced by Deledio.
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IMO our worst captain in 30 years. Many times our previous leaders got us over the line. Sadly newman has never been able to do this and unless he pulls his finger out will become laughed at, as having most games without a finals appearance.
When it was time to deliver a captains goal today he failed again.
Forgetting Johnson Daniel. He was woeful.
Newman two shots at goal in the second. Either one could have been a captains goal one on the run and one a set shot. Could have been 11 or 16 points down at half time.
Coulda woulda shoulda. >:(
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I wouldn't be against Brett being captain.
Although I think Cotchin is our future leader, it may not happen.
Jimmy Bartel is as inspiring and natural leader as they come yet never captained the cats.
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I wouldn't be against Brett being captain.
Although I think Cotchin is our future leader, it may not happen.
Jimmy Bartel is as inspiring and natural leader as they come yet never captained the cats.
As much as I hate co-captains having Lids and Cotch sharing the duties may just be the right recipe for the RFC! :thumbsup
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The captain has returned to form just in time for his 200th and the Dreamtime game :thumbsup. Congrats Newy proving the doubters wrong ;D :clapping and let's hope the boys top of your major milestone with a win over the Bombers in front of 80k+.
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Yes, bloody oath, great job Chris... :clapping :clapping
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Part of the inspiration for our boys for our win on Saturday night.
Do it for the skipper Tigers. :thumbsup
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Good work, Chris.
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Big fan of Newy, both as a player and as a captain. :thumbsup
Well done on 200 games, i hope we win but if we don't it is still a remarkable achievement that many afl players don't get to experience!
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congrats Newy, make every post a winner from now on mate, you deserve it :thumbsup
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Good work, Chris.
Underrated post
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:thumbsup
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Good work, Chris.
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Good for him
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onya newy!
I really hope the team can come out and fire for you - from start to finish. You truly deserve a win for having the patience to stick with us.
The years of crap we supporters have put up with must be nothing compared to you witnessing it up close and personal.
It's time to repay our captain.
:thumbsup
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His form on Saturday was really good
Lets hope he plays a blinder and we win :gotigers
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Yep. Been very solid the last few weeks.
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he has his kicking foot back and the team must get behind him because he had a huge role in getting rid of wallet too, we can never forget that
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Well done Christopher, you"ve come along way from knocking round the streets of Narre Warren with Fev :clapping :clapping
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Played his best game of the season on Saturday up until then he'd been poor to average. great to see him kicking LONG
Congrats Newy
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Played his best game of the season on Saturday up until then he'd been poor to average. great to see him kicking LONG
Congrats Newy
Agree with this, as I've said before.
Glad he's found his form and looking foward to him leadin the team on saturday, hope they can get up and smash the bombres...
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It's his 200th this week, go and leave a message for the Captain and we will pass it on to him ...
http://www.richmondfc.com.au/chris%20newman%20200/tabid/19183/default.aspx
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Great to see that the footy show recognised Newies 200th.....NOT, wankers!!!
Congratulations to buddy playing his 150th and James kelly playing his 200thn and that was it.
Smash em tigers!! and carry Newy off the ground like a champ :gotigers
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Congrats skipper. 200 games of hard labour.
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:birthday skip
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Well done newy.
I miss cogs :(
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Great to see that the footy show recognised Newies 200th.....NOT, wankers!!!
Congratulations to buddy playing his 150th and James kelly playing his 200thn and that was it.
Smash em tigers!! and carry Newy off the ground like a champ :gotigers
I thought I heard something about it.
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Who is Newman?
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200-game milestone taking time to sink in for Richmond captain Chris Newman
Sam Edmund
From: Herald Sun
May 19, 2012
CHRIS Newman's journey to the here and now goes something like this.
He was a late bloomer who didn't think he would make it. He never thought he would captain a league side. He certainly didn't think he would play 200 games.
But the bloke from Narre Warren is about to tick off all three because beneath a humble, selfless exterior burns a fierce desire and a passion for a famous club he believes is now truly "knocking on the door".
We see it when he kisses the jumper after a goal, when he throws his mouthguard in disgust at the final siren and we're likely to see it if he pursues a coaching career with which he's starting to dabble.
"I'm not sure if I'm naturally a passionate player or it's just evolved over time through not having the success I would have wanted at this club," Newman told the Herald Sun.
"It builds and it's got to the point with the dummy spit the other week where it's just frustrating because you feel like you're making ground, but at the end of the day, you don't get the win and it counts for nothing. This club's been down for such a long time, I'm just passionate about getting it back to being one of the top-tier sides.
"Since I've been captain, we've had a real focus on playing for the jumper and having pride and respect for the jumper. There's been so many great players to have played for this club and I'm so rapt we're in a position now where we're not giving the jumper away, you've got to earn your spot and the jumper."
Newman, who turned 30 yesterday, played junior football with Adam McPhee and Matthew Boyd in a side that went undefeated for some eight years and won a staggering eight straight flags.
So outrageously dominant was the side that Newman left when he was 16 to "actually experience what it's like to lose". Sitting down this week at Punt Road Oval he laughs at the irony. "I often say I used up all my success as a junior. I'd definitely take it now," he said.
In the TAC Cup with Dandenong Stingrays, he overcame a slow start, but with all the flak Richmond has copped for draft choices gone wrong, Newman would prove a bargain pick at No.55 in 2000.
"I never thought I'd make it and I was a late bloomer in the under-18s. I feel like it was the same thing here (at Richmond)," he said.
"I was introverted and almost afraid to get the footy until my second year when Leon Cameron got hurt and was a late withdrawal and I got an opportunity. I was overawed, no doubt, and there was almost a fear of seeing if I could make the big stage."
He would do exactly that in 2005, playing every game before breaking his leg the following year in a nasty collision with Leon Davis on a wet day at the MCG.
"I really think I was fortunate. If I was going to have a major injury, I know it sounds stupid, but I would have preferred that to a knee," Newman said.
"That was a tough time. Nathan Brown did the same thing the year before and I instantly thought of that because I'd never really had an horrific injury like that before. But it was a clean break which healed quickly and I haven't felt it since."
He would recover brilliantly to thrive off half-back in 2007 and played even better again in 2008. But it was the pre-season of 2009 that catapulted Newman's career.
Then-coach Terry Wallace told him over lunch one afternoon that he was the man to take the captaincy from Kane Johnson and lead the Tigers forward.
"I don't know if I was uncomfortable with it, but because I still had a lot of older players around me at the time it didn't really sit right," he said.
"I felt a little insecure at the start ... when it got announced, I was really uncomfortable around the club. I thought I had to be constantly doing things. I didn't sit still, it was a bizarre feeling."
As it turned out, there wasn't an opportunity to sit still in a whirlwind first 12 months in the captaincy hot seat. There was the recruitment of Ben Cousins and the circus he attracted, and the messy departure of Wallace.
FORMER skipper and current assistant coach Wayne Campbell this week said: "You wouldn't get a more tumultuous 12 months as captain.
"It's just a lot easier to lead a club that's winning than losing, let alone losing a coach halfway through the year. I think he endeared himself to everyone the way he handled it. He was obviously upfront when he had to be, he was there for the players who were obviously hurting and he continued to play really good footy.
"Probably the measure of a captain and if it fits comfortably with them is if they become better players and he certainly has.
"He was a good player and he's become a better player since becoming captain and that doesn't always happen.
"When he first came into the club, if you had said this guy is going to be captain I would have been surprised. He did it the right way, though. When he came in he was quiet, he was respectful, he was diligent and he worked hard and you could tell that he could play."
Coach Damien Hardwick uses the term "spiritual leader".
"He's a guy who I've got enormous time for, even when I was a player at another club and a coach at another club, he's a guy I always thought would be a great fit for wherever I was and he's a guy that sums up what we're about," Hardwick said.
Newman's 200th AFL appearance against Essendon tonight has been somewhat overshadowed by the Dreamtime at the 'G focus, but that's just how he likes it.
The ultra-consistent, but somehow underrated, defender is happy to acknowledge that he ranks among the competition's low-profile leaders.
"That doesn't faze me one bit. I've never really sought any of that attention and nor do I deserve it," he said. "I know my place and know my role within the club and that's what I focus on. I guess I just don't sell newspapers, but that's fine with me."
Walking down the street represents its own challenges.
"I think kids these days are more confident and they'll say whatever they feel. I get a lot of the old: 'You're the worst captain in the AFL' and all that sort of stuff a fair bit. But I've had that ever since I started and I actually think it's quite funny now," he said.
LIKE the other significant moments in his career - making the AFL and becoming captain - the 200-game milestone is taking some time to sink in.
"I didn't really have any emotion until I went to the Tommy Hafey Club function last Friday. Although I wasn't officially a member of the 200 club, just signing the merchandise sitting next to Michael Roach I really felt a little bit uncomfortable in a way," he said.
"It just doesn't really sit well with me. I guess as I get older, the more it will probably sink in and I'll be extremely honoured but, at the moment, I'm not sure how I feel about it."
But he knows exactly how to feel about a Richmond side starting to show real signs of awakening.
"I used to come into these big games really worried about the emotion of the group and how they're going to react to it. This year, more than any, I've kind of sat back," Newman said.
"If it was quiet before a game, I'd think: 'Oh, the boys are a bit off today' or 'I should say something to get them up', but now it's just that calm feeling in the rooms. Everyone knows their role, there's a lot of focus and clarity ... there's no concern the boys won't be able to handle the occasion."
http://www.heraldsun.com.au/afl/game-milestone-taking-time-to-sink-in-for-richmond-captain-chris-newman/story-fn8libhb-1226360640335
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Richmond captain Chris Newman tries on coaching cap
Sam Edmund
From: Herald Sun
May 19, 2012
CHRIS Newman is coaching part-time at TAC Cup side Sandringham Dragons.
"I've got aspirations to possibly coach after I finish," Newman said.
"I'm doing some work placement at the moment just once a week, but anytime I want to go in and help the boys, they've been really good."
Newman's former teammate Justin Plapp, who also played for St Kilda in a 44-game AFL career, is Dragons coach.
"I'm not actually sure I want to be a coach, but I wanted some experience and to get a feel for it," Newman said.
"I'm more defensive, I think, from playing there the majority of my career. If I could get involved match day, I'd like to, but at the moment with the fixture, I can't."
http://www.heraldsun.com.au/afl/more-news/richmond-captain-chris-newman-tries-on-coaching-cap/story-e6frf9jf-1226360645890
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Thought it was a pretty average game by the skipper in his 200th
What did other people think?
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Thought it was a pretty average game by the skipper in his 200th
What did other people think?
Very average, really let himself and the club down, couldn't tackle, had no run, turned the ball over and has lost that penetrating kick he once had.. :-\....I am a big Newman fan but last night...not good.
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From today's Herald-Sun...
Newman put the Tigers' breakout win down to the club's "first full, four-quarter effort" for the season, ending a run of three narrow losses against flag contenders in the past six weeks.
"There have been patches in games when we've let it slip and teams have been able to score freely against us, (but yesterday) we didn't take the foot off the pedal ... , he said.
"It's good to point honourable losses behind us. You come to a point where a loss is a loss and they count for nothing, so we were aware that it gets us back in the hunt a little bit now."
Newman said Richmond had not despaired the season was slipping despite losses.
"We've been in a lot of games, so I haven't really felt that," he said. "Every game we've had our chances against quality opposition, but for one reason or another we haven't been able to get over the line.
"We definitely feel like we're still in the year, regardless of wins or losses."
Much has been made of Newman nearing the AFL record of late Saint Trevor Barker (230) for most matches without having played a final, but he was modest in what avoiding that mark would mean.
"It's not something I make a big deal of, but to play finals would mean a lot to a lot of people - Richmond supporters more so, I think.
"The last time we played finals was 2001, so it's a long time ago. They turn up every week and they deserve a bit of success and that's what we're hoping to bring."
http://www.heraldsun.com.au/afl/more-news/ivan-maric-stakes-his-claim-on-ruck/story-e6frf9jf-1226367861720
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I heard on SEN that Newman is considered to be one of the best captains in the AFL. Mind you, you hear a lot of things on SEN.
Watching Chris's game last week and for most of this year I think his form is way down on last year, his disposal is average and his decision making seems not to be in line with the teams new format. He seems to kick sideways and does not look comfortable going up the centre.
Is it time for Chris to be stepping aside?
HOWEVER, if Chris does not play who would be promoted to take his spot and would it mean DeLidio has to move to the backline again (definately not desirable)
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Why would Deledio need to go down back? You could easily just drop Newman this week and bring in Batch. Wouldn't happen in a million years but we wouldn't notice a big difference.
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Yep I am cool with that, I don't think we would miss anything and may gain something giving extra responsibilty to other players
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Lids down back.....PLEEEEEEASE......
FFS, I have been recommending that Lids goes into the centre for about 2 years, they finally move him there, he is in Brownlow form and you say put him in the back line again....bloody hell.
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Darren Gaspar
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Lids down back.....PLEEEEEEASE......
FFS, I have been recommending that Lids goes into the centre for about 2 years, they finally move him there, he is in Brownlow form and you say put him in the back line again....bloody hell.
Neva Said that Course we don't want Lids down back
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Darren Gaspar
POTY :lol
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Don't feed the troll please.
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Newy was great last night. People knock him because he's not captain who wins games off his own boot but his leadership stood out last night and the whole side is united and playing as one with great spirit and now a will to win even under enormous game pressure and growing expectations.
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facts are he is the general out there and just about an on field coach. he is a leader , may not be the best player but he is a leader
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great game by the captain last night, seemed to be in the right place at times, but still gives his opponant too much freedom.
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Thought he made one glaring error of judgment last night. Early in the last quarter the ball came to Morris on the HBF who went sideways to Newman on the other flank. Newman was about 20mts clear and had a golden opportunity to run straight through the centre before delivering a trademark 60mt kick down Riewoldt's throat (who would have been in a one on one). Instead, he stopped, waited and invited all the Saint's momentum and pressure back into their forward 50 before delivering the ball back to where it came from. The resultant pressure caused a turnover and goal and it was the start of a change of momentum at a critical part of the game. His actions were almost like telling his teammates I'm not sure, I'm not confident and I'm panicked and that sort of stuff from the captain can very quickly become contagious. Sent my voice into overdrive when I saw it.
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Newy was fantastic last night
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Yep great game, but most players did go pretty well!
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I thought he stood up at a few key points during the game last night. He will never get the votes but he is a solid calm presence generally. Thought the Saints captain was more of a whingeing rabble setting a bad example with poor on field displays than ours to be honest smokey.
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I thought he stood up at a few key points during the game last night. He will never get the votes but he is a solid calm presence generally. Thought the Saints captain was more of a whingeing rabble setting a bad example with poor on field displays than ours to be honest smokey.
Yeah, agree totally Owl. I just saw that one instance and it sent me nuts! Some would say I am that already. :-\
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i was going nuts with on that smokey. ;D
I live on 5 acres and i reckon the whole road would have heard me at times last night. perhaps in the future i better watch the footy inside ;D
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Would like to see him play tighter
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Saw the incident you speak of smokey but aside from that thought he was outstanding.
Best game this season & BOG for mine
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Newman BOG? Get off the drugs lady
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BOG what a joke. Jack all the way followed by Chimp.
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Opinions it's all about opinions isn't it?
You guys have yours I have mine
That's OK isn't it? ;D
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Thought he made one glaring error of judgment last night. Early in the last quarter the ball came to Morris on the HBF who went sideways to Newman on the other flank. Newman was about 20mts clear and had a golden opportunity to run straight through the centre before delivering a trademark 60mt kick down Riewoldt's throat (who would have been in a one on one). Instead, he stopped, waited and invited all the Saint's momentum and pressure back into their forward 50 before delivering the ball back to where it came from. The resultant pressure caused a turnover and goal and it was the start of a change of momentum at a critical part of the game. His actions were almost like telling his teammates I'm not sure, I'm not confident and I'm panicked and that sort of stuff from the captain can very quickly become contagious. Sent my voice into overdrive when I saw it.
yeh I it was a mindboggling decision by the captain, I lost it also when he stopped but his game was good and Hardwick reckons he's a playing coach for the boys.
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newman made one mistake so what lol
yes we all have opinions lol
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Thought he was fantastic last night. Clearly his best game of the season.
In games like this, this is where leadership is shown and last night he showed it in spades. :thumbsup
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Thought he made one glaring error of judgment last night. Early in the last quarter the ball came to Morris on the HBF who went sideways to Newman on the other flank. Newman was about 20mts clear and had a golden opportunity to run straight through the centre before delivering a trademark 60mt kick down Riewoldt's throat (who would have been in a one on one). Instead, he stopped, waited and invited all the Saint's momentum and pressure back into their forward 50 before delivering the ball back to where it came from. The resultant pressure caused a turnover and goal and it was the start of a change of momentum at a critical part of the game. His actions were almost like telling his teammates I'm not sure, I'm not confident and I'm panicked and that sort of stuff from the captain can very quickly become contagious. Sent my voice into overdrive when I saw it.
Yes I saw that as well and I was just as peeved. But in hindsight I recognise that he was under instruction to do that "hold things up a bit" and that is exactly what he did.
Apart from the above I saw him impose himself on the game more in the back half in the last quarter when we were going down the gurgler as a leader he stood up.
The "hold things up" strategy I believe nearly cost us the game. We should have been pushing on and scoring not stopping things.
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Thought he made one glaring error of judgment last night. Early in the last quarter the ball came to Morris on the HBF who went sideways to Newman on the other flank. Newman was about 20mts clear and had a golden opportunity to run straight through the centre before delivering a trademark 60mt kick down Riewoldt's throat (who would have been in a one on one). Instead, he stopped, waited and invited all the Saint's momentum and pressure back into their forward 50 before delivering the ball back to where it came from. The resultant pressure caused a turnover and goal and it was the start of a change of momentum at a critical part of the game. His actions were almost like telling his teammates I'm not sure, I'm not confident and I'm panicked and that sort of stuff from the captain can very quickly become contagious. Sent my voice into overdrive when I saw it.
Yes I saw that as well and I was just as peeved. But in hindsight I recognise that he was under instruction to do that "hold things up a bit" and that is exactly what he did.
Apart from the above I saw him impose himself on the game more in the back half in the last quarter when we were going down the gurgler as a leader he stood up.
The "hold things up" strategy I believe nearly cost us the game. We should have been pushing on and scoring not stopping things.
Yeah, agree also RRJ, I thought he did stand up when it counted and he played well, I was just highlighting what I thought was a glaring (and potentially game-changing) error.
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Best game this season & BOG for mine
??? Based on.....?
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I think hes been better in a couple of games this year and didnt think he had much impact last night let alone bog ;D
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Best game this season & BOG for mine
??? Based on.....?
Based on what I saw and more importantly heard from over the fence giving instructions/directions super impressive leadership wise last night
Just my opinion ;D
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Easily in our top 5 last night
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Would have him in our top 10, not 5.
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All about opinions ;D :cheers :thumbsup
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Chris is still our captain and one of our better players....Just think that with the inclusion of morris ,batch ,Dea,and Houli he seems lost at times to define what his role actually is.Last night he played the loose man at times and did very well
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He really stood up last night, i was sitting in the Saints cheer squad and it was late in the last qtr and Newy was going to run for a spell. Batch was running off also and only one of them could go. Newy sent Batch off and took a few deep breaths and dug deep and played the rest of the qtr out.
That was a great effort last night and probably went under the radar.
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Thought he made one glaring error of judgment last night. Early in the last quarter the ball came to Morris on the HBF who went sideways to Newman on the other flank. Newman was about 20mts clear and had a golden opportunity to run straight through the centre before delivering a trademark 60mt kick down Riewoldt's throat (who would have been in a one on one). Instead, he stopped, waited and invited all the Saint's momentum and pressure back into their forward 50 before delivering the ball back to where it came from. The resultant pressure caused a turnover and goal and it was the start of a change of momentum at a critical part of the game. His actions were almost like telling his teammates I'm not sure, I'm not confident and I'm panicked and that sort of stuff from the captain can very quickly become contagious. Sent my voice into overdrive when I saw it.
In the interests of fairness I need to correct an error in my original post. The turnover didn't cause a goal, it was only a point to Milne from a set shot but that doesn't change my opinion of Newman's play.
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Chris is still our captain and one of our better players....Just think that with the inclusion of morris ,batch ,Dea,and Houli he seems lost at times to define what his role actually is.Last night he played the loose man at times and did very well
Concur :thumbsup
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Thought he made one glaring error of judgment last night. Early in the last quarter the ball came to Morris on the HBF who went sideways to Newman on the other flank. Newman was about 20mts clear and had a golden opportunity to run straight through the centre before delivering a trademark 60mt kick down Riewoldt's throat (who would have been in a one on one). Instead, he stopped, waited and invited all the Saint's momentum and pressure back into their forward 50 before delivering the ball back to where it came from. The resultant pressure caused a turnover and goal and it was the start of a change of momentum at a critical part of the game. His actions were almost like telling his teammates I'm not sure, I'm not confident and I'm panicked and that sort of stuff from the captain can very quickly become contagious. Sent my voice into overdrive when I saw it.
It seems he has the memory of our victory over Adelaide when we went into slow down mode. A wonderful Wallace innovation. When newy slowed down we lost impetus. Next time I want us to bury them as we did against Hawthorn. What is the point of slowing the play down when we have the flow. It just allows the opposition in and we have seen how that goes.
In the interests of fairness I need to correct an error in my original post. The turnover didn't cause a goal, it was only a point to Milne from a set shot but that doesn't change my opinion of Newman's play.
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Thought he played a captain's game against the saints. Played well aginst the Hawks as well. Hope he continues to play well for rest of year. Suits him being loose in the backline. Was very disciplined on Friday
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With
- rance/griff/grimes
- batch/dea/morris/houli
We have the cattle to play lock down defenders roles. No reason newy cant play as the loose man.
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Newman a captain-coach
richmondfc.com.au
Wed 06 Jun, 2012
Richmond captain Chris Newman has taken on an unofficial playing-coaching role within the Tigers’ line-up, according to the Club’s senior coach Damien Hardwick.
The unassuming Newman, who recently reached league football’s 200-game milestone, is highly regarded by Hardwick for his astute football brain and leadership qualities.
“Unless you’re within our four walls, you wouldn’t know the impact he (Newman) has had on our playing group,” Hardwick said on SEN.
“His leadership, on and off the field, is outstanding.
“He’s a great character - one of those guys you love having around your footy club . . .
Read the whole article here: http://www.richmondfc.com.au/news/newsarticle/tabid/6301/newsid/137923/default.aspx
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Thought he made one glaring error of judgment last night. Early in the last quarter the ball came to Morris on the HBF who went sideways to Newman on the other flank. Newman was about 20mts clear and had a golden opportunity to run straight through the centre before delivering a trademark 60mt kick down Riewoldt's throat (who would have been in a one on one). Instead, he stopped, waited and invited all the Saint's momentum and pressure back into their forward 50 before delivering the ball back to where it came from. The resultant pressure caused a turnover and goal and it was the start of a change of momentum at a critical part of the game. His actions were almost like telling his teammates I'm not sure, I'm not confident and I'm panicked and that sort of stuff from the captain can very quickly become contagious. Sent my voice into overdrive when I saw it.
In the interests of fairness I need to correct an error in my original post. The turnover didn't cause a goal, it was only a point to Milne from a set shot but that doesn't change my opinion of Newman's play.
There was a Saints player guarding the centre square on his own as well as a spare man back on the 50m arc. Had Newman gone up the guts he would either have turned the ball over in a tackle or turned it over to the loose man in defense. All our players were manned up in front of him.
In the end the ball ended up back on the other wing for a stoppage closer to our F50 than Newman started. It then went inboard where Conca was caught and there was yet another stoppage. From there the Saints got the quick kick forward to Milne.
In the interests of fairness, hardly poor play from Newman.
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Thought he made one glaring error of judgment last night. Early in the last quarter the ball came to Morris on the HBF who went sideways to Newman on the other flank. Newman was about 20mts clear and had a golden opportunity to run straight through the centre before delivering a trademark 60mt kick down Riewoldt's throat (who would have been in a one on one). Instead, he stopped, waited and invited all the Saint's momentum and pressure back into their forward 50 before delivering the ball back to where it came from. The resultant pressure caused a turnover and goal and it was the start of a change of momentum at a critical part of the game. His actions were almost like telling his teammates I'm not sure, I'm not confident and I'm panicked and that sort of stuff from the captain can very quickly become contagious. Sent my voice into overdrive when I saw it.
In the interests of fairness I need to correct an error in my original post. The turnover didn't cause a goal, it was only a point to Milne from a set shot but that doesn't change my opinion of Newman's play.
There was a Saints player guarding the centre square on his own as well as a spare man back on the 50m arc. Had Newman gone up the guts he would either have turned the ball over in a tackle or turned it over to the loose man in defense. All our players were manned up in front of him.
In the end the ball ended up back on the other wing for a stoppage closer to our F50 than Newman started. It then went inboard where Conca was caught and there was yet another stoppage. From there the Saints got the quick kick forward to Milne.
In the interests of fairness, hardly poor play from Newman.
Disagree Gerks. Newman was on the back edge of the square and well clear enough to have run 20+ metres before delivering deep into our forward 50 with one of his long penetrating kicks. He would have either gone well over the head of the loose man (a common tactic to beat the press) or been able to isolate a one on one second option (Vickery springs to mind as the option) and in either case a better result given field position than where we ended up.
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watch the replay. just finished watching it twice.
if he kicks long he's kicking to a contest where % says the saints spare man cuts it off, he's perfectly set up to do so
if he tries to go for a run % says he'll come unstuck in the square, there is a man waiting for him and a man coming across to stop him from playing on
he sees that unfold before it can happen and pulls up then goes looking for another option
my only issue is he was a probably too slow in switching it
also, if you watch dimma's direct vid he talks about them playing offensively too quickly, so newy was doing what the coaches were asking and trying not to blaze away because the saints were set up for it and were coming back the other way too easily
harsh assessment if you ask me, considering it also took another 20 odd possessions and 2 stoppages after newy gets rid of it for the saints to turn it into a scoring opp
but you are entitled to your opinion ;D
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watch the replay. just finished watching it twice.
if he kicks long he's kicking to a contest where % says the saints spare man cuts it off, he's perfectly set up to do so
if he tries to go for a run % says he'll come unstuck in the square, there is a man waiting for him and a man coming across to stop him from playing on
he sees that unfold before it can happen and pulls up then goes looking for another option
my only issue is he was a probably too slow in switching it
also, if you watch dimma's direct vid he talks about them playing offensively too quickly, so newy was doing what the coaches were asking and trying not to blaze away because the saints were set up for it and were coming back the other way too easily
harsh assessment if you ask me, considering it also took another 20 odd possessions and 2 stoppages after newy gets rid of it for the saints to turn it into a scoring opp
but you are entitled to your opinion ;D
If he kicks long he kicks to a one on one and regardless of which one on one he kicks to I would think that those odds are ok given how our forward line was performing on the night. He had the run and stacks of space to run into the centre before he would have come under any pressure so I don't agree with you that the best (correct) option was to prop, stop and look around. If you look at the picture he would have easily made it to the Toyota logo and from there he would have been able to lob it very close to the square, taking any loose man on the 50 out of the equation. And the "loose man" was only loose in that he was leading his opponent to the ball by about 5mts, he wasn't a loose man without an opponent; a well placed kick or change of direction from his opponent would have seen the Richmond player on his own inside 50. Momentum in the play and the game was on our side and we needed to exploit that, not invite the Saints back into our faces.
(https://dl.dropbox.com/u/1590391/Screenshot%20from%202012-06-06%2021%3A26%3A54.png)
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watch the replay. just finished watching it twice.
if he kicks long he's kicking to a contest where % says the saints spare man cuts it off, he's perfectly set up to do so
if he tries to go for a run % says he'll come unstuck in the square, there is a man waiting for him and a man coming across to stop him from playing on
he sees that unfold before it can happen and pulls up then goes looking for another option
my only issue is he was a probably too slow in switching it
also, if you watch dimma's direct vid he talks about them playing offensively too quickly, so newy was doing what the coaches were asking and trying not to blaze away because the saints were set up for it and were coming back the other way too easily
harsh assessment if you ask me, considering it also took another 20 odd possessions and 2 stoppages after newy gets rid of it for the saints to turn it into a scoring opp
but you are entitled to your opinion ;D
If he kicks long he kicks to a one on one and regardless of which one on one he kicks to I would think that those odds are ok given how our forward line was performing on the night. He had the run and stacks of space to run into the centre before he would have come under any pressure so I don't agree with you that the best (correct) option was to prop, stop and look around. If you look at the picture he would have easily made it to the Toyota logo and from there he would have been able to lob it very close to the square, taking any loose man on the 50 out of the equation. And the "loose man" was only loose in that he was leading his opponent to the ball by about 5mts, he wasn't a loose man without an opponent; a well placed kick or change of direction from his opponent would have seen the Richmond player on his own inside 50. Momentum in the play and the game was on our side and we needed to exploit that, not invite the Saints back into our faces.
(https://dl.dropbox.com/u/1590391/Screenshot%20from%202012-06-06%2021%3A26%3A54.png)
Have looked at this photo twice and the loose man is not in frame. The two players just past the Toyota sign run towards Newman closing that space up. Watch it unfold twice. You may still not agree. The coach does.
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Barrett has ranked Newy as the 9th best captain in the AFL
Rating The Captains
1. Joel Selwood
2. Jobe Watson
3. Adam Goodes (Jarrad McVeigh)
4. Darren Glass
5. Chris Judd
6. Nick Riewoldt
7. Luke Hodge
8. Gary Ablett
9. Chris Newman
10. Matthew Pavlich
11. Nathan van Berlo (OK)
12. Jonathan Brown
13. Nick Maxwell
14. Matthew Boyd
15. Dom Cassisi
16. Andrew Swallow
17. Jack Trengove (Jack Grimes)
18. Callan Ward (Phil Davis, Luke Power)
http://www.afl.com.au/news/newsarticle/tabid/208/newsid/138311/default.aspx
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lol Nick Riewoldt
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Barrett has ranked Newy as the 9th best captain in the AFL
Rating The Captains
1. Joel Selwood
2. Jobe Watson
3. Adam Goodes (Jarrad McVeigh)
4. Darren Glass
5. Chris Judd
6. Nick Riewoldt
7. Luke Hodge
8. Gary Ablett
9. Chris Newman
10. Matthew Pavlich
11. Nathan van Berlo (OK)
12. Jonathan Brown
13. Nick Maxwell
14. Matthew Boyd
15. Dom Cassisi
16. Andrew Swallow
17. Jack Trengove (Jack Grimes)
18. Callan Ward (Phil Davis, Luke Power)
http://www.afl.com.au/news/newsarticle/tabid/208/newsid/138311/default.aspx
9th
r u stuffing joking ?
HARDY stuffen HAH !
Newman is a likeable guy but he fails at kick in,f not thru consistant turnovers by foot that result in major scores but the ridiculous amount of time he sucks in his decision making.If it is a planned tactic,then he fails at that too.
Our productivity is higher when others kick in.
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Yeah gee nice tongue in cheek there with ninth, stich my sides up now Barret, they be split with your prep school / weather man comedy
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I know the ball was in play but itbwas such a shame rfc didnt fight to protect the skippers honour.
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I agree with the extreme tops and bottoms. But the middle are just picked at random (except Newy at 9th hurr hurr). Ablett has to be either at the top or the bottom for starters. Either he's a ripper captain for carrying his team, or he's lousy because despite doing everything he can't get his team up in the clutch moments.
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Luke Hodge hasnt played a game.
Goodes has played 2 games.
Ablett is a winless captain.
All 3 are flying.
You knobhead Barrett,
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Was ordinary yesterday
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Was ordinary yesterday
I will go one step further I thought he was terrible
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Stinker.
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i reckon newys form is being affected because he dosnt have a regular posaition to call his own any more.you would thing someone with his experience would rise above that.anyway we are only a the half way mark,plenty of time to turn things round
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Yeah I thought he was awful too. Has been awful the last few weeks and for the most part this year also.
His best game was the St Kilda one and he has been ordinary for the rest of them.
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too slow in mind and body now....
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The back 6 is taking shape without him
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Morris is the engine room and the new general.
I think Newy knows he'll be lucky to play another season of solid footy.
I still feel his mature development suffered as a result of bestowed the captaincy
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if we had any clue we would remove the captaincy from his end of year, regardless if we play finals.
he needs to earn his spot and while is Captain he will get played.
You have to ask urself are we any different on field if he gets injured. I would say no. Like brackets said Morris is our new man down back
we have room for one of Houli or Newman and Houli wins
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i always felt he was reluctant at best about the job.
when i heard him say he learnt a lot off of Suga in regards to the captaincy,i almost
spewed.
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if we had any clue we would remove the captaincy from his end of year, regardless if we play finals.
he needs to earn his spot and while is Captain he will get played.
You have to ask urself are we any different on field if he gets injured. I would say no. Like brackets said Morris is our new man down back
we have room for one of Houli or Newman and Houli wins
WTF????
Daniel making sense.
What has the world come to?
:lol :cheers
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Would rather have Newman in a finals game than Houli. Can't believe how much poo Bowdo has copped only for a receiver like Houli to get talked up. If Houli was more than a decent player he'd get tagged off half back like Danyle Pearce, Heath Shaw etc do. Has a great work rate but he's not winning his own footy and he's certainly not played across HB for his defensive efforts. Have some dirty prick like Picken play on him and he'd go missing.
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Would rather have Newman in a finals game than Houli. Can't believe how much poo Bowdo has copped only for a receiver like Houli to get talked up. If Houli was more than a decent player he'd get tagged off half back like Danyle Pearce, Heath Shaw etc do. Has a great work rate but he's not winning his own footy and he's certainly not played across HB for his defensive efforts. Have some dirty prick like Picken play on him and he'd go missing.
Then watch Lids, Cotchin and Martin lead up to a 20 goal win. :whistle
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Reckon there's a few sides out there that would fancy having a player go head to head with Martin.
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Dea. Grimes. Batchelor.
Rance. Astbury/Griff. Morris.
Houli looks to be to a wing/outside
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Newman has been a serviceable captain at best and i think enough is enough
He should enjoy the next dozen games as I hope it's his last as captain, and one can only hope he spends more time at Coburg next year.
He is out of form and IMO is only getting a game cause we have no depth
We cannot play both Newman and Houli
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houlis defensive efforts were excellent today, newman on the otherhand...
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Newman has been a serviceable captain at best and i think enough is enough
He should enjoy the next dozen games as I hope it's his last as captain, and one can only hope he spends more time at Coburg next year.
He is out of form and IMO is only getting a game cause we have no depth
We cannot play both Newman and Houli
Agree we can't play them both Daniel. Thought both were average today and both had uncustomary poor disposal but at least Houli got a bit of the ball, Newman was very quiet.
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Newman has been a serviceable captain at best and i think enough is enough
He should enjoy the next dozen games as I hope it's his last as captain, and one can only hope he spends more time at Coburg next year.
He is out of form and IMO is only getting a game cause we have no depth
We cannot play both Newman and Houli
Agree we can't play them both Daniel. Thought both were average today and both had uncustomary poor disposal but at least Houli got a bit of the ball, Newman was very quiet.
Thought Houli did well today. Newman lacks certainty and direction. He looked very tired at the end of the game.
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Newman has been a serviceable captain at best and i think enough is enough
He should enjoy the next dozen games as I hope it's his last as captain, and one can only hope he spends more time at Coburg next year.
He is out of form and IMO is only getting a game cause we have no depth
We cannot play both Newman and Houli
Agree we can't play them both Daniel. Thought both were average today and both had uncustomary poor disposal but at least Houli got a bit of the ball, Newman was very quiet.
Thought Houli did well today. Newman lacks certainty and direction. He looked very tired at the end of the game.
What's he tired for? Must be all the directing and screaming I see him do every week.
Seen enough of him for good.
You have to ask yourself if he went down tomorrow would we miss him?
No
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Newman has been a serviceable captain at best and i think enough is enough
He should enjoy the next dozen games as I hope it's his last as captain, and one can only hope he spends more time at Coburg next year.
He is out of form and IMO is only getting a game cause we have no depth
We cannot play both Newman and Houli
Agree we can't play them both Daniel. Thought both were average today and both had uncustomary poor disposal but at least Houli got a bit of the ball, Newman was very quiet.
Thought Houli did well today. Newman lacks certainty and direction. He looked very tired at the end of the game.
What's he tired for? Must be all the directing and screaming I see him do every week.
Seen enough of him for good.
You have to ask yourself if he went down tomorrow would we miss him?
No
If we lost him tomorrow we would miss him big time! But on other hand if we had a list with no injurys I doubt we would miss him in the form that he is in at e moment ;D
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If we lost white or mcguane tomorrow we'd miss them ;D
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What about a move to the forward line? We have enough small backmen already.
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What about a move to the forward line? We have enough small backmen already.
He's clearly too slow to play and have impact anywhere. Even his kicking has lost penetration. Given he was prepared to sack a coach for under performance (or try to) he shouldn't be surprised to get the flick himself. The least he can do is stand down at the end of the year as captain. It embarrassing how far ahead cotch, lids and foley when fit were compared to him
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Not Newy's fault today his teammates upfield couldn't kick goals from 10-30m out :banghead. If we had kicked at goal like a professional AFL team should we would've won today by 10+ goals.
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Newy is struggling plain and simple.
Melbourne's first goal his error shoes this.
Can't kick and cant penetrate with his kicking and is struggling in general play.
Just doesn't have the same assuredness that I have seen in him in the past.
Captaincy will be Cotch's or Lids or both co-captains next year.
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Pretty harsh on Newman IMO.
Certainly a down year but I thought he was one of our best last week and was OK today.
I rate Newman alot better than Houli.
Captaincy wise who knows. As much as Cotchin looks to have everything that a captain should have, I have a feeling Lids will be captain next year. Let Chimp concentrate on becoming an elite player of the competetion and learn to deal with taggers before we slap the skipper tag on him aswell.
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Pretty harsh on Newman IMO.
Certainly a down year but I thought he was one of our best last week and was OK today.
I rate Newman alot better than Houli.
Captaincy wise who knows. As much as Cotchin looks to have everything that a captain should have, I have a feeling Lids will be captain next year. Let Chimp concentrate on becoming an elite player of the competetion and learn to deal with taggers before we slap the skipper tag on him aswell.
i think your confusing Cotch with Lids
Lids is the one who struggles with a hard tag.
Cotch will be fine and will be our next captain, without a shadow of a doubt.
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That's right Daniel. Oppositions coaches have already seen Cotchin as untaggable, so they shift the hard tag to Deledio (makes sense to try and shut us down on the outside anyway). Cotchin seems like the kind of bloke who will relish the captaincy and be even more remarkable.
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Newy on EMT on Fox at the moment with Fev.
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That's right Daniel. Oppositions coaches have already seen Cotchin as untaggable, so they shift the hard tag to Deledio (makes sense to try and shut us down on the outside anyway). Cotchin seems like the kind of bloke who will relish the captaincy and be even more remarkable.
Yep Cotch just busts a nut in hard on getting tagged.
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Newy on EMT on Fox at the moment with Fev.
Can you let us know what he talks about? Cheers 2 legged horse :thumbsupy
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It wasn't much. EMT doesn't talk too much footy. Was mostly about Fev (he was poo stirring Eddie about playing for Collingwood next year too :laugh: ) and the two of them (Fev and Newy) being good mates and growing up again. The only real footy stuff was Eddie talking to Newman about the captaincy early on in the dark Wallace days, and about Richmond looking like a real football club now, and Newman agreed saying the new training facilities are awesome.
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Thanks dwaino
Was eddie eating pork neck sandwhiches inbtween interviews? Or maybe beetroots?
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His chins were trying to gobble his face.
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does he have a busted hand?
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Newey has served his purpose that being a fill in mediocre captain for medicre teams
We've ow moved on from that and we need a chimpion captain for a champion team
Chimpion captain is Trent Chimp Cotchin
Newey has lost pace can't read the game anymore and his efforts of a tackle are substandard
Byebye Newey
Thanks for baby sitting
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Agree Cotch can not be tagged completely out of a game. Lids is susceptible to a tag. Newman is having a poor year. Agree he has lost alot of confidence. Was fumbling in the backline against Melbourne
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the disrespect in here is nauseating
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We need to let go and be professional in all facets of our game
I'm sorry we need to get out of the 30yr oblivion and have high profile people and players leading tithe club into the next ten seasons
It's. I disrespect to Newey it's called moving on and progressing
Rfc
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the disrespect in here is nauseating
yep for the Captain to spoken about
in this manner is disrespectful. :banghead
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the disrespect in here is nauseating
yep for the Captain to spoken about
in this manner is disrespectful. :banghead
Agree :thumbsup some of these disrespectfuls should be stoned to death
I have no problem with jackson, edwards miller copping it in the past IF they have deserved, but no need for this dribble :banghead
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people r just disappointed
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Move on people we. We'd success and it starts from the top
He's the worst captain in the history of the club
He's never achieved anything
We. We need a class act leading our club
Like a Judd hodge a left
Look what happened to dicky vandenburg he got the boot and hawks win a flag when Sammy took over
Get out of the doldrums people and aim for success not 30 yrs depress
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8 posts on the field are enough.
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8 posts on the field are enough.
:laugh:
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get tough and fly out of Terry's ....
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8 posts on the field are enough.
:laugh:
32 when the Auskick kids and the Little League are having a trot at half time. :lol :rollin :lol
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Move on people we. We'd success and it starts from the top
He's the worst captain in the history of the club
He's never achieved anything
We. We need a class act leading our club
Like a Judd hodge a left
Look what happened to dicky vandenburg he got the boot and hawks win a flag when Sammy took over
Get out of the doldrums people and aim for success not 30 yrs depress
:gobdrop
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Move on people we. We'd success and it starts from the top
He's the worst captain in the history of the club
He's never achieved anything
We. We need a class act leading our club
Like a Judd hodge a left
Look what happened to dicky vandenburg he got the boot and hawks win a flag when Sammy took over
Get out of the doldrums people and aim for success not 30 yrs depress
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I need some of those drugs that 8 posts boy is on
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I'm moving on from Chris Oldman
I've said my bit and you all know my opinion of him
8 posts on Chris is plenty
Rfc
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How come no one is debating what he has to say? Why the abuse? Tell him why he's wrong about Greg.
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Move on people we. We'd success and it starts from the top
He's the worst captain in the history of the club
He's never achieved anything
We. We need a class act leading our club
Like a Judd hodge a left
Look what happened to dicky vandenburg he got the boot and hawks win a flag when Sammy took over
Get out of the doldrums people and aim for success not 30 yrs depress
Move over Ronnie! I have a new fave poster! :bow
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Move on people we. We'd success and it starts from the top
He's the worst captain in the history of the club
He's never achieved anything
We. We need a class act leading our club
Like a Judd hodge a left
Look what happened to dicky vandenburg he got the boot and hawks win a flag when Sammy took over
Get out of the doldrums people and aim for success not 30 yrs depress
Move over Ronnie! I have a new fave poster! :bow
Big Papa Bear?
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VIDEO: Newman interview in the rooms after the game ...
http://www.richmondfc.com.au/roar%20vision%20archive/tabid/11454/contentid/471569/default.aspx
or
http://bigpondvideo.com/RichmondTV/471569/In%20the%20rooms:%20Newman%20post%20match/
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I think we have a quality leader in Chris Newman - however it is time to hand over the reigns to the new breed - Cotchin, Martin & Deledio
But that does not mean we ditch Newman - whilst he has been heavily tagged, he stats show why in terms of his rankings in the stats
Newman Total Rank
Disposals 285 9
Marks 85 4
Frees Against 5 24
Tackles 39 12
Goals 2 2
CP 101 12
UP 170 11
DE% 78.95 8
Clangers 25 16
CM 12 5
i50 23 18
r50 41 3
1% 49 5
Bounces 12 6
Attitude A+
Courage A+
Team Spirit A+
Skill Level A
Injury A
I think the coaches are too reactive when players get tagged - meaning they wait 3 games before they do something about it thinking that the player is good enough to work through it. Well I think it's time to be pro-active and start Newman on the bench or sub. Takes the pressure off him and gives another the opportunity to develop in that half back spot. I think Newman os good enough to have an impact as a sub and also possibility in the forward line.
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This is an honest dig at Chris.
Why is it that,the only two times in the last 2 seasons that i can remember seeing
him display a genuine spite toward the opposition and full attack on the footy,
is after he appeared so fed up over one too many bad decisions,he would throw himself into anything to win the ball.
One was in the last qtr last week.
both times re-active
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dont wish to see him in our best 22 next year
Best thing i can remember him doing for many years was that goal in the last.
Richie Vanderberg x 2
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That's what I said two weeks ago he's a Richie VB the second
An expensive baby sitter
Wouldn't get a game in an open duck shooting weekend but gets a game for rfc and captains
Needs to be tapped on the shoulders or in Dimmas terms touched on the behind
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That's what I said two weeks ago he's a Richie VB the second
An expensive baby sitter
Wouldn't get a game in an open duck shooting weekend but gets a game for rfc and captains
Needs to be tapped on the shoulders or in Dimmas terms touched on the behind
:sleep
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That's what I said two weeks ago he's a Richie VB the second
An expensive baby sitter
Wouldn't get a game in an open duck shooting weekend but gets a game for rfc and captains
Needs to be tapped on the shoulders or in Dimmas terms touched on the behind
you got a thing touching the players bums. :shh
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Rfc has been displaying it for the last three years
It's a new Dimma thing
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i take it foreplay is not part of your after dark public toilet scene?
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Chris please have one decent bone in you and retire
Go out with some self respect pride and decency and let Chimp take over as king of the jungle
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Last year next year I reckon?
Cotch will be captain next year :bow
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Big Pappi
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Chris vb must retire its becoming an embarrassment having an invisible captain
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Had enough of Newman as player and captain
His about as inspirational as watching my wife make home made pasta with dolmio sauce
Goodbye
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its Cotch time
:dancing
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He does go missing when the acid is put on him in a game.Need's to breake the tag as teams know we like to start our play from the back with him.
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its Cotch time
:dancing
Absolutely. By the way, I think Cotch will appreciate your support ;)
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Gets goals kicked on him by Muppet every week
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Would like to see Newman up forward, decent shot for goal, good hands, and will pull Jack into line if he strays.
Sad to see his decline this year. Have been a Newman fan for a while.
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its Cotch time
:dancing
Absolutely. By the way, I think Cotch will appreciate your support ;)
:laugh:
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Newman has no influence on a game.
Struggling big time.
Needs to reinvent himself somewhere/ something otherwise he will be as valuable as McGuane or Jako on the list.
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Had enough of Newman as player and captain
His about as inspirational as watching my wife make home made pasta with dolmio sauce
Goodbye
:ROTFL
Get mamma to show her the ropes. She needs to be included in the next familia sugo bottigliato reunione. Then she won't have to buy the domio's.
I hope youre saving all your empty beer bottles as well.
In the case of Newman.... Once he's had a taste of the new sugo your wife's making he'll be playing brownlow medal footy.
C'mon buddy.. you need to lift! Your the wog don't forget.
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There is no place on the footy field to hide Oldman
Maybe dress her up in a green vest :scream
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Newman has no influence on a game.
Struggling big time.
Needs to reinvent himself somewhere/ something otherwise he will be as valuable as McGuane or Jako on the list.
he's a gap filler.
Done nothing really.....ever
I hear arguments from moronic commentators,that he's a champion.
Champions play well regardless.
Just look at Cotch
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Well spoken
Had no tackles and 8possessions against a b grade team
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Someone should tell Chris Newman that he should look to play for another club. Someone will cough up a pick just for his supposed leadership ability.
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whatsmore,the guy font give 100&
Fact.
Its apparent when he becomes disgruntled with decisions and decides to "go all in"
for a period of time.
WTF is going on down there???
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Who has a number 17 guernsey not all is lost Cotchin will be wearing it soon
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Not sure if I heard right but will be on channel 10 at 8:35
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Not sure if I heard right but will be on channel 10 at 8:35
Yep he's appearing on Before the Game tonight
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Did anyone watch before the game?? what was said? cheers :thumbsup
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He said Cloke is signed sealed delivered to the Tiges, Cotchin will be captain next year, and he fully endorses Terry Wallace for the Port job
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Did anyone watch before the game?? what was said? cheers :thumbsup
Not a whole lot. Can't remember much but he didn't seem as confident about making finals (do you blame him) as Nahas makes out. Said how the narrow loses cant be just luck since it happened to many times and its something they gotta work on. Rekon theyve improved this year and hope to keep the trend going. All i can remember
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lets hope he can keep the trend moving North as he watches on from Coburg with Phil Cleary
See you Chris, thanks for the good times
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He said Cloke is signed sealed delivered to the Tiges, Cotchin will be captain next year, and he fully endorses Terry Wallace for the Port job
Love it pickle!! :bow
Did anyone watch before the game?? what was said? cheers :thumbsup
Not a whole lot. Can't remember much but he didn't seem as confident about making finals (do you blame him) as Nahas makes out. Said how the narrow loses cant be just luck since it happened to many times and its something they gotta work on. Rekon theyve improved this year and hope to keep the trend going. All i can remember
Thanks mate :thumbsup
lets hope he can keep the trend moving North as he watches on from Coburg with Phil Cleary
See you Chris, thanks for the good times
hmm :-\
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Newman's form no concern for Tigers
Dejan Kalinic
Sportal
10/8/2012
Richmond coach Damien Hardwick has leapt to the defence of Chris Newman, saying he is unconcerned by his captain's low possession count.
Newman has struggled to find the ball in the past fortnight, unable to have a major impact against Carlton (nine disposals) and Brisbane (eight).
But Hardwick said the number of disposals Newman gathered was not an area of focus, preferring to hail the 30-year-old's leadership.
"He's been heavily tagged over the last month. His numbers have come down but the fact is his on-field leadership has been outstanding and something that you can't measure from a statistical point of view," Hardwick said on Friday.
"I've been very happy with the way he's gone about his footy. His leadership on and off the ground has been great and he's just getting the job done for us.
"The time will come when his possession count rises again but that's not something we're overly concerned about."
Read the full article atL http://www.sportal.com.au/afl-news-display/newmans-form-no-concern-for-tigers-192071
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But Hardwick said the number of disposals Newman gathered was not an area of focus
clearly.....
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But Hardwick said the number of disposals Newman gathered was not an area of focus
Nor is his defensive pressure based on the last 6-8 games..... :huh3
Just retire the bastard now
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No doubt the opposition clubs are focussing on shutting down our half-back attackers but I think age is also starting to catch up on Newy (if he's not carrying an injury we don't know about). He's 30 now remember. It looks like he may have lost 5m off his long kicks when long kicking was a strength of his. It might be time to move him out of defence and up forward as a defensive half-forward. More experience in there to organise and structure us up better might help stop the ball rebounding out of our forward line too easily costing us soft goals on the rebound. Newy's also a pretty good kick for goal normally.
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But Hardwick said the number of disposals Newman gathered was not an area of focus
Nor is his defensive pressure based on the last 6-8 games..... :huh3
Just retire the bastard now
6-8 years you mean...
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Some respect to the Captain would be nice
You're all acting like Danny Frawley
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But Hardwick said the number of disposals Newman gathered was not an area of focus
Nor is his defensive pressure based on the last 6-8 games..... :huh3
Just retire the bastard now
6-8 years you mean...
Big Tone with the one-two :clapping
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He said Cloke is signed sealed delivered to the Tiges, Cotchin will be captain next year, and he fully endorses Terry Wallace for the Port job
:lol
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Newman a shining example
richmondfc.com.au
Thu 06 Sep, 2012
Richmond coach Damien Hardwick has urged his players to follow the selfless example set by Chris Newman, as they strive to take the next significant step in their football journey at Tigerland.
“He has captained this Club with courage, commitment and an unrelenting desire to make things better,” Hardwick said.
“While he won’t have the (c) next to his name next year, he will remain an outstanding leader as part of this playing group until his career is finished.
“His decision to step down as captain, to me, says everything about his leadership. He is absolutely selfless. It has never been about Chris Newman, it has always been about what is best for the team.
Read the full article at: http://www.richmondfc.com.au/news/newsarticle/tabid/6301/newsid/147002/default.aspx
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Can't wait for a few of those captain goals to happen.
You know the 55-60m kicks that just about go through the middle all the time.
Go Newy.
What position would you like to see Newman play in the twilight of his AFL life?
Personally I would like to see the evolution of the back line without newman.
In a perfect world Newman could take over from Jackson as the defensive mid. Newly as a full time forward is a prospect of interest.
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Helping the kids at Coburg.
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Newman leaves a lasting legacy
By Adrian Ceddia
richmondfc.com.au
Monday, January 7, 2013
"He has captained this Club with courage, commitment and an unrelenting desire to make things better."
Damien Hardwick
Chris Newman won’t be remembered as being the most high-profile Richmond captain, but he will leave a legacy just as significant as those who have gone before him.
Newman led his teammates out as skipper for the last time, in Round 23 of the 2012 season, after four years at the helm.
He will continue on as a player with the Tigers, while Trent Cotchin takes the reigns as captain, chosen from an impressive group of candidates.
Read more and the full article at: http://www.richmondfc.com.au/news/2013-01-04/newman-leaves-a-lasting-legacy
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Bottom line is, he was never comfortable as the captain.
I don't feel he showed any great leadership qualities off the field, when Walace was approached by the players before he was terminated.
Seemed more like he was the only guy that politically fit the position.
His game deteriorated with the ensuing captaincy.
Perhaps this is what hardwick means by follow his(Newmans) "selflessness"
It would nice to se him finish his career as a better player over the 2013 season'
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The year he made the AA squad whilst captain was the best year of his career
Age got him not the burden of captaincy
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Can't say I'm really a fan of Chris
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Snip!
Stick to the topic and leave out the personal insults ppl!
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The year he made the AA squad whilst captain was the best year of his career
Age got him not the burden of captaincy
Ditto, caught up with him badly in 2012. Losing penetration in that kick as well which is his biggest asset.
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Age got him not the burden of captaincy
Agree. Good post.
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Should not play in the backline.
Grimes / Rance / Chaplin / Griffiths
Deledio / Morris / Bachelor / Dea / Helbig / Mcintosh / Vlastuin / Conca / Ellis / Houli
The defensive unit of six or seven should be allowed to develop together
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Should not play in the backline.
Grimes / Rance / Chaplin / Griffiths
Deledio / Morris / Bachelor / Dea / Helbig / Mcintosh / Vlastuin / Conca / Ellis / Houli
The defensive unit of six or seven should be allowed to develop together
Should play in the 2's :shh
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The year he made the AA squad whilst captain was the best year of his career
Age got him not the burden of captaincy
Ditto, caught up with him badly in 2012. Losing penetration in that kick as well which is his biggest asset.
Exactly
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He is now Chris... Oldman.
Yeeaaaaaahhhhh
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Age, u say?
I beg to differ.
Swans game.When he cracked it and actually put in a Captains game.
Wasn't too old that day...... or when he can be bothered PUSHING HIMSELF LIKE LEADERS DO.
Definitely the captaincy incapacitated his worth as a player.
Probably blamed himself for the team being so damn bad too.
I'm happy it we can put it down to the last lot of unprofessional alternative choices for a long time.
Like I've said.
Give us a great 2013 Chris - only then can we judge your captaincy as favorable.
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New role for Newman
By richmondfc.com.au
5:56pm AEDT Tuesday, February 19, 2013
Rock-solid Richmond defender Chris Newman is being reinvented as a midfielder in the twilight of his league career.
Newman, who resigned the Tigers’ captaincy at the end of last season, after four years in the role, has spent this pre-season preparing for a permanent place in the midfield throughout season 2013.
Richmond midfield coach Danny Daly believes the move will provide the 30-year-old veteran of 214 league games with a new lease of football life.
Read more and the full article here: http://www.richmondfc.com.au/news/2013-02-19/new-role-for-newman
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Not sure if he is good enough for the midfield TBH
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IMO would be more than capable to fill a role on the outside. Is a decent kick, plenty experience reading play, and could win more of his footy than Grigg. Maybe rotating with blokes like Grigg would make less of a noticeable difference when they come off for a spell.
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To be honest unless Newman can re invent himself in a new position his days in the yellow and black are numbered. I don't think he has the leg speed to pay off half back anymore and his kicking was certainly down last year from years gone by.
An inside mid role my be his gig, has a good size body and he's not shy to get in and under. It will be a very interesting year for our captain of old.......
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Not sure if he is good enough for the midfield TBH
> Jackson
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Not sure if he is good enough for the midfield TBH
> Jackson
no arguments there, though the last time newy played in the guts the blues beat us by 100pts
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he wasn't great in defense either
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If he goes backward at the same rate he did last year (from 2011 to 2012), then I wouldn't be surprised if this year was his last.
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Should not play in the backline.
Grimes / Rance / Chaplin / Griffiths
Deledio / Morris / Bachelor / Dea / Helbig / Mcintosh / Vlastuin / Conca / Ellis / Houli
The defensive unit of six or seven should be allowed to develop together
agree griffiths aside he really should play forward..
pace has been a problem for him down back for yrs. have always thought he would make a fantastic running mid. he just goes and goes.
200 plus games we cant afford to just throw that away i reckon people still underestimate just how important enough experience is. for me bench player rotating thru a wing.
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agree griffiths aside he really should play forward..
pace has been a problem for him down back for yrs. have always thought he would make a fantastic running mid. he just goes and goes.
200 plus games we cant afford to just throw that away i reckon people still underestimate just how important enough experience is. for me bench player rotating thru a wing.
Just hedging your bets there Claw :lol
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agree griffiths aside he really should play forward..
pace has been a problem for him down back for yrs. have always thought he would make a fantastic running mid. he just goes and goes.
200 plus games we cant afford to just throw that away i reckon people still underestimate just how important enough experience is. for me bench player rotating thru a wing.
Just hedging your bets there Claw :lol
na just my gramma. was saying griffiths should play forward. bentleigh named griffiths down back. that was the only bit i disagreed with.
newman should have been moved to the midfield yrs ago he wont get a starting 18 gig in front of deledio and grigg atm but he should spend significant time on the ground as part of rotations.
what would the average time on ground for a mid be anyway. 90minutes?
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Having the weight of captaincy off his shoulders and moving into more of a midfield role seems to have done Newy a favour. He looked to be moving freely again and he was one of our best last night.
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"Showing the forwards how it's done kicking all those goals takes it out of you! Boys are rehydrating quickly, it was a hot one out there today"
(http://yfrog.com/scaled/landing/576/pcxjlt.jpg)
http://twitter.yfrog.com/g0pcxjltj#jvxyPkdEBRhyGrtc.99
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Was V good yesterday. Like him pushi forward.
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This could be a fairly shrewd move by the tigers , he has the guile and rat cunning of a top flight HFF and boy he has a left hoof like an Exocet missile :shh...nice work if you can get it
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I'm really excited to see what he can do this season now that the shackles are off
30 goals from a hff/mid?? :shh
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Seems to have more penetration back in his kicking too.
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okay lets be really honest here. His days of senior footy are over. He has been borderline rubbish for near on 2 years now. Too slow for our game.
If Newman is in our best 22 at the minute then we might as well be playing with a man down.
The output we get from him can very easily be obtained from Vlast, Edwards( :banghead) or White.
He has a neat foot so let him play off a HFF and if that doesnt work send him to Coburg.
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He seems to be one who is escaping some criticism, he is only averaging 15 disposals a game and hasn't been doing much at all really.
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okay lets be really honest here. His days of senior footy are over. He has been borderline rubbish for near on 2 years now. Too slow for our game.
If Newman is in our best 22 at the minute then we might as well be playing with a man down.
The output we get from him can very easily be obtained from Vlast, Edwards( :banghead) or White.
He has a neat foot so let him play off a HFF and if that doesnt work send him to Coburg.
Thought he was really good last week agaist the Bulldogs best game in a very long time
But Saturday as a senior player and a leader (though without an official title of leader) he was terrible. No spark, no leadership and average skills
on top of that he looked really slow on the weekend. It's been a concern for a while but sadly it stands out like a beacon when we are up against the really top sides
daniel: Fair enough calll I reckon
And you are right wayne he is escaping the blow torch that others are facing
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okay lets be really honest here. His days of senior footy are over. He has been borderline rubbish for near on 2 years now. Too slow for our game.
If Newman is in our best 22 at the minute then we might as well be playing with a man down.
The output we get from him can very easily be obtained from Vlast, Edwards( :banghead) or White.
He has a neat foot so let him play off a HFF and if that doesnt work send him to Coburg.
Thought he was really good last week agaist the Bulldogs best game in a very long time
But Saturday as a senior player and a leader (though without an official title of leader) he was terrible. No spark, no leadership and average skills
on top of that he looked really slow on the weekend. It's been a concern for a while but sadly it stands out like a beacon when we are up against the really top sides
daniel: Fair enough calll I reckon
And you are right wayne he is escaping the blow torch that others are facing
yes exactly and there in lies the problem with Newman.
okay to good against spud teams like Buldogs and GWS but any other game goes missing.
We have carried this bloke for over 2 years
thanks for the service Newman but if you remain in the side you will be the longest serving player without a finals game.
IMo he should step aside from the senior team
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Chris has had a couple of lean years now and the decision making has been ordinary. He is slowing down but that's not unusual for a 30 year old man. If this form continues then a tap on the shoulder may be required although it can be very hard to accept. I hope he can turn things around.
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Is he still capable of playing the half back position? because this is where I see him best suited and not on the wing etc as discussed in the past.
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Is he still capable of playing the half back position? because this is where I see him best suited and not on the wing etc as discussed in the past.
I'm not sure to be honest, with his lack of speed these days I'm afraid the opposition will go through him to create run from wing to HF
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Is it possible for hime to play half forward role, simliar to what knights is doing but chris can drill those goals and try to be defensive and lock ball in? If it is his speed we need to look at options for him where speed is not the only factor. What that role is? Im not sure but some of you may have a better understanding and I think he is far too good to just send to the 2's.
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Is it possible for hime to play half forward role, simliar to what knights is doing but chris can drill those goals and try to be defensive and lock ball in? If it is his speed we need to look at options for him where speed is not the only factor. What that role is? Im not sure but some of you may have a better understanding and I think
he is far too good to just send to the 2's.
Far too good?
Which part leadership? Speed? Defensive pressure?
Lots of others have copped a whack for producing more than Newman in the last 2 years.
His days are over I'm afraid, Dimma needs to get tough
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Is it possible for hime to play half forward role, simliar to what knights is doing but chris can drill those goals and try to be defensive and lock ball in? If it is his speed we need to look at options for him where speed is not the only factor. What that role is? Im not sure but some of you may have a better understanding and I think
he is far too good to just send to the 2's.
Far too good?
Which part leadership? Speed? Defensive pressure?
Lots of others have copped a whack for producing more than Newman in the last 2 years.
His days are over I'm afraid, Dimma needs to get tough
So far off the mark it's not funny. Had to look twice at the poster, thought it was from Username or X it was so un-football educated.
Can tell you right now, if Ellis is getting a game, than Newy will play ill his 50.
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Is it possible for hime to play half forward role, simliar to what knights is doing but chris can drill those goals and try to be defensive and lock ball in? If it is his speed we need to look at options for him where speed is not the only factor. What that role is? Im not sure but some of you may have a better understanding and I think
he is far too good to just send to the 2's.
Far too good?
Which part leadership? Speed? Defensive pressure?
Lots of others have copped a whack for producing more than Newman in the last 2 years.
His days are over I'm afraid, Dimma needs to get tough
So far off the mark it's not funny. Had to look twice at the poster, thought it was from Username or X it was so un-football educated.
Can tell you right now, if Ellis is getting a game, than Newy will play ill his 50.
Perhaps what I shouldve said was he is too good an option to drop to the twos like that, god forbid tap him on the shoulder cos jees we have so many players that are ready to step up ::) its clear to me that if the club thought vlastuin etc were ready from rd 1 maybe chris, jackos spot etc may be endangered but obviously not. And until they are ready chris etc will get the gig unless he is woeful or injured. And yes his leadership counts for a lot imo
I may be wrong but id rather make conversation and possibly learn something from it rather than coming on here and burning the place and players down each week.
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Is it possible for hime to play half forward role, simliar to what knights is doing but chris can drill those goals and try to be defensive and lock ball in? If it is his speed we need to look at options for him where speed is not the only factor. What that role is? Im not sure but some of you may have a better understanding and I think
he is far too good to just send to the 2's.
Far too good?
Which part leadership? Speed? Defensive pressure?
Lots of others have copped a whack for producing more than Newman in the last 2 years.
His days are over I'm afraid, Dimma needs to get tough
So far off the mark it's not funny. Had to look twice at the poster, thought it was from Username or X it was so un-football educated.
Can tell you right now, if Ellis is getting a game, than Newy will play ill his 50.
Hahahaha il pay that
Maybe I went too far just didn't like his game, though he wasn't alone
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Is being left behind at present. Would Helbig offer more???
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Had a good game against the Dogs.
I think Chris would be better suited to a HFF or FP role.
He can just play his game and use his guile and experience.
If he gets 15 touches there that would be great.
I think he would be dangerous there and very effective.
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Is being left behind at present. Would Helbig offer more???
Helbig
Dea
Vlastuin
Batchelor.
However Newman is not the only one that should be critiqued.
Newman has been flaws but so do many of the maintains From this season; Grigg. Houli. Jackson. Pettard. King ...
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Had a good game against the Dogs.
I think Chris would be better suited to a HFF or FP role.
He can just play his game and use his guile and experience.
If he gets 15 touches there that would be great.
I think he would be dangerous there and very effective.
Agree. He has been inconsistent this year. I think he would offer something in the forwardline. He is a good mark
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Is it possible for hime to play half forward role, simliar to what knights is doing but chris can drill those goals and try to be defensive and lock ball in? If it is his speed we need to look at options for him where speed is not the only factor. What that role is? Im not sure but some of you may have a better understanding and I think
he is far too good to just send to the 2's.
Far too good?
Which part leadership? Speed? Defensive pressure?
Lots of others have copped a whack for producing more than Newman in the last 2 years.
His days are over I'm afraid, Dimma needs to get tough
So far off the mark it's not funny. Had to look twice at the poster, thought it was from Username or X it was so un-football educated.
Can tell you right now, if Ellis is getting a game, than Newy will play ill his 50.
Hahahaha il pay that
Maybe I went too far just didn't like his game, though he wasn't alone
:thumbsup
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Age catching up with him quickly, could see it last season as well. I don't mind him on the wing, thought he was alright against the Dogs there. Horrible game on the weekend, but wasn't alone.
I can't see this year being his last (in our starting team or not), would expect him to hang up the boots after 2014.
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Is being left behind at present. Would Helbig offer more???
I'd rather 15 disposals and game time into Helbig, than 15 disposals a game from Newman who isn't getting any younger.
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Is being left behind at present. Would Helbig offer more???
I'd rather 15 disposals and game time into Helbig, than 15 disposals a game from Newman who isn't getting any younger.
yep 100%
i cant understand why he isnt tried on the HFF. Its that position or Coburg IMO.
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Is being left behind at present. Would Helbig offer more???
I'd rather 15 disposals and game time into Helbig, than 15 disposals a game from Newman who isn't getting any younger.
Either is Helbig ;)
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Can tell you Newys mind and body is fresher than ever. And from what I have heard the coaching panel have been happy with what he has produced this year. If you guys think he is going to win games off his own boot than yes he has struggled this year. But if you just want him to play his roll in the side, like he has always tried to do, than maybe he is going ok.
What makes me laugh about people expectations on players is i think they expect every player to be a champion. Let's face it, there isn't many champions in each side, there are a few and the rest are roll players. And the better the roller players, the better the side. Take a look at Sydney.
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As one of the few leaders in the side he needs to have an impact in changing momentum and setting the tone, Tone
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As one of the few leaders in the side he needs to have an impact in changing momentum and setting the tone, Tone
I agree...he is one of the leaders but at the moment, from the stands at least, it doesnt show on the field.
Also, against the saints he missed the set shot for goal and a snap in the last quarter after Kingy (I think) handballed it to him at the top of the square.
Having said all that, for all we know, the coaches may be happy as larry with his game/output and this is all pure speculation.
I dare say that somone with Newys experience, they will not drop him in a hurry.
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He was laughing about that missed shot at half time :banghead >:(
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Just on the leadership thing
I actually watched a bit of the replay last night and noticed while the Captain was giving his pre-game in the huddle address Newy was standing on the outer of the huddle and not looking at the Captain, he was looking down the ground. Obviously, it caught my eye and my initial thought was "not a good look" especailly from a previous captain/leader
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Just on the leadership thing
I actually watched a bit of the replay last night and noticed while the Captain was giving his pre-game in the huddle address Newy was standing on the outer of the huddle and not looking at the Captain, he was looking down the ground. Obviously, it caught my eye and my initial thought was "not a good look" especailly from a previous captain/leader
Had to take a look at what you were talking about- OMG! "standing on the outer" Come on WP. Are you serious! I am speechless if you have a problem with that. Jack no good either? Lighten up man. Do you seriously think DH would have a problem with that? The world's turned mad!
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Just on the leadership thing
I actually watched a bit of the replay last night and noticed while the Captain was giving his pre-game in the huddle address Newy was standing on the outer of the huddle and not looking at the Captain, he was looking down the ground. Obviously, it caught my eye and my initial thought was "not a good look" especailly from a previous captain/leader
Had to take a look at what you were talking about- OMG! "standing on the outer" Come on WP. Are you serious! I am speechless if you have a problem with that. Jack no good either? Lighten up man. Do you seriously think DH would have a problem with that? The world's turned mad!
Re-read my entire comment big tone. Don't highlight only part of it
I don't give stuff that he was on the outer of the huddle.
The bit that didnt look good was the fact he wasn't looking at the captain while Cotchin was speaking to the team. That was my point.
Guarantee you if if was another player and highlighted my the media folks would jump all over it.
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He wasn't looking at Chimp because being on the outer all he could see were bloke's backs
Could you discern if he was listening?
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What makes me laugh about people expectations on players is i think they expect every player to be a champion. Let's face it, there isn't many champions in each side, there are a few and the rest are roll players. And the better the roller players, the better the side. Take a look at Sydney.
That's an incredible statement considering your comments on Ellis, especially as one player is a seasoned veteran who has no impact on a game and the other a second year player.
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Just on the leadership thing
I actually watched a bit of the replay last night and noticed while the Captain was giving his pre-game in the huddle address Newy was standing on the outer of the huddle and not looking at the Captain, he was looking down the ground. Obviously, it caught my eye and my initial thought was "not a good look" especailly from a previous captain/leader
Had to take a look at what you were talking about- OMG! "standing on the outer" Come on WP. Are you serious! I am speechless if you have a problem with that. Jack no good either? Lighten up man. Do you seriously think DH would have a problem with that? The world's turned mad!
Re-read my entire comment big tone. Don't highlight only part of it
I don't give stuff that he was on the outer of the huddle.
The bit that didnt look good was the fact he wasn't looking at the captain while Cotchin was speaking to the team. That was my point.
Guarantee you if if was another player and highlighted my the media folks would jump all over it.
If it was Jack we would still be hearing about it both from the whingers in the media and on here
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Just on the leadership thing
I actually watched a bit of the replay last night and noticed while the Captain was giving his pre-game in the huddle address Newy was standing on the outer of the huddle and not looking at the Captain, he was looking down the ground. Obviously, it caught my eye and my initial thought was "not a good look" especailly from a previous captain/leader
Had to take a look at what you were talking about- OMG! "standing on the outer" Come on WP. Are you serious! I am speechless if you have a problem with that. Jack no good either? Lighten up man. Do you seriously think DH would have a problem with that? The world's turned mad!
Re-read my entire comment big tone. Don't highlight only part of it
I don't give stuff that he was on the outer of the huddle.
The bit that didnt look good was the fact he wasn't looking at the captain while Cotchin was speaking to the team. That was my point.
Guarantee you if if was another player and highlighted my the media folks would jump all over it.
I think a player of Chris Newmans experience, age, loyalty, inelegance and footy nous can actually check to see who of Collingwood is heading to the forwardline,..... or who the umpires are for the day,..... and listen to Cotch at the same time.
Talk about over dramatizing things! :thumbsup
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Been a fan of Newie for a long time but his decline is noticeable. Will do well to be in the best 22 by years end..
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Harsh reality is he has little impact. He goes missing all too often
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Just on the leadership thing
I actually watched a bit of the replay last night and noticed while the Captain was giving his pre-game in the huddle address Newy was standing on the outer of the huddle and not looking at the Captain, he was looking down the ground. Obviously, it caught my eye and my initial thought was "not a good look" especailly from a previous captain/leader
::)
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Been a fan of Newie for a long time but his decline is noticeable. Will do well to be in the best 22 by years end..
I am not sure he is in the best 22 right now. Not 100% sure he was last year. He is getting games on reputation at the moment. I hope he turns it around. As I have said, a tap on the shoulder can sometimes be hard to accept. Most reach that stage
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Play him off a half forward flank or in a forward pocket as a last resort where his experience guile ability to take a mark and his neat foot skills can be used to maximum effect.
If that does not work then tap on the shoulder and off to Coburg.
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Been a fan of Newie for a long time but his decline is noticeable. Will do well to be in the best 22 by years end..
I am not sure he is in the best 22 right now. Not 100% sure he was last year. He is getting games on reputation at the moment. I hope he turns it around. As I have said, a tap on the shoulder can sometimes be hard to accept. Most reach that stage
i love getting a tap on the shoulder, but it doesn't happen often enough.
Once I got a tap on the shoulder from this real cute blonde while i was sleeping.......
but it was on a red eye flight and she just wanted to get past me to go to the toilet
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Been a fan of Newie for a long time but his decline is noticeable. Will do well to be in the best 22 by years end..
I am not sure he is in the best 22 right now. Not 100% sure he was last year. He is getting games on reputation at the moment. I hope he turns it around. As I have said, a tap on the shoulder can sometimes be hard to accept. Most reach that stage
i love getting a tap on the shoulder, but it doesn't happen often enough.
Once I got a tap on the shoulder from this real cute blonde while i was sleeping.......
but it was on a red eye flight and she just wanted to get past me to go to the toilet
Are you sure she didn't mistake you for Ralph Fiennes? :shh
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i love getting a tap on the shoulder, but it doesn't happen often enough.
Once I got a tap on the shoulder from this real cute blonde while i was sleeping.......
but it was on a red eye flight and she just wanted to get past me to go to the toilet
Are you sure she didn't mistake you for Ralph Fiennes? :shh
You've obviously never met Al, Tucker! ;D
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:lol
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Been a fan of Newie for a long time but his decline is noticeable. Will do well to be in the best 22 by years end..
yep agree with this. been a fan as well. have long advocated he go into the midfield but i reckon the writings on the wall. hes been in decline for a few yrs now.
no impact is an apt way of putting it. not getting a lot of ball not doing a lot defensively and not giving a lot of run imo
we complain about our tackle count i reckon you could count on one hand the number of tackles newman has laid.
imo the real issue is his pace which isnt getting any better each yr.
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i love getting a tap on the shoulder, but it doesn't happen often enough.
Once I got a tap on the shoulder from this real cute blonde while i was sleeping.......
but it was on a red eye flight and she just wanted to get past me to go to the toilet
Are you sure she didn't mistake you for Ralph Fiennes? :shh
You've obviously never met Al, Tucker! ;D
No I haven't but hey who am i to talk when beauty is in the eye of the beholder. :thumbsup
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Disgrace that this guy is getting gifted games.
He is the most pathetic and useless player in our starting 22. Jackson is streets ahead of him as at least he occasionally tags out a player like Fyfe last week.
Hardwick stop trying to save your job and dump this spud back to Coburg for good.
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Showed some aggression and passion :clapping
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Showed some aggression and passion :clapping
WGAF. He only shows aggression because he doesn't have anything left. Took him 200 games to show something and even that was pathetic. If your going to do it, do it properly.
Said it 2 years ago he is finished.
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Said it 2 years ago he is finished.
WGAF
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I'm not a Petterd fan but from what I saw last night he was OK. Plenty worse. Annoys me that Batchelor is now behind Petterd. I'm a huge Batch fan
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I'm not a Petterd fan but from what I saw last night he was OK. Plenty worse. Annoys me that Batchelor is now behind Petterd. I'm a huge Batch fan
Does this look like the Petterd thread to you?
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Agree with the few saying not in our best 22.Han't played a decent game this season.
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Definitely played very good today, did lot of good things the best being the run down tackle
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Delist
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Definitely played very good today, did lot of good things the best being the run down tackle
Has to at least keep this standard or be demoted.
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Definitely played very good today, did lot of good things the best being the run down tackle
Has to at least keep this standard or be demoted.
Agree from an experienced player should be at this level week in week out
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VIDEO: Chris Newman interview post-game
http://www.richmondfc.com.au/video/2013-05-11/round-7-newman-post-game
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Good day for Newey.. Good win against Port and his horse won a group 3 race at Morphettville paying $16
Wowee!!
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As the final siren sounded on Richmond's most important victory in a dozen years, the ball rested in Chris Newman's sure hands.
He is the human face of Richmond's decade of despair, next week equalling Trevor Barker's record of 230 games without a finals contest.
Yet what might once have been some twisted joke of a milestone against Sydney will just be another curio on the way to September for Newman.
He booted the ball skywards not out of jubilation but something resembling relief.
Not that Newman would concede Richmond would play finals for the first time since 2001.
"The lid is on.
"Don't worry, the lid is on until we are there,'' he laughed.
"'It is just good to be in the season. This time for a lot of years I have played we have been looking to the end of the season by now. It's just nice to be in the mix and just staying alive.''
"As I have always said the (Barker) record doesn't matter. It's the hand I have been dealt and so be it.
"As long as we get there before we finish, I don't care.
Herald-Sun link (http://www.news.com.au/sport/afl/richmond-prevails-over-fremantle-side-missing-key-players/story-fndv8t7m-1226682711640)
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Today Newy broke Trevor Barker's record for the most games (231) without playing a final.
http://stats.rleague.com/afl/stats/alltime/misc_players.html#11
Fitting we won to secure our place in the finals so Newy will finally see September action (touchwood no injury) :thumbsup.
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Tigers determined to deliver 231-game Newman's finals dream
By Jacqui Reed
afl.com.au
8:08pm AEST Saturday, August 3, 2013
RICHMOND veteran Chris Newman is on the verge of his first finals campaign after 231 games.
Newman holds the unwanted record of most games played without a final, surpassing St Kilda great Trevor Barker at the MCG on Saturday.
Newman's desperate bid for September action was given a boost after the Tigers registered an emphatic 41-point win over Hawthorn.
The win moved Richmond to sixth place on 12 wins, usually the magic number for playing finals.
Teammate Alex Rance admits the team is determined to take the former captain to uncharted territory this season.
"I think he instilled a lot of our attitudes and beliefs [in the] early days when the club wasn't doing so well," Rance said.
"I think it means so much to him because he believes in this group so much. For him to not have the rewards finals-wise, it's a bit heartbreaking really.
"It's on us now. He's given so much to us, so it's about time we give back to him."
The win over Hawthorn has done plenty for the team's confidence, and the team is hoping it can make an impact, should September beckon.
"It instills that belief that our game-plan works and can fire under a good opponent," Rance said.
"I think our playing group has had that belief but there's no doubt it's a fair injection in the arm," coach Damien Hardwick said.
http://www.afl.com.au/news/2013-08-03/about-time-we-give-back-to-newman
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Just have to make sure he doesn't hurt himself as the finals come up.
Happy for him. He deserves it and is still playing good football IMO.
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Hypothetical. Does his knee a la Cotchin vs freo in Round 23 (playable but down on form). Do we play him in the finals?
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im certain i saw he and deledio crying after the game
newman lids jackson and i guess tuck have suffered the most
we also saw yesterday that in finals conditions we need tuck in the team
and at the mcg we can beat anyone
lets live the dream
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love the pic of him raising his fists in triumph in the pouring rain
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Thought he was very good yesterday
Set the example
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(http://i.imgur.com/wFPwOoj.jpg)
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(http://i.imgur.com/wFPwOoj.jpg)
Vegeta, what does the scouter say about his power level?!
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(http://i.imgur.com/wFPwOoj.jpg)
Vegeta, what does the scouter say about his power level?!
IT'S OVER 9TH PLACE!!!
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Fair effort :clapping
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(http://i.imgur.com/wFPwOoj.jpg)
Vegeta, what does the scouter say about his power level?!
IT'S OVER 9TH PLACE!!!
Priceless :lol
So glad he doesn't have to play 9000+ games to play a finals series
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I think our playing group has had that belief but there's no doubt it's a fair injection in the arm," coach Damien Hardwick said.
Trolling Essendon lols
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Let's hope for Newy's sake that ankle niggle is just a minor thing and he's okay to play. He was hobbling today when they interviewed him on the news.
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Stray thoughts
- Barring injury Chris Newman's first finals appearance is just a formality. Time to put him in cotton wool until week one?
http://www.sportsfan.com.au/hand-over-the-points,-bombers/tabid/91/newsid/110008/default.aspx
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Rest him!
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VIDEO: Newy on the Tigers' transformation ...
http://www.richmondfc.com.au/video/2013-08-12/newman-on-tigers-transformation
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I like it!
Newy summed us up, "The Greatest Supporters in the league"!
Ain't hat the truth.....
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Tiger veteran Newman no certainty to end 232-game finals drought
By Jennifer Phelan
afl.com.au
Sunday, September 1, 2013
RICHMOND veteran Chris Newman hasn't given up on playing in his first ever final despite a lingering ankle injury costing him the last three games of the season.
The 31-year-old, who holds the record for the most games played without a final, has not appeared on the field since round 20's win over the Brisbane Lions.
He is suffering from a syndesmosis injury to his right ankle, which affects the ligament that connects the tibia and fibula bones.
It's also known as a high ankle sprain with the recovery usually expected to double that of a normal sprain.
He had a setback at training last week but was hopeful of being named to face Essendon on Saturday night.
Now, after missing the win over the Bombers, he will need to prove his fitness this week if he is to play in next week's final – likely on Sunday against Carlton – and remains optimistic he can do it.
"It's pretty good. It's progressing well; it's kind of caused me a little bit more trouble than I'd expected," Newman told AFL.com.au.
"It's just one of those things that I just have to manage and make sure it's 100 per cent.
"Obviously when you get an injury around your ankle, it's hard to avoid with the amount of times you have to use it throughout the game.
"I've just tried to get it as right as possible and hopefully I can come back and not have any more trouble with it."
Newman said he "did a bit of damage" to that important ligament that joins the two leg bones but understood he escaped what could have been a more serious complaint.
"I was lucky it wasn't too much damage because there have been a few boys who have been sidelined from it that have had more extreme cases," he said.
"I've just done a little bit of damage to the outside of the ankle as well.
"It's all progressing really well so I should be fighting fit soon."
Newman isn't sure if he'll need surgery after the finals, which would signal the first time he would go under the knife in a post-season situation.
He knows he just needs to prove himself at training but has acknowledged the challenge in front of him having missed the past three weeks.
"It's not an ideal preparation going into our first finals series in so long but no doubt I just have to keep my fitness up and just keep some touch so I don't lose too much and I'm ready to come back in," he said.
"It's feeling good and hopefully it just goes away."
On Thursday, coach Damien Hardwick said there was no reason to risk players at this stage of the season before they decided not to name Newman for Saturday night's game.
He also while there was "no sentiment in AFL footy", the former captain's experience would mean he would be a starter next week if he got through training.
"If he's fit to play, he'll play. We've just got to make sure he's fit," Hardwick said.
http://www.afl.com.au/news/2013-09-01/newman-in-finals-limbo
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He trained yesterday and said it felt pretty good.
Also said he was blowing and needed the training this week to get his fitness back up.
Pretty confident though. Fingers crossed for him..
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Need to play him. Fearless and smart, good skills.
Poops on Petturd.
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Chris Newman will do anything to break his finals duck
By Jennifer Phelan
afl.com.au
Monday, September 2, 2013
JACK Riewoldt is "jumping out of his skin" over playing in Richmond's first final in 12 years and is expected to return from back and knee issues on Sunday, says Chris Newman.
And Newman plans on joining Riewoldt as key inclusions for the Tigers for their elimination final against Carlton at the MCG – even if it's as the substitute.
Riewoldt didn't play in Saturday night's win over Essendon, with the club citing back soreness as the reason.
He has also been plagued by a knee issue that stems back to when he jarred it against Carlton in round 21.
Newman said the spearhead had every intention of playing in his maiden final.
"I think it's back related and he's had a bit of knee trouble as well, but he's fine, he's ready to go," Newman said on Monday.
"I know that he's done everything in his powers to be able to play this week.
"From all reports and from speaking to him this morning, he can't wait so I think everyone knows Jack and he'll be jumping out of his skin."
Newman has missed the past three games with right ankle syndesmosis; a high degree sprain that affects the ligament that connects the tibia and fibula bones.
The 31-year-old is confident he'll get through training this week and is more than prepared to start the game in the green vest if it means he'll play his first final after 232 games.
"I'm not sure. I think that will be up to Damien – there might be a chance," he said.
"I'm not too sure how we'll structure up throughout the week.
"If that's the case then I'm happy to accept that."
Newman holds the record for the most games played without appearing in a final.
He admitted it wasn't ideal to have missed the past three games but the upside was the rest of his body was feeling fresh.
He also said he was "extremely confident" he had enough fitness behind him to cope with Sunday's intense encounter despite not playing since round 20.
"I've done a lot of training in rehab and, as people say when they're not playing, they have to work harder when they're in rehab to try and maintain that fitness," he said.
"My body feels good and I could have possibly played on the weekend, but we thought it was probably best to leave it for this week.
"It just enables [the ankle] to be 10 per cent better this week.
"I'm feeling really good and looking forward to training."
The Tigers are being told to embrace this week's excitement and hype, with coach Damien Hardwick emphasising the drought since the last time they played finals.
Development coach and former Port Adelaide premiership coach, Mark Williams, is also keen for the players to soak up the experience, which Newman said had already produced unexpected emotion.
"He's going to get us to pick up some turf and have a smell of the grass and all that sort of stuff," Newman said.
"It's different to what I thought I would feel; I thought I would have a huge sense of relief of something.
"It's certainly not that. I haven't felt that at all; it just feels like unfinished business and I can't wait to sink my teeth into what will be a great game on Sunday."
http://www.afl.com.au/news/2013-09-02/newman-desperate-to-break-duck
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Patrick Keane @AFL_PKeane twitter:
Finals odd stat: Chris Newman has played 232 games without a final. Robert Flower had longest wait in history to play a final, of 270 games.
Most games pre 1st final:
270- R Flower
242- J Murphy
239- S Alves
235- G Wells
232- C Newman
221- R Carter
218- B Skilton
193- B Deledio
https://twitter.com/AFL_PKeane
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I don't like how this geezer gets to strut back into the side while Tucky could get shafted yet again. Chris might be a former captain but Tuck has been twice the player for us. Still is a better player. Different role/position I know, but the point stands. Tuck has been every bit as good a servant as Chris. Would like to see both play but if I had to choose one I know who it would be.
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I don't like how this geezer gets to strut back into the side while Tucky could get shafted yet again. Chris might be a former captain but Tuck has been twice the player for us. Still is a better player. Different role/position I know, but the point stands. Tuck has been every bit as good a servant as Chris. Would like to see both play but if I had to choose one I know who it would be.
I don't care who the stuff plays as long as we win.
:cheers
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I don't like how this geezer gets to strut back into the side while Tucky could get shafted yet again. Chris might be a former captain but Tuck has been twice the player for us. Still is a better player. Different role/position I know, but the point stands. Tuck has been every bit as good a servant as Chris. Would like to see both play but if I had to choose one I know who it would be.
:clapping Agree and almost been at the club as long.
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I'd play both Newman and Tuck. Experienced, tough etc
Drop the likes of Petterd. Weak and poor decision making.
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New ground no problem for Newman
By Ben Collins
afl.com.au
2:50pm AEST Thursday, September 5, 2013
RICHMOND veteran Chris Newman will overcome the hype surrounding his first finals appearance and deliver a typically polished performance, say two all-time greats.
Newman comfortably holds the record among current players for most games played without a final - 232 games - with the next being his vice-captain Brett Deledio on 194.
But Newman, 31, will happily lose that unwanted mantle on Sunday when the Tigers break a 12-year finals drought in the first elimination final against Carlton.
Just eight players in history have waited more than 200 games to play their first final, and only four have waited longer than Newman.
Longest wait for first final
Games Player Club Age Season
270 Robert Flower Melbourne
31years, 301 days
1987
242 John Murphy Fitz/SM/NM*
29 years, 292 days
1979
239 Stan Alves Melb/NM*
31 years, 105 days
1977
235 Greg Wells Melb/Carl*
30 years, 94 days
1980
232 Chris Newman Richmond
31 years, 114 days
2013
221 Rod Carter Fitz/SM/Syd*
31 years, 313 days
1986
218 Bob Skilton South Melbourne
31 years, 301 days
1970
194 Brett Deledio Richmond
26 years, 144 days
2013
* Denotes team represented in final
Perhaps the most celebrated cases of players breaking their finals drought in the twilight of their careers are Robbie Flower and Bob Skilton.
Flower amassed a record 270 games for Melbourne before making his first September appearance in 1987, his last season.
The then 32-year-old skipper performed superbly in September, kicking bags of five and four goals from a half-forward flank in big wins over North Melbourne and the Sydney Swans, before suffering a dislocated shoulder in a narrow preliminary final loss to Hawthorn.
It's doubtful Flower would have played if the Demons made the Grand Final.
AFL Legend Skilton, a triple Brownlow medallist and nine-time Swans best and fairest winner, played 218 games before leading South Melbourne in his one and only finals appearance in his second-last season of 1970. In the first-semi-final the Swans led St Kilda by five points at half-time before going down by 53 points.
Skilton, then 31, had 20 kicks and was one of his team's best players.
Both greats expressed their joy for Newman, who they praised as both a player and leader.
"It's a wonderful time – one of the highlights of your life – and I'm just rapt he'll finally get to experience it," Skilton said.
The experiences of Skilton and Flower could prove instructive for Newman.
The duo had previously represented Victoria but nothing could have prepared them for the roar of massive September crowds. Skilton was rattled momentarily by the din of 104,239 people at the MCG, having only rarely played before more than 40,000 previously.
"I'd never experienced anything like those first couple of minutes in that final," Skilton said. "That's why I can understand why players can be a bit fumbly early. I added one to the crowd figure for a while. But you soon settle down."
However, they believe this won't be an issue for Newman, who will be well conditioned to playing before big crowds at the MCG.
And unlike Flower, whose Demons only snatched a top-five spot in a dramatic final round, Newman has had longer to prepare for his September debut.
The old champs say Newman will naturally be nervous and excited, and determined to capitalise on an opportunity that might never present itself again, but expect him to handle the occasion with his usual aplomb.
"Chris is a class footballer and certainly well equipped to cope with anything that's thrown his way in a final," Flower said.
"As an experienced player, you know there are certain things you need to do and you do them automatically regardless of whether it's a final or any other game, and Chris is the type of disciplined, team player who knows what to do just through experience.
"Yes, the emotion of the day can be a big factor, but it can also be a positive thing. It pretty quickly becomes just another game, albeit a very important one, and one that you have to win."
Skilton was confident Newman would be "as good as gold" on the big stage.
"We all love him for the way he goes about his footy and I've got no doubt we'll see the same Chris Newman we've always seen. He doesn't play any different to when he was captain – he still leads by example. I don’t think I've ever seen him play a bad game, and I don’t expect him to start now."
Skilton said the best advice he could give would be for Newman to simply "be himself, and continue to do whatever works for him because it's taken him this far. I'd be trying like mad to make my routine the same as always".
Skilton also made the point that Newman wouldn’t be the only Tiger who had been starved of finals.
"You've got all your mates alongside you who have gone through the same thing with you, even though they haven’t played as many games. so you’re all in it together. That's one of the many wonderful things about team sport," he said.
Current players – most games without a final
232 – Chris Newman (Rich)
194 – Brett Deledio (Rich)
172 – Shane Tuck (Rich)
145 – Daniel Jackson (Rich)
140 – Jay Schulz (Rich/PA)
136 – Nathan Foley (Rich)
133 – Jack Riewoldt (Rich)
128 – Shane Edwards (Rich)
124 – Richard Tambling (Rich/Adel)
119 – Andrew Raines (Rich/BL)
118 – James Frawley (Melb)
117 – Lynden Dunn (Melb)
107 – Trent Cotchin (Rich)
105 – Luke McGuane (Rich)
105 – Matt White (Rich)
104 – Jake King (Rich)
101 – Colin Garland (Melb)
http://www.afl.com.au/news/2013-09-05/new-ground-for-newman
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New man to finals, but wait will be worth it
Matt Murnane
The Age
September 6, 2013
Chris Newman looks sure to be playing his first final - some 4116 days on from his debut. But even the days leading up to Sunday's clash against Carlton haven't been easy.
That he spent the week in the medical room rehabilitating his ankle to ensure he did not miss the club's first slice of September since 2001 sums up Newman's 12-year career in a nutshell.
For everything the Tigers veteran owns as a player - 232 AFL games, runner-up in the club's best-and-fairest, and captaincy of the club he loves - he has had to push right to the finish line to earn it.
As former Richmond captain and now assistant coach Wayne Campbell surmised this week, Newman's long journey is one of a player who would never give up.
''Nothing has ever come easy. If he had a lesser will to improve and be the best he could be with the attributes he was given, he might have only lasted two or three seasons and then never been seen again,'' said Campbell, recalling his first impressions of Newman as an unheralded fourth-round draft pick.
It is a familiar tale every club could tell about one of their favourite sons who took the blue-collar route. But what sets Newman apart is the esteem with which he is held inside Tigerland.
''We would like to think that the culture of our club and our team is outstanding, and if you were to pin the people that that comes down to, one is the coach and one is Chris,'' Campbell said.
''And then [current captain] Trent Cotchin has been able to build on that foundation.''
It is a standing usually reserved for premiership captains or Brownlow medallists. Newman has no such medals, no All-Australian guernseys or club championships. He is just Chris Newman.
''I just think through hard work and his personality he was able to get into a position where he was made captain of the club, which is an extraordinary effort,'' said Campbell, reflecting on Newman's appointment in 2009.
''And then to captain the club in a way that had the playing group love him as much as any playing group I've ever seen love a captain, was even more extraordinary.''
As skipper, it was Newman who helped steer the Tigers through the recent rebuild under coach Damien Hardwick, selling the message that moments like Sunday were possible if the players bought in.
''Certainly in the first couple of years Damien came on board and Chris was captain, we lost a lot of games, so you are trying to teach a way of playing but also build a culture of the club. Chris was instrumental to that,'' Campbell said.
Campbell knows what's it like to run around with Jack Dyer on his back - he was the captain that started the tradition - but he said no one wore the No.17 with more pride than Newman.
''He certainly took it to a new level, the love for the jumper and the love for the history of the club,'' he said. ''He put the jumper on a pedestal that it had never been before.''
Having unburdened himself of the captaincy this season, Newman is now set to distance himself from the line mentioned in just about every media interview he obliges - ''the player who has played the most games without a final''.
For so long the face of Richmond's hardship, on Sunday he will be - finally - just another finals player.
''It's hard to know whether you become a better person and player for going through a club where you play finals every year, or whether the resilience and mental toughness you get taught being through what he's been through helps you to deal with whatever life throws at you,'' Campbell said.
''But in footy, because of the draft, you get the cards that get dealt to you.''
http://www.theage.com.au/afl/afl-news/new-man-to-finals-but-wait-will-be-worth-it-20130905-2t86f.html
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Current players – most games without a final
232 – Chris Newman (Rich)
194 – Brett Deledio (Rich)
172 – Shane Tuck (Rich)
145 – Daniel Jackson (Rich)
140 – Jay Schulz (Rich/PA)
136 – Nathan Foley (Rich)
133 – Jack Riewoldt (Rich)
128 – Shane Edwards (Rich)
124 – Richard Tambling (Rich/Adel)
119 – Andrew Raines (Rich/BL)
118 – James Frawley (Melb)
117 – Lynden Dunn (Melb)
107 – Trent Cotchin (Rich)
105 – Luke McGuane (Rich)
105 – Matt White (Rich)
104 – Jake King (Rich)
101 – Colin Garland (Melb)
http://www.afl.com.au/news/2013-09-05/new-ground-for-newman
Nice representation from Richmond on that list.
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Robert Flower & Bob Skilton could play abit
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Current players – most games without a final
232 – Chris Newman (Rich)
194 – Brett Deledio (Rich)
172 – Shane Tuck (Rich)
145 – Daniel Jackson (Rich)
140 – Jay Schulz (Rich/PA)
136 – Nathan Foley (Rich)
133 – Jack Riewoldt (Rich)
128 – Shane Edwards (Rich)
124 – Richard Tambling (Rich/Adel)
119 – Andrew Raines (Rich/BL)
118 – James Frawley (Melb)
117 – Lynden Dunn (Melb)
107 – Trent Cotchin (Rich)
105 – Luke McGuane (Rich)
105 – Matt White (Rich)
104 – Jake King (Rich)
101 – Colin Garland (Melb)
http://www.afl.com.au/news/2013-09-05/new-ground-for-newman
Nice representation from Richmond on that list.
Yeah, it's about to get smashed but even then we will still figure prominently!
172 – Shane Tuck (Rich) ?
124 – Richard Tambling (Rich/Adel)
119 – Andrew Raines (Rich/BL)
118 – James Frawley (Melb)
117 – Lynden Dunn (Melb)
105 – Luke McGuane (Rich)
105 – Matt White (Rich)
101 – Colin Garland (Melb)
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Ashlealouise @ashlealouise1 twitter:
"Congratulations to Chris Newman and Lauren Newman on the beautiful arrival of Indiana Grace Newman! What a gorgeous girl 💛"
:) :clapping
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:clapping
Congrats
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Hope he ante's up again for a son
LOL
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Newy - the forward
The Tigers' attacking structure will also feature a new face this season with former captain Chris Newman training with the forwards.
Newman played further up the ground last year in a step away from the defensive role he has played for much of his career.
Lade said it was important for older players to face fresh challenges and the 31-year-old had embraced the shift forward.
"He's probably been our best small forward at this stage," he said.
"He knows how they work because he's played on them for 20 years.
"It will be good for them to chase him around.
"The big thing for Chris is he's still got his speed and his determination to get from contest to contest and compete hard at every one is second to none.
"We're going to try him up forward and so far, so good. Hopefully it goes well for the rest of the year."
http://www.afl.com.au/news/2014-02-08/big-tiger-gets-some-relief
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"The big thing for Chris is he's still got his speed and his determination to get from contest to contest and compete hard at every one is second to none.
"We're going to try him up forward and so far, so good. Hopefully it goes well for the rest of the year."
Whilst I think putting up him forward is a probably a smart move, (though giving him a role in the VFL side would be an even smarter one.) is Lade talking about the same Chris Newman here? Our last remaining disciple* of the Bowden-Campbell school of soft, unaccountable football.
* No, Grigg & Houli were just born that way.
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newman >>> king
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newman >>> king
Talent-wise, yes - by a considerable margin.
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"The big thing for Chris is he's still got his speed and his determination to get from contest to contest and compete hard at every one is second to none.
"We're going to try him up forward and so far, so good. Hopefully it goes well for the rest of the year."
Whilst I think putting up him forward is a probably a smart move, (though giving him a role in the VFL side would be an even smarter one.) is Lade talking about the same Chris Newman here? Our last remaining disciple* of the Bowden-Campbell school of soft, unaccountable football.
* No, Grigg & Houli were just born that way.
I've always viewed Newman as a brave player. Maybe gets cheap ball as a rebounding defender but I've never ever seen him shirk the issue. Always prepared to get hit.
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Shouldn't have played in the final.
Hypocritical selection
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hmm so what is his competition for a spot as a forward.
newman,
king - reckon newman by some margin.
s edwards - this is where he should play imo. think id prefer newman.
knights - knights for me if fit. especially as he can be a valuable part of rotations.
gordon - well we didnt draft a 24 yo to spend his time in the magoos. another who should be able to go thru the midfield. gordon please.
petterd - only place id play him. a good option here and actually gives us something in the air as well. purely as a forward id maybe play petterd.
a edwards - more a marking player. at his age would be looking for other options. especially if we play the three talls in hampson,vickery,jack. not really a like for like.
ohanlon - like peterd a medium sized marking player with good skills. if hes devloping well and improves id play him.
lloyd - another 24 yo recruit i havent seen much of him but expect him to play plenty of games. natural goal kicker just what we need.
mcdonough - would play him in front of newman if he shows enough. classy sml goalkicker what we a re screaming for.
banfield - pacy player whos a good solid build for his size. could well add something.
lennon - first rounder and if he shows hes ready has to play. id prefer we introduce him of hb to start with.
then theres mids like martin deledio possibly conca.
the way i see it theres lots of competition for a sml /med spot. probably better options as well.
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hmm so what is his competition for a spot as a forward.
newman,
king - reckon newman by some margin.
s edwards - this is where he should play imo. think id prefer newman.
knights - knights for me if fit. especially as he can be a valuable part of rotations.
gordon - well we didnt draft a 24 yo to spend his time in the magoos. another who should be able to go thru the midfield. gordon please.
petterd - only place id play him. a good option here and actually gives us something in the air as well. purely as a forward id maybe play petterd.
a edwards - more a marking player. at his age would be looking for other options. especially if we play the three talls in hampson,vickery,jack. not really a like for like.
ohanlon - like peterd a medium sized marking player with good skills. if hes devloping well and improves id play him.
lloyd - another 24 yo recruit i havent seen much of him but expect him to play plenty of games. natural goal kicker just what we need.
mcdonough - would play him in front of newman if he shows enough. classy sml goalkicker what we a re screaming for.
banfield - pacy player whos a good solid build for his size. could well add something.
lennon - first rounder and if he shows hes ready has to play. id prefer we introduce him of hb to start with.
then theres mids like martin deledio possibly conca.
the way i see it theres lots of competition for a sml /med spot. probably better options as well.
is there really still 'small / mid forwards' or is everyone a mid (more, or less) given the nature of the way the sport has evolved tactically?
Some might say there is a few talls and everyone else is more or less a 'runner'
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hmm so what is his competition for a spot as a forward.
newman,
king - reckon newman by some margin.
s edwards - this is where he should play imo. think id prefer newman.
knights - knights for me if fit. especially as he can be a valuable part of rotations.
gordon - well we didnt draft a 24 yo to spend his time in the magoos. another who should be able to go thru the midfield. gordon please.
petterd - only place id play him. a good option here and actually gives us something in the air as well. purely as a forward id maybe play petterd.
a edwards - more a marking player. at his age would be looking for other options. especially if we play the three talls in hampson,vickery,jack. not really a like for like.
ohanlon - like peterd a medium sized marking player with good skills. if hes devloping well and improves id play him.
lloyd - another 24 yo recruit i havent seen much of him but expect him to play plenty of games. natural goal kicker just what we need.
mcdonough - would play him in front of newman if he shows enough. classy sml goalkicker what we a re screaming for.
banfield - pacy player whos a good solid build for his size. could well add something.
lennon - first rounder and if he shows hes ready has to play. id prefer we introduce him of hb to start with.
then theres mids like martin deledio possibly conca.
the way i see it theres lots of competition for a sml /med spot. probably better options as well.
is there really still 'small / mid forwards' or is everyone a mid (more, or less) given the nature of the way the sport has evolved tactically?
Some might say there is a few talls and everyone else is more or less a 'runner'
yeah i think there is in the sense their primary role is as a forward. lots are expected to give a chop out in mid rotations. wed give our soul to find a lecras betts rioli milne type wouldnt we.
as for height id say there is very few small players getting games in any role. what do we classify a small. for some 180cm and under others under 6ft 183cm in the old scale.
depending on how you classify a tall, for me 190cm plus as a firm guide. id say a minimum of a third of your team is tall comprising 3 tall forwards 3 tall defenders two ruckmen plus what running players you have that are 190cm and can perform dual roles.
seeing as 188 189cm is the average for most sides 190cm is maybe a bit low.
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Acl?
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Walking around. Hyper extension. Some ice and a couple weeks rest.
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He is walking fine now in the rooms, who knows.
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Oh dear
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seemed to be walking fine in the rooms a few mins later
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Tigers confident with Newman after knee scare
Jennifer Phelan
afl.com.au
February 14, 2014 10:34 PM
RICHMOND is optimistic veteran Chris Newman escaped serious damage after a knee scare against Melbourne on Friday night.
Newman landed on his right knee after a marking contest in the third quarter of the Tigers' 14-point loss to Melbourne in the NAB Challenge match at Etihad Stadium and had to be helped from the ground.
The 31-year-old was treated in the rooms and didn't come back on as the Tigers narrowly fell to a brave Demons' outfit.
After the match, Richmond coach Damien Hardwick said while it was too early to tell the full extent of Newman's injury, early signs indicated he had possibly dodged a bullet.
"We're hoping it's just jarred at this stage. I think he landed a bit awkwardly, but we'll find out more in the next couple of days," Hardwick said.
"He was up walking around so we're just hoping it's jarred."
http://www.afl.com.au/news/2014-02-14/tigers-confident-with-newman
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Knights was also walking after that knee injury against port
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Cogs too after rfc shmuched him
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Cogs played an entire game with a brokded knee
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Tiger Newman has scans after AFL injury
Source: AAP
UPDATED 2 HOURS AGO
Chris Newman's knee injury was the only real wound for Richmond after a poor start to their AFL pre-season that lacked intent.
Newman was due to have scans on Saturday, but it appeared he had nothing more than a jarred knee.
http://www.sbs.com.au/news/article/2014/02/15/tiger-newman-has-scans-after-afl-injury
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Blessing in disguise - bring in McDonough.
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SBS delivers :clapping
While lowly Melbourne were outstanding with the upset win, the Tigers at times seemed keen to help them.
Best soft porn... Err media outlet in Australia
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Tiger Newman cleared of major knee damage
Adam McNicol
afl.com.au
February 15, 2014 4:55 PM
RICHMOND veteran Chris Newman will be sidelined for up to a month after scans on his injured knee revealed bone bruising but no structural damage.
The 31-year-old former skipper landed awkwardly in a marking contest during the third quarter of Richmond's NAB Challenge loss to Melbourne at Etihad Stadium on Friday night.
He hobbled from the field and did not take any further part in the match.
It was initially feared that he might have suffered a season-ending injury, but the Tigers are now hoping he could be fit to line up in their home and away season opener against Gold Coast at Metricon Stadium on March 15.
http://www.afl.com.au/news/2014-02-15/good-news-for-newman
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Same injury Cotchin suffered but played through (except missed a game a fortnight later).
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Tiger veteran feared his career was over
Peter Ryan
afl.com.au
February 16, 2014 9:00 PM
RICHMOND veteran Chris Newman feared the worst when he landed awkwardly and injured his knee on Friday night against Melbourne.
The 31-year-old heard a click when he landed with his leg straight and was reluctant to move the leg or test it as he sat on the ground. He sensed that the club doctors and physios were, in his words, panicking a little bit.
"My career flashed before my eyes when I was on the deck there. It was a bit of a scary moment," Newman said.
"After about 30 seconds on the ground it felt OK and I was able to walk and almost run off the ground."
He was relieved when the doctors told him the knee was structurally sound after they assessed the damage in the rooms.
"It did look bad. I think it looked worse than what the actual result is. It's a pretty good result, probably the best result – just a bit of bone bruising – so hopefully within a few weeks I'll be ready to go again," Newman said.
The former skipper said he planned to be available for round one and hoped to have a final hitout in the club's last practice match for the season.
Richmond plays Essendon at Punt Road on Friday March 7 before the season opener against the Gold Coast Suns at Metricon Stadium on Saturday March 15.
Newman said it was difficult to determine the rate of healing with bone bruising but he club estimates he will be out for between two to four weeks.
With that scare behind him, Newman is relishing the prospect of playing forward more often this season. He finished 2013 playing in the forward half and has trained this summer to be used inside 50. He kicked the first goal of the match on Friday night.
Newman said it presents a new challenge for him and will keep him mentally fresh as he enters the twilight of his career. He has kicked just 40 goals in 233 matches and has played most of his career as a defender. He has kicked at least one goal every season since 2003.
"I enjoy sneaking forward and hopefully I can contribute on the scoreboard," Newman said.
He admitted the Tigers were very disappointed with their first-up performance against the Demons and had been poor defensively.
Although he said it was a reminder the team needed to improve in plenty of areas, they entered the season with high expectation.
He said finishing in the top four was one of Richmond's aims.
"You certainly don't want to go into a year without expectation," he said.
The Tigers finished seventh last season after losing to Carlton in week one of the finals, having finished the home-and-away season fifth on the ladder.
http://www.afl.com.au/news/2014-02-16/newmans-career-fear
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Good news, it would of been devastating for Newman to finish hi career like this.
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Good for him. Agree with you WAT
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Tick tock, tick tock, tick tock......
Hard decision time Damian.
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His knee is still troubling him. He was clearly favouring the injured knee on Saturday. Bone bruising can take a long time to get better especially if you are older.
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VFL Premiership captain.... or give him the Gaspar treatment...
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His knee is still troubling him. He was clearly favouring the injured knee on Saturday. Bone bruising can take a long time to get better especially if you are older.
All the more reason why he shouldn't of played case of "de ja vu" it was like last year's final... playing him when he wasn't fit enough to do so.
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His knee is still troubling him. He was clearly favouring the injured knee on Saturday. Bone bruising can take a long time to get better especially if you are older.
All the more reason why he shouldn't of played case of "de ja vu" it was like last year's final... playing him when he wasn't fit enough to do so.
Totally agree. :thumbsup
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His knee is still troubling him. He was clearly favouring the injured knee on Saturday. Bone bruising can take a long time to get better especially if you are older.
All the more reason why he shouldn't of played case of "de ja vu" it was like last year's final... playing him when he wasn't fit enough to do so.
Bingo. Coach said no to King but yes to Newman..
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Newman had been injured for the last 2 years
Injured between his ears
He is rubbish now
Get rid of him
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Serious question: Can anyone actually remember the last time Newy was in our bests or had any significant impact on the game?
I genuinely cant. >:(
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Serious question: Can anyone actually remember the last time Newy was in our bests or had any significant impact on the game?
I genuinely cant. >:(
IIRC he had a mini purple patch in the middle of 2012 setting us up of half back which was one of the main reasons we were briefly in Finals contention......until Lyon figured him out in that match where Fremantle finally broke their MCG hoodoo, then all the other coaches followed and the dream was over for yet another year.
But before that...I'd say no, not since he was about 21.....
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I vaguely remember this patch. Distant memories now.
In: Gordo/Knights
Out: Newman
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Deserves to be an automatic selection.......for the E.J. Whitten Match.
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He's had an amazing career.
It's amazing he's had one.
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Time to help the RFC ressies. They got slaughtered by 20 goals today. If he's lucky he might play 230 games for the ressies with no finals.
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Well time. Clock should have been punched by now.
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Has been finished for the best part of 18 months just like Foley. Why they are still on the list is anyones guess.
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Mcdonughts has passed him by
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Problem is until he calls time on his own, he will always get a game, cant see dimma ever dropping him
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Mcdonughts has passed him by
This.
He is taking MacDonoughs place on the list.
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Problem is until he calls time on his own, he will always get a game, cant see dimma ever dropping him
BINGO
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Yep that's pathetic.
He's got his final. Needs to play VFL to help the kids.
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The bloke got handed a spot in the finals through sympathy and nepotism
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Problem is until he calls time on his own, he will always get a game, cant see dimma ever dropping him
BINGO
Well that's Dimma's problem.
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Problem is until he calls time on his own, he will always get a game, cant see dimma ever dropping him
BINGO
Well that's Dimma's problem.
ours too
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Mcdonughts has passed him by
It's one thing to say Newey is struggling but to say Mcdonughts has gone past him crap. Mcdonughts as you call him is as average as you get. Not quick, not strong, not a great kick, just small and lucky to be anywhere near the RFC. Nason mark2
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I'd be happy with Nason mk.II....criminally underrated footballer who at least he ran his guts out and was a far smarter footballer than many dunderheads still on our list.
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I'd be happy with Nason mk.II....criminally underrated footballer who at least he ran his guts out and was a far smarter footballer than many dunderheads still on our list.
Worst player to play AFL. End of story.
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I'd be happy with Nason mk.II....criminally underrated footballer who at least he ran his guts out and was a far smarter footballer than many dunderheads still on our list.
Worst player to play AFL. End of story.
Ignorant comment. Not even close. At least half a dozen worse on our list right now - better than half the current list purely on work ethic and football nouse alone.
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Ridiculous comment about McDonuts.
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I'd be happy with Nason mk.II....criminally underrated footballer who at least he ran his guts out and was a far smarter footballer than many dunderheads still on our list.
Worst player to play AFL. End of story.
Ignorant comment. Not even close. At least half a dozen worse on our list right now - better than half the current list purely on work ethic and football nouse alone.
This will be interesting if you have the balls to back up your comments, but I'm guess you won't.
Name at least 6 players worse than Nason on you list now?
Name the half of our team that he is better than on work ethic and footy nouse?
Cannot wait for this. :lol
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Mcdonughts has passed him by
It's one thing to say Newey is struggling but to say Mcdonughts has gone past him crap. Mcdonughts as you call him is as average as you get. Not quick, not strong, not a great kick, just small and lucky to be anywhere near the RFC. Nason mark2
sheesh once again i find myself agreeing. to say mcdonough has got anywhere near what newman has done is laughable. im not sure about what he can become to compare him to nason seems harsh.
i think the real problem for us as a club moving forward is blokes like newman foley s edwards king vickery etc etc etc theres heaps of them.there is no real replacement for them at the same level atm.
to replace them with promising kids who have good attributes will mean a likely step backwards as they mature and gain experience. imo they the club just dont have the fortitude to do that.it seems its finals or bust which was always going to be a concern.
on ben nason well he should never ever have been drafted what a poor player.
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yes the signs haven't been great.....but its round 3
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Mcdonughts has passed him by
It's one thing to say Newey is struggling but to say Mcdonughts has gone past him crap. Mcdonughts as you call him is as average as you get. Not quick, not strong, not a great kick, just small and lucky to be anywhere near the RFC. Nason mark2
sheesh once again i find myself agreeing. to say mcdonough has got anywhere near what newman has done is laughable. im not sure about what he can become to compare him to nason seems harsh.
i think the real problem for us as a club moving forward is blokes like newman foley s edwards king vickery etc etc etc theres heaps of them.there is no real replacement for them at the same level atm.
to replace them with promising kids who have good attributes will mean a likely step backwards as they mature and gain experience. imo they the club just dont have the fortitude to do that.it seems its finals or bust which was always going to be a concern.
on ben nason well he should never ever have been drafted what a poor player.
Do you see anything in Mcdonoughts to suggest he will be any good? Sorry to say but I don't.
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Mcdonughts has passed him by
It's one thing to say Newey is struggling but to say Mcdonughts has gone past him crap. Mcdonughts as you call him is as average as you get. Not quick, not strong, not a great kick, just small and lucky to be anywhere near the RFC. Nason mark2
sheesh once again i find myself agreeing. to say mcdonough has got anywhere near what newman has done is laughable. im not sure about what he can become to compare him to nason seems harsh.
i think the real problem for us as a club moving forward is blokes like newman foley s edwards king vickery etc etc etc theres heaps of them.there is no real replacement for them at the same level atm.
to replace them with promising kids who have good attributes will mean a likely step backwards as they mature and gain experience. imo they the club just dont have the fortitude to do that.it seems its finals or bust which was always going to be a concern.
on ben nason well he should never ever have been drafted what a poor player.
Do you see anything in Mcdonoughts to suggest he will be any good? Sorry to say but I don't.
to be honest i havent really seen enough of him to make a decent informed call on him. i agree that he seems to lack pace though and for a small player that can be terminal.
the little i have seen i have never ever thought him to be a mid or would become onebut again without seeing more i cant confirm that impression.
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Mcdonughts has passed him by
It's one thing to say Newey is struggling but to say Mcdonughts has gone past him crap. Mcdonughts as you call him is as average as you get. Not quick, not strong, not a great kick, just small and lucky to be anywhere near the RFC. Nason mark2
sheesh once again i find myself agreeing. to say mcdonough has got anywhere near what newman has done is laughable. im not sure about what he can become to compare him to nason seems harsh.
i think the real problem for us as a club moving forward is blokes like newman foley s edwards king vickery etc etc etc theres heaps of them.there is no real replacement for them at the same level atm.
to replace them with promising kids who have good attributes will mean a likely step backwards as they mature and gain experience. imo they the club just dont have the fortitude to do that.it seems its finals or bust which was always going to be a concern.
on ben nason well he should never ever have been drafted what a poor player.
Do you see anything in Mcdonoughts to suggest he will be any good? Sorry to say but I don't.
Stopped reading when you said Mcdonughts is a poor kick. He's in the top 5 kicks at the club easily
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Mcdonughts has passed him by
It's one thing to say Newey is struggling but to say Mcdonughts has gone past him crap. Mcdonughts as you call him is as average as you get. Not quick, not strong, not a great kick, just small and lucky to be anywhere near the RFC. Nason mark2
sheesh once again i find myself agreeing. to say mcdonough has got anywhere near what newman has done is laughable. im not sure about what he can become to compare him to nason seems harsh.
i think the real problem for us as a club moving forward is blokes like newman foley s edwards king vickery etc etc etc theres heaps of them.there is no real replacement for them at the same level atm.
to replace them with promising kids who have good attributes will mean a likely step backwards as they mature and gain experience. imo they the club just dont have the fortitude to do that.it seems its finals or bust which was always going to be a concern.
on ben nason well he should never ever have been drafted what a poor player.
Do you see anything in Mcdonoughts to suggest he will be any good? Sorry to say but I don't.
to be honest i havent really seen enough of him to make a decent informed call on him. i agree that he seems to lack pace though and for a small player that can be terminal.
the little i have seen i have never ever thought him to be a mid or would become onebut again without seeing more i cant confirm that impression.
Fair call.
But I recon I have seen enough. Just my opinion but I don't need to see 100 games to make a call.
Its just so hard for a player of his height and lack of any real weapon to make it at this level.
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Mcdonughts has passed him by
It's one thing to say Newey is struggling but to say Mcdonughts has gone past him crap. Mcdonughts as you call him is as average as you get. Not quick, not strong, not a great kick, just small and lucky to be anywhere near the RFC. Nason mark2
sheesh once again i find myself agreeing. to say mcdonough has got anywhere near what newman has done is laughable. im not sure about what he can become to compare him to nason seems harsh.
i think the real problem for us as a club moving forward is blokes like newman foley s edwards king vickery etc etc etc theres heaps of them.there is no real replacement for them at the same level atm.
to replace them with promising kids who have good attributes will mean a likely step backwards as they mature and gain experience. imo they the club just dont have the fortitude to do that.it seems its finals or bust which was always going to be a concern.
on ben nason well he should never ever have been drafted what a poor player.
Do you see anything in Mcdonoughts to suggest he will be any good? Sorry to say but I don't.
Stopped reading when you said Mcdonughts is a poor kick. He's in the top 5 kicks at the club easily
Stop reading or stopped thinking. :thumbsup
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Mcdonughts has passed him by
It's one thing to say Newey is struggling but to say Mcdonughts has gone past him crap. Mcdonughts as you call him is as average as you get. Not quick, not strong, not a great kick, just small and lucky to be anywhere near the RFC. Nason mark2
sheesh once again i find myself agreeing. to say mcdonough has got anywhere near what newman has done is laughable. im not sure about what he can become to compare him to nason seems harsh.
i think the real problem for us as a club moving forward is blokes like newman foley s edwards king vickery etc etc etc theres heaps of them.there is no real replacement for them at the same level atm.
to replace them with promising kids who have good attributes will mean a likely step backwards as they mature and gain experience. imo they the club just dont have the fortitude to do that.it seems its finals or bust which was always going to be a concern.
on ben nason well he should never ever have been drafted what a poor player.
Do you see anything in Mcdonoughts to suggest he will be any good? Sorry to say but I don't.
Stopped reading when you said Mcdonughts is a poor kick. He's in the top 5 kicks at the club easily
and you hve confirmed this for yourself how. by watching him or by what others have had to say.
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The bloke has never been a captains sars hole.
Not his fault.
The club made a decision when they appointed him as one, to build the ensuing years on dud leaders rather than guys who lead by example.
Were suffering from this still.
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Mcdonughts has passed him by
It's one thing to say Newey is struggling but to say Mcdonughts has gone past him crap. Mcdonughts as you call him is as average as you get. Not quick, not strong, not a great kick, just small and lucky to be anywhere near the RFC. Nason mark2
sheesh once again i find myself agreeing. to say mcdonough has got anywhere near what newman has done is laughable. im not sure about what he can become to compare him to nason seems harsh.
i think the real problem for us as a club moving forward is blokes like newman foley s edwards king vickery etc etc etc theres heaps of them.there is no real replacement for them at the same level atm.
to replace them with promising kids who have good attributes will mean a likely step backwards as they mature and gain experience. imo they the club just dont have the fortitude to do that.it seems its finals or bust which was always going to be a concern.
on ben nason well he should never ever have been drafted what a poor player.
Do you see anything in Mcdonoughts to suggest he will be any good? Sorry to say but I don't.
Stopped reading when you said Mcdonughts is a poor kick. He's in the top 5 kicks at the club easily
and you hve confirmed this for yourself how. by watching him or by what others have had to say.
What would you know? You're a fan of Mcintosh :whistle
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Donut is a lot quicker than people give him credit for. Also in the first game was one of the few that was trying to give us run.
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Mcdonughts has passed him by
It's one thing to say Newey is struggling but to say Mcdonughts has gone past him crap. Mcdonughts as you call him is as average as you get. Not quick, not strong, not a great kick, just small and lucky to be anywhere near the RFC. Nason mark2
sheesh once again i find myself agreeing. to say mcdonough has got anywhere near what newman has done is laughable. im not sure about what he can become to compare him to nason seems harsh.
i think the real problem for us as a club moving forward is blokes like newman foley s edwards king vickery etc etc etc theres heaps of them.there is no real replacement for them at the same level atm.
to replace them with promising kids who have good attributes will mean a likely step backwards as they mature and gain experience. imo they the club just dont have the fortitude to do that.it seems its finals or bust which was always going to be a concern.
on ben nason well he should never ever have been drafted what a poor player.
Do you see anything in Mcdonoughts to suggest he will be any good? Sorry to say but I don't.
Stopped reading when you said Mcdonughts is a poor kick. He's in the top 5 kicks at the club easily
and you hve confirmed this for yourself how. by watching him or by what others have had to say.
What would you know? You're a fan of Mcintosh :whistle
I sure am i reckon he has most of the tools to succeed at afl level. what i am not silly enough to do is say he has achieved anything atm or would be a better option or he give more than the likes of newman atm.
im also a fan of helbig dea and miles. theres no guarantee any of those will be around for too long either. they are yet to prove a thing at afl level and will probably offer less than the likes of houli grigg foley etc if played in the short term.thats not to say i wouldnt like to see em get a games i would.
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Each game he played mcintosh was awful
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http://www.footywire.com/afl/footy/ft_player_compare?tid1=15&pid1=3835&tid2=15&pid2=334&type=A&fid1=S&fid2=S
http://www.footywire.com/afl/footy/ft_player_compare?tid1=15&pid1=3835&tid2=15&pid2=334&type=A&fid1=O&fid2=O
One stat McDonough has in his favour is 12 years and a graph that may improve.
Chris should be retired by now.
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I'd be happy with Nason mk.II....criminally underrated footballer who at least he ran his guts out and was a far smarter footballer than many dunderheads still on our list.
Worst player to play AFL. End of story.
Ignorant comment. Not even close. At least half a dozen worse on our list right now - better than half the current list purely on work ethic and football nouse alone.
This will be interesting if you have the balls to back up your comments, but I'm guess you won't.
Name at least 6 players worse than Nason on you list now?
Name the half of our team that he is better than on work ethic and footy nouse?
Cannot wait for this. :lol
too easy
Players worse than him:
Grigg
Dea
Helbig
O'Hanlon
Hamspud
McIntosh
As for players he was either smarter than , had a greater work ethic than or both....having thought about I'd actually revise my estimation from "half the list" to "most of the list" and so bearing that in mind and to save time....I'll just name the players he's not better than in those two areas:
Cotchin (both)
Riewoldt (both)
Martin (Smarts only)
Morris(Work ethic only)
Foley (work ethic only )
Maric (both)
Ellis (both including smarts-despite yesterdays stupidity)
Deledio(smarts only)
King (work ethic - smarts occassionally on par but generally not)
Thomas (work ethic only)
Vlastuin(both)
Newman (smarts only)
Jackson (work ethic only)
That is all.
oh...and just for fun & good measure...and seeing as you claimed he was the "worst player ever"....her's a list of players that were on the list at the same time, players no longer on the list that were retained for equal amount of time or longer or were drafted after him that he was also better than...
Nahas
Lonergan
A.Maric
Derickx
McGuane (yes I'm serious)
Graham
Gourdis
Post
Verrier
Wright
Webberly
McDonald
Thompson
Farmer
Hicks
Simon
Turner
Roberts
Silvester
Polo
Polak
Putt
I could go even further and included Richmond players of the last 20 years but frankly don't have the time and I doubt OER would have the bandwidth.
...like I said...too easy.....
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Chris has always been and honest footballer with limitations.
Should hang up the boots and be 'honourably discharged' from service IMO.
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Each game he played mcintosh was awful
i have no doubt hes been ordinary or even awful at times. but i still say he has the tools to make it at afl level as a running defender or third tall.
he has pace, good height 192cm and in time will be a good size,he reads the play well, makes good decisions, is a good kick and is accountable, all this as a junior. based on this i liked him as a junior and im sure as hell prepared to give time to develop before writing him off.
its amazing that people will write off totally a tall player who has all these good attributes imo, after a dozen vfl games of which he suffered his fair share of injury.like all kids with potential its now up to him to show he belongs but ffs i think we need to give him the time and proper opportunity to show what hes got. the same goes for mcdonough.
imo based on what ive seen of mcintosh as a junior and the little ive seen of mcdonough he has better attributes for the game than mcdonough, weather that translates into anything will be found out over the next two or three yrs. again i say this having seen little of mcdonough.
i have refused to write him mcdonough off, until i see more of him. like others i dont think hes very quick for a sml and like tony in the little ive seen of him im yet to see some outstanding attribute that will off set his lack of pace imo and size. you and others may well see things in him but until i see them for myself i cant talk up his attributes.
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I was being silly mcintosh plays zero times
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I was being silly mcintosh plays zero times
seems your silly most of the time.
can i ask you based on what you have obviously seen of mcdonough what are the good attributes that has you think he will be a player. it aint a hard questionare you prepared to back up what you have seen and say.
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I like the cut of his jib.
He looks a footballer.
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Come on Damien. Get real and shake this mob out of their slumber.
Hard decision time.
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Come on Damien. Get real and shake this mob out of their slumber.
Hard decision time.
Heard that for the first time ever Hardwick lost it at the players during half time and gave it to them with both barrels. Lets see if the anger turns into some serious ommissions from the side going forward.
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Come on Damien. Get real and shake this mob out of their slumber.
Hard decision time.
Heard that for the first time ever Hardwick lost it at the players during half time and gave it to them with both barrels. Lets see if the anger turns into some serious ommissions from the side going forward.
Very concerning if he's only just now lost it at them for the first time
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Come on Damien. Get real and shake this mob out of their slumber.
Hard decision time.
Heard that for the first time ever Hardwick lost it at the players during half time and gave it to them with both barrels. Lets see if the anger turns into some serious ommissions from the side going forward.
The spray worked because they lifted.
Time to see more of Damien Omen.
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Come on Damien. Get real and shake this mob out of their slumber.
Hard decision time.
Heard that for the first time ever Hardwick lost it at the players during half time and gave it to them with both barrels. Lets see if the anger turns into some serious ommissions from the side going forward.
Very concerning if he's only just now lost it at them for the first time
Maybe for the first time he is seeing his job in jeopardy......
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Come on Damien. Get real and shake this mob out of their slumber.
Hard decision time.
Heard that for the first time ever Hardwick lost it at the players during half time and gave it to them with both barrels. Lets see if the anger turns into some serious ommissions from the side going forward.
The spray worked because they lifted.
Time to see more of Damien Omen.
Won't work often
"This lent yelling again"
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Won't work often
No it won't.
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Come on Damien. Get real and shake this mob out of their slumber.
Hard decision time.
Heard that for the first time ever Hardwick lost it at the players during half time and gave it to them with both barrels. Lets see if the anger turns into some serious ommissions from the side going forward.
Very concerning if he's only just now lost it at them for the first time
Maybe for the first time he is seeing his job in jeopardy......
True
Job is safe until next April and so it should be.
Deserves another chance to get us into finals
Round 1-6 next year will be some serious intense media scrutiny, if we don't make finals this year
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I'd be happy with Nason mk.II....criminally underrated footballer who at least he ran his guts out and was a far smarter footballer than many dunderheads still on our list.
Worst player to play AFL. End of story.
Ignorant comment. Not even close. At least half a dozen worse on our list right now - better than half the current list purely on work ethic and football nouse alone.
This will be interesting if you have the balls to back up your comments, but I'm guess you won't.
Name at least 6 players worse than Nason on you list now?
Name the half of our team that he is better than on work ethic and footy nouse?
Cannot wait for this. :lol
too easy
Players worse than him:
Grigg
Dea
Helbig
O'Hanlon
Hamspud
McIntosh
As for players he was either smarter than , had a greater work ethic than or both....having thought about I'd actually revise my estimation from "half the list" to "most of the list" and so bearing that in mind and to save time....I'll just name the players he's not better than in those two areas:
Cotchin (both)
Riewoldt (both)
Martin (Smarts only)
Morris(Work ethic only)
Foley (work ethic only )
Maric (both)
Ellis (both including smarts-despite yesterdays stupidity)
Deledio(smarts only)
King (work ethic - smarts occassionally on par but generally not)
Thomas (work ethic only)
Vlastuin(both)
Newman (smarts only)
Jackson (work ethic only)
That is all.
oh...and just for fun & good measure...and seeing as you claimed he was the "worst player ever"....her's a list of players that were on the list at the same time, players no longer on the list that were retained for equal amount of time or longer or were drafted after him that he was also better than...
Nahas
Lonergan
A.Maric
Derickx
McGuane (yes I'm serious)
Graham
Gourdis
Post
Verrier
Wright
Webberly
McDonald
Thompson
Farmer
Hicks
Simon
Turner
Roberts
Silvester
Polo
Polak
Putt
I could go even further and included Richmond players of the last 20 years but frankly don't have the time and I doubt OER would have the bandwidth.
...like I said...too easy.....
:lol :lol :lol
That was awesome. Really funny stuff!
How is he doing now by the way? A player with so much talent must be dominating somewhere???
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Yep. Dioc, you gotta be Nason's dad or his mother. He was bloody woeful
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The worst thing he did was cut his hair short - it's as if Delilah cut his hair!
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Even my mother got angry watching Nason play and she's not a Richmond supporter. She called me during a game once and said "tell that long haired gimp to stop waving his arms around". She didn't actually say gimp but she said something insulting.
He really was woeful. Wasn't on his own back in those days though
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My only regret is that I forgot to include Collins, other than that I stand by my post 100% and humbly accept big tone's concession, veiled though it was.
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Another mediocre game from Newie. Did a couple of good things as you'd expect but meh overall.
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Its not that he's a bad player, its just that he is clearly not part of the future. Another player needs to be given his game time.
Been a good servant, just needs to make way now.
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Its not that he's a bad player, its just that he is clearly not part of the future. Another player needs to be given his game time.
Been a good servant, just needs to make way now.
disagree with the analogy.
another player needs to be given a game if newman is not performing to a good standard. no other reason.atm hes not performing to a consistent good standard and sure try someone else in his place.
if ivans not a part of the long term do we not play him again.
target the mature players for the right reasons and we do need mature players no matter where the list is at so lets cut or pick em on form eh.
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Bigger issues than Chris Newman.
Let's weed out players that don't want to tackle and chase first and move on down the line. Young, old, WGAF, if they don't want to be part of the most important part of the game, they go first.
Grigg
Ellis
Houli
We have already removed Vickory.
Then let's talk about replacing Newy.,
Conca has be putrid too but at least he has a crack, needs to pull his finger out but as I said, let's do it in order.
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What is the point of Chris getting games now?
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What is the point of Chris getting games now?
Did he play?
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What is the point of Chris getting games now?
Did he play?
Think so provided great leadership..
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What is the point of Chris getting games now?
To keep Miles out of the squad?
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What is the point of Chris getting games now?
leadership?
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What is the point of Chris getting games now?
To keep Miles out of the squad?
17 disposals at 100% efficiency today from Newy. If you had asked me before I saw the stats, I would have said he didn't get a kick all day.
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What is the point of Chris getting games now?
To keep Miles out of the squad?
17 disposals at 100% efficiency today from Newy. If you had asked me before I saw the stats, I would have said he didn't get a kick all day.
Its funny, people see the stats then call u nuts for questioning him. If you watch him closely he rarely if ever has an impact on a game. Game went past him a while ago
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Richmond ressies squad player. That's it. You limped your way through the second half of last season and played your final now play for the ressies. The club did you a favour now you do a favour for the club.
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Richmond ressies squad player. That's it. You limped your way through the second half of last season and played your final now play for the ressies. The club did you a favour now you do a favour for the club.
:clapping
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If Newman want to show true leadership he should stand up say "drop me, it's the best thing for this club"
Because Dimma won't drop him, so IMHO it's up to Newman to do the right thing and drop himself
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Why should he drop himself when Grigg gets a run
, rickey pettard
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Newman should retire mid week
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If Newman want to show true leadership he should stand up say "drop me, it's the best thing for this club"
Because Dimma won't drop him, so IMHO it's up to Newman to do the right thing and drop himself
WP showing leadership in opinions and alot of common sense :bow
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Why should he drop himself when Grigg gets a run
Because they we both favourites and neither will get dropped by the coach
Newman is supposed to be a leader of the Club. Sometimes leader need to make a stand
Grigg is no leader so he isn't going to sacrifice anything let alone himself
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Grigg is a best mate of Deledio and Deledio is a brown nose to the coaches. Good luck anything ever happening to Grigg when it's all jobs for the boys down there.
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Newman should retire mid week
Agree. With luck so will Grigg.
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How lucky is this guy that he used to captain the club?
Most underwhelming player in the league over 30.
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reckon if you look at the stats they back up what people are saying.
he is rarley given a job to do on dangerous forwards and quite often his opposite hurts us on the scoreboard.
hes laying just 2 .6 tackles a game, hes obtaining just 3 c/p a game. there a few 1% which implies hes not helping when he doesnt have the ball.
to top it off hes played in the middle a bit and hes going at just 14 disposals a game.
hes been played forward a bit and contributed just one goal all yr.
i can go on hes not rebounding off h/b much and hes not getting the ball inside 50 much. his kicking is supposed to be his strength yet its not being used where we need it.
its clear hes not having any impact on games at all, its hard to see what role hes even performing.
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Another, 1 decent season player who built a career out of it
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By any measure Petterd is ahead of Chris as a player in terms of value to the senior team now.
http://www.footywire.com/afl/footy/ft_player_compare?tid1=15&pid1=334&tid2=15&pid2=1748&type=A&fid1=S&fid2=S
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By any measure Petterd is ahead of Chris as a player in terms of value to the senior team now.
http://www.footywire.com/afl/footy/ft_player_compare?tid1=15&pid1=334&tid2=15&pid2=1748&type=A&fid1=S&fid2=S
Having said that, I would rather the ball in Newman's hands on a half back flank that Petterd's, Numbers of possessions do not indicate good or bad decisions.
He is still fortunate to be in the team. It really does show where we are at currently though…... :'(
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By any measure Petterd is ahead of Chris as a player in terms of value to the senior team now.
http://www.footywire.com/afl/footy/ft_player_compare?tid1=15&pid1=334&tid2=15&pid2=1748&type=A&fid1=S&fid2=S
Having said that, I would rather the ball in Newman's hands on a half back flank that Petterd's, Numbers of possessions do not indicate good or bad decisions.
He is still fortunate to be in the team. It really does show where we are at currently though…... :'(
Newman kicks a few good ones and a couple of bad ones too. He's got a reputation for being a good kick but he's not that great anymore in all truth. May look prettier off the boot but misses his share of targets as much as Petterd these days.
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Some of the oof by Newman this year have been horrid.
Skills have faded at the same rate as ability.
Will be handy in the ressies though where he'll have a little more time to think through things.
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By any measure Petterd is ahead of Chris as a player in terms of value to the senior team now.
http://www.footywire.com/afl/footy/ft_player_compare?tid1=15&pid1=334&tid2=15&pid2=1748&type=A&fid1=S&fid2=S
I agree with that and I don't rate petterd..
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Chris is looking older than he really is. His body is damaged from the rigors of AFL & l'm afraid his games are numbered to less then 10. he has been used to plug too many holes over the years.
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By any measure Petterd is ahead of Chris as a player in terms of value to the senior team now.
http://www.footywire.com/afl/footy/ft_player_compare?tid1=15&pid1=334&tid2=15&pid2=1748&type=A&fid1=S&fid2=S
I agree with that and I don't rate petterd..
More damning of Newman than good for rickster
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Newy's done a calf injury according to Ch 7.
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I only watched the last 2 1/2 quarters. He did some nice things.
But honestly it's time to LTI list him and promote Miles. Bring him back for a final game in the last round as we're missing the top 8...
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Is king on LTIL already ?
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He did do some nice things today (clever tap ons etc) but its time to look to the future.
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LTI: Elevate both Miles and Banfield!
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Poster boy for acceptance of mediocrity
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Did a couple of decent things again today but once again was largely a non event for most of the game.
McDonough has gone past him.
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Calf injuries for 30+ year olds are 'old man' injuries. Newy has been a loyal servant to the Club and was a good and underrated footballer in his prime but sadly this injury may be the one that ends his footy career here and now. You'd expect he was going to retire at the end of the season anyway.
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If hes got a 4 to 6 week injury he should retire from now and let the club move on and develop a younger player.
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Should now retire from senior footy but play reserves for the remainder of this year and next and help the kids. Hardly think this will happen. Can see us given how we played today winning about 4 by the time he comes back and then being rushed back into the side to the team's detriment.
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If you took him to a veterinarian. they'd put him down.
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Did a couple of decent things again today but once again was largely a non event for most of the game.
McDonough has gone past him.
reckon that sums him up just no impact.
still not sure on mcdonough. theres a lot of love for him and i still dont see it.
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If you took him to a veterinarian. they'd put him down.
:lol :rollin :lol
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If you took him to a veterinarian. they'd put him down.
:lol :bow
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They wouldn't even bother with, "Just take him home and give him all the love you have"
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They wouldn't even bother with, "Just take him home and give him all the love you have"
Ox that's one comment too many on the subject. Just euthanase. :lol :rollin :lol
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It's cruel not to
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Veteran Chris Newman tore his calf late in the game and is likely to be sidelined for at least a month.
Source: Herald-Sun (http://www.news.com.au/sport/afl/richmond-coach-damien-hardwick-proud-of-his-teams-fightback-against-geelong-wants-same-effort-for-rest-of-2014/story-fndv8t7m-1226905109088)
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Veteran Chris Newman tore his calf late in the game and is likely to be sidelined for at least a month.
Source: Herald-Sun (http://www.news.com.au/sport/afl/richmond-coach-damien-hardwick-proud-of-his-teams-fightback-against-geelong-wants-same-effort-for-rest-of-2014/story-fndv8t7m-1226905109088)
Sad to say that this is actually good for the side. Newman has been a great servant to the club but offers little leadership or quality to the team, basically has been keeping a kid out of the side.
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Sorry Newman but you were too gutless to call time on your career now the man upstairs has done it for you.
Your injury whilst not the best way to go out is the best thing to happen to our club.
Time to unleash another player like Astbury.
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From a Medical point of view, it looked a lot worse than a month. I would be surprised if he came back earlier than 6. I would even say longer but it's hard from the couch to be definitive. The vision of his calf on TV looked like a high grade calf tear though.
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Richmond veteran Chris Newman is set to miss up to six weeks due to a calf strain.
Former captain Newman suffered the injury in the fourth quarter of his AFL side's five-point defeat to Geelong.
Scans on Monday confirmed the 31-year-old had a medial calf strain, but the club is optimistic he will only be out for four to six weeks.
"This is the first soft-tissue injury Chris has had in his 12-year career," Richmond's elite performance manager Peter Burge said on Richmond's website.
"He's a good healer and is optimistic the injury won't keep him out of action for too long."
http://wwos.ninemsn.com.au/article.aspx?id=8840128
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Richmond veteran Chris Newman is set to miss up to six weeks due to a calf strain.
Former captain Newman suffered the injury in the fourth quarter of his AFL side's five-point defeat to Geelong.
Scans on Monday confirmed the 31-year-old had a medial calf strain, but the club is optimistic he will only be out for four to six weeks.
"This is the first soft-tissue injury Chris has had in his 12-year career," Richmond's elite performance manager Peter Burge said on Richmond's website.
"He's a blue healer and we are optimistic we can put him down."
http://wwos.ninemsn.com.au/article.aspx?id=8840128
EFA
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Missed his chance at the end of last year to retire gracefully
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Time to give him his favourite meal and take him out the back.
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Calf injuries for the old.
Thanks for the memories Chris, another honorable captain during an awful time in our history. Played some very good games.
Play the kids
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Played some very good games.
Even if spaced apart
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Really admire Chris Newman, but seriously lets move on. Whats the point in coming back for 8 or so weeks at the end of the seasopn just to retire. Get some games into the future generation and sorry to say chuck Jakey King in there also.
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Calf injuries for the old.
Thanks for the memories Chris, another honorable captain during an awful time in our history. Played some very good games.
Play the kids
Exactly this. Yes he isn't Luke Hodge, but the things he did off the field when the club was up poo creek can not be underestimated. Yes his body is cooked but he captained the club and was one of a handful of players which tried to keep the club together when everything in the club went to sheet. I hope he thinks about what's best for the club whilst he's sidelined and hopefully we can get Miles or at the very least Lennon in.
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Missed his chance at the end of last year to retire gracefully
Agree with this. I wasn't happy though when he played in the final either when clearly not fit.
Yes it would have been extraordinarily unlucky because he played such a long time without one but it was a very poor decision to play him by all involved.
Emotion overruled common sense.
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Played some very good games.
Even if spaced apart
Like our ars cheeks when we played the hawks
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Played some very good games.
Even if spaced apart
Like our ars cheeks when we played the hawks
Were you hanging out with Coach
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"but the club is optimistic he will only be out for four to six weeks."
That"s totally an oxymoron
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Injured Tiger Newman hopes to play on in 2015
Matt Thompson
afl.com.au
May 12, 2014
RICHMOND veteran Chris Newman says his recovery from a calf injury is "progressing well" and he's hopeful of returning to play within a month.
Newman suffered a medial strain to his right calf during the Tigers' five-point loss to Geelong in round seven.
He was initially expected to miss up to six weeks but Newman doesn't believe it will be that long.
"I don't think it'd be anywhere near six," Newman told AFL.com.au on Monday.
"(I'm) looking to miss maybe three or four, just depending on how it heals up - hopefully it's a bit quicker.
"It's the type of injury that we won't rush, it's just a bit frustrating at the moment, not ideal but (I) just have to do what's required and hopefully get back OK.
"We'll probably a bit of light walking this week and then hopefully I'll be able to have a bit of a jog by the end of this week."
The former Richmond captain, 31, is out of contact at the end of the season but is keen to play on in 2015. He doesn't think the setback will hamper his prospects of another season.
"I know that this injury isn't ideal but certainly if I'm mentally and physically able to play on then I think I will," Newman said.
"(It's) always dependent on whether I'm still required at the club and whether I'm holding anyone back."
Newman has played 240 games for the Tigers since making his debut in 2002.
http://www.afl.com.au/news/2014-05-12/newman-eyes-2015
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Taking the pee.
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He could be a mature age rookie if he wants to..... ;)
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240 game veteran.
Was he picked this week so he could reach 250 games by season end?
Of course not, "there's no sentiment in footy".
Must be cherry ripe, then... ;) :-\
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Absolute joke he's come straight back into the side.
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Actually not sure if I'm more angry at the coaches who selected him
Or with Newman for not saying "best I come back via the VFL", that's what a real "leader" would do ::)
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240 game veteran.
Was he picked this week so he could reach 250 games by season end?
Of course not, "there's no sentiment in footy".
Must be cherry ripe, then... ;) :-\
Exactly what I was going to type, if he makes 250. I think thats it for him tbh
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“It’s good that Newy is back after missing four or five weeks with his calf,” Tigers’ assistant coach Danny Daly told Roar Vision’s ‘Spotlight’
“He’s trained the house down the last couple of weeks and gives us a bit of experience out there and a bit of run.
“Whether we play him forward or back, not sure yet, but he’s a welcome addition to the side.”
FULL VIDEO: http://www.richmondfc.com.au/video/2014-06-12/spotlight-on-round-13
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Why don't we play him in the ruck, he seemingly can do no wrong
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changing at FF
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Actually not sure if I'm more angry at the coaches who selected him
Or with Newman for not saying "best I come back via the VFL", that's what a real "leader" would do ::)
Cant say Im surprised. Last years selection in the elim final was a disgrace. Watching him limping around all game whilst we were down a man from the 3rd minute just made me seethe
grrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr
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I was seething too mate.
Grrrrrrrrrrrr
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240 game veteran.
Was he picked this week so he could reach 250 games by season end?
Of course not, "there's no sentiment in footy".
Must be cherry ripe, then... ;) :-\
Really played injured in a final last year. Selfish on his part sentimenal and stupid by the club.
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Wonder what Presti would've thought?
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Beautiful momentum killing kicking backwards
Just what our club needs
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Thank you RFC for prolonging his career. :help
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Gun :clapping boy o boy we've missed him, makes a massive difference this jet
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Absolutely he's like a leper judging a beauty contest. :thumbsup
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by far best on ground today, sign him up for 3 more years now
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Beautiful momentum killing kicking backwards
Just what our club needs
He's a master exponent :thumbsup
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by far best on ground today, sign him up for 3 more years now
Yesssss give this guy the meat tray :shh :thumbsup
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Beautiful momentum killing kicking backwards
Just what our club needs
He's a master exponent :thumbsup
..and lo, Wayne begat Joel begat Chris begat Shaun begat Brandon....
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Beautiful momentum killing kicking backwards
Just what our club needs
He's a master exponent :thumbsup
..and lo, Wayne begat Joel begat Chris begat Shaun begat Brandon....
Ahhh!
The Plop brothers.
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Have some pride and fo, thing is better than half the list? Wtf do you do?
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Maybe give him a game in the twos - before u drop donuts?
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Have some pride and fo, thing is better than half the list? Wtf do you do?
Sack Hardwick ;D
It's HIS list
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He kicked a goal today. There's a 3 yr contract coming up now. :help
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he was actually good.................twice
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Just got an email from the club that Newman is a chance to return this week..hurrah. :P
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what's he done to deserve selection?
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Just got an email from the club that Newman is a chance to return this week..hurrah. :P
Yep throw in Jackson too and the favourites mantra is on track for this week ;D
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it's because he's so good...
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and in the quarter second, he'll do a shoulder
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Just got an email from the club that Newman is a chance to return this week..hurrah. :P
Yep throw in Jackson too and the favourites mantra is on track for this week ;D
At least Jackson has shown some kind of form this year...I guess
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This bloke getting games over youth when his body is crumbling around him has just stuffen gotta be explained by fuckwick this week.
IMBECILE.
HTF can he spruke such poo as "from here in u have to earn your spot"
As if making a point of it being necessary at round 13 wasnt bad enough.
YOU stuffed IT WITH YOUR STUPID TOP UPS U DUMB idiot
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Farewell game in round 23 I could handle (just).
Anything else is killing off development of younger options.
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Newman is a bit like Hardwick.
Good bloke, has tried hard and given great service, but is no longer the right option.
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No longer required
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Not according to our coach - just heard his presser and he's hoping Chris gets through training today to come back into the side on sunday bc "hes a very good player for us"
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Not according to our coach - just heard his presser and he's hoping Chris gets through training today to come back into the side on sunday bc "hes a very good player for us"
He's like "our" Ablett !
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Not according to our coach
Him too...
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I really dont get this in light of the earn your place claim.
Surely coming back via the vfl is all part of earning your place, as one cant be judged on matches they HAVEN'T played
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Chris Newman limping to 250 games.
Then a 3 yr contract and 300 here he come. :help
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Newman hasn't earned his spot for about 12 months.
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Chris is a very good player us. Pls be nice.
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Buddy Newman
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No final call, but Tiger Newman keen on 2015 return
Nat Edwards
afl.com.au
July 14, 2014
RICHMOND veteran Chris Newman is yet to make a firm decision on his future but hopes his ageing body will allow him to play on next year.
The 32-year-old is out of contract at the end of the season after signing a 12-month extension in June last year.
The former Tigers skipper hasn't set a timeframe on making a final call but he will sit down with the club in the coming weeks to discuss his future.
Click here for full match coverage
"It's a conversation I need to have with the club, and I haven't had that yet," Newman told AFL.com.au.
"At the moment I'm concentrating on playing and getting my body right and being able to play each week.
"I'm hoping it will be an obvious decision if my body holds up well. So we'll just see how we go."
Newman is currently in his 13th AFL season, and has only managed 10 games this year after missing five weeks with a calf injury and another week with a groin complaint.
While the prospect of another gruelling pre-season isn't all that enticing, he says mental fatigue won't be a consideration when he contemplates carrying on into 2015.
"I don't look forward to pre-seasons too much," Newman said.
"But it's not really mental, it's more a physical thing. The body has held up well this year, I've had a couple of minor soft tissue injuries so hopefully they're just isolated incidents and I can get through the rest of the season."
In a season that has fallen well short of expectations at Punt Road, Newman said Sunday's 20-point win over premiership contender Port Adelaide was a clear highlight.
"No doubt [it's the best win of the season]," he said.
"It was going to be a really big challenge for us to beat Port, they're obviously a top four team. We feel like we've been playing some really good footy but haven't really got the reward for effort.
"But it was a really good win ... it means a lot to win that one."
http://www.afl.com.au/news/2014-07-14/tiger-not-keen-to-call-time
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A smart club wouldn't even give him the option.
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Extremely selfish of the New-Man. If he wants to stay involved he should be a leader at the VFL and get the kids through. But absolutely by any means should he be filling a spot which a youngster could/should fill.
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wont be ideal for the development of your lennon, arnot, dea, mcintosh, mcdonut types. Those of which are nae delisted
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Five weeks with a calf = too old.
Time to move on. Newman should recognise that...
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God bless the stalwart, hope they erect a statue of him
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If he wants an extra year, the club will give it to him - our club wont make the tough calls, too stuffing gutless
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"I don't look forward to pre-seasons too much," Newman said.
#Leadership
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Talk to Darren Glass and then go gracefully with your dignity intact and a great relationship with a club that respects you.
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Talk to Darren Glass and then go gracefully with your dignity intact and a great relationship with a club that respects you.
x 100
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Talk to Darren Glass and then go gracefully with your dignity intact and a great relationship with a club that respects you.
x 100
x100 = 10000
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wce have a dilemma and yes its off topic but not as far off topic as most think.
wce have a dilemma with dean cox. this bloke should retire or if he refuses be forced to retire.
the eagles have a bloke called lycett and while hes not taken games apart hes just getting slowly better and better. this kid is just what 21 hes ready to play regular senior footy he needs the opportunity hes damn good enough a blind man can see it.yet wce risk losing this kid if they continue to play cox in his stead. he will stay an eagle if they can give him a game other wise he will end up at p/a and it wont cost em too much. to me coxy has been in serious decline for two seasons hes still a decent player but father time is catching up real quick.
sometimes common sense says make the hard call and force the club great to retire.
we are similar with newman. but instead of talking about a great of the game we are talking about a foot soldier. a foot soldier who has no real role left we need to play and look at some kids who we hope to be more than just foot soldiers down back and fwd. i dont believe there is a midfield role for newman. not any more anyway. what is hard for all clubs to do is possible take a small step backwards to take a big step fwd. playing lycett is most definately a big long term step fwd but cox right now is probably the slightly better performer.
newman if played fwd will take games off lennon lloyd even ohanlon who i think wont make it but woukld like for us to have a good look at. play him back and he could keep someone like mcintosh out of the side next yr. with him even though he may marginally offer more it is time to if need be take a small step back and play some younger blokes who we think can play a bit.
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Spot on Claw. :thumbsup
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His spot needs to be opened up for a decent queue forming , arnot, McDonough , Lennon, dea , you name it ...RETiRE newy :shh
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Given nothing for years
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Hayes / glass
Do what is best for respective clubs
King / newy
Stuff it I think I'll keep going
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I blame dimmer for 50% of this
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Hayes / glass
Do what is best for respective clubs
King / newy
Stuff it I think I'll keep going
Ironic given that these two blokes apparently had a bit to do with the departure of Terry Wallace when he lost the playing group's faith.
That they should do something so extraordinary/odd, for the betterment of the club, and then decide they want to keep pushing on when they're clearing done and need to be replaced by kids is ridiculous.
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Hayes / glass
Do what is best for respective clubs
King / newy
Stuff it I think I'll keep going
Standards....
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Even Maxwell :banghead
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"“I think it’s time for me to hand the baton to the next group of young players coming through,’’
Ex capt announcing his retirement
“Xx is an outstanding leader for this football club and his decision now is about giving a younger player an opportunity as he feels it’s the right thing for the team.’’
Coach
Guess the club?
A clue, it's not Richmond
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"“I think it’s time for me to hand the baton to the next group of young players coming through,’’
Ex capt announcing his retirement
“Xx is an outstanding leader for this football club and his decision now is about giving a younger player an opportunity as he feels it’s the right thing for the team.’’
Coach
Guess the club?
A clue, it's not Richmond
Is it some crap club that we beat last weekend?
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"“I think it’s time for me to hand the baton to the next group of young players coming through,’’
Ex capt announcing his retirement
“Xx is an outstanding leader for this football club and his decision now is about giving a younger player an opportunity as he feels it’s the right thing for the team.’’
Coach
Guess the club?
A clue, it's not Richmond
Is it some crap club that we beat last weekend?
The one that's currently fifth, could still finish top 4, was leading the comp for most of the year and went a week deeper into the finals than us last year?
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Newman to announce retirement soon.
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His spot needs to be opened up for a decent queue forming , arnot, McDonough , Lennon, dea , you name it ...RETiRE newy :shh
hmm looking at that queue maybe i need to change tack. hhhhhaaaarrrrrgggggghhhhhhhhhh
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Newy's 250th next Saturday :clapping
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Chris Newman’s substitution in Sunday’s win against St Kilda was a precautionary move, according to Richmond coach Damien Hardwick.
Newman was the leading possession-winner on the ground with 21 (and a team-high five tackles), when he was handed the red vest during the third quarter of the Tigers’ 26-point win over the Saints.
However, the veteran defender is expected to lace up the boots for his 250th career match against the Sydney Swans this Saturday.
“He was just a little bit sore. It was probably like a couple of guys, we just left them on the bench toward the end there,” Hardwick said after the game.
Full article: http://www.richmondfc.com.au/news/2014-08-25/newman-rests-up-ahead-of-major-milestone
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Nice way to go out, well done Chris.
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Most important game of the year, no place for sentiment
It cost us last year when he wasn't right to play. Can't afford the same mistake this time.
And I reckon his 20 odd touches on the weekend are mighty misleading
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should be cherry ripe for his rig to poo itself in the first final :thumbsup
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I thought he was meant to be a good kick?
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Kicks one OTF per game, still doesn't win much of his own ball, cheap possessions usually in space and still manages to miss targets.
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Most important game of the year, no place for sentiment
It cost us last year when he wasn't right to play. Can't afford the same mistake this time.
And I reckon his 20 odd touches on the weekend are mighty misleading
Played pretty well on the weekend WP.
Has been a very good player and servant of our club for a long time. I cannot believe peoples comments on a bloke like Newy. Has bled yellow and black for 250 games and deserves his spot in our side at the moment. If Gordon and Pettard are getting a game then Newy should be too. IMO of course.
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Played very well no doubt
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Most important game of the year, no place for sentiment
It cost us last year when he wasn't right to play. Can't afford the same mistake this time.
And I reckon his 20 odd touches on the weekend are mighty misleading
Played pretty well on the weekend WP.
Has been a very good player and servant of our club for a long time. I cannot believe peoples comments on a bloke like Newy. Has bled yellow and black for 250 games and deserves his spot in our side at the moment. If Gordon and Pettard are getting a game then Newy should be too. IMO of course.
bt, understand your point but I don't think we can afford to get all sentimental like we did with him last year in the final.
If he isn't fit to go then he should miss. Ditto any other player
As for Sunday, his disposal at times was pretty average (granted wasnt alone on that one ;D) and he again looked slow. Which has been the biggest knock a lot of us have had on him this year
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Kicks one OTF per game, still doesn't win much of his own ball, cheap possessions usually in space and still manages to miss targets.
Had two this week, he's getting worse
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Most important game of the year, no place for sentiment
It cost us last year when he wasn't right to play. Can't afford the same mistake this time.
And I reckon his 20 odd touches on the weekend are mighty misleading
Played pretty well on the weekend WP.
Has been a very good player and servant of our club for a long time. I cannot believe peoples comments on a bloke like Newy. Has bled yellow and black for 250 games and deserves his spot in our side at the moment. If Gordon and Pettard are getting a game then Newy should be too. IMO of course.
bt, understand your point but I don't think we can afford to get all sentimental like we did with him last year in the final.
If he isn't fit to go then he should miss. Ditto any other player
As for Sunday, his disposal at times was pretty average (granted wasnt alone on that one ;D) and he again looked slow. Which has been the biggest knock a lot of us have had on him this year
It's funny how differently people see the same player in the same game.
Might be hard to believe but he is still one of the quickest over 10 at the club.
If he is fit he plays, pretty simple really :cheers
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If he does play, I only hope if he takes the kick outs, he kicks it to the advantage of his team mates not the opposistion :banghead
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Newy's 250th ....
VIDEO: http://www.richmondfc.com.au/video/2014-08-28/newmans-250th
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Most important game of the year, no place for sentiment
It cost us last year when he wasn't right to play. Can't afford the same mistake this time.
And I reckon his 20 odd touches on the weekend are mighty misleading
Played pretty well on the weekend WP.
Has been a very good player and servant of our club for a long time. I cannot believe peoples comments on a bloke like Newy. Has bled yellow and black for 250 games and deserves his spot in our side at the moment. If Gordon and Pettard are getting a game then Newy should be too. IMO of course.
If it was Richo playing 250, everyone would be up and about.
it's Newman tho.
See how that works....
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Tributes from Richo and Lids for Newy ...
http://www.richmondfc.com.au/news/2014-08-29/old-mates-rate-newy
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yeh...well done chris......
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If he's held in as high regard as what is reported, hopefully they'll get up for him
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If he's held in as high regard as what is reported, hopefully they'll get up for him
Tom Hafey says hello
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If he's held in as high regard as what is reported, hopefully they'll get up for him
Tom Hafey says hello
Hmm. That would be a tad difficult!
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if any one here was honest after watching the syd game they would agree we made a mistake offering newy another yr. imo he has kept us from giving the likes of dea and helbig a game.
hes not a fwd or a mid and we just dont get enough out of him and the errors are becoming a real problem. and imo we are at a stage where we need to play the younger blokes in his stead.
this is another example of the club failing to make hard decisions which in this case should not be a hard call to make.
we enter into the first uncompromised draft in yrs yet i can see us useing just 3 nd picks.
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if any one here was honest after watching the syd game they would agree we made a mistake offering newy another yr. imo he has kept us from giving the likes of dea and helbig a game.
hes not a fwd or a mid and we just dont get enough out of him and the errors are becoming a real problem. and imo we are at a stage where we need to play the younger blokes in his stead.
this is another example of the club failing to make hard decisions which in this case should not be a hard call to make.
we enter into the first uncompromised draft in yrs yet i can see us useing just 3 nd picks.
This is Richmond - sentiment > common sense.
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Agreed entirely.
Played a solid game the week prior before getting subbed off. Gets a contract. Cost us one terrible goal and damned near more VS Sydney. Saw him get crunched without shirking once which is great but not enough.
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Yep still tough at it but offers nothing else
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Is everybody ready for Chris's stellar 2015 season?
He'll make Richo's last year look like auskick, as he polls a shitload in the brownlow.
Good times ahead........ :facepalm
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no other player since mcmahon has made more me more peeed off to watch.
To watch blokes like matty dea most likely get delisted while this hack parades around doing SFA, is disappointing and a reason why we are where we are as a footy club.
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Far better player than grigg
Kicks flatter
Doesn't shirk contest
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That's about as much sense as you've made judge, people don't realise that newy is a revered figure in football circles , he s made a massive contribution to the RFC and we re fortunate to have him :shh
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Oh well at least we will have something to bitch about and it may take a bit of the bagging away from one of the kids
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Far better player than grigg
Kicks flatter
Doesn't shirk contest
but loses the contest or turns ball over form kick in or can't run in last quarter
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I hate Chris so much
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what sort of a deluded fool would take another year after a career of pure rubbish?
What sort of imbeciles offer it?
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The main issue that I have with Newy is that he falls over more often than a first year player and his body breaks down more easily than an Easter egg.
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Far better player than grigg
Kicks flatter
Doesn't shirk contest
but loses the contest or turns ball over form kick in or can't run in last quarter
Yeah, like I said.
Far better option than grigg.
It you want a modern day Benny hill rewatch the season and focus on grigg 1v1 ccontents
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Far better player than grigg
Kicks flatter
Doesn't shirk contest
but loses the contest or turns ball over form kick in or can't run in last quarter
Yeah, like I said.
Far better option than grigg.
It you want a modern day Benny hill rewatch the season and focus on grigg 1v1 ccontents
they are both rubbish judge.
Newman plays the Houli role and i have said for years we should be playing only one of that type.
At the end of the day we have newman/houli hawks have burgoyne in that same role. Thats the difference between playing in a GF and being a middle of the road side which we are.
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Yep.
Both garbage
Newman worse tho as he's had longer to become someone
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Grigg is 27 next season
I think this is as good as it gets with Shaun
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Personally think Grigg offers a lot more than Newman at this stage of their careers and that's not saying much.
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people knew when we got grigg that he was an upgrade with plenty of weknesses in his game and that in time he himself would have to be upgraded.
the question i ask. is he in the bottom 6 to 8 worst players on the list proper.and is it indeed time to upgrade the upgrade. seems not. sort of says a lot about how our list has progressed.
i continually hear this sort of thing where we say, cant cut grggy hes not the worst by far. trouble is grigg is at his ceiling and we would be better off trying a younger bloke who has upside.
we just point blank refuse to make calls on these types.
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Grigg is 27 next season
I think this is as good as it gets with Shaun
peaked in 2012
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just
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in round 4
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people knew when we got grigg that he was an upgrade with plenty of weknesses in his game and that in time he himself would have to be upgraded.
the question i ask. is he in the bottom 6 to 8 worst players on the list proper.and is it indeed time to upgrade the upgrade. seems not. sort of says a lot about how our list has progressed.
i continually hear this sort of thing where we say, cant cut grggy hes not the worst by far. trouble is grigg is at his ceiling and we would be better off trying a younger bloke who has upside.
we just point blank refuse to make calls on these types.
putting aside how coontract status can affect delisting, the notion of delisting the weakest links is sound.
if you get rid of the middle tier players, while leaving the weaker player, you have made your list weaker.
the problem is not so much that they hang onto these type of players too long, but cant get the list to the point that they are weakest link.
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people knew when we got grigg that he was an upgrade with plenty of weknesses in his game and that in time he himself would have to be upgraded.
the question i ask. is he in the bottom 6 to 8 worst players on the list proper.and is it indeed time to upgrade the upgrade. seems not. sort of says a lot about how our list has progressed.
i continually hear this sort of thing where we say, cant cut grggy hes not the worst by far. trouble is grigg is at his ceiling and we would be better off trying a younger bloke who has upside.
we just point blank refuse to make calls on these types.
putting aside how coontract status can affect delisting, the notion of delisting the weakest links is sound.
if you get rid of the middle tier players, while leaving the weaker player, you have made your list weaker.
the problem is not so much that they hang onto these type of players too long, but cant get the list to the point that they are weakest link.
sheesh i agree. whats going on here. thats a common sense approach. imo there are circumstances where you can and probably should cut into those middle tier players though.
i reckon a big part of the problem in why we keep these types so long is as you say they arent the weakest links but close to it but as middle tier players no one else wants em so we cant even trade em out.
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RICHMOND veteran Chris Newman is still uncertain whether he will play on into a 16th AFL season in 2016.
The 33-year-old missed six games with a groin strain earlier in the year, but has now strung consecutive games together against the Sydney Swans and Greater Western Sydney.
He also missed round four with a back issue, while he suffered an abnormal heart rhythm at training prior to the season.
Newman, who has played 258 games for the Tigers since making his debut in 2002, said he would wait to see how this season panned out before making a call on next year.
"I'm not sure yet. Obviously I'd like to play out the season. I'd have to be playing some pretty good football to go on again, but I'm not thinking about it too much," Newman said on Tuesday.
However, the defender said the groin issue that was bothering him earlier in the season has not caused him any concerns upon his return.
"I haven't felt any groin pain for a couple of weeks now. It was very niggly for the first part of the season and to play pain free is a real bonus," Newman said.
"I'll have to stay on top of that with strength work, especially at my age. I've got to try to keep my body fresh."
Meanwhile, Newman nominated Shaun Hampson as one of the options to replace suspended ruckman Ivan Maric.
"He's been playing some really good football in the VFL so he'll no doubt be putting his hand up," Newman said.
Newman and his Tiger teammates put star Carolina Panthers quarterback Cam Newton through his paces during Tuesday's training run.
Newton, who is in Australia as part of a sponsorship deal with Gatorade, has spoken to the Tigers about leadership.
"He spoke to the leadership group about his experiences and it's been an eye-opener for us and something we've learned a lot out of," Newman said.
Chris Newman and Carolina Panthers quarterback Cam Newton get acquainted. Picture: AFL Media
Newton said he had never watched a game of AFL before attending the Collingwood-Hawthorn game at the MCG on Friday night and then the Tigers' clash with Greater Western Sydney on Saturday.
"It's an extremely physical game," Newton said.
"In our sport, they're constantly putting things on you to protect you. In this sport, they're taking things away.
"All they're wearing is a tank top and a pair of boxers (boxer shorts) and going out there and giving it all they have which makes them courageous."
Newton said he was impressed with the Tigers' professionalism.
"Their effort was epic," he said. "After watching film with the coaches, Chris stood out on one particular play where he dived for the ball and then ran anywhere up to 20 yards to tackle a defender to set up a goal."
http://www.afl.com.au/news/2015-07-07/tiger-newman-not-ruling-out-one-more-season
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2 MORE YEARS!!!!! :thumbsup :thumbsup :gotigers
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I would hope the club would ensure the ultimate decision is not Chris Newman's
He is no longer in our best 22, last week again proved that.
Clubs have to make tough calls on ageing players every year.
Time has come for the Tigers to make the tough call.
I hope they have the courage to do it
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Can we bring in Kane Cornes as Newman's mentor, maybe he can convince him to do the right thing. To be honest Cornes would be a far better proposition in our current side than the invisible Newman.
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Another year? You've got to be kidding.
What the actual eff??? :gobdrop
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The fact he is intimating that it is his decision so publicly is an issue. Tail wagging dog and crapping in his owners face
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Meanwhile, Newman nominated Shaun Hampson as one of the options to replace suspended ruckman Ivan..................
:facepalm :facepalm :facepalm :facepalm :facepalm
33 year old hacks shouldn't be permitted to talk to the media regarding their future.
He's totally deluded if he thinks he has the right to play another season, let alone this one.
Please, put him out of his misery someone.
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You don't andashould wish it upon any one. But an injury will do the job. Not what I'm asking for but if it happens then I think time is up and we get what we ultimately wish for.
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Nancy Kerrigan
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I would hope the club would ensure the ultimate decision is not Chris Newman's
He is no longer in our best 22, last week again proved that.
Clubs have to make tough calls on ageing players every year.
Time has come for the Tigers to make the tough call.
I hope they have the courage to do it
Well said :clapping
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Exactly. How's Geelong flicking Chapman? First season for Essendon averages 20 touches and 1.1 goal/game. Clearly still had a solid 1-2 years left in him - looking worse for wear now but so is the entire team.
And we're letting Newman decide...FMD.
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Determined to continue his legacy off utter selfishness and no doubt the club will continue it's legacy of sentimental stupidity and accomodate him. Can't have "Newy" missing out on any future glories.
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The only half (emphasis on half, but could be lower) benefit of Newman on the list next year is that a portion of his salary is outside the cap. Is that still a rule?
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(http://31.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_l9xzj0pGCH1qztjn5o1_500.jpg)
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Nancy Kerrigan
Milo Kerrigan
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:facepalm :facepalm
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Exactly. How's Geelong flicking Chapman? First season for Essendon averages 20 touches and 1.1 goal/game. Clearly still had a solid 1-2 years left in him - looking worse for wear now but so is the entire team.
And we're letting Newman decide...FMD.
Chappies inout to the game over the last 5 years eclipses Neman's.
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Newman CGAGF!
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The only half (emphasis on half, but could be lower) benefit of Newman on the list next year is that a portion of his salary is outside the cap. Is that still a rule?
Yes still in place
But that's not a good enough reason IMHO
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Still less selfish than jacko and his finals retirement
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Newman is done and dusted, if he played with the intensity of King Kong, he can play, but he is expecting a game for no reason, he has the intensity of a dead frog and is as fast as a wet Ugg boot full of cement, IMO he was an average leader ( irrespective of what David Confetti believes) and is a passenger that we cannot afford.
Has he seen the movie Old Yeller?, its back paddock time for Newy, he should do the team thing and retire gracefully, preferably now.
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oh look he's a great influence around the club and brings invaluable experience...
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oh look he's a great influence around the club and brings invaluable experience...
sorry i forgot about that :whistle :lol :shh :banghead
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Settle everyone. Nowhere in the article does it suggest that he wants play another season at Richmond.
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Settle everyone. Nowhere in the article does it suggest that he wants play another season at Richmond.
I think the article says he hasn't decided if he intends to. Which means he hasn't ruled it out or in
My point was and still is it shouldn't be his decision to make, it must be taken out of his hands
Whether he wants to go on cannot be his decision, it must be the Clubs
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Settle everyone. Nowhere in the article does it suggest that he wants play another season at Richmond.
I think the article says he hasn't decided if he intends to. Which means he hasn't ruled it out or in
My point was and still is it shouldn't be his decision to make, it must be taken out of his hands
Whether he wants to go on cannot be his decision, it must be the Clubs
There was some audio yesterday on SEN of Chris discussing, in fairness to him he didn't seem overly confident that he would be and almost mentioned that he would have to work very to retain a spot in the team. Or something similar to those words.
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Work very hard?
LMAO
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Work very hard?
LMAO
Maybe he's taking the pee out of ORR poster's :lol
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Newy on the Talking Tigers podcast ....
AUDIO: http://www.richmondfc.com.au/news/2015-07-21/talking-tigers-episode-19-2015
* It was sort of a better game on the weekend. I’ve been pretty disappointed the last couple of weeks and almost embarrassed with my output on the field. So, I was really keen to rectify that and get a little bit more time forward and stay in the one position.
* It was good to hit the scoreboard and that’s probably the expectation going forward. Playing forward, you’ve obviously got to put a lot of pressure on, but also you’ve got to hit the scoreboard. If you’re going to keep your position up forward, you’ve got to kick goals. So that’s one thing I’ll be focusing on.
* The last couple of weeks I’ve been getting caught in between contests and haven’t been getting to a lot of front-and-squares and that sort of thing. It’s something I’ll continually work on. But the one thing that I try and maintain is pressure around the footy. I feel like I can bring that each week.
* It was just niggly early on but it has gone. We’ve managed to get on top of it which is good. So, it’s just about maintaining that and keeping my strength. I’ve just got to try and keep nice and fresh now.
Full article: http://www.richmondfc.com.au/news/2015-07-22/newman-to-use-saints-as-a-springboard
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* It was sort of a better game on the weekend. I’ve been pretty disappointed the last couple of weeks and almost embarrassed with my output on the field. So, I was really keen to rectify that and get a little bit more time forward and stay in the one position.
Hmmmm no it was sort of not a better game if you were being brutally honest. A goal does't make it "sort of a better game"
As for being embarrassed with your output - well again TBBH you should be and perhaps you should of put your hand up and said the coaches "I don't deserve my spot right now"
You know show a bit of leadership
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Embarrassed, ?
A call up to VFL level is required, even then he would be a sub. Seriously he would not get a game with any AFL team.
He should just retire gracefully.
Agree wirh your leadership comment WP
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* It was sort of a better game on the weekend. I’ve been pretty disappointed the last couple of weeks and almost embarrassed with my output on the field. So, I was really keen to rectify that and get a little bit more time forward and stay in the one position.
Hmmmm no it was sort of not a better game if you were being brutally honest. A goal does't make it "sort of a better game"
As for being embarrassed with your output - well again TBBH you should be and perhaps you should of put your hand up and said the coaches "I don't deserve my spot right now"
You know show a bit of leadership
:clapping
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* It was sort of a better game on the weekend. I’ve been pretty disappointed the last couple of weeks and almost embarrassed with my output on the field. So, I was really keen to rectify that and get a little bit more time forward and stay in the one position.
Hmmmm no it was sort of not a better game if you were being brutally honest. A goal does't make it "sort of a better game"
As for being embarrassed with your output - well again TBBH you should be and perhaps you should of put your hand up and said the coaches "I don't deserve my spot right now"
You know show a bit of leadership
Scathing by Willys standards but correct. :thumbsup
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Okay, this is going to be popular - NOT - but I happen to think Chris has been a fine servant of this club and if we make the finals and there is a way we can get him game time if not at the expense of a win, I hope he plays.
Ducking and weaving for cover now lol
I know, I know, we should smash and ridicule our elderly when they're past it but I'll just make an exception in this case :lol
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Froars, nice to see you
And normally would agree is the you but in this case he isn't giving enough to warrant his position in the side.vthats the issue here.
We are not a good enough side to be carrying blokes on sentiment
And can I add If it was good enough to plant J Bwoden on the VFL for last half of his final season then it's good enough for Newy :snidegrin
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Froars, nice to see you
And normally would agree is the you but in this case he isn't giving enough to warrant his position in the side.vthats the issue here.
We are not a good enough side to be carrying blokes on sentiment
And can I add If it was good enough to plant J Bwoden on the VFL for last half of his final season then it's good enough for Newy :snidegrin
Just don't write him off
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Would be a kind act if someone left a strategically placed banana peel in his path after training.....just sayin ;)
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Would be a kind act if someone left a strategically placed banana peel in his path after training.....just sayin ;)
haha
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It would be nice if he played his best game ever.......one day.
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We all hope that. I know, not looking good at the moment, but I have faith!
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But I'm with Willy on this, petals x
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But I'm with Willy on this, petals x
Yes, Pet, you're allowed to be ha
And if Foley could just not get injured - ONLY KIDDING lol
Out of here for another 6 months lol
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On Friday night, Newy will enter the top 10 most RFC games played.
The top 10 Tiger games’ table is:
403 – Kevin Bartlett
312 – Jack Dyer
300 – Francis Bourke
297 – Wayne Campbell
294 – Jack Titus
282 – Matthew Richardson
279 – Matthew Knights
274 – Dale Weightman
265 – Joel Bowden
263 – Percy Bentley
262 - Vic Thorp
262* - Chris Newman (33 y.o.)
...
227* - Brett Deledio (28 y.o.)
http://afltables.com/afl/stats/alltime/richmond.html
http://www.richmondfc.com.au/news/2015-08-05/newman-to-enter-tiger-top-10
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All for applauding his longevity in the game but, stuff me, he stands out like dogs balls on that list
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Gee he is poo
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All for applauding his longevity in the game but, stuff me, he stands out like dogs balls on that list
Yes-As a selfish dud.
Sesame street song "One of these things doesnt belong here"
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He gets slower with every match and I'm not being dramatic.
You can hear the opposition players licking their lips when Newmanagets involved in any
Decision making play or tries to take a few steps
A career downhill skier and one who has made a career out of offering nothing inspirational
When the team need it.
I know he's a top bloke and I dont dispute his character and demeanour are, honourable at best
but in games like Friday nights, he's the first reason to get rid of him once and for all.
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Hey look, there's some momentum! Quick, kill it!
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he is awfully slow. stood out likes dog's agates on friday
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Funnily enough it was one of his best ever games
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I'm not one of Chris' biggest critics and I still think his has enough leg speed for AFL footy but he seems like he is dereft off all confidence. We have a big month ahead and the side should be picked on form not name or not experience.
Our best footy this year was played when we had a good mix of old and new but since then DH has gone back to bigger bodied older players.
Dimma's loyalty to these types might just keep us out of the finals.
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Old yella, chris just retire now, gee we are carrying some serious baggage, foley, knights, pettard, newman, hampson, none have any future time to upgrade at least these 5 at least, nowonder we have no depth
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Funnily enough it was one of his best ever games
Of course it was.....
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Funnily enough it was one of his best ever games
Of course it was.....
:shh
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Golden oldies: How your side's 30-plus players are travelling?
Nathan Schmook
afl.com.au
August 12, 2015
RICHMOND
Chris Newman (33) - The oldest player on the Tigers' list, Newman is yet to decide if he will play on, saying he will leave that decision until the end of the season. After a two-week spell in the VFL mid-season, he has held his spot for seven weeks and played a role across half-forward. He said last month he'd "have to be playing some pretty good footy to play on", and the Tigers' emerging youngsters could force him out of the 22.
http://www.afl.com.au/news/2015-08-12/golden-oldies-how-your-sides-30plus-players-are-travelling
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Boooooo
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Said it before and will say it again
this decision of whether he plays on 2016 is not and should not be Newman's to make
Must be taken out of his hands
Show some guts Tigers and YOU make the call
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I wonder what uncle Damien will think ::)
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As long as we continue to employ 33-34 year old hacks wih no leadership qualities, we will not be premiers.
The fact he believes he will make that spdecision shows how much of a moron he is.
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....and the fact that we'll let him shows what even bigger morons we are...
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Other clubs think we are a joke
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Yep - half the reason we can never land a "big fish".....top players just don't take us seriously....
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Yep - half the reason we can never land a "big fish".....top players just don't take us seriously....
That's reality.
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Honestly don't know what you lot are on about. Bloke could go on till he's 35 for sure :shh
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Got a question,
Why does anyone ever use anyone in the media to back up any opinion they may have on any matter?
As I have not seen one person in the media ever call it like it is when it comes to blokes like Newman, ever. Whenever I listen to his name on TV it's all "the veteran, he plays a great role for the Tigers". "Newman will go on next year won't he Richo? He's playing some good footy". Come on. He is woeful and it stands out. Maybe Mark McClure would smash him but he is an idiot so no one would take note
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Some moronic commentators still call him the captain.
Anyone heard this?
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Stuffing poo clowns :banghead
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I'm even starting to believe that I'm wrong and Chris IS a champion..... :facepalm
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Some moronic commentators still call him the captain.
Anyone heard this?
Spiritual leader.... :shh
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But he's a lovely bloke...................
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I'm even starting to believe that I'm wrong and Chris IS a champion..... :facepalm
Look, he may not quite meet many peoples definition of a champion, but nobody can dispute his status as a gun player and all round nice guy
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I heard dimmas older sister is newmans daughters best friend :shh :lol
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Got a question,
Why does anyone ever use anyone in the media to back up any opinion they may have on any matter?
You'd be better off asking '65 that question in the Politics thread.
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:lol :cheers
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Got a question,
Why does anyone ever use anyone in the media to back up any opinion they may have on any matter?
You'd be better off asking '65 that question in the Politics thread.
I come on here to talk footy
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But he's a lovely bloke...................
He's a self indulged Rs for the way he's eeked an extra couple of years.
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List clogger, coach flogger.
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having a good game so far today is Chris. His doing all the 1% things & more. Wish some of his team mates would stand taller & play to their potential
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Should Chris Newman play finals?
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Newy reflects with Richo before his final finals campaign...
VIDEO: http://www.richmondfc.com.au/video/2015-09-11/newman-reflects-with-richo
* It’s a different sort of feeling. A little bit of a weird feeling. I actually thought that I’d be feeling a little bit more tense knowing that, potentially, it could be the last time that I’m doing things around the Club, or something like that, but I don’t. I feel at ease.
* The boys think that’s the general sort of feel at the moment. We’ve done everything that we’ve done in the past, nothing’s changed this week, and we’re just looking forward to a big challenge. North are obviously going alright, they’re a good team and we respect them a lot.
* We’ve had three successive finals campaigns, so hopefully we’ve matured a little bit from the first time we had our experience. I think the boys are just really excited and looking forward to it. It’s a different group to when we played Carlton two years ago and even last year. We feel like we’ve been practising the same things, so hopefully this time round it goes our way.
* I’m glad that I can get out on the MCG and play in front of a big crowd. I look forward to running down that Punt Road end and hearing the roar again pre-game. Everyone still talks about when we played Carlton here two years ago. The result didn’t go our way but that’s a memory that I’ll always keep. I’ll always remember that roar. The ground was shaking. We’re going to have a lot of supporters there again on the weekend, so we look forward to that. Obviously, the trick is to try and embrace the support, but then put it to bed and concentrate on getting off to a good start. Don’t worry about the occasion too much and just play our best footy.
Full article: http://www.richmondfc.com.au/news/2015-09-12/newman-ready-to-go-out-in-style
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Veteran duo set to turn to coaching
Nathan Schmook
afl.com.au
October 8, 2015 2:01 PM
RETIRED pair Chris Newman and Adam Schneider could each make an immediate move into coaching after impressing as mentors to young players in the final years of their careers.
Newman is set on entering AFL coaching ranks after completing the League's Level Two course and he sees his long-term future in the caper.
The Richmond favourite, who made an emotional farewell speech at the club's best and fairest on Tuesday night, appears certain to leave the Tigers to launch his coaching career.
Coach Damien Hardwick believes a start outside Richmond would benefit the 33-year-old, who will return to Melbourne on Monday and assess his options next week.
http://www.afl.com.au/news/2015-10-08/veteran-duo-set-to-turn-to-coaching
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Cool...we haven't had a circle work coach since Campbell....
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how the stuff does he get to do a level two coaching course. you need to have level one and have coaches a senior team for two years?
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CAUSE HE IS ALREADY AN ON FIELD COACH
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yeah, OK
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Former Richmond captain Chris Newman has joined Hawthorn as a development coach - 1116 SEN Twitter
https://www.facebook.com/AFLSeasonAndOffSeasonNews
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The only team we play well against too
His done nothing for us for years now will go over there and tell them everything they need to know to beat us
stuff him
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Hilarious.
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There goes the dynasty
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Former Richmond captain Chris Newman has joined Hawthorn as a development coach - 1116 SEN Twitter
https://www.facebook.com/AFLSeasonAndOffSeasonNews
Al Clarkson obviously rates him
:outtahere
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:snidegrin
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:cuddles
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Former Richmond captain Chris Newman has joined Hawthorn as a development coach - 1116 SEN Twitter
https://www.facebook.com/AFLSeasonAndOffSeasonNews
Al Clarkson obviously rates him
:outtahere
Like you and dimwit rated Bailey?
This will be clarkos first mistake, unless he wants some assistance in the art of choking
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^^ :'( :nopity
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Coach ;D Tiger spy more like it :snidegrin
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Like you and dimwit rated Bailey?
This will be clarkos first mistake, unless he wants some assistance in the art of choking
Well Al Clarkson rate Bailey too; very highly I might add so it would appear the 4 time premiership coach may a bit of a dill too :rollin
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Like you and dimwit rated Bailey?
This will be clarkos first mistake, unless he wants some assistance in the art of choking
Well Al Clarkson rate Bailey too; very highly I might add so it would appear the 4 time premiership coach may a bit of a dill too :rollin
Do 2 wrongs make a right?
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Like you and dimwit rated Bailey?
This will be clarkos first mistake, unless he wants some assistance in the art of choking
Well Al Clarkson rate Bailey too; very highly I might add so it would appear the 4 time premiership coach may a bit of a dill too :rollin
Do 2 wrongs make a right?
Exactly. Plenty of dud players played off in granny's and he was one due to injury but we felt sorry for him and now his off. Shows he had one foot out the door anyway for a while.
Hope they finally spend our money on some quality now instead of these blokes looking for a gap year
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Hilarious.
Max Bailey ...
Mcqualter ...
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I see the experts are having their say again, Clarko should have jumped on the forum and read new mans thread as a reference check
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DELETE THREAD
HE IS @ HAWTHORN NOW.
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have a bit of respect miserable man :lol
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oxxford is right...his name should be erased from the history books and never spoken of again - the last remnant of Richmond's selfish generation....
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Until he becomes the prodigal son and returns to lead us to our next flag. :snidegrin
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No that will be former Richmond supporter Luke Hodge. :shh
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No that will be former Richmond supporter Luke Hodge. :shh
:lol :lol