One-Eyed Richmond Forum
Football => Richmond Rant => Topic started by: one-eyed on May 22, 2023, 07:36:30 PM
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Obvious question with now 3-4 months for the Club to decide.
Who will be our next coach?
Do you want someone with previous senior coach experience or a first timer?
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Hope it's Hodge or Leppa - have a nasty feeling it might be Buckley. :shh
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Random guess but imma say Teague train
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Is Jade the Blade's trusty sidekick Big Note available? :shh
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I think I’d almost prefer a young coach with no or very little experience over some coach who’s been around the blocks. At least that way they’d bring in their own new, modern ideas and build their own list for the long term.
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Rance to be player coach!
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Let's steal Leppa back from Wobblywood.
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Can we lure Craig McRae back 😂😂
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Another "Couldn't appoint Sheedy and had to let him go to a Big 4 rival because we had a premiership coach" moment? :shh
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Brian Royal
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Bec Goddard -we do like to be at the cutting edge of "progress". :shh
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Would love Leppa back. Gut feel he loves the assistant role, his time at Brisbane was very toxic.
Buckley I could stomach. I do not want any of Teague or Truck. Both were very ordinary coaches of a lacking team. I wouldn't be against an entirely new coaching panel. Maybe get Grigg and Newman back to the club as assistants. Under Leppa would be an ideal choice.
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Whoever it is won’t be here by the time we are successful again. There’s gonna be huge turnover. I hope the club is bold enough to make the tough decisions
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Maybe it's Sheedy time
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Maybe it's Sheedy time
Finally :shh
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I don’t think anyone expected fly to have anywhere near the impact he is having at the pies. Don’t think too many on here rated him highly. we seemed to bottle a lot of vfl finals and limped over the line in the granny we did win.
Maybe just a case of right time, right place, right person with him and the pies.
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Wow didn't see this coming.
Hope it's another hard man.
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Steve Morris the next Clarkson, McCrae
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I want Leppa back rated highly and along with McRae doing a good job at pies.
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Brian Royal
LMAO
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Matty Knights?
I wonder :huh3
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How Damien Hardwick’s shock exit will spin AFL coach merry-go-round, and who’s riding it
David Zita, Max Laughton and Catherine Healey
Fox Sports
May 22nd, 2023 9:34 pm
The coaching landscape has shifted significantly with news Damien Hardwick will quit as Richmond coach on Tuesday.
Hardwick will quit the club and cease to be the AFL’s longest-serving active coach, having taken on the role in 2010.
There will now be no shortage of contenders to take over one of the biggest jobs in football.
KEN HINKLEY
As the current landscape sits, Ken Hinkley is the only senior coach in the league without a contract beyond 2023.
Port Adelaide has stood firm on its desire to park contract talks until later in the year, despite the Power currently on a seven-match win streak.
Hinkley’s future will now come into sharper focus.
“When a coach leaves a football club and a powerhouse like Richmond, it opens the door for great speculation from here until the end of the year. The first thing that came to our mind was Ken Hinkley at Port Adelaide,” Mark Robinson said on AFL 360.
“He’s out of contract at the end of this year, talks have been parked until August. David Koch, the chairman, is not baulking on those talks.
“Ken Hinkley was chased last year by the Bombers, they probably had a four or five year deal in the making for him. He chose not to be part of that process.
“If he did, he probably would’ve got it, before they went after Brad Scott. What does Richmond do? They put every name down on the board and go ‘right, who’s gettable, who do we go after? I know, let’s make an inquiry into Ken Hinkley.’”
NATHAN BUCKLEY
There will be interest from inside the AFL world for the former Collingwood coach - but is there interest from Nathan Buckley himself?
It’s unclear where Buckley would sit with the Richmond job now up for grabs, however, given they’ve had quite a bit more recent success than, say, the Kangaroos could point to when they came knocking.
At the very least Buckley’s name will be up on a whiteboard at Punt Road come Tuesday afternoon.
THE ASSISTANTS
As we’ve seen in recent years, most notably with ex-Tigers assistant Craig McRae at Collingwood, you don’t need to have been a senior coach before to be a good one.
Daniel Giansiracusa (Essendon) and Ashley Hansen (Carlton) could look to emulate the feats of McRae and parachute into a top job.
The Tigers already have Andrew McQualter on the books, and have since 2014. McQualter is the man tipped to get the nod as interim Richmond coach, ahead of his fellow assistants and former AFL coaches Ben Rutten and David Teague.
Rutten is only 10 rounds out of a senior job, after he was sensationally sacked by Essendon at the end of the 2022 season before returning to the Tigers where he was an assistant previously.
Teague hasn’t coached at senior level since he was sacked by the Blues in August 2021.
Also still hunting for their first senior role is the likes of Adem Yze who missed out on the Essendon job last year. Yze was reportedly one of the frontrunners at the Bombers before that job went to Brad Scott.
Former Crows coach Don Pyke could be ready for a second crack at senior coaching after his time in Adelaide ended in 2019 amid controversy over the club’s pre-season camp.
Justin Leppitsch is another who may be ready to step up once again after 66 games as Brisbane’s head coach more than six years ago.
https://www.foxsports.com.au/afl/teams/richmond-tigers/afl-news-2023-damien-hardwick-quits-richmond-impact-on-coach-landscape-replacements-contenders-ken-hinkley-adam-simpson/news-story/142d2e620532f9ad0bcaa32ed62fcb31
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I would like someone who is going to build / develop us back up with focus on recruitment as we will have to get some good ones late in the draft. we might have to suck it up for a couple of years sadly and I wouldn’t be getting rid on too many as I see 6 going without even looking .
I get the feeling Buckley would be keen to coach us but don’t think he would build a team from the base us. I too think Leppa is the one , but he may not want it.
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If we want a tactical coach Pyke is the man.
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Daniel Giansiracusa was said to be the man behind our "Chaos" system. Strategy worked but has the game gone past that(stand rule) and does a Strategy guy work as a head coach. Stuffed if I know but he might be worth a go.
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Daniel Giansiracusa was said to be the man behind our "Chaos" system. Strategy worked but has the game gone past that(stand rule) and does a Strategy guy work as a head coach. Stuffed if I know but he might be worth a go.
Caracella?
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Buckley has been kissing our butts all season long. Maybe he knew something we didn’t lol
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whats funny about on the couch is a few weeks ago Lyoin kept banging on about some big changes in the coaching ranks. It was 3 weeks ago, and i think he said to Bucks.
at the time i thought he better not be talking about dimma.
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From Jon Ralph in the HeraldSun:
Nothing stimulates a senior coaching market quicker than a coaching vacancy.
And there is no bigger vacancy than at a powerhouse club like Richmond.
Say what you want about their list and imminent exits for Jack Riewoldt and Trent Cotchin, who will retire at year’s end.
But who wouldn’t want to coach at a financially secure club on the edge of the CBD with stars of the calibre of Shai Bolton, Tom Lynch, Daniel Rioli, Dion Prestia and Liam Baker.
As recently as this weekend Port Adelaide was privately contemplating whether Ken Hinkley would be swayed by a mega-deal from a rival club when they might only offer him a two-year extension.
The firm view was that he was so entrenched in the city of Adelaide with his wider family — and invested in the young list — that talks could wait until August where he would reject rival offers like he did Essendon’s overtures last year.
Now the Power will have to consider escalating that timeline given he would be the perfect candidate to fill Hardwick’s boots.
A superb communicator, great relationships with kids, strong tactician, able to lead a club as well as a list of 40 men.
And ready to inherit a list for immediate success instead of putting the training wheels on.
Richmond would have to ask Nathan Buckley if he was interested, while running a process that would involve Justin Leppitsch (back for a third stint!), Adem Yze and their own highly-rated Andrew McQualter.
https://www.codesports.com.au/afl/damien-hardwick-quits-jon-ralph-analyses-impact-on-other-coaches-ken-hinkley-stuart-dew/news-story/a06cab92b9d6804d7d69d9f56b6d2e19
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I hope it's not Hinkley, can't stand him.
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Daniel Giansiracusa was said to be the man behind our "Chaos" system. Strategy worked but has the game gone past that(stand rule) and does a Strategy guy work as a head coach. Stuffed if I know but he might be worth a go.
Caracella?
Yep it was Caracella
Giansiracusa has never been at Richmond
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Daniel Giansiracusa was said to be the man behind our "Chaos" system. Strategy worked but has the game gone past that(stand rule) and does a Strategy guy work as a head coach. Stuffed if I know but he might be worth a go.
Caracella?
Yep it was Caracella
Giansiracusa has never been at Richmond
Yep that's who I meant. Scotch and a shock coach quitting don't mix.
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Whoever we select, a lot of people will be unhappy….
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Buckley
Hinkley
Teague
Rutten
All duds
Leppa, knights
Morris needs more time
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If we want a tactical coach Pyke is the man.
Lol his got no idea ruined a football club.
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If we want a tactical coach Pyke is the man.
Would rather a passionate coach, Buckley tactical, Dimma was tactical IMO and changed his style in 2016/2017
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We haven’t been the same team since Leppa left. Coincidence…. Maybe!
But, in saying that I feel like our current assistants aren’t getting anything out of our players, our skills and game plan have gone backwards at a rate it knots and our draftees are not improving.
Time for a clean out off field and in the coaches box.
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I'd give a whole overhaul. Bit like what we did in 2016 and what Saints have done this year.
I'd look at pinching assistants from Melb, Pies, Lions, Cats and Swans. Personally would go for an experienced assistant who hasn't had an AFL gig. Hinkley I'm not that interested in, Buckley I guess just for PR reason he fits a big club but not sold. Maybe.
I'd be looking at guys like Leppa, Adam Yze from Melb (who apparently was very very close to Essendon gig), Lenny Hayes, Knights, Giansiracusa, Scott Burns. Don't think any of them would choose to stay over coaching us. Maybe Leppa as he seems very happy not senior coaching.
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agree. Clean the whole coaching group out. Fresh start.
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Is Jade the Blade's trusty sidekick Big Note available? :shh
Imagine getting that duo back together. Coburg glory days recreated.... :shh :shh
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THE PEOPLE RICHMOND SHOULD FIRST CALL TO REPLACE HARDWICK
Andrew Slevison
SEN
23 May 2023
SEN Breakfast’s Tim Watson and Sam Edmund have discussed who they believe should be the coaches on the radar of the Tigers who have been helmed by Hardwick since late 2009.
Watson believes former Tigers assistant and current Collingwood assistant Justin Leppitsch could be the man.
“Do you think that they’d look at somebody like Lepptisch, who was there, he’s got great cache in this business, they know what he’s like,” Watson said.
“Do you think they would look at someone like him that has been there already?”
That prompted a back and forth between he and Edmund who feels the Tigers might be better off targeting a current coach who comes out of contract this year.
Port Adelaide’s Ken Hinkley could become available provided the Power don’t look to extend him at some point this season.
“Surely their first call - and they will go through a proper process and there will be the assistants like the Josh Carrs of the world who is next in line and all these guys - but their first call has to be to Ken Hinkley,” Edmund said.
“Has to be. He doesn’t have a contract, he doesn’t have a job for next year. He is plan 1A, B and C at the moment, surely.”
Watson queried whether or not Hinkley’s lack of ultimate success would be a sticking point.
Watson: “When you’re looking at it harshly and he hasn’t been able to deliver ‘the’ silverware to this point, does that not become part of the conversation too?”
Edmund: “Only one team can win the premiership and it didn’t hurt Ross Lyon’s credentials that he wasn’t quite able to get over the hump.”
Watson: “A little bit different because Ross Lyon had multiple teams in Grand Finals.”
Edmund: “Kenny has played off in a couple of prelims.
“I think we all agree that Ken Hinkley is a good coach and is probably coaching as well as he’s ever coached at the moment.”
Watson: “They’re going well at the moment.
“If you’re saying to me that he would be the first to call, I don’t see him being the first call.”
Edmund: “No? Who’s the first call?”
Watson: “I said Leppitsch would possibly be the first call.
“He’s already occupied a space there, he’s been part of Richmond, he understands Richmond, they understand him.”
Edmund: “But as good as ‘Leppa’ is tactically, his senior coaching resume doesn’t hold up to Ken’s.”
Watson: “No, but he started at a poorer club at a time when they were going through some rebuilding as a first-up coach.
“One would have to assume that you are going to be a lot better second time around when you’ve had the experiences.
“If he wants to. Maybe he doesn’t want to.”
Edmund: “Port Adelaide were bottom of the barrel too. The change at that club in Ken Hinkley’s time has been immense.
“He would be my first call anyway given his contract situation.
“I think they will come far and wide for this job. Of course they would.”
Watson and Edmund also spoke about how attractive the Richmond job would be to potential suitors and what the club’s list will look like next year.
Edmund believes it is “absolutely a plumb job” even if the likes of Trent Cotchin and Jack Riewoldt could be on their way out at the end of this season.
https://www.sen.com.au/news/2023/05/22/the-people-richmond-should-first-call-to-replace-hardwick/
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I don't want Ken Hinkley anywhere near our club
New coach from outside the club. Time for some fresh ideas and a new mind to start making decisions on our list
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Longmire?
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I'm warming to Nathan Buckley.
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Longmire?
:chuck
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Leppa for me my first choice is done his time after his first stint and so highly rated. There is also big rapts on Jaymie Graham to.
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What about Josh Carr?
Highly rated, think Hinkley stays at Power.
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Leppa
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I'm warming to Nathan Buckley.
Buckley….no way Jose, failed, never succeeded, always chased a flag, never got one, LEPPA for me
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They showed a lost of possibles on Ch7 news tonight
The ones I can remember were Hinkley, Giansarcusa (sp?), Buckley, Leppa
I was only concentrating/interested in one name and that was Leppa
He'd be perfect
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Leppa has already had a crack at being head coach, how did he go?
His next move was to come to Richmond as an assistant coach & away we went.
New blood, for better or worse. It might take more than one go to get back to being a premiership team, but that's football. That's the chase, the kill comes when it comes. There will be problems, there will be failures, but its the best way to go. Trying to rescue the list & reignite our dynasty so that we can carry on pretending to be a top side is futile.
Find a good young coaching candidate with a few good ideas & be prepared to back them to the hilt.
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They showed a lost of possibles on Ch7 news tonight
The ones I can remember were Hinkley, Giansarcusa (sp?), Buckley, Leppa
I was only concentrating/interested in one name and that was Leppa
He'd be perfect
Why do you think he’d be perfect ? I’m not so informed of the good coaches, I mean depending on how much you bank collingwoods success on McRae you could say he is a great coach and came out of no where. I hear people say leppa is a fantastic assistant coach but I don’t know what makes him so good.
I think we’d benefit from someone outside of the club personally
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They showed a lost of possibles on Ch7 news tonight
The ones I can remember were Hinkley, Giansarcusa (sp?), Buckley, Leppa
I was only concentrating/interested in one name and that was Leppa
He'd be perfect
The other 2 were
Yze and Pyke
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They showed a lost of possibles on Ch7 news tonight
The ones I can remember were Hinkley, Giansarcusa (sp?), Buckley, Leppa
I was only concentrating/interested in one name and that was Leppa
He'd be perfect
Why do you think he’d be perfect ? I’m not so informed of the good coaches, I mean depending on how much you bank collingwoods success on McRae you could say he is a great coach and came out of no where. I hear people say leppa is a fantastic assistant coach but I don’t know what makes him so good.
I think we’d benefit from someone outside of the club personally
All well and good but who
The team played a lot better when Leppa was there, who knows but I think he would be way better than anyone else.
As an aside, why do you think McCrae got him to Collingwood??
IMHO. Cos he’s good
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Leppa has already had a crack at being head coach, how did he go?
Not great
But he took on a basket case with few resources and very little support (like a Balmey)
He's at least worth considering IMHO
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Why do you think he’d be perfect ? I’m not so informed of the good coaches, I mean depending on how much you bank collingwoods success on McRae you could say he is a great coach and came out of no where. I hear people say leppa is a fantastic assistant coach but I don’t know what makes him so good.
I think we’d benefit from someone outside of the club personally
Think Mint, summed it up really well
Rance credits Leppa with helping hom become a premium defender
I also rate him as a person. That he put others first when he stepped away from the Club rather than chase another contract so others with contracts wouldn't lose their jobs due to the soft cap cuts I reckon speaks volumes about his character
We could do a lot worse
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They showed a lost of possibles on Ch7 news tonight
The ones I can remember were Hinkley, Giansarcusa (sp?), Buckley, Leppa
I was only concentrating/interested in one name and that was Leppa
He'd be perfect
Why do you think he’d be perfect ? I’m not so informed of the good coaches, I mean depending on how much you bank collingwoods success on McRae you could say he is a great coach and came out of no where. I hear people say leppa is a fantastic assistant coach but I don’t know what makes him so good.
I think we’d benefit from someone outside of the club personally
All well and good but who
The team played a lot better when Leppa was there, who knows but I think he would be way better than anyone else.
As an aside, why do you think McCrae got him to Collingwood??
IMHO. Cos he’s good
Well as I said I’m not informed of the up and coming coaches around the league but I’d assume there’s another McRae out there, an assistant or vfl coach ready to give it a go. We have plenty of time to do the process anyway so will be interesting
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Why not Blake Caracalla?
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Why not Blake Caracalla?
Agree
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Why not Blake Caracalla?
Agree
Has he ever put his hand up for a senior coaching role. Feel like whenever there’s a vacancy his name gets raised but he never interviews. Reckon at this stage he just wants to stay as an assistant.
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Who’s in the mix to be Richmond’s next coach?
Jon Ralph
HeraldSun
May 24, 2023
Richmond chief executive Brendon Gale says search for the “next Damien Hardwick” should attract an elite band of candidates as the Tigers spend the next four months in an extensive coaching search.
Gale made clear the era of Richmond success was not over on Tuesday despite the club farewelling their most successful modern coach.
The candidates will likely include Port Adelaide senior coach Ken Hinkley, former Richmond assistant Justin Leppitsch and assistant coaches including Don Pyke, Adem Yze, Daniel Giansiracusa and interim coach Andrew McQualter.
The Tigers will now work on establishing a process for a potential panel to hire their next coach and have the jump start on any other clubs which might move on their coach.
Gale made clear the Tigers were an “attractive proposition” as a stable club with a list in finals contention at a Punt Rd facility that will soon be upgraded again.
“This has all happened pretty quickly, so we will work through that and redefine the attributes to be the Richmond coach for the next 10 years. The game is evolving. We want to find the next Damien Hardwick,” Gale said.
“We think we are a pretty attractive proposition. We are a strong club with a strong culture. We are pretty confident that we have got an environment where a coach would thrive.
“Because of the selfless decision, it gives us the opportunity to get ahead of that.”
LIKELY TARGETS
KEN HINKLEY
Port Adelaide has been steadfast in its commitment to not talk about a new deal for Ken Hinkley until August, but the Power mentor is arguably coaching better than ever in his 11th season. In the space of the past seven weeks, he has gone from a likely casualty to in-demand coaching option. Hinkley is so deeply connected to his Port Adelaide players that it would be hard to see him prised out of Alberton. The Tigers will almost certainly ask the question if he is interested, and the prospect of a four or five-year deal might be the coaching security he needs, if the Power doesn’t give him a medium to long-term commitment.
ADAM SIMPSON
Arguably the most under-pressure coach in the competition right now and heading for a wooden spoon after a disastrous last three seasons. But he is a premiership coach – he won the flag that Richmond thought was theirs in 2018 – so maybe a fresh challenge in a new environment might be the best thing for him and the Eagles. He is contracted until the end of 2024, but as we have seen so frequently in the past few years, a contract is often not worth the paper it is written on.
NATHAN BUCKLEY
The former Magpie coach has consistently said coaching is not in his short-to-medium plans. He reiterated that on Tuesday, by saying his life balance has been so much better since stepping out of the coaches’ box. But the Tigers could ask him if he wanted to be a part of the process. He took the Magpies to within a kick of a premiership in 2018, as well as three preliminary finals. Will he be better as a second-time coach? Definitely. And does that hunger to finally taste premiership success still course through his veins? Maybe this could be a year or two too early for Bucks.
DON PYKE
Took Adelaide to the 2017 grand final only to be denied by Hardwick and the relentless Tigers. Departed the Crows after being burnt out by the club’s ladder fall as well as the after-effects of the club’s controversial pre-season camp, but played a big role at Sydney as an assistant to John Longmire to take the Swans to last year’s grand final. Considered a very sound tactician, he has been reluctant to put himself into the frame for a senior coaching role. But could the opening at Richmond change all that?
JUSTIN LEPPITSCH
The former Brisbane senior coach and now Magpies assistant had two separate stints at Punt Rd under Hardwick, and knows the place well. Was thought to have lost his chance after the Lions’ coaching role ended badly, but he has consistently worked hard to rebuild his own coaching brand. Was a crucial part of the Tigers’ coaching staff in three flags in four seasons, and has only enhanced that as a highly-rated assistant under Craig McRae at Collingwood.
THE WILDCARD
JOHN LONGMIRE
This could be 100-1 given Longmire is contracted until the end of 2025 and seems wholly invested in the Swans’ program. But he has been in the main chair there since 2011 – almost as long as Hardwick was at Richmond – and the Tigers would be derelict in not making the call to him. The answer would almost certainly be no, but it’s worth the price of a call. Chris Scott seems similarly entrenched at Geelong and is himself contracted until the end of 2024.
OTHERS WHO COULD BE IN THE MIX
ADEM YZE
Highly-rated assistant coach who came so close to winning the GWS role before Adam Kingsley knocked him off in the last interview. Was also in the mix at Essendon before Brad Scott won the job. Has had a strong coaching apprenticeship and is currently doing good things with Melbourne as the Demons look to chase a second flag in three years.
LEON CAMERON
Spent the second half of his playing career with Richmond after starting with the Bulldogs, so he knows the Tigers’ environment. He took the Giants to a grand final and three preliminary finals but his tenure ended there last year. Chose not to chase the Essendon job, instead taking on a role with Sydney’s academy, preferring to stay in the Harbour City with his family.
ANDREW McQUALTER
Jeff Gieschen famously won the Tigers job after impressing as caretaker coach 26 years ago when the fans urged the board to “Unleash the Giesch”. Could McQualter attract similar momentum in the second half of the season? It seems unlikely. But there is no doubt McQualter has a strong resume and has been Hardwick’s loyal assistant for 10 seasons.
ASH HANSEN
Highly-rated assistant coach who joined Carlton this year as senior lieutenant to Michael Voss as well as forward line coach after a successful stint at the Bulldogs. Long considered a senior coach in waiting and will get his chance at some stage.
BLAKE CARACELLA
Considered one of most respected assistant coaches after successful stints at Collingwood, Geelong and Richmond before joining his old side Essendon. Helped the Tigers win two flags in 2017 and 2019, but has seemingly always shown a reluctance to go chase a main gig.
JAYMIE GRAHAM
Another who has been in the mix of coaching processes in recent years including at Collingwood when the Magpies appointed McRae. Stood in as caretaker for Justin Longmire for two games when the Dockers coach was in COVID-protocols.
DANIEL GIANSIRACUSA
Regarded as an AFL senior coach-in-waiting after building a strong resume as an assistant coach. Highly-regarded coach who has played a role in Essendon’s revival in 2023.
ROBERT HARVEY
Has returned to St Kilda and looks embedded back at Moorabbin under Ross Lyon after spending a decade at Collingwood and a recent stint at Hawthorn.
JOSH CARR
Insiders say his return to Port Adelaide alongside Ken Hinkley has played a part in the Power’s 2023 resurgence. Has developed a good assistant coaching profile across more than a decade.
https://www.codesports.com.au/afl/damien-hardwick-quits-whos-in-the-mix-to-be-richmonds-next-coach/news-story/e31928be0145d72941d2c7e07e5e6a85
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Sportsbet odds - Next Permanent Richmond Head Coach
Justin Leppitsch 4.50
Andrew McQualter 7.00
Adem Yze 8.00
David Teague 8.00
Don Pyke 8.00
Ben Rutten 11.00
Blake Caracella 11.00
Chris Newman 11.00
Ashley Hansen 13.00
Daniel Giansiracusa 15.00
Mark McVeigh 15.00
Matthew Knights 15.00
Nathan Buckley 15.00
Robert Harvey 15.00
Shaun Grigg 15.00
Leon Cameron 21.00
Corey Enright 26.00
James Kelly 26.00
Nigel Lappin 26.00
Ivan Maric 34.00
Mark Williams 34.00
Alex Rance 41.00
Brett Deledio 41.00
Dean Cox 41.00
Joel Corey 41.00
Luke Meehan 41.00
Matthew Richardson 41.00
https://www.sportsbet.com.au/betting/australian-rules/afl-coach-specials.
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Nathan Buckley has ruled himself out of the Richmond coaching hunt.
https://www.theage.com.au/sport/afl/buckley-no-to-tigers-as-coaching-merry-go-round-heats-up-20230523-p5dagi.html
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Interesting no odds on M Knights
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Leppa
Caracella
Yze
It's kinda like a popularity contest the rest
Leppa has the runs on the board in my book
Carecella has been around when success has surfaced
Yze - Sounds a fair ace in the pack for having a punt on someone
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Luke Meehan at $41
He’d should 100/1 to still be at the club next year
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Interesting no odds on M Knights
Or Hodge
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Kinda makes me ill that people bet on this crap.
Anyway I'd like Leppa or Caracella.
Luke Meehan is a joke. Deletion and even Richo too lol.
Seriously though our next coach might not be a 'premiership coach' type but more of a transitional type.
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A great episode of sacked podcast with leppa had a really candid and honest interview of what he believes lead to his downfall as coach. He said when he first jumped on board he was told “take your time rebuild properly”. He took this a literal face value and as such banked little wins. He realised while the board was trying to be supportive they didn’t mean it literally because sponsors and game attendance/memberships were dropping and it really screwed things up off field.
He said his biggest lesson in taking over a coach with a rebuild is you have to be competitive and rebuild at the same time. Just selling hope that player X will become elite won’t cut it. After the dark time of trying to rebuild Brisbane (which I think fagan has benefited from) I doubt he would want to rebuild Richmond. Once our legends retire
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Interesting no odds on M Knights
He's on the list at $15
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Really don't get the Hinkley, Buckly and Simpson talk, Buckly is a professional loser, and Simpson though won a premiership has West coast down the bottom of the ladder (I know they have had rotten luck with injuries)
Better going to get someone with brand new ideas
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Yeah, give it to a highly rated assistant from another club: yze, caracella, gia, Enright, lappin, Carr, whoever presents the best rather than some current or recently sacked coach: Hinkley, bucks, Simpson. The only one I’d personally consider is lepa as he got shafted by the lions and was losing players left, right and centre during his time. Still took fages 2 seasons after lepa left to get the lions to finals and hasn’t accomplished jack in those 4 finals appearances anyway. I’d even prefer someone with no coaching experience over the likes of Hinkley, bucks or Simpson.
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Leon Cameron interest
Could former Richmond star, and GWS Giants head coach, Leon Cameron be about to throw his hat in the ring to replace Damien Hardwick?
Sam Landsberger
HeraldSun
May 24, 2023
Former Richmond star and grand final coach Leon Cameron says his coaching itch “comes and goes” and is “probably a little bit” bigger than when he walked away from the Giants 12 months ago.
On Tuesday night Richmond chief executive Brendon Gale clarified his comment that the club would hunt “the next Damien Hardwick” was not an indication the Tigers would prefer an untried AFL coach.
“I just meant a new coach,” Gale said.
“We’ve got to really sit down and map out and define what we think are the key requirements. It’s coaching, there’s technical expertise, there’s more managerial, there’s a lot of advocacy ... it’s such a complicated role, and it’s evolving all the time.
“So we’ve got to capture the immediate needs and the future needs.”
That opens the door for the Tigers to consider experienced coaches in the ilk of Don Pyke, Justin Leppitsch, Cameron or a current AFL coach as well as the game’s most highly-rated assistants.
Cameron played 84 brilliant games for the Tigers from 2000-03 and led the club’s Brownlow Medal tally with 11 votes during their charge to the 2001 preliminary final.
The Giants won finals under Cameron in five out of six seasons from 2016-2021 to underline his coaching credentials.
“It’s a hard one to answer. It comes and goes, it absolutely comes and goes,” Cameron told SEN of his AFL coaching itch.
“(There’s) two parts of that. It’s having the confidence, yep, you want to go and do it. Can you think you can do it? And then you’ve got to be able to be in a position to do it.
“The job is so rewarding – going to a footy club and being involved, bringing something through from start to finish and seeing young kids chase their dream.
“All the great things about it is the reason why we chase it and why we love it.
“But equally, it’s so demanding it can wear you down so much, which was what we’ve said with Dimma yesterday.
“Most coaches get worn down and that’s the really hard part about it, and clearly the public scrutiny is full-on. That’s just relentless.
“Is it (the coaching itch) getting bigger with me at 12 months on? It probably is a little bit.
“But I can’t tell you when that date is when you go, yep, I’m ready to launch back in.”
Source: HeraldSun (https://www.codesports.com.au/afl/damien-hardwick-quits-whos-in-the-mix-to-be-richmonds-next-coach/news-story/e31928be0145d72941d2c7e07e5e6a85).
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Port Adelaide assistant Josh Carr interested in senior role
Simeon Thomas-Wilson
Adelaide Advertiser
24 May 2023
Port Adelaide assistant coach Josh Carr says he wants “to be a senior coach one day” in the wake of a vacancy opening up at Richmond.
But Carr says while he is “preparing to be ready” for whenever an opportunity comes up he is “not in a rush”.
“For me, and I think I have said this before, I just keep coaching the way that I want to coach, keep improving and learning and whenever an opportunity comes up I am preparing to be ready for it,” he said.
“I want to be a senior coach one day, but I am not in a rush at all really.
“I think that my path and my progress from when I first started to now is about learning and getting better and that won’t change.
“So when and if the opportunity ever came I would be ready for it.”
Carr, who is the midfield coach at Port, said he was enjoying his coaching at Alberton and was focusing on the job he had to do at the Power.
https://www.codesports.com.au/afl/next-richmond-coach-port-adelaide-assistant-josh-carr-interested-in-senior-role/news-story/b576701dad655b18355c7e5e1d6fc8e9
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From Caro in The Age:
Gale said on Tuesday his job was to find the next Damien Hardwick, but that should not be misconstrued to mean that the Tigers will search for another rookie senior coach - a role that Hardwick narrowly won from Ken Hinkley in late 2009.
The brief appears to be less a brilliant tactician instilling speed, skill and toughness but rather a strong and emotionally intelligent brother-father man manager. The best current example is Collingwood’s Craig McRae, who played a key role under Hardwick in the Tigers’ premiership era.
Source: The Age (https://www.theage.com.au/sport/afl/signposts-to-end-of-hardwick-era-first-emerged-in-2020-20230523-p5dami.html).
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I think I’m in favour of Josh Carr.
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We're has Carr coached I know he was at Freo ?.
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Always respected Caracella but not sure he wants to coach.
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Since 2004:
(http://oneeyed-richmond.com/images/coaches/PremiershipCoachesExperienceSince2004.png)
https://twitter.com/rtralphy/status/1660803858841636864
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Is that senior coaching experience or just having not won a flag at their previous club because footy classified presented it as the latter.
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Interesting no odds on M Knights
He's on the list at $15
👍🏿
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I think I’m in favour of Josh Carr.
Fat Ed was pumping his tyres up last night saying he was told he’d get the Port job when they boned Kenny.
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I think I’m in favour of Josh Carr.
Fat Ed was pumping his tyres up last night saying he was told he’d get the Port job when they boned Kenny.
Not against that idea.
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me neither. Friends with Dimma you would think?
Not sure about Leppa, as he seems like he enjoys the assistant like caracella.
How about carr, and leppa. Teague can go back to carlton.
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Is that senior coaching experience or just having not won a flag at their previous club because footy classified presented it as the latter.
It's previous senior AFL coaching experience before they went to the club they coached a premiership at. Since 2004, only Malthouse had been a senior coach at another club (Dogs & Eagles) before crossing to his new club (Collingwood) and winning a flag in 2010. All the rest were first-timers as senior coach at their respective clubs when they started.
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How appealing will the Richmond job be for prospective coaches?
Garry Lyon and Tim Watson give their thoughts.
WATCH HERE: https://twitter.com/1116sen/status/1661485899413340161
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Lyon is confident the Richmond coaching job will be heavily sought after, even if the club is out of premiership contention.
“The job is great because the club is great. This is a great football club of the AFL, they’re in the heartland of the sporting precinct, they’ve got their facilities sorted, they’ve got a supporter base the envy of most,” he said.
“I think there’s work to be done (on the list). I don’t share the opinion of some that they’re going to be back contending really quickly. I think they’ve got a bit of work to do.
“They won three premierships in four years and everything clicked together … I think they’re (now) going to be middle of the table.
“People will then go ‘Collingwood came back from 17th’ and that’s true and a coach can change things quickly, but they have got some of that generational talent around.
“Scott Pendlebury is not Trent Cotchin too. He’s still at the top level, while Cotchin’s magnificent career is coming to an end.”
Source: SEN (https://www.sen.com.au/news/2023/05/24/ill-say-100-per-cent-will-richmond-greats-follow-hardwick-out-the-door-in/).
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In comparing Geelong’s culture with that of Richmond, Sanderson declared the vacant Richmond job would be an attractive one to prospective coaches.
Despite believing the Tigers are a minimum of three years away from a flag, the former Crows coach said the strength of the club overall will mean aspiring senior coaches can approach the job with confidence.
https://www.sen.com.au/news/2023/05/25/i-thought-i-would-get-the-job-the-sliding-doors-moment-that-worked-out-for/
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Surely more appealing than coming in with the expectation of challenging at the top from the get go.
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Jimmy Bartel and Bruce Eva debate who will be Richmond’s next coach:
Begins at 6:50 min mark: https://www.3aw.com.au/new-episode-yesterdays-heroes-with-jimmy-bartel-and-bruce-eva-4/
"It's a matter of time before he [Yze] gets a job." - Bartel.
https://twitter.com/3AWisfootball/status/1661607730757644288
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Items at the top of the list for whoever the new coach is:
1. Forward line, structure and entries. Bombing it aimlessly high and long is not a gameplan. Enough said!
2. Defensive structure at stoppages. Hello having a sweeper! Summed up today by Drew's goal from a ball-up 10m out that rolled through :facepalm.
3. Tackling technique. The number of times we mistackle by not pinning the arm or going too high :help.
4. Goalkicking technique and routine. Do our players each have one? Both set shots and snaps (where we can't make the distance from 30 out :huh). We're sadly on par with Carlton's inept level :help :thumbsdown.
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Items at the top of the list for whoever the new coach is:
1. Forward line, structure and entries. Bombing it aimlessly high and long is not a gameplan. Enough said!
2. Defensive structure at stoppages. Hello having a sweeper! Summed up today by Drew's goal from a ball-up 10m out that rolled through :facepalm.
3. Tackling technique. The number of times we mistackle by not pinning the arm or going too high :help.
4. Goalkicking technique and routine. Do our players each have one? Both set shots and snaps (where we can't make the distance from 30 out :huh). We're sadly on par with Carlton's inept level :help :thumbsdown.
You have it all worked out and should put your hand up MT
Sounds simple
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Won't be McQualter. Had a chance to stamp himself on selection and game plan. Did neither.
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Former Richmond duo flagged as “left-field candidates” for senior coaching role
Could a familiar face, or two, be on the Tigers’ radar?
Mitch Keating
zerohanger.com
MAY 29, 2023
A pair of former Tigers players have been flagged as "left-field candidates" for the Richmond coaching job ahead of an extensive process to find Damien Hardwick's successor.
2017 premiership player Shaun Grigg and former Richmond defender Troy Chaplin are both seen as potential options that could emerge in the coaching race after building impressive post-career assistant coaching stints with Geelong and Melbourne respectively.
Grigg has worked closely under Cats coach Chris Scott since landing at Kardinia Park ahead of the 2020 season, joining as a development coach months after call-time on his playing career after 214 games with Carlton and Richmond.
Chaplin, currently Melbourne's backline coach, moved to the Demons after calling time on his career with Port Adelaide and Richmond, playing 75 games for the latter.
The 37-year-old joined the Demons as their offensive coordinator, and like Grigg played a part in his club's recent premiership success, with the Cats and Demons claiming the past two AFL premierships.
AFL reporter has Damian Barrett noted both Grigg and Chaplin as "left-field" options for the vacant role at Punt Road, likely contending against caretaker coach Andrew McQualter.
"We've got a few candidates coming from left field," Barrett told The Sunday Footy Show.
"Andrew McQualter will be the interim coach and Ross Lyon is endorsing his credentials from way back. Wanted him to join him at the St Kilda Football Club this year.
"But there's going to be a few left-field candidates. Shaun Grigg has been someone who's been spoken about quite highly now for some time with his role at the Geelong footy club.
"Troy Chaplin too, a key off-field player with what Melbourne did in their premiership success in 2021 and still there, also just one of those left-field candidates that might emerge as the weeks unfold."
The Tigers have stated they will be on the hunt for the "next Damien Hardwick" following his shock resignation, with McQualter set to lead the club for the remainder of the season in what will be a valuable dress rehearsal for the highly-rated assistant.
Richmond is set to consider untried assistant coaches to fill the role, with Chaplin's Melbourne colleague Adem Yze, former Richmond assistant Blake Caracella and West Coast's Jaymie Graham among those potentially on the club's radar.
https://www.zerohanger.com/former-richmond-duo-flagged-as-left-field-candidates-for-senior-coaching-role-137949/
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Leppitsch not ruling out Richmond coaching job
Oliver Caffrey
AAP
May 31, 2023 12:37PM
Justin Leppitsch insists he is committed to Collingwood but would not rule out an approach from Richmond to be Damien Hardwick's successor.
The former Brisbane Lions coach instantly became a favourite to head back to Punt Rd after Hardwick's shock decision last week to leave the Tigers after almost 14 seasons in charge.
Leppitsch had two successful stints working as an assistant at Richmond under Hardwick, including during the Tigers' three premierships in 2017, 2019 and 2020.
The 47-year-old has been an integral part of Collingwood's coaching staff during the Magpies' extraordinary surge up the ladder under Craig McRae.
"I guess I'm long enough now from my last appointment (at Brisbane) that I'm not burnt by the experience," Leppitsch said on Wednesday.
"But I think these things, it's almost like a marriage, you've got to commit together for a long period of time.
"It's such a pie in the sky thing for me at the moment.
"I'm really committed to this club (Collingwood) and where it's going and I've just started this journey, so for me, it's not even on the radar."
Leppitsch said he was "not ready" to answer if he would consider an approach from Richmond.
"The difference is I know everyone at Richmond," he said.
"(Richmond football performance manager) Tim Livingstone I speak to all the time because we do Powerball every Thursday night.
"It's not like I need to go through an interview process.
"They might decide they want to go in a completely different way.
"I think it's too early to decide, it's such a long period of the season to go.
"You never say never because you never know if an opportunity presents and it suits where you're at in your time in life, well why wouldn't all of us take an opportunity like that if you want to do it."
Leppitsch said Hardwick's announcement to immediately leave Richmond surprised him.
"I always knew 'Dimma' was never going to overstay his welcome," Leppitsch said.
"I definitely knew that part of it, but I didn't think anyone would have predicted it would be so soon.
"At the time I was shocked, but in hindsight I think I can see why he made the decision - he made it for the club to give them the best chance."
Leppitsch coached the Lions between 2014 and 2016 during a tough transformational period for the club, winning just 14 of his 66 matches in charge.
The triple premiership defender has previously given interviews where he acknowledged mistakes he made while coaching the Lions but said the environment wasn't set up to give Brisbane the best chance to succeed.
https://www.perthnow.com.au/sport/afl/leppitsch-not-ruling-out-richmond-coaching-job-c-10827736
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7news cryptic "Powerball syndicate" reference is just Leppa.
https://twitter.com/7NewsMelbourne/status/1663830095008792576
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Leppa strikes me as another Vossy.
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I think Leppa is primed for this spot, he's going to be really hungry especially if Mcrae walks away with a Flag himself this year.
As Morphieus said, He is the one.
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TIGES TO SEARCH FAR AND WIDE
Jon Ralph, Jay Clark and Glenn McFarlane
HeraldSun
1 June 2023
Richmond’s search for ‘the next Dimma’ is expected to be the most extensive coaching search in the club’s history, with the Tigers determined to get the right long-term candidate who could potentially take the club into the next decade.
And Tigers CEO Brendan Gale’s assessment that a first-time coach could be the way to go - as it was with Hardwick in 2010 - gives hope to a range of highly-rated assistants.
Andrew McQualter will have every chance to audition for the role in the running, but a host of other candidates including Melbourne assistant coach Troy Chaplin are also expected to be given the chance to pitch for the role.
Chapin played a key role in the Demons’ 2021 premiership success as a part of Simon Goodwin’s coaching panel.
It is understood Geelong made a pitch to Chaplin about joining Chris Scott’s coaching group after the Demons’ success but he opted to stay.
Chaplin won the AFL Coaches Association assistant coach of the year last season, an award that Magpies coach Craig McRae won in 2019.
https://www.codesports.com.au/afl/trade-hq/moneyball-column-stay-up-to-date-with-the-latest-trade-free-agency-and-signing-news-across-the-afl/news-story/95f0a51b9feba108c765eeb1607d94b6
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I think Leppa is primed for this spot, he's going to be really hungry especially if Mcrae walks away with a Flag himself this year.
As Morphieus said, He is the one.
Collingwood flag, where's the vomit emoji when you need it :help
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How about Andy Collins? :shh
Wasn't everyone raving about Dean Solomon a few years ago? What happened to him? :shh :shh
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I think Leppa is primed for this spot, he's going to be really hungry especially if Mcrae walks away with a Flag himself this year.
As Morphieus said, He is the one.
Collingwood flag, where's the vomit emoji when you need it :help
:chuck
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Not McQualter he has already shown he won't play kids and as such is probably not prepared to develop and do some hard yards.
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Claw you’re able to call this after one senior game in charge? Or do you base it on something else?
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The type of coach Richmond should hire
Jake Niall
Chief football writer, The Age
June 9, 2023 — 11.50am
It would be surprising if Richmond hadn’t already held some informal discussions about the type of coach they want to steer the Tigers into their next phase.
The Tigers enjoyed astonishing success with Damien Hardwick for a variety of reasons. One was that the hierarchy backed him in – especially after a seven-year itch of 2016 – when they might have buckled. Another factor, obviously, was the quality of players and staff at Dimma’s disposal.
Shortly after Hardwick arrived, a taciturn teenager called Dustin Martin was drafted from the Bendigo Pioneers.
The philosophy that underpinned the Hardwick era, from the day of his appointment in 2009, was that the Tigers were willing to be patient and to take a long-term view, eschewing the quick fixes and jerking of knees that had seen serial failure at Tigerland.
Consequently, Richmond is a vastly different entity to the one that Hardwick took over nearly 14 years ago. They’ve turned from fiscally fragile to powerful, from a club Brad Ottens fled to one that attracts quality players, from a raging tempest to a calm sea.
Hardwick delivered success, yet was never viewed as the Messiah. In his time, the Tigers learned that a coach, while crucial, is merely a leading part in an ensemble; Hardwick extracted the most from his players, in part, because he kept his role in proper perspective. He became an uber coach by not trying to be one.
If much has changed within the game and Punt Road, the same philosophy that the Tigers adopted in 2009 should prevail again when looking for a senior coach.
They should be looking wide and having an open process that canvasses several candidates, rather than chasing a name.
And they should be focusing largely on landing a first-time coach, instead of recycling or head-hunting a proven senior coach.
It made sense for North Melbourne, given their challenges, to go hard for Alastair Clarkson. Brad Scott’s appointment at Essendon – which still came after a process that he entered late – also fitted the needs of that faction-riven club at that particular time.
Richmond is in a much healthier position, culturally, than North or the Bombers were last year. They have abundant experience in leadership positions, headed by CEO Brendon Gale, and football department bosses Blair Hartley (list/recruitment) and Tim Livingstone (performance).
If Gale leaves his role in the short term – and he has no need to – the club will remain stable at board level, too.
So, Richmond doesn’t need a coach to show them what a decent, united organisation looks like or to reinvent the club.
What they need is a coach who can be at the helm for at least five years and preferably longer (which would mean they’re back in the premiership frame). Logically, this points to a first-time coach, to a current assistant coach who best suits Richmond’s needs.
Andrew McQualter, serving a lengthy audition as caretaker and renowned as a people person, will clearly be a candidate. But the field ought to be wide, counting the highly regarded Daniel Giansiracusa (Essendon), Jaymie Graham (Fremantle) and Adem Yze (Melbourne). McQualter will provide an excellent benchmark for comparison.
If the process is as rigorous as 2009’s search, the Tigers have every chance of identifying serious candidates who’ve never been considered for senior jobs. Remember that Craig McRae, then nearly 48 and as primed to coach as anyone, wasn’t on clubs’ radars pre-2021.
But once he was in the hunt, McRae seemed as bleeding obvious as Tommy Hafey’s game plan, given his mix of Richmondand Hawthorn, and Collingwood pedigree. Most flags are coached by coaches in their first senior gig.
Richmond should be viewing this appointment as having pick No.1 in the coaching draft.
Ken Hinkley, whom Hardwick beat for the Richmond job, is a fine coach. If he and Port can’t come to terms despite a possible top-four finish, he could be available. At 57 in September, however, it’s doubtful that Hinkley would be feasible for a long-term.
There might be other senior coaches, too, willing to come to Tigerland to take over a playing list that’s far from fully replenished and which will lose Trent Cotchin, Jack Riewoldt, Martin, Dylan Grimes and maybe Dion Prestia relatively soon, having already lost Shane Edwards, Bachar Houli, Kane Lambert and David Astbury from the 2017-2020 crew.
Richmond, thus, will likely be fielding significantly younger teams in 2024-2025 and while they mightn’t agree, the Tigers should be viewing the next two years as developmental, rather than contention-focused. Tom Lynch is certainly a transformational player, but regaining Lynch – and Josh Gibcus – will not be sufficient to prise open the premiership window.
The new coach should be afforded time to build a team, game style and ethos that can withstand fluctuations in performance. Another small factor favouring a first-timer: it will cost less in a limited footy budget (soft cap) at a club that has attacked the AFL for their cuts to football spending.
Richmond’s is an established program that needs re-energising rather than revolution, and is made for a first-time coach who’s done his dues and who aspires to be the next Damien Hardwick.
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Essendon assistant coach Daniel Giansiracusa, Richmond caretaker coach Andrew McQualter, and Melbourne assistant Adem Yze CREDIT:GETTY IMAGES
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Assistant coach Jaymie Graham addresses the Fremantle group. CREDIT:AFL PHOTOS
https://www.theage.com.au/sport/afl/young-and-bold-the-type-of-coach-richmond-should-hire-20230608-p5df71.html
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It would be surprising if Richmond hadn’t already held some informal discussions about the type of coach they want to steer the Tigers into their next phase.
It would be surprising if we hadn't already held formal discussions about the attributes our next coach should possess, considering that is exactly what Brendon Gale said we were going to do.
Whenever I think about the type of coach we should hire next, I just ask myself, "what would Jake Niall do?"
#wwjnd
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:lol.
Jakey Nails
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I really hope we appoint a coach that the media are happy with ... ::)
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If it's like our drafting it'll either be Morris or some bloke no-one's heard of from an interstate league.... :shh
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I reckon we'll go for Leppa, McQualter, Grigg (unlikely) or someone who already has a good understanding and buy-in to the culture that we've so carefully constructed over the last 10 years. I don't reckon we want someone who will come in and have strong (different) ideas about how the place should run.
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‘He’s 70 per cent!’ The Tigers ‘frontrunner’ to replace Dimma in 2024 and beyond
Catherine Healey
Fox Sports
June 9th, 2023 5:00 pm
Richmond interim coach Andrew McQualter remains the “frontrunner” to secure the job permanently, a Fox Footy expert believes.
Speaking on Thursday night, Leigh Montagna said he thinks McQualter is a “70 per cent” chance to become Damien Hardwick’s replacement for 2024 and beyond.
McQualter has been at the Richmond Football Club since 2014, working as an assistant under Hardwick.
“I’m hearing some positive (reactions to McQualter’s time in charge),” Montagna said.
“I think they want to continue the Richmond way, so they like the Richmond brand that Damien Hardwick has built. Andrew McQualter has got some insight to that.
“Fresh voice, he’s highly respected.
“I reckon he’s 70 per cent (odds to get the full time job). He’s the frontrunner right now. The absolute frontrunner.
“It’s going to take someone very good to beat him.”
https://www.foxsports.com.au/afl/hes-70-per-cent-the-tigers-frontrunner-to-replace-dimma-in-2024-and-beyond/news-story/8d8d54e60ca04f72f920b6decfe130fc
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Ooh dear. After no real change to what Dimma has done we are going to give him the nod already,
Stfu montagna. Looking after a saints dud I see
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I've got no doubt the Club will be thorugh
Think people are forgetting that we still have Balmey and we all know what a great operator he is.
The media and commentators will do what they always do and that's give an opinion that means nil in the overall scheme of things but certainly fire's up the faithful
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I reckon we'll go for Leppa, McQualter, Grigg (unlikely) or someone who already has a good understanding and buy-in to the culture that we've so carefully constructed over the last 10 years. I don't reckon we want someone who will come in and have strong (different) ideas about how the place should run.
Who ever comes in should have strong views on how we play and leave how the place is run to those who's job it is.
Maybe the way we play is good enough the problem then is we no longer have the cattle to do it.
Maybe the way we play is now outdated and we need fresh ideas and personell to change direction.
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Maybe the way we play is good enough the problem then is we no longer have the cattle to do it.
Maybe the way we play is now outdated and we need fresh ideas and personell to change direction.
I would ague it is the former not the latter
Team currently sitting on top of the ladder play a very similar style to what we did when we won flags and still do. Biggest difference they execute their skills consistently we don't.
Outside of them the majority of clubs play styles very similar to what we did in our Golden period
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I reckon we'll go for Leppa, McQualter, Grigg (unlikely) or someone who already has a good understanding and buy-in to the culture that we've so carefully constructed over the last 10 years. I don't reckon we want someone who will come in and have strong (different) ideas about how the place should run.
Who ever comes in should have strong views on how we play and leave how the place is run to those who's job it is.
Maybe the way we play is good enough the problem then is we no longer have the cattle to do it.
Maybe the way we play is now outdated and we need fresh ideas and personell to change direction.
Sure, I was talking off field, not on field. I don't care what the new coach does on field, as long as it is successful.
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:propeller
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Hope the club doesn’t get seduced by some wins by the caretaker coach like clubs have in the past…..Teague, Rhyce Shaw, Ratten at the blues & saints, it just hasn’t been shown in recent history to be a good move.
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Jon Ralph on twitter:
Andrew McQualter will have to win the Richmond job despite Teague, Shaw and Ratten being sacked as interim coaches who got the main job. But Richmond insiders are so impressed. The players love him. A long way to go but it would take a very, very good candidate to roll him
Agree. What I was trying to say was that clubs might be wary of appointing an interim who gives the club a sugar rush after Teague and Shaw. So they should consider Lepper, Pyke, Gia, etc. Just think they would have to be something bloody good to beat him
And he coaches against Ross who tried to poach him!
https://twitter.com/RalphyHeraldSun/status/1667504885871562753
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Anyone talking about getting Don Pyke to Richmond left their brains at the door. Seriously dumb. Non-starter.
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At least he knows the song off by heart.... :shh
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HOW THE TIGERS PLAN TO USE DIMMA EXIT TO GET “AHEAD OF THE GAME” IN COACHING SEARCH
Seb Mottram
SEN
13 June 2023
Richmond CEO Brendon Gale says Richmond has time to get ahead of what could be a coaching merry-go-round at the end of the year thanks to Damien Hardwick’s decision to step away early.
Andrew McQualter has been standing in for Hardwick since Round 11 after the three-time premiership coach cited burnout in his decision to leave Punt Road.
While the Tigers don’t have a timeline to approach candidates, Gale says they’ll be at the front of the pack courtesy of Hardwick’s call.
“One of the benefits of Damien selflessly pulling up is it gives us time and space to get ahead of the game… it’s about getting the right process and if you get the right process you’re more likely to make a strong decision,” he told reporters on Tuesday night.
Richmond will not rush into choosing Damien Hardwick's successor but chief executive Brendon Gale has praised Andrew McQualter's seamless transition as interim coach.
Gale said it was a "work in progress" to put together a sub-committee as the Tigers search for a new coach for the first time since 2009.
Gale – as the primary decision maker in Hardwick’s replacement – confirmed the club would seek internal and external feedback before detailing the key traits Richmond needs in a coach.
“I think more than ever, emotional intelligence. Highly intelligent, have a great empathy and understanding and the ability to build relationships is becoming more and more important,” he stated.
But the Tigers might already have their next senior coach in the hot seat.
McQualter has coached two wins from his three games in charge, including a 15-point upset over Fremantle on the weekend.
A former St Kilda and Gold Coast player, McQualter had flown under the radar but is now seen as one of the leading contenders for the vacant job.
“He’s going well, he’s good. We were spoiled for choice and we had a number of coaches who had coached their own team at various levels, he was the only one who hadn’t,” Gale explained.
“So we thought it’d be good to have a look at him and he’s got great connection with the group and great connection with our club, so he knows what makes us us.
“We’ve got a bit of bounce and a bit of energy and we’re competitive and we're a bit more recognisable. It’s always nice to win.”
But the CEO added McQualter wasn’t expected to play a major role in the club’s list management.
https://www.sen.com.au/news/2023/06/13/how-the-tigers-plan-to-use-dimma-exit-to-get-ahead-of-the-game-in-coaching/
https://www.perthnow.com.au/sport/afl/richmond-boss-gale-says-tigers-wont-rush-coach-search-c-10966544
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What are our thoughts about mini? I think we’re all aware and cautious of the honeymoon period but has he started to win anyone over?
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I think we need to reinvigorate a new generation and hit the draft hard over the next 3-5 years so with a new era I think we need a new coach
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not even in the slightest. How many caretakers have worked? Maybe 1.
lets see how he goes at Pooiad. Then we can really assess how he has gone.
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What are our thoughts about mini? I think we’re all aware and cautious of the honeymoon period but has he started to win anyone over?
Warming to him.
Players certainly seem to play for him
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We are in a tricky spot IMHO
What has been built in the last 6 years in particular you don't want to lose. It got us 3 flags
I'm taking about the connection, the clear love the playing group has for one another, the unmistakable bond. Something I don't think we've had since the Hafey era.
We don't want and can't afford to lose that
So our next coach whoever it is needs to be able to keep that and build further on it. Massive challenge indeed
And on Simonator's question I reckon Mini is doing exactly what he needs to do for the now. Let's see the how the rest of the season goes and go from there. FWIW Mini hasn't actually put his hand up for the full time gig yet
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Give him credit speakes we'll and there is a football brain there.
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I'm taking about the connection, the clear love the playing group has for one another, the unmistakable bond. Something I don't think we've had since the Hafey era.
We don't want and can't afford to lose that
So our next coach whoever it is needs to be able to keep that and build further on it. Massive challenge indeed
Cotch mentioned the importance of connection after the game last night.
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From the HeraldSun:
"The connection across the ground - that's when you know that there's real confidence amongst the group and it doesn't rely on an individual or a few individuals," triple-premiership skipper Cotchin said.
"It relies on everyone, it sounds really boring but playing their role and executing on their role. But I think that's where our confidence continues to build and grow.
"We've probably still got huge growth in that area as well and that's what's really exciting for our group.
"We've got some players that are chipping away in rehab that would love to be out there at the moment and the VFL performed really well today, some great young talent that are showing great signs there.
"So we're really excited about what the back end of the season can look like.
"Obviously it's been a bit of a slog to get to round 15 bye. It feels like a long beginning to the season but we know that we can play some real good footy in the back half."
The Tigers have three wins and one tight loss to leaders Port Adelaide under interim coach Andrew McQualter.
"There's a willingness to go to work and make sure that you do your part to make the team better," Cotchin said.
"That's not to say that it wasn't there earlier in the year but it's definitely been a focus for the last four or five weeks and our guys thrive on that and we're really excited about what that can do for us moving forward."
https://www.perthnow.com.au/sport/afl/best-to-come-for-tigers-amid-winning-run-cotchin-c-11012390
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In people within the walls of the club will know where our stand in coach sits.
He hasn’t put his up yet.
Much to play out.
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We are in a tricky spot IMHO
What has been built in the last 6 years in particular you don't want to lose. It got us 3 flags
I'm taking about the connection, the clear love the playing group has for one another, the unmistakable bond. Something I don't think we've had since the Hafey era.
We don't want and can't afford to lose that
So our next coach whoever it is needs to be able to keep that and build further on it. Massive challenge indeed
And on Simonator's question I reckon Mini is doing exactly what he needs to do for the now. Let's see the how the rest of the season goes and go from there. FWIW Mini hasn't actually put his hand up for the full time gig yet
Agree with this and think this is an E proud challenge for the new coach. Which is why it's Leppas job if he wants it.
With Jack and Cotch going there will be a need of the new brigade driving current values which is always very tough.
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I like how he seems very unassuming.
Press conferences have been good.
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I like how he seems very unassuming.
Press conferences have been good.
Agreed. Get a good feeling from him.
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Fourth time’s a charm? McQualter can buck the interim-coach curse and propel Richmond back to a flag tilt
Ben Wilmoth
theRoar.com.au
19 June 2023
How quickly fortunes can change.
In Saturday night’s driving rain at the MCG it was sometimes hard to see, but two things were as clear as day: first Richmond seemed to have got its mojo back in its win over the Saints, using the go-forward-at-all-costs brand that became Damien Hardwick’s signature and which was used with such stunning success. The Tigers’ season is alive. And second, the win has consolidated Andrew McQualter’s chances of grabbing the top job.
The fact that this was achieved in such challenging conditions and in Trent Cotchin’s 300th game just underscored Tiger excitement, and that the coach they’re looking for might already be in the job.
If departed triple Premiership-winning Richmond coach Damien Hardwick tried to cook the sausage 1000 times and failed to inspire his champion side, as he colourfully put it on his way out, caretaker coach McQualter might have found a new recipe.
There’s something mysterious about interim coach success. We’ve seen teams one week dish up a coach-killing performance, then, when the interim coach takes over, they knock off a premiership fancy the next.
A new message – from a new voice – can ignite a spark in an otherwise dour and uncompetitive outfit.
McQualter is firming as the next interim coach to be signed on for the top job, after Hardwick sensationally quit after Round 10.
The interim coach is generally regarded as the stop gap option, but sometimes – after expert panels and extensive nation-wide searches – the person they want is waiting in the room next door. He knows the game plan, he knows the culture, he knows the players and it’s not a massive and perhaps disruptive handover. This smooth transition can make a lot of sense.
But the strike rate of successful caretaker coaches isn’t good.
Since 2000, only 10 of 25 interim coaches have been signed to the top job, and the majority of those successful have had brief stays.
After Brad Scott and North Melbourne mutually parted ways mid-season in 2019, Rhyce Shaw, long-time assistant coach, replaced him. The Roos then won four matches from eight games to keep them in contention to steal an unexpected spot in the finals.
Only two weeks later, David Teague took the reins from then Carlton senior coach Brendan Bolton, who registered 16 wins from 77 games and a 1-11 record mid-way through the 2019 season. With popular support among the Blues faithful, Teague was given the job after going 5-4.
Brett Ratten, a month later, became the third man to convince his club’s board that his work as interim boss was deserving of the top job, leading the Saints to three wins from the remaining six games.
But both McQualter, the man leading the surge, and Richmond are acutely cognisant of the fact that only three seasons after winning the job, none of Shaw, Teague or Ratten remain in charge.
So, is the successful caretaker to full-time theory still in fashion at club land? McQualter will have to convince Richmond CEO Brendan Gale and President John O’Rourke to ignore recent history.
“Mini” McQualter, like other acting senior coaches, will be given a head start in the race for the job not only through his connection to players and staff, but through a liveliness and spirit that is inevitably born through change.
McQualter’s endorsers will point to the success of Paul Roos, who, after Rodney Eade resigned mid-year, took charge of the Sydney Swans in 2002 and led them to a flag three years later. Roos’ success is the exception to the rule, being the only stop gap coach this century to produce silverware. In this way, the odds remain stacked against McQualter.
During McQualter’s brief stint, Richmond have shown shades of their flag-winning best, playing their style of daring, chaos-embracing footy for which they became renowned.
In an evenly-placed competition, three wins in a row has moved them back into the finals conversation, now only 2 premiership points outside the eight.
Richmond, says Gale, is looking for ‘the next Damien Hardwick’. And McQualter might be just that after a nine-year apprenticeship under the champion coach
Gale’s comments give us an indication of Richmond’s headhunting strategy. It effectively crosses off the out-of-contract Ken Hinkley, highly rated tactician and ex-Crows coach Don Pyke, Nathan Buckley, and anyone else who’s done it before.
If Richmond are looking for the next Hardwick, McQualter will be given a runway against other untried candidates like Adem Yze, Daniel Giansiracusa or Ashley Hansen.
Word around football is that McQualter is well-placed. If he can continue the Tigers’ climb post the bye, starting with a win over the Lions on prime-time Thursday Night Footy at the Gabba, his credentials for the job will be hard to ignore.
We know what it means if Richmond qualify for September: not only will it strike fear into the hearts of whoever faces them, but McQualter may just be the one to break the interim coach curse.
It could be that the sausages he’s cooking prove to be the recipe Richmond needs.
https://www.theroar.com.au/2023/06/19/fourth-times-a-charm-mcqualter-can-buck-the-interim-coach-curse-and-propel-richmond-back-to-a-flag-tilt/
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Is Andrew McQualter a chance to win the Tigers job permanently, or should the club be wary of the caretaker curse? #9FootyClassified
Click on pic/link:
(http://oneeyed-richmond.com/images/coaches/FootyClassified19062023.png) (https://twitter.com/FootyonNine/status/1670767517483307009)
https://twitter.com/FootyonNine/status/1670767517483307009
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"I think we need to take a breath on this one." - Luke Hodge.
Hodgey gives his take on Andrew McQualter's chances of winning the full-time Richmond job.
WATCH HERE: https://twitter.com/1116sen/status/1670724314973507586
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"I think we need to take a breath on this one." - Luke Hodge.
Hodgey gives his take on Andrew McQualter's chances of winning the full-time Richmond job.
WATCH HERE: https://twitter.com/1116sen/status/1670724314973507586
WHY THE TIGERS MUST NOT RUSH INTO APPOINTING MCQUALTER AS THEIR NEXT FULL-TIME SENIOR COACH
Hugh Fitzpatrick
SEN
20 June 2023
Hawthorn great Luke Hodge says the Richmond Football Club shouldn’t rush into appointing interim coach Andrew McQualter as their next full-time senior coach.
Despite winning three on the trot under McQualter’s guidance, Hodge believes the Tigers’ mindset has shifted dramatically since Damien Hardwick resigned late last month.
Richmond’s latest victory came in the form of a 20-point triumph over St Kilda in the pouring rain on Saturday in what was a vintage Tigers performance.
Trent Cotchin and Dustin Martin wound back the clock with best on ground performances, looking like the players that starred during their premiership era.
It was performances that Richmond fans hadn’t seen from that duo under the Hardwick-coached Tigers in 2023, with both Cotchin and Martin used primarily as forwards this year.
Hodge says that by moving that duo back into the midfield fold highlights a clear mindset change under McQualter, one that shows he’s coaching for the now compared to Hardwick who was coaching for the future.
“He’s been doing a pretty good job, but I think you look back and you look at the mindset of what Hardwick was trying to do compared to what Andrew McQualter is trying to do,” Hodge told SEN's Sportsday.
“Hardwick brought in Jacob Hopper and Tim Tarranto into the team to try and rejuvenate, he put Trent Cotchin and Dustin Martin forward to try and continue the success that they had.
“As soon as McQualter came in, Cotchin has been playing 90 per cent midfield and he was good, he looked really good on the weekend with a freshen up going in the midfield, he’s clearly a better player than a lot of the other guys in and around the Richmond midfield.
“But, it’s the mindset that’s different people when they start going ‘well he’s getting response from the players, lets sign him or he’s now favourite to get the job done for next year’.
“I think you need to take a breath as he’s coaching now to try and get a bit of spirit back in and around Richmond and that’s by putting the older guys in and around the role.
“Where Hardwick was more about the future of the football club so I think we need to take a bit of a breath and just sort of say ‘let’s take it easy about appointing him as the coach for next year’.”
https://www.sen.com.au/news/2023/06/20/why-the-tigers-must-not-rush-into-appointing-mcqualter-as-their-next-full/
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Thanks, Hugh, but we're not morons, so we haven't, and we won't.
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Where every AFL senior coach sits
Josh Barnes
HeraldSun
June 27, 2023
Andrew McQualter – Richmond
Contract status: Interim coach, no senior deal
Where he is at: It’s been a pitch perfect audition for the man they call ‘Mini’ so far: he has won three on the trot and reignited Richmond’s flagging season since Hardwick departed. Veterans Dustin Martin and Trent Cotchin appear to be playing better under McQualter and Tim Taranto is suddenly a Brownlow Medal favourite. If he drags the Tigers to the finals, McQualter will have a seriously strong argument to get the job full time. But the Tigers aren’t interested in going backwards so if they look elsewhere an experienced coach may make sense and Hinkley would surely be on Brendan Gale’s mind. Saints coach Ross Lyon admitted recently he tried to poach McQualter for his team, so there will be no shortage of jobs around if Richmond goes a different direction.
https://www.codesports.com.au/afl/where-every-afl-senior-coach-sits-after-damien-hardwick-declared-he-wants-to-coach-again/news-story/f989af34d352648e80e1fdb250858148
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If mini wants it , it's his. The players love him
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Should he [Hinkley] depart, Port Adelaide would automatically become the most attractive job on the market and premiership player Hardwick would no doubt be the first call for Power chairman David Koch. Does a swap, with Hinkley going to take over the Richmond gig appeal?
https://www.codesports.com.au/afl/where-every-afl-senior-coach-sits-after-damien-hardwick-declared-he-wants-to-coach-again/news-story/f989af34d352648e80e1fdb250858148
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Should he [Hinkley] depart, Port Adelaide would automatically become the most attractive job on the market and premiership player Hardwick would no doubt be the first call for Power chairman David Koch. Does a swap, with Hinkley going to take over the Richmond gig appeal?
https://www.codesports.com.au/afl/where-every-afl-senior-coach-sits-after-damien-hardwick-declared-he-wants-to-coach-again/news-story/f989af34d352648e80e1fdb250858148
No
It doesn’t appeal
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Should he [Hinkley] depart, Port Adelaide would automatically become the most attractive job on the market and premiership player Hardwick would no doubt be the first call for Power chairman David Koch. Does a swap, with Hinkley going to take over the Richmond gig appeal?
https://www.codesports.com.au/afl/where-every-afl-senior-coach-sits-after-damien-hardwick-declared-he-wants-to-coach-again/news-story/f989af34d352648e80e1fdb250858148
We chose Dimma over Hinkley back in 2009. We have won 3 premierships, Port have won none. Why would we choose the 2nd best guy now?
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McQualter said if there's a process later on this year then he will put his hand up to be a part of it.
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If we choose Hinkley that would be the worst decision since appointing Wallace or Jeans.
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So far I'm happy with McQualter and actually like his improved transparency. Players are winning tough games for him so far.
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Richmond strongly consider caretaker coach Andrew McQualter for full-time role
HeraldSun
June 29, 2023 - 11:42AM
Richmond senior adviser Neil Balme says Andrew McQualter’s performance demands the Tigers consider him “very seriously” for the full-time coaching role as the caretaker declared he wanted to “have a crack”.
The club has yet to settle on the process to replace Damien Hardwick in 2024, but McQualter’s efforts since taking over have elevated him significantly in the conversation.
Richmond has won three of the four games since McQualter took over in round 11, a resurgence that has put the Tigers on the verge of the top eight having lost six of 10 games before the coaching change.
Balme said the club was not even at the stage of considering candidates but McQualter had impressed everyone with his capacity to engage with the players and to get such a positive response.
“Having watched him, we will take him very seriously (for the role),” Balme told RSN on Thursday ahead of Richmond’s clash with the Brisbane Lions.
“Whether he really wants to do it yet we haven’t gone into, but he’s been terrific. He’s certainly telling a good story for himself.”
In Brisbane on Wednesday, McQualter declared he would put his hand up to take on the job full-time.
“Right now I’m just loving the opportunity, really enjoying it,” he said.
“If there’s a process to go through, I’ll be happy to put that forward and have a crack at it.”
Balme said Richmond was taking its time to formulate what sort of coach it was after, as well as the process, given the magnitude of replacing a three-time premiership coach like Hardwick.
“The club is in a position to decide, longer term, what we need. None of that is certain at the minute,” Balme said.
“We’ve had a couple of talks about what type of person we need, it’s more philosophical and big-picture stuff.
“It hasn’t yet been decided what we’ll do and who we will look at. Fortunately, there is plenty of time to do that. We haven’t put any timelines around that.”
https://www.news.com.au/sport/afl/richmond-strongly-considering-caretaker-coach-andrew-mcqualter-for-fulltime-role/news-story/dd0e812fb4877c60a670cf2053f250d2
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A reality check for mcqualter and the club if they think he is the answers.
He has done nothing and proved nothing.
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Hodge wouldn't cop this. :shh
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They don’t look like they are playing for him tonight, just didn’t turn up
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If the Club decides at the end of the season to overlook Mini, would we consider extracting someone familiar like Blake Caracella back from Essendon or a completely fresh face with no connection with Richmond?
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Clearly this person doesn't like Kenny Hinkley lol. If he is trying to get Hinkley to leave Port for Richmond, this isn't going to convince us either if there was any shred of truth to it :nope.
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Ken Hinkley isn’t really the head coach of Port Adelaide. Josh Carr is.
Joining the club behind the mask of an assistant coach this season, Carr is now in the box and calling the shots at Port Adelaide. The club’s head over heart and function over personal selection focus is so unlike Ken Hinkley because it is not Ken Hinkley.
He has no hand in the selection, nor the structural and tactical improvement in the team this season. He is not even in the box to witness this change.
Josh Carr is the key changing factor in the coaching staff this season and is responsible for the coaching improvement of Port Adelaide this season. Hinkley has been relegated to a motivator role, something which he is clearly very skilled and comfortable with. It is a perfect system.
https://www.theroar.com.au/2023/06/13/who-is-really-coaching-port-adelaide/
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Clearly this person doesn't like Kenny Hinkley lol. If he is trying to get Hinkley to leave Port for Richmond, this isn't going to convince us either if there was any shred of truth to it :nope.
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Ken Hinkley isn’t really the head coach of Port Adelaide. Josh Carr is.
Joining the club behind the mask of an assistant coach this season, Carr is now in the box and calling the shots at Port Adelaide. The club’s head over heart and function over personal selection focus is so unlike Ken Hinkley because it is not Ken Hinkley.
He has no hand in the selection, nor the structural and tactical improvement in the team this season. He is not even in the box to witness this change.
Josh Carr is the key changing factor in the coaching staff this season and is responsible for the coaching improvement of Port Adelaide this season. Hinkley has been relegated to a motivator role, something which he is clearly very skilled and comfortable with. It is a perfect system.
https://www.theroar.com.au/2023/06/13/who-is-really-coaching-port-adelaide/
It’s actually a perfect system and something that the AFL is so far behind the times in
The way the NFL does it with a head coach and specialist co-ordinators is miles ahead of our systems
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WILL SEVEN-YEAR WORST HURT TIGERS CARETAKER’S CHANCES?
Ben Waterworth, Max Laughton and David Zita
Fox Sports
July 3rd, 2023
Asked how much weight Thursday night’s loss had on McQualter’s ability to win the job full-time, triple Coleman Medallist Jason Dunstall told Fox Footy: “I don’t think we can read too much into one performance. You’re playing a top-four team interstate on their home turf. You’re going to have some of these.
“We didn’t think he could wave a wand and all of a sudden restore Richmond to what they were. You want to see the competitiveness, I get that. But I think you can excuse one or two performances of this nature while you’re tinkering and trying to change things up.”
McQualter dubbed it a “really underwhelming” performance from his side, but refused to directly answer a question about the loss impacting his hopes of becoming Richmond’s permanent senior coach.
“I’ve been in footy for a long time and I think it’s really important (to remember) things are never as good or as bad (as they seem),” he told reporters post-game.
“It’s a bad loss, but we’ll bounce back, we’ll find a way, we’ll review the game. We understand we’ve got to get better.”
Asked if the Tigers’ loss was primarily because of a lack of star class personnel, McQualter said: “I don’t think it was that today. I think it was bigger than that.
“We were missing some valuable players, but we still put a team out there that we thought could get the job done. Unfortunately that wasn’t the case.”
Dunstall said the Tigers shouldn’t discount North Melbourne interim coach Brett Ratten, who’s about to hand the reins back to Alastair Clarkson.
“I guess it depends on what philosophy Richmond are preaching in terms of who Richmond want to be their next coach,” he said.
“Do they want someone with senior experience? Or are they looking to unearth the next Damien Hardwick? If they’re not ruling out any type of person, they’d be silly not to talk to him.”
https://www.foxsports.com.au/afl/afl-news-2023-round-16-talking-points-analysis-reaction-results-wrap-highlights-north-melbourne-priority-pick-melbourne-selling-home-game-west-coast-odds-vs-brisbane/news-story/e0b5680b1dbe8598a9ebb7596ede57e7
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Leppa for me
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“Ken Hinkley is definitely staying,” Wilson added.
“That announcement could even come in a few weeks. It will certainly come by August which is what the club promised.
Source: Caroline Wilson (https://www.sen.com.au/news/2023/07/03/veteran-journalists-massive-news-on-three-afl-coaches/).
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The latest on Richmond’s search for a new senior coach
Richmond caretaker coach Andrew McQualter will commit to the full interview process as the Tigers coaching race heats up. But who else will put their hand up?
Jon Ralph
HeraldSun
July 4, 2023 - 12:34PM
Richmond is about to move to the next stage of its coaching search with an interview process for aspirants which will see Andrew McQualter committing to the entire multi-step process.
The club’s football department and board have refined the criteria for their next coach after a series of meetings since Damien Hardwick walked away on May 22.
Chief executive Brendon Gale indicated recently the club would likely replace McQualter with a first-time coach given the trend that has seen only Mick Malthouse win a premiership in the last 20 years as a coach with previous senior experience.
In coming weeks, the club will start interviewing coaches after throwing open the job to those who are interested in applying, but will also make contact with specific candidates it feels could be perfect for the role.
McQualter has confirmed he is keen to be part of the process after a five-game stretch that has him boasting three wins and a fighting 10-point loss over Port Adelaide but also Richmond’s heaviest defeat since 2016, to Brisbane.
He and football boss Tim Livingstone have agreed he would be part of the full process – usually multiple interviews, psychological profiles and exhaustive presentations – rather than be fast-tracked to a final interview.
McQualter’s first step as Richmond’s interim coach was to ask the senior players if they believed the current game-plan needed an overhaul.
They made clear it was working, so while he has made subtle tweaks, his presentation would involve how he saw the game plan evolving in the future under the current list’s needs and future game trends.
Melbourne’s Adem Yze and Troy Chaplin, Sydney’s Don Pyke and Dean Cox, Carlton’s Ash Hansen, Essendon’s Daniel Giansiracusa, Port Adelaide’s Josh Carr, St Kilda’s Corey Enright and Collingwood’s Justin Leppitsch could be part of that process.
Richmond premiership player Shaun Grigg, now a Geelong assistant, could be a wildcard despite only four years as an assistant.
The last six premierships have been won by coaches appointed with four or less years of experience as an assistant before they were appointed, in 37-year-old Hardwick and 38-year-old Adam Simpson and Simon Goodwin.
Goodwin was appointed Paul Roos’ successor after four years experience at 39 years of age.
Richmond CEO Brendon Gale said last month he did not believe the Tigers needed to poach a rival coach, with Ken Hinkley the obvious candidate if Richmond went down that track.
“My own intuition is that the need to get a premiership coach is a bit of a myth. It worked for Eddie (McGuire) and Mick but one of the great things about Damien was he was a smart coach and had great potential but he was able to grow with the team. That is a pretty important consideration. Damien really evolved and changed with the way you coach elite sport and it’s a matter of looking at the market and seeing which candidates might be attracted to the job at Richmond and we think it’s many.”
https://www.codesports.com.au/afl/afl-2023-the-latest-on-richmonds-search-for-a-new-senior-coach/news-story/53a19b8a5471849003f0bb0afa385551
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Attended a night with Cotch and Dimma about 2 weeks ago, was a bit of a celebration post Cotch's 300th.
Dimma didnt tip Mini for the role but said he and the club believed they were well placed to appoint internally so that it would be a seamless transition and better way to continue on with the culture built at the club.
Dimma said the appointment would come from the current assistants.
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Meh - pretty lazy & short sighted if true. :shh
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Many here are short sighted
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Yep short sighted flogs who can't see beyond the narrow confines of the club.... :shh
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Lol, I haven’t changed my opinion and posted since I first heard Dimma was leavening
Why let the facts get in the way 🤡
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Attended a night with Cotch and Dimma about 2 weeks ago, was a bit of a celebration post Cotch's 300th.
They were together in same room? Wow, that's a shock base don some of the stuff I've read on here in recent weeks
:sarcasm2
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Attended a night with Cotch and Dimma about 2 weeks ago, was a bit of a celebration post Cotch's 300th.
Dimma didnt tip Mini for the role but said he and the club believed they were well placed to appoint internally so that it would be a seamless transition and better way to continue on with the culture built at the club.
Dimma said the appointment would come from the current assistants.
I would be filthy at the club if they did that without a proper procedure. To be honest Dimma hasn't handled himself in glory this year with us and post retirement alot bs.
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Attended a night with Cotch and Dimma about 2 weeks ago, was a bit of a celebration post Cotch's 300th.
Dimma didnt tip Mini for the role but said he and the club believed they were well placed to appoint internally so that it would be a seamless transition and better way to continue on with the culture built at the club.
Dimma said the appointment would come from the current assistants.
If it’s rutten or Teague I’m out.
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Attended a night with Cotch and Dimma about 2 weeks ago, was a bit of a celebration post Cotch's 300th.
Dimma didnt tip Mini for the role but said he and the club believed they were well placed to appoint internally so that it would be a seamless transition and better way to continue on with the culture built at the club.
Dimma said the appointment would come from the current assistants.
If it’s rutten or Teague I’m out.
Add Shrinkley to that and I am with you
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I would be filthy at the club if they did that without a proper procedure. To be honest Dimma hasn't handled himself in glory this year with us and post retirement alot bs.
I think you are really selling the Club and the people who run it incredibly short.
There will be a process and the likes of Benny, Livvo and importantly Balmey will see it through. They will appoint the person they believe is the best person for the job.
They won't be dictated to by the media, supporter groups, internet forums or ex coaches.
They will do what's best for the RFC and I for one have confidence and faith they will get right.
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Anything that happens at our club that has the signature of either Brendon or Balmy is good enough for me.
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I would be filthy at the club if they did that without a proper procedure. To be honest Dimma hasn't handled himself in glory this year with us and post retirement alot bs.
I think you are really selling the Club and the people run it incredibly short.
There will be a process and the likes of Benny, Livvo and importantly Balmey will see it through. They will appoint the person they believe is the best person for the job.
They won't be dictated to by the media, supporter groups, internet forums or ex coaches.
They will do what's best for the RFC and I for one have confidence and faith they will get right.
I agree mate I have faith in Benny and Balme just responding to the observation.
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In all honestly i don't think McQualter has done much different to what Hardwick did.
Am hoping for an outsider that will make it easier to make the hard calls that clearly will have to be made.
Didnt we come up with a system that won three flags by bringing in a pile of new coaches with only Hardwick surviving by the skin of his teeth and new personel in most footy departments.
Its time for some fresh ideas to go with the culture that has been built.Its now time to start making some hard calls and i doubt can make these sort of calls on players they have got real close.
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Is Morris in the equation??
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"The name being floated is that of former Adelaide and Essendon player Hayden Skipworth who has been with the Magpies since late 2019."
THE SURPRISING NAME THAT COULD BE IN THE MIX FOR THE RICHMOND COACHING JOB
Andrew Slevison
SEN
5 July 2023
Both Garry Lyon and Tim Watson are hearing the same name in assistant coaching circles that could be in the mix for upcoming senior vacancies.
The job at Richmond, currently held by caretaker Andrew McQualter, is one that will be highly sought after as the year progresses.
The Tigers are expected to do their due diligence in their quest to fill the gaping hole left by the departure of triple premiership coach Damien Hardwick, with all the usual suspects likely to apply for the job.
Regulars such as Adem Yze, Jaymie Graham, Scott Burns, Robert Harvey, Blake Caracella, Justin Leppitsch and Daniel Giansiracusa are frequently linked with senior vacancies, but there is a fresh name that has emerged.
Lyon and Watson conversed on SEN Breakfast about a current Collingwood assistant who could be in the mix for the key Punt Road role.
“Richmond are ramping up their search for a coach,” Lyon teased.
“You (Watson) said this earlier this morning, you said you heard a name that had either been whispered in your ear, and I said at the same time that I too have heard one.
“All the normal suspects are going to get trotted out as should be the case, all the coaches that have been around.
“I’m sure they’ll spread the net really wide and Andrew McQualter is going to be part of this process.”
The name being floated is that of former Adelaide and Essendon player Hayden Skipworth who has been with the Magpies since late 2019.
Watson chimed in: “I’ll go with my name first.
“This guy has been around a while, so he fits that criteria of somebody who has invested in the game for a period of time, he played at the highest level, played for Adelaide, played at Essendon, was an assistant coach there for a while, and he’s gone to Collingwood - Hayden Skipworth.”
Lyon responded: “Same bloke, Hayden Skipworth.”
Watson added: “I hear great things about him. He’s a very engaging personality.”
Lyon is of the belief that any club looking for a new coach would be derelict in their duties not to consider holding talks with 40-year-old Skipworth.
“There’s a lot of good people at Collingwood and Craig McRae deserves all the credit, (Justin) Leppitsch gets lots of credit, (Brendon) Bolton gets (credit),” Lyon added.
“I hear Skipworth has been enormous and that anyone not going down this path would be negligent.
“Isn’t that amazing.”
Watson continued: “I don’t know if he’s got his sign - ‘Ready to coach’ - up outside or not, maybe he thinks he needs a bit more experience.
“But his name has come through.”
Lyon also threw up the name of Adelaide assistant Nathan Van Berlo, while insisting we must watch the space regarding Skipworth and a potential senior job.
“I’ve got one more name too - Nathan Van Berlo,” he added.
“Doing extraordinary work over there with Matthew Nicks.
“But we’ve both heard the name Skipworth. Watch this space.”
Skipworth has previously spent time as a development coach at Essendon, coached the club’s VFL team and was both the forward line and midfield coach for the Bombers.
He was added to Nathan Buckley’s coaching staff at Collingwood in late 2020 following 12 months as Head of Academy at the Magpies, and remained with the club after Craig McRae took over in 2021.
https://www.sen.com.au/news/2023/07/05/the-surprising-name-that-could-be-in-the-mix-for-the-richmond-coaching-job/
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Could Tigers flag hero be next coach?
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A 2017 Richmond premiership player could be a wildcard for the 2024 coaching job, despite limited experience as an assistant.
https://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/afl/afl-2023-the-latest-on-richmonds-search-for-a-new-senior-coach/news-story/53a19b8a5471849003f0bb0afa385551
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Could Tigers flag hero be next coach?
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A 2017 Richmond premiership player could be a wildcard for the 2024 coaching job, despite limited experience as an assistant.
https://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/afl/afl-2023-the-latest-on-richmonds-search-for-a-new-senior-coach/news-story/53a19b8a5471849003f0bb0afa385551
Doesn't need coaching experience.. it's a know fact hehe has the footy smarts. Very intelligent footy brain. Why not!
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It will be Leppa if he applies. Will walk in.
If not:
Yze
Skipworth
Grigg/Newman/Mini (If we are going care taker route)
Some has suggested Clarkson may choose to leave North for a better project. I'd steer away from this I don't think Calrko has another flag in him.
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Don't want Leppa, been tried. Will be another Voss
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As usual im going to throw a name in the ring from WA. I dont' think any club could do better than Jarrad Schofield and imo he will be looked seriously at by wce for next year imo.
His pedigree and his apprenticeship at other clubs is second to none imo.
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Prize Josh Carr away from PA.
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Favourable Richmond coaching candidate reportedly emerging
“He has a lot of admirers inside Punt Road.”
Jack Jovanovski
zerohanger..com
July 7, 2023
A popular candidate for Richmond's vacant head-coaching position is reportedly emerging.
Since three-time Tigers premiership coach Damien Hardwick's unexpected departure from the Punt Road helm in late May, interim boss Andrew McQualter has helped steer Richmond's ship, most recently orchestrating a comeback victory over the Sydney Swans at the MCG on Thursday night.
McQualter has coached the Tigers to four wins and two losses throughout his miniature tenure, as he looks to put his own hat in the ring for the permanent gig.
However, an emerging candidate for Richmond's open position has been named by AFL.com.au's Josh Gabelich, who was recently featured on SEN radio waves.
"I can tell you that there are some people inside Richmond who really rate Josh Carr, especially when you consider what he's done with Port's midfield this year," Gabelich said.
Carr, a burgeoning assistant at Port Adelaide, is considered by many to be a future senior coach at the AFL level, following successful stints at Fremantle and the SANFL's Norwood.
"You've got to think about Carr's journey. He's 13 years out of the game now, he's got a really great resume now," continued Gabelich.
"When he came back to Alberton last year there was a belief that he was part of a succession plan. But if Ken (Hinkley) signs – and we expect him to sign in the not-too-distant future and he looks like having a long stint again at the Power – would he (Carr) go through the process at Richmond? Because he has a lot of admirers inside Punt Road.
"I just think he's someone who is building nicely and is clearly a senior coach of the future."
Pertaining to the hiring of a new Tigers boss, Richmond CEO Brendon Gale is understandably keeping his cards close to his chest as he searches for 'the next Hardwick'.
While many believe the Tigers will hunt an untried head coach, Gale isn't publicly committing one way or another.
"Look, I'm not committing to any timelines but we would ideally like to have something done before the end of the season," Gale stated on Fox Footy's AFL 360 on Wednesday night.
"It allows you to go straight into that planning period post-grand final, list management, etc, etc.
"But Brad Scott wasn't appointed (by Essendon) until late in the year – I'm not saying we're going to take that much time but the more work we put into this front end, really defining the role the person we are looking for that the stronger the decision we'll make.
"A lot of people interpreted that comment ('the next Hardwick') as meaning we're going to get an untried coach, a coach that hasn't coached his own team – that's not what I meant.
"We want to find the next great coach."
https://www.zerohanger.com/favourable-richmond-coaching-candidate-reportedly-emerging-139508/
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I rate Carr his done his time.
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WHY KING IS CONFIDENT MCQUALTER IS IN “POLE POSITION” FOR TOP JOB AT RICHMOND
Jack Makeham
SEN
7 July 2023
David King is confident that Richmond caretaker coach Andrew McQualter is primed to slot into the full-time senior role next season.
McQualter was appointed the caretaker position following Damien Hardwick’s departure from the club in May, and since then the Tigers have been playing some of their best football this season.
Richmond are coming off a nail-biting victory against Sydney on Thursday night, a display which King believes is indicative of McQualter’s ability.
“I think you have to talk about the way in which Richmond won the game in the end and it was, I think, down to coaching,” he said on SEN Breakfast.
“Andrew McQualter has this group, he absolutely has them, they had a poor performance last week and you’re going to have those.
“I thought they coached brave, at half time he gets to the group and says, ‘Hey, our pressure around the clearance has been really poor,’ and they ramped it up in the second half and they basically disarmed Sydney’s surge game.
“All momentum was going Richmond’s way, 32 inside 50s to 18, 17 scores to six, it was a smashing in the second half.”
While King believes the Tigers should go through the standard process, he is confident that McQualter has already stamped his name at the top of Richmond’s list.
“He’s a different character than Damien (Hardwick), I think it’s working,” he said.
“They’ll interview, as they should, three, four, five other candidates and explore what other people think of their list and their program, you’d be mad not to, and then they’ll make a decision.
“Brendon Gale was on AFL 360 earlier in the week, and he sort of said ‘We want someone young, we don’t want to go for a second-time, older-style coach,’ because they just don’t work, he’s of the belief they don’t work.
“He would have to be in the pole position.”
Kane Cornes agrees with McQualter being at the forefront of the race, however he maintains that the Tigers should be hesitant about hiring their caretaker coach to the official role.
“I think he’s in the pole position, I don’t know, I’m hesitant to go with the caretaker coach as the main one,” he said.
“It hasn’t worked often… there is the exception with Paul Roos and (John) Longmire himself, and a couple of others, but a lot of the time they don’t work.
“Is what he has done anything revolutionary, or is it just relying on getting the senior players back playing the positions that they have done for so long?”
https://www.sen.com.au/news/2023/07/07/why-king-is-confident-mcqualter-is-in-pole-position-for-top-job-at-richmond/
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‘Been down that path’: Tigers’ contender’s honest admission on whether he’d want the top job
Fox Sports
July 8th, 2023
Collingwood assistant coach Justin Leppitsch has seemingly ruled himself out of the running for the vacant Richmond job with a brutally honest take on where he wants his future to go.
Leppitsch joined the Magpies in September 2021 to work under coach Craig McRae, after he was sacked as Brisbane head coach in at the end of 2016 before spending five seasons as an assistant at Richmond.
Speaking on 3AW on Friday, Leppitsch said he’d rather be a second in charge on a “good journey” than be the front man at a struggling club – like he was at the Lions.
“I think I’m in a great position as far as experience in my coaching journey – there’s no doubt about that,” he said.
“I’m 18 years in, I think I’ve experienced as many heartaches and seen the good and bad in footy.
“But whether you want to be a senior coach – that’s such a different thing nowadays.
“I’ve been down that path – I’m actually really happy supporting Craig and supporting this team and this journey.
“One thing I’ve learnt is I’d rather be part of or I guess a background part in a good journey, than the front man of one that’s going to struggle for years.
“I think that would be my preference.”
Leppitsch, a three-time Brisbane premiership star, endured a tough time as Lions coach winning just 14 of his 66 games at the helm.
He led the Lions to a 15th finish in his debut season as coach before back-to-back second-last spots saw the former defender handed his marching orders.
“It was a hard situation back then in terms of just where the club was – he would have had to be a genius coach to get much out of the squad,” 3AW’s Leigh Matthews added.
But while Matthew Lloyd said it was “interesting” to hear Leppitsch talk about rather being “number two in an environment like this than somewhere else”, there was still scope for him to eye off the Richmond job – if the right support was put in place.
“I haven’t heard that too often – AFL coaches I know a very different sport, but similar situation to Formula One drivers. There’s only a certain amount of seats and everyone wants them,” journalist Sam McClure added to the debate.
“Whether it’s with the best team or it’s with the worst team, you want to get in and show people that you can be the best.”
Fox Footy commentator Anthony Hudson agreed Leppitsch’s comments didn’t fully rule him out of the running at Richmond.
“I read into that that if the team is right, it could be Richmond,” he said.
“If you thought you were going to have a team that could have success..”
Leppitsch is reportedly one of a number of contenders in the race to replace Damien Hardwick, including current club caretaker coach Andrew McQualter and the likes of Josh Carr, Shaun Grigg and Hayden Skipworth.
https://www.foxsports.com.au/afl/been-down-that-path-tigers-contenders-honest-admission-on-whether-hed-want-the-top-job/news-story/698653d1df9ee53e6a70c41dd45fcbf9
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Gale has been direct in saying he hopes Hardwick coaches somewhere else. They see the amicable departure as a win-win and have set about establishing the criteria for a new coach. They will soon finalise a panel consisting of internal and external experts to select their next coach and attack the process with an open mind.
Their caretaker coach Andrew McQualter is doing a good job and will put his hat in the ring, but he will have to go through the full process and compete with every other candidate. It appears to be a dream job for a first-time senior coach, but the market will be wide.
https://www.theage.com.au/sport/afl/if-change-is-dew-hardwick-might-be-first-but-not-only-call-the-suns-make-20230706-p5dmcs.html
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Caro on Footy Classified tonight:
* Richmond is on the verge of announcing the external person to go on the coach selection panel. Benny Gale is running the process overseen by O'Rourke.
* The Club will go for an untried coach.
* Livingstone and Hartley are both contracted and the Club is keen for both of them to stay.
* Not ruling McQualter out of the job. He's done well so far as interim coach.
* The Club will look at Leppitsch but his past when senior coach at Brisbane will go against him.
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Caro on Footy Classified tonight:
* Richmond is on the verge of announcing the external person to go on the coach selection panel. Benny Gale is running the process overseen by O'Rourke.
* The Club will go for an untried coach.
* Livingstone and Hartley are both contracted and the Club is keen for both of them to stay.
* Not ruling McQualter out of the job. He's done well so far as interim coach.
* The Club will look at Leppitsch but his past when senior coach at Brisbane will go against him.
Here's the clip:
"To me his football brain is as good as anybody's in the country."
Lloydy's praise for Justin Leppitsch, as Caro gives us an update on Richmond's search to replace Damien Hardwick.
WATCH HERE: https://twitter.com/FootyonNine/status/1678375811793973250
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But I was told the players had already chosen Mini and that was that. :shh
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Personally I think we should be promoting from within, and consider Jason Castagna as Senior Coach, with Luke Meehan and Jack Graham as his assistants.
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Personally I think we should be promoting from within, and consider Jason Castagna as Senior Coach, with Luke Meehan and Jack Graham as his assistants.
:shh
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Malthouse: Has the next Paul Roos emerged?
Mick Malthouse
HeraldSun
July 15, 2023
In Richmond’s case, one has the feeling that Damien Hardwick could see that the dynasty was coming to an end and it got too much for him. He has since regained his appetite and wants to be back in the hot seat, at a different club.
Richmond, as a club, operates better than most, and would have done its homework before appointing Andrew McQualter as interim coach ahead of assistants and former senior coaches, Ben Rutten and David Teague, who could have been easy options.
McQualter is in his 10th season at the Tigers so he knows the club, the game style, and the players. Sometimes familiarity can breed contempt, but I wouldn’t think so in this case. Not judging by the response from the team so far. Four wins, two losses, and a real chance of winning five or more games in the rest of the season.
He got the best out of himself as a player at St Kilda and Gold Coast, and he knows the Tiger psyche.
Given the history of Richmond under Brendon Gale, where he appointed Hardwick in 2010 off his experience as an assistant coach, and stuck by him when the Tigers finished 15th, 12th, and 12th in his first three seasons, this is a deliberate attempt to see how McQualter handles the situation. And that he is a genuine chance of holding on to the job.
Gale is fair minded, non-fussed, and doesn’t need to smell the liniment because he’s been a footballer, he knows the drill, he’s seen Richmond through the ups and downs as a player and administrator.
The next seven weeks could well define how McQualter is thought of by the playing group, how he handles wins and losses, deals with injuries and suspensions, and how he brings through the next group of players, because the Tigers are going through a transitional period, no question.
The team that Hardwick left will not stay together for much longer. As great as it has been, it’s ageing. Robbie Tarrant, 34, has just announced his retirement. Trent Cotchin (33), Dylan Grimes (32), Tom Lynch (31), Dustin Martin (32), Marlion Pickett (31), Dion Prestia (31) and Jack Riewoldt (35) can’t play forever.
So, do the Tigers give McQualter a run at it, someone familiar with the team’s game patterns and the strengths of young players coming through? Or do they scout the field for who’s available? We may have another Paul Roos here.
https://www.codesports.com.au/afl/afl-2023-mick-malthouse-and-stuart-dews-sacking-the-curious-case-of-the-interim-coach/news-story/9e33c5ebdb6f78badd4383da20360e71
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Sad to read and catch up on Leppas stance. Those comments for me rule him out entirely. They are actually extremely soft IMO. Completely understandable but not from someone I'd be head hunting. If you'd rather be in a cruisey gig that a challenging and more rewarding one then we can't be wanting that.
I want someone who would give their left leg for this club. I actually think it will be mini on a 2 year deal. In that time the club can rejig the list and then launch from there with a new coach or extend mini
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Sad to read and catch up on Leppas stance. Those comments for me rule him out entirely. They are actually extremely soft IMO. Completely understandable but not from someone I'd be head hunting. If you'd rather be in a cruisey gig that a challenging and more rewarding one then we can't be wanting that.
I want someone who would give their left leg for this club. I actually think it will be mini on a 2 year deal. In that time the club can rejig the list and then launch from there with a new coach or extend mini
Leppa is a great assistant coach. And it ends there
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I think that is right.
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You think whatever the club tells you to think. :shh
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:shh
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MJ hoping it's not Mini. :shh
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I remember watching McRae talk about going back to basics when he got to Collingwood and focus on basic skills. That’s what we need. All year our skills have been poohouse.
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Hopper praising Mini as coach.
Go to 1:29 min mark: https://twitter.com/7NewsMelbourne/status/1681225303925071872
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I don’t think Leppa will make it as a senior coach. He’s a mild upgradee on Rutton.
They have to give serious thought to Mini if he can win 3 or 4 of the next 6 games.
I’ve heard some rumblings that the are worried it’s too much for Mini as he has a young family and that there’s some very quiet side chats to Bucks.
Also, heard Goldie are keen to package up Dusty for 3 years with Dimma and return their top pick which gets in back into this years draft.
That frees up $ for us to chase a decent key forward.
reckon this is going to be a very interesting few months.
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Let's face it, if we make finals from here, it will be hard for the club to go past McQualter. But if we don't quite get there, then other candidates might come in to the equation. Despite some opinions on here, I think we'll look seriously at Leppa.
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“HE’S GOT MY VOTE”: CO-CAPTAIN ENDORSES MCQUALTER FOR RICHMOND JOB
Andrew Slevison
SEN
20 July 2023
Dylan Grimes believes Andrew McQualter is the right man to coach Richmond beyond 2023.
The long-time Tigers assistant currently occupies the hot seat at Punt Road following the shock departure of three-time premiership coach Damien Hardwick in May.
McQualter has overseen five wins from seven games since stepping into the main job which has done his chances of landing the gig on a full-time basis no harm at all.
Asked on SEN Breakfast if he would stump up for McQualter regarding the Richmond job, co-captain Grimes replied: “Yeah absolutely. He’s got my vote.”
“I’m sure the board will go through a proper process of doing their due diligence.
“But I think ‘Mini’ has been a senior coach in waiting for a number of years now and seeing him at the helm has just solidified that in my mind.
“I’m sure they’ll do a formal process to see what applicants are out there, but he couldn’t have put his hand up any higher in my opinion.”
The triple premiership defender outlined the attributes that have seen McQualter achieve success so early in his senior coaching career.
“The breath of fresh air that Mini has brought has been great,” Grimes added.
“It feels like it’s exactly what we needed looking back now.
“At the same time, it feels like Mini has been a senior coach in waiting, just waiting for his opportunity for a number of years now.
“It’s been relatively seamless. He’s a great guy, he’s got good relationships with all the players.
“It’s been really good for us. He’s a really well-rounded coach.”
Grimes also explained how McQualter differs from Hardwick who oversaw the club’s most successful era in modern history.
“Dimma’s strength was the ability to get the absolute most out of every player and get us to that really elite level,” he said further.
“That involved that really pointy-end of coaching.
“Mini’s philosophy is a little bit different. It’s a little bit more laissez-faire, a little bit like the shackles are released.
“I feel like the boys are playing a bit more freely at the moment which is a good feeling. It’s an exciting brand to watch and we’re happy to wait and see how it holds up in Mini’s first tail-end of a season.”
https://www.sen.com.au/news/2023/07/19/hes-got-my-vote-co-captain-endorses-mcqualter-for-richmond-job/
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I know it's one game but this club needs a shake up starting with the coach.
Need a new voice and direction
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I know it's one game but this club needs a shake up starting with the coach.
Need a new voice and direction
Whoever becomes head coach should be able to mix up his assistant coaching group too.
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Need someone who can make hard calls on a few players. No attachment
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We need the best development coach imho.
We will lose more depth next year and it will add to the big holes in our list, our lack of a big key forward is a huge problem
Need quality players without picks , If we buy crap from other sides that can’t get a game we will be back to the 90’s
Terrible effort today , didn’t turn up
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Mini's not afraid to make moves and throw the magnets around in last quarters. Did it against the Swans and now today against the Hawks. His record in getting us over the line in what ends up close games is near perfect.
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I'd like a fresh start but Minibus doing nearly everything right.
6 from 8 wins is pretty good. Plus close wins in Saints, Swans and Hawks. Hard to argue he's been a success.
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Mini's not afraid to make moves and throw the magnets around in last quarters. Did it against the Swans and now today against the Hawks. His record in getting us over the line in what ends up close games is near perfect.
Sure he deserves some credit but you also have to be critical of him and the whole coaching staff for not having any plan to stop Sicily from the get go. We know jack at this stage of his career will only command the second or even third best defender from the opposition. Without any other real key forward in our lineup it was painfully obvious that Sicily was going to have a field day intercepting our forward 50 entries and launching counter after counter. The man is far and away the hawks most important player and we had a whole week to prepare for the game and came up with nothing until the end of the second half when they threw baker :huh on him. I thought vlastuin should have started fwd and played on Sicily. He would have provided another marking forward target and would have done a hell of a lot better job nullifying Sicily then whoever was on him for the first 3 quarters.
Anyway I’m glad we won and glad mini made some moves in the last qtr but it’s frustrating to see him and the other coaches not really have a strategy to stop the oppositions best players before the game starts and take so long to make the changes during the game. Seems like something which has carried over from Dimmas last 2.5 seasons in charge.
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First-year Richmond president John O’Rourke has provided an update on the club’s search for Damien Hardwick’s replacement.
LISTEN HERE: https://www.3aw.com.au/richmond-president-provides-update-on-search-for-damien-hardwicks-replacement/
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Summary:
* Both senior coach and CEO are important. We see everybody as playing their role.
* Believe Benny Gale is committed, excited and challenged by what we've got on at the moment.
* We backed Benny for the AFL CEO role. That didn't happen. He's a great CEO and would be a great CEO anywhere. Don't see him going for a secondary role. He should be aspiring for the top roles.
* More to say about bringing in an external person to be a part of the coaching selection panel in a week or so.
* Spent past 5-6 weeks looking what we need from and the process to determine a new coach. Only now ready to go to the market. Benny is leading the internal process.
* Has to be a thorough process. We are going to canvas the field. McQualter is doing a great job and has put his hand up to be a part of the process. Andrew understands we need to go through a thorough process for us to get the right person for the post-Hardwick era.
* Not at that point at definitely saying it will be someone who has senior coached or not senior coached.
* Soft cap is a difficult issue to manage. Damien going gives us headroom. Soft cap is very tight and will come into play as a factor once we get to that point.
* We took Damien at face value that at that time he couldn't get any more from the group and was cooked. Don't buy into any conspiracy theories. Expected him not to be lost to footy and would coach again. Probably not next year but if Damien feels it's right then we have no issue with it.
* Confident we've got the foundations and fundamentals to get the right people in the right roles and rise again as a powerful club as we are.
* Board's role is about governance and not getting involved in the day-to-day. We believe in and back our people. Livingstone and Hartley report into the Board. Balmey will come in from time to time to give his views on the state of things.
* Can't see any reason why Dusty won't play his 300th at Richmond next year. He's playing some of his best footy and is in a good space.
* Alannah & Madeline foundation is expected to raise $80k-85k this round. All up we've raised $1.7 million over the journey.
* A new AFL CEO in Andrew Dillon is an opportunity for the AFL to get closer to clubs.
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“Crazy not to”: Melbourne assistant speaks on running for vacant AFL coaching job
“I’d consider it and move from there.”
Mitch Keating
zerohanger.com
July 24, 2023
Melbourne assistant Adem Yze has flagged he'd be "crazy not to" take part in Richmond's coaching search if the Tigers reached out to the highly-rated coach.
Yze has come close to landing a senior coach on multiple occasions in recent years, with the former Demons star among the top candidates that ran for roles at Essendon and GWS in 2022.
The 45-year-old would miss out on the pair of vacancies to former North Melbourne coach Brad Scott and ex-Richmond assistant Adam Kingsley respectively, seeing Yze return to the Demons to continue working under Simon Goodwin this year.
The pair of missed opportunities haven't dampened Yze's hopes of running for another senior coaching position, with two more spots currently vacant at Richmond and Gold Coast this year.
Speaking on Triple M, Yze said he was still hopeful of securing a senior coaching role, but won't apply for every and any vacancy that appears.
"I haven't lost faith," the former Hawthorn assistant coach said.
"I really enjoyed both processes I went through with Essendon and GWS, and I got really close.
"In the end it's just a learning experience for me. I've got things I've got to learn and work on, and I understand that. I'll keep pushing forward.
"I really love what I'm doing. I'm not going to throw my hat in the ring every time a job becomes available. I've got to be really clear on when the right opportunity comes up and which one I go for.
"Right now I'm loving what I'm doing, but if one pops up and I get the opportunity to go through the process I will."
Yze firms as a more suitable candidate for the vacant Richmond role, with Gold Coast likely to look toward a more experienced coach to fill the position opened after Stuart Dew's sacking.
Former Richmond mentor Damien Hardwick is the unbackable favourite for the Suns job, with his old assistant Andrew McQualter seen as the leading man for the Tigers role amid an impressive stint in the caretaker position.
When questioned whether he was in the mix for the Richmond role, Yze confirmed he was yet to participate in the process but will strongly consider the position.
"That process hasn't started yet," Yze said.
"If I get the call to go through the process - a massive football club like Richmond I'd be crazy not to go for it.
"I'd consider it and move from there."
Yze and McQualter will likely find further competition from across the AFL coaching landscape, with Yze's own colleague Troy Chaplin a potential name for the Tigers to consider.
Other potential candidates include former Brisbane coach Justin Leppitsch, Geelong assistant Shaun Grigg and Fremantle assistant Jaymie Graham.
https://www.zerohanger.com/crazy-not-to-melbourne-assistant-speaks-on-running-for-vacant-afl-coaching-job-140249/
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IMO Mcqualter has to win both games at marvel to get above the pack.
to date he hasnt really done much to warrant the position as we have only played minnows and still sit outside the 8 where i thought we would always land this year.
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IMO Mcqualter has to win both games at marvel to get above the pack.
to date he hasnt really done much to warrant the position as we have only played minnows and still sit outside the 8 where i thought we would always land this year.
Did you think we'd win 6/8 of the last games under Hardwick or Mini?
Only massive disappointment for me was Lions.
Beaten GWS who are going well and Saints who were 6th at the time.
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IMO Mcqualter has to win both games at marvel to get above the pack.
to date he hasnt really done much to warrant the position as we have only played minnows and still sit outside the 8 where i thought we would always land this year.
Did you think we'd win 6/8 of the last games under Hardwick or Mini?
Only massive disappointment for me was Lions.
Beaten GWS who are going well and Saints who were 6th at the time.
Possibly mate, who knows. Maybe Giesh would have done better as well :shh
At the end of the day he can only do what he has done, but last weeks game was rubbish so lets not forget that. Ditto Bombers Saints were 6th last week as well. We needed to bury sides and failed to do that. This weeks game was a very poor one by the club in the first 3 quarters.
Im not prepared to give him the nod because of some games against weak opposition. His next month will tell the story.
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In fairness to Mini he was given a team with a disfunctional forward line ie limited or zero marking ability. Our boys have had to fight and scratch goals out , not ideal.
When Bauer was selected to lend a hand there he lasted barely a few minutes.. Anyway let’s see if he can conjure up something for the crucial games to follow.
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On the couch had a graphic which showed we were AFL#18 for scores per inside 50 under Dimma this season which has improved to AFL#1 since mini took over. I must say it certainly doesn’t look that way just based on the eye test, seems like we are still just banging it in long to an outnumbered jack for the most part. Can’t argue with the stats though I guess.
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Need to watch the game more closely. Our forward line has been functioning 100 times better since mini took over
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Caro said applications for our next coach close on Friday. She reckons there will be 6-8 candidates.
https://twitter.com/FootyonNine/status/1683402251459522560
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McQualter favourite for Tigers job - Jon Ralph.
WATCH HERE: https://www.foxsports.com.au/video/afl/on-the-couch/mcqualter-favourite-for-tigers-job!862964
* Selection Panel is Livingstone, Hartley, Gale and an external person (someone from out of footy).
* Fear of caretaker history means McQualter will jump through every hoop to get the gig (eg: psychometric tests, etc).
* McQualter is the favourite.
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Nathan Buckley earlier reckons it will be like an America's Cup run-off. All outside candidates will be narrowed down to the one considered the best and then they will be judged in a run-off against McQualter to see who gets the gig.
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Caro said applications for our next coach close on Friday. She reckons there will be 6-8 candidates.
https://twitter.com/FootyonNine/status/1683402251459522560
I just applied. Make that 7-9 candidates.
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Caro said applications for our next coach close on Friday. She reckons there will be 6-8 candidates.
https://twitter.com/FootyonNine/status/1683402251459522560
I just applied. Make that 7-9 candidates.
I'd apply too, but I'm more of a campaigner than a candidate ... :whistle
So, 7-9 candidates & maybe 1 campaigner ...
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Wonder if any chicks will apply
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Wonder if any chicks will apply
Daniel Chick?
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“TAKE IT TO THE BANK”: WHY FORMER STAR BELIEVES MCQUALTER HAS TIGERS JOB LOCKED UP
Seb Mottram
SEN
25 July 2023
Paul Hasleby believes Andrew McQualter is going to be Richmond’s next senior coach, partly for how difficult it will prove for anyone to surpass him.
McQualter is six wins from eight games in charge of the Tigers since becoming the club’s interim coach following Round 10.
Richmond says it wants a new coach ideally before the end of the season and has previously indicated a desire for an untried coach.
McQualter, a long-time Richmond assistant, fits the bill and Hasleby has plenty of praise for the 37-year-old.
“Take it to the bank,” the former Dockers star began on SEN WA’s The Run Home.
“This will happen 100 per cent because who’s going to come over the top?
“If you think of the review process, he’s been in the chair, they want to get an untried coach, they’re on record saying that.
“So who can come in and wow them more than what he’s already done in the chair.
“He’s been really good in that position, kept their season alive and they could play finals footy.”
McQualter has declared his intentions to take the role from 2024 onwards.
With the club’s process to heat up in the coming weeks, Hasleby believes it will be hard to see any prospective coach prove more than what McQualter has in the last two months.
“They’ll still go through a process, but I can’t see anybody in the process coming over the top and being better than what we’ve seen from him… he’s had the experience, they’ve seen him in the chair,” Hasleby continued.
“It’s going to take one hell of a coach to beat him from this position… and who puts their hand up to go for this job? We know coaches don’t like to lose too often.
“There might be a first timer that goes for the experience, but those coaches that have been in the running a few times, they would know this is going to be a very difficult one to win from where they are.”
McQualter has earnt the support of co-captain Dylan Grimes and is already the heavy favourite to succeed Damien Hardwick on a full-time basis.
Melbourne assistant Adem Yze has gone close on several occasions, Essendon assistant Daniel Giansiracusa has publicly put his hand up and Collingwood’s Hayden Skipworth has had his name thrown up.
Ash Hansen, Josh Carr, Justin Leppitsch and Shaun Grigg are other names expected to come up more as a coaching merry-go-round looms.
https://www.sen.com.au/news/2023/07/25/take-it-to-the-bank-why-former-star-believes-mcqualter-has-tigers-job-locked/
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Caro said applications for our next coach close on Friday. She reckons there will be 6-8 candidates.
https://twitter.com/FootyonNine/status/1683402251459522560
I just applied. Make that 7-9 candidates.
I'd apply too, but I'm more of a campaigner than a candidate ... :whistle
So, 7-9 candidates & maybe 1 campaigner ...
"Campaigner" as in the Big Footy swear filter sense of the word? :shh
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Both Rutten & our VFL coach to apply as well then it'll be a race between a Mini, a Morris, a Carr & a Truck....Coulthard & Mansell will represent the players and help drive the discussions... :shh
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This week is a big test for Mini if he wants to the job, the stakes could not be higher.
I am stil not convinced and think that a new voice and a coach with no attachment to premiership players is the way to go for a fresh start.
But he is absolutely doing a good job in a difficult situation.
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Yep, this week will be huge for him . Totally agree
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IMO Mcqualter has to win both games at marvel to get above the pack.
to date he hasnt really done much to warrant the position as we have only played minnows and still sit outside the 8 where i thought we would always land this year.
Did you think we'd win 6/8 of the last games under Hardwick or Mini?
Only massive disappointment for me was Lions.
Beaten GWS who are going well and Saints who were 6th at the time.
The only game in the last 8 worth mentioning was the PA loss.
We played Gws and they had won just 4 games including a 2 point win against the hawks who were poo at the time and a 1 point win against a depleted sydney they even lost to wce and like us got Geelong in the middle of an injury crisis and won by 7.
As for the saints
their previous 5 games went
rnd 8 won nm by 30. they were getting belted by everyone.
rnd 9 lost ad by 52. thats some hiding.
rnd 10 won gws by 12 who had won just three games to that point.
rnd 11 lost haw by 10 another team in the doldrums.
rnd 12 bye
rnd 13 won syd by 14 who have had their injury woes.
RND 14 Lost to us what to read into it.
I have no doubt if Hardwick had coached every game the result would be similar.
The real point being made is while beating narrowly other ordinary teams we have lost both games against well credentialled teams in that period.
6 of those games were 50/50 games at worst at least 4 should have been pencilled in wins.
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I partly agree Crawski.
Last 2 weeks haven’t been great.
GWS was a cracking win and the last time they lost. They are in the 8.
Saints was a good win against a side who were faltering but it was a must win game for them and we rallied to win.
Similarly, the Swans was a cracking game and a great win - we rose to the challenge when they were all over us.
I’d argue Dimma would have led us to losses in all of those games and probably the Freo and Hawks game.
Remember, we dropped games to Essendon, Freo (at home), Goldie (twice), Lolnorf all under Dimma in his last year and a half.
The shine had definitely come off his coaching, particularly when we were challenged.
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I reckon The Machine is our man if McQualter isn’t
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Port Adelaide premiership player Josh Carr rising in estimations at Richmond… the Tigers making early enquiries on the man leading the Power’s midfield.
Go to 1:18 min mark: https://twitter.com/cleary_mitch/status/1684137952803422208
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Port Adelaide premiership player Josh Carr rising in estimations at Richmond… the Tigers making early enquiries on the man leading the Power’s midfield.
Go to 1:18 min mark: https://twitter.com/cleary_mitch/status/1684137952803422208
But what happens say we make finals , perform well in finals and beat Port in Adelaide.. does that then make mini the front runner. A lot of water to pass under the bridge still, but it's possible
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Port Adelaide premiership player Josh Carr rising in estimations at Richmond… the Tigers making early enquiries on the man leading the Power’s midfield.
Go to 1:18 min mark: https://twitter.com/cleary_mitch/status/1684137952803422208
Has to be favourite on paper. Multiple clubs, SANFL flag, now senior assistant at Port. His CV is way better than Mini’s
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I reckon The Machine is our man if McQualter isn’t
Hasn't been a Captain-Coach since Jezza - long overdue. :shh
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:shh :shh
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I reckon The Machine is our man if McQualter isn’t
Hasn't been a Captain-Coach since Jezza - long overdue. :shh
HHHHAAAARRRGGGHHHH GOLD.
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Still think Schofield would make a fantastic coach.
I have a feeling in me bones if Simpson should get the arse as he should by the way then the Eagles will be all over him.
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Still think Schofield would make a fantastic coach.
I have a feeling in me bones if Simpson should get the arse as he should by the way then the Eagles will be all over him.
Simpson is unlikely to the get the flick. Not because she shouldn't but because of that pesky thing called the soft cap. Eagles sack him and pay him out then the payout goes on into the soft cap and will send then over and they have to pay the tax @ 200%. Which media are saying would be $2mil as Simpson is on $1mil a year. So the total cost to sack him is $3mil.
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Port Adelaide assistant linked to Richmond coaching search
The Tigers’ hunt to find Damien Hardwick’s successor is set to “ramp up”.
Mitch Keating
zerohanger.com
July 27, 2023
Port Adelaide assistant Josh Carr is said to be 'rising in estimations' for Richmond's coaching search, potentially rivalling Tigers interim coach Andrew McQualter for the vacancy.
McQualter is seen as the short favourite for the role to succeed his ex-mentor and triple premiership coach Damien Hardwick, who resigned from his duties in May midway through his 14th season at the helm of the Punt Road club.
Since Hardwick's departure, the Tigers have recorded six wins from eight games under McQualter's watch to see their season back on track for a potential finals berth.
The turnaround has led McQualter to move into favouritism for the senior coaching job, however, his candidacy won't come unopposed.
Richmond is set to work through an extensive process to find their next coach, with a sub-committee to lead the search party to be finalised as early as this week.
Among the candidates that could be of interest to the Tigers is Carr, who has been seen as an influential presence on Port Adelaide's strong 2023 campaign. Carr returned to his former club as an assistant coach ahead of this season after three years with Fremantle under Justin Longmuir.
Carr has built a strong coaching CV since calling time on his premiership-winning 2017-game career with the Power and Dockers, having led SANFL side North Adelaide to a flag in his final year with the Roosters before heading to Perth.
Previously an assistant at Alberton from 2011-2015, Carr's second tenure with Port Adelaide has seen his stocks rise, with Richmond said to be showing some level of interest in the 43-year-old.
According to 7 News reporter Mitch Cleary, Carr has emerged as a competitor for McQualter as Richmond looks to "ramp up" its coaching search.
"Richmond has started inquiries around Port Adelaide assistant Josh Carr, who continues to rise in estimations for their coaching vacancy," Cleary said on Wednesday night.
"The Power premiership hero playing a pivotal role in their strong season to date. Just like Craig McRae, (Carr) has state league success.
"The Tigers will finalise their sub-committee in the coming days. The process, which will include caretaker coach Andrew McQualter, to ramp up next week."
Other candidates to potentially join McQualter and Carr include former Brisbane coach and Collingwood's head of strategy Justin Leppitsch and Melbourne assistant Adem Yze.
Yze himself recently expressed a level of interest in the Richmond role, noting he would be "crazy no to" pursue the vacancy if the Tigers showed mutual interest.
After missing out on senior coaching opportunities at GWS and Essendon last year, Yze said he hasn't lost his given up on his dream to step into the hot seat.
"I haven't lost faith," Yze told Triple M last week.
"I really enjoyed both processes I went through with Essendon and GWS, and I got really close.
"In the end it's just a learning experience for me. I've got things I've got to learn and work on, and I understand that. I'll keep pushing forward."
Richmond and McQualter will face Yze's Demon on Sunday at the MCG, with the Tigers a cache of moving into the top eight with a win over Melbourne.
https://www.zerohanger.com/port-adelaide-assistant-linked-to-richmond-coaching-search-140353/
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From the AFL website:
McQualter has led Richmond to six wins from eight matches since taking over from Damien Hardwick, who quit following the round 10 loss to Essendon.
The golden run under McQualter has lifted the Tigers into 10th spot, just percentage adrift of the top eight.
Andrew McQualter addresses his players during Richmond's clash against Hawthorn in round 19, 2023. Picture: AFL Photos
Applications for Richmond's senior coaching position are set to close this week with interviews to follow.
Ken Hinkley, Adem Yze, Troy Chaplin, Don Pyke, Dean Cox, Ash Hansen, Daniel Giansiracusa, Josh Carr, Corey Enright and Justin Leppitsch are among the names that have been thrown up.
The Tigers confirmed the panel to lead the interviews for their next coach will be led by CEO Brendon Gale and the club's general manager of football performance Tim Livingstone and general manager of football talent Blair Hartley.
Richmond vice-president Henriette Rothschild will also sit on the panel along with Paddy Steinfort and Frank Ponissi, who have been engaged externally.
McQualter is loving his time in the hot seat and hopes to retain the post.
But the 37-year-old is supportive of the process Richmond is conducting.
"This club has been a really strong club for a reason," McQualter said.
"They're going to run a thorough process, which I fully support and encourage. Whatever happens will happen."
https://www.afl.com.au/news/987888/-whatever-they-decide-tigers-to-let-duo-have-final-say-on-future
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Tigers’ burning question: Would a would clinch the 2024 coaching role for already ‘strong favourite’ McQualter?
Having helped turn around Richmond’s season, Andrew McQualter is already the “strong, strong favourite” to land the Tigers coaching role for next year, according to Herald Sun reporter Jon Ralph, as the club prepares to kick off the interview process. Since replacing Damien Hardwick mid-season, McQualter has led Richmond to a 6-2 record, keep it in the finals hunt, and ironically after just eight games, has them playing like the Tigers of old. Though Ralph reported on Fox Footy’s On the Couch Richmond is “so worried about the caretaker coach syndrome” given the surplus of cautionary tales, the team’s form under the interim boss has become too hard to ignore. Taking down a genuine flag contender in Melbourne – and potentially climbing into the top eight in the process – would surely make McQualter’s bid undeniable.
https://www.foxsports.com.au/afl/afl-2023-the-blowtorch-round-20-preview-every-clubs-burning-question-fox-footy-commentators-tv-broadcast-guide-fixture-last-news/news-story/2b1477e380aedfc00b2bdc214a4187df
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Richmond taps Melbourne Storm, baseball to select their next senior coach
Richmond’s coaching selection panel will move forward with interviews in coming weeks as the makeup of the team selecting the new coach is revealed with some surprising members.
Jon Ralph
HeraldSun
July 27, 2023 - 3:53PM
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Melbourne Storm Football Director Frank Ponissi has joined the panel to select the next Richmond senior coach. Picture: AAP Image/Wayne Taylor
Richmond’s coaching selection panel will include Melbourne’s Storm’s football boss and a former Tigers player used by the Boston Red Sox in high performance.
The Tigers announced on Thursday the club’s search for Damien Hardwick’s replacement will include CEO Brendon Gale, football boss Tim Livingstone and list boss Blair Hartley as well as vice president Henriette Rothschild.
The Tigers decided against asking a former AFL football star to be on the panel after Essendon had Robert Walls and Jordan Lewis as part of their coaching search.
Instead Melbourne Storm football boss Frank Ponissi and Football Australia performance director Paddy Steinfort will be part of the panel.
Ponossi is highly regarded in sporting circles and has been approached over recent years about joining an AFL club given his experience as Craig Bellamy’s lieutenant.
He has been the Storm’s general manager of football since 2007.
Steinford didn’t play an AFL game in his five seasons at the Tigers due to injury and after time at Adelaide football club as their high performance manager moved to America as a consultant.
He has worked with Boston, the Philadelphia 76ers, Toronto Blue Jays and Philadelphia Eagles and wrote the book Breakfast With Bails about his experiences with former Melbourne senior coach Dean Bailey during their time at Adelaide.
The club will continue to accept nominations for the senior coaching position until 5pm on Friday before developing a short-list of potential applicants to interview.
Port Adelaide assistant Josh Carr and Essendon’s Daniel Giansiracusa would be strong contenders alongside current interim coach Andrew McQualter.
Richmond president John O’Rourke said on Thursday the club would move forward with interviews in coming weeks.
“Since Damien Hardwick resigned, the Club has spent significant time clarifying exactly what attributes and skills we are looking for in our next senior coach. This process has been completed and we will now move to the next stage of developing a short-list of candidates to participate in panel interviews,” he said.
“We look forward to providing further updates as the process unfolds. While there is no firm timeline on appointing our senior coach, we anticipate the process to be completed by September.”
McQualter said on Thursday he was happy to be involved in the next stage of interviews after he and the club confirmed this month he would need to go through the entire coaching search process.
“I think the applications close tomorrow so we will just go from there and see what happens. This club has been a really strong club for a reason and they are going to run a full process which I fully support and encourage so you know, it’ll happen and whatever happens will happen.”
https://www.codesports.com.au/afl/afl-2023-richmond-tap-melbourne-storm-baseball-to-select-their-next-senior-coach/news-story/60ae3430078cd4366187248669e10a65
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Can we tap their tackling coach while we're at it? :shh
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Highly-rated Collingwood assistant coach Justin Leppitsch has revealed he is unlikely to pursue the vacant senior roles at Richmond and Gold Coast, saying he plans to remain at the Magpies next season.
Asked if he would pitch for the Tigers’ role – where he is a $5.50 second favourite with TAB behind caretaker coach Andrew McQualter ($1.80) – Leppitsch said: “Not at this stage, my intention is to stay doing what I am doing and working with Collingwood.”
“I haven’t had any other conversations. I don’t like to answer yes or no (on coaching) … all I need to tell you is my mind is firmly fixed on staying at Collingwood, and keep doing what I’m doing.”
“I want to keep growing (as a coach) and to see what that looks like,” he said. “It doesn’t mean you are never going to be a senior coach one day, and it may come sooner than later. Look at someone like Chris Fagan, who has done it a lot later in life.
“Football coaching has become a lot more about management now and my role at Collingwood is definitely a lot vaster than what it was at Richmond.
“There is a bit more responsibility in the strategy space as much as what we do on the field.”
https://www.codesports.com.au/afl/afl-2023-richmond-tap-melbourne-storm-baseball-to-select-their-next-senior-coach/news-story/60ae3430078cd4366187248669e10a65
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If we make it to a prelim, mcqualter is guaranteed the job. If we don’t make the 8 or if we bomb out week 1 my gut tells me they’ll try and shake things up and freshen things up a bit
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Tom Browne on 7news earlier tonight:
WATCH HERE: https://twitter.com/7NewsMelbourne/status/1684486573046521856
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I like it. Mini and a selection of highly rated assistant coaches with no senior experience :clapping
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Carr the best of that lot by some distance
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Mini over Carr will be like Wallace over Clarkson. :shh
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I really don’t think we have the information to claim one assistant is definitively better than the other. I don’t think many on here thought much of fly or Kingsley and look how they’re doing. And those are 2 assistants we actually had knowledge on given they were at the club we follow and support. Other than what’s being put out by the media, how much do we really know about all the candidates in terms of their tactical nous, leadership, man management, etc.?
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Many did and Leppa too, and who would have thought grabbing those 2 who were integral to our flags, would work.
Look at their game plan, look at how they communicate. Its copied from our flag years DNA.
Kingsley hasnt proven jack poo and fly really hasnt. I suspect that is changing pretty soon.
Its why i think they will go all in all on King to further attempt to replicate what we did when we grabbed Lynch.
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From Barrett's 'Sliding Doors' column:
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IF ...
the Tigers don't enquire of Chris Scott's senior assistant coaches Nigel Lappin and Shaun Grigg as part of their Replace-Dimma project ...
THEN ...
I'll be very surprised. Lappin may not want to do it, Grigg may not quite be ready. But both worth a call, if those calls haven't already been made.
https://www.afl.com.au/news/987162/if-the-showdown-is-more-of-a-hatred-than-a-rivalry-then
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Damian Barrett and Sarah Olle on the AFL website discussing who will be our next coach.
Go to 8:20 min mark: https://omny.fm/shows/afl-daily/old-fashioned-footy-collingwood-v-carlton-a-tale-a
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IS RICHMOND’S COACHING SEARCH A TWO-HORSE RACE?
Lachlan Geleit
SEN
30 July 2023
Is Richmond’s coaching search to find Damien Hardwick’s replacement a two-horse race?
While it appears like it’s interim boss Andrew McQualter’s job to lose, Seven’s Mitch Cleary is reporting that Port Adelaide assistant Josh Carr is “rising in estimations” at Tigerland.
Carr returned to Port Adelaide in 2023 after a three-year stint under Justin Longmuir at Fremantle and many believe his influence has helped the Power in their surprise campaign so far.
Garry Lyon believes Carr could be interested in chasing the Richmond role as he may have taken the job at the Power hoping he’d take over from Ken Hinkley.
With Hinkley now seeming destined to extend at Port Adelaide, Carr will be gettable for the Tigers and Lyon discussed Richmond’s coaching search with Tim Watson on SEN Breakfast.
Lyon: “Richmond's coaching job you said McQualter stands alone … and whoever gets it has to beat him and I think that's right.”
Watson: “You don't take on the challenger, you take on the title holder.”
Lyon: “Well Josh Carr, my sources tell me was all but over the line at Port Adelaide, to take over from Ken Hinkley.
“So, he was brought back to (Port Adelaide to take over from Ken Hinkley.
“The anticipation was that Port Adelaide wouldn't have the year that they're having, and therefore that the time would have come for both Ken and Port very politely and amicably say, ‘It's been a great 10 years, but we haven't been able to get there’ … but that’s not happening it appears.
“We're a week away from August and it looks like Ken Hinkley, and why wouldn't you, going to get a new deal.
“That leaves Josh Carr there going, ‘Righto, what does that mean for me?’.
“Your man (Mitch Cleary) says Richmond are all over him.”
Watson: “Well, Mitch Cleary said on Thursday night on our news that he is very much in the frame.
“He's got a lot of boosters out there … people who talk very highly of him.
“People in the industry say that the fact that he's moved away from Fremantle has meant that there's been a lessening in performance from their midfield.
Lyon: “That doesn’t hurt their (the boosters’) narrative.
Watson: “If you're in Richmond's position, you'd be, even though McQualter is doing a really good job and we hear the players talk about him … they still need to be certain that way have is better than what might be out there.”
Lyon: “They would be, I’m sure.
Watson: “The way that they do that is they bring him (Carr) in, and they do the interview process and they talk to him and then they can measure him against what they already have in Andrew McQualter.”
Richmond finalised their panel to find Hardwick’s full-time successor on Thursday.
Richmond figures Tim Livingstone, Blair Hartley and Henriette Rothschild will sit on the panel alongside Football Australia’s Paddy Steinfort and Melbourne Storm’s Frank Ponissi.
https://www.sen.com.au/news/2023/07/30/is-richmonds-coaching-search-a-two-horse-race/
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Subbing off Miller was a coach killer and Dimma did the same to early year along with moving Balta out of defence and floodgates opened. Forward line still incompetent.
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Not Carr.
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Subbing off Miller was a coach killer and Dimma did the same to early year along with moving Balta out of defence and floodgates opened. Forward line still incompetent.
Have no issue with Miller being subbed out. He was ineffective all day.
Not surprised Balta went forward, had to try something and Noah had been woeful down back all day
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Subbing off Miller was a coach killer and Dimma did the same to early year along with moving Balta out of defence and floodgates opened. Forward line still incompetent.
Have no issue with Miller being subbed out. He was ineffective all day.
Not surprised Balta went forward, had to try something and Noah had been woeful down back all day
Was Miller worse than Grimes? Haven't seen as bad a game from a Richmond player since JON was running around in the yellow & black. :shh
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Was Miller worse than Grimes? Haven't seen as bad a game from a Richmond player since JON was running around in the yellow & black. :shh
No he wasn't. The Captain had a shocker but the Captain was never going to be subbed.
Not saying he shouldn't have been just know that wasn't an option. Don't think there is a coach in the league who would sub out a captain
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Port's captain has been in the SANFL for most of the year. :shh
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WP so why didn't we bring in Ryan or Bauer for Miller if we all agree our forward line is incompetent and Miller is in no man's land. Taken off a tall wasn't the answer through.
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Port's captain has been in the SANFL for most of the year. :shh
He went out (originally) via injury or concussion. Then he couldn't get back in
He was never subbed out, that was my point
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Caretaker to coach: The Richmond dilemma as McQualter impresses
Peter Ryan
The Age
July 30, 2023
Applications for Richmond’s vacant coaching position closed on Friday.
Caretaker coach Andrew McQualter’s application has been underway since the end of May.
That’s when he coached the Tigers for the first time after triple premiership coach Damien Hardwick’s shock departure following the round-10 loss to Essendon.
The Tigers have won six of their eight matches since and McQualter is in pole position to become their next coach.
Despite his impressive performance – both publicly and privately – McQualter respects the fact he will be treated equally to the other candidates applying for the position.
“This club has been a really strong club for a reason and they’re going to run a thorough process for a reason, which I fully support and encourage,” McQualter said.
Taking over a team just 30 months after their most recent flag, with a stable administration and wise heads in the football department, meant McQualter’s runway has been different to most caretaker coaches.
The 37-year-old with a sharp football brain, sense of humour and empathetic personality quickly realised the club did not need a disruptor. They needed a fresh voice to grease the wheels of a fresh system.
McQualter continues to talk about the collective approach rather than the imprint he is making.
“The coach’s box is doing a good job, solution-based thinking, open conversation,” he said.
McQualter said it’s “not just me making the decisions” and the coaches were taking a “collaborative approach among a group of experienced people”.
His performance has been so impressive that two industry sources with knowledge of the coaching landscape, who wanted to remain anonymous so they could speak freely, said some potential candidates may not apply because they think it’s McQualter’s job to lose.
Most caretaker roles are undertaken amid turmoil, when a coach loses their job after losses and unrelenting pressure that forced clubs to act.
Darren Crocker recalls writing on a whiteboard the list of things that needed to improve at North Melbourne, in a meeting the week after being given the task of guiding the team in 2009, following the resignation of then-coach Dani Laidley. Crocker soon ran out of space.
He realised he was kidding himself to believe he could fix everything in 10 rounds. He circled three ideas: play with more dare, lift training standards, rediscover the enjoyment.
Richmond three-time premiership coach Damien Hardwick has resigned, effective immediately.
The Kangaroos finished the season well with a win over eventual runners-up St Kilda. Crocker understood when they overlooked him for Brad Scott as they needed a fresh direction, but said being the caretaker candidate wasn’t ideal.
“I was having a full dress rehearsal every time I was coaching. You want what is best for the team and to make marginal gains here and there, but you also know that if the team is not showing enough you are never going to be a chance to get the main role,” Crocker said.
Crocker, who now coaches the Kangaroos’ AFLW team, said he admired the approach Scott brought when he won the job, not only relaying how much he valued Crocker’s experience but giving him responsibility that made use of that knowledge.
Paul Roos was one of the few success stories of the 10 caretaker coaches to win the job of the 28 who have taken on the role since 2000. He led the Swans to the 2005 flag three years after being the caretaker at the end of 2002.
“To be honest it’s the easiest period of your coaching career,” Roos said via text from California.
“Thinking medium to long term from a planning point of view is important but difficult as you don’t know if you are keeping the job. [The] main lesson is to take the job for what it is and try to learn and enjoy it.”
He said to make the transition successfully from caretaker to permanent coach it was vital to “know what you want, know how to build it and have people you know and trust [around you]. This is absolutely key. You must have great staff you trust.”
That is an advantage McQualter has as he can grow within a proven football program surrounded by familiar faces who know his strengths and weaknesses.
The Tigers know appointing a caretaker is no longer sexy as the three caretakers appointed in 2019 – Rhyce Shaw, David Teague and Brett Ratten – were all gone by the start of this season.
The processes varied before those jobs were filled, but none were as rigorous as the one Richmond will undertake having spent time formulating the attributes and skills they want in their next senior coach.
That approach puts less weight on the win-loss record of the caretaker, and more emphasis on projecting the club’s future needs when assessing candidates.
To not give McQualter the job may be considered as awkward as passing on a father-son bid in the national draft, however, clubs often overlook internal candidates for such jobs, as Geelong did when they appointed Chris Scott at the end of 2010 ahead of Ken Hinkley and Brenton Sanderson.
McQualter gets that. That’s why he appears as relaxed as one can be going for the top job that Richmond expect to fill by September despite saying his calm demeanour sometimes belies a busy head.
“[The process] will happen and whatever happens will happen,” McQualter said.
https://www.theage.com.au/sport/afl/caretaker-to-coach-the-richmond-dilemma-as-mcqualter-impresses-20230727-p5drph.html
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Josh Carr was asked about the Richmond senior coaching gig when interviewed by Steven Rowe on 5AA today in Adelaide.
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Rowe again went for a newsline later in the interview, asking Carr if he had been contacted by Richmond to take up its vacant coaching position and whether he was happy at the Power.
“Rowey, you are off again mate,” Carr said amid giggling.
Once Carr hung the phone up at the end of the interview, Rowe was at pains to point out “I love the bloke, love him” and Carr “doesn’t suffer fools or crap from people like me and put me in my place.”
Rowe then said the questions he threw up were smacked “out of the park” by Carr.
Transcript:
SR: Joshy here’s another one, It’s been reported that Richmond have rung you, is that true?
JC: Nah I have had no phone calls Rowey.
SR: OK, you wouldn’t entertain it? You are happy and staying here, that’s it?
JC: Rowey, you are off again mate.
(Laughter)
SR: Joshy, you know me mate.
JC: I think I have said the whole time, I want to be the best coach I can be. That is my number one priority and I want to be a senior coach and all those things and if the time comes and I get those calls and those opportunities I definitely want to do that.
SR: Excellent.
JC: But at this stage, right now I am the assistant coach, midfield coach at Port Adelaide.
https://www.codesports.com.au/afl/port-adelaide-concussion-controversy-josh-carr-hits-tricky-stephen-rowe-question-out-of-the-park/news-story/36aed2a7b949d2a5d73c7e27921bc9b2
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Really hope its not McQualter no initiative of his own and just doing what Hardwick did.
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Really hope its not McQualter no initiative of his own and just doing what Hardwick did.
Look deeper, I'm not saying mini is the man or not.. but our forward line has improved dramatically under mini. It was absolutely useless under dimma over the past 1 and a half. And he's done it without Lynch!!
So give him a little credit. Midfield has also improved under Mini
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Most importantly, dusty is playing so much better, much more invested and happier since mini took over
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Really hope its not McQualter no initiative of his own and just doing what Hardwick did.
Look deeper, I'm not saying mini is the man or not.. but our forward line has improved dramatically under mini. It was absolutely useless under dimma over the past 1 and a half. And he's done it without Lynch!!
So give him a little credit. Midfield has also improved under Mini
Forward line lol is the most incompetent in the league I see no improvement only positive is Coulthard.
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Forward line lol is the most incompetent in the league I see no improvement only positive is Coulthard.
Surely Lynch back would be an improvement.
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Forward line lol is the most incompetent in the league I see no improvement only positive is Coulthard.
Surely Lynch back would be an improvement.
:lol :lol :lol
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Josh Carr was asked about the Richmond senior coaching gig when interviewed by Steven Rowe on 5AA today in Adelaide.
Would have to say Carr has done a great job coching Port.
Look at any Port game and Hinkley is sitting on the bench talking to players. Fine as far as it goes but......
Hinkley doesn't even wear the headphones much so he's not in touch with those in the box making the moves.
That seems to be Carr from all reports and seems a good job over their wins.
If Hinkley, as reported, is locked in for an extension at Port then Carr would seem the best qualified on present evidence.
Edit: Fixed quoting tags
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Would it makes sense Port dropping away the last few weeks if Carr has been invested elsewhere in the Richmond job?
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Forward line lol is the most incompetent in the league I see no improvement only positive is Coulthard.
Surely Lynch back would be an improvement.
:lol :lol :lol
Good to see him keeping abreast of things at the club as usual.... :shh
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Would it makes sense Port dropping away the last few weeks if Carr has been invested elsewhere in the Richmond job?
If he is, round 24 is going to be very interesting
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I’m all about the Carr car.
I want new ideas from outside.
Don’t want Dimma clone.
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Really hope its not McQualter no initiative of his own and just doing what Hardwick did.
Look deeper, I'm not saying mini is the man or not.. but our forward line has improved dramatically under mini. It was absolutely useless under dimma over the past 1 and a half. And he's done it without Lynch!!
So give him a little credit. Midfield has also improved under Mini
Forward line lol is the most incompetent in the league I see no improvement only positive is Coulthard.
Seriously, you must be blind. Even champion data has stated since mini has taken over have become no1 once the ball gets inside 50. Our fwd line effectiveness has improved 100fold
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Really hope its not McQualter no initiative of his own and just doing what Hardwick did.
Look deeper, I'm not saying mini is the man or not.. but our forward line has improved dramatically under mini. It was absolutely useless under dimma over the past 1 and a half. And he's done it without Lynch!!
So give him a little credit. Midfield has also improved under Mini
Forward line lol is the most incompetent in the league I see no improvement only positive is Coulthard.
Seriously, you must be blind. Even champion data has stated since mini has taken over have become no1 once the ball gets inside 50. Our fwd line effectiveness has improved 100fold
Pity we lost the I50 count 73-45.
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Really hope its not McQualter no initiative of his own and just doing what Hardwick did.
Look deeper, I'm not saying mini is the man or not.. but our forward line has improved dramatically under mini. It was absolutely useless under dimma over the past 1 and a half. And he's done it without Lynch!!
So give him a little credit. Midfield has also improved under Mini
Forward line lol is the most incompetent in the league I see no improvement only positive is Coulthard.
Seriously, you must be blind. Even champion data has stated since mini has taken over have become no1 once the ball gets inside 50. Our fwd line effectiveness has improved 100fold
Given how poor it was going into 2023 and then Lynch going down I am pleased, albeit frustrated because of the overall situation.
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McCrae, Kingsley and even Rutten were all poached by opposition cubs to be head coach. Leppa to be an assistant. Mini's been here longer than all of them and hasn't, just sayin'.... :shh
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:shh :shh
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McCrae, Kingsley and even Rutten were all poached by opposition cubs to be head coach. Leppa to be an assistant. Mini's been here longer than all of them and hasn't, just sayin'.... :shh
But the players LOVE HIM
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He's a Richmond Man. :shh
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Coaches the Richmond Way... :shh :shh
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New fresh ideas and era thanks.
Sub Miller last week when Soldo was spent vs Miller.
Picking Soldo and Nank together
Managing Dusty in a must win game.
Getting jumper and absolutely thrashed by a mid table side.
Time for new era. Send off the greats and build around Balta and Bolton age group.
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I vote new ideas. Our squad needs a reset and a massive shakeup so working to earn respect from a new / outside head coach is a priority. New coach, new leadership group / captains and new standards.
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Club needs an enema.
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Don't know who will be our next coach, all I know is it won't be Mini
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Don't know who will be our next coach, all I know is it won't be Mini
Didn't take you long to jump off and unhitch yourself from his wagon
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So many got seduced by Mcqualter its like they completely forgot about the giesch.
A few meaningless wins against weak opposition, and many including the media wanted to give him bj's.
I'm glad he has been found out so now he isn't guaranteed the job.
He comes across as very boring and not inspiring at all IMO.
Our game plan or importantly the way we execute is rubbish, and has been since the Swans loss last year. The pies are executing it perfectly without any issues :shh
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Our game plan or importantly the way we execute is rubbish, and has been since the Swans loss last year. The pies are executing it perfectly without any issues :shh
So what you are saying it isn't the actual game plan that's the problem but the fact we can't execute anymore?
I've been saying it all year it isn't the game style because the majority of teams play that way or a form of that style it is our skill level and our inability to execute consistently.
And can I add I am not saying that McQualter should get the job. I want the person the panel deems the right person for our club to get the job.
But for people to think that McQualter or any interim coach for that matter is going to step into the role in the middle of a season and bring in an entirely new game plan is ..well. kidding themselves
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I just want a coach who at least A - isn't averse to employing a tagger when required B-realises the importance of pace in the modern game - C- focuses on tackling again D- Isn't attached to current group or "premiership heroes" , recognises and rewards young talent and persists with it and isn't overly enamoured with blue collar plodders E- understands the concept of horses for courses and things like you don't go tall & slow at Marvel.
Yeah that'd be a good start :shh
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Dimma's chaos ball is now outdated and Dimma's system is just about outdated too, meaning we need to refresh the list and empower our next era and vision. I'd love Josh Carr.
The list management is going to be a real hard one, we have 2 players who won't be in our next premiership, Lynch and dusty who will be on 3 million between them next year. Do we honestly think we are competing for a flag with the current list minus Jack and Cotch next year?
Will be interesting to see how we manage the list rebuild, I'd consider trading the following and stock pile talent around Balta and Bolton.
Trade value
Vlastuin
Graham
Broad
Soldo
I think you could easily trade Vlastuin for a first rounder. Broad and a 2nd would get a first rounder for someone like a Lions or Dogs for sure.
Think we need to go heavily into the draft and hope to restock for 3-4 years away.
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Our game plan or importantly the way we execute is rubbish, and has been since the Swans loss last year. The pies are executing it perfectly without any issues :shh
So what you are saying it isn't the actual game plan that's the problem but the fact we can't execute anymore?
I've been saying it all year it isn't the game style because the majority of teams play that way or a form of that style it is our skill level and our inability to execute consistently.
And can I add I am not saying that McQualter should get the job. I want the person the panel deems the right person for our club to get the job.
But for people to think that McQualter or any interim coach for that matter is going to step into the role in the middle of a season and bring in an entirely new game plan is ..well. kidding themselves
I do agree our skill level is poor and signs we're there preseason .Preseason was a mess for me. For me this crop of players cannot execute the game plan because our best players are in there retirement years leaving it to a few.
Mini is a clone of Dimma to close to the squad , has his favourites , our kid's take the rapt and get dropped instead of the senior blokes.
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Our game plan or importantly the way we execute is rubbish, and has been since the Swans loss last year. The pies are executing it perfectly without any issues :shh
So what you are saying it isn't the actual game plan that's the problem but the fact we can't execute anymore?
I've been saying it all year it isn't the game style because the majority of teams play that way or a form of that style it is our skill level and our inability to execute consistently.
And can I add I am not saying that McQualter should get the job. I want the person the panel deems the right person for our club to get the job.
But for people to think that McQualter or any interim coach for that matter is going to step into the role in the middle of a season and bring in an entirely new game plan is ..well. kidding themselves
yes that is exactly what i am saying WP. Role Players, Chaos ball, Tackling pressure, Love connection this and that, its 100% the same poo. Daicos Moore may turn out to be your Dusty Rance. IMO they are what we used to be without the 3 flags at this stage.
I have been bang on about this since early last year. (swans game) Players age, Players dont care as much, standards slipping, people becoming comfortable in their roles. coaches sleeping around, It happens after a period of success. Anyone who thought this team was destined for success after 2021 were and are living in denial, and that includes Dimma with his recruitment of Hopper and watching the last dance, while leaving a 34 year old jack to take care of things in the forward line, because he stupidly thought an injury prone Lynch would suddenly not be injury prone so hey lets rush him in anyway Luke. :banghead How stuffin dumb are we?
Look at the fact we handed the role to Luke Meehan. People want the coaching role to go through a process, but for an important role like that were content without questioning Luke not go through the same process as opposed to being handed the role on a platter.
I wasn't expecting MCQ to come and change things around at all. He just simply isn't up to the task, and is IMO way too soft. The fact that players think he is a great guy and their mate says it all for me. We are getting exactly what i thought we get. A few meaningless wins eventually to finish around 8-14th position.
We can certainly build a team with TT, Baker, Maybe Hopper if he stops being soft, falling down and missing games, Balta, Bolton, Rioli, Gibcus, Banks but IMO that is all we really have and it wont get you near a flag as other teams and their lists and stars are years ahead of us.
Everyone else on our list is close to 30, if not over 30 and on their last legs.
We are going down the Hawthorn path, especially with a new coach. Cats went down a different road and achieved 1 flag in 10 years lets not forget that.
Not a real premiership threat for years to come unfortunately, unless we start making serious calls to get into this draft.
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Don't know who will be our next coach, all I know is it won't be Mini
Didn't take you long to jump off and unhitch yourself from his wagon
I always stated the players loved mini and if he continued to bring wins he was in the box seat. I sat back and observed , and he was looking impressive and calm. But the last few weeks, actually since he publicly put his hand up for the job, he has gone down hill. But last night, everything from team selection, game plan, players attitude just purely sucked. Showed he is not up to it. Nothing to. Do with a wagon
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Dimma's chaos ball is now outdated and Dimma's system is just about outdated too, meaning we need to refresh the list and empower our next era and vision. I'd love Josh Carr.
The list management is going to be a real hard one, we have 2 players who won't be in our next premiership, Lynch and dusty who will be on 3 million between them next year. Do we honestly think we are competing for a flag with the current list minus Jack and Cotch next year?
Will be interesting to see how we manage the list rebuild, I'd consider trading the following and stock pile talent around Balta and Bolton.
Trade value
Vlastuin
Graham
Broad
Soldo
I think you could easily trade Vlastuin for a first rounder. Broad and a 2nd would get a first rounder for someone like a Lions or Dogs for sure.
Think we need to go heavily into the draft and hope to restock for 3-4 years away.
Such a difficult situation and we will have some hard decisions to make.
Can't believe I am saying this but Vlastuin could be the perfect player to trade. Would get us a first rounder and we do have coverage in Trezise and Brown.
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:lol Nfi
Let's just get rid of anyone shall we, like the cats did to get into the draft :shh
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First thing our next coach needs to is address our skills there pathetic aswell as hitting targets over the last couple years big drop off one of the worse in the competition.
Get a new fitness and conditioning staff we need new blood and new assistants along with the coach.Club needs to invest in the footy department dropped off for me.
As for recruitment be brave put a few big names on the table get a few good picks in the top 30 not impossible if Blair and the club a brave.
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https://www.afl.com.au/news/992630
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Snip, stick to the topic without the childish pathetic unnecessary insults
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I always stated the players loved mini and if he continued to bring wins he was in the box seat. I sat back and observed , and he was looking impressive and calm. But the last few weeks, actually since he publicly put his hand up for the job, he has gone down hill. But last night, everything from team selection, game plan, players attitude just purely sucked. Showed he is not up to it. Nothing to. Do with a wagon
Umm no, you said 👇
If mini wants it , it's his. The players love him
No caveats, no conditions if hecwanted it. Job was his.
But whatever
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I just want a coach who at least A - isn't averse to employing a tagger when required B-realises the importance of pace in the modern game - C- focuses on tackling again D- Isn't attached to current group or "premiership heroes" , recognises and rewards young talent and persists with it and isn't overly enamoured with blue collar plodders E- understands the concept of horses for courses and things like you don't go tall & slow at Marvel.
Yeah that'd be a good start :shh
Ahhhhh yep. You can probably get away with D if the others are all there. The tackling in particular is infuriating as it was our 1 wood and we had Storm tackling coach helping us.
Why would you actively shift away from a competitive advantage.
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I always stated the players loved mini and if he continued to bring wins he was in the box seat. I sat back and observed , and he was looking impressive and calm. But the last few weeks, actually since he publicly put his hand up for the job, he has gone down hill. But last night, everything from team selection, game plan, players attitude just purely sucked. Showed he is not up to it. Nothing to. Do with a wagon
Umm no, you said 👇
If mini wants it , it's his. The players love him
No caveats, no conditions if hecwanted it. Job was his.
But whatever
Honestly, who cares if the players love Mini. No relevance. They just want the status quo but it's time to shake things up.
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No no players have the final say according to Braggart in Lygon Street..... :shh
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Whoever gets the job is going to have a tough task. We need a coach who can develop players. It may be of benefit to get an outsider like Carr who can bring new ideas.
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No no players have the final say according to Braggart in Lygon Street..... :shh
I'm still trying to read where I actually said I want Mini to be coach and I support him to be next coach. I stated the players love him, never once mentioned I do and I want him .
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"I'm so happy with whatever Dimma chooses to do."
Ivan Soldo has nothing but respect for Damien Hardwick amid interest from the Suns, and throws his support behind Andrew McQualter.
WATCH HERE: https://twitter.com/FootyonNine/status/1688009397820080131
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2023 has 4 automatic ins to our best 22:
Lynch
Gibcus
Jack replacement
Cotchin replacement
Add money from Castagna and Tarrant contracts, partner than with Jack and Cotchins you have a decent replacement.
With an easier draw I can see next year's coach having a much better year than this year.
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2023 has 4 automatic ins to our best 22:
Lynch
Gibcus
Jack replacement
Cotchin replacement
Add money from Castagna and Tarrant contracts, partner than with Jack and Cotchins you have a decent replacement.
With an easier draw I can see next year's coach having a much better year than this year.
Not sure JR will retire. As much as JR has declined in recent years if his replacement is a kid its likely he won't play a game and if he does play will likely not offer what Jack does now. If its a mature recruit then he better be better than JR is atm to improve us.
Cotchins replacement is likely to be a kid as well given we just recruited Taranto and Hopper. Same scenario its unlikely a kid with the type of pick we have will be able to offer us straight away much.
Gibcus has had basically just one yr coming off a very nasty season ending injury. I really hope people won't lose sight that this kid is exactly that a kid, and don't heap expectations on him given the circumstances.
Lynchy well he is no spring chicken 31 soon and the injuries must be taking their toll. If we are honest we should have had real promising kid in our system developing for the last 3 or 4 seasons to take over from him yet alone JR. But we have ignored this area and are now likely to pay a price.
Gotta remember also our best players who remain are getting older and the expectation has to be that they will decline to some degree.
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With an easier draw I can see next year's coach having a much better year than this year.
We had a bloody soft draw this year and it's meant nothing
Wasted year is 2023, wasted
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With an easier draw I can see next year's coach having a much better year than this year.
We had a bloody soft draw this year and it's meant nothing
Wasted year is 2023, wasted
Hate to say it there was sign's preseason bigtime skills , kicking, fitness etc club needs to get back what made us great high standards whole footy department needs a review and a few clean outs.
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With an easier draw I can see next year's coach having a much better year than this year.
We had a bloody soft draw this year and it's meant nothing
Wasted year is 2023, wasted
Hate to say there was sign's preseason bigtime skills , kicking, fitness etc club needs to get back what made us great high standards whole footy department needs a review and a few clean outs.
Agreed. After last years effort too it’s hard to say that we were going to progress, to me we were clearly on the decline. I know we had two big acquisitions with hopper and Taranto but hopper hasn’t exactly set the world on fire and we have much bigger problems than midfielders. Whilst there’s still lots of talent, our basic skills have just fallen off a cliff and then our pressure has rarely been there to fall back on. Disappointing but we are transitioning. New head coach for mine
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With an easier draw I can see next year's coach having a much better year than this year.
We had a bloody soft draw this year and it's meant nothing
Wasted year is 2023, wasted
Hate to say there was sign's preseason bigtime skills , kicking, fitness etc club needs to get back what made us great high standards whole footy department needs a review and a few clean outs.
Agreed. After last years effort too it’s hard to say that we were going to progress, to me we were clearly on the decline. I know we had two big acquisitions with hopper and Taranto but hopper hasn’t exactly set the world on fire and we have much bigger problems than midfielders. Whilst there’s still lots of talent, our basic skills have just fallen off a cliff and then our pressure has rarely been there to fall back on. Disappointing but we are transitioning. New head coach for mine
Look at the thread Richmond Sydney 2021. Most of those comments dont differ too much to what we are seeing now.
few people, ( dare i say esp claw ) knew this and its been proven to be 100% right. Dimma sleeping around with that bird, players coming off 3 flags. whatever the reason wgaf its happened and its consistent with others (lions, hawks).
We had a chance to reverse this, or speed up our development and instead became dilusional with the hopper recruitment, last dance this and that, as well as not seeing off players like Graham, Macca, and a few others when we had the chance. These types played a role sure, WHEN WE WERE WINNING FLAGS, and we should be grateful. Our list, especially these guys are not capable of executing that game plan on any consistent basis. That is a fact and its been clear for 2 years. They are finished now that they are no longer being carried by Dusty and Cotch.
Our future atm is not great. Gibcus i rate, but what has he proven other than potential talent? Nothing and coming off a serious injury im not expecting much next year so i hope everyone lowers their expectation. Bolton is not consistent enough and as the one man show we are seeing how many games he wins for us. Not many when you compare Dusty who was the greatest ive seen. Balta is another who i rate.
The list is as bad as it gets IMO to not be contender, and lets face it if everyone here was honest right now how many would now say no to Hopper and get that pick back?
I also think Jack should play on and those calling for him to give it up clearly blame him for our forward woes then? A slow and ageing champ who was given the most idiotic task by the football and coaching department of leading a forward line to a finals spot. Shambles.
I think he has one more year in him and is task should be to help develop the young forwards who should play senior footy. That is assuming we can find any, or are willing to play those we do have in the seniors.
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It looked pretty dire in 2016 and the club went full 180.
I actually believe we have the talent and in our b and c listers they have the talent to go up a couple of notches. In the same vein if you asked me in 2016 could we win a premiership with grigg, Houli, ellis and a no name forward line of castagna and butler while losing Deledio I would have said no.
For me the problem is coaching and skills and most importantly fitness and conditioning. As noted countless times the hawthorn dynasty style we were trying to emulate didn’t get the best of our players.
The new coach needs to seriously identify the strengths our best 26 has to offer and to get the most out of that. We have seriously good talent in Bolton, Taranto and Gibcus and I see something in Ryan and Miller that I think they could definitely be long term afl players.
But first on the list other than getting and keeping players on the park is the execution of skills especially around tackling, that needs to be way better
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nailed it
Our tackling is woeful and the single biggest deficinecy allowing opponets to get loose and get run ons
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Been saying it for three years - missed tackles lead to more goals against us than any other thing. :shh
Lack of pace and poor handball skills puts us under pressure with the ball as well - allows defenders to be constantly be on our hammer, slows down our quicker players too as they have to stop & prop or go and fetch the overhit or underhit handball or stand and wait for the looping handballs or slugs like Machine Man. :shh :shh
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‘MASSIVE END OF AN ERA’ AT TIGERLAND AS COACHING CALL LOOMS
Ben Waterworth, Ben Cotton and Jono Baruch
Fox Sports
August 7th, 2023
Richmond’s significant loss to the Western Bulldogs on Friday night not only essentially ended the Tigers’ finals hopes, but might’ve kickstarted the “end of an era”, according to veteran reporter Caroline Wilson.
The 55-point loss to the Bulldogs was Richmond’s second straight defeat after what had been a resurgent second half of the season under interim coach Andrew McQualter.
But with a tough run of games to end the season, Wilson believes conversations at Punt Road will intensify over the coming weeks, particularly around much-loved premiership players.
“I think in the next couple of weeks we’ll hear Jack Riewoldt and Trent Cotchin are retiring. They’ll play their last game in Melbourne – if they’re able to – at the MCG against North Melbourne in Round 23,” Wilson said on 3AW Football.
“Gold Coast are definitely interested in Dustin Martin,” she said. “Personally, I’d be staggered if Dustin Martin doesn’t play his 300th game in the yellow and black, but they are interested.”
“I think it’ll be a massive end of an era ... there’s a lot of big questions facing Richmond now.”
It leaves the Tigers in an interesting spot as they ready themselves to make a call on who the next senior coach will be.
McQualter, having declared an interest in the role, is firmly in the running to win the top job at the Tigers, along with Port Adelaide assistant Josh Carr.
While Richmond will likely fall short of finals, McQualter’s impressive 10-week stretch that has seen him amass an impressive 6-4 record, would have him in the box seat to land the full-time role.
Speaking on Fox Footy, former Hawthorn forward Ben Dixon believes McQualter has put himself in pole position by “doing a job interview every time he talks”.
“Everyone on the committee at Richmond is looking with pretty close eyes on how he handles himself and he handles himself beautifully,” Dixon said on Fox Footy Live.
Triple premiership forward Cameron Mooney added: “He’s handled the last 10 weeks extremely well.
“He’s getting ticks … he got a tick for the way he handled tonight (the loss to the Bulldogs).
“He’ll have to be right up there (to win the job).”
Wilson believes McQualter has done enough to win the senior job “on merit”, with the club poised to make a decision on the position before the end of the season.
“In a way, it’ll be for the Richmond reckoning, McQualter will win the job on his merits now ... had he made finals it would’ve been tough to overlook him,” she said.
https://www.foxsports.com.au/afl/afl-news-2023-round-21-talking-points-analysis-reaction-results-wrap-highlights-nick-daicos-injury-brownlow-medal-race-draft-lottery-west-coast-no1-pick/news-story/d5aa0c407a9fc6ad1152dd9e1ceccb47
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Mini didn’t miss in today’s game review :shh
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Rip into Cumberland did he..
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Well we now know he at least missed Machine Man (yet again) otherwise he wouldn't be bringing it up.... :shh
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Well we now know he at least missed Machine Man (yet again) otherwise he wouldn't be bringing it up.... :shh
My initial thought... :shh :shh
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Mini didn’t miss in today’s game review :shh
Does this mean the players don't love him anymore ;D
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Mini didn’t miss in today’s game review :shh
Hope you copped the assessment you deserved
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Didn't miss? He must have told Nankervis some home truths then in front of the whole group?
Did he ask Graham where he was the other night MIA?
I could go on on. The reality is that due to the fact there are still so many under performing premiership club champions in that team I doubt Mini got even close to hitting the mark. Hence my view that we need an outsider needs to come in and takeover as coach. The signs have been there since 2021. Lazy efforts, lazy habits and complacency has crept into this team because Dimma and Co (Mini) allowed it to creep in.
The midfield group are the main culprits....
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Well we now know he at least missed Machine Man (yet again) otherwise he wouldn't be bringing it up.... :shh
My initial thought... :shh :shh
i was congratulated for playing the ultimate team game :lol
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Well we now know he at least missed Machine Man (yet again) otherwise he wouldn't be bringing it up.... :shh
My initial thought... :shh :shh
i was congratulated for playing the ultimate team game :lol
Mini definitely isn’t the man for the job if that’s the case
But in saying that, the team was pathetic, and so were you, so technically you did play the “ultimate team game”
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THE OTHER CONTENDERS TO REPLACE DIMMA
Lauren Wood
HeraldSun
8 August 2023
Josh Carr
Insiders say his return to Port Adelaide alongside Ken Hinkley has played a part in the Power’s 2023 resurgence. Has developed a good assistant coaching profile across more than a decade.
Adem Yze
Highly-rated assistant coach who came so close to winning the GWS role before Adam Kingsley knocked him off in the last interview. Was also in the mix at Essendon before Brad Scott won the job. Has had a strong coaching apprenticeship and is currently doing good things with Melbourne.
Don Pyke
Took Adelaide to the 2017 grand final only to be denied by Hardwick and the relentless Tigers. Departed the Crows after being burnt out, but played a big role at Sydney as an assistant to John Longmire to take the Swans to last year’s grand final. Considered a very sound tactician.
Steven King
The former Geelong skipper is keen to take on a senior job and has been making a good case leading the Suns after the sacking of Stuart Dew. Former All-Australian ruck was highly regarded at the Western Bulldogs before the Suns poached him.
Justin Leppitsch
The former Brisbane senior coach and now Magpies assistant had two separate stints at Punt Rd under Hardwick, and knows the place well. Has rebuilt his own coaching brand but told this masthead in July "my mind is firmly fixed on staying at Collingwood, and keep doing what I’m doing.”
Leon Cameron
Spent the second half of his playing career with Richmond, so he knows the Tigers’ environment. Took the Giants to a grand final and three preliminary finals but his tenure ended there last year. Chose not to chase the Essendon job, instead taking on a role with Sydney’s academy.
Shaun Grigg
Could be a wildcard despite only four years as an assistant coach at Geelong. Knows the Hardwick system and style of play given his 171 games as player.
Hayden Skipworth
Has emerged as a possible candidate after Garry Lyon put his name on the radar. “I hear Skipworth has been enormous and anyone going down this path would be negligent (not to involve him in the process,” Lyon said on SEN radio. “You and I both heard the name Skipworth. Watch this space."
Source: HeraldSun (https://www.codesports.com.au/afl/as-andrew-mcqualter-pitches-for-top-tigers-job-champion-data-stats-show-defensive-shortfall/news-story/d118b7ca1ef9d1e272d19a08de51c32a)
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Whoever the next coach is inherits these core four stats (over the past six weeks):
Richmond
With Footy: 8th (in the comp.)
Without Footy: 13th
Clearances: 8th
Post Clearance: 14th
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What is the Core Four?
History shows premiership teams rank top 6 in at least 3 of the 4 categories.
WITH THE FOOTY
- Chain To Score %
- Defensive 50 to Inside 50 %
- Score per Inside 50 %
- Kick Rating
WITHOUT THE FOOTY
- Oppo Score per Inside 50 %
- Oppo Defensive 50 to Inside 50 %
- Pressure Rating
- Midfield Intercepts
CLEARANCE
- Points from Clearance Diff (winning the ball at stoppage)
POST-CLEARANCE
- Post Clearance Contested Possession Diff (winning the ball outside stoppage)
https://www.codesports.com.au/afl/afl-2023-which-teams-fit-the-champion-data-premiership-profile/news-story/62233ddb0866a25a0f989ee4bad2abbb
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To be fair, looking at our list management ( patently ignoring deficits for years and playing favourites in the face of stupidity) and injury list, I think Mini has not done too bad a job.
He just needs to get on board with developing and playing some of our kids.
If he does get the gig RFC could do worse than sending him to Harvard for a self / improvement / awareness / belief course as they did for Dimma.
TBH whoever gets the job is facing a bit of a mess with our list and no draft picks.
But the hopeful return of Gibcus and Lynch will be 2 massive ins
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To be fair, looking at our list management ( patently ignoring deficits for years and playing favourites in the face of stupidity) and injury list, I think Mini has not done too bad a job.
He just needs to get on board with developing and playing some of our kids.
If he does get the gig RFC could do worse than sending him to Harvard for a self / improvement / awareness / belief course as they did for Dimma.
TBH whoever gets the job is facing a bit of a mess with our list and no draft picks.
But the hopeful return of Gibcus and Lynch will be 2 massive ins
I posted straight after team selection when he took over that he should have put his stamp on it immediately and done something different by playing some kids and not persisting with the Dmma favourites. That would of given him more of a chance to keep the job in my opinion.
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To be fair, looking at our list management ( patently ignoring deficits for years and playing favourites in the face of stupidity) and injury list, I think Mini has not done too bad a job.
He just needs to get on board with developing and playing some of our kids.
If he does get the gig RFC could do worse than sending him to Harvard for a self / improvement / awareness / belief course as they did for Dimma.
TBH whoever gets the job is facing a bit of a mess with our list and no draft picks.
But the hopeful return of Gibcus and Lynch will be 2 massive ins
I posted straight after team selection when he took over that he should have put his stamp on it immediately and done something different by playing some kids and not persisting with the Dmma favourites. That would of given him more of a chance to keep the job in my opinion.
Agree pmac
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Tigers 'thriving' under McQualter's coaching: Cotchin
Oliver Caffrey
AAP
August 10, 2023
Triple Richmond premiership legend Trent Cotchin believes the Tigers are "thriving" under interim coach Andrew McQualter's leadership.
The decorated former captain used his retirement press conference to give a ringing endorsement of McQualter's bid to become the club's permanent coach.
McQualter has led the Tigers in 10 games, for six wins, since three-time premiership coach Damien Hardwick resigned in May after almost 14 seasons in charge.
Richmond president John O'Rourke last month announced a six-person panel the Tigers have appointed to find Hardwick's full-time successor.
"I think you need to have an understanding of each individual that's within your organisation and how you can best motivate them and get them to work well for the team," Cotchin said on Thursday.
"And we're very fortunate that 'Mini' (McQualter) has that in spades.
"I think the way that he's guided and led the team since 'Dimma' (Hardwick) departed has been really special and something that I'm really grateful for.
"I know that the boys are thriving under his leadership."
https://www.perthnow.com.au/sport/afl/tigers-thriving-under-mcqualters-coaching-cotchin-c-11548363
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Why Andrew McQualter’s refusal to tag might cost him the Tigers coaching job
Kane Cornes
The Age
11 August 2023
Richmond stand-in coach Andrew McQualter’s decision to ignore Western Bulldogs champion Marcus Bontempelli last Friday night’s loss might cost him the senior job.
Despite Greater Western Sydney veteran Callan Ward holding Bontempelli to 13 possessions after quarter-time in the Giants’ come-from-behind win against the Bulldogs a fortnight ago, McQualter backed his midfield by going head-to-head with the Bont.
It was a disaster for the Tigers.
Bontempelli made his direct match-ups, Tim Taranto and Jack Graham, look foolish and helped himself to 32 possessions, 10 clearances, 10 inside-50s and three goals.
https://www.theage.com.au/sport/afl/if-your-club-has-fallen-for-this-myth-they-are-in-trouble-20230809-p5dv5a.html
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The tagging thing has been explained time and time again right? If you have one tagger who gets no ball while tagging, but the tagged opponent gets less output but say still gets 20 possessions, You’re playing a man down. That’s why it’s horses for courses and you need to adjust to either team defence, head to head, or if you do have a physical running machine then perhaps you could tag?
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Mark Robinson on Ken Hinkley, Andrew McQualter and what really makes a good senior coach
Is Hinkley right for Port? What about Dimma? And McQualter? There’s a reason why footy clubs cross their fingers and hope like hell when selecting a coach, writes Mark Robinson.
Mark Robinson
Heraldsun
August 11, 2023 - 2:11PM
They are football’s age-old questions: How do you pick a new coach and how do you know when to retain or sack the incumbent?
Richmond is in the midst of the former, and to a lesser extent Gold Coast, while West Coast coached by Adam Simpson absolutely has to contemplate the latter.
Port Adelaide’s dithering around Ken Hinkley had raised eyebrows up until this week and even though Hinkley is assured of a new deal, no one really knows if it will prove to be the correct decision.
He’s earned the new contract, so personal reward and, to be frank, not upsetting the apple cart, is as good a reason as any.
Port chairman David Koch said this week: “We said … that we’d start discussions in August. I think it would be silly not to do it before finals, because you just don’t want that distraction.’’
Yep, Kenny’s got the job. It would seem it’s only a matter of how many years on the contract.
They’ve lost their past four matches and play the Giants (at home), Fremantle (away) and Richmond (home) to close the home and away season. Now lacking personnel, three consecutive losses wouldn’t change Koch’s mind.
Or would it?
Stranger things have happened in footy.
“We look at the data and we make decisions based on the data and what is for the best of the club going forward,’’ Koch said.
“And we just don’t think week to week. We think (in) four, five, 10-year plans. And what could eventuate during them.’’
Port would deny it, but we’ll run with it — Josh Carr was recruited back to the club as the potential successor to Hinkley.
It had the trademarks of Hawthorn enticing Sam Mitchell home to replace Alastair Clarkson, and while it might be the same playbook, it clearly will be a different outcome.
A phone call from Collingwood — who had sacked Nathan Buckley — to Mitchell set in motion Hawthorn’s greatest football upheaval since the almost-merger of the Hawks and Melbourne at the end of 1996.
That one phone call from Pies boss Graham Wright to Mitchell culminated with the Hawks getting jumpy, Mitchell getting the senior gig and Clarkson, the three-peat premiership coach, getting the heave-ho, directly or indirectly.
You suspect a similar phone call was made to Carr by Richmond to ask him to apply for the Tigers job. And you suspect Carr told Port of the development. And we know that instead of Port getting jumpy about potentially losing Carr — their next coach for however long — they have stuck fat with Hinkley.
It might mean Carr is Richmond’s next coach and Port may have missed out on a beauty. Who knows?
Currently at the Tigers, McQualter, the stand-in coach, has a 6-4 win-loss record since replacing Hardwick after round 10.
To have the Tigers marginally in contention for finals is a tick, but arguably the group is still rolling on the fumes of Damien Hardwick instead gulping in the freshness of a new game style, so what’s really changed?
To explore the depths of the situation, the Tigers need to consider that the era was over last year, there’s a need to restock and that the new coach has to be aware of game trends, and their future, and that he has to initially educate and eventually empower, which take us back to the answer to the very first question: What do you look for in a new coach?
Asked recently by colleague Sam Landsberger what the club was looking for in its coach, Tigers chief executive Brendon Gale said: “There’s clearly attributes that you want to see in all elite sporting coaches. There’s some that are more specific to this environment and also we’ve got to understand where the game is evolving and how coaching is evolving and what that looks like in five or 10 years’ time.”
“You’ve got to have a technical understanding of the game and game plans and communication. But I think more than ever probably emotional intelligence. Being highly intelligent and having great empathy and understanding and the ability to build relationships is becoming more and more important,” Gale said.
The gold dust theory doesn’t work
Jordan Lewis was a part of the Essendon coaching selection panel alongside AFL great Robert Walls, Bombers football boss Josh Mahoney, Simone McKinnis OAM and Bombers director Dorothy Hisgrove.
His role was to help find Ben Rutten’s replacement, a task initially that had him anxious.
“Speaking from my experience,’’ Lewis said. “I liken it to, let’s say you and I are having a conversation about ‘Mick’, and you say ‘you’ve got to meet Mick, he does this, he does that, he’s a great fella’, and in my head I get a picture of what he looks like.
“Then when you meet him, he’s totally different from what picture you had in your head.
“When I got asked to be on the panel of the Essendon Football Club to find the coach, it goes through your head, ‘what’s it going to be like, is it a complex and complicated process, is it this, is it that’, but when you get in there, for me, it was a really simple process.
“Maybe it was made easier because the coach we selected was head and shoulders above the rest of the candidates.”
So, what made Brad Scott ideal?
“Knowledge of the game, the trends of the game which he might’ve had more input (because of his role at the AFL), you need to have presence and that can come through the presentation and if you present really well I think your presence grows and you feed off that,” Lewis said.
He said “emotional intelligence’’ was hugely important.
“I also think vulnerability is big. If you open yourself up to mistakes you’ve made in the past, if you open yourself up to family and the struggles you’ve been through … you’ve got to show a human side as a coach because you have to be relatable,” he said.
“If you’re not relatable, you’re basically just reading from a book, so you have to be relatable.
“If you were going to sit in a room and have five coaches to present, it’s relatively easy to pick the best candidate, especially when they are head and shoulders above the rest of the candidates.’’
Gale has said the Tigers were looking for the next Damien Hardwick.
The Bombers went tried and tested.
The Tigers seem to be looking for young and bold.
Collingwood went with the softer personality of Craig McRae.
Gold Coast are besotted by the messiah complex in Hardwick, whose three flags and huge name makes him a prized asset, although it remains to be seen if he can even go close to the same success with the Suns.
Denis Pagan couldn’t make it happen at Carlton after North Melbourne. Nor Mick Malthouse at Carlton after Collingwood, although Malthouse eventually saluted at Collingwood after West Coast.
There’s more. Like, Malcolm Blight at St Kilda after Adelaide, Robert Walls at Richmond after Carlton and perhaps the most famous being Ron Barassi at Melbourne after Carlton and North Melbourne.
AFL legend Leigh Matthews was an outlier. He coached Collingwood to the 1990 premiership and then Brisbane to the three-peat (2001-03) with, he has said many times, a team crammed with talent.
Lewis, and similar Matthews, believes good players make good coaches.
He cites Richmond under Hardwick in 2016 compared to Richmond in 2017.
“The coach allowed them to unlock themselves and they became a great side. Is that the coach? Yeah, but it’s mainly the players,’’ he said.
He’s mystified why the Suns were all-in on Hardwick.
“This is what I don’t understand with football clubs,’’ Lewis said. “Gold Coast has only gone down that path (Hardwick) because they need a big name with a good track record to buy the club more time. He might not be any better than the next coach.
“We praise these coaches, we build them up, but they are only as good as his players, as good as his assistants, and as good as the board and stability of the club. If that’s no good, you could have Leigh Matthews come back and coach the club and they’d still be no good.
“Is Damien Hardwick the right appointment? I don’t know, but they haven’t exhausted all options to see if he is the right appointment. They’ve gone for the biggest fish in the seas and they’re hoping and praying it works.’’
Simpson is a premiership coach (2018) and a runners-up coach (2015), so does that automatically mean he is a great coach, or was he coaching a great team?
Simpson has won three games in 45, while even Clarkson finished 12th, ninth and 15th in his last three seasons at the Hawks. The point is the gold dust theory doesn’t work.
So, what really makes a good coach?
All coaches have their quirks.
The Scott brothers like to coach from the box, as do Ross Lyon, Justin Longmuir and Luke Beveridge.
Matthew Nicks is upstairs and downstairs, the same with Adam Kingsley, John Longmire and Adam Simpson, while McRae, Hinkley and Goodwin prefer ground level representation.
Goodwin is never without headphones on, while Hinkley rarely wears headphones.
In Hinkley’s case, the game-day coaching is left to the assistant, which allows Hinkley to try to graft improvement individually from the bench while also barking orders old-style to on field.
The question that has been pondered is, who is coaching Port, Hinkley or Carr?
Lewis says it’s a ridiculous question.
“Everything before the game is planned,’’ he said. “If there is a scenario which plays out, it is planned for. It’s called what-ifs.’’
Like, the Pies had a plan for Hawk James Sicily last week, but it wasn’t executed correctly. The players were at fault largely, but McRae took the hit.
“As a coach you take responsibility for that, we had a few plans and I take full responsibility for that,’’ McRae said.
“The plans didn’t work and in hindsight I should have been stronger in a few things.’’
Lewis: “Coaches on the boundary line don’t have to coach tactically because it’s already talked about and planned, so he’s the emotional coach on the ground.”
“Assistant coaches are there to see trends of the game, where they are getting beaten and what they will do about it. They’ve already got the plan,” he said.
“There’s also that ability to empower the players and be able to create clarity.
“The resurgence from Carlton is because the players have got clarity in their roles, there’s been a little bit of a tinker with their game style, and they get confidence from feeling it and playing it.’’
By extension, Carr, for example, knows footy, but it’s unknown if he has the emotional and vulnerability bolts required to be the senior coach.
McQualter is coaching the easiest period for a coach — as an interim without expectation — but his 10 games at least gives the Tigers a sighter, and an advantage over Carr, or any other assistant in for the job for that matter.
To the age-old question, the Tigers need a quirky, forward-thinking and patient coach — and board. Because, as Fox Footy’s David King has previously highlighted, the rebuilding coach in recent seasons (Brendon Bolton, Rutten, Stuart Dew for example) rarely gets to see the job through.
Lewis sees rough seas ahead for whoever gets the job at the Tigers.
“I seriously think Richmond is five or six or seven years from contending and they have to make a drastic decision to cull and trade out and take draft picks,’’ he said.
“In five years, they will be anywhere from eighth to 12, maybe they will jump up to sixth, maybe they won’t, but they are about to go through a period where they won’t be a premiership contender.
“I said when I left in 2016, Hawthorn might as well drop down the bottom of the ladder. They wasted three years or four years trying to compete. They wasted it. Extraordinary.
“So, if Clarkson is the greatest coach ever, how come he couldn’t get a team to finish above 13th in three of four years … so what makes a good coach?’’
https://www.codesports.com.au/afl/afl-2023-mark-robinson-on-ken-hinkley-andrew-mcqualter-and-what-really-makes-a-good-senior-coach/news-story/b0eb9e19a7e0278593164a6f181f9f5e
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Like Hawthorn we imo have wasted three years. We are unofficially already three years into a rebuild but have done sweet stuff all to rebuild.
If it takes another 6 or 7 years to properly contend then it will very quickly be 10 years since our last flag and counting..
This is what not acknowledging or recognising when its over does.
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McQualter today said he's just received info from the Club that he has been put on the shortlist. It didn't say when the next part of the process will be though.
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McQualter today said he's just received info from the Club that he has been put on the shortlist. It didn't say when the next part of the process will be though.
I just hope we do due diligence because I haven't liked what I have seen from him and the players endorsement.
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I just hope we do due diligence because I haven't liked what I have seen from him and the players endorsement.
There is a process
There are a number of good people who are on the selection panel. One of them is Benny Gale , he hasn't let us down in the past
Have some faith he won't let us down this time
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Josh Carr has withdrawn from the process to stay on Port Adelaide
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This is disappointing. Got to wonder why?
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This is disappointing. Got to wonder why?
He thinks the job is Mini's.
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This is disappointing. Got to wonder why?
He thinks the job is Mini's.
:lol
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This is disappointing. Got to wonder why?
He thinks the job is Mini's.
:lol
,,😁😁
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Gotta say I will be disappointed if it’s mini. Happy to be proven wrong though
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This is disappointing. Got to wonder why?
He thinks the job is Mini's.
:lol
,,😁😁
Strange decision. Has he been told hinkleys getting the can or that their doing one of those succession type plans?
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Newy. :shh
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First name on Richmond’s coaching short list revealed
HeraldSun
12 August 2023
Interim Richmond coach Andrew McQualterhas made it on to the short list to take up the full time job at Punt Road, even as he remains on task in keeping the club’s slim finals hopes alive.
Richmond is keen to lock in a replacement for Damien Hardwick by the end of the season to allow the new coach full access to player movement post-season and informed candidates on Friday it had trimmed down its list of contenders.
McQualter made that short list, having guided the Tigers to a 6-4 record in his 10 games in charge since Hardwick stepped away.
“It’s progressed and I got some information yesterday that I have been short-listed for the job and the next stage and we will figure out where it goes from there,” McQualter said on Saturday.
But the stand-in coach said he was still focused on getting Richmond to the finals, with the Tigers needing to win each of their final three games to be a chance.
That run begins with a clash against St Kilda on Sunday at Marvel Stadium.
“It can’t (distract me), I just don’t allow it to,” McQualter said.
“It is not about me. We have just got a job to do as a team and a club. We have a great coaching staff and we are working together each week to help the team and I just can’t make it about me right now.”
https://www.codesports.com.au/afl/afl-st-kilda-v-richmond-all-the-news-in-the-build-up-to-huge-clash-at-marvel/news-story/6cd5f13bc3dd74a51c616c3450526ee6
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Port assistant withdraws from race as Tigers' coaching shortlist narrows
By Callum Twomey
afl.com.au
12 August 2023
PORT Adelaide assistant Josh Carr has chosen not to take part in the race for Richmond's vacant senior coaching position as the Tigers narrow their hunt for Damien Hardwick's replacement.
Carr is understood to have informed the Tigers of his intentions on staying at Port Adelaide, the club he joined at the end of last season and where he is highly rated.
It is understood there are a handful of candidates who have been shortlisted for the next part of the process, with Hawthorn assistant coach Chris Newman among that group. The former Richmond skipper has grown his coaching resume across eight seasons with the Hawks, including coaching Box Hill in the VFL.
Candidates who have experience coaching their own team is expected to be a factor in the Tigers’ search, with Essendon's Daniel Giansiracusa, Collingwood's Hayden Skipworth and Gold Coast's Steven King among the other assistants who have steered their own team at different levels, as well as McQualter's current stint at Richmond.
Carr was brought back to the Power after being an assistant coach at Fremantle, having also played 83 games for the Dockers as well as 124 for Port.
He has headed the Power's star midfield unit this season working under senior coach Ken Hinkley, with club president David Koch saying this week the Power were likely to settle on an extension for Hinkley ahead of the finals with Port sitting in the top four.
https://www.afl.com.au/news/1006271/port-assistant-withdraws-from-race-as-tigers-coaching-shortlist-narrows
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Carr is a stuffwit. Hope he withers on the vine at Port and wins nothing
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Yep.
He probably the nudge nudge from port, but he probably knows we will hire mcqualter anyway so what's the point applying. :shh
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All good- only people who believe they can achieve greatness need apply. Whatever the reason Carr decided to remove himself from the process is a win for the Club as we cant waste time on tire kickers. :shh
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Yep.
He probably the nudge nudge from port, but he probably knows we will hire mcqualter anyway so what's the point applying. :shh
So you and a few others are questioning the integrity of the people selection panel in particular Benny Gale then? Because that's what you are basically suggesting All good- only people who believe they can achieve greatness need apply. Whatever the reason Carr decided to remove himself from the process is a win for the Club as we cant waste time on tire kickers. :shh
Agree
No point in wasting people's time
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Yep.
He probably the nudge nudge from port, but he probably knows we will hire mcqualter anyway so what's the point applying. :shh
So you and a few others are questioning the integrity of the people selection panel in particular Benny Gale then? Because that's what you are basically suggesting All good- only people who believe they can achieve greatness need apply. Whatever the reason Carr decided to remove himself from the process is a win for the Club as we cant waste time on tire kickers. :shh
Agree
No point in wasting people's time
the standards have certainly dropped at our club, so yes. Lets see shall we.
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Yep.
He probably the nudge nudge from port, but he probably knows we will hire mcqualter anyway so what's the point applying. :shh
So you and a few others are questioning the integrity of the people selection panel in particular Benny Gale then? Because that's what you are basically suggesting All good- only people who believe they can achieve greatness need apply. Whatever the reason Carr decided to remove himself from the process is a win for the Club as we cant waste time on tire kickers. :shh
Agree
No point in wasting people's time
the standards have certainly dropped at our club, so yes. Lets see shall we.
What standards in your eyes have we dropped?
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the standards have certainly dropped at our club, so yes. Lets see shall we.
See that's the issue here.
If McQualter gets the job based on him bring the best candidate you won't believe it and you will bag him, the club unmercifully
Clearly the Club cannot win here
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Newy shortlisted now too. Hopefully we can add a few with no ties to Richmond lol
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Newy shortlisted now too.
JFC :facepalm
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the standards have certainly dropped at our club, so yes. Lets see shall we.
See that's the issue here.
If McQualter gets the job based on him bring the best candidate you won't believe it and you will bag him, the club unmercifully
Clearly the Club cannot win here
No WP, the club can't win here. But just think of the 'I told you so' value to be gained for some ...
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I don’t mind the idea of newy. Would have learned a bit from Sam Mitchell too
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Newy shortlisted now too.
JFC :facepalm
Given he’s been involved in such successful eras both on and off field I completely see why ::)
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Bulletproof or bust? Why Tigers shouldn't be afraid of an untried coach
By Nathan Schmook
afl.com.au
13 August 2023
RICHMOND should not be reluctant to replace its triple-premiership coach with the right untried assistant, according to former senior coach Brenton Sanderson, given the calibre and experience of potential first-time applicants.
Stability in key roles around Damien Hardwick's eventual replacement will be crucial, however, to make sure the Tigers' next coach has the best chance at emulating his predecessor.
Interim senior coach Andrew McQualter and Port Adelaide senior assistant Josh Carr had been viewed as frontrunners for the position, although AFL.com.au reported on Saturday that Carr had pulled out of the race and will instead stay at the Power.
While Carr has withdrawn, there remains a long list of assistants available with "bulletproof" CVs that have been built over more than a decade.
Sanderson, who coached Adelaide between 2012 and 2014 as a first-time coach, experienced early success when he led the Crows to a preliminary final in his first season as a 38-year-old.
He also endured instability thereafter, however, which ultimately contributed to his tenure ending after three seasons.
Now a respected analyst of the game, the 209-game Geelong defender said the right scenario at Richmond would lend itself to a first-time applicant having a successful career as senior coach.
"There should be no apprehension at all if the selection committee find someone who they think is the perfect fit, despite them being a first-time coach. I think they should go for it," Sanderson told AFL.com.au.
"I think there are some great young coaches and first-time coaches out there who all have great experience in the game.
"While they may not have coached an AFL club before, in my opinion that shouldn't in any way be seen as a negative.
"Every great senior coach has had to start somewhere as a first-time coach, whether it's Kevin Sheedy, Damien Hardwick or Alastair Clarkson.
"You learn the hard way … and their clubs have invested in them, kept faith, and they've gone on to become premiership coaches."
As well as Carr and McQualter, the AFL's next group of rising assistants includes Troy Chaplin (Melbourne), Daniel Giansiracusa (Essendon), Jaymie Graham (Fremantle), Ash Hansen (Carlton), Steven King (Gold Coast), Chris Newman (Hawthorn), Hayden Skipworth (Collingwood) and Adem Yze (Melbourne).
Troy Chaplin addresses his players during Melbourne's clash with Richmond in round 20, 2023. Picture: AFL Photos
Sanderson said the work that assistant coaches now do to build their credentials put them in the best possible position to succeed.
"I only coached for five years as an assistant before I became an AFL coach, but I just thought at the time that I was ready," Sanderson, who started with Port Adelaide under Mark Williams before joining Mark Thompson's panel at Geelong, said.
"I think every coach would say they were well prepared and ready if they were offered a role, despite their experience.
"But there are coaches now doing short courses at Harvard, sports courses overseas, and getting mentored by some absolute greats of the game.
"They're looking to build a CV that is almost bulletproof before they put their hand up to go for a role."
Reflecting on his own experience, Sanderson said the keys for a first-time senior coach were stability and alignment with the board and football manager, an ability to appoint some assistant coaches straight away, and a shared vision with the strength and conditioning and recruiting/list departments.
"The first year is normally pretty good, because they are all the people who helped you get the role," the 49-year-old said.
"But it's when there is instability in other areas of the club, whether that's the footy department, sports science, if the board changes, or you have a new director of footy.
"When those roles change outside your control, and if you don't see eye to eye or there are clashes, that just provides enormous challenges for a coach who is learning his way."
Sanderson was able to recruit a trusted lieutenant in former Geelong defender Darren Milburn when he was appointed, as well as ex-Port Adelaide colleague Dean Bailey, whose own tenure at Melbourne had just finished.
However, Bailey tragically lost his battle with cancer in 2014, while the Crows made changes to their head of football and chief executive roles in the same year before a review of the club's football operations.
There were also changes to the Adelaide board and different views on the club's direction, with Sanderson and the Crows parting ways in September 2014, despite the coach having two seasons to run on a contract.
Sanderson was replaced by Phil Walsh, who was tragically killed halfway through his first season in charge in 2015.
In the nine years since Sanderson departed, there have been 15 coaches appointed to their first senior jobs by AFL clubs, with seven of them still in place.
A further five – Chris Scott, Ken Hinkley, John Longmire, Adam Simpson and Luke Beveridge – were appointed to their roles before the end of 2014 and remain at that same club, having shared five premierships.
For Sanderson, there is a lesson in the stability those coaches have enjoyed at different stages of their coaching careers that will be crucial for the next group of first-time applicants.
"I think that's where you look at a strong footy program and a strong club [that knows] if you invest in someone and you make a decision that this is going to be our long-term senior coach, then keep investing in them and keep backing them in," Sanderson said.
"Have the hard conversations if you feel like they are losing focus of the club values and their own values.
"But ultimately the clubs that keep investing in their senior coach and keep putting really good people around them are ultimately the ones who have the most success long term."
https://www.afl.com.au/news/1004536/bulletproof-or-bust-why-richmond-tigers-shouldnt-be-afraid-of-an-untried-coach
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I got no issues with Gale or Balme there top administrators. But don't come and tell me standards haven't dropped in our football department since our success bigtime.
Conditioning and fitness department a mess.
Recruiting and drafting selling the farm for Hooper, an example
Development has regressed bigtime see Cumberland, Sonsie and Rioli.
Staff who have left have not been replaced with the same quality.
All I can say in 2017 when we invested in our football department it had a big outcomes.
As for Mini your kidding me his Dimma clone loyal to senior players the kids take the rapt , failing to get us to play 4 quarters of footy , lack of intensity and tactics let Bont run the show last week.
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Someone else
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Like sitting on the bench makes a difference.
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What is this selling the farm for hopper business that I keep reading? We gave up pick 31 and a future first round. The future first round doesn’t look great in hindsight but I don’t think many expected us to finish bottom 6ish. You’ve also got to consider that even though they were done separately technically it was pretty much a combined deal for both the gws boys and I think the general consensus is the Taranto deal looks like great business. In any case I don’t see how 2 picks can be considered “selling the farm”. People making it out like we gave up the number of picks west coast did for tim kelly.
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Anybody who can restore our confidence and work on the skills side of the game. That's where we are falling down the most. Kicks and handballs just seem to miss targets all the time. Footballs out early in the preseason.
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So much for saying you want to lift standards.
Our work rate has gone backwards and this should be a non negotiable.
Our work off the ball is not existent. Considering how we were able to build a premiership dynasty by playing a high pressure high work rate high tackling game it’s a wonder why we continue to persist with players that aren’t prepared to keep up that standard.
We are a shadow of our former selves.
Our team is either has too many soft types or we are just not fit enough or maybe both are true.
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Mini is not the guy. Can't get us up for our last 2 games when our season and his job is on the line.
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What is this selling the farm for hopper business that I keep reading? We gave up pick 31 and a future first round. The future first round doesn’t look great in hindsight but I don’t think many expected us to finish bottom 6ish. You’ve also got to consider that even though they were done separately technically it was pretty much a combined deal for both the gws boys and I think the general consensus is the Taranto deal looks like great business. In any case I don’t see how 2 picks can be considered “selling the farm”. People making it out like we gave up the number of picks west coast did for tim kelly.
I got no issue with Taranto. but pick 6 and 31 we got our 👖 pulled down.
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What is this selling the farm for hopper business that I keep reading? We gave up pick 31 and a future first round. The future first round doesn’t look great in hindsight but I don’t think many expected us to finish bottom 6ish. You’ve also got to consider that even though they were done separately technically it was pretty much a combined deal for both the gws boys and I think the general consensus is the Taranto deal looks like great business. In any case I don’t see how 2 picks can be considered “selling the farm”. People making it out like we gave up the number of picks west coast did for tim kelly.
I got no issue with Taranto. but pick 6 and 31 we got our 👖 pulled down.
But pick 6 was not known. It was a future first which I’m sure the club anticipated would fall closer to around pick 12.
Also like I said, I don’t think you can judge the Taranto and the hopper deal separately. They were both grabbed from the same club.
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Who said this wasn't a list around 12th spot? You, Dimma and where is he now?
Gone.
Anyone who thought this was a premiership list when we selected those blokes (esp Hopper) is living in La la land.
We got reamed to the point I don't even think GWS put any lube on the deal. Hopper was MIA last year for the giants as well, yet knowing this we still coughed up a top 10 pick on a declining list.
That selection is the same stupidity that hawks tried with winguard, Mitchell, vickery and has set them back. It may be 8-10 years between finals appearances for them, and a lot of that is as a result of making stupid decisions.
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What is this selling the farm for hopper business that I keep reading? We gave up pick 31 and a future first round. The future first round doesn’t look great in hindsight but I don’t think many expected us to finish bottom 6ish. You’ve also got to consider that even though they were done separately technically it was pretty much a combined deal for both the gws boys and I think the general consensus is the Taranto deal looks like great business. In any case I don’t see how 2 picks can be considered “selling the farm”. People making it out like we gave up the number of picks west coast did for tim kelly.
The future first rounder is such a mental thing. I mean if we ended up finishing 8th and losing a final.. the pick was pick 10. Which for Hopper is probably fair. That'll end up being the difference between knocking the draw against Calton and the loss against Essendon as the difference between.
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Newman may be the man for the job.
I think he may be the one they want.
Ex captain, great guy. Served his apprenticeship
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After a good start, each week is a big step in the direction of change. A new coach with fresh ideas and a new approach especially when we have decisions on players like McIntosh and Pickett. Interesting times ahead.
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Mini won't get the job now. The players can't say they love the bloke and then dish up the listless and non-competitive garbage we've seen over the past two weeks.
I got no issues with Gale or Balme there top administrators. But don't come and tell me standards haven't dropped in our football department since our success bigtime.
Conditioning and fitness department a mess.
Recruiting and drafting selling the farm for Hooper, an example
Development has regressed bigtime see Cumberland, Sonsie and Rioli.[/b]
Staff who have left have not been replaced with the same quality.
All I can say in 2017 when we invested in our football department it had a big outcomes.
As for Mini your kidding me his Dimma clone loyal to senior players the kids take the rapt , failing to get us to play 4 quarters of footy , lack of intensity and tactics let Bont run the show last week.
Of the bold, one is linked to the others IMO. When we made those trade deals, we weren't counting on our preseason being a total mess with double digit numbers of players in rehab and so many entering the year with interrupted preseasons. Then add Lynch, Gibcus and Tarrant who played almost all of last year and basically none of this year.
We were clearly hoping the 22 of last year kept the same output going into this year with Taranto and Hopper adding to our midfield depth. Problem is everything else around those trades has gone wrong or backwards at a rapid knot. For example, our wings which were better than most last year with Kmac and Pickett's 2022 form are a liability now. Too much robbing Peter to pay Paul playing players out of position to cover our forward line problems and exacerbated by odd team selections all year (playing two slow rucks at Marvel the latest stuff up). I agree georgies, there's been a drop in standards across the footy dept. and it's not just the senior coach that needs replacing and refreshing.
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I got no issues with Gale or Balme there top administrators. But don't come and tell me standards haven't dropped in our football department since our success bigtime.
Conditioning and fitness department a mess.
Recruiting and drafting selling the farm for Hooper, an example
Development has regressed bigtime see Cumberland, Sonsie and Rioli.
Staff who have left have not been replaced with the same quality.
All I can say in 2017 when we invested in our football department it had a big outcomes.
As for Mini your kidding me his Dimma clone loyal to senior players the kids take the rapt , failing to get us to play 4 quarters of footy , lack of intensity and tactics let Bont run the show last week.
I am not disputing standards have drooped you just need to watch training to see that.
But those soft cap cuts have cruelled us. So much coin tied up in one person has cost us the last 2 years.
Not having the courage to appoint a sole captain has cost us more than some realise
Tough calls need to be made on certain players and I've got no doubt that now the season is officially shot we will see that, probably next week.
The best person will get the job. I just hope that whoever it is people give fair go. Sadly I reckon if it's McQualter that won't happen.
And just to be clear I'm not saying he is all I'm saying if he's determined to best the best bloke to take us forward then he should be supported
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Highly rated duo won't pursue Tigers job, ex-skipper on shortlist
By Callum Twomey
afl.com.au
13 August 2023
HIGHLY rated assistants Jaymie Graham and Troy Chaplin will not pursue the Richmond coaching vacancy as the Tigers continue the next steps of their process.
AFL.com.au revealed on Saturday that one of the major contenders for the job, Port Adelaide assistant Josh Carr, had withdrawn from the Richmond process and will remain at Alberton Oval.
The Tigers' process has seen those interested in the role apply for the position, a different approach than some of the other recent coach searches undertaken by clubs, with Richmond shortlisting a handful of leading candidates last week.
Stand-in coach Andrew McQualter confirmed during his media conference on Saturday he was among them, while Hawthorn assistant coach and former Richmond captain Chris Newman is also in that group.
Fremantle assistant Graham was one of the final candidates for the Collingwood vacancy won by Craig McRae in 2021, but has not applied and taken part in the Richmond process.
The former West Coast big man has been an experienced assistant coach, having started in development with St Kilda in 2012 before re-joining the Eagles as a member of their coaching panel and then crossing to the Dockers.
Graham is considered a future senior coach and has been steering the Dockers' forward line, working with young forward pair Jye Amiss and Josh Treacy.
Melbourne assistant Chaplin was named the AFL Coaches Association assistant coach of the year in 2022, with the former Port Adelaide and Richmond defender considered a coach on the rise.
The Demons' backline coach was in control of the defence during the club's breakthrough premiership season in 2021 but is not going through the Tigers' coaching process as they seek a replacement for Damien Hardwick.
Experience in coaching a team previously at a high level, as Carr had done with North Adelaide in the SANFL, is expected to be a factor in the Tigers' search.
Newman (who has coached Box Hill), Essendon's Daniel Giansiracusa and Carlton's Ash Hansen (who both coached Footscray VFL) and Collingwood's Hayden Skipworth (who coached Essendon's VFL side) are among the candidates with that experience, with McQualter and current Suns interim coach Steven King also having that area ticked off with their AFL stints in the second half of this season.
https://www.afl.com.au/news/1008513/highly-rated-duo-won-t-pursue-tigers-job-ex-skipper-on-shortlist
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I got no issues with Gale or Balme there top administrators. But don't come and tell me standards haven't dropped in our football department since our success bigtime.
Conditioning and fitness department a mess.
Recruiting and drafting selling the farm for Hooper, an example
Development has regressed bigtime see Cumberland, Sonsie and Rioli.
Staff who have left have not been replaced with the same quality.
All I can say in 2017 when we invested in our football department it had a big outcomes.
As for Mini your kidding me his Dimma clone loyal to senior players the kids take the rapt , failing to get us to play 4 quarters of footy , lack of intensity and tactics let Bont run the show last week.
I am not disputing standards have drooped you just need to watch training to see that.
But those soft cap cuts have cruelled us. So much coin tied up in one person has cost us the last 2 years.
Not having the courage to appoint a sole captain has cost us more than some realise
Tough calls need to be made on certain players and I've got no doubt that now the season is officially shot we will see that, probably next week.
The best person will get the job. I just hope that whoever it is people give fair go. Sadly I reckon if it's McQualter that won't happen.
And just to be clear I'm not saying he is all I'm saying if he's determined to best the best bloke to take us forward then he should be supported
So the standards have dropped but you back the club in to make the right decision?
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So the standards have dropped but you back the club in to make the right decision?
Yep, you don't? I have faith in the people on the panel
first time in 14 odd years we've needed to appoint a new coach.
New coach will IMV will immediately lift standards.
I'm backing the Club in on this appointment
This has been a wasted season.
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So the standards have dropped but you back the club in to make the right decision?
Yep, you don't? I have faith in the people on the panel
first time in 14 odd years we've needed to appoint a new coach.
New coach will IMV will immediately lift standards.
I'm backing the Club in on this appointment
This has been a wasted season.
I do back them in but maybe only because I don’t have a choice. For me it’s all about the list decision, that will be the true sign of moving in the right direction
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https://www.instagram.com/p/Cv3_XvfA3ky/?igshid=MzRlODBiNWFlZA==
:lol
I'd love to know what a sinking ship feels like then Lynchy if this is a steadied one.
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It will be interesting, we need a strong development coach and the recruiting of some diamonds in the rough for the new coach to mould
A few leaders at the club with football player backgrounds I would back to get it right with our new coach
Might be some More pain coming in the next couple of years if I’m not mistaken
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Mini might be doing an amazing job, but can he reshape our game to a level which can compete.
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Who said this wasn't a list around 12th spot? You, Dimma and where is he now?
Gone.
Anyone who thought this was a premiership list when we selected those blokes (esp Hopper) is living in La la land.
We got reamed to the point I don't even think GWS put any lube on the deal. Hopper was MIA last year for the giants as well, yet knowing this we still coughed up a top 10 pick on a declining list.
That selection is the same stupidity that hawks tried with winguard, Mitchell, vickery and has set them back. It may be 8-10 years between finals appearances for them, and a lot of that is as a result of making stupid decisions.
There’s a big difference between winning the premiership and finishing 12th, specifically 11 spots. Given we finished 7th (I think) last season, I don’t blame them for thinking we would do better adding in TT and Hopper. The lynch injury absolutely killed our season which in its own right is an indictment on the club that we rely so heavily on 1 player
Anyway as someone else mentioned, you can’t make an informed judgement on a 7 year deal on the results of 1 season.
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Who said this wasn't a list around 12th spot? You, Dimma and where is he now?
Gone.
Anyone who thought this was a premiership list when we selected those blokes (esp Hopper) is living in La la land.
We got reamed to the point I don't even think GWS put any lube on the deal. Hopper was MIA last year for the giants as well, yet knowing this we still coughed up a top 10 pick on a declining list.
That selection is the same stupidity that hawks tried with winguard, Mitchell, vickery and has set them back. It may be 8-10 years between finals appearances for them, and a lot of that is as a result of making stupid decisions.
There’s a big difference between winning the premiership and finishing 12th, specifically 11 spots. Given we finished 7th (I think) last season, I don’t blame them for thinking we would do better adding in TT and Hopper. The lynch injury absolutely killed our season which in its own right is an indictment on the club that we rely so heavily on 1 player
Anyway as someone else mentioned, you can’t make an informed judgement on a 7 year deal on the results of 1 season.
I do. we finished 7th and lost in an elimination final with an ageing list. Dusty wasnt the same player either. It was absolutely stupid to think we could go around again, and that level of stupidity is playing out before our eyes. Dual captains, Dimma leaving a sinking ship, caretaker coach doing a great job at staring at walls. We are bereft of serious talent at the moment and our decision making has been woeful.
Hopper was selected for a tilt at another flag. That aint happening and so is it still a good deal with the way we are now 12 months on. I dont think so and i wonder how many here would take that pick back if they are being serious.
yet knowing all this some people still thought HH would be a good get at the age 28 next year. A dumb decision like that would set us back again
This year will be our best finish in the next 3 seasons min. A long road can be longer if we keep going down that road.
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I got no issues with Gale or Balme there top administrators. But don't come and tell me standards haven't dropped in our football department since our success bigtime.
Conditioning and fitness department a mess.
Recruiting and drafting selling the farm for Hooper, an example
Development has regressed bigtime see Cumberland, Sonsie and Rioli.
Staff who have left have not been replaced with the same quality.
All I can say in 2017 when we invested in our football department it had a big outcomes.
As for Mini your kidding me his Dimma clone loyal to senior players the kids take the rapt , failing to get us to play 4 quarters of footy , lack of intensity and tactics let Bont run the show last week.
I am not disputing standards have drooped you just need to watch training to see that.
But those soft cap cuts have cruelled us. So much coin tied up in one person has cost us the last 2 years.
Not having the courage to appoint a sole captain has cost us more than some realise
Tough calls need to be made on certain players and I've got no doubt that now the season is officially shot we will see that, probably next week.
The best person will get the job. I just hope that whoever it is people give fair go. Sadly I reckon if it's McQualter that won't happen.
And just to be clear I'm not saying he is all I'm saying if he's determined to best the best bloke to take us forward then he should be supported
What have you seen in training mate that's a tell sign ?.
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I do back them in but maybe only because I don’t have a choice. For me it’s all about the list decision, that will be the true sign of moving in the right direction
Fair call but I think you are giving a coach any coach for that matter far ar too much credit and or input into overall list management decision. The coach is one voice
But certainly get your point
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What have you seen in training mate that's a tell sign ?.
Doing drills, not nailing them and letting it go rather than calling them back and making them do it again until they got it right. Little things escalate into big things
Back in 2017 through to 2019 (and I assume 2020) this didn't happen.
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last dynastys
lethal - tough
dimma- tough
clarko - tough
sheeds- tough
mini weak as pee based on what we have seen and in his playing career. His last 2 weeks of decisions has been amateur hour. Staring at space on the bench was about as bad as ive seen someone who apparently wants the job.
PASS - find someone else RFC
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Who said this wasn't a list around 12th spot? You, Dimma and where is he now?
Gone.
Anyone who thought this was a premiership list when we selected those blokes (esp Hopper) is living in La la land.
We got reamed to the point I don't even think GWS put any lube on the deal. Hopper was MIA last year for the giants as well, yet knowing this we still coughed up a top 10 pick on a declining list.
That selection is the same stupidity that hawks tried with winguard, Mitchell, vickery and has set them back. It may be 8-10 years between finals appearances for them, and a lot of that is as a result of making stupid decisions.
There’s a big difference between winning the premiership and finishing 12th, specifically 11 spots. Given we finished 7th (I think) last season, I don’t blame them for thinking we would do better adding in TT and Hopper. The lynch injury absolutely killed our season which in its own right is an indictment on the club that we rely so heavily on 1 player
Anyway as someone else mentioned, you can’t make an informed judgement on a 7 year deal on the results of 1 season.
I do. we finished 7th and lost in an elimination final with an ageing list. Dusty wasnt the same player either. It was absolutely stupid to think we could go around again, and that level of stupidity is playing out before our eyes. Dual captains, Dimma leaving a sinking ship, caretaker coach doing a great job at staring at walls. We are bereft of serious talent at the moment and our decision making has been woeful.
Hopper was selected for a tilt at another flag. That aint happening and so is it still a good deal with the way we are now 12 months on. I dont think so and i wonder how many here would take that pick back if they are being serious.
yet knowing all this some people still thought HH would be a good get at the age 28 next year. A dumb decision like that would set us back again
This year will be our best finish in the next 3 seasons min. A long road can be longer if we keep going down that road.
So if hopper comes out next season and is All Australian and wins our best and fairest, is it still a failure? How about if whoever gws use the hopper pick on, ends up playing 10 games in 4 years and is then delisted? There is still way too many variables at play imo to consider it a success or a failure, same thing applies to TT.
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The best person will get the job. I just hope that whoever it is people give fair go. Sadly I reckon if it's McQualter that won't happen.
If he coaches like he has the last two weeks he'll deserve every bit of the criticism that comes hid way and then some,. Not to mention the idiotic team selections - as will the club for the appointment because like us they saw the evidence beforehand. :shh
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TIGERS RACE HEATS UP
David Zita, Ben Cotton and Ben Waterworth
Foxsports
14 August 2023
Tigers CEO Brendon Gale has been adamant the club wants to find “the next Damien Hardwick” and the selection panel appears keen on those who have coached their own team at some level in the past - much like Craig McRae did for Richmond’s VFL side before his appointment as Collingwood coach.
McQualter clearly fits that description, as do the likes of Hayden Skipworth at Collingwood, Chris Newman at Hawthorn, Steven King at Gold Coast and Daniel Giansiracusa at Essendon.
Plenty of figures in the AFL industry can vouch for the calibre of those vying for the job.
Western Bulldogs games record holder Brad Johnson spent much of his playing career alongside Giansiracusa and vouched for the Essendon assistant coach.
“He’s been through the process a couple of times just for experience more than anything, just to understand how it all works,” Johnson said on Fox Footy.
“He’s coached his own team, he’s ready to go.
“Out of all these guys here, he stacks up really highly amongst those. He would be a great appointment and one that would be able to take a club forward.
“He’s got that serious approach, no question, but he can also bring the group in and have a bit of fun. The great mix that Gia would bring would be outstanding for any footy club.”
That mix will be a crucial factor in the Tigers’ search, with emotional intelligence ranking high on the club’s criteria.
Such a focus makes sense. After all, it was Hardwick’s willingness to embrace vulnerability and imperfection - also led by then-skipper Trent Cotchin - that saw a struggling side turn into one of the modern era’s most fearsome powerhouses.
The next phase of the Richmond coaching search will begin this week and is expected to end by grand final day.
It will mark a fascinating process that coincides with eight clubs’ fight for the premiership.
https://www.foxsports.com.au/afl/afl-news-2023-round-22-talking-points-analysis-reaction-results-wrap-highlights-carlton-finals-chances-richmond-next-coach-collingwood-problems/news-story/7819259bb1fa82a1c150e5b5f410e0a6
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Stupid that the next Dimma whoever gets it let them be there own man.
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What have you seen in training mate that's a tell sign ?.
Doing drills, not nailing them and letting it go rather than calling them back and making them do it again until they got it right. Little things escalate into big things
Back in 2017 through to 2019 (and I assume 2020) this didn't happen.
Shades of 2016
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Mini may go on to become a great senior coach, I don’t think any of us can rule that out based on half a seasons sample size where he’s really had no choice but to follow the same gameplan and strategy as Dimma. It’s not something that you can just up and change dramatically half way through the year. But I’ve been of the opinion that since Dimma left, we would be much better served having a coach with no previous ties to the old regime and playing group who can come in and implement his own style and not have any pre-existing relationships that may cloud his judgement. That would obviously rule mini out and I’m not sure newy would fit the bill either given he still would have played with a few of the players and under Dimma however if he impresses the selection panel enough to be offered the job then so be it. I just hope another 3 or so candidates are added to the shortlist who have no ties to Richmond whatsoever.
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Also not sure what the contract statuses are of the assistant coaches and whether this is viable from a soft cap perspective but I’d be looking to refresh the assistant coaching group as much as possible. Again just need a new group with fresh ideas and strategies that can build a team with the new coach.
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RICHMOND OPTS FOR UNIQUE PROCESS TO SELECT NEXT HEAD COACH
Seb Mottram
SEN
14 August 2023
The Richmond Football Club isn’t taking the path often trod to secure its next senior coach.
The race to be Richmond’s next full-time coach is as wide open as it’s been all season given the drop-off from Andrew McQualter’s side in the last fortnight.
An announcement by September had been expected, although it’s looking less likely midway through August.
SEN’s Chief Sports Reporter Sam Edmund offered an update on the club’s process.
“Richmond, they’ve gone about this search for a new coach a different way to most other clubs,” he began on SEN's Sportsday.
“Most rivals draw up a shortlist of contenders and then contact them, inviting them to be part of the process. The Tigers have effectively advertised the position.
“You can’t exactly put it on Seek and you can’t exactly put it in the paper, but what they did do was put out a document to trusted people in the footy industry to put the position effectively out to tender.
“I’m told they did contact some would-be coaches themselves, but there was also an element of advertising the position, which is relatively unique.”
“Richmond, they’re not broken, they’re a stable, well-run club, they know what success looks like, they didn’t sack their coach… but they’ve gone about it a slightly different way to other clubs.”
Edmund added: “(It could be that) people who they thought weren’t interested who came up and were that (Richmond) hadn’t otherwise considered.”
On the record, McQualter revealed on Saturday that the process has progressed to a point where the Tigers now have a shortlist.
“It's progressed and I got some information yesterday that I had been shortlisted for the job so for the next stage we'll figure out where it goes from there,” he told a press conference.
However, as AFL Media’s Cal Twomey first reported, highly-rated Port Adelaide assistant Josh Carr – who was among the leading contenders for the job – has withdrawn from the process.
The Tigers have previously indicated a preference to install a first-time coach.
https://www.sen.com.au/news/2023/08/14/richmond-opts-for-unique-process-to-select-next-head-coach/
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I have herd Yze mate the shortlist to his got the most impressive cv at hawks for there flags and dees now.His Godwin right hand man highly rated.
The coaching appointment is super important, but so is the people we surround around him as I think the footy department needs a revamp.Recruitment team , fitness and conditioning , assistant coaches etc that plays a big part.
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Is it true Carr no longer interested?
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Is it true Carr no longer interested?
Yes
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I really don’t see what all the fuss is about with Carr. What AFL system has he been in which has seen premiership success?
None.
If he wants to stay in that pee pot of a town then i wish him well and look forward to smacking his butt in years to come.
This is not just about the coach but all the list managers and the broader coaching panel.
It is true that it needs an overhaul.
That doesn’t necessarily impact Mini. Like Dimma 7 years ago, he needs the right support around him and that starts with Benny, Tim Livingstone and some expertise in strength and conditioning.
This culture won us 3 flags, it might seem it but we aren’t completely broken.
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I really don’t see what all the fuss is about with Carr. What AFL system has he been in which has seen premiership success?
None.
If he wants to stay in that pee pot of a town then i wish him well and look forward to smacking his butt in years to come.
This is not just about the coach but all the list managers and the broader coaching panel.
It is true that it needs an overhaul.
That doesn’t necessarily impact Mini. Like Dimma 7 years ago, he needs the right support around him and that starts with Benny, Tim Livingstone and some expertise in strength and conditioning.
This culture won us 3 flags, it might seem it but we aren’t completely broken.
:clapping :clapping
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What have you seen in training mate that's a tell sign ?.
Doing drills, not nailing them and letting it go rather than calling them back and making them do it again until they got it right. Little things escalate into big things.
Back in 2017 through to 2019 (and I assume 2020) this didn't happen.
So true. Mediocrity is an unseen cancer and it will destroy a club from the inside out.
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Revealed: What the Tigers are asking for in their next coach
Jake Niall
The Age
August 15, 2023
The job description document that Richmond sent out to candidates for the senior coaching position contains words not traditionally associated with AFL coaches, nor with a combative macho game that has been a playground for Alpha males.
In the document, which this masthead has seen, the Tigers tell the candidates they want requisite football expertise and nous, the ability to deliver a game plan and clear communication to “all stakeholders.” The coach must be “fiercely competitive” and possess “relentless energy and resilience.”
Those traits are standard for successful footy coaches over the past 50 years, from Tommy Hafey and Kevin Sheedy, to Damien Hardwick and Alastair Clarkson. Nothing novel there.
But the words that are used under the heading “skills and capabilities” show how AFL football – and modern management culture – have been transformed, and also reflect how the Tigers themselves had shifted to a more holistic outlook after a painful review in the failed 2016 season.
The skills Richmond want aren’t simply knowing footy and implementing a game plan. They specify that the next coach should possess “emotional intelligence competencies of self-awareness, self-management, social awareness and empathy.”
He must have a “deep understanding and experience of managing wellbeing, psychological safety, person-first approaches to coaching and development of others.”
Further, the wish list includes a “growth mindset, personal willingness to learn, adapt and change.” Flexibility is held up as one of five “key competencies,” – “flexibility and adaptability in own leadership style and thinking style.”
And the coach has to champion a multicultural and diverse club. This is number six under key responsibilities: “Actively champion diversity (including gender, Indigenous and multicultural) to ensure people engage and belong.”
AFL clubs would not have highlighted terms like “psychological safety” or “self-awareness” in coaching searches even 15 years ago, when it would have been seen as touchy-feely.
In the key responsibilities section, number 4 says the coach should “drive a purpose driven, strengths-based and caring culture that is a source of strength and differentiation.”
Again, amid the standard tough coach stuff, there’s a counter-balance of a “caring culture” and a suggestion that this culture will set the Tigers apart.
So, in seeking a coach, Richmond are holding up a modern model of leadership. The coach of 2024 will be knowledgeable, resilient and as “fiercely competitive” as winning coaches of yesteryear, but the apparent point of difference – to both the past and others - will be in qualities that we don’t usually attach to authoritarian coaches.
There’s no room for a “my way or the highway” mindset in the job description. Richmond aren’t seeking a command and control coach who dominates the club utterly.
It’s arguable that these supposedly “soft” or even feminised traits – care, empathy, self-awareness, collaboration (also specified in the job description), flexibility – are actually intrinsic to modern successful coaches and good managers in any field, but that clubs either didn’t make this explicit or didn’t recognise them as important.
Richmond, clearly, is a club that has been influenced heavily by women in leadership roles, especially Peggy O’Neal, as the first AFL female club president. The Tigers’ current vice-president Henriette Rothschild, who has management consulting pedigree (now with KordaMentha) had a hand in devising the document and was used as an external expert in 2009 when Richmond hired Brendon Gale as CEO.
One question that this document implicitly poses is whether the Tigers are simply following a modern management system – which could apply to nearly any corporate or government leadership role – or if their wish list is based heavily on the experiences gleaned during Hardwick’s 13-and-a-half years of struggle and triumph.
A senior Richmond source, speaking on the condition of anonymity because the process is confidential, said the Tigers reckon that the profile of the coach they want has been influenced significantly by what’s happened in the Hardwick years, when the club placed great store in players and staff expressing “vulnerability” and telling life stories to each other.
Mindfulness training was also adopted in that crucial period from the failed 2016 into the breakthrough flag of 2017.
It is taken for granted by the Tigers that the senior coach will be “fiercely competitive” – still prioritised as number one of the five “key competencies” – and that he will carry a hard edge and willingness to make and carry difficult calls. They are a tough club in a tough caper. That hasn’t changed.
The other key to understanding what Richmond wants in Hardwick’s replacement is that the club is anything but broken. Whereas senior coaching jobs often coincide with prolonged failure or dysfunction within the club, the Tigers view themselves as a strong, united club who don’t need a radical reinvention. The senior staff driving the appointment – Gale, football bosses Blair Hartley and Tim Livingstone – have been fixtures during Hardwick’s reign.
Andrew McQualter, as caretaker, will be a serious candidate, while the likes of Daniel Giansiracusa (Essendon) and Chris Newman have their hands up and Ash Hansen (Carlton), Troy Chaplin (Melbourne), Hayden Skipworth (Collingwood, ex-Essendon) could be in the frame, especially if coaching a team in state leagues is preferred by the Tigers.
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THE PROFILE OF A RICHMOND FOOTBALL CLUB SENIOR COACH
What we're looking for:
Knowledge and experience
* Deep experience with AFL specific coaching, technical and tactical approaches, and a proven track record.
* A breadth of knowledge and understanding of player development and driving performance within a team-first framework.
* Deep understanding of high-performance cultures that underpin exceptional performance.
Skills and capabilities
* Engaging and connecting with a wide range of diverse stakeholders to deliver clear, consistent communication and messaging.
* Emotional intelligence competencies of self-awareness, self-management, social awareness and empathy.
* Deep understanding and experience of managing wellbeing, psychological safety, person-first approaches to coaching and development of others.
* Growth mindset, personal willingness to learn, adapt and change
Key competencies
* Fiercely competitive.
* Self-aware.
* Unique impact and influence.
* Relentless energy and resilience.
* Flexibility and adaptability in own leadership style and thinking style.
https://www.theage.com.au/sport/afl/revealed-what-the-tigers-are-asking-for-in-their-next-coach-20230814-p5dwdq.html
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The document sounds like a work of art.
Does such a coach even exist??
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The document sounds like a work of art.
Does such a coach even exist??
Yep & he'll coaching the Suns next year.
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Yep, there's no doubt that our next coach is important & should look something like what is outlined in that list.
But there's something equally important that the RFC has to do over the next month or so - they have to retain either Jack Reiwoldt or Trent Cotchin at the club in an off field role. Both, if possible, Dusty can join them too if he wishes.
Why? Because those two/three are our playing culture. They are our living culture & we need to make sure that we keep this culture at the club or it just wont matter who we appoint as coach, or president, or CEO or even boot studder. :gotigers
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Agree with you JP. However I also think Messers Gale and Balme are of equal if not more importance to that culture continuing and changing if need be
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I do wonder what Newman is like as a coach. Had great success at vfl level ( like mcrae ) worked under sam mitchell in recent times who i think is earning great respect across the league. Also hawthorn think they are developing a game style for the future, not for the now, which newman has probably had a bit to do with. Interesting times and i think Mini could very well be the best option available but its hard to know how much to read into this season. No doubt he wouldnt have changed anything major mid season so I'd love to know how he would plan to progress the club going forward.
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Really like Mini, but there is something that just sits with me that we need a totally fresh voice.
I have been convinced the Mini would get the job, dont think the last two games will have much impact on the overall decision. We have had such a terrible record there over recent years so its somewhat consistent.
Newman and possibly if Chaplin have the insight and some connection to being a Richmond man, one thing Dimma was certain of when he spoke a month or so ago was that it would be an internal appointment.
Just really keep thinking we need some change of mindset to a degree and our gameplan needs to evolve with the times.
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Newman as coach with Grigg & Chaplin as assistants.
Bounce Teague & Rutten, new direction.
Mini to coach the VFL team. Needs to coach his own team.
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If the last 2 weeks hasn't been a eye opener for club and fans nothing will be. We aren't even doing the basics in footy and that's effort and intensity totally switched off. Add to that poor team selection and questionable tactics. Mini is not the solution fullstop.
As for Newman my concern is he was part of our poor culture and losing one. Is he going to make the tuff calls and allowed to be his own coach that worries me.
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FORMER TIGERS CAPTAIN, HAWKS ASSISTANT ENDORSED FOR TOP RICHMOND JOB BY OLD COACH
Andrew Slevison
SEN
15 August 2023
Terry Wallace has given a glowing endorsement of Chris Newman as Richmond’s next senior coach.
The former Tigers captain is one of several candidates the club is believed to be looking at as they continue the search for Damien Hardwick’s successor.
Newman is currently an assistant under Sam Mitchell at Hawthorn having overseen success with the Box Hill Hawks by winning the 2018 VFL premiership.
Wallace coached Newman at the Tigers between 2005 and 2009, installing him as captain in his final year as coach.
He is the type of person that Richmond may be looking at, according to ‘Plough’.
“It seems pretty clear that they’re wanting to go for a first-time (coach) to develop and grow with the group,” Wallace said on SEN’s Dwayne’s World.
“As ‘Dimma’ (Hardwick) did the last time around. All those boys were 19-20 at the most when Dimma arrived so he could grow with them.
“I think that’s exactly what they’re looking for again. One era is over and the other is about to start.
“If it is that way, I’m a little bit biased because I ended up making Chris Newman captain when I was at the club.
“I’d love to see Chris get his opportunity. He’s a fantastic footy person and I’d love to see him get his chance.
“I think it looks like it will go down that way from everything that we hear.
“Daniel Giansiracusa is another one that I drafted in the system with the Bulldogs so I’d love to see him get an opportunity as well.
“But that’s in their (Richmond’s) court. We’ll all sit back and wait and see how it plays out.”
Wallace outlined some of the key Newman attributes that will help him make the transition from Hawks assistant to a senior role elsewhere.
He referenced the fact that retiring Richmond star Jack Riewoldt spoke of Newman’s 250-game milestone as one of the highlights of his career.
“He’s a strong personality, I still think there’s a bit of that needed,” he added.
“You need to have empathy with the players. I coached with Craig McRae so I’ve seen his journey and how fantastic he’s been. He is that empathetic type person.
“On the same side I think Chris is a man’s man, he’s done the hard yards, he’s seen good times as well. I think he’s a really balanced individual from that point of view.
“I like that in somebody who is going to be a leader. He was the obvious leader. In Jack’s press conference he marked out his greatest moment, apart from winning the premierships, was winning in Chris’ milestone game.
“That’s how much of an impact he had on Jack as a leader. I see him as a leader of men. I think the opportunity will come, whether it’s this time around or not, who knows?”
Newman is one of several candidates for the Richmond job which is currently held by interim coach Andrew McQualter.
Other names on the list include Fremantle assistant Jaymie Graham, Melbourne assistant (and former Tigers defender) Troy Chaplin, his fellow Demons coach Adem Yze, Essendon assistant Daniel Giansiracusa and Collingwood’s Hayden Skipworth.
https://www.sen.com.au/news/2023/08/15/former-tigers-captain-hawks-assistant-endorsed-for-top-richmond-job-by-old/
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Real question is when can it be Kane Lambert
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Real question is when can it be Kane Lambert
Next VFL coach. :shh
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Discount Grigg.
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Real question is when can it be Kane Lambert
Next VFL coach. :shh
We can only hope
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Inside Tigers race that could shape next dynasty as every contender broken down
David Zita
Fox Sports
August 16th, 2023
Richmond’s coaching search has been narrowed down to a shortlist, with a decision on Damien Hardwick’s successor to be made before the season is out.
Caretaker coach Andrew McQualter is an obvious contender given his interim coaching stint that is still ongoing, with his journey having become well-known over the last three months as he has made his play at the top job.
Other contenders’ journeys are less public to this point, but their names will be firmly in the mix as they sit down for follow-up interviews in the coming days.
Chris Newman is among those to be short-listed and his name would be well known to Richmond faithful, given his 268-game playing career at the club that ended at the close of 2015.
His move to Hawthorn was virtually instant, joining the club near the close of October as a development coach.
Newman’s impact was immediate at Waverley, with some observing early on he had all the attributes of a senior coach in waiting.
Like other candidates on the shortlist, Newman’s strength has been in relationship-building and team bonding.
Those close to Newman have noted his ability to open up on his own vulnerabilities and empower players to do similar has helped build stronger bonds between teammates at the Hawks.
That process would ring true at Tigerland, given a similar process led to the club’s premiership dynasty.
Candidates have been asked to have a proven track record and Newman’s stint at the helm of Box Hill could help him make a strong case.
Box Hill finished 10th in 2016, but his first season at the helm resulted in a second-place finish and preliminary final berth, with Newman named VFL Coach of the Year.
The following season saw Newman coach the side to a VFL premiership, becoming the first-ever side in the league to win a flag from outside the top four.
His time as an assistant coach has seen him play a significant part in the careers of some emerging players, Mitch Lewis, Dylan Moore and Changkuoth Jiath to name a few.
Newman can strike a fine balance between being direct as a line coach but also employing more delicate approaches where necessary.
He has also worked under Alastair Clarkson and now Sam Mitchell, two considerably talented coaches, with Mitchell rapidly building a resumé of his own.
Working alongside those with an ingrained understanding of the game is also applicable to Hayden Skipworth - another name in the mix.
The Collingwood assistant forms part of a brain trust that has worked wonders for the Pies, led by Craig McRae and made up of the likes of Justin Leppitsch and Brendan Bolton.
Skipworth played 55 senior games for Adelaide and Essendon before retiring in 2009, but has forged an even more impressive career as a coach, having led Essendon’s VFL side during his tenure at the Bombers.
He moved across to Collingwood in 2020, with former coach Nathan Buckley and football boss Geoff Walsh rating him highly.
Walsh recalled Skipworth’s promise when speaking to foxfooty.com.au this week.
“He straightaway impressed me as someone with a bit of integrity and prepared to do the hard yards, which he has,” Walsh said.
“He had a number of roles with us at Collingwood.
“He’s very good with the players. A lot of the assistant coaches are, that’s their bread and butter, they form relationships. But he was very good at forming relationships.”
Skipworth’s time with Buckley has been followed up by his tenure with McRae, who like Mitchell at Hawthorn has rapidly become one of the prime faces of modern coaching.
Like many at the AIA Centre, Skipworth has embraced a growth mindset, completing a renowned Harvard leadership course.
Those who have dealt with Skipworth have noted his interpersonal skills and empathy.
Walsh said that was balanced with an ability to have input on game day.
“The thing I was quite impressed with, he was always willing in the box - and I always judge that, how willing are they to speak up in the box, are they just yes men - he had that style where he’d be respectful but not frightened to offer his own opinion,” Walsh said.
“He was confident in his own ability but not in a disrespectful way.
“He’s an intelligent person. They’re well aware they’ve got to bring their own vulnerability to show to their playing group as much as helping those who are vulnerable themselves. I think he falls into that category.”
Like McQualter, Steven King has the benefit of having coached an AFL side in some fashion, with King’s stint at the helm of Gold Coast to have reached seven games by the time the season is over.
Figures at the Suns have noted King’s tireless work ethic and willingness to be flexible and adaptable with his approach to his time in the job.
His understanding of the game is sound, with his stoppage game a particular strength, which could benefit a side in Richmond that has in the past struggled to thrive in that area despite its on-field success.
King has improved in his short time at the helm and has shown an ability to use motivational tools where needed, taking like a duck to water to the added responsibility.
There are then the more commonly known names of Daniel Giansiracusa and Ash Hansen, who have built impressive resumés in their own right.
Giansiracusa and Hansen’s coaching journeys have been somewhat intertwined.
Both worked alongside each other as coaches at the Dogs and had stints at the helm of the VFL side, with Hansen coaching the side to the VFL premiership in 2016 as Luke Beveridge did the same for the AFL side.
Another similarity is both having completed the Level Four coaching program.
Both have significant coaching experience and both have been in the mix for senior coaching vacancies in the past.
Giansiracusa has coached across all lines and was voted the AFL Coaches Association’s assistant coach of the year in 2020, while Hansen currently heads Carlton’s forwards and offence and has a keen understanding of the game.
Western Bulldogs games-record holder Brad Johnson said on Fox Footy last week he could easily see his former teammate becoming a senior coach.
“He’s been through the process a couple of times just for experience more than anything, just to understand how it all works,” he said.
“He’s coached his own team, he’s ready to go.
“Out of all these guys here, he stacks up really highly among those. He would be a great appointment and one that would be able to take a club forward.
“He’s got that serious approach, no question, but he can also bring the group in and have a bit of fun. The great mix that Gia would bring would be outstanding for any footy club.”
The pathway has been narrowed significantly after the first round of applications have been whittled down, but there are still selection headaches of sorts for the Richmond panel to work through over the next few weeks, extending even beyond the names above.
Its ultimate decision will shape the club for years to come, as Hardwick’s appointment did at the close of 2009.
https://www.foxsports.com.au/afl/teams/richmond-tigers/afl-2023-next-richmond-coach-shortlist-contenders-for-job-damien-hardwick-replacement-andrew-mcqualter-latest/news-story/f34fcd9f3a7451793cbf45a5557b3200
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I think Adam Simpson would be a good fit.
I am less concerned with his recent win/loss as their list management, strength and conditioning make ours look world class.
I am a bit worried at his match day - how does a side push Bombers to a goal and then get smashed at home in a Derby?
Gut says that noone can fix that right now.
He is measured, been to the top (and back which all coaches state is compulsory to learn the most) and frankly a club like the Tigers would be a godsend for him after the last 3 years.
It won’t happen - I know this / but we should look past the superficial analysis of his past 3 seasons and consider the broader club dynamics while also pointing to his first 7 years where he had a great impact on the playing group.
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Re Adam Simpson not longer after he took overt they beat us at the MCG by 20 points on a Friday night (think they called it a web defensive system) and I remember thinking this game plan was fantastic.
We basically just couldn't score ot get it past half forward.
Don't think we would even look at this but you never know.
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From RSN:
Senior Richmond advisor Neil Balme has provided the latest into the club's search for a new head coach.
While murmurs have begun to swirl as to who Richmond is looking toward, Balme has noted the club doesn't listen to external suggestions, but is keeping its finger on the pulse.
"You've got to have that connection with people to find out what they think of people that you might consider," Balme told RSN on Thursday morning.
"Andrew (McQualter) is telling a good story for himself. He's had a lovely connection with the players. The last couple of weeks we might not be seeing the results we would've liked, but that's not all down to him.
"It's a great opportunity for a club to go into (the process), appoint a new coach and appoint someone who is going to show us the way.
"We will certainly consider who else is available and make the decision that's best for the club."
Balme hasn't ruled out the club's chances of hiring an experienced mentor as their next senior coach, with the Tigers to appoint the candidate who can buy into the club's direction and cultural while knowing the game.
"There's an argument for both (experience and a fresh voice), depending on where you are," Balme said.
"This club is in a pretty strong position culturally, I don't think it would matter one way or the other. As long as they buy in to what you are doing. They've got to know the game and people.
"Whether they're an experienced coach or not probably doesn't matter nowadays. Once, the senior needed to know everything about footy. Now they've got four to five assistant coaches who do the job together. It's about managing their intellect as well.
"We'll put all that down and sort out what type of person we need and what sort of job they need to do."
https://www.zerohanger.com/another-coaching-candidate-out-of-richmond-race-as-tigers-advisor-provides-latest-141288/
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Scratch Hayden Skipworth’s name off of potential applicants for vacant Tigers job.
Was asked to apply but chose not to pursue. Happy at Pies under Craig McRae.
https://twitter.com/_AMcCormack7/status/1691739078855962626
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Damian Barrett tells Footy Classified Chris Newman has started canvassing people linked to Richmond and in football ahead of his interview for the Tigers' coaching position.
WATCH HERE: https://twitter.com/FootyonNine/status/1691794801086116211
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WHY HAWKS COACH IS NERVOUS ABOUT LOSING RICHMOND TARGET NEWMAN
Andrew Slevison
SEN
18 August 2023
Hawthorn’s Sam Mitchell would be open to helping assistant coach Chris Newman land a senior gig.
The former Richmond captain is being heavily linked with the coaching job at the Tigers, gaining favouritism since Josh Carr opted out of the process.
Newman has been with the Hawks since 2016, guiding Box Hill to a premiership in 2018, before stepping into an assistant AFL role ahead of the 2019 season.
Mitchell was asked by David King if he is nervous about losing Newman with the Hawks coach providing a very entertaining yet balanced answer.
“A little bit, actually,” Mitchell replied on SEN Breakfast.
“My media boss sends me articles that he thinks that I should read before I come on to a show like this.
“I said to ‘Newy’ yesterday, ‘if I have to read one more article about you and Richmond, mate… I already know that you barrack for Richmond’. He still calls all the (Richmond) boys by their nicknames and all those things. He gets plenty of ribbing from our coaches in here.
“But he’s a fantastic coach. He’s a really good friend of mine, so I’ve spoken to him about it as a friend first and coach second. So if I can help him in his endeavours to get a senior coaching job, then my friendship with him will override the loyalty for him to do his job for me at the Hawks.”
Is Mitchell expecting to lose Newman?
“I actually have no idea, I’d have less idea than you guys in there about what process they are up to and what they’re looking for,” he added.
Newman is among several candidates for the Richmond role which was vacated by Damien Hardwick in May and is currently held by interim coach Andrew McQualter.
Other names in the mix include Fremantle’s Jaymie Graham, Melbourne pair Troy Chaplin and Adem Yze, Essendon’s Daniel Giansiracusa and Collingwood’s Hayden Skipworth.
https://www.sen.com.au/news/2023/08/17/why-hawks-coach-is-nervous-about-losing-richmond-target-newman/
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Tigers assistant shortlisted for senior job
By Josh Gabelich
afl.com.au
19 August 2023
RICHMOND assistant coach Xavier Clarke has emerged as another candidate in the hunt for the senior coaching vacancy at Punt Road.
The 39-year-old is understood be set to go through the process after being shortlisted to interview for the role.
The Tigers are in the process of replacing triple premiership coach Damien Hardwick and are conducting a different search compared to other recent coaching processes, with interested applicants applying for the position before progressing.
Caretaker coach Andrew McQualter has been shortlisted for the role, while AFL.com.au revealed former Richmond captain and current Hawthorn assistant coach Chris Newman is also in the process, but Port Adelaide assistant Josh Carr has opted to remain at Alberton.
Interviews are expected to take place in the next week or two.
Clarke has a wealth of experience at the highest level and is highly regarded inside the Swinburne Centre, where the club's decision to shortlist him is affirmation for his decade of coaching experience and growing status in the industry.
The Northern Territorian played 105 games for St Kilda after being selected with pick No.5 in the 2001 AFL Draft and added one more appearance for Brisbane, but was plagued by injuries at Moorabbin where he tore his ACL for the first time before doing it again at the Lions.
After retiring at the end of 2011, Clarke was appointed the AFL's Indigenous co-ordinator at AFL House, working in a strategic role that aimed to help Indigenous players transitioning out of the game.
Clarke had minimal coaching experience when he applied for and won the coaching gig at the NT Thunder ahead of the 2014 season, but was named coach of the year in his first season in the NEAFL and became a premiership coach in his second, after leading a side that many in the industry believed at the time was the hardest state league coaching gig, to the ultimate prize.
At the end of a challenging season for Richmond in 2016, Clarke joined the Tigers as a development coach and has been part of the football department across the past seven seasons.
In that time, Clarke's ambition to be a senior coach has grown to the point where has now put his hat in the ring for the first time, following time as the VFL coach and now the role as forwards coach.
Richmond announced a six-person panel in July to lead the search following Hardwick's shock resignation in May, with CEO Brendon Gale, GMs Tim Livingstone and Blair Hartley joined by vice-president Henriette Rothschild on the panel.
Melbourne Storm football manager Frank Ponissi and Football Australia performance director Paddy Steinfort are the external administrators included in the sub-committee to find the next coach of the Tigers.
Experience at coaching a team at state league level is understood to be appealing to Richmond, which is why Carr was admired internally for his exploits leading North Adelaide to the SANFL flag back in 2018.
Clarke is one of only a few Indigenous coaches at AFL level, alongside Neville Jetta at Collingwood and Travis Varcoe at the Western Bulldogs.
There have only been two senior Indigenous coaches – Graham Farmer and Barry Cable – in VFL/AFL history, with Clarke aspiring to be the next one, whether it is at Richmond or down the track.
https://www.afl.com.au/news/1010435/richmond-tigers-assistant-xavier-clarke-shortlisted-for-senior-job
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ooh dear,
Im hoping this is just to please the yes vote camp for equality purposes.
As a VFl coach he was as bad as Morris.
Hard NO.
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No from me, agree with fj
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Gale said the club was looking to appoint Hardwick’s senior coach replacement around the grand final to allow the new mentor to oversee any trading or drafting in October.
Interim coach Andrew McQualter is on the club’s shortlist, with the likes of former captain Chris Newman and rising Collingwood assistant Hayden Skipworth alongside him.
Source: Brendon Gale on ABC radio today. (https://www.codesports.com.au/afl/afl-news-2023-damien-hardwick-speaks-on-the-vacant-gold-coast-coaching-job/news-story/02367a0ca893e4c668f588ebfee17754)
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I thought skipworth pulled out of the running.
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I thought skipworth pulled out of the running.
According to 7news' Andrew McCormack he has.
Scratch Hayden Skipworth’s name off of potential applicants for vacant Tigers job.
Was asked to apply but chose not to pursue. Happy at Pies under Craig McRae.
https://twitter.com/_AMcCormack7/status/1691739078855962626
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ooh dear,
Im hoping this is just to please the yes vote camp for equality purposes.
As a VFl coach he was as bad as Morris.
Hard NO.
Curious to know what your thoughts were on fly and Kingsley were before they left and took on senior jobs? I’m not saying it was you specifically but I would certainly say the general consensus on here for fly and especially Kingsley were that they were bang avg. Fly I think people were critical because we lost the 2017 gf, choked in straight sets in 2018 after finishing top before finally winning in 2019 although we barely scrapped through as the oppo (I think it was port Melbourne?) missed numerous gettable shots to win the game late. Kingsley I think people grew tired of us constantly losing the clearances even when we were winning premierships and then got angry when he said he would take a senior coaching position anywhere while he was still our assistant.
What I’m trying to get at is that, while I don’t necessarily disagree with you (moreso because I think we’ll be much better off with a fresh face in the coaches box), I think it’s very difficult to come to any conclusions about an assistants suitability for a senior coaching position as Kingsley and especially fly have shown.
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No from me, agree with fj
Same question to you Andy.
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ooh dear,
Im hoping this is just to please the yes vote camp for equality purposes.
As a VFl coach he was as bad as Morris.
Hard NO.
Curious to know what your thoughts were on fly and Kingsley were before they left and took on senior jobs? I’m not saying it was you specifically but I would certainly say the general consensus on here for fly and especially Kingsley were that they were bang avg. Fly I think people were critical because we lost the 2017 gf, choked in straight sets in 2018 after finishing top before finally winning in 2019 although we barely scrapped through as the oppo (I think it was port Melbourne?) missed numerous gettable shots to win the game late. Kingsley I think people grew tired of us constantly losing the clearances even when we were winning premierships and then got angry when he said he would take a senior coaching position anywhere while he was still our assistant.
What I’m trying to get at is that, while I don’t necessarily disagree with you (moreso because I think we’ll be much better off with a fresh face in the coaches box), I think it’s very difficult to come to any conclusions about an assistants suitability for a senior coaching position as Kingsley and especially fly have shown.
I thought their time had come to an end at the RFC, especially Kingsley. I thought he looked desperate to leave so stuff off then. I absolutely believe this.
By the way what has he proven? He sill has the keys to the Ferrari doesn't he?
Let's compare fly though. Joins RFc end of 2016. VFL Grand final first year and a flag in his 3rd.
Was part of a winning culture as well.
Clarke Morris no thanks. Had chances and did sfa with it
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No from me, agree with fj
Same question to you Andy.
Fly I thought was OK. Kingsley has surprised me.
Clarke haven't ever really felt he's all that good since coaching VFL
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Adam Yze?
What’s happened to him?
No to X.Clarke
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Whoever it is, and no one is banging down the door to me, needs to be good at developing our list because we will have a young list in the next 2 to 3 years and if the recruiters can nail some early Picks when we get some instead of proving the world that we one day pick a smaller back flankers whose an A grader
Hats off they have got a fair share of rookies and late picks right
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For me it doesnt matter who we interview they all most likely come with very good resumes.
I just think we have had success looking with in and doing our own thing. Time has come to start looking outside our 4 walls to get back up to speed.
Within or with out id be happy with a coach who is at least honest about where the list is at and how long it will likely take to get back challenging again.
If the bad old days taught us anything no freakin spiel and no short cuts just to finish 9th or scrape into the 8.
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Chris Newman officially declares interest in Richmond coaching job
Chris Newman says he’d love to coach Richmond.
While he remained tight-lipped about the “process” at the Tigers, Newman said it was “no secret” he had put himself in the running to coach the club he played 268 games for.
LISTEN HERE: https://www.3aw.com.au/chris-newman-officially-declares-interest-in-richmond-coaching-job/
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“No secret”: Ex-Tiger skipper puts hand up for Richmond job
The former rebounder is one of three names expected to go through the club’s process.
zerohanger.com
August 20, 2023
Former Richmond captain Chris Newman has publically thrown his hand up for the vacant coaching role at Tigerland, stating that his desire to get back to Punt Road has been "no secret".
Newman spent the entirety of his 14-year AFL career in yellow and black, racking up 268 games and leading the club between 2009 and 2012, and since hanging up the boots at the end of 2015, the 41-year-old has called Hawthorn home, leading the club's VFL affiliate Box Hill, as well as guiding development at Bunjil Bagora.
Yet, after nearly eight seasons outside of Richmond's four walls, Newman revealed to 3AW on Sunday afternoon that it was his aim to take over from his former coach Damien Hardwick on a full-time basis.
"I would," Newman answered when asked about whether he would like the Tigers' job.
"Obviously, it's no secret I wanted to put my hand up to coach Rochmond, and I'll get that opportunity now (due to the club's hiring process).
"Progressively, that's been my aim throughout my coaching career.
"I've got some experience in not only coaching my own team at Box Hill, but going through various lines and learning off some really good coaches."
While Newman was happy to speak openly on his desires, the 2017 VFL Coach of the Year would not speak publicly about the club's processes.
"I don't want to talk about process yet ... out of respect to the process and Richmond," Newman added. "I'll let them reveal that."
Still contracted at the Hawks and playing a key role in guiding Sam Mitchell's young group, Newman has a home should the Tigers look elsewhere for their 39th senior coach, a fact Mitchell himself made abundantly clear during the week.
Newman is expected to pitch for the role alongside current Richmond employees, and former St Kilda teammates, Xavier Clarke and caretaker coach Andrew McQualter.
Richmond's six-person panel is expected to ramp up its hunt across the course of the next fortnight.
https://www.zerohanger.com/no-secret-ex-tiger-skipper-puts-hand-up-for-richmond-job-141441/
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RIVAL ASSISTANTS IN THE MIX AS RICHMOND WHITTLES COACHING SEARCH TO A HANDFUL
Tom Morris
SEN
22 August 2023
Richmond has whittled its search for a permanent senior coach down to a handful of candidates.
SEN.com.au has confirmed Melbourne assistant Adem Yze is in the mix, as is Essendon midfield coach Daniel Giansiracusa.
They join Chris Newman (Hawthorn), Andrew McQualter (Richmond) and Xavier Clarke (Richmond) as the prime candidates to take over on a full-time basis.
Newman and McQualter are seen as the two early frontrunners before interviews commence, though Yze and Giansiracusa are both highly regarded as well and were approached by the Tigers.
As reported by Josh Gabelich for AFL Media, Clarke has been shortlisted and is held in high esteem at Punt Road, but is seen as less likely.
Yze was pipped at the post for two jobs last year, finishing a narrow second behind Adam Kingsley at GWS and Brad Scott at Essendon.
In both processes he impressed the selection panels, but ultimately missed out.
The Bombers interview process was particularly in-depth and long, with Scott the standout.
By comparison, the Tigers have told candidates to be ready for a 45-minute presentation and roughly the same time for questions.
Richmond is intending to make an appointment either just before or just after the AFL Grand Final.
Yze is the only one of these coaches who is involved in finals with his current club.
Yze, a Melbourne life member, is highly regarded at the Demons, where he looks after the on-ballers and has been Simon Goodwin's primary tactician behind the scenes since he arrived in late 2020.
Giansiracusa, who is contracted until the end of 2025, is similarly rated at the Bombers, though he has one thing Yze does not: Experience coaching his own VFL team at Footscray in 2019 and 2020, though the latter season was cancelled due to the pandemic.
It's understood Newman was invited to be part of retirement celebrations for Jack Riewoldt and Trent Cotchin, but politely declined the opportunity to be among many former teammates at the MCG on Saturday.
Newman, who coached his own VFL team, did not want the optics of sitting with Brendon Gale while he was deep in the process to be the club's next coach.
Cotchin and Riewoldt had been asked which former teammates they would like at the game.
Some of the ex-Tigers who attended were Chris Knights, Nathan Foley, Shaun Hampson, Shane Edwards, Jake King, Shaun Grigg, Matt Thomas, Adam Pattison, Taylor Hunt, Bachar Houli (on crutches), Dave Astbury, and Matthew Richardson.
Josh Carr (Port Adelaide) and Justin Leppitsch (Collingwood) declined to be part of the Richmond process.
Meanwhile, Brendon Lade (Western Bulldogs) confirmed to SEN's Crunch Time show on Sunday that he had been initially approached but is no longer in the running to be Richmond's next senior coach.
The Tigers have made no secret of their desire to search for "the next Damien Hardwick".
While they would reportedly prefer a coach who has taken charge of his own team (like McQualter, Giansiracusa and Newman have), their invitation to Yze indicates they don't see it as a decisive factor.
SHORTLISTED CANDIDATES
Chris Newman (Hawthorn)
Andrew McQualter (Richmond)
Xavier Clarke (Richmond)
Adem Yze (Melbourne)
Daniel Giansiracusa (Essendon)
https://www.sen.com.au/news/2023/08/22/rival-assistants-in-the-mix-as-richmond-whittles-coaching-search-to-a/
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Yze out of that lot. :shh
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Yze out of that lot. :shh
Only if he still wears his glove on match day.
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Yze out of that lot. :shh
Yep. By all accounts, has a touch of the Blake Caracella’s about him.
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Yze out of that lot. :shh
Yep. By all accounts, has a touch of the Blake Caracella’s about him.
And wtf is that lol
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Newman
Yze
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Daylight
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Mini.
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Daylight
Jeff Gieshan
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Daylight
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Giansiracusa
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Yze out of that lot. :shh
Yep. By all accounts, has a touch of the Blake Caracella’s about him.
And wtf is that lol
Very good tactically. Soft ex footballer :lol
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Newman
Yze
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Daylight
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Mini.
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Daylight
Jeff Gieshan
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Daylight
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Giansiracusa
Where is Wallace??
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Newman
Yze
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Daylight
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Mini.
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Daylight
Jeff Gieshan
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Daylight
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Giansiracusa
Where is Wallace??
He's in the daylight working on his tan
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Yze for me to he was a nice medium forward to alot of class.
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Steven King says he hasn't considered the vacant Richmond coaching job and is excited about learning under new Gold Coast coach Damien Hardwick next season.
https://www.afl.com.au/news/1016016/king-has-no-eyes-on-the-tigers-ahead-of-final-game-in-charge
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RICHMOND APPROACHES MELBOURNE ASSISTANT OVER VACANT COACHING POSITION
Seb Mottram
SEN
24 August 2023
Adem Yze is the first name publicly in the mix to be Richmond’s next senior coach, with Melbourne confirming multiple reports on Thursday.
Alan Richardson, in charge of the Demons’ footy department, revealed he has fielded a call from Tigers footy boss Tim Livingstone about Yze joining the coaching search.
It follows a report from SEN’s Tom Morris that stated Yze, Chris Newman (Hawthorn), Andrew McQualter (Richmond), Daniel Giansiracusa (Essendon) and Xavier Clarke (Richmond) are the leading contenders and will go through the process.
Yze was just last year in the running for the senior coaching job at GWS and Essendon and narrowly missed out. But he’s set to go around again a season later.
“Tim Livingstone gave me a call to have a chat about Yze, and my understanding is he’s in the mix and we’ll go through that process and we’re incredibly supportive of that,” Richardson told SEN’s Dwayne’s World.
“The only deal that we’ve had to make with him that if he is successful then we would want him to continue with us all the way through and hopefully we go late into the finals campaign and he’s a big part of that and then he would go with our blessing, we’d be incredibly proud if that was to happen.
“He’s a quality person and a quality coach, so we’re supportive of that.”
The process will no doubt be complicated by Melbourne’s impending run towards a flag, with a top four finish to guarantee they’ll be present until at least mid-September.
Morris reports Richmond wants to appoint its new coach either just before or soon after the Grand Final on September 30.
But that’s of no concern to Melbourne or Richardson, who is confident Yze will see out his responsibilities at the Demons regardless.
“He’s actually done it a couple of times, so we’ve got some experience of his ability to be able to continue at doing his role and be really elite at what he does for us whilst potentially going through the process. He’s done that before and he’s been really good at it,” Richardson added.
Yze has been at Melbourne since late 2020 and is regarded as Melbourne’s primary tactician throughout the club’s brilliant run in recent seasons.
Josh Carr (Port Adelaide) and Justin Leppitsch (Collingwood) are two who have reportedly ruled themselves out of becoming Richmond’s next coach.
Earlier this month, SEN Chief Sports Reporter Sam Edmund revealed the Tigers had employed a different type of search to find its next coach, with the position made available to application for some in the industry.
https://www.sen.com.au/news/2023/08/24/demons-confirm-approach-from-richmond-to-assistant-for-senior-coach-search/
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Mini said he has his interview next week.
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Interesting that Matthew Knights not in the mix
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Interesting that Matthew Knights not in the mix
Maybe the Essendum experience burnt him too badly.
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Mini said he has his interview next week.
Hopefully it’s an exit interview
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Interesting that Matthew Knights not in the mix
Knights wanted the coaching job when dimma got it . When they chose Dimma, knights cracked it
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We can comfortably cross Gia off the list. Essendon are a shambles, don't touch anything tarnished with their filth.
Newman, Mini or Yze.
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McQualter said he would turn his attention to preparing for his interview with club officials after this week’s season-ending clash with Port Adelaide.
McQualter is one of a small pool of candidates including Melbourne assistant coach Adem Yze, and former Richmond captain Chris Newman, for the coaching role.
He said the final round performance would have no bearing on his chances.
“It’s important for the team, but it’s not important for me, at all,” he said
“I’ve said this all along. Our job here is to coach players to be competitive and win games of football. The group is driven .. .to bring the energy.”
Source: Foxsports (https://www.foxsports.com.au/afl/teams/richmond-tigers/richmond-remain-confident-dustin-martin-wont-leave-for-the-gold-coast-suns/news-story/7dfeb9cfcd5d8410b012ef71d964b3c7).
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We can comfortably cross Gia off the list. Essendon are a shambles, don't touch anything tarnished with their filth.
Newman, Mini or Yze.
Yep, it seems to be narrowing by the day.
The sad reality is whoever gets the gig is more likely to be the overseer of our rebuild rather than the next coach to achieve success with us. Unless we get some significant out of the blue internal improvement from a number of our existing cubs, we are going to have to take a step or two back before going forward.
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I am happy to sit back and wait before judging the potential of the team.
There’s been a few clubs written off before (including us) which have literally jumped out of the ground the following year.
The biggest issue I see is that list management seems out of whack with gameplan. That was what we fixed in the off season of 2016 and it’s why I think we need someone completely new.
The right game plan for the current talent and with the support of the leadership in place I think we can make ground again fairly quickly.
Interesting that we approached Yze to apply for the role.
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I agree with MT, there might be a few that will surprise us , but we are a victims of our own success , the lower the pick the less likely that pick will be a good player.
The new coach might need to start the rebuild / development whether they like it or not ,
I hope we don’t just top up with rejects which is recipe for 9th for the next 30 years
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I agree with MT, there might be a few that will surprise us , but we are a victims of our own success , the lower the pick the less likely that pick will be a good player.
The new coach might need to start the rebuild / development whether they like it or not ,
I hope we don’t just top up with rejects which is recipe for 9th for the next 30 years
I'd actually argue that over the last 10 years we've been better with our later picks than we have with early ones
We certainly seem to nail the rookie picks ;D
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You may, as our latter picks have given better results for the majority of our early picks, but the odds are your more likely to get a better player the earlier the pick,
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Agree with WP our ability to develop the workhorses has been excellent. It's our first rounders who have failed to come on.
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That’s what I said ,it’s not the latter picks it’s the early that we are not getting right but the odds say we should, whys that?
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Anyone watch GWS tonight? There pressure is immense and manic.
Goes to show what a new coach can do.
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In fairness GWS should be miles better. Full credit but they've under achieved since 2019 enormously.
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Should be undefeated with the the talent they have. :shh
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From the SEN website:
If a fresh face was named for the vacant role, McQualter admitted that such a decision may lead him out the door at Punt Road.
“It’s probably something I’ll have to weigh up, which I think is understandable after such a long tenure,” he said.
“And particularly if a new coach came in, I’m not sure if they’d want me around to be honest.
“We’ll just get there when we get there and make those decisions as they come along.”
Source: SEN (https://www.sen.com.au/news/2023/08/27/no-intention-of-leaving-tigers-interim-coach-mcqualter-talks-down-prestia/).
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His not the man for us simple as that.
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- Adem Yze will be interviewed by Richmond this week.
https://twitter.com/tommorris32/status/1695940701769580636
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Clarke!
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I actually think Recruiting and list management have been poor for a fair while.
Yes i get all the excuses trotted out, we have had high finishes we have had largely kept players we want but it stops there.
As for rookie picks and getting them right agree. But in the main rookie picks are a way to get some decent footsoldiers into the club. Most rookies are not kids and as such if we are taking them as mature players they had damn well better be able to make a contribution.
That to a large degree is what we have got. You are never ever going to build a premiership list with late nd and rookie picks.Your basically looking for players who can make a contribution nothing more.
Imo we have already delayed the inevitable of having to rebuild. Our last flag was 2020 and its now three years since.
The state of the list says imo another 5 to 7 years thats just reality.
Hope the club bite the bullet and accept the reality and it only takes the 5 to 7 years or we can do a tiger of old or carlton and so manay numerous other clubs who just were not prepared to confront the reality.
There is just no doubt we just lack top end quality in way too many areas.It will only get worse with vets still to retire and be culled.
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David King says: “I think (Andrew) McQualter had to win (against Port) to be a viable option. I just don’t know if he’s done enough over the last four weeks to stamp himself as a senior coach at Richmond.”
Source: Foxsports (https://www.foxsports.com.au/afl/afl-news-2023-fox-footy-first-crack-experts-review-bottom-10-clubs-premiership-profiles-trade-whispers/news-story/969b667d5f2dc1502adb53f90281cb2c).
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What they need to tweak for next year: Make the right coaching call
Andrew Slevison
SEN
29 August 2023
A mammoth off-season is set to ensue at Richmond.
The era of success is well and truly over now that Hardwick, Cotchin and Riewoldt are gone.
First is making the right appointment with the new head coach, whether that be Andrew McQualter or someone else, and then making the appropriate adjustments with the list.
The majority of Tigers are hoping former club captain Chris Newman is the man to step into the gaping hole left by Hardwick.
The Tigers will hope not to bottom out again but rebuild on the run so they can be in contention again sooner rather later.
It all starts this summer.
Source: SEN (https://www.sen.com.au/news/2023/08/28/overreactions-positives-negatives-and-undroppables-for-all-18-afl-teams-in-24/).
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Am I the only one who is a bit frustrated that it's now nearly September and we haven't even interviewed candidates yet. I appreciate that we don't have another club competing for coaches but I feel we should have a new coach by this week, so we can begin the off season with clarity.
We had ages and hope this is done asap so we can look forward to new era.
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Could it be that one of the applicants is still working to win finals at their current club or maybe they are being very careful to get the right fit or both
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Got feeling Yze is closing in Richo mentioned his being interviewed this week and his basically coaching the dees as Goodwin on bench and his the main man in the box. Great experience at hawks and dees and unlucky last year on 2 jobs. Like his been under Choco to.
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Am I the only one who is a bit frustrated that it's now nearly September and we haven't even interviewed candidates yet. I appreciate that we don't have another club competing for coaches but I feel we should have a new coach by this week, so we can begin the off season with clarity.
We had ages and hope this is done asap so we can look forward to new era.
Absolutely not.
H&A season has only just finshed. As we are looking at untried coach no surprise interviews aren't starting until after the H&A seasons finished when the majority have the time to focus on their presentations. This week is the perfect time with it being the stupid bye round before finals
Got feeling Yze is closing in Richo mentioned his being interviewed this week and his basically coaching the dees as Goodwin on bench and his the main man in the box. Great experience at hawks and dees and unlucky last year on 2 jobs. Like his been under Choco to.
Gut feel or just hoping?
I get the feeling no matter who gets the gig it will be split down the middle as to how folks feel about it
I reckon we all have a preference
As I've said all along I trust those doing the selecting to select the right man for the job and I'll support and back in whoever it is
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Luke Hodge will be our next premiership coach. :shh
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Am I the only one who is a bit frustrated that it's now nearly September and we haven't even interviewed candidates yet. I appreciate that we don't have another club competing for coaches but I feel we should have a new coach by this week, so we can begin the off season with clarity.
We had ages and hope this is done asap so we can look forward to new era.
Absolutely not.
H&A season has only just finshed. As we are looking at untried coach no surprise interviews aren't starting until after the H&A seasons finished when the majority have the time to focus on their presentations. This week is the perfect time with it being the stupid bye round before finals
Got feeling Yze is closing in Richo mentioned his being interviewed this week and his basically coaching the dees as Goodwin on bench and his the main man in the box. Great experience at hawks and dees and unlucky last year on 2 jobs. Like his been under Choco to.
Gut feel or just hoping?
I get the feeling no matter who gets the gig it will be split down the middle as to how folks feel about it
I reckon we all have a preference
As I've said all along I trust those doing the selecting to select the right man for the job and I'll support and back in whoever it is
Just a gut feel and for me the most qualified candidate.
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I agree , when you have people like Gale, Balmy and Hartley etc who are fantastic at what they do , you just have to trust that they know what they are doing.
We the supporters have a passion that wants our club to succeed and thus we have a myriad of opinions , but other than maybe a few ,most of us know jack of what’s going on inside the four walls and really are just not qualified
So let’s sit back enjoy the the theatre of the selection process but trust those overseeing the process
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Lots to still play out.
Keep calm and have a gin. :lol
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Vision, values and style: How clubs headhunt their next coach
https://www.afl.com.au/news/1021407/vision-values-and-style-how-clubs-headhunt-for-their-next-coach
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Tom Browne says the short list is down to four:
Xavier Clarke
Andrew McQualter
Adam Yze
Chris Newman
Essendon's form tailing off towards the end of the season has gone against Giansiracusa.
No front runner. It's an open race.
"Whisper" that Livingstone and Hartley are keen to continue the program with list and football set-up decisions already made rather than a coach coming in and making big changes. Says other people are running Richmond rather than the coach.
Go to 3:15 min mark: https://www.listnr.com/podcasts/triple-m-footy-afl/episodes/tom-brownes-news-trade-latest-on-ratugolea-grundy
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"Whisper" that Livingstone and Hartley are keen to continue the program with list and football set-up decisions already made rather than a coach coming in and making big changes. Says other people are running Richmond rather than the coach.
This is why Mini could not make changes IMO
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Tom Browne ::)
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Tom Browne ::)
Yes thankfully only a month or so left of having to put up with off the mark dribble
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The latest on Richmond coaching candidate who was sounded out by finals clubs
Seb Mottram
SEN
2 September 2023
Xavier Clarke will next week front the biggest job interview of his life as he meets with the panel that will select Richmond’s next coach, his brother has revealed.
The Tigers assistant coach was shortlisted for the role last month and is understood to be among the candidates remaining to replace Damien Hardwick.
Clarke, 39, has experience coaching his own side in the NEAFL and has coached a premiership up north before moving to Richmond.
He ticks all the boxes Richmond are looking for – as do a number of applicants – and Raph Clarke disclosed details of his brother’s push to be the Tigers' next senior coach.
“There’s not too much inside gossip… Xavier doesn’t give much away,” Clarke began on SEN’s Fridays in the Top End.
“But I think he’s got his final interview on Monday or Tuesday. Trying to talk to Xavier when he’s coming home for holidays and he’s got to plan his 40th at the end of the month, he’s like, ‘I haven’t thought about anything else besides this interview’.
“He’s quite lucky he’s had the time at Richmond. All the family are very excited, it’d be amazing if he does get the job.
“His coaching philosophy and style is pretty similar to Adam Kingsley and the likes of that.”
Clarke has been at the Tigers since the end of 2016, starting as the development coach and also transitioning into the VFL role.
He’s now in charge of the forwards.
Raph added that his brother is so highly rated within the industry that two coaches – whose sides are now in the finals – tried to poach Xavier out of Punt Road.
“Kingsley tried to take him up to GWS when he got the job, Ross Lyon offered him a gig at St Kilda at the start of this season as well, so he’s a wanted man in footy circles as well,” he explained.
“Whether Richmond believe that he’s the next guy to take them to finals and be successful again… (I don’t know).”
He added: “After (seven) seasons in the gig to be a wanted man at the top, it’s a big credit to him and his development as coach.”
https://www.sen.com.au/news/2023/09/01/the-latest-on-richmond-coaching-candidate-who-was-sounded-out-by-finals/
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I get brotherly love etc
But my advice to his brother Raph would shut up and let your bro go through the process
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Richmond coaching candidate provides latest on search process
Mitch Keating
zerohanger.com
September 7, 2023 - 5:53pm
Melbourne assistant coach Adem Yze will be waiting by the phone over the coming weeks to hear from Richmond on their coaching search while also balancing a premiership push with the Demons this month.
Yze is among the final few candidates in the running to succeed former Tigers mentor Damien Hardwick at Punt Road, with recent interim coach Andrew McQualter, ex-Richmond captain Chris Newman and Tigers assistant Xavier Clarke said to be among the last four candidates.
The Demons assistant has entered a third coaching search process in two years, having also run for recent vacancies at GWS and Essendon, which saw Adam Kingsley and Brad Scott land senior roles respectively.
Currently in pursuit of a premiership with Melbourne under Simon Goodwin, Yze was able to use the recent pre-finals bye week to hold formal discussions with Richmond's search committee as the Tigers look to come to a final decision and appoint their next senior coach.
The Demons assistant and club great's role in Richmond's search has reached its end, with Yze now playing the waiting game to hear whether he was successful in securing his maiden head coaching role or not.
Yze is expected to be made aware of a decision from the Tigers in "the next couple of weeks", as further interviews and moves take place.
"The week leading into the finals helps. Richmond were terrific, they allowed me to wait for that week," Yze told SEN of the process with the Tigers.
"We had a few days off, so I could put my head into that for a couple of days and sort of really set myself for that meeting and then from there, it just moved on to our final.
"The process is ongoing, but my part of it's been done. I spoke to them last week, they said within the next couple of weeks (a decision will be made). There's no rush with that."
https://www.zerohanger.com/richmond-coaching-candidate-provides-latest-on-search-process-143048/
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Might be bring precious but I'm frustrated this hasn't been finalised.
The idea of getting a coach in asap to get started while every single other coach who isn't playing finals is already planning, etc.
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The way Melbourne are just bombing it high and long into their forward line is putting me off Yze
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If interviews are done should we not get an announcement soon.
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Collingwoods list is no better than ours but look at the effort and pressure. We need a coach who can get the best out of our guys and get back to fundamentals like what flyhas done
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Collingwoods list is no better than ours but look at the effort and pressure. We need a coach who can get the best out of our guys and get back to fundamentals like what flyhas done
Yep and Kingsley at GWS
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A trained monkey should be able to coach GWS to a flag with the vast array of talent they have. :shh
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If interviews are done should we not get an announcement soon.
Who said the interviews are done?
Article says "as further interviews and moves take place" which to me at least suggests they're still interviewing.
If they did the common psych testing they could still be waiting on results
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The latest on Richmond coaching candidate who was sounded out by finals clubs
Seb Mottram
SEN
2 September 2023
Xavier Clarke will next week front the biggest job interview of his life as he meets with the panel that will select Richmond’s next coach, his brother has revealed.
The Tigers assistant coach was shortlisted for the role last month and is understood to be among the candidates remaining to replace Damien Hardwick.
Clarke, 39, has experience coaching his own side in the NEAFL and has coached a premiership up north before moving to Richmond.
He ticks all the boxes Richmond are looking for – as do a number of applicants – and Raph Clarke disclosed details of his brother’s push to be the Tigers' next senior coach.
“There’s not too much inside gossip… Xavier doesn’t give much away,” Clarke began on SEN’s Fridays in the Top End.
“But I think he’s got his final interview on Monday or Tuesday. Trying to talk to Xavier when he’s coming home for holidays and he’s got to plan his 40th at the end of the month, he’s like, ‘I haven’t thought about anything else besides this interview’.
“He’s quite lucky he’s had the time at Richmond. All the family are very excited, it’d be amazing if he does get the job.
“His coaching philosophy and style is pretty similar to Adam Kingsley and the likes of that.”
Clarke has been at the Tigers since the end of 2016, starting as the development coach and also transitioning into the VFL role.
He’s now in charge of the forwards.
Raph added that his brother is so highly rated within the industry that two coaches – whose sides are now in the finals – tried to poach Xavier out of Punt Road.
“Kingsley tried to take him up to GWS when he got the job, Ross Lyon offered him a gig at St Kilda at the start of this season as well, so he’s a wanted man in footy circles as well,” he explained.
“Whether Richmond believe that he’s the next guy to take them to finals and be successful again… (I don’t know).”
He added: “After (seven) seasons in the gig to be a wanted man at the top, it’s a big credit to him and his development as coach.”
https://www.sen.com.au/news/2023/09/01/the-latest-on-richmond-coaching-candidate-who-was-sounded-out-by-finals/
just ticking the diversity box here is the RFC.
Clarke has shown what kind of coach he will be and its far from flattering.
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Appreciate Xavier for what he's done at Tiges but leading our forward group this year has been a mess. Will be staggered if he gets even close.
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If interviews are done should we not get an announcement soon.
Who said the interviews are done?
Article says "as further interviews and moves take place" which to me at least suggests they're still interviewing.
If they did the common psych testing they could still be waiting on results
Just assumption as the other club coaches have been out of contention for a while.
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You mean to tell me this long a process and 2 of our assistant coaches make the final cut lol unheard of. I don't want neither them or Newman.
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You mean to tell me this long a process and 2 of our assistant coaches make the final cut lol unheard of. I don't want neither them or Newman.
Ageee. It's a complete shambles and I think as I have written they are just ticking boxes to please supporters and minority groups hence the X Clarke. Laughable how he is in the mix.
I think they have known who they are choosing all along :shh
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FJ I’m not sure how you make such sweeping statements about coaches being no good when the reality is that fans have very limited insight into this topic, except for maybe senior coaches on exposed win/loss form.
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ive seen enough when he was vfl coach, likewise Morris.
They are both out of their depth and neither will be giving any senior coaching role, especially this one. Teague is another one who can go. These blokes have been charge of various areas and have failed.
Complete wipe out of most assistants is what is required, and get Grigg and poach Hodge to replace them.
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ive seen enough when he was vfl coach, likewise Morris.
They are both out of their depth and neither will be giving any senior coaching role, especially this one. Teague is another one who can go. These blokes have been charge of various areas and have failed.
Complete wipe out of most assistants is what is required, and get Grigg and poach Hodge to replace them.
Does Hodge have any ambitions to coach?
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I trust Benny and Balme , but 2 of or own assistant's making g the final cut is laughable. Mini had half season showed very little while Clarke is no way near it. I just hop this not the reason so many candidates dropped out.
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How does anyone know Clarke is no where near it.
I guess it's very risky to find out on the run, but we don't really know
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I like how the club is doing this, no leaks, all guess work by the media nuffies.
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How does anyone know Clarke is no where near it.
I guess it's very risky to find out on the run, but we don't really know
They don’t know, they just pretend they do.
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ive seen enough when he was vfl coach, likewise Morris.
They are both out of their depth and neither will be giving any senior coaching role, especially this one. Teague is another one who can go. These blokes have been charge of various areas and have failed.
Complete wipe out of most assistants is what is required, and get Grigg and poach Hodge to replace them.
Does Hodge have any ambitions to coach?
I see people talking about hodge a lot here. Correct me if I’m
Wrong but he has done no coaching and hasn’t expressed the desire to coach at all. Where the stuff is this coming from
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ive seen enough when he was vfl coach, likewise Morris.
They are both out of their depth and neither will be giving any senior coaching role, especially this one. Teague is another one who can go. These blokes have been charge of various areas and have failed.
Complete wipe out of most assistants is what is required, and get Grigg and poach Hodge to replace them.
Does Hodge have any ambitions to coach?
I see people talking about hodge a lot here. Correct me if I’m
Wrong but he has done no coaching and hasn’t expressed the desire to coach at all. Where the stuff is this coming from
I’ve been guilty of running that narrative and it’s purely romanticism with him being a tigers supporter. I believe he has done no accredited afl coaching courses and on top of that is really settled in Brisbane so the likelihood of him coaching us is like me winning powerball
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I feel like I'm the only one annoyed we don't have a coach yet.
Liam Henry choosing to be traded to St.Kilda this weekend. We wouldn't have been an option anyway however without a coach appointed we are less likely to be a destination for anyone of we were in the mix. Has the club said when this will be completed by. Hardwick left 3 months ago and is already working on improving another list.
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All I can say .. people like Brendon Gale and Neil Balme have a track record unrivalled, we have to trust they know what they are doing . I certainly have complete faith in them
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I am not concerned at all. We need to select the best person for the job so a few weeks is nothing. Blair and Tim look after acquisitions in the main so it's all good :thumbsup
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No concern my end
This is the most important decision the Club has faced in a very long time
So important they get it right and get the right person for our Club. Not the person the media or even us fans thinks is the right person
That they are taking their time being methodical shows that they know the importance of the decision
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I feel like I'm the only one annoyed we don't have a coach yet.
Liam Henry choosing to be traded to St.Kilda this weekend. We wouldn't have been an option anyway however without a coach appointed we are less likely to be a destination for anyone of we were in the mix. Has the club said when this will be completed by. Hardwick left 3 months ago and is already working on improving another list.
When Dimma left the club said they'd take their time & find the right person to coach us. Thats exactly what they're doing. They also said that they would like to announce the appointment by the time the finals finished. Here we are with 3 weeks still left of finals & an announcement is expected soon. Who that will be I don't know.
No issue as far as I can see, they're still sticking with that timeline.
I like the fact that there seems to be no leaks about who's in the mix. The media nuffies are full of speculation & guesses.
I'm excited to see who'll lead us into our next era.
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I like the fact leaks are zero or minimal. I wonder if it has anything to do with the environment that people like Benny and Peggy fostered that has the club acting as one in all facets
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Hearing that Yze is the man.
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Seems the best of a fairly uninspiring bunch...good enough seat warmer until Hodge decides to hang up the mike.... :shh
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Hearing that Yze is the man.
In the last week I've heard 2 different names as being the front runners and Yze isn't one of them ;D
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Hearing that Yze is the man.
In the last week I've heard 2 different names as being the front runners and Yze isn't one of them ;D
Well don’t hold back !
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Hearing that Yze is the man.
In the last week I've heard 2 different names as being the front runners and Yze isn't one of them ;D
It's become like Chinese whispers lol who did you hear ?.
Edit: Fixed quoting tags
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There's only 4 left. So, if Yze isn't the front runner, then it's either Newy, Mini or Clarke? I can't see Clarke getting it. So, I'm presuming the two different names that are the front runners are Newy and Mini.
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Hearing that Yze is the man.
In the last week I've heard 2 different names as being the front runners and Yze isn't one of them ;D
Well don’t hold back !
Hearing that Yze is the man.
In the last week I've heard 2 different names as being the front runners and Yze isn't one of them ;D
It's become like Chinese whispers lol who did you hear ?.
Edit: Fixed quoting tags
:lol I heard Mini on the Sunday and 2 days later I heard Newman
Personally I'm just sitting back an enjoying the intrigue :rollin
I think we will know in the next fortnight
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I want a fresh, non-Richmond face.
Feel like this would go a lot better if someone came into the club without existing opinions or relationships so much.
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What's Big Note up to these days? Did his apprenticeship under Jade the Blade. Wouldn't like to be a non-white player if he gets the job though. :shh
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What's Big Note up to these days? Did his apprenticeship under Jade the Blade. Wouldn't like to be a non-white player if he gets the job though. :shh
:shh :shh
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Down to Yze and Mcqualter. Yze please
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Down to Yze and Mcqualter. Yze please
x 2
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Frontrunners emerge as Tigers' coaching search reaches pointy end
By Callum Twomey
afl.com.au
12 September 2023
(https://resources.afl.com.au/photo-resources/2023/09/12/c379df3d-c4de-4731-866b-09623b67e922/YzeMini.jpg?width=1064&height=600)
RICHMOND is getting to the business end of its coaching search, with Andrew McQualter and Adem Yze shaping as the leading contenders for the role.
The Tigers are understood to be reaching the final stages of their process to find the full-time successor for Damien Hardwick, who quit the club mid-season and has joined Gold Coast as its new head coach.
Essendon assistant Daniel Giansiracusa, Hawthorn assistant Chris Newman and Richmond assistant Xavier Clarke had also been on the Tigers' coaching shortlist but are understood to no longer be part of the process.
McQualter steered Richmond through the second half of the season as interim coach and showed his credentials, guiding the Tigers to seven wins from 13 games. He has been an assistant through Richmond's golden premiership run after arriving at the club at the end of 2014.
Yze decided on taking part in the coaching process through Melbourne's finals run, having been close to winning the Greater Western Sydney position last year and also being in the running for Essendon's senior coach job which was filled by Brad Scott.
Richmond had interest in Port Adelaide assistant Josh Carr being part of the process, however, as AFL.com.au revealed last month, he chose to stick with the Power. Highly rated assistant pair Troy Chaplin (Melbourne) and Jaymie Graham (Fremantle) also did not take part in the process.
In announcing their panel to select the next Richmond coach, Tigers president John O'Rourke said the club was aiming for the coaching process to be completed by September with the industry view that an appointment is likely before the Grand Final.
https://www.afl.com.au/news/1030976/frontrunners-emerge-as-richmond-tigers-coaching-search-reaches-pointy-end
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Yze for me not interested in Mini.
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Everyone is entitled to an opinion no issue with that at all, but surely we have to trust the likes of Gale and Balme and others who understand the football world and in Brendon’s case management and football to make the right decision . And to top it off those two have a track record second to none .
We all here want the club to go in a particular direction but only those inside the club know all the facts and thus can act accordingly
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Everyone is entitled to an opinion no issue with that at all, but surely we have to trust the likes of Gale and Balme and others who understand the football world and in Brendon’s case management and football to make the right decision . And to top it off those two have a track record second to none .
We all here want the club to go in a particular direction but only those inside the club know all the facts and thus can act accordingly
Why. They’ve sat on their hands whilst the likes of Fly and Kingsley departed, ignored Dimmas midlife crisis and allow duds like Meehan, Clarke and Sheehan long term contracts. They can pee off also if they appoint Mini.
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I think club is in safe hands.
More than likely that the next coach will be guiding through some pain and might even be a “transtion” coach as we regenerate list, playing style and development of younger talent.
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Can anyone shed light on how much involvement/control Mini would have had on team selection??
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Can anyone shed light on how much involvement/control Mini would have had on team selection??
He is the coach. He has full control over team selections. Hence why it would be a stuffen disaster if he gets the job. Jack Graham played every game under his term and he didn’t play Trzise or Brown until the last round
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Can anyone shed light on how much involvement/control Mini would have had on team selection??
He is the coach. He has full control over team selections. Hence why it would be a stuffen disaster if he gets the job. Jack Graham played every game under his term and he didn’t play Trzise or Brown until the last round
Full control? Seriously. Ever heard of match committee? He may have had the deciding vote but to say others didn't have any input is laughable.
I'm not saying he should get the job, not saying he will but for people to think he could have totally changed the gameplan/style mid season is ridiculous. that was never going to happen, no matter how much people wanted it or thought it should happen
I would think if he was to get the gig it will because will bring his own philosophies to the table, he would have presented his thoughts on the list, where we are at etc. Mid season I don't think you can't do that
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From Callum Twomey on SEN:
Richmond coaching job
“Two front-runners have emerged - Interim coach Andrew McQualter and Melbourne assistant Adem Yze.
“They were on the shortlist along Essendon assistant Daniel Giansiracusa, Hawthorn assistant and of course former Tigers skipper Chris Newman, and also Richmond assistant Xavier Clarke.
“My understanding is Newman, Giansiracusa and Clarke are no longer part of the process as it stands.
“So it looks the leading two candidates in there are McQualter and Yze. We know McQualter did a fantastic job in the second half of the season. Yze of course has come close a number of times for GWS and Essendon jobs in the past.
“Expecting a coaching appointment around Grand Final time for the Tigers.”
https://www.sen.com.au/news/2023/09/13/cal-twomeys-trade-draft-and-coaching-update/
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Can anyone shed light on how much involvement/control Mini would have had on team selection??
He is the coach. He has full control over team selections. Hence why it would be a stuffen disaster if he gets the job. Jack Graham played every game under his term and he didn’t play Trzise or Brown until the last round
Full control? Seriously. Ever heard of match committee? He may have had the deciding vote but to say others didn't have any input is laughable.
I'm not saying he should get the job, not saying he will but for people to think he could have totally changed the gameplan/style mid season is ridiculous. that was never going to happen, no matter how much people wanted it or thought it should happen
I would think if he was to get the gig it will because will bring his own philosophies to the table, he would have presented his thoughts on the list, where we are at etc. Mid season I don't think you can't do that
Given the way he deferred to Tim Livingstone in a couple of sessions he had with members I'd argue that he had some clear guidelines around his role as interim coach. I got the distinct impression that Tim was clearly managing certain key elements of the MC.
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Given the way he deferred to Tim Livingstone in a couple of sessions he had with members I'd argue that he had some clear guidelines around his role as interim coach. I got the distinct impression that Tim was clearly managing certain key elements of the MC.
totally agree
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Retired Tigers great backs McQualter for top job
By AAP
13 September 2023
RETIRED triple-premiership captain Trent Cotchin believes Andrew McQualter has the attributes to make a "brilliant" senior coach and can steer Richmond back into the finals next season.
McQualter took the reins when Damien Hardwick stepped down in May and remains in contention to be appointed the new Gold Coast coach's full-time successor at Punt Road.
AFL.com.au has reported that Melbourne assistant Adem Yze is also in the running having narrowly missed out on the Greater Western Sydney job to former Tigers assistant Adam Kingsley last year.
Fellow assistant coaches Daniel Giansiracusa (Essendon), Chris Newman (Hawthorn) and Xavier Clarke (Richmond) had also been on Richmond's shortlist but, as AFL.com.au reported on Tuesday, the trio is no longer part of the process.
Cotchin worked closely with McQualter after the former St Kilda and Gold Coast utility's arrival at Richmond in 2014, initially in a development role, and backed the 37-year-old to step into the full-time senior coaching position.
"From an attributes point of view, he's got everything that's required to be a brilliant senior coach," Cotchin told reporters on Wednesday.
"His ideas and plans, if he was to be the successful candidate, are really exciting for the club.
"But I'm sure the club are doing everything they can to select the right person for the role to take (them) forward."
McQualter had a positive 7-6 record as interim coach but Richmond finished 13th, two wins outside the top eight.
Cotchin was not at all surprised by the way McQualter seamlessly stepped in to fill the void left by Hardwick.
"I expected him to be brilliant at what he did," Cotchin said.
"He's so invested in the players and the care and making sure that he maximises the talent that's on the list.
"It's always hard when the finals opportunity gets taken away from you, which happened probably two or three weeks out from finals. Keeping a team motivated is really hard.
"But the way that they performed in the last round with a few players out was really special and significant."
https://www.afl.com.au/news/1031171/retired-tigers-great-trent-cotchin-backs-andrew-mcqualter-for-top-job
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I'm not sure on Livingston his dropped the ball last couple of years.
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a few on other platforms going early with Yze
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Hopefully Dees lose tonight so we can find out
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Hopefully Dees lose tonight so we can find out
I want to find out but can wait another week if it means Carlton are out
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I can wait 3 weeks if it means the match day coach of the current premiers is the next tiger coach :shh
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I can wait 3 weeks if it means the match day coach of the current premiers is the next tiger coach :shh
Welcome back Leppa!
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I can wait 3 weeks if it means the match day coach of the current premiers is the next tiger coach :shh
Welcome back Leppa!
Ha ha. Leppa is a proven assistant, we know this.
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I want hodge and Leppa at the club, make it happen, in all honesty we can have dual captains, y not a dual coach??
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Interesting to see if an announcement comes soon now.
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Interesting to see if Melbourne going out in straight sets two years in row will affect Yze's chances. It shouldn't as he is their midfield/stoppage coach and not responsible for their chokers up in their forward line.
For me, whoever the new coach is will need to totally rejig our gameplan and re-educate our players on the basics especially defensively. Win, lose or draw, we need to get back to protecting the defensive side of stoppages and contests as well as improving our tackling technique.
It's hard to know from the outside what conversations and presentations have been given during the coaching selection process. If Mini was hampered by taking over the team midseason from making major gameplan changes in-season and has promised to introduce them over the upcoming preseason then fair enough. However, Mini shouldn't get the gig if he wants us basically playing the same way next year as this year.
Interesting to see if an announcement comes soon now.
Presumably it will be during the week after the Grand Final, so the announcement gets the maximum media attention.
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Given the three re-signings announced today it's probably Mini and more of the same old same old. :sleep
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Adem Yze in multiple interviews across the pre-match said he has a final interview with Richmond's panel next week before a decision is made. He hasn't been told this but the feeling is it's him or Andrew McQualter, who still has every strong admirers within Richmond.
https://twitter.com/RalphyHeraldSun/status/1702613720327970945
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Didn't Yze say last week his done his part at Richmond interview wise doesn't make sense.
Yze is not the head coach of the dees let's not forget that. His line is the midfield and both games dees we're dominant in the guts. Previously he had the defence which looked much stronger.
The process has taken way to long for liking other clubs are in to trade targets and list management and we haven't got a coach or assistants around him.
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Didn't Yze say last week his done his part at Richmond interview wise doesn't make sense.
Yze is not the head coach of the dees let's not forget that. His line is the midfield and both games dees we're dominant in the guts. Previously he had the defence which looked much stronger.
The process has taken way to long for liking other clubs are in to trade targets and list management and we haven't got a coach or assistants around him.
No what Yze said was he was done for now and the Club said they'd be in contact with him again in a couple of weeks.
I should think it's called respect and the respecting him and his position at a Club in the finals. He may not be head coach but he is the senior assistant at the over rated Dees
The process hasn't taken too long IMHO. The most significant appointment in over a decade that the Club needs to get right. They should be taking their time.
And have you ever considered that all candidates would have given their views on the list and what it needs etc. So our list management team would actually know what to look for?
Given the three re-signings announced today it's probably Mini and more of the same old same old. :sleep
There were 5 re-signings announced yesterday :shh
But Given the 3 I'm sure you're talking about had trigger clauses in their existing contracts there isn't much any in coming coach, whoever that maybe can do about it
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Won't be long now ;D
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I'm still frustrated this hasn't been completed. I know the decision is still within the time frame the club set out but I can count half a dozen players in the competition who have nominated other clubs as destinations to be traded to. None have been us, the fact we don't have a coach lowers our value as a destination.
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maybe its more to the point that A. we do not have any worth while Draft picks or not required players of value to be able to do any deals and B. with limited cap space the type of players that are requesting trades we have an abundance of so lets spend wisely ... I don't see any quality KPF's requesting a trade so far
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It'll be Ralphsmith for a token pick and that'll be it.... :shh
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Won't be long now ;D
Tuesday
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Out of curiosity What line has Yze had at the dees?, and has he coached his own side before?
My money is on mcqualter, and they have already made up their mind. Pure guess but that's mine.
Shame it was really only down to 2
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Who else would you go after?
Josh Carr? His brand looks broken after the drivel dished up by Port in those finals.
Lepp? Doesn’t want it and I am personally of the view he’s just not senior coaching material
Don Pyke? Again, maybe as a football administrator like ceo but not coach
Hodge - profiling like Gaz Lyon and Dermie at the same point in their post football career - media
There’s really no better choices out there who:-
a) want to coach
b) are good enough
Finally, if you don’t want to coach Richmond then eff off.
You either lack the ambition to be a premiership coach or don’t have the confidence to thrive in our environment.
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Who else would you go after?
Josh Carr? His brand looks broken after the drivel dished up by Port in those finals.
Lepp? Doesn’t want it and I am personally of the view he’s just not senior coaching material
Don Pyke? Again, maybe as a football administrator like ceo but not coach
Hodge - profiling like Gaz Lyon and Dermie at the same point in their post football career - media
There’s really no better choices out there who:-
a) want to coach
b) are good enough
Finally, if you don’t want to coach Richmond then eff off.
You either lack the ambition to be a premiership coach or don’t have the confidence to thrive in our environment.
yze is mfc midfield coach. Their strongest attribute probably.
Im not opposed to McQualter as many others are. To think he would make drastic changes halfway through the season isnt great. I agree with those who say we need fresh ideas etc but im not so quick to write off McQualter for having these fresh ideas and changes. If the club choose him then im confident hes the right man. Besides, getting a coach isnt our problem.. its our list.
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McQualter was given the job of interim coach for the remainder of 2023. That's a fairly limited job where he had to deal with some one else's mess. But being given the real coaches job with free reign to do it his way could be a totally different scenario.
Those saying they have seen enough of McQualter because he stuck to the script haven't really thought it through. Maybe sticking to the script was the absolutely perfect thing to do ...
There is the devil you know & then there's the other guy you don't know at all, which one is the bigger risk?
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Mini was stuck - stick to script and fiddle with a few bits and pieces or overhaul?
Either way, he’s going to cop it. In some ways, it was the poisoned chalice.
He did ok. He asked questions of where to play Balta - the kid is a forward
He put Shorty back where he plays his best footy.
He gave most kids a go in the back end of the year.
He dropped others that were considered favourites.
Dimma coached 3 and 7 and he went 7 and 6.
However you want to look at it, he’s done a pretty good job.
If he was to get the job - the key is the support coaching staff.
We need fresher coaches around him than Truck, Teague and Clarke.
The job is more about the entire coaching staff than just the head coach.
I reckon that is where Dimma started to go wrong in the last couple of years.
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On one hand, yes you don’t want to chop and change game plans mid season. On the other hand we really had to win against melb and bulldogs and we absolutely nuffed both chances. We rested martin in a do or die which was insane and the players were playing like they couldn’t give a stuff about September under mcqualter.
To me it has to be someone else
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The one that had me confused , is the management of Dion last game of the season.. I understand the game was irrelevant for us.
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The new coach need to have rebuilding skills , recruiting and development, our position has changed due to our Success in the previous years we don’t have a many good players that are required to play consistent finals, we need improvement from what we have and need to develop what we recruit to fill those glaring holes in our list
No need to clean out what we have but we need a mini rebuild and if the new coach thinks we don’t to change anything we probably have picked the wrong coach
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Andrew McQualter, Adem Yze vie for Richmond coaching job
Jon Ralph
HeraldSun
September 17, 2023 - 5:10PM
Melbourne assistant coach Adem Yze and Richmond interim coach Andrew McQualter will give their final presentations in the next 48 hours as the Tigers close in on a replacement for Damien Hardwick.
Richmond has been wowed by Yze’s detailed presentation handed to them in the week of the pre-finals bye after he narrowly missed out to Brad Scott (Essendon) and Adam Kingsley (GWS) last year.
But McQualter still has strong support from within Richmond, so the decision is a lineball call between two quality candidates.
Yze’s second presentation early this week comes after the Demons crashed out of finals contention with a second straight-sets defeat, and he would be a significant loss from the club’s coaching panel.
While McQualter’s 7-6 win-loss record included four losses in his final five games, the Tigers have always maintained he would not be judged solely on short-term results.
Richmond is keen to make its decision ahead of the grand final and yet with few significant trade targets have not been in a dramatic rush to make a decision.
Yze said on Friday as part of his pre-match duties as a Demons assistant he was “proud” of how he had stood up in the challenging aspects of Richmond’s initial interview.
“(Richmond) have been terrific,” he told the ABC.
“They allowed me to have my presentation the week we had off leading into finals, and the next meeting I have got with them is next week. That is the last one I will present to and then they will make a decision after that. I have really enjoyed it.
“I really enjoyed the processes I went through last year with both clubs and this has been no different. It tests you. It puts you in a scenario and shows your vulnerabilities, and I have really enjoyed the process and am really proud of the way I have presented. I just know I have a presentation early next week and then they will get back to me on that.
“The first presentation is the hardest and you have to put a fair bit of preparation into it.
“I had four days off so I could put my presentation hat on and dig into that, and once we have gone back into our footy club, I have gone back into my normal job and I have the weekend to organise my last presentation and see how it goes.”
https://www.codesports.com.au/afl/afl-2023-andrew-mcqualter-adem-yze-vie-for-richmond-coaching-job/news-story/9b7685850cf11a6272ae8e5177d8b7e3
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From the Melbourne forum Demonland.
Yze has the Richmond job, i have been told…
He has a fourth interview this Tuesday. Sounds as though it’s merely a formality. This came from his niece.
Yep should be announced this week
https://demonland.com/forums/topic/56304-coaching-reshuffle-at-the-demons/
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Mini couldn't even control the controllables his team selection was bang average kids took the rapt. We had those 2 stinkers we're we lacked effort. Senior players checked out and not one dropped. He only played kids at the end when finals was gone.
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Mini couldn't even control the controllables his team selection was bang average kids took the rapt. We had those 2 stinkers we're we lacked effort. Senior players checked out and not one dropped. He only played kids at the end when finals was gone.
Mini is a dud. The fact he is in the final two is embarrassing for the club and a poor reflection on the people running the process.
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No one really knows what he control of and what he didnt but his lack of enthusiasm geez. I recall someone asked about finals and his answer left me shaking my head. The resting of players in matches we had a better chance of winning was very strange.
I would fall asleep listening to him so if he gets it lets hope he has more mongrel than what we have seen.
If he gets it, i also hope he cleans out the dead wood of those topping up their retirement package and thats starts with Teague and some of those underperforming footy department duds.
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Who else would you go after?
Josh Carr? His brand looks broken after the drivel dished up by Port in those finals.
Lepp? Doesn’t want it and I am personally of the view he’s just not senior coaching material
Don Pyke? Again, maybe as a football administrator like ceo but not coach
Hodge - profiling like Gaz Lyon and Dermie at the same point in their post football career - media
There’s really no better choices out there who:-
a) want to coach
b) are good enough
Finally, if you don’t want to coach Richmond then eff off.
You either lack the ambition to be a premiership coach or don’t have the confidence to thrive in our environment.
im not saying we should go after this and that, what i am saying is this is the best that is out there?
either the club hasnt sold it well, or prospective coaches looked at this list and thought na we aint going anywhere in 5 years.
Carr, Skipworth etc didnt want a bar of it.
The biggest issue i have is in our assistants. Dimma getting these guys in was more about a feel good story after their sacking than anything they bring to the table. Case in point is Teague. WTF is he actually doing?
Look what the blues are doing since he left. I hope the new coach cleans out all of them and starts again with fresh ideas and faces.
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'The Richmond coaching race is still 50-50' - Tom Morris
Go to 8:38 min mark: https://megaphone.link/NTETP8072085830
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Who else would you go after?
Josh Carr? His brand looks broken after the drivel dished up by Port in those finals.
Lepp? Doesn’t want it and I am personally of the view he’s just not senior coaching material
Don Pyke? Again, maybe as a football administrator like ceo but not coach
Hodge - profiling like Gaz Lyon and Dermie at the same point in their post football career - media
There’s really no better choices out there who:-
a) want to coach
b) are good enough
Finally, if you don’t want to coach Richmond then eff off.
You either lack the ambition to be a premiership coach or don’t have the confidence to thrive in our environment.
im not saying we should go after this and that, what i am saying is this is the best that is out there?
either the club hasnt sold it well, or prospective coaches looked at this list and thought na we aint going anywhere in 5 years.
Carr, Skipworth etc didnt want a bar of it.
The biggest issue i have is in our assistants. Dimma getting these guys in was more about a feel good story after their sacking than anything they bring to the table. Case in point is Teague. WTF is he actually doing?
Look what the blues are doing since he left. I hope the new coach cleans out all of them and starts again with fresh ideas and faces.
Agree on this. Assistants have shown to be enormously effective.
Carracella and Leppa for us for dynasty.
Leppa has helped turn around Collingwood with Fly.
Teague who was poor at Calrton has continued to be part of poor performance.
It's easy to point fingers but there is a clear pattern that good assistants are linked to good performances.
I guess the Rutten and Teague appointments had a similar thought to Leppa who came to us after being sacked at Lions.
Apparently still undecided which is really frustrating that there is about 10 days left of the entire season left and we still don't have a head coach.
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Still undecided Mini has been at club how long and he had 14 games if he wasn't appointed by now it's simple his not the one.
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"Melbourne are firmly of the belief that Yze has done quite well in that process, has a last interview this week, and could move on" - Caroline Wilson's update on the Richmond coaching job.
Watch here: https://twitter.com/FootyonNine/status/1703743480600682629
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Personally I don't understand what the club can gleam from so many interviews lol
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Still undecided Mini has been at club how long and he had 14 games if he wasn't appointed by now it's simple his not the one.
So it has nothing to do with the process they've put in place that all candidates have to go thorugh and they are not deviating from? ::)
He is going through it and has supposedly made to to the final 2.
We want them to do it properly and they are. If he had been appointed without any process, you know interviews, presentations, phych testing etc everyone would be screaming "jobs for the boys"
As I've said all along I've got no issue with the time taken as it appears they are doing it the right way. I don't care which one gets the job as I trust the Club will appoint the person who has met the criteria set and can take us forward
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What if the process is just a show. To show us all they have gone through a process .. we will never know unless yze is picked. If mini is picked doubts will always be there that the process was all for show.
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Who else would you go after?
Josh Carr? His brand looks broken after the drivel dished up by Port in those finals.
Lepp? Doesn’t want it and I am personally of the view he’s just not senior coaching material
Don Pyke? Again, maybe as a football administrator like ceo but not coach
Hodge - profiling like Gaz Lyon and Dermie at the same point in their post football career - media
There’s really no better choices out there who:-
a) want to coach
b) are good enough
Finally, if you don’t want to coach Richmond then eff off.
You either lack the ambition to be a premiership coach or don’t have the confidence to thrive in our environment.
im not saying we should go after this and that, what i am saying is this is the best that is out there?
either the club hasnt sold it well, or prospective coaches looked at this list and thought na we aint going anywhere in 5 years.
Carr, Skipworth etc didnt want a bar of it.
The biggest issue i have is in our assistants. Dimma getting these guys in was more about a feel good story after their sacking than anything they bring to the table. Case in point is Teague. WTF is he actually doing?
Look what the blues are doing since he left. I hope the new coach cleans out all of them and starts again with fresh ideas and faces.
Agree on this. Assistants have shown to be enormously effective.
Carracella and Leppa for us for dynasty.
Leppa has helped turn around Collingwood with Fly.
Teague who was poor at Calrton has continued to be part of poor performance.
I guess the Rutten and Teague appointments had a similar thought to Leppa who came to us after being sacked at Lions.
Rutten started his coaching career at Richmond and was here for the 2017 flag. :shh
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Yze
Is it announced or hunch like I have?
Over coming days, hearing enough about it from ppl who are good with Tiger info. Thought i'd put a teaser out there
https://twitter.com/Jonesracing82/status/1703936851663597799
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POLL | Richmond fans - who do you want as your senior coach out of the two remaining contenders?
Andrew McQualter 24.5%
Adem Yze 75.5%
343 votes
https://twitter.com/DwaynesWorldSEN/status/1703962977077174741
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Inside job or outside voice: Who'll be Tigers' agent of change?
Richmond faces a potentially era-defining decision in choose between Andrew McQualter and Adem Yze for its new coach
By Callum Twomey
afl.com.au
19 August 2023
AFTER going through its premiership era, Richmond is now in the process of change.
Damien Hardwick, their triple-premiership coach, left mid-season and is now in the Gold Coast bright red polo. Trent Cotchin, the skipper of all those flags, has retired as has the spearhead of their glory years, Jack Riewoldt. Administratively, John O'Rourke has been the Tigers' president for less than a year. His next decision will be his biggest so far. Who will fill the shoes permanently of Hardwick?
As AFL.com.au reported last week, interim coach Andrew McQualter and Melbourne assistant Adem Yze have leapt ahead as the two frontrunners for the role, with well-credentialled assistants Daniel Giansiracusa (Essendon), Chris Newman (Hawthorn) and Xavier Clarke (Richmond) no longer a part of the Tigers' coaching process. A decision is expected around Grand Final time.
A key question will be how much more change is actually required? There is an argument that whoever is appointed – regardless of background at Tigerland or not – will be a voice of change on top of the layers that have already occurred in recent months.
In McQualter, the Tigers have a long-term assistant who knows the group, is popular and respected by players and understands the Richmond way. A short-term interim coaching stint does not provide a strong window for change to be introduced like a full-time coaching job would. Nor should the caretaker curse be applied to him like it has for others in recent seasons – his time as Richmond's head coach didn't come after a brutal sacking or stretch of pressure.
In Yze, the Tigers will be considering a fresh voice altogether who comes from a developed program, has match-day experience with the Demons and has been second-placed in his past two attempts at landing a senior coaching role – with Essendon and Greater Western Sydney. The Giants' success this season under Adam Kingsley, who had also been knocked back for previous coaching roles, will work in the favour of those who have chased multiple jobs.
In deciding between two qualified, experienced and successful candidates, the Tigers will also be weighing the unique circumstances of their coaching search.
It didn't come on the back of a horror season, an elongated period of failure or a culture that has imploded. It was driven by Hardwick's quick and sudden departure from the club, with the new Suns head coach saying he had "tried to cook the sausages 100 different ways and I couldn't find 1001". Richmond players, too, might have been ready to see the barbecue packed up and put in the garage.
Because of Hardwick's rapid mid-season exit, McQualter was thrown the keys to the senior team as the interim coach and finished with a 7-6 winning record. He made moves – restoring Liam Baker to the forward line, Dustin Martin to the midfield and Jayden Short getting back to his running best off half-back – and rode the wave of a club dealing with the end of its golden run but working ways to remain in the finals hunt until the last few weeks of the season. Four players also got their debuts under McQualter.
That McQualter was by Hardwick's side for a decade since joining Richmond in 2014 gives him an advantage on knowing the inner workings of the club and what has contributed to their premierships. Familiarity can be the friend of success. That Yze hasn't had this gives the former Dees forward an edge if the Tigers are looking for an outsider's view.
Yze has been in charge of the Demons' midfield and is also the head of strategy on game day and in constant communication to coach Simon Goodwin from the coaches' box. Before Melbourne, he had been at Hawthorn as an assistant coach. Yze had taken some time to decide whether to throw himself into the coaching process at Richmond, which itself was done a little differently to other clubs through the application process.
Now that process is at its pointy end, the Tigers have a call to make. If change is on the agenda, both offer it in different ways.
https://www.afl.com.au/news/1035753/inside-job-or-outside-voice-who-will-be-tigers-agent-of-change
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Yze
Is it announced or hunch like I have?
Over coming days, hearing enough about it from ppl who are good with Tiger info. Thought i'd put a teaser out there
https://twitter.com/Jonesracing82/status/1703936851663597799
He has 50% chance of being right
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He has a 100% chance that the person who will be announced is either Yze or McQualter
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POLL | Richmond fans - who do you want as your senior coach out of the two remaining contenders?
Andrew McQualter 24.5%
Adem Yze 75.5%
343 votes
https://twitter.com/DwaynesWorldSEN/status/1703962977077174741
I think if you could poll all tiger supporters and they all voted that would be a reflection of what they think.
Reckon most thinking supporters acknowledge the need to go outside the club for new ideas and an unbiased view of where the club is at and where the players are at.
Long term invested people imo are not capable of being objective enough.
Time to find the next group of players over the next 5 - 8 years and find the new system that gives us an edge over everyone.
To me that has to come from outside the back slapping boys club we are becoming.
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It’s interesting.
We have 2 of the last 3 senior coaches that have been appointed from the assistants and they are both in prelims this weekend.
Finally, we’ve actually become a breeding ground for senior coaching and we want “outsider ideas”.
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https://twitter.com/7NewsMelbourne/status/1704055989153210713
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What a joke. An exclusive about nothing
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POLL | Richmond fans - who do you want as your senior coach out of the two remaining contenders?
Andrew McQualter 24.5%
Adem Yze 75.5%
343 votes
https://twitter.com/DwaynesWorldSEN/status/1703962977077174741
I think if you could poll all tiger supporters and they all voted that would be a reflection of what they think.
Reckon most thinking supporters acknowledge the need to go outside the club for new ideas and an unbiased view of where the club is at and where the players are at.
Long term invested people imo are not capable of being objective enough.
Time to find the next group of players over the next 5 - 8 years and find the new system that gives us an edge over everyone.
To me that has to come from outside the back slapping boys club we are becoming.
spot on
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https://twitter.com/7NewsMelbourne/status/1704055989153210713
what a laugh
anyone else they want to get for an expert opinion? Sam Kekovich, Robbie walls again?
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Pretty confident the search was over a few days ago, Yze to be announced shortly
Confident when it’s from you… good source?
2 x people with very very good sources and track record confirmed the same thing to me seperate of each other.
@Grockadoc was 1 and the other is Nick who has been the one responsible for all our past player guests, so contacts are pretty solid!
https://twitter.com/BFtigercast/status/1704061303596429615
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And posted this arvo (at 3pm):
Wouldn’t be surprised if @Richmond_FC make an announcement on the coach tomorrow- currently directors of the board arriving at the club and parking behind closed gates
https://twitter.com/freakyherc/status/1704000316746895663
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Richmond coach clue as Tigers chief spotted in meeting with Adem Yze and Nathan Buckley
Richmond are just days away from announcing their new coach after a three-hour long interview.
Cameron Noakes
Seven
19 September 2023
Richmond’s long search for a new coach is racing to an end and 7NEWS cameras have captured Tigers chief Brendon Gale in a meeting with top candidate Adem Yze.
7NEWS can also reveal that former Collingwood coach and Brownlow medallist Nathan Buckley has emerged as a “surprise” key player.
It now appears the Victorian powerhouse AFL club has just taken a big step to replacing their three-time premiership mastermind Damien Hardwick after a three-hour long meeting in Richmond on Tuesday.
Hardwick stunned the AFL world when he announced he was quitting the club in May this year.
Former St Kilda forward Andrew McQualter took the reins as interim coach after Hardwick’s departure, and it has largely been seen as a race in two between McQualter and Yze (an assistant at Melbourne) since.
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Nathan Buckley was spotted at the Richmond meeting. Credit: Seven
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Mitch Cleary speaks to Adem Yze after the interview wrapped up. Credit: Seven
With Melbourne’s season ending on Friday, Richmond have now positioned themselves to make an announcement soon.
7NEWS AFL reporter Mitch Cleary spotted the key figures on the heavyweight panel leaving the meeting on Tuesday.
“It certainly was a surprise to see Nathan Buckley part of the Tigers’ coaching search today as it reaches decision time at Punt Road,” Cleary said.
“The former Collingwood coach (was) part of a three-hour meeting in the heart of Richmond .... as an expert consultant.”
Cleary believes the Tigers are just days away from landing on Hardwick’s successor
Others who were caught on camera included former Tigers captain Trent Cotchin and Melbourne Storm general manager Frank Ponissi.
Gale told 7NEWS that the panel had a valuable mix of perspectives from former leaders, coaches and - in both Buckley and Cotchin - captains.
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Mitch Cleary speaks to Tigers chief Brendon Gale. Credit: Seven
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Brendon Gale says progress is being made a decision should be soon. Credit: Seven
Yze narrowly missed out on the Greater Western Sydney job to former Tigers assistant Adam Kingsley last year.
He was also pipped at the post by Brad Scott when Essendon named their new coach at the end of last season.
But Yze said he was feeling confident this time.
“It was a good meeting,” Yze told Cleary.
“I’m not sure how it’s going to go. (I) can’t comment too much. They’ve got some decisions to make (but) it was good fun.
“I feel like I’ve presented really well so hopefully that’s enough and we’ll see how we go,” Yze told 7NEWS.
Gale said they were “making good progress”.
“It’s a very exciting process and one that’ll be re-energising (for the club),” Gale said.
https://7news.com.au/sport/afl/richmond-coach-clue-as-tigers-chief-spotted-in-meeting-with-adem-yze-and-nathan-buckley-c-11950127
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David Zita on Fox Footy provides an update on the Richmond coaching search. 👀
Watch here: https://twitter.com/FOXFOOTY/status/1704062671123837332
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Who do you think will be the next Richmond coach between McQualter and Yze?
Robbo and Whateley on AFL360 tonight:
Watch here: https://twitter.com/FOXFOOTY/status/1704070295861010578
The media don't have a clue who it will be.
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Not sure the fact Yze had another needing today is a clue
Seeing the man himself said he was having his 2nd interview this week ::)
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I am glad the club is taking its time in making the decision. It is a big decision to make and importantly the club appears to be undertaking a thorough approach. A rushed decision could lead to a very poor decision being made.
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I am glad the club is taking its time in making the decision. It is a big decision to make and importantly the club appears to be undertaking a thorough approach. A rushed decision could lead to a very poor decision being made.
:clapping :clapping
Exactly
Also love the fact the media haven't got a clue who it will be. No longer a leaking bucket :shh
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I am glad the club is taking its time in making the decision. It is a big decision to make and importantly the club appears to be undertaking a thorough approach. A rushed decision could lead to a very poor decision being made.
:clapping :clapping
Exactly
Also love the fact the media haven't got a clue who it will be. No longer a leaking bucket :shh
That wasn't a normal meeting yesterday 3 hours that was finalising a appointment.
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Interesting to see Buckley there
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Interesting to see Ch7 there. Clearly, they weren't invited. Cotchin leaking the details to his new employer? Pathetic if that was the case.
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Interesting to see Ch7 there. Clearly, they weren't invited. Cotchin leaking the details to his new employer? Pathetic if that was the case.
They would be parked there in anticipation of an outcome. No leaking is required.
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That wasn't a normal meeting yesterday 3 hours that was finalising a appointment.
Perhaps, McQualter was having a 2nd interview too, perhaps it was Monday or even today
but point is the Club has not been rushed into making the appointment. They have rightly taken their time. Despite a number on here saying it's taking too long
Interesting to see Ch7 there. Clearly, they weren't invited. Cotchin leaking the details to his new employer? Pathetic if that was the case.
Ummm Yze said last week in an interview he had 2nd meeting on Tuesday of this week. All any of the media needed to do was send a young cadet out to follow what Yze was doing.. Ch7 interviewed him as he was leaving not arriving :shh
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No one knows what’s transpired or transpiring at present and the sycophants are getting upset.
Brilliantly done by the club.
They’ve release what they want released, eg: candidates but this was done by the media perhaps given to them by the club as to shut them up..
Timeline was set at the beginning and will be adhered to.
Panel names given, in who will be selecting the new coach.
I’d much prefer this than previous shenanigans by Bombers and Blooze both of these clubs ran their appointments through the media.
Calm down, sit down and relax.
Enjoy your day.
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I have a little insight. It’s 100% professional.
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The Cotchin part I don't agree with he throwed his support last week behind Mini.
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I have a little insight. It’s 100% professional.
Enlighten us, please ?.
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Interesting to see Ch7 there. Clearly, they weren't invited. Cotchin leaking the details to his new employer? Pathetic if that was the case.
They would be parked there in anticipation of an outcome. No leaking is required.
The meeting was at an off-site location to specifically avoid the media. It was leaked for sure. The only one present that works for Ch7 was Cotch so makes sense it was him. He shouldn't have been invited in the 1st place.
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Just when I thought I’d be bored during the finals , with Richmond not in it .
This is the best entertainment going around , a classic who done it .. or in this case who is it
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‘He’s so ready’: Tigers coaching race down to two as AFL greats asked to help make final call
Ben Waterworth
Fox Sports
September 20th, 2023
Richmond would be acquiring “a real diamond” if it appointed Melbourne assistant Adem Yze, according to AFL 360 co-host Gerard Whateley, as the club’s hunt for its next senior coach reaches its crescendo.
The Tigers’ selection process has hit the final stage, with the last two contenders – Yze and Andrew McQualter – being put through their final interviews this week.
Collingwood legend Nathan Buckley and recently-retired triple premiership captain Trent Cotchin were asked by the Tigers to help with the back-end of the interview process and, subsequently, the committee’s recommendation to the club’s board.
Yze’s first presentation to the Tigers came during the pre-finals bye period before having a second interview on Tuesday. He was spotted by 7 News Melbourne leaving his interview.
“It was a good meeting,” Yze told 7 News Melbourne.
“I’m not sure how it’s going to go. (I) can’t comment too much. They’ve got some decisions to make (but) it was good fun.
“I feel like I’ve presented really well so hopefully that’s enough and we’ll see how we go.”
McQualter was at the helm for 13 matches, for a 7-6 win-loss record, after three-time premiership coach Damien Hardwick’s shock departure 10 rounds into the season.
But Yze, who’s currently an assistant coach at Melbourne after a successful stint at the Hawks, is right in the hunt to win his first senior gig.
Yze last year finished second to Adam Kingsley for the Giants job and was also strongly considered by Essendon before it landed on Brad Scott. Prior to that, he was one of the final candidates for the Adelaide coaching job, which was ultimately won by Matthew Nicks.
“We’ve watched McQualter in the job and he was very impressive in the way he handled it and presented himself. He’s got those inherent relationships already with so much of the Richmond group,” Whateley told AFL 360 on Tuesday night.
“Adem Yze has been running the box at Melbourne for a couple of years while Simon Goodwin has been down on the bench. He is so ready … He’s right on the cusp and I suspect whichever club ends up choosing him is going to get a real diamond there.
“From the outside, they look like two great choices.”
Yze and McQualter still remain in the hunt for the gig after highly-credentialed assistants Daniel Giansiracusa (Essendon), Chris Newman (Hawthorn) and Xavier Clarke (Richmond) didn’t make it to the second round.
AFL 360 co-host Mark Robinson said the Tigers’ decision would come down to how much strategy needed to change.
“Do they want a guy like Adem Yze coming in from the outside from a pretty successful footy club in Melbourne – he’s the ball movement coach which has come under heat in recent weeks – and get new ideas as they go forward? Or Andew McQualter, who’s been with Damien Hardwick in a pretty successful period and style of football, and go in that fashion?” Robinson asked on AFL 360.
McQualter after the Tigers’ Round 24 loss to Port Adelaide said he was looking forward to the final stages of the process.
“I have loved the opportunity I have been given … I feel like I have grown a lot in the last three months,” McQualter told reporters.
“Like any time you start a new job, even though I had seen it first-hand for a while, I was pretty green so I’ve learnt a lot, been really well supported, and I’ve loved every minute of it.”
https://www.foxsports.com.au/afl/teams/richmond-tigers/afl-news-2023-adem-yze-spotted-in-richmond-coach-interview-andrew-mcqualter-nathan-buckley-trent-cotchin/news-story/8d9234dcc4b000dba4dbab5c700c2e6e
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THE UNUSUAL SCENARIO SURROUNDING RICHMOND’S COACHING SEARCH
Andrew Slevison
SEN
20 September 2023
Richmond’s process to find a new head coach has seen the club call on a pair of famous names to help in the final stages.
Recently retired premiership captain Trent Cotchin and Collingwood great Nathan Buckley were consulting on the coaching vacancy on Tuesday as the Tigers prepare to make their decision on who replaces Damien Hardwick.
Interim Tigers coach Andrew McQualter and Melbourne assistant Adem Yze are the final two candidates remaining, but which way will the club go?
Channel 7’s Mitch Cleary provided some information on the matter and the unusual scenario surrounding the presence of Cotchin and Buckley.
“I was a bit surprised to see Nathan Buckley and Trent Cotchin as part of that (process),” Cleary said on SEN Breakfast.
“The Richmond footy club had announced their sub-committee to find the next coach the best part of six weeks ago now.
“Nathan Buckley and Trent Cotchin weren’t part of that, but they’ve been brought in in the last week by (CEO) Brendon Gale to provide what he explained as some recent experience and some fresh voice on the Richmond coaching appointment.
“Nathan Buckley spent three hours yesterday at the Richmond office a block or two away from the Punt Road facility and met with the heavyweights. Brendon Gale was in there, the head of footy Tim Livingstone, the head of talent Blair Hartley was also in that room.
“Then Trent Cotchin was brought in as well, so I’m keen to see what he has to say tonight (on Channel 7’s Talking Finals). He did the old pretend to be on the phone as he walked out.”
Cleary believes that the new additions to the coaching search have been welcomed by the incumbent group which includes Melbourne Storm’s Frank Ponissi and key members of the Richmond board and football department.
“It’s pretty unusual given that those on the committee (have been there the whole way through) - Frank Ponissi from the Melbourne Storm, key members of the board and the footy department, they’ve had an analyst in from Football Australia as well,” Cleary added.
“So it surprises me that those people have been through every step of the journey and then Buckley and Cotchin come in at the very last minute. Brendon Gale is as experienced as anyone, he knows what he’s doing, so who am I to question that?
“Sometimes in previous times when these things have happened those that have been a part of every step of the journey and have had someone come in last minute may get their noses out of joint, but they all seem to be pretty united.
“They’ve got a decision to make.”
It is understood that Yze is rated as the slight favourite ahead of McQualter who oversaw a 7-6 record during his stint as caretaker.
“Adem Yze presented yesterday. He’s been awfully close a couple of times. He was pipped by Brad Scott at Essendon and we know he ran second to Adam Kingsley (at GWS),” Cleary said further.
“For me he’d be in front right now. There was a line from Brendon Gale yesterday saying that the appointment will reenergise the club. Andrew McQualter has been there for 10 years and Adam Yze has had experience under ‘Clarko’ (Alastair Clarkson) at Hawthorn and was a big part of Melbourne’s premiership (in 2021).
“I think they are split and there is positive noise coming out around Adem Yze, but Andrew McQualter showed he’s well and truly up for the job after what he did as interim (coach).”
A decision on the Richmond coaching job is expected around Grand Final time.
https://www.sen.com.au/news/2023/09/20/the-unusual-scenario-surrounding-richmonds-coaching-search/
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I have a little insight. It’s 100% professional.
Enlighten us, please ?.
Nope. Won’t do that. But it’s far more professional and robust that anyone on this forum could even dream of.
It would be fair to say we are not north.
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The media articles are full of fluff.
No concrete information whatsoever
Again the club is running the agenda here not the media.
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Cotch on Talking Finals last night:
Cleary: Trent, tell how this [meeting] eventuated and how you were a part of the Adem Yze interview? How were you brought into this at the last minute?
Cotch: Bucks and I [were there] in an observation role. Later stages given the two candidates. Just wanted a more recent insight from not only a playing view, but also Bucks has had his own journey as coach for 9-10 years I think and was a brilliant player himself. Just getting some insights from us from our point of view but also knowing they [RFC] have a great selection committee that are going to make the right decision for the Richmond footy club.
Selwood: So Cotch, what did you pick up on that the Tigers want in a coach?
Cotch: Look, when you've had success, it's hard to maintain that desire and hunger. Both coaches (McQualter & Yze) has a real understanding of what is required for the older players. But, also a balance in the demographic they are going to be dealing with. We've got some youth there as well that need to be inspired and the coach needs to demand excellence. So, that's definitely on ...
Brayshaw: How are you remaining impartial given you are close to Andrew McQualter having worked closely with him?
Cotch: Look, it comes down to the maturity of it. I'm not suggesting I'm a very mature person [laughs]. I love Mini. I think he is a fantastic person. He's a brilliant coach. And whether it is the Richmond job or another senior gig, he will be a senior coach at some stage. But [I'm] very much just sitting there and understand obviously the rooms were very different because [there's] someone who has close relationships with a lot of people inside the room and someone who is new to that environment. They were different interviews but both very impressive.
Watson: There's a Richmond system which he [McQualter] already knows and then you're bringing in someone [Yze] from the outside who doesn't understand that Richmond system. Is that a risk in any way?
Cotch: I don't know if it's a risk. Sometimes when you've been successful, you do need to evolve. And whether that's someone who's been inside your system and has some ideas that now with a senior coach role they can potentially start implementing some of those, or someone who has been in a different environment that can bring a different element and freshness with some new ideas they've seen over their journey.
https://7plus.com.au/talking-finals?episode-id=TAFI23-003
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From Fox Footy's 'Midweek Tackle' last night:
Sam Landsberger: Speaking to Melbourne people last week, they were bracing that Adem Yze would go. They were anticipating that he would get the job. I think Ralphy, a decision is two days away?
Jon Ralph: Yeah, I think it's a Friday decision. They need more time. There was a board meeting that was scheduled last night. No decision had been made there. So, the panel has taken time to get together. Paddy Steinfort is overseas. There's no prospect of McQualter missing out on the job and staying. He would leave. That's my understanding. You've got to set yourself up for the next gig.
Landsberger: So, like [caretaker coach] McVeigh last year at the Giants?
Ralph: You built up these great relationships with the players then all of a sudden Yze comes in and you're feeling uncomfortable about it. If I'm him [McQualter], I'm saying get me to Perth. Adam Simpson, who knows what happens there? Or get me to the Whitten Oval.
Landsberger: So, you're trying to get him to where a coach is under pressure?
Ralph: No doubt. That's what a smart manager would do and what a smart coach would do.
https://kayosports.com.au/shows/show-midweek-tackle!136479
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Richmond will make a call on McQualter or Yze next week.
https://www.sen.com.au/news/2023/09/20/cotchin-explains-his-role-in-richmond-coaching-hunt/
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Richmond will make a call on McQualter or Yze next week.
https://www.sen.com.au/news/2023/09/20/cotchin-explains-his-role-in-richmond-coaching-hunt/
Why rush it?
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Richmond will make a call on McQualter or Yze next week.
https://www.sen.com.au/news/2023/09/20/cotchin-explains-his-role-in-richmond-coaching-hunt/
Why rush it?
May as well wait until round 1.
Clearly they know who they want.
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Richmond will make a call on McQualter or Yze next week.
https://www.sen.com.au/news/2023/09/20/cotchin-explains-his-role-in-richmond-coaching-hunt/
Why rush it?
We're not going to play finals next year anyway, so we may as well not have a head coach. Save the $ for the footy trip. Gives us 12 months to make the decision so we definitely know we've made the right choice.
May as well wait until round 1.
Clearly they know who they want.
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Caro is running with Yze
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Tom Browne just now on 7news:
* Announcement expected tomorrow. Club says it is still working on things tonight.
* Both Yze and McQualter camps have told Browne they haven't heard anything yet.
* Browne said he's been told Yze is the frontrunner and he expects Yze to be announced as our new coach tomorrow.
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Gotta say I expected mcqualter. Very interesting
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Here's the 7news report.
#BREAKING: Richmond is set to name its new coach as early as tomorrow.
@TomBrowne7 has the latest developments live as the Tigers are set to appoint Damien Hardwick’s successor. #7news
Watch here: https://twitter.com/7NewsMelbourne/status/1704780258753573272
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Surprised Caro hasn’t come up with the scoop
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It’s Adem. :thumbsup
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Surprised Caro hasn’t come up with the scoop
BREAKING | Caroline Wilson is reporting Adem Yze is the new Richmond coach.
Gerard, Kane and Josh reacting right now.
6:10 PM · Sep 21, 2023
https://twitter.com/SENSportsday/status/1704770165735621101
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Richmond has chosen Adam Yze as the club's next head coach
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https://twitter.com/codeaflau/status/1704786758460903489
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Adem Yze to be the next coach of Richmond
The race for the top job at Tigerland is over, with a famous Dee receiving the happiest of birthday gifts, chosen as the man to lead a new era at Richmond.
Jay Clark and Jon Ralph
HeraldSun
September 21, 2023 - 7:20PM
Richmond has chosen Adem Yze to replace triple premiership coach Damien Hardwick as the Tigers attempt to continue to buck footy’s equalisation methods and remain in the premiership window.
The Tigers on Thursday made their call after days of discussions with Demons assistant coach Yze beating interim coach Andrew McQualter in what was understood to be an impossibly tight call.
It was the perfect birthday gift for Yze who turned 46 on Thursday.
Yze, 46, had impressed in the GWS and Essendon coaching selection races last year and had finished a close second to both Adam Kingsley and Brad Scott.
His highly impressive presentation and strong recent history coaching the Demons backline – including in the 2021 premiership – swayed the Richmond coaching selection panel.
The decision was made more difficult because Richmond was aware that choosing Yze would require McQualter to move on to further his senior coaching aspirations given his determination to win a full-time position.
It is understood former North Melbourne assistant coach Brett Ratten could emerge as a key replacement option for Yze at Melbourne.
With clubs like the Western Bulldogs, Melbourne and North Melbourne having coaching vacancies McQualter will consider his options before moving to a club that can help him realise his dream.
McQualter initially put together a spectacular on field resume with six wins from his first eight games as he seamlessly took over from Hardwick.
While he finished his interim coaching run with four losses from five games, the Tigers had always told him they would not judge him on wins and losses.
Yze, 45, played 271 games for Melbourne as a clever left-footed midfielder and 2002 All Australian before joining the Hawks as a part-time assistant in 2012.
He progressed to backline coach replacing Luke Beveridge in 2014 and quickly built a strong reputation before moving to Melbourne in 2021.
The Demons drought-breaking premiership with Yze as their defensive coach came as he constructed one of the most miserly defensive structures in the modern era.
He said last week he had enjoyed the coaching process given its challenges and opportunities.
“I really enjoyed the processes I went through last year with both clubs and this has been no different. It tests you. It puts you in a scenario and shows your vulnerabilities, and I have really enjoyed the process and am really proud of the way I have presented,” Yze said.
The Tigers coaching panel included external experts including leadership consultant Paddy Steinfort and Melbourne Storm football boss Frank Ponissi.
Both McQualter and Yze made two extensive presentations with Collingwood champion Nathan Buckley and Richmond premiership captain Trent Cotchin in their final discussions with the panel.
The decision came on a day when the Tigers had young Hawthorn forward Jacob Koschitzke commit to the club, pending a trade.
But having handed away their first-round pick in last year’s trade for Jacob Hopper, the Tigers face significant challenges as they attempt to contend in the short-term future.
In the past three seasons the Tigers have won nine and a half games, 13 games (with the dramatic finals loss to Brisbane) and then 10 and a half games this season.
They will not start the 2024 season as a premiership contender given the loss of stars including Jack Riewoldt and Trent Cotchin, with Dustin Martin at the top of his game but turning 33 next year.
They will hope the next generation of talent including Shai Bolton, Noah Balta, Tyler Sonsie, Thomson Dow, Noah Cumberland, Judson Clarke, Sam Banks and Samson Ryan can continue the club’s quest for finals.
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ADEM YZE'S CV
Adem Yze
Age 46
Playing career:
271 games for Melbourne, 234 goals
All-Australian team 2002
Keith ‘Bluey’ Truscott Medal 2001
Harold Ball Memorial Trophy 1995
Rising Star Nominee 1996
Coaching career:
2012 – Joins Hawthorn as a part-time assistant coach
2014 – Replaces Luke Beveridge as Hawks backline coach, eventually becomes in charge of match day strategy and opposition
2020 – Joins Melbourne as assistant coach and in charge of the Demons midfield. Is caretaker coach for a game in 2022, which Melbourne won giving him a 100 per cent record.
Long considered a senior-coach-in-waiting, Yze has had to overcome some hurdles along the way. He has gone for, and missed out on, coaching gigs at Adelaide, Essendon and GWS – finishing in second place in the latter two. As well as being in charge of the Demons’ star-studded midfield, Yze has also been the head of strategy on game day and as part of this he was in constant conversation with senior coach Simon Goodwin from the coaches’ box. The Tigers were wowed by Yze’s detailed presentation handed to them in the pre-finals bye and provides them with the fresh set of eyes potentially needed to lead a new era at Punt Road.
https://www.codesports.com.au/afl/afl-2023-adem-yze-to-be-the-next-coach-of-richmond/news-story/4ad4ad10b7e74216ff3289115629ec9c
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Breaking. Yze is the man at Richmond. Wins the role after being runner up in two coaching races last year. McQualter will leave to further his aspirations elsewhere. An agonisingly close decision. The story from @ClarkyHeraldSun and me. Presser tomorrow.
https://twitter.com/RalphyHeraldSun/status/1704788134406570449
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Officially confirmed by the Club now.
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We are delighted to announce Adem Yze as the Club’s new senior coach.
Welcome, @ooze21 (https://abs-0.twimg.com/emoji/v2/svg/1f91d.svg)
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/F6ihU4tagAAhfEj?format=webp&name=small)
https://twitter.com/Richmond_FC/status/1704790270691405936
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Yze announced as senior coach
richmondfc.com.au
21 September 2023
Richmond is delighted to announce it has appointed Adem Yze as the Club’s new senior coach.
Yze, 46, becomes the Club’s 42nd VFL / AFL senior coach following a rigorous appointment process led by Richmond CEO Brendon Gale.
Richmond president John O’Rourke said the board unanimously accepted the recommendation of the panel, which also included Vice-President Henriette Rothschild, General Manager – Football Performance Tim Livingstone, General Manager – Football Talent Blair Hartley, Football Australia Performance Director Paddy Steinfort and General Manager – Football, Melbourne Storm Frank Ponissi.
“This has been a period of significant change for our Club, but with that comes a great sense of excitement and opportunity. We have no doubt that Adem is the right man to lead us into the future,” Richmond President John O’Rourke said.
“Adem brings an enormous breadth of experience to the Club, having played key coaching roles during highly successful periods at both the Hawthorn and Melbourne football clubs.
“He has a deep understanding of the game and what drives on-field success from a strategic and cultural perspective.
“Adem has great energy and is highly competitive, and during the appointment process, it became increasingly obvious that he was a great fit for our Club. He was the ideal candidate, and we have no doubt our playing group will thrive under his coaching.”
Yze said he was incredibly excited by the opportunity that lies ahead.
“This is a Club steeped in history and blessed with a magnificent supporter base. I feel very humbled to have been given this opportunity,” Yze said.
“I can’t wait to meet the playing group and start building towards the 2024 season.”
In a decorated on-field career, Yze played 271 games for Melbourne, winning the 2001 best and fairest before being named in the All Australian team the following year.
He joined Hawthorn ahead of the 2012 season, working across matchday strategy and opposition, specialist goal-kicking, development, and assistant coaching.
Hawthorn played in the 2012 AFL Grand Final before winning three consecutive premierships between 2013-15 in Yze’s first four seasons with the Club.
Yze returned to Melbourne in October 2020, with the Demons breaking a 57-year VFL/AFL premiership drought in 2021, his first season as a key part of their coaching setup. He has remained influential as the Club has finished in the top four the past two seasons.
Beyond this, Yze has mentored emerging Islamic coaches through the Bachar Houli Foundation, a key pillar of Richmond Football Club’s community programming.
O’Rourke thanked all those who had taken part in the coaching process.
“I would particularly like to acknowledge Andrew McQualter, who is a wonderful person and coach,” O’Rourke said.
“He presented well during the process and demonstrated he is a senior coach of the future.
“Andrew took the selfless decision to take on the interim role when Damien Hardwick left the Club, and he has handled himself with confidence and class. He continued to impress during the interview process, and I have no doubt he will be a future AFL coach.”
(https://resources.richmondfc.com.au/photo-resources/2023/09/21/b057ad29-bca5-46ce-a2d5-40419bc9fc85/AdemYze-0184.jpg?width=1064&height=600)
https://www.richmondfc.com.au/news/1436090/yze-announced-as-senior-coach
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Excited to see how he speaks and deals with the media, can’t be worse than dimma.
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👏👏👏
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Are we expecting assistant coach changes ?
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Wonderful news. Well done Tigers.
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Are we expecting assistant coach changes ?
I bloody hope so
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Are we expecting assistant coach changes ?
I bloody hope so
You can bet on it.
Not sure if Mini would stay in these circumstances
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Was worried we would keep looking within, when it was clearly time to start looking outside the 4 walls.
Weather he is a success or not, looking outside was the right thing to do.
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Are we expecting assistant coach changes ?
I bloody hope so
You can bet on it.
Not sure if Mini would stay in these circumstances
Mini has said that if he didn't get the gig he would not stay, not fair in the incoming coach.
And I know folks won't like hearing this but I doubt there will be many changes in the short term
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Are we expecting assistant coach changes ?
I bloody hope so
You can bet on it.
Not sure if Mini would stay in these circumstances
Mini has said that if he didn't get the gig he would not stay, not fair in the incoming coach.
And I know folks won't like hearing this but I doubt there will be many changes in the short term
Wasn't there talk about X Clarke being chased by the Roos If so there'll be at least 2 changes.
I'd be very happy for Lambo to take over from Morris as VFL coach.
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Club video:
(http://oneeyed-richmond.com/images/coaches/YzeRFCappointmentvideo.png) (https://twitter.com/Richmond_FC/status/1704791679822377364)
https://twitter.com/Richmond_FC/status/1704791679822377364
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Brereton on AFL360 said Yze from his time as an assistant coach at Hawthorn is rated tactically as brilliant as you can be.
https://twitter.com/FOXFOOTY/status/1704791860433072223
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The Top G from Sicily wrong again. :shh
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Pumped about the appointment. We need a change both on the ground and in the sheds and i should think the young players should be excited about this appointment.
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Hope he wears his trademark glove on match day.
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I'd be very happy for Lambo to take over from Morris as VFL coach.
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Yep, I'd be rapt to see that happen
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Adem Yze appointed new coach of Richmond
Michael Gleeson
The Age
September 21, 2023 — 8.40pm
Former Melbourne star and respected assistant coach Adem Yze has been appointed the new coach of Richmond.
The Richmond board met on Thursday afternoon and ratified Yze as the new coach of the Tigers to replace Damien Hardwick, who quit mid-season and has now been appointed the new coach of the Gold Coast Suns. A press conference to announce Yze’s appointment will be held on Friday.
The club confirmed the decision on social media on Thursday night.
After a long process the final decision was down to a choice between caretaker coach and popular long-term Richmond assistant coach Andrew McQualter and former Melbourne player, Hawthorn assistant coach and current Demons assistant coach Yze.
“Tactically he is as good as I have seen. He sees it really well, he sees what is unfolding before others,” said a former colleague said of Yze. The person worked with Yze in the Hawks coach’s box but did not wish to be named as he works at a rival club.
The length of time it has taken to make the appointment - Hardwick quit the Tigers on May 22 - was latterly slightly complicated by Melbourne’s involvement in the finals.
Yze had been due to have his final interview with the coaching selection panel on Friday and McQualter on Monday with a board meeting on Tuesday night scheduled to make the decision.
With Melbourne playing in a semi-final on Friday night it was agreed it was inappropriate for Yze to be distracted by meeting with Richmond and his interview was postponed to Tuesday. There was insufficient time to digest the final interviews and make a recommendation to the board in time for Tuesday night’s meeting.
The panel made a recommendation to the board on Thursday.
The choice was between McQualter whom the club knew well and represented essentially a continuance of the same football program that the club has been happy with and Yze who is vastly experienced having been an assistant coach at Hawthorn under Alastair Clarkson before returning to Melbourne to work with Simon Goodwin.
Yze offered the attraction of adding a freshness and new ideas to the football program. He is considered to be tactically astute and has run the coaches box for Melbourne, with Simon Goodwin coaching from the boundary.
Both men’s resumes included involvement in extremely successful programs. Yze was at Hawthorn initially as a development coach and then a line coach and was at the club through the three-peat of flags in 2013-15 before moving to the Demons. He was at Melbourne for the drought-breaking flag in 2021.
McQualter who played at St Kilda during their run of grand final appearances was an assistant to Hardwick for Richmond’s three recent flags.
Richmond’s coaching selection panel comprised ceo Brendon Gale, vice president Henriette Rothschild, general manager of football performance Tim Livingstone and general manager of football talent Blair Hartley, former player Paddy Steinfort and Melbourne Storm football operations boss Frank Ponissi.
Steinfort spent five years at Richmond and is Football Australia’s football director after stints at several North American sports organisations, including the Boston Red Sox, Philadelphia 76ers, Toronto Blue Jays and Philadelphia Eagles.
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ADEM YZE
Only three players have played more senior games for Melbourne than the skillful Yze. An exquisite user of the ball, he was given some credit for the precise foot skills that underpinned Hawthorn's flag threepeat. His return to Melbourne coincided with the club breaking its premiership drought, meaning his name automatically became linked to any senior coaching vacancy. Vied for the GWS and Essendon jobs this time last year, but now gets his chance after a thorough apprenticeship.
Age: 46
Playing career: 271 games for Melbourne, 1995-2008
Playing honours: Melbourne b&f 2001, All-Australian 2002. MFC life member.
Coaching experience: Hawthorn assistant 2012-20. Melbourne senior assistant 2021-23.
Premierships: Assistant coach at Hawthorn 2013, '14, '15 and Melbourne 2021.
https://www.theage.com.au/sport/afl/adem-yze-appointed-new-coach-of-richmond-20230921-p5e6hn.html
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Been in the game for a long time.
Seen 4 flags at 2 clubs while assistant coach.
In charge of the best midfield in the competition.
Feels like a good call.
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From bridesmaid (twice) last year to a beaming birthday. Adem Yze turned 46 today :birthday, and he has just unwrapped the biggest gift of his life. Insiders at the Demons suspected after Yze’s pre-finals bye interview that he was bound for Punt Rd.
https://twitter.com/SamLandsberger/status/1704791353677451438
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The last time @Richmond_FC appointed an untried senior coach who missed out on the Essendon gig it worked out reasonably well. Here's hoping that Adem Yze has similar success.
https://twitter.com/P_T_Ager/status/1704796681211146517
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Don't know about the rest of you but for me something feels absolutely right about this decision. Feel good about it, good vibes
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I'm kinda pumped with this news! :cheers
Oooze is the news!
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Very happy with the selection! We absolutely needed a new voice.
Now for the assistants? Looks like it's slim pickings out there, so I hope Yze has a plan to bring in some of his own men.
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So how long of a honeymoon period before sack Yze threads are allowed to appear?
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So how long of a honeymoon period before sack Yze threads are allowed to appear?
I’ll start one.
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So how long of a honeymoon period before sack Yze threads are allowed to appear?
As soon as people's favourite whipping boys get selected ;D
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FHO !!😜
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Yep standards have dropped bigtime skills, kicking, discipline needs to start there a few players gone slack to.
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Any idea what happens with Mini. Personally think it'd be awkward for Yze to come work for the guy who was in charge for 6 months, failed to get the job now works under him.
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Took a while but I believe that Yze is the right choice great work Richmond. :clapping :clapping :clapping
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Any idea what happens with Mini. Personally think it'd be awkward for Yze to come work for the guy who was in charge for 6 months, failed to get the job now works under him.
Mini will join Lyon at St Kilda, watch this space… ;)
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The Demons congratulated Yze on his appointment at Punt Road.
Melbourne general manager of AFL football performance Alan Richardson said Yze had “a profound impact” on the club during his time at the Demons.
“Adem has had a significant impact on our football program since joining the club three years ago,” Richardson said.
“His ability to read the game and the direction he was able to provide our players and coaches was first class, and we are thrilled to see him get this opportunity.
“On behalf of everyone at the club, we would like to wish Adem and his family all the very best for the future.”
https://www.codesports.com.au/afl/afl-2023-adem-yze-to-be-the-next-coach-of-richmond/news-story/4ad4ad10b7e74216ff3289115629ec9c
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Remember Yze as a good player- a clever player. I think it is a bonus he was an assistant under Clarkson. I think it was the right decision to get an outsider.
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Will give him some time to settle but the real change is needed with our list and assistant coaches imo. Keen to see who will want to jump on board now
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Any idea what happens with Mini. Personally think it'd be awkward for Yze to come work for the guy who was in charge for 6 months, failed to get the job now works under him.
He said at his final pre match presser I think it was that if he didn't get the gig he wouldn't stay as it would be unfair on the person coming initially he did (posted this a few posts back BTW).
Say what you like shout him as a coach but he's carried himself with class all the way through IMHO
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Remember Yze as a good player- a clever player. I think it is a bonus he was an assistant under Clarkson. I think it was the right decision to get an outsider.
He was the Albanian Mattie Knights, one sided, classy but ultimately an offensive weapon for his team.
Knighter coached as his played, let’s hope Yze doesn’t fall for the same 2 card trick.
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By the sounds of it he’s tactically brilliant so the only questions have been about his persona as a coach. He comes across as a caring and endearing person… can’t wait to see more.
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Mini must be gutted, but I think we need a new message and assistant cleanout
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Any idea what happens with Mini. Personally think it'd be awkward for Yze to come work for the guy who was in charge for 6 months, failed to get the job now works under him.
He said at his final pre match presser I think it was that if he didn't get the gig he wouldn't stay as it would be unfair on the person coming initially he did (posted this a few posts back BTW).
Say what you like shout him as a coach but he's carried himself with class all the way through IMHO
Been fantastic. Just read he will depart the club.
Integral to our success, will no doubt be successful elsewhere but I believe we made the right call as a new voice and era begins. All the best Mini.
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From Barrett's 'Sliding Doors' column:
IF ...
Kate Bush and Peter Gabriel once combined to turn a particular song into a chart-topping success ...
THEN ...
Adem Yze may have embraced it as his motivation. After 43 second placings - well, maybe not that many, but a lot - he's secured a senior coaching gig. Yes, I know the lyrics don't quite line up with his story. But the title does, and I love his refusal to stop trying. Don't Give Up.
https://www.afl.com.au/news/1036163/sliding-doors
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Richmond's new senior coach Adem Yze will speak to the media, alongside CEO Brendon Gale and President John O’Rourke, from approximately 10.30am today.
Live stream here: https://www.richmondfc.com.au/news/1436129/yze-press-conference-live
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Richmond's new senior coach Adem Yze will speak to the media, alongside CEO Brendon Gale and President John O’Rourke, from approximately 10.30am today.
Live stream here: https://www.richmondfc.com.au/news/1436129/yze-press-conference-live
Starting now.
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He has a good sense of humour
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Sounds like there will be some new assistant coaches. Spoke fondly about Ratten. Worked with newman at hawks too.. wonder if he will jump on board as an assistant.
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Watching that press conference - Adem looks so much like Tom Hafey in the face . Once you see it you can’t unsee it 😂
Very impressive- to live in the past you die in the present ❤️
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Are there any details around how long hes actually signed on for ? Would be an indicator of the clubs confidence
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Interesting that Yze said he'd be happy if Mini stays as his right-hand man. The Club though is giving Mini space for a few days as he would obviously be disappointed in missing out.
Yze also talked about Brett Ratten as the two are close. All depends on what positions need to be filled.
No talk though of us taking a step back in 2024. Not putting a ceiling on next year.
Yze said he's big on clarity of roles and how he wants the team to play.
He also mentioned he was at Hawthorn when Koschitzke arrived at the Hawks.
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Is a replay of the media conferecne available.
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From Barrett's 'Sliding Doors' column:
IF ...
Kate Bush and Peter Gabriel once combined to turn a particular song into a chart-topping success ...
THEN ...
Adem Yze may have embraced it as his motivation. After 43 second placings - well, maybe not that many, but a lot - he's secured a senior coaching gig. Yes, I know the lyrics don't quite line up with his story. But the title does, and I love his refusal to stop trying. Don't Give Up.
https://www.afl.com.au/news/1036163/sliding-doors
That makes absolutely no sense. Yes these sliding door things usually don't make sense but this has to be the worse one he has ever done.
Maybe time for break
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YZE KEEPS RICHMOND DOOR OPEN FOR MCQUALTER, CONSIDERS ASSISTANTS AND OFFERS INSIGHT INTO COACHING PHILOSOPHY
Andrew Slevison
SEN
22 September 2023
New Richmond coach Adem Yze has kept the door open for unsuccessful candidate Andrew McQualter to remain at the club.
On Thursday night, on his 46th birthday, Yze was appointed as the Tigers’ new senior coach after a rigorous process.
The now former Melbourne assistant was preferred to McQualter, who undertook the interim coaching role in the wake of Damien Hardwick’s mid-season departure.
But McQualter’s days as a Tiger are not over, provided he wants to remain and not pursue a job elsewhere having missed out on the main role at Punt Road.
“If he stays I’d love him to stay,” he said at his press conference.
“He’s created some strong relationships, he understands the place, so I’d have no issue with him staying around and being my right-hand man.
“But if he does move on - we’ll find that out in the next few days - he’ll go with our blessing and I’ll try to fill that spot.”
Yze will now assemble his team of assistants whether they be currently at Richmond or from rival clubs.
He admits he’ll call on former Carlton, St Kilda and North Melbourne (caretaker) coach Brett Ratten who he considers a mentor having worked closely together during Hawthorn’s successful era.
“I’ve got some ideas of the people I might try and bring in, but right now we’ve got an amazing staff, we’ve got some really strong line coaches that have already created a foundation and relationships that I don’t want to break,” Yze continued.
“We’ll work that through that in the next couple of days.
“‘Ratts’ is a mentor of mine, so I’ll give him a call, but we’re just trying to work through what spots we need to fill.
“If there is an opportunity (with Ratten) then there’s a possibility. He’ll be one that I will talk to.”
The former Melbourne star, who played 271 games for the Demons, narrowly missed out on both the Essendon and GWS jobs in 2022 but was not deterred to apply for another senior gig.
“I really enjoyed the process going for two jobs at two good footy clubs,” he said.
“I was really disappointed to miss out but proud of the way I presented. In the end, for me, it was just hoping that there would be another opportunity pop up.
“When an opportunity (came) to coach a big footy club like Richmond footy club, I jumped at it. I was ecstatic when I found out.”
He continued: “It’s a hard one. You start to second guess yourself on whether you should keep going for them, you don’t want to miss too many (jobs).
“I just didn’t want to pass up another opportunity to go to a stable footy club, a really powerful footy club.”
Yze also provided some insight into the way he wants his playing group to perform on the field after making what he describes as a “natural progression” to senior coaching ranks.
The new-school mentality surrounding connection will be key as he goes about endearing himself to the playing group.
“My whole theory around my coaching philosophy is around clarity and connection,” Yze added.
“So they (the players) will be really clear in the way that we play and hopefully they realise how caring I am for our players. I love relationship building, I love connecting with the players, I can’t wait until they get back from Thailand to meet the boys.
“I think I’d be the best coach ever if I rocked up in Thailand and said hello. But that side of it, I can’t wait to meet them and I can’t wait to teach them.
(A trip to Thailand is not actually on the cards).
“The last two really strong footy clubs that I’ve been involved in, the roles I’ve had I’ve felt like I was in the passenger seat.
“The last three years at Melbourne I feel like I’ve been in the driver’s seat on game day. A lot of the roles that I’ve had at both footy clubs have had a lot of responsibility in the way that way play so I feel like the natural progression is senior coach.
“I’m hoping to bring the knowledge and experience of what I’ve learnt over the last few years at two strong footy clubs and bring my slant on the way I think we should play.
“Hopefully we can bounce back really quickly.”
And one of the joys of taking the Richmond role will be getting the chance to coach club great Dustin Martin.
“I can’t wait to work with him,” he said of Martin.
“He’s an amazing player, an amazing person, an amazing Richmond man. To be at the footy club when he plays his 300th game is going to be an amazing opportunity for me.
“He had a terrific season and I can see, not only next year, but a fair few solid years out of ‘Dusty’.
“I’m hoping I can help deliver that with a nice clear role for him and have some impact on games like he normally does.”
A recurring theme from Yze’s press conference was surrounding the opportunity for the youth at the club to really step up now that a number of experienced players, including Trent Cotchin and Jack Riewoldt, have retired.
https://www.sen.com.au/news/2023/09/22/yze-keeps-richmond-door-open-for-mcqualter-considers-assistants-and-offers/
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Watching that press conference - Adem looks so much like Tom Hafey in the face . Once you see it you can’t unsee it 😂
Very impressive- to live in the past you die in the present ❤️
And like Tiger Tom he's from Shepp.
Like all the others I like what I'm hearing.
Clear roles, communication, respectful (to McQualter, Hawthorn and Melbourne, Dusty, Trent and Jack), looking to the kids to improve us.
Also liked the way he talked about recruitment - that we have a good team but he will offer some input.
Emphasis on strategy is also a great plus.
Very classy first interview.
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Gale gave a bit of swipe to Dimma saying last 3 years haven't been acceptable and standards dropped and not involved enough.
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Is a replay of the media conferecne available.
Yes on the Club website
https://www.richmondfc.com.au/video/1436217/its-an-amazing-feeling-cant-wait-to-get-started-yze?videoId=1436217&modal=true&type=video&publishFrom=1695349583001
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Yze's first task in preseason is a back to basics on the defensive side of our gamestyle. A heavy focus on tackling and fixing our poor tackling techniques. Re-teaching our blokes to protect the defensive side at stoppages with numbers, don't allow the ball over the back from opposition down the line kicks, and for our smalls and mids to be front and square at contests especially to our tall forwards. If you can't do the basics right and consistently then you've got no chance of being successful.
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I agree with all you say mightytiges but for me even before all you list is to stamp his style of play on the players
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I’ve never heard the word “um” used so often in one media session
Does seem like a really good bloke though .. hopefully he’s the right man for the job
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THE KEY FACTOR THAT WON YZE RICHMOND JOB OVER MCQUALTER
Seb Mottram
SEN
22 September 2023
Adem Yze’s selection as Richmond’s new coach was primarily a decision to bring a new figure into Punt Road.
That’s the revelation from Frank Ponissi, who played a role in the Tigers’ coaching search and suggested Andrew McQualter's position counted against him.
Ponissi, Melbourne Storm’s footy boss, was one of more than half a dozen names on Richmond’s coaching selection panel. He was joined by CEO Brendon Gale, vice president Henriette Rothschild and footy managers Tim Livingstone and Blair Hartley, while Football Australia director Paddy Steinfort was the other external candidate.
Nathan Buckley and Trent Cotchin joined the panel this week.
Yze was unveiled on Thursday night after he and McQualter emerged as the front runners last week and Ponissi paid credit to both candidates.
“I thought it was an outstanding process... it came down to two high quality candidates and look, it could have gone either way,” he told SEN’s Dwayne’s World.
“But I think the decision to go with Adem, a bit of a fresh start was probably the difference but it certainly wouldn’t have been a surprise if Andrew (got it), who I think will be a head coach sometime somewhere.”
Yze will cross from Melbourne, where he has been a senior assistant since 2020, to take up the role at Richmond.
He fell just short in processes for the GWS and Essendon jobs last year but has been given his first opportunity by the Tigers.
McQualter succeeded Damien Hardwick earlier this year and enjoyed a wave of support early in his tenure before Richmond fell away late in the year.
Caretaker coaches don’t have a good record as full-time coaches in recent years, as evidenced by David Teague and Brett Ratten, a fact that may have counted against McQualter.
“I think the fact that Adem, that’s he probably new was a big one to bring in some fresh changes the club was looking for… there were probably some other key little ones as well,” Ponissi added.
“But there really wasn’t too much between the two, that fresh change might have been the difference between Adem and Andrew.
“They both possess a lot of similar strengths and both could have done the job without any doubt.”
With Melbourne’s season ending last week, Yze is free to start at Richmond straight away.
https://www.sen.com.au/news/2023/09/22/the-key-factor-that-won-yze-richmond-job-over-mcqualter/
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Are there any details around how long hes actually signed on for ? Would be an indicator of the clubs confidence
It's for 3 years.
Source: https://twitter.com/7NewsMelbourne/status/1705135260248531431
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I’ve never heard the word “um” used so often in one media session
Does seem like a really good bloke though .. hopefully he’s the right man for the job
Close to 100 Damo :lol
says the right things though. Just hope he has defensive attributes as we have been terrible in this department for 3 years now.
The standards have dropped, on and OFF the field Benny has confirmed this. :shh
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I think the most interesting thing about that interview were the words of Benny Gale about how our game style had fallen away so dramatically.
Me thinks had Dimma stayed there would have been some serious questions asked of him.
Always better to leave when you can feel the hands of your bosses hand on your back. ;D
Beyond that, I like the idea of Mini staying - can support Ooze in holding together what has worked for us while learning and growing under him areas that are/were working well at Dees and Hawks.
Every other job should be up for grabs. I did not like the sound of him keeping the other assistants.
To me, they are part of the problem.
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I think the most interesting thing about that interview were the words of Benny Gale about how our game style had fallen away so dramatically.
Me thinks had Dimma stayed there would have been some serious questions asked of him.
Always better to leave when you can feel the hands of your bosses hand on your back. ;D
Beyond that, I like the idea of Mini staying - can support Ooze in holding together what has worked for us while learning and growing under him areas that are/were working well at Dees and Hawks.
Every other job should be up for grabs. I did not like the sound of him keeping the other assistants.
To me, they are part of the problem.
Let's wait and see what happens in the next few weeks
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Nathan Buckley reveals his observations as to why Adem Yze won the Tigers coaching job.
Watch here: https://twitter.com/FOXFOOTY/status/1705146543936876738
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https://player.fm/series/series-2343030/finals-week-3-adem-yze-on-afl-nation
Interesting he thinks our forward pressure has dropped since 2018....so basically after the first flag.... :shh
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https://player.fm/series/series-2343030/finals-week-3-adem-yze-on-afl-nation
Interesting he thinks our forward pressure has dropped since 2018....so basically after the first flag.... :shh
I found that interesting too.. I wondered if he meant 2019… but by the sounds of things he knows his stuff and his presentation was too notch so I don’t think he would be mistaken.
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A message to the Tiger Army from @ooze21.
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/F6vj_RCagAAYuCF?format=webp&name=900x900)
https://twitter.com/Richmond_FC/status/1705707564879708515
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A message to the Tiger Army from @ooze21.
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/F6vj_RCagAAYuCF?format=webp&name=900x900)
https://twitter.com/Richmond_FC/status/1705707564879708515
That’s pretty much all you can ask for
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If you can deliver it.
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Yze's first task in preseason is a back to basics on the defensive side of our gamestyle. A heavy focus on tackling and fixing our poor tackling techniques. Re-teaching our blokes to protect the defensive side at stoppages with numbers, don't allow the ball over the back from opposition down the line kicks, and for our smalls and mids to be front and square at contests especially to our tall forwards. If you can't do the basics right and consistently then you've got no chance of being successful.
Top post MT. One of your best. :clapping :clapping
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I’ve never heard the word “um” used so often in one media session
Does seem like a really good bloke though .. hopefully he’s the right man for the job
Did you ever watch countdown?
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I’ve never heard the word “um” used so often in one media session
Does seem like a really good bloke though .. hopefully he’s the right man for the job
Did you ever watch countdown?
Umm yeah umm I umm did umm why?
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Molly's classic interview with Prince Charles. :P
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Anyone know if the soft cap has gone back to pre covid levels? Did the salary cap drop?
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Jordan Lewis believes Adem Yze is an ideal appointment for Richmond as its new senior coach
Four-time Hawthorn premiership star Jordan Lewis believes Adem Yze is an ideal appointment for Richmond as its new senior coach to replace Damien Hardwick.
Yze was involved in three premierships with the Hawks as an assistant coach to Alastair Clarkson and Lewis had a close-up look at how impressively he performed in that role.
“He understands the game, and the way the trends that are unfolding within a game, better than anyone that I’ve come across, especially on game day where it’s at its most frantic. He makes really good decisions,” Lewis said on Fox Footy.
“I can remember sitting in the box and going, ‘Yeah, that was well picked up’.”
Lewis also was a member of the panel that interviewed Yze for the Essendon coaching job at the end of the 2022 season.
“He presented with great confidence and that just comes through years in the coaches’ box and overseeing programs,” Lewis said.
“People have made mention that this was his third or fourth time (going for a senior AFL coaching role). From what we witnessed with the presentation at Essendon, that was a culmination of going through the process and refining it and fixing the parts you might have needed to work on.
“He came across with great confidence and great surety that he’s got belief in himself as a coach.
“He’s at the age now where he’s got great experience, great stability off the field with family and work-life balance, and that gives you the opportunity to approach the job with great clarity.
“He’s one of those guys that you’d be happy to call up and have a beer with, if it’s one-out or in a group situation . . .
“That’s the thing that stands out for me, the relationships. And we know how important that is in the modern game with the modern players.
“He’s got great energy, he’s just genuine in everything that he does.
“So pleased for him. He’s been in for a few jobs, but it’s nice to land a big one in Richmond.”
https://www.richmondfc.com.au/news/1439730/hawk-greats-glowing-praise-for-yze
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Anyone know if the soft cap has gone back to pre covid levels? Did the salary cap drop?
Soft cap has not gone back to pre COVID levels and the league appears to have no intention of adjusting it back to those levels.
It will likely raise by another $500k-$600k for 2024
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Anyone know if the soft cap has gone back to pre covid levels? Did the salary cap drop?
Soft cap has not gone back to pre COVID levels and the league appears to have no intention of adjusting it back to those levels.
It will likely raise by another $500k-$600k for 2024
They clearly think it was a disadvantage to the pov clubs so are using it as equalisation.
IMO instead of more draft picks they should be giving the weaker clubs higher soft caps and TPP adjusted depending on their finishing position.
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Anyone know if the soft cap has gone back to pre covid levels? Did the salary cap drop?
Soft cap has not gone back to pre COVID levels and the league appears to have no intention of adjusting it back to those levels.
It will likely raise by another $500k-$600k for 2024
Can't eat into THE AFLs executive bonus pool
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Anyone know his thoughts on playing taggers? :shh
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Anyone know his thoughts on playing taggers? :shh
There is actually a great 2 page spread (interview) in yesterday's HUN by Jon Ralph where Yze gives his thoughts on a number of things
Also very good news about Tom Lynch and Gibcus. Gibcus has been sent overseas by (heaven forbid) our fitness and medicos to do a specialised training program to strengthen his dodgy hammy :clapping
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Anyone know his thoughts on playing taggers? :shh
There is actually a great 2 page spread (interview) in yesterday's HUN by Jon Ralph where Yze gives his thoughts on a number of things
Also very good news about Tom Lynch and Gibcus. Gibcus has been sent overseas by (heaven forbid) our fitness and medicos to do a specialised training program to strengthen his dodgy hammy :clapping
Hopefully that includes calf blood injections and some untraceable HGH so he comes back 196/100 haha.
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Anyone know his thoughts on playing taggers? :shh
There is actually a great 2 page spread (interview) in yesterday's HUN by Jon Ralph where Yze gives his thoughts on a number of things
Also very good news about Tom Lynch and Gibcus. Gibcus has been sent overseas by (heaven forbid) our fitness and medicos to do a specialised training program to strengthen his dodgy hammy :clapping
Just seen it posted on another board - reading it now. :shh
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Anyone know his thoughts on playing taggers? :shh
There is actually a great 2 page spread (interview) in yesterday's HUN by Jon Ralph where Yze gives his thoughts on a number of things
Also very good news about Tom Lynch and Gibcus. Gibcus has been sent overseas by (heaven forbid) our fitness and medicos to do a specialised training program to strengthen his dodgy hammy :clapping
Just seen it posted on another board - reading it now. :shh
I believe it is behind their pay wall
Actually bought the paper yesterday :rollin
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Anyone know his thoughts on playing taggers? :shh
There is actually a great 2 page spread (interview) in yesterday's HUN by Jon Ralph where Yze gives his thoughts on a number of things
Also very good news about Tom Lynch and Gibcus. Gibcus has been sent overseas by (heaven forbid) our fitness and medicos to do a specialised training program to strengthen his dodgy hammy :clapping
Just seen it posted on another board - reading it now. :shh
I believe it is behind their pay wall
Actually bought the paper yesterday :rollin
Well "GoTigers2015" has somehow got around it because it's all here in full:
https://www.bigfooty.com/forum/threads/welcome-to-richmond-adem-yze.1370996/page-38#post-81234950
:shh
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No mention of taggers in that article btw - guess we'll just have to wait and see... :shh
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Richmond Tigers coach Adem Yze talks connection with Neale Daniher, the big issues at Tigerland
Adem Yze beat out interim Richmond coach Andrew McQaulter for the top job at Tigerland, but what will he bring to Richmond as a coach? Yze sits down with Jon Ralph.
Jon Ralph
HeraldSun
September 26, 2023
What could have been the most humbling moment of Adem Yze’s career became a window into the coaching “genius” of an AFL luminary.
The silky Melbourne left-footer was 18 games short of Jim Stynes’ cherished record of 244 consecutive games when coach Neale Daniher dropped the hammer on him.
He snapped Yze’s 11-year streak of 226 straight matches in round 2, 2007, denying the 29-year-old a chance at history.
It is the day after Yze has been appointed Richmond’s 42nd VFL-AFL coach and as he drives into the Tigers AFLW game he is asked to reflect on that decision from a coaching perspective.
As it turns out, Daniher had perfectly read the moment in the same way Yze would hope he can in his new Richmond tenure.
“I had an amazing relationship with Neale. It was after round 1 and there was the possibility I could pass Jimmy’s record that year,” Yze tells this masthead.
“I would go in for a routine post-game meeting and at the end of that meeting there was something in the paper about the pressure and whether I would make it to the milestone.
“He asked about the pressure. I was adamant I didn’t care about the milestone.
“And he said we have to make sure it’s not impacting your form. Your teammates need to make sure you are playing for them and not that milestone.
“And I said if that’s the case I would rather not play. Let‘s break it. If I don’t play hard enough it’s because I haven’t played hard enough.”
The pair reconvened over a coffee catch-up later that week and Daniher’s mind was made up.
“He said I am going to release that pressure and take away all the anxiety and outside noise. We won’t play you this week and we can bring you in next week and get our season going. “So he did it for me. It was awesome. (The milestone) wasn’t a goal of mine.
“I look at that and think, “If I was a coach and I showed that much care … even though it looked like he dropped me, he was doing it for my form and almost for my own wellbeing. I don’t hold any grudges. It’s the genius of Neale. He was a hard man but a really smart man and a caring man. I hope I can have an impact like that on some of my players.”
Yze is finally in the driver’s seat at Richmond – beating out interim coach Andrew McQualter – in part because can build those relationships like Daniher.
He cannot wait, even if the stresses of coaching are always close by.
The string of sleepless nights analysing Melbourne’s semi-final loss were instantly replaced by lying wide awake pondering his new Tigers role.
The mood for change at Punt Road is obvious after three seasons without a finals victory, Yze tapping into it as he told the selection panel: “If you get stuck in the past, you die in the present’.
But the challenges are obvious.
The club’s one true superstar in Dustin Martin is 32, bookends Tom Lynch and Josh Gibcus spent the 2023 season sidelined and Richmond titans Jack Riewoldt and Trent Cotchin retired weeks ago.
There is a vast talent and leadership drain from the 2020 premiership side.
And yet in this list Yze sees vast promise, even if he concedes the Tigers need a dash of luck” when they continue what he calls a list “regeneration”.
STYLE OF PLAY
“My philosophy is around coaching the player first. Around clarity and connection. You try to coach their heads and hearts, but it’s about contest and defence,” Yze says.
“My philosophy is based around being stable and strong in the contest and letting your offence come off the back of that.”
Yze took his son Noah to Friday night’s preliminary final – great mate and potential coaching recruit Brett Ratten was sitting only 10 metres away – and basked in the spectacle.
(He learnt from Alastair Clarkson footy clubs must remain family friendly, with Yze’s daughter Jasmine growing up playing footy with new Hawks star Jasmine Fleming).
But he also says it was instructive that both clubs kept in the match despite a dour offensively poor game because of their strong defence and contest.
Yze has surely drilled into the stats around Richmond’s mediocre season.
But to the eye the most alarming aspect of the season was the total lack of pressure around the ball.
The club’s DNA – insane pressure at the ball carrier – had evaporated.
Yze doesn’t disagree.
“Yes, but to be fair when you have had success you feel everyone is chasing you so you think you have to tweak your game plan. Richmond in the flag era was easy to scout but hard to beat. So it’s not about trying to create new tricks and new game plans,” he says.
“It’s upskilling players who can get better at those roles in that system. (Richmond) went away from that because they were getting chased (tactically) and they were getting their game plan pulled apart. That’s only my opinion. But I have a clear focus on getting the boys re-energised, which is exciting.”
THE BOOKENDS
Yze didn’t waste any time asking the club’s fitness staff about the availability of the big bloke in the No. 19 jumper.
The good news for Richmond fans is after twin surgeries on his broken metatarsal Tom Lynch has turned the corner.
“It was the first question I asked in the meeting yesterday before the press conference.
Not only is a great player, he is a terrific leader around the club and he can help the young forwards,” Yze says.
“Hearing those words yesterday that he’s progressing really well and out of a (moon) boot and should be ready to get into the pre-season, it’s awesome.
“I flicked him a message yesterday once I heard that. I’m really excited that he’s on the mend but also the impact he can have on the young boys.”
After a wildly exciting 18-game debut season No. 9 draft pick Josh Gibcus tore his hamstring tendon, with a reinfection ending his season before it started.
But Yze says he is off to Dubai to finetune his body with a training program that prioritises injury prevention.
“He is on a program where everything is tracking really nicely,” he says.
“They will even send him overseas to see the experts over there to set a really clear plan for next year. It’s awesome. He’s going over to Dubai. Strong footy clubs look at all avenues. He is progressing nicely and touch wood he shouldn’t miss any of our pre-season. It’s about giving him the best chance to strengthen (his hamstrings) and not go through this again.”
Richmond is attempting to circumvent equalisation policies in the same manner as Geelong – compete endlessly rather than rebuild.
Yet Geelong had Joel Selwood and Tom Hawkins as constants, then brought in the generational midfielder Patrick Dangerfield, then the brilliant free agent Jeremy Cameron.
Geelong are the exception, not the rule, which is why Yze acknowledges the Tigers will need luck in coming years with injury to pull off his mission of bouncing back into the top four.
“If you are in a regeneration phase which we are – and the process was started 18 months ago – you need to give them a clear focus but you need a lot of luck with injuries,” he says.
“GWS had zero injuries at the right time of the year. At Melbourne we started getting injuries to critical players at the wrong time of the year. Tom Lynch and Josh Gibcus were the full back and full forward. So it’s not to say we can’t win, it’s just that if we have everyone available we will be really exciting and hard to play against. But we just need some luck with injuries when we are going through this process. Touch wood we get the best of both.’’
THE CHAMPION
Yze won’t try to change Dustin Martin, but he will ask even more from him at a club that can no longer count on Riewoldt and Cotchin’s sage counsel or on-ground instruction.
He says he will have succeeded if Martin remains a one-club player because he will have created an atmosphere mixing enjoyment and high performance.
He has coached the champions before, with Lance Franklin similar to Martin in his love of the game, his reclusive media nature and his capacity to take the kids under his wing.
Richmond is keen to extend Martin’s deal past next year in an environment where he clearly looked around at clubs including Gold Coast before staying put. Yze said he would love to give Martin the chance to win a fourth premiership but even if he doesn’t there the new Tigers coach believes the triple Norm Smith Medallist has so much to give.
“He was almost one of the first players to send me a message to wish me all the best. He’s an amazing talent and I have some real empathy around Dusty with how big he is in the AFL industry. Coaching Lance Franklin (at Hawthorn) was similar. I have some clarity on how to coach those boys who are under pressure with all the external pressure based on who they are.
“Make it a fun environment to come into in our footy club and that should hopefully be a release for them when they come into our doors.
“Dusty is a Richmond man …. If he could finish his career here. To be fair I will be trying to win some more silverware for him and that would be an amazing way to go out. But if that doesn’t happen, if can go and help Jack Ross become a better player and hand over the baton to Shai Bolton and allow these guys to take the club forward.
“I will be hoping we not only see him next year but for a few more years after that as well.”
Yze said the selfless nature of Luke Breust’s decision to knock back rival offers including GWS after three premierships showed how satisfying remaining at a club in transition can be.
“He’s not the same type of player but I am really close with Luke Breust and he had a decision to make on whether he left the Hawthorn footy club and finish his career somewhere else. But he decided to stay because of his legacy and he wanted to impart his knowledge onto players. I find the humility around that amazing.”
ON THE TOOLS
In an era when senior coaches can become almost EPL-style managers, Yze says it is critical he gets his hands dirty working one-on-one with players.
Tim Taranto and Shai Bolton shared 1160 possessions and 50 goals between them in 2023 so they are not the problem, but both kicked the ball poorly once more.
“I love the art of kicking,” says Yze.
“In my first year I grabbed ‘Trac’ (Christian Petracca) and on our day off we would have a kick at the park. It was just the fun of shaping the footy and the art of kicking and having fun and not being so robotic.
“I love doing it, it gives me great connection with the players and if it was Tim Taranto I could put my arm around him and hone in on the finer parts of this game.
“When you look at the kicking percentages if you play in the wet and have a game plan around surge footy and booting it on, then your percentages suffer. I won’t be looking at percentages about efficiency but if we have good conditions I would expect we are going to share the ball and shift the ball really well and hopefully that way we look a more skilful team.”
Tigers CEO Brendon Gale has already urged greater levels of leadership from Dustin Martin next season, and it is here that Yze spies an opportunity.
“Dusty is an amazing kick so part of his leadership might be helping the players with the kicking program. And imparting his knowledge around the feel of kicking,” he says.
THE YOUNG CORE
Richmond has a core of 12 players with untapped talent including 2021 national draftees Gibcus, Tom Brown (pick 17), Tyler Sonsie (pick 28), Sam Banks (pick 29), and Judson Clark (pick 30).
To put it bluntly, the club’s future finals aspirations will depend upon Yze’s capacity to turn more than just Gibcus into A-grade talent.
Yeah, I can’t wait to coach them and I hope they feel excited by the opportunities,” says Yze of the under-25s.
“There are guys retiring and not only guys on the list, guys who play every week. So there are a couple of positions available every week. As a young player coming into the system when Todd Viney retired or Garry Lyon retired, I was in my third year and thinking, “There is a little carrot there”. So when they rock up on day one we will see guys hungry for those positions. There is a lot of excitement for a coach, knowing there is opportunity and waiting to see who is going to take it.”
https://www.codesports.com.au/afl/richmond-tigers-coach-adem-yze-talks-connection-with-neale-daniher-the-big-issues-at-tigerland/news-story/e9e1090603221666e877357b48db71f9
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I know it’s full pr mode but I’m already pumped for 2024. Also side note, one could only dream if we had another player who could kick like Dusty. He’s a generational talent for a reason
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Ashton Moir best kick and dual sided player of the draft and should still be on the board at our first pick - just hope he's not another Harrison Wigg. :shh
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I'm excited to see how a fresh face changes the side.
Think Mini did a solid job but he really was a Hardwick protege so it's not clear how much he could or would have done differently.
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James Harmes at the TAB Spring Fling says new Tigers coach Adem Yze is all about offence, taking the ball through the corridor. Says Simon Goodwin even had to hold him back at times. Music to the ears of Tigers full forward Tom Lynch, who could be back running in weeks @tabcomau
https://twitter.com/RalphyHeraldSun/status/1709026364731658717
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James Harmes at the TAB Spring Fling says new Tigers coach Adem Yze is all about offence, taking the ball through the corridor. Says Simon Goodwin even had to hold him back at times. Music to the ears of Tigers full forward Tom Lynch, who could be back running in weeks @tabcomau
https://twitter.com/RalphyHeraldSun/status/1709026364731658717
i highly doubt thats all he cares about, but lets take Harmes view on face value. Yze will be looking for a new job in 3 years to join another coach and our former captain who held similar thoughts. :shh
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I found the interview with Yze at the B & F, underwhelming. I would have liked him to make a prepared speech to the masses.
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Win us that first game of the season against the evil empire and the masses will be lining up and down punt road for memberships
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Win us that first game of the season again the evil empire and the masses will be lining up and down punt road for memberships
Interview or his speech?
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Biggest decision for the Richmond leadership group this pre-season… ;)
Watch here: https://twitter.com/cleary_mitch/status/1709736557203312834/video/2
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The coach is currently in Bali.
https://www.marriott.com/en-us/hotels/dpswh-w-bali-seminyak/overview/
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https://www.instagram.com/adem1321
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17. Adem Yze (Richmond)
The only coaches that come close to being as safe as the premiership coach are the first-year ones. That will be Adem Yze next year and the Tigers will start a new journey under his tutelage. This year already did a good job of tempering expectations for a side that is now looking to build its next premiership dynasty rather than add to the one that existed under Damien Hardwick. Yze is in it for the long haul.
https://www.foxsports.com.au/afl/afl-2023-coach-pressure-gauge-for-2024-season-most-likely-to-be-sacked-out-of-contract-coaches-justin-longmuir-luke-beveridge-ken-hinkley/news-story/95c30f831887df29aca567e8672f4eb3
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The new boss on his first day at training.
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https://www.richmondfc.com.au/albums/1464384/afl-pre-season-november-13-2023
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Snippet from the HeraldSun (https://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/afl/richmond-set-to-open-contract-extension-talks-with-superstar-midfielder-dustin-martin/news-story/2200753cb94ed983500f157a6a302672):
Yze is expected to introduce a revamped game style next season based on the method deployed by his former club Melbourne.
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Triple-premiership defender Nathan Broad says he was enjoying the balance of work and play under only the second senior coach of his career.
“Ooze (Yze) is good, when it’s time to work, let’s put your work hat on and we’re getting down to business, but then there will be certain parts of this camp and training where let’s have a bit of fun and take your work hat off,” Broad said.
Source: HeraldSun (https://www.news.com.au/sport/afl/afl-2024-dustin-martin-assessed-after-head-knock-at-richmond-camp/news-story/487f7d72346d26a54c62b28e439ffaa6)
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Tigers’ burning question:What changes does Adem Yze make?
There’s always fascination around a team with a new coach, particularly when it’s one of the biggest clubs in the competition not far removed from premiership success. And Sunday will mark the first time we see the Yze-led Tigers in action in some official capacity, with a new game style, role changes and moves otherwise on the radar. So aside from personnel, just how different will these Tigers look overall? Of course, despite coaching changes, Collingwood and GWS showed over the last two seasons that with enough top-end talent, it’s possible to bounce back quicker than expected, and Richmond fits that mould too.
https://www.foxsports.com.au/afl/afl-practice-matches-2024-dates-schedule-timetable-how-to-watch-on-live-stream-every-clubs-burning-question/news-story/01ecdc56be2dfef50b17967a0a03b6bf
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Ooze will have a smile on his face. Seems a number of things we trialed over the preseason worked.
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We seemed to play with more dash and focus on defensive pressure.
If that is a sign of things to come then I’ll be happy!
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Looked like the 2017 gameplan with a few minor tweaks and the return to an emphasis on pressure which we went away from and that makes all the difference.... :shh
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:shh
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Yze style not overly dissimilar to Hardwick’s
It’s only early days, but Adem Yze’s game style is not too dissimilar to what Damien Hardwick implemented at the club.
Yze has said this off-season that he wants his side to kick the ball more, and that they did at times, but it was the maniacal forward pressure of Hardwick’s reign that stood out.
Richmond forced the Melbourne defence into turnover after turnover and they capitalised by scoring frequently through that method.
https://www.sen.com.au/news/2024/02/18/the-key-takeaways-from-melbourne-v-richmond-practice-match/
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Looked like the 2017 gameplan with a few minor tweaks and the return to an emphasis on pressure which we went away from and that makes all the difference.... :shh
Yep. Really hope this theme continues.
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Yze interview with Tim Watson on 7news this week (maybe even as early as tomorrow night).
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Yze interview with Tim Watson on 7news this week (maybe even as early as tomorrow night).
Yes on Ch7 news tonight, they said it's on tomorrow (Monday)
Then there is an interview with Dimma on Tuesday
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Looks like a lot of players are knocking on the door for a game.
Will be interesting to see who is in the team for our first game
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Looks like a lot of players are knocking on the door for a game.
Will be interesting to see who is in the team for our first game
Think we will get a fair idea after the practice match next week against the pies
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After years of knock backs, Adem Yze is just weeks away from fulfilling his AFL coaching dream. Yze says he's not daunted following in Damian Hardwick’s footsteps and he's already making his mark at Punt Road. @timwatson32 #7AFL #7NEWS
Click on link/pic to watch:
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https://twitter.com/7NewsMelbourne/status/1759485955713769899
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TBH the interview was a letdown
3 mins (if that) of nothing much
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You were expecting a deep dive from a segment on the news and Tim Watson? Was always going to be a shallow puff piece. :shh
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You were expecting a deep dive from a segment on the news and Tim Watson? Was always going to be a shallow puff piece. :shh
Um yep um
Um
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I heard on Sen that he’s starting to remove images of the “dynasty “ era around the club .
2017 was 7 years ago - makes sense.
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I heard on Sen that he’s starting to remove images of the “dynasty “ era around the club .
2017 was 7 years ago - makes sense.
Yeah , he talked about that in the video above
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I heard on Sen that he’s starting to remove images of the “dynasty “ era around the club .
2017 was 7 years ago - makes sense.
Yeah , he talked about that in the video above
Yep, in the GR room (main meeting room) there was a photo of the 2017 premiership team celebrating on one wall. I'll be honest I'm not 100% sure what was on the other wall. But Per last night's not much story Yze had it removed. Also, looked like the Francis Boruke award winners honour board has been moved too.
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‘Does this need to be in here?’: Tigers coach reveals ‘disrespect’ fears after bold premiership move
News.com.au
February 20th, 2024
Tigers coach Adem Yze has been praised over his bold move to pull down shrines to the club’s premiership dynasty since taking over at Richmond.
The rookie senior coach heads into the 2024 AFL season immediately under pressure to turn the Tigers around after the club slumped to 13th on the AFL ladder last year.
With Damien Hardwick, Trent Cotchin and Jack Riewoldt all moving on, Yze has been tasked with beginning a new era at the club following its premierships in 2017, 2019 and 2020.
Yze was given the job after the recruitment process reportedly became a two-horse race between him and interim coach Andrew McQualter, following Hardwick’s move to the Gold Coast Suns.
The former Melbourne senior assistant coach has now revealed he has not held back in his decision to push the club forward.
One of the first moves he made was to take down some references to the club’s recent glory years, including one picture of the club’s drought-breaking 2017 premiership.
“I had the luxury of walking in and recognising different photos that are up that might have been (on the wall) for too long and things like that,” he told 7News on Monday night.
“It’s just like we need some clear air here.”
He said he received the support of the playing group’s senior figures before his decision to erase some of the memorabilia around the club’s Punt Round headquarters.
“Why is that in this room? That was six years ago,” he said of the 2017 photo.
“I felt like I was disrespecting people by saying, ‘Does this need to be in here? Can we can we move it? Can we get some blank walls?’ But like I said, the leaders bought into that.
“We had a discussion around it and it was time that that needed to be shifted and almost (covered up) like a fresh coat of paint.”
Demons legend Garry Lyon on Tuesday morning praised Yze for making the difficult call.
“I really like hearing that,” Lyon told SEN Breakfast.
“That was a long time ago. We’re never going to disrespect them. They’re our heroes. They’ll be hall of fame members for ever and a day. But lets put them over there with all the things we’ve achieved in the past. Lets leave room for something we can achieve in the future. I love that.”
Yze, who played 271 games for the Demons and was an All-Australian in 2002, started his coaching journey at Hawthorn in 2012, winning three grand finals in his first four seasons at the club.
He moved to Melbourne in 2020, before the Demons broke their 57-year premiership drought in 2021.
Yze said when he was announced as the club’s new coach in September that he is immediately pushing his players to make the top four in 2024.
“It‘s been three years since we’ve won a final, so there has to be a subtle change and hopefully I can bring that change,” he said.
“But the foundations of this footy club and the footy team are really strong. And I’m hoping to just bring my knowledge and experience of what I’ve learned … and bring my slant on the way that we should play so hopefully we can bounce back really quickly.
“I get huge upside on what other teams have done. GWS have gone from the bottom half of the ladder to a prelim … that’s what we are going to strive to do.
“I want the players walking into the footy club thinking they can make the top four next year. I can’t wait to get started.”
https://www.foxsports.com.au/afl/teams/richmond-tigers/does-this-need-to-be-in-here-tigers-coach-reveals-disrespect-fears-after-bold-premiership-move/news-story/1be9e43a5243fa4eb75b6073387a3c93
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I have a good feeling about Yze. Not saying we will be world beaters but I think we will be hard to play against. A fresh voice is much better than having someone who’s been around for ages ( mcqualter )
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“EXCELLENT MOVE”: WHY AFL GREATS BACK YZE’S DECISION TO HIDE RICHMOND’S PREMIERSHIP ERA
By Andrew Slevison
SEN
21 Feb 2024
SEN Breakfast’s Garry Lyon is a fan of what Yze is attempting to do by clearing the slate.
He believes it is a step in the right direction so early in Yze’s senior coaching career.
“I really like hearing that,” the Melbourne champion said.
“That was a long time ago. We’re never going to disrespect them. They’re our heroes. They’ll be Hall of Fame members forever and a day.
“But let us put them over there with all the things we’ve achieved in the past. Let’s leave room for something we can achieve in the future.
“I love that.”
Brownlow Medallist Gerard Healy had a similar view, referencing the flag-winning Hawthorn and Geelong teams of the very near past that future sides would attempt to emulate.
“I thought that was fantastic,” Healy said on SEN’s Sportsday.
“They are all about building new history. You can’t live in the glory of what’s gone, even though it’s still fresh and it’s not far away (that it happened).
“With a new coach it is time to turn the page and to worry about the future. There’s plenty of time to celebrate the greatness of the past, there’ll be a 10-year anniversary in a few years.
“For this group, and particularly the guys who didn’t play in those (premierships), is they don’t want to be talking about the greatness.
“That overhung Hawthorn for a long period of time, people trying to emulate the deeds of the great Hawthorn sides.
“I’m sure that it probably was reminded of the (Geelong) group under Chris Scott for a period of time. They won one and then they won another 10 or 11 years later, which was one of the great Grand Final victories.
“It’s a great move by Yze.”
Kane Cornes, who recently attended Port Adelaide’s 20-year premiership celebrations, agrees with Healy.
He described it as a bold and courageous decision which highlights Yze’s attitude towards creating his own history at the club.
“That’s what I thought as well,” he said.
“It looked bad because they had the pictures of it. They had the Channel 7 cameras in the lecture theatre and Chris Newman was up addressing the group.
“Adam Yze, he spoke on a whole heap of things, but that was the thing that struck me as well. About how initially when you’re a new coach, you feel like you’ve got to come in and do everything.
“Now that may be confronting for a couple of those premiership players that have been in the room and you go, ‘oh, hang on, what’s this guy doing coming in and getting rid of all that history?’
“But it’s not about history. History can happen in 5-10 years.
“I just caught up with the 20-year Port Adelaide players on Friday morning and it’s just as good. You don’t need those photos for the current group.
“In fact, I think it’s a little bit daunting when you are comparing the current group to that of the Richmond dynasty of the past.
“I thought it was an excellent move and a bold one and one that would have taken a little bit of courage for a new coach to come in and make.
“Tigers fans, your coach is impressive and that’s what you get, the insights, when your coach speaks.”
https://www.sen.com.au/news/2024/02/21/excellent-move-why-afl-greats-back-yzes-decision-to-hide-richmonds/
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Richmond won’t be dull
Tim Miller
theRoar.com.au
28 Feb 2024
The jury is still out on whether the Tigers will be any good in Adem Yze’s first season at the helm, but if their two pre-season matches are anything to go by, they’ll always be worth a watch if you’re a neutral supporter.
The polish needs some work, but a run and gun, daring style is already beginning to form in front of us: Yze’s Tigers will be far more aggressive in their ball movement than in later years under Damien Hardwick and then under last year’s caretaker Andrew McQualter.
Richmond half-backs repeatedly were given licence to surge well up the ground to help create an overlap on the Collingwood midfield, with Daniel Rioli and Jayden Short especially streaming between wing and half-forward on the counterattack.
It’s little wonder Noah Balta, a premiership-winning defender and a staple in the Tigers’ back six for years, has been swung forward: incredibly quick for his size, strong as a bull and great overhead, he’ll be a nightmare running back towards goal for any opposition defender if and when Richmond get a fast break going.
The challenge will be in sanding off the rough edges, which will take time: the Tigers struggled to generate high-quality shots at goal in the first half, with an inaccurate 2.10 scoreline mostly down to needing to take shots from long range as their play developed too quickly for their forwards to get in position to capitalise.
Just five marks inside 50 up to midway through the third quarter, despite a comfortable lead in the inside-50 count, will also need to be addressed; sometimes, it felt like the Tigers were trying to move the ball too swiftly for their own good.
Equally, with high reward comes high risk, and the reigning premiers were only too quick to capitalise when the Tigers’ ambitious passing from defence occasionally came unstuck.
At worst, the Tigers will likely resemble a 2023 Hawthorn this year: the win column might be nothing to write home about, but they’ll be captivating to watch all the same as a mini-rebuild begins.
https://www.theroar.com.au/2024/02/27/afl-pre-season-notebook-de-new-brownlow-contender-tiger-journeyman-takes-chance-with-both-hands/
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From Barrett's Sliding Doors column.
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IF ...
Adam Kingsley last year took over a team which looked tired after several seasons of high-end ladder finishes and re-energised it all the way to a one-point preliminary final loss ...
THEN ...
the 2023 GWS story provides the hope and maybe even the blueprint for Adem Yze in 2024.
https://www.afl.com.au/news/1080579/afl-sliding-doors-damian-barrett-if-there-are-loads-of-problems-at-the-demons-right-now-then
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From Barrett's Sliding Doors column.
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IF ...
Adam Kingsley last year took over a team which looked tired after several seasons of high-end ladder finishes and re-energised it all the way to a one-point preliminary final loss ...
THEN ...
the 2023 GWS story provides the hope and maybe even the blueprint for Adem Yze in 2024.
https://www.afl.com.au/news/1080579/afl-sliding-doors-damian-barrett-if-there-are-loads-of-problems-at-the-demons-right-now-then
age demographic comparison and how many young a graders do they have compared to us now?
im not sure you can compare the lists unless we get some more talent in the door.
We are miles off a prelim.
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From Barrett's Sliding Doors column.
(https://resources.afl.com.au/photo-resources/2020/11/17/8a4c2df0-2497-41a0-85ac-8cab8feed48a/richmond.jpg?width=1511)
IF ...
Adam Kingsley last year took over a team which looked tired after several seasons of high-end ladder finishes and re-energised it all the way to a one-point preliminary final loss ...
THEN ...
the 2023 GWS story provides the hope and maybe even the blueprint for Adem Yze in 2024.
https://www.afl.com.au/news/1080579/afl-sliding-doors-damian-barrett-if-there-are-loads-of-problems-at-the-demons-right-now-then
age demographic comparison and how many young a graders do they have compared to us now?
im not sure you can compare the lists unless we get some more talent in the door.
We are miles off a prelim.
And where are we gonna get the talent from? Surely the club isn’t so delusional to think sonesie, Clark, Dow, are our next A graders
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There is only one way sim, the draft.
You can top up but only when u have class. I just think our cupboard is completely bare at the moment with the exception of 3 or 4. I like the kids like brown, Greene but FMD our midfield looks like rubbish and has been for some time.
Gws had the list we don't have. They just needed a fresh voice
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What about the Pies?
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The Pies had the players but had a poo game plan and coach , copied our game plan = flag
We need to rotate the kids with the guidance of the experienced players and if the aren’t the goods move them on ,
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The pies were also able to fleece the draft with 3x father son picks which ended up being critical to the premiership
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the pies have a far superior list, who are in the right age bracket. That is the difference.
How they got those picks is a different topic, but there is no comparison IMO. TT is quality and Dusty is cooked and rightfully so should not be relied upon to be that guy anymore. Bolton well he is next best but as we know goes missing.
Also look what they are getting out of howe, pendlebury and even sidebottom.
we are kidding ourselves if we think plow plodders are the way forward.
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So much doom and gloom.
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Yeah way too much gloom and doom and the season is still a week away.
Some of it purely based on the kick and giggle footy that was just played.
Let’s wait and see what gets served up
Many moons ago when Kevin sheedy was quizzed as to Essendons performance early in the season he responded and I’m paraphrasing here . It doesn’t settle down until around round 7
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I’ve been thinking - Yze is in a similar position to Spud Frawley when he took over as coach .
He’s inherited a team that still had a nucleus of decent players - a few years removed from their best seasons .
Spud got a spike before the bottom really fell out .
Maybe this is wishful thinking but I’d like to think this incarnation of Richmond won’t let this happen again. Not much has gone wrong under the tenure of Benny Gale .
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There is only one way sim, the draft.
You can top up but only when u have class. I just think our cupboard is completely bare at the moment with the exception of 3 or 4. I like the kids like brown, Greene but FMD our midfield looks like rubbish and has been for some time.
Gws had the list we don't have. They just needed a fresh voice
I agree completely. I just think hit the draft. Bottom out and cop it, what Geelong has done is a one off
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Yeah way too much gloom and doom and the season is still a week away.
Some of it purely based on the kick and giggle footy that was just played.
Let’s wait and see what gets served up
Many moons ago when Kevin sheedy was quizzed as to Essendons performance early in the season he responded and I’m paraphrasing here . It doesn’t settle down until around round 7
Exactly
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There is only one way sim, the draft.
You can top up but only when u have class. I just think our cupboard is completely bare at the moment with the exception of 3 or 4. I like the kids like brown, Greene but FMD our midfield looks like rubbish and has been for some time.
Gws had the list we don't have. They just needed a fresh voice
so the obvious question is we need to go to the draft to get quality. So when we do go to the draft what is the obvious time frame.
The bottom line is we will need to get enough GOOD players to what 80 plus games its not linear injuries failures the whole poo to kaboodle comes into play there is no such thing as a 5 year rebuild we haven't even accepted we need to rebuild despite the last three years.
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I think people read far too much into playing lists. The gap isn’t that great from best to worst with a couple of exceptions. Had we not won those 3 flags I am dead certain posters on this forum would have pointed at list deficiencies. Every club has list deficiencies, including the Pies who cast off 4 of their best/better players after 2018 and effectively topped up to then make a run at a flag. Now they are world beaters because of their list?
Coach, off field support and game plan that best suits the list (max out your strengths and try to offset deficiencies - think Georgie role) are the best ways to win a flag.
It’s not a guarantee to win a flag but will get you damn close.
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Yeah way too much gloom and doom and the season is still a week away.
Some of it purely based on the kick and giggle footy that was just played.
Let’s wait and see what gets served up
Many moons ago when Kevin sheedy was quizzed as to Essendons performance early in the season he responded and I’m paraphrasing here . It doesn’t settle down until around round 7
fair point, but i havent changed my view since a few years ago.
1 pre season game didnt sway my opinion as to what players can get us another flag.
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I think people read far too much into playing lists. The gap isn’t that great from best to worst with a couple of exceptions. Had we not won those 3 flags I am dead certain posters on this forum would have pointed at list deficiencies. Every club has list deficiencies, including the Pies who cast off 4 of their best/better players after 2018 and effectively topped up to then make a run at a flag. Now they are world beaters because of their list?
Coach, off field support and game plan that best suits the list (max out your strengths and try to offset deficiencies - think Georgie role) are the best ways to win a flag.
It’s not a guarantee to win a flag but will get you damn close.
On the flip side GWS circa 2016-19 had no deficiencies and they didn’t win any silverware :shh
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Spot on.
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Yze needs time , but his biggest downfall would be going to the same well of experienced players who are part there best or not up to it the thread that has Bern happening last couple of years. The kids need there opportunity and we need rejuvenation.
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"I'm just so excited for our players to get out there and execute what we've been training."
(https://abs-0.twimg.com/emoji/v2/svg/1f399.svg) Adem Yze previews Saturday's Opening Round.
https://www.richmondfc.com.au/video/1500933/still-learning-as-a-collective-yze
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‘Dimma was a bit more erratic’: What will a Richmond game look like in 2024?
By Andrew Wu
The Age
March 9, 2024
“It felt like a Richmond game.”
This was one of Damien Hardwick’s favourite phrases during his time at Punt Road to describe how his Tigers played.
Even those whose football persuasion were not to the yellow and black knew the hallmarks of a Richmond game: surging the ball forward, front-half turnovers, dirty goals, just to name a few.
Unlike Craig McRae and Adam Kingsley, coaches who had success in their rookie season with new game plans, Adem Yze has not conducted a root-and-branch overhaul.
It’s not inconceivable that in Hardwick’s first game against his old club, the team he formerly coached will display more of his imprints than the side he now commandeers.
So what will a Richmond game look like in 2024?
Stoppages
One practice game is nowhere near a big enough of a sample size to make such predictions, but Yze said in an interview with this masthead last month he has made “subtle changes”.
The word out of Punt Road is there has been a greater emphasis placed on stoppages, an area which was not necessarily an Achilles heel for the Tigers but one they did not prioritise.
The Tigers ranked 14th for clearances last year but, having been 11th (2017), 16th (2019) and 15th (2020) in their premiership years, it clearly was not a cornerstone of their success.
In Tim Taranto and Jacob Hopper, the latter coming off an injury-interrupted first season at Richmond, the Tigers have two big-bodied midfielders to help Dion Prestia on the inside.
“We probably put more focus on centre bounce and stoppage and that’s where we can kind of get the ball into our front half, and we can set up defensively around it,” Prestia said.
“It’s just a territory game. I feel like all teams play pretty similar and want to win clearance and want to win the turnover, but it’s just about having the ball in our front half and putting as much pressure on the opposition defence as much as possible.”
Yze has also foreshadowed more midfield minutes for Dustin Martin and Liam Baker, who made his name as a hard-nosed backman but became a prime mover in Hardwick’s latter years.
“I think there might be a few numbers spin through there a bit more,” Prestia said. “I think we’ll spread the load a bit.”
Young cubs
A new coach brings fresh starts, and few at Tigerland have relished the change more than Thomson Dow, who plays in the opening round for the first time since being drafted in 2019.
Strong at the stoppage, Dow is thankful for the work Hardwick put into him to sharpen weaker areas in his game but appreciates the importance the Yze regime places in his craft.
“That’s favoured me,” Dow said. “We want to value that aspect of the game. It can be a very important and defining factor whether you win or lose.
“It’s been refreshing having a new mindset.”
Teams don’t make unexpected rises up the ladder without an unlikely improver, and teammates believe Dow can be that man.
“He has been outstanding, I think he’s gonna shock the competition,” Taranto said.
Tiger cubs Seth Campbell and Sam Banks also get first crack at bedding down spots.
Noah’s arc
Noah Balta recalls spending an entire pre-season training as a forward, only to be told by the coaches minutes before round one he would be playing in defence. This time, it appears, the switch to the forward 50 will have a longer shelf life. It is Yze’s most noticeable positional change under their new coach.
“Dimma was a bit more erratic, to say the least,” Balta quipped. “But yeah, I’d go forward, back and ruck in the same game. I know this whole pre-season I’ve been forward and Yze’s pretty certain that I’m going to stick there.”
The idea was Yze’s and sold to the player on the idea his strengths – his speed and power – would be better utilised in attack than defence.
“When I was playing in the backline, it’s a lot of gut running, and there’s a lot of better players that are better than me at that,” Balta said.
“I’m a bit more of an explosive player. Yze explained that to me, and it felt like up forward I get to control how much I can run, actually. So instead of chasing somebody else’s backside the whole day I’m very excited.
“I feel like the fans are actually going to like me now.”
New beginnings
Perhaps the most significant change at Punt Road is the one that can’t be measured: the fresh outlook that comes with a new coach. Except for only a few on the Tigers’ list, Hardwick had been the only senior coach they had played under before his shock departure midway through last year.
“He’s a lot younger than Dimma, so maybe he can relate to us a bit more,” Prestia joked of Yze, five years Hardwick’s junior.
“For myself, I was under Dimma for eight years. Some of the players like Grimesy [Dylan Grimes] and Dustin were under him for like 14, 15 years.
“Just having that fresh way to move the ball a little bit differently. It’s similar, but it’s a little bit different. It’s exciting when you have something new or a new game plan or a new stoppage set-up.
“It’s something new that gets you a bit excited because we knew that for seven years our game plan worked so well that we kind of stuck with it the whole way. That’s the exciting part about bringing ‘Ooze’ in.”
https://www.theage.com.au/sport/afl/dimma-was-a-bit-more-erratic-what-will-a-richmond-game-look-like-in-2024-20240306-p5fa9q.html?js-chunk-not-found-refresh=true
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David King did question what the new-look Tigers did under Adem Yze on the Gold Coast on Saturday, wondering if their shift of mentality will work for them in the long run.
“We saw the reverse. We saw a team go from the Hardwick model to an Yze model,” King added.
“Now it's day one. It's first day of school stuff, so we're not making any great statements about them, but it looks so drastically different. Obviously it's going to be clunky, but a lot longer kicking to centre half-forward, to 40 metres out from goal. I’m thinking that's just not going to work.
https://www.sen.com.au/news/2024/03/12/dimmanated-how-the-damien-hardwick-model-has-taken-over-footy/
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..Yze confirms Lynch to play on managed minutes and previews the Carlton game
https://www.richmondfc.com.au/video/1504420/its-good-to-have-him-back-yze?videoId=1504420&modal=true&type=video&publishFrom=1710284482001
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From Barrett's Sliding Doors column:
(https://resources.afl.com.au/photo-resources/2020/11/17/8a4c2df0-2497-41a0-85ac-8cab8feed48a/richmond.jpg?width=1511)
IF ...
the Tigers are almost guaranteed to struggle this season ...
THEN ...
a lot of positives can still emerge from 2024, particularly if the fight displayed against Carlton in round one becomes a regular facet of play. Loved the way new coach Adem Yze got his team to "click" after the horrors of the first game against the Suns.
https://www.afl.com.au/news/1090280/sliding-doors-if-luke-beveridge-has-been-many-things-in-his-nine-years-as-a-coach-then
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Well he has us fighting again today. There are moments of absolute chaos and some of the worst skills you’ll see, but we are fighting hard.
Don’t forget we are blooding a lot of kids today and port are meant to be top 4
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One thing for sure is we're better off playing kids with motivation
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Well he has us fighting again today. There are moments of absolute chaos and some of the worst skills you’ll see, but we are fighting hard.
Don’t forget we are blooding a lot of kids today and port are meant to be top 4
What is the age demographic of our list? I bet other teams are younger.
Issue is our players are poo. Guys like Dow, Macca and Pickett are just so bad.
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It's time for the coach to make a statement at selection. I'm sick of watching some of these players running around.
Rather watch the youth now.
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It's time for the coach to make a statement at selection. I'm sick of watching some of these players running around.
Rather watch the youth now.
Totally agree . Reputation and names must mean nothing from now on
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Short needs a run in the VFL.. kmac also. Dow pee him off.
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Just play kids for the rest of the year and get a top four pick.
We desperately need good young talent.
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Le Fau bit of meh for me, looked bewildered, I think YZE is the way to go? Get the kids in, get some draft picks, we are going to have some bad games this year, I think Dusty is done (sadly)
Hold our heads high after 3 flags in 4 dominant years and get on with the rebuild.
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Not a great start IMO.
Expected to see clear signs of non negotiable standards like pressure and adequate execution of skills which are things any new coach can implement and demand from the first day.
Unfortunately both these are below standard across the board besides maybe Baker I don't think anyone can be proud of either their skills or pressure applied with at least one being deplorably below standard.
Standards are a non negotiable requirement. I'm not expecting newbies or players with less than 2 years experience in the vfl to be elite players but if a new coach cannot set a standard then it's not much hope in the execution of any planned vision. The proof is in the pudding that these two attributes are clearly not priority for this coaching department.
How many premiership players do we still have?
There's really no excuses to this level of mediocrity.
A coaching department can either accept it or demand a higher standard. I'm not confident at this stage from anything I've seen in the three games so far.
Its actually been pretty underwhelming.
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I think yze has had a good start. It’s not about the wins as whether the word is said or not, we are rebuilding. Skills have been poor but the guy has had 1 pre season. I think give him atleast one more especially with the younger players who need developing and haven’t played under dimma for 10 years
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From Barrett's Sliding Doors column:
(https://resources.afl.com.au/photo-resources/2020/11/17/8a4c2df0-2497-41a0-85ac-8cab8feed48a/richmond.jpg?width=1511)
IF ...
Dimma took 10 matches to register his first win as coach of Richmond ...
THEN ...
I really hope Adem Yze doesn't have to wait as long.
https://www.afl.com.au/news/1095261/if-the-crows-want-us-to-believe-in-their-potential-then
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I think yze has had a good start. It’s not about the wins as whether the word is said or not, we are rebuilding. Skills have been poor but the guy has had 1 pre season. I think give him atleast one more especially with the younger players who need developing and haven’t played under dimma for 10 years
What do you think he stands for?
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LOL at Yze copping the bulk of the gatorade :laugh:.
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Kudos also to Adam Yze, who out-coached John Longmire today, and then some. Richmond took Sydney on at their own game and came up trumps. Not since the 2022 Grand Final have I seen the Swans be outplayed and so impotent in a quarter as they were in the third. The Tigers’ pressure was immense, and the Swans crumbled as Liam Baker, Kamdyn McIntosh, both Rioli’s, Shai Bolton, Nathan Broad, Marlion Pickett, Nick Vlastuin, a kid called Seth Campbell, and others ran amok and set the Tigers up for the win. The backs and mids were ably supported by Tom Lynch, Rhyan Mansell (he is a beauty) and another kid, former NRL prodigy, Mykelti Lefau, rewarding their hard work with goals.
If Richmond fans ever get disheartened this year about their future, I recommend them to watch a replay of their third quarter today, as the past, the present and future of the Tigers was on display.
https://themongrelpunt.com/afl-season-2024/2024/03/31/r3-richmond-v-sydney-the-mongrel-review/
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Yze on AFL360 right now.
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From Barrett's 'Sliding Doors' column:
(https://resources.afl.com.au/photo-resources/2020/11/17/8a4c2df0-2497-41a0-85ac-8cab8feed48a/richmond.jpg?width=1511)
IF ...
the injury list includes Lynch, Short, Taranto, Gibcus, Prestia, Hopper, Grimes, Balta and Ross ...
THEN ...
new coach Adem Yze has little hope. Really feel for him.
https://www.afl.com.au/news/1110272/if-nick-daicos-is-yet-to-reach-the-extraordinary-levels-of-2023-then
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Makes me wonder if they trained badly over the summer to get so many injuries now. Or is it just age.
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Age for some
Meehan
Bit of bad luck
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Age for some
Meehan
Bit of bad luck
Good post. Craw, take note of quality and brevity
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Makes me wonder if they trained badly over the summer to get so many injuries now. Or is it just age.
Talking with some players, they said it was the best pre-season they have experienced at the club for a few years. Maybe our pre-game warmups need changing or maybe it's just plain back luck. Either way this department requires review.
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Makes me wonder if they trained badly over the summer to get so many injuries now. Or is it just age.
Talking with some players, they said it was the best pre-season they have experienced at the club for a few years. Maybe our pre-game warmups need changing or maybe it's just plain back luck. Either way this department requires review.
It's interesting
Quite a few clubs are having issues with soft tissue injuries.
I've been wondering if it has anything to do with the shorter pre-seasons now? Teams who didn't make finals used to start pre-season sometime in Oct now it's a month later...
Agree that it is an area that must be reviewed. Ditto medical and physio
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It’s being reviewed.
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‘150 per cent’: Outgoing Tigers CEO defiant on Yze’s future
Brendon Gale may not be at the Tigers for much longer, but the outgoing CEO says the club could not be more confident in Adem Yze.
Paywall: https://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/afl/outgoing-richmond-ceo-brendon-gale-says-club-is-fully-behind-adem-yze-after-tough-start/news-story/2370fcbecc825812b4de633d50977fcb
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Massive respect for Benny but let's face it he is gone. His words mean nothing.
Richo is bang on. Where is the president. Do we even have one.
Well said Richo :thumbsup
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Was always going to be a bad year.
Yze shouldn't be under review until his third season.
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I will judge him by the draft picks we get in the next few years
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The media are ripping into us, the same media that pretty much all had us bottom 4 without all the injuries. I don't understand why they're all acting so surprised we're terrible.
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I didn’t think we’d be this bad but grateful for the opportunity to land a top 3 and hopefully 2 or 3 more picks in the top 20
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I’m grateful as well, to finish in an average position means we will be average for as long as we do . A bit of short term pain for long term gain, play all the kids 🫣
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Good time for us to be average, just before the AFL give Tassie all the picks, just like our rebuild prior when suns and giants got all the picks....
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Horse sending Jordan to Walsh turned the game tonight...wish we'd play a tagger every now & then instead of just letting the oppo's best mids bring their own footy and do as thy please as they tear us apart every stuffing week...another thing that hasn't changed under Yze..... :banghead
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Horse sending Jordan to Walsh turned the game tonight...wish we'd play a tagger every now & then instead of just letting the oppo's best mids bring their own footy and do as thy please as they tear us apart every stuffing week...another thing that hasn't changed under Yze..... :banghead
Didn’t Pickett play a tagging role a couple of weeks ago ??
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Horse sending Jordan to Walsh turned the game tonight...wish we'd play a tagger every now & then instead of just letting the oppo's best mids bring their own footy and do as thy please as they tear us apart every stuffing week...another thing that hasn't changed under Yze..... :banghead
Didn’t Pickett play a tagging role a couple of weeks ago ??
Yes on Pertracca
Staggering that we are the only team to beat the Swans this year :gobdrop
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Horse sending Jordan to Walsh turned the game tonight...wish we'd play a tagger every now & then instead of just letting the oppo's best mids bring their own footy and do as thy please as they tear us apart every stuffing week...another thing that hasn't changed under Yze..... :banghead
Totally. Port also shut out Stewart the other week. It works.
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Horse sending Jordan to Walsh turned the game tonight...wish we'd play a tagger every now & then instead of just letting the oppo's best mids bring their own footy and do as thy please as they tear us apart every stuffing week...another thing that hasn't changed under Yze..... :banghead
Didn’t Pickett play a tagging role a couple of weeks ago ??
Yes on Pertracca
Staggering that we are the only team to beat the Swans this year :gobdrop
Petracca plays for Melbourne....they won easily and he still got 23 and a goal... :shh
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“Good effort again tonight”….
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#proudoftheboys :shh
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Team seriously looks like no-one's actually coaching them..... :help
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That's the famous "Clayton's" coaching philosophy :shh
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Team seriously looks like no-one's actually coaching them..... :help
lol. Yep.
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Hahaha short. What else do you expect now
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Young iis stuffen poohouse. stuff him off
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Yze has a lot of work to do. He would getting a great idea of who is worth investing time into and st this stage it’s hard to say anyone is. Holes everywhere in the list. Who’s worth keeping ? Hard to pick out more than 5 atm. Yze has a rough road ahead and will probably be sacked for not being able to win with a list that’s just not afl standard
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Yze is killing us on purpose. An awesome era destroyed in a few weeks. Injuries is an excuse. When there is absolutely no intent and effort, and the coach keeps praising effort.. he is then a mole not a coach
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The worst coach in the history of our club
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The worst coach in the history of our club
By far the worst. He coaches happiness, not football
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" the boys fought it out and tried their best but we didn't execute our tackling but the attempts were very pleasing and I liked how the boys worked the ball even though we had turnovers our attempts were very pleasing. Oh and in defence our defensive spoil attempts were very very pleasing but our execution was not as good as we'd expect but we have a lot to be pleased about how we attempted to play footy tonight ".
:rollin
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MarkIINeeld :shh
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Yze is killing us on purpose. An awesome era destroyed in a few weeks. Injuries is an excuse. When there is absolutely no intent and effort, and the coach keeps praising effort.. he is then a mole not a coach
Any halfwit can see Balta needs to be played back and we need to drop the zone which is being picked apart like swiss cheese. Yze still thinks our duds are going to come good. He is clearly clueless
Can we bone him on Monday and elevate Steve Morris FFS!
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Balta forward, Bolton more time forward than on ball and Martin more time on ball than forward were the bright ideas he announced during the pre- season...all completely arse about ...the warning signs were there.... :shh
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Few points
Some got carried away with the early form and win was always going to get worse with more kids in and senior blokes coasting around and adding injuries. Rebuild no doubt.
Blaming Yze is ridiculous get the best coach in afl now he will struggle the cattle is not there. Needs the preseason clean up the list and football department needs a revamp. Most importantly put the right people next to him invest in the footy department club has been taking the short way out standards dropped we herd covid cuts before what's the exuse now nothing spend in the footy department.This bs Yze rocked the ship over memorabilia what a lousy exuse players agreed and it's in another room move on we're in a new dawn.
Blame our defence all you like it's still our best part of our side. Sinking ship playing in our defence so much ball comes in because midfield and forward line can't compete.
Hit the draft hard and make hard calls whoever is in stays whoever wants our pack your bags.
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Few points
Some got carried away with the early form and win was always going to get worse with more kids in and senior blokes coasting around and adding injuries. Rebuild no doubt.
Blaming Yze is ridiculous get the best coach in afl now he will struggle the cattle is not there. Needs the preseason clean up the list and football department needs a revamp. Most importantly put the right people next to him invest in the footy department club has been taking the short way out standards dropped we herd covid cuts before what's the exuse now nothing spend in the footy department.This bs Yze rocked the ship over memorabilia what a lousy exuse players agreed and it's in another room move on we're in a new dawn.
Blame our defence all you like it's still our best part of our side. Sinking ship playing in our defence so much ball comes in because midfield and forward line can't compete.
Hit the draft hard and make hard calls whoever is in stays whoever wants our pack your bags.
Balanced post. :clapping
So true about the defence. We have a substandard on ball division led by a ruckman that continues to play stupid football and do ridiculously stupid things on the field.
Our midfielders are non competitive and although we do win some clearances our ball use is deplorable and below AFL standard.
Without the ball in our hands teams are bringing the ball inside forward 50 pressure free so it's pretty difficult for our defenders to defend especially when they have mids streaming forward and our mids are too exhausted to make the extra effort.
So three things we could've been better at.
1) FITNESS - we look the least fittest team and that's by quarter time. So we are at least 3 quarters behind other teams in terms of fitness.
2) SKILLS - we are atrocious with our basic fundamentals. Few exemptions aside, our team cannot kick or handball even when there is minimal to no pressure. Deplorable.
3) PRESSURE - we are the clearly the worst team in terms of effective pressure. I know Yze loves to see attempts but it would be much nicer if we could actually stop a player for kicking an easy goal from the goal square when we have "tackled" them. It seems that the ability to apply pressure and the ability to tackle (which was our ONE WOOD and used to seperate us from mediocre to greatness) has completely disappeared to nonexistence.
All these things should have been addressed in preseason but clearly the standards have been lowered to allow mediocrity to reign and now it's completely infected pretty much everyone.
A lot to do to get that back.
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The hate on yze is truely ridiculous.
I back him in. Give him 2 more pre seasons and then make a judgment imo.
Go Yze !
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The hate on yze is truely ridiculous.
I back him in. Give him 2 more pre seasons and then make a judgment imo.
Go Yze !
With you on this Sim
But I am getting bloody frustrated with some of the comments in his pressers
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If he showed some balls then the comments would be more positive.
His woke replies in pressers are truly ridiculous.
This week was his press conference by far, and even still managed to tell us the second half "they battled hard"
Crazy
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What’s the good in calling out senior players in the presser ? What’s the good in the pressers at all anyway? There’s so much spin from every coach, there really is no insight from them. Can guarantee it’s a different story behind closed doors
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Did anyone watch the Chris Fagan press conference ??
He described us at being at “ Ground zero “ and was pretty sympathetic to Yze .
I guess he understands the challenge ahead. I’m sure he remembers losing to us at the MCG 110-17 in 2018 .
It’s never as bad as you think it is - at the moment we just have to endure a bit of pain .
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We had are 11 senior players out there last night premiership players that's enough to be competitive unfortunately lucky you can pick 2 or 3 been standing up this season. We're is there skills gone just continue to make mistakes.
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Lmao are people really still excusing this.....this isn't 2010 where our guns bar Lids-were still wet behind the ears, our "experience " was a cooked and drugged stuffed Cousins, and injury stuffed Foley, Tambling, Hackson, McGoof, Newman & Tucky, we had blokes like Gus, Farmer, Nason, Webberly, Thomson & Hislop running around and our only really quick player was Matty White........yeah they copped some floggings but they never turned up their toes and served up the crap this lot have over the last two weeks....and they could at least crack 50 on a regular basis.... :shh
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Apart from that belting Sydney gave us in 2016 teams coached by Hardwick usually were not comprehensively thrashed. This trashing reminds me of that horrific thrashing by Geelong at Marvel. It reminds also me very much of the bad old days.
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It's ok , they tried. At training tomorrow, Yze will give them all participation award ribbons and say we don't count the score, we count smiles , fun and just participating. Well done boys . Be happy
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It's ok , they tried. At training tomorrow, Yze will give them all participation award ribbons and say we don't count the score, we count smiles , fun and just participating. Well done boys . Be happy
Like your dusty rants
You’ve only said this 120+ times
Yze smiles at training living rent free in Sicilian heads
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"He is delusional."
Why @kanecornes was shocked to hear Adem Yze say the Tigers are not in rebuilding mode.
https://x.com/FootyonNine/status/1792502151182418212
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"He is delusional."
Why @kanecornes was shocked to hear Adem Yze say the Tigers are not in rebuilding mode.
https://x.com/FootyonNine/status/1792502151182418212
Exactly
We are in pre rebuilding mode
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I understand us struggling to score given our injuries, but I would like to see Ooze instill some defensive effort/intensity into the team. If we lose to the Dons by 10 goals but we tackle hard and make it a scrap, I would be ok.
The training drill stuff of the last two weeks is unacceptable.
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"He is delusional."
Why @kanecornes was shocked to hear Adem Yze say the Tigers are not in rebuilding mode.
https://x.com/FootyonNine/status/1792502151182418212
Exactly
We are in pre rebuilding mode
Yep cant be in rebuilding mode until you have the draft picks to do so, Taranto and Hopper trades have cost us two years of the rebuild
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"He is delusional."
Why @kanecornes was shocked to hear Adem Yze say the Tigers are not in rebuilding mode.
https://x.com/FootyonNine/status/1792502151182418212
Exactly
We are in pre rebuilding mode
Yep cant be in rebuilding mode until you have the draft picks to do so, Taranto and Hopper trades have cost us two years of the rebuild
yep. we will model the hawthorn rebuild and it didnt need to be this way.
We now have more chance at playing finals around 2027/ 2028 all things going well.
Yze is trying to sell a story like he must have in the interview, and it wont end well if he keeps up the charade. Be honest and show some balls.
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"He is delusional."
Why @kanecornes was shocked to hear Adem Yze say the Tigers are not in rebuilding mode.
https://x.com/FootyonNine/status/1792502151182418212
Exactly
We are in pre rebuilding mode
Yep cant be in rebuilding mode until you have the draft picks to do so, Taranto and Hopper trades have cost us two years of the rebuild
yep. we will model the hawthorn rebuild and it didnt need to be this way.
We now have more chance at playing finals around 2027/ 2028 all things going well.
Yze is trying to sell a story like he must have in the interview, and it wont end well if he keeps up the charade. Be honest and show some balls.
We'll know what the real intent & mindset of the club is come trade week.....but start worrying if they start announcing contract extensions to the likes of Prestia, Graham, McIntosh & Naismith...even the alleged two years being offered Nank is slightly concerning.... :shh
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“IT’S JUST A CROCK”: THE EX-COACH’S TESTIMONY THAT PROVES YZE IS SAYING ALL THE RIGHT THINGS
Seb Mottram
SEN
21 May 2024
Richmond coach Adem Yze has refused to declare his side is in a rebuild – a move praised by Nathan Buckley.
Collingwood champion and ex-coach Buckley says the word ‘rebuild’ in football is “nonsense”, explaining there is a disconnect between the media and footy circles on that prospect.
The Tigers will have barely 26 players fit when they take on Essendon this Saturday in the annual Dreamtime at the ‘G clash and are coming off a 119-point to Brisbane last week.
Yze told reporters post-game that the Tigers can rebound quickly when the troops return.
“We're just struggling with personnel right now, with some talent out of the team, but that will hold us in good stead,” he said.
“Some of our younger players are getting opportunities, so when we do get some troops back, that'll be the silver lining.
“It wasn't too long ago this footy club lost by 120 points in 2016 in the last game, then bounced back to win a flag in 2017.
“There are some hard times we're going to have to deal with, and right now we're going through them, but we're going to work hard and try to bounce back as quick as we can and get back to where we know we should be.”
Kane Cornes has led the criticism of that press conference, labelling Yze “delusional” for thinking his entire list can be competitive.
But Buckley came to the defence of the first-year coach, detailing how and why Yze is saying all the right things.
“It’s just a crock,” Buckley told SEN’s Whateley on the concepts of rebuilds.
“And what do you do when you declare a rebuild, what is the next step when someone says we’re rebuilding?
“Say you’re in Round 10, what do you do in the next 10 months? It’s a nonsense, and it’s something the media is absolutely caught up on, that they want someone from an organization to say that word, rebuild.
“Philosophically, I think there is a disconnect between the media and maybe people around the football environment that pick up media narratives around a club admitting they need to rebuild.
“Every club in some form or some shape is rebuilding, regenerating, rewiring, restumping… sometimes a tree falls on the top of the house and you realise you’ve got termites and you realise you’ve got more work to do than you thought you needed to four or five rounds earlier, and that’s what injury could do.
“When you look at Richmond’s injury list and you consider they’ve played 39 players through the first 10 rounds and only have had five players play every game, it is difficult to assess their list.”
https://www.sen.com.au/news/2024/05/21/its-just-a-crock-the-ex-coachs-testimony-that-proves-yze-is-saying-all-the/
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Liked seeing him on the bench giving realtime feedback to the players.
Got to also say that I liked how we played tonight.
Much better effort from everyone.
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If last nights effort was the new standard then I’ll get off Adem’s back.
Shows how woeful we were the last couple of weeks. We can be competitive.
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If last nights effort was the new standard then I’ll get off Adem’s back.
Shows how woeful we were the last couple of weeks. We can be competitive.
Competitive losses are pretty much all we want.....maybe a few more wins once it becomes apparent Norf have the spoon sewn up and we can't catch Hawthorn & West Coast because the kids still need to learn how to win....(knowing us I'm tipping we'll lose to the shyte teams around us and upset a couple of finals sides) :shh
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If last nights effort was the new standard then I’ll get off Adem’s back.
Shows how woeful we were the last couple of weeks. We can be competitive.
Competitive losses are pretty much all we want.....maybe a few more wins once it becomes apparent Norf have the spoon sewn up and we can't catch Hawthorn & West Coast because the kids still need to learn how to win....(knowing us I'm tipping we'll lose to the shyte teams around us and upset a couple of finals sides) :shh
Yep. Agree.
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Def agree Dio, with some exceptions. Must beat this mob and would have if we had a few more to choose from.
must beat the filth and scum if it means they miss on top 4, and dawks for dusty.
They are the only wins that im interested in. Honourable losses should suit the club this year. Losses like last week are unnaceptable.
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say it again the club needs to spend the cash and get the best around Yze just like we did with Dimma in 2017. Better assistant coaches, fitness and medical, recruitment team etc.
There is a good coach there the top 2 sides in the competition one we won and won we lost by 2 goals. Alot of kids improving under him just from simple reason of playing them in there natural position and backing them. What I like to yesterday he was adaptable to change coaching from the bench and moving a few players where we needed them.
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The bombing the ball out of defence and lack of movement on offence is a massive concern for me. Game plan is terrible
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The bombing the ball out of defence and lack of movement on offence is a massive concern for me. Game plan is terrible
That's poor skills for me and execution. Prime example is Short.
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say it again the club needs to spend the cash and get the best around Yze just like we did with Dimma in 2017. Better assistant coaches, fitness and medical, recruitment team etc.
There is a good coach there the top 2 sides in the competition one we won and won we lost by 2 goals. Alot of kids improving under him just from simple reason of playing them in there natural position and backing them. What I like to yesterday he was adaptable to change coaching from the bench and moving a few players where we needed them.
which kids have improved? you cant be including first year players who have just started playing because they naturally will improve coming from a low base of 0 games.
those wins or near wins agaisnt top 2 sides means sfa if you then lose to another finalist by 100 points. :shh
He has had a shocking first year with soft messaging IMO. Game plan is shocking. Playing guys like naismith and then telling us that guns like dusty has to leave some sort of legacy.
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He has had a shocking first year with soft messaging IMO. Game plan is shocking. Playing guys like naismith and then telling us that guns like dusty has to leave some sort of legacy.
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I don't want get into some sort of slanging match with you
But please show us where he said "Dusty has to leave some sort of legacy"?
He has spoken about the legacy Dusty will leave on the Club and how his work with the younger players is another legacy he will leave but have never heard him say he has to leave a legacy
Bit of difference I would think
So please share where he has said "Dusty has to leave some sort of legacy"
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Liked seeing him on the bench giving realtime feedback to the players.
Got to also say that I liked how we played tonight.
Much better effort from everyone.
Concur, plus I also liked him on the bench
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He has had a shocking first year with soft messaging IMO. Game plan is shocking. Playing guys like naismith and then telling us that guns like dusty has to leave some sort of legacy.
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I don't want get into some sort of slanging match with you
But please show us where he said "Dusty has to leave some sort of legacy"?
He has spoken about the legacy Dusty will leave on the Club and how his work with the younger players is another legacy he will leave but have never heard him say he has to leave a legacy
Bit of difference I would think
So please share where he has said "Dusty has to leave some sort of legacy"
But coach Adem Yze said the triple premiership champion’s “lasting legacy” would be his ability to fast-track the development of the club’s younger players.
“I think if you look at Shai Bolton’s form, Dusty’s got a fair bit to say in the way that he’s playing,” Yze said.
“He’s trying to impart his knowledge so the lasting legacy that Dustin Martin can have at this footy club is upskilling our younger players.
“So Shai looks up to him, a lot of our younger forwards look up to him, so for him to be able to teach them at training and obviously give them some insights on high performance and the way that he did it, like, they just soak it up.
“So if he could do that for our players for the next few years would be a lasting legacy and I know he enjoys it, but our players are just soaking that up.”
https://www.theaustralian.com.au/breaking-news/richmond-star-dustin-martin-ushering-in-next-generation-of-tigers-amid-run-of-losses/news-story/cfd975089c509ac2334db59a845e0952
Yze comes in and wants to start talking legacy and Dusty. He should stfu and continue to coach the way he did saturday and stop trying to be woke.That is my view.
Dusty doesnt have to do anything to anyone but play the best football he can.
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So he never did say "he has to"
What you posted proves that.
You've obviously taken every comment in that article a certain way and that's fine
But from where I sit he never once has said Dusty "has to to leave" anything he simply said he is helping the younger players and that will leave a lasting legacy on those players and the Club. And for that I'd go as far as to say that's a fantastic thing for those kids currently playing with him
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So he never did say "he has to"
What you posted proves that.
You've obviously taken every comment in that article a certain way and that's fine
But from where I sit he never once has said Dusty "has to to leave" anything he simply said he is helping the younger players and that will leave a lasting legacy on those players and the Club. And for that I'd go as far as to say that's a fantastic thing for those kids currently playing with him
you are free to take it how you want and i will how i want
he should have said nothing or used better words. End of story
dusty owes nothing to no one especially a new coach.
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say it again the club needs to spend the cash and get the best around Yze just like we did with Dimma in 2017. Better assistant coaches, fitness and medical, recruitment team etc.
There is a good coach there the top 2 sides in the competition one we won and won we lost by 2 goals. Alot of kids improving under him just from simple reason of playing them in there natural position and backing them. What I like to yesterday he was adaptable to change coaching from the bench and moving a few players where we needed them.
which kids have improved? you cant be including first year players who have just started playing because they naturally will improve coming from a low base of 0 games.
those wins or near wins agaisnt top 2 sides means sfa if you then lose to another finalist by 100 points. :shh
He has had a shocking first year with soft messaging IMO. Game plan is shocking. Playing guys like naismith and then telling us that guns like dusty has to leave some sort of legacy.
Miller, Hugo ,Brown, Campbell who gets credit for them Dimma you reckon ?.
Game plan is not shocking the problem is our level of skill and execution kicking etc is junior level. Add to that core if senior players leaving it to the kids to carry the side prime example Short.
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1-11, worst start in our 116 year v/afl history.
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Never looked more forward to trade week & the draft..... :help
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Credit where it's due.
The losses to Dogs and Lions were some of the most pathetic efforts I can remember.
Got us back to where we are for Dreamtime and vs Cats. Could have easily put up white flag and blamed injuries and just jogged through motions.
Balta down back had to happen but glad he did. Full credit last 2 games we've showed good signs.
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I know he is a first yr coach and still learning alot, but I love him being down on the bench with the players. There is enough experience in the box to communicate as needed. Yze to bench may be no coincidence to the change of performance by the players. Interacts with them so differently...look at Balta and his notebook talking with Yze as an example.
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I just want to give Adem a hug . No one could have predicted this nightmare. It’s actually astonishing we haven’t had more 100 point floggings .
I look forward to a time where he has a resemblance of his best 22 available.
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Yep as brutal a start as you could imagine. He has shown really good signs though imo and he will probably be better for it as will we as a club.
Just wanna see what he can do with a full strength list
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Yze highly acclaimed
Veteran Richmond defender Nathan Broad has poured praise on first-year Tigers coach Adem Yze.
In an interview with Channel Seven following Richmond’s rousing eight-point victory over Adelaide at Adelaide Oval last Thursday night, the triple premiership Tiger spoke glowingly about Yze’s coaching attributes.
“He’s just such a humble man. It’s all about the group, nothing about himself,” Broad said.
“But credit has got to go to ‘Oooze’. His coaching over this last month, and through these tough times, has been unbelievable.
“He comes in with a glass half full attitude and how we’re going to get better.
“He’s just been amazing, and I’m so stoked we could get a win for him now.
“He’s such a calm head on the bench . . .
“And the good thing about Ooze is he doesn’t think he needs to make all the solutions.
“He’ll ask the leaders, “What do you think?” And I think that’s a great trait to have as a coach, to bounce off your leaders . . .”
Another multi-Tiger premiership hero, Liam Baker, concurred with Broad’s assessment of Yze.
“He’s so calm . . . We’ve had a tough year and he’s still so calm, which helps us players. You don’t want to be coming down and your coach is going off at you. It’s settling us,” Baker said in his post-match interview on Channel Seven.
https://www.richmondfc.com.au/news/1573708/yze-highly-acclaimed
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Yze is a guest on The Front Bar tonight.
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Just chipped Malloy for calling Dusty's 300th his "send off"..... :shh
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So far well im concerned. Weather its him or the pervading sentiment of the club it seems to me they think we are not too far off. Its the injuries that have us where we are. Truth be said its now gunna be four years since our last premiership and way too much reliance has been placed on those premiership players to the detriment of kids especially this year.
Playing so many underperforming seniors week in week out when you are yet to build up that tight knit rapport with a group hence he doesn't owe any of them anything has alarm bells going off.
what the hell is going to happen when he establishes his own favorites.
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Why call him Adem when you can just call him Yze?
#TheFrontBar
Watch here: https://x.com/thefrontbar7/status/1800860278806163925
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Kicking 20 goals in a game in the country as a 16-year-old in board shorts.
Who hasn’t done that before? 🤯
#TheFrontBar
Watch here: https://x.com/thefrontbar7/status/1800857813109076218
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Adem Yze had managed 226 consecutive games.
Then he was left out by Neale Daniher.
He has a very good explanation why.
#TheFrontBar
Watch here: https://x.com/thefrontbar7/status/1800856629073911816
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Cheering on the toffs at tonight's game - unacceptable - has to go.... :thumbsdown
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Cheering on the toffs at tonight's game - unacceptable - has to go.... :thumbsdown
He's at a game supporting his best mate whose son's debuting
Yep it's disgraceful ::)
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Cheering on the toffs at tonight's game - unacceptable - has to go.... :thumbsdown
He's at a game supporting his best mate whose son's debuting
Yep it's disgraceful ::)
Yes it is - should be sacked on the spot. :thumbsdown
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Cheering on the toffs at tonight's game - unacceptable - has to go.... :thumbsdown
He's at a game supporting his best mate whose son's debuting
Yep it's disgraceful ::)
Yes it is - should be sacked on the spot. :thumbsdown
So tell me what's the difference when blokes currently working at other AFL clubs turned up for Dusty's 300th and were in our rooms .. should they be sacked by the club or should the RFC person who ok'd it be sacked?
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It's not a great look when your team is languishing. There are other ways to show support
Who are the toffs?
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Cheering on the toffs at tonight's game - unacceptable - has to go.... :thumbsdown
He's at a game supporting his best mate whose son's debuting
Yep it's disgraceful ::)
Yes it is - should be sacked on the spot. :thumbsdown
So tell me what's the difference when blokes currently working at other AFL clubs turned up for Dusty's 300th and were in our rooms .. should they be sacked by the club or should the RFC person who ok'd it be sacked?
Dusty's an all-time legend of the club that they played and won flags with...they weren't there just to watch his spud of a son jogging around for 5 minutes.... didn't see Hardwick there btw... :shh
It's not a great look when your team is languishing. There are other ways to show support
Who are the toffs?
Melbourne .... :shh
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No I think dio is right on this one.
We are sitting second last after a dismal showing for our best player in our generation. Yet he was seen watching another team? Not cool.
Start winning some games, or learn to show support in other ways.
As for Donna not attending Dusty. He doesn't give a stuff anymore.
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Gez pack of whingers here it's like Yze got a top 4 side lol reality check we're in a rebuild.
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I have no problems with him attending a game. Who cares
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exactly
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Standards have clearly slipped at the club & among the supporter base.... :shh
If Benny had any balls he would've texted "Don't Come Monday" to Yze's mobile before the final siren..... :shh :shh
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Snip
:banghead :banghead
Enough with the pathetic baiting of others posters. Take your feud off the forum
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My first reaction was this makes Adem look unprofessional. But it's not end of the world. Adam Simpson was supporting north the other week and thought same thing
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They are behaving consistently with their personalities. Loyal and genuine. Good blokes. Is that what makes a great coach?
Time will tell.
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CUMMINGS AND GOSSAGE RATE EVERY CURRENT AFL COACH’S TENURE OUT OF 10
SEN WA
8 July 2024
Adem Yze (Richmond)
Cummings: 3
“It’s not pretty for ‘Ooze’. I’ve given him a 3,” Cummings said on SEN WA Breakfast.
Gossage: 3
“He’s working with a very horrid list. I don’t see any upside and they’re going to lose a lot of experienced players. Martin, maybe Bolton, maybe Baker.
“If you reckon West Coast are in pain, Richmond are worse, but they have got three premierships under their belt.”
https://www.sen.com.au/news/2024/07/08/cummings-and-gossage-rate-every-current-afl-coachs-tenure-out-of-10/
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Gossage and Cummings wouldn’t have an IQ above 3 so stuff em.
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I doubt we will ever lose a game by 171 points like the Eagles did last year .
I’m looking forward to the inclusion of elite talent over the next couple of years , we will rise again.
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"Totally out of line..."
@HarfSerious says a certain bit of criticism being directed at Adem Yze is completely unfair.
https://x.com/RSN927/status/1815532817432072607
https://rsn.net.au/news/rsn-podcast/breakfast-with-harf/2024-07-23/out-of-line-harf-jumps-to-defence-of-adem-yze/661032
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Neil Balme hits back at criticism of Adem Yze
AUDIO: https://omny.fm/shows/breakfast-with-harf/neil-balme-hits-back-at-criticism-of-adem-yze-shar
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All criticism of this bloke is laughable.
1st season, ageing list approaching the cliff, ravaged by injuries with surely one of the worst performing S&C coaches in the league.
He's blooded kids and I've seen the players having a dip most weeks.
I'm happy.
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Brace yourself for next year Ooze….
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All criticism of this bloke is laughable.
1st season, ageing list approaching the cliff, ravaged by injuries with surely one of the worst performing S&C coaches in the league.
He's blooded kids and I've seen the players having a dip most weeks.
I'm happy.
He's only blooded the kids because he had no choice and half the time they were subs - that's why they're always the first to be dropped, no injuries and it would've been the same old bunch of under performing has-beens and hacks all year and we would've barely seen the kids....ironically the one "kid" he backed to the hilt was an obvious dud who's in his 5th season at the club.... :shh
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All criticism of this bloke is laughable.
1st season, ageing list approaching the cliff, ravaged by injuries with surely one of the worst performing S&C coaches in the league.
He's blooded kids and I've seen the players having a dip most weeks.
I'm happy.
He's only blooded the kids because he had no choice and half the time they were subs - that's why they're always the first to be dropped, no injuries and it would've been the same old bunch of under performing has-beens and hacks all year and we would've barely seen the kids....ironically the one "kid" he backed to the hilt was an obvious dud who's in his 5th season at the club.... :shh
What a load of bs mate . How many kids have improved under Yze ?. That's a lousy exuse because his had to play them.
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The post was lauding him for playing the kids as if he would've anyway had injuries not forced his hand - if you believe that then you're delusional.... :propeller
Whether this is down to him or the remnants of the Hardwick regime having too much say in selections we'll find next year when hopefully most of them have been moved on.... :shh
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The post was lauding him for playing the kids as if he would've anyway had injuries not forced his hand - if you believe that then you're delusional.... :propeller
Whether this is down to him or the remnants of the Hardwick regime having too much say in selections we'll find next year when hopefully most of them have been moved on.... :shh
Wouldn't go as far as saying I was lauding him, but yes we're getting games into kids. It's what you'd want and expect given the year we're having.
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I have no doubt he has been brought in as a development coach and don’t think he has much choice, success and age ( injury) has caught up with our list, you can’t make strawberry jam out of horse manure , embrace the rebuild 🫣
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The post was lauding him for playing the kids as if he would've anyway had injuries not forced his hand - if you believe that then you're delusional.... :propeller
Whether this is down to him or the remnants of the Hardwick regime having too much say in selections we'll find next year when hopefully most of them have been moved on.... :shh
Wouldn't go as far as saying I was lauding him, but yes we're getting games into kids. It's what you'd want and expect given the year we're having.
💯 common sense yet some believe it's because of injuries mainly.
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The post was lauding him for playing the kids as if he would've anyway had injuries not forced his hand - if you believe that then you're delusional.... :propeller
Whether this is down to him or the remnants of the Hardwick regime having too much say in selections we'll find next year when hopefully most of them have been moved on.... :shh
Wouldn't go as far as saying I was lauding him, but yes we're getting games into kids. It's what you'd want and expect given the year we're having.
💯 common sense yet some believe it's because of injuries mainly.
So you reckon these kids would've all been selected ahead of the likes of Lynch, Ross, Grimes, Hopper, Prestia , Pickett, Young, Naismith, Vlastuin , Graham etc..?..lmao like I said..delusional.... :propeller
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The post was lauding him for playing the kids as if he would've anyway had injuries not forced his hand - if you believe that then you're delusional.... :propeller
Whether this is down to him or the remnants of the Hardwick regime having too much say in selections we'll find next year when hopefully most of them have been moved on.... :shh
This i agree with.
My biggest gripe with him he has continually played horrible underperformers with immunity and i think the injury toll has been a good out for him on this. People are falling for it as well oh look he is playing a lot of kids when the reality is he has set a low standard for seniors and keeps playing them rather than being prepared to cop a hiding and play more kids. Most of the time ignoring kids who are performing in the seconds.
Keep playing so many underperformers at your peril. If not for injuries the whole season is a waste.
He needs to set a standard that is applicable not only to the younger players but to the seniors as well. Imo he has failed abysmally in this so far.
Personally i don't give a poo if we cop our share of beltings just as long as i can see we are actually embracing where we are at.
We have not done that imo not with a lot of our selected teams anyway.
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The post was lauding him for playing the kids as if he would've anyway had injuries not forced his hand - if you believe that then you're delusional.... :propeller
Whether this is down to him or the remnants of the Hardwick regime having too much say in selections we'll find next year when hopefully most of them have been moved on.... :shh
Wouldn't go as far as saying I was lauding him, but yes we're getting games into kids. It's what you'd want and expect given the year we're having.
💯 common sense yet some believe it's because of injuries mainly.
So you reckon these kids would've all been selected ahead of the likes of Lynch, Ross, Grimes, Hopper, Prestia , Pickett, Young, Naismith, Vlastuin , Graham etc..?..lmao like I said..delusional.... :propeller
First off some of those names are in our best, 22 Ross, Lynch, Hopper Prestia, and Vlastuin regardless of injuries.There not plodders. With the season we have had and with 2 wins it was no brainer to blood the kids it had to happen. The rejuvenation should have occurred 2 years ago.
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The post was lauding him for playing the kids as if he would've anyway had injuries not forced his hand - if you believe that then you're delusional.... :propeller
Whether this is down to him or the remnants of the Hardwick regime having too much say in selections we'll find next year when hopefully most of them have been moved on.... :shh
This i agree with.
My biggest gripe with him he has continually played horrible underperformers with immunity and i think the injury toll has been a good out for him on this. People are falling for it as well oh look he is playing a lot of kids when the reality is he has set a low standard for seniors and keeps playing them rather than being prepared to cop a hiding and play more kids. Most of the time ignoring kids who are performing in the seconds.
Keep playing so many underperformers at your peril. If not for injuries the whole season is a waste.
He needs to set a standard that is applicable not only to the younger players but to the seniors as well. Imo he has failed abysmally in this so far.
Personally i don't give a poo if we cop our share of beltings just as long as i can see we are actually embracing where we are at.
We have not done that imo not with a lot of our selected teams anyway.
Could have should have blessing in disguise injuries that's all hypothetical talk. The fact is there are heaps of kids in that side take a look. Before the whinging was where not playing the kids yet now the side is full of it . How many kids left in the vfl ?. The problem was that the previous regime didn't do it because rejuvenation of our side should have happened 2 years ago.
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Everyone deserves criticism in a new job. That's not asking for his sacking either.. if not then find a new job with different conditions
My criticism is his handling of guys like dow vrs others and his admiration for poor performances. That has to stop.25 tackles and yeah supporters will be proud? No we aren't proud of that rubbish.
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If we all agree the side has been decimated by injuries and young kids are getting games deserved or not, what are the remaining issues?
S&C people have a lot to answer for.
What's Yze supposed to do? Behave more angry in press conferences to appease the peasants?
My only issue with him really is debuting kids as sub. The rest is probably all somewhat out of his hands. He might get better in front of the cameras one day - doesn't come naturally to some - but he's not employed to do post game interviews?
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I think he is learning on the job , probably needs a few assistants with skills the compliment his style , like Leppa was to Dimma , or an experienced Mentor . I feel there is going to be rejuvenation on and off the field with a focus on development ,
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If we all agree the side has been decimated by injuries and young kids are getting games deserved or not, what are the remaining issues?
S&C people have a lot to answer for.
What's Yze supposed to do? Behave more angry in press conferences to appease the peasants?
My only issue with him really is debuting kids as sub. The rest is probably all somewhat out of his hands. He might get better in front of the cameras one day - doesn't come naturally to some - but he's not employed to do post game interviews?
he can start by saying the lack of pressure is unnaceptable instead of praising the players for having a go.
come on. Even dimma in his early pressers, or at least the ones i saw he spoke of this defensive mindset as a footy club.
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If we all agree the side has been decimated by injuries and young kids are getting games deserved or not, what are the remaining issues?
S&C people have a lot to answer for.
What's Yze supposed to do? Behave more angry in press conferences to appease the peasants?
My only issue with him really is debuting kids as sub. The rest is probably all somewhat out of his hands. He might get better in front of the cameras one day - doesn't come naturally to some - but he's not employed to do post game interviews?
he can start by saying the lack of pressure is unnaceptable instead of praising the players for having a go.
come on. Even dimma in his early pressers, or at least the ones i saw he spoke of this defensive mindset as a footy club.
Sometimes there's a lack of pressure but largely speaking I am seeing the guys have a go and fade late, as expected given the lack of maturity
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If we all agree the side has been decimated by injuries and young kids are getting games deserved or not, what are the remaining issues?
S&C people have a lot to answer for.
What's Yze supposed to do? Behave more angry in press conferences to appease the peasants?
My only issue with him really is debuting kids as sub. The rest is probably all somewhat out of his hands. He might get better in front of the cameras one day - doesn't come naturally to some - but he's not employed to do post game interviews?
he can start by saying the lack of pressure is unnaceptable instead of praising the players for having a go.
come on. Even dimma in his early pressers, or at least the ones i saw he spoke of this defensive mindset as a footy club.
Sometimes there's a lack of pressure but largely speaking I am seeing the guys have a go and fade late, as expected given the lack of maturity
cant argue with that, and i agree. I was more talking about the guys who have been around, as well as the Dow types.
There is nothing to be proud of with our senior players IMO. They have been rubbish this year for the most part.
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I don’t understand why people think a press conference attended by some of the stupidest, self interested assholes means anything.
I actually love the irony of Yze’s comments. Eff you AFL media.
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I don’t understand why people think a press conference attended by some of the stupidest, self interested assholes means anything.
I actually love the irony of Yze’s comments. Eff you AFL media.
Exactly
It's a waste of time
What good comes from a coach denigrating the kids?
I'm sure he's harder on them behind close doors
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If we all agree the side has been decimated by injuries and young kids are getting games deserved or not, what are the remaining issues?
S&C people have a lot to answer for.
What's Yze supposed to do? Behave more angry in press conferences to appease the peasants?
My only issue with him really is debuting kids as sub. The rest is probably all somewhat out of his hands. He might get better in front of the cameras one day - doesn't come naturally to some - but he's not employed to do post game interviews?
he can start by saying the lack of pressure is unnaceptable instead of praising the players for having a go.
come on. Even dimma in his early pressers, or at least the ones i saw he spoke of this defensive mindset as a footy club.
Sometimes there's a lack of pressure but largely speaking I am seeing the guys have a go and fade late, as expected given the lack of maturity
cant argue with that, and i agree. I was more talking about the guys who have been around, as well as the Dow types.
There is nothing to be proud of with our senior players IMO. They have been rubbish this year for the most part.
Actually one thing I've been unhappy about is how much game time Doe in headlights has been given over any other viable option such as McAuliffe or Sonsie in the guts
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I don’t understand why people think a press conference attended by some of the stupidest, self interested assholes means anything.
I actually love the irony of Yze’s comments. Eff you AFL media.
Exactly
It's a waste of time
What good comes from a coach denigrating the kids?
I'm sure he's harder on them behind close doors
The focus in what is said in pressers is mind boggling and just enables the general mediocrity in standards across the industry
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I don’t understand why people think a press conference attended by some of the stupidest, self interested assholes means anything.
I actually love the irony of Yze’s comments. Eff you AFL media.
i dont think he does it to pee the afl media off but thats me. At times especially before July i feel he is generally happy with the defensive output.
his demeanour in pressers has changed in recent weeks which has been a positive.
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I don’t think he cares. Because it’s irrelevant to what he trying to achieve. He’s living in the vanilla world of the afl media and refuses to be baited.
Doesn’t make him a great coach but neither does it make him a rubbish one.
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I reckon the club and footy department have left him in limbo this season. Has had media training ?. No one from the footy department has addressed this season besides continuously Yze. Livingstone was this week on the club website which was all spin. Alot of things gone wring have been at the club before Yze arrived and out of his control.Seems like people don't recognise this.
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Time to EFF YZE OFF
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Time to EFF YZE OFF
Ya know.
There’s a sack yze thread.
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Time to EFF YZE OFF
We all know you are a Carlton troll
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Time to EFF YZE OFF
We all know you are a Carlton troll
:shh
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Yze looks like he will be the first coach to give us a spoon. Nothing to be proud of IMO
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Yze looks like he will be the first coach to give us a spoon. Nothing to be proud of IMO
What the?
We've a few wooden spoons Frankie, what are you on about? :huh
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Pure stupidity in this thread. It's like Yze has top 8 side lool were a bottom 4 club and get ready for more pain. If our football department and board don't get there act together this off-season it will get worse. I have said it a number of times look above Yze also football department and the board they need accountability and previous regime. Alot of problems have been there before Yze arrived people got blinkers on. For me the club has left him to the wolves at times lack of support. We haven't had a first round pick for 2 seasons lool our first pick was pick in the forties last year. Add to that we got a senior core checked out bluggering out there. Our rejuvenation should have started 3 years ago.
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Yze looks like he will be the first coach to give us a spoon. Nothing to be proud of IMO
I want to have the 1st call on the best junior in the land. Ideally, 3 or 4 of the first ten as there’s some great midfield talent in this draft
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On the money Georgie , why Hardwick left the sinking ship , bad recruiting decisions , don’t even have an effective key forward
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Yze looks like he will be the first coach to give us a spoon. Nothing to be proud of IMO
I want to have the 1st call on the best junior in the land. Ideally, 3 or 4 of the first ten as there’s some great midfield talent in this draft
if we can split the 1 then i would agree with you. Does anyone actually want number 1 this year? By the sounds of thes phantoms the top 10 is so evenly split the first pick means sfa.
Yze looks like he will be the first coach to give us a spoon. Nothing to be proud of IMO
What the?
We've a few wooden spoons Frankie, what are you on about? :huh
it was a typo, Wake up
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The ego of Dimma going for a last gasp flag has left us in this position. A shocking run of injuries and young untried players what can you expect.
We have to stick fat with YZE, By all internal reports he is fantastic.
YZE will have the opportunity for a thorough overhaul at the end of the season plus our excellent draft hand, players returning from injury and the young Tigers showing some spirit I am definitely glass half full going into next year.
This season is done. No one likes losing but build a bridge and get over it.
As supporters we just need to be patient.
I would take the three flags and be in this position every time.
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I can cop losing coz of lack of cattle but this is uninspiring slop.
He better set some sort of vision next season or he will be on the scrap heap quick smart.
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You could see immediately how much damage Daicos was inflicting. Should have tagged him hard from the get go but not sure an of our players would have been up to it
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Go wide in attack, bomb long preferably to an outnumber in the oppo's favour, if the opportunity to go through the middle does present itself make sure not to spread and just bunch up and handball to players in a worse positions or just blindly to no-one in particular, apply as little defensive pressure as possible and allow as many uncontested marks as possible by taking zoning to a whole new level by playing at least 25 metres off your man at all times - inspiring stuff.... :clapping
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You could see immediately how much damage Daicos was inflicting. Should have tagged him hard from the get go but not sure an of our players would have been up to it
And tag him with who?
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You could see immediately how much damage Daicos was inflicting. Should have tagged him hard from the get go but not sure an of our players would have been up to it
And tag him with who?
Try short??
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Teague gone. That’s a good sign
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def a good sign from Yze, ooh but according to some Teague was doing a great job. LMFAO.
absolute dud. Morris next and Magic Meehan please
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For all we know he is being told to secure P1 and the pressers are just propaganda
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I’d be very disappointed if Morrow got the flick
From what I understand he’s been doing a great job with a skeleton crew
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For all we know he is being told to secure P1 and the pressers are just propaganda
If that's the case , that's loser mentality.. how many teams have become premiership teams because they had pick 1.. biggest bluff of all time!!!!
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You could see immediately how much damage Daicos was inflicting. Should have tagged him hard from the get go but not sure an of our players would have been up to it
And tag him with who?
Try short??
Hopper. Campbell. SOMEONE.
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Graham or Picket are our best taggers , anyway get your wins out of any of the kids performing like Brown on the weekend
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if they're our best i'd just go ahead and say we don't have a tagger
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For all we know he is being told to secure P1 and the pressers are just propaganda
If that's the case , that's loser mentality.. how many teams have become premiership teams because they had pick 1.. biggest bluff of all time!!!!
tend to agree with this. The only caveat to this is if we split the number 1 pick and grab 2 in the top 6 in an even draft. If we are simply tanking for that number 1 pick who no one at this stage can agree on then time will tell.
tigers - 0. Kruzer was pick 1 i think, Cotch 2.
hawks - 1. Hodge?, Buddy was 3 and Roughy 5, think Lewis was about 10, Micthel about 30
lions - 0, black 31, voss/aker i doubt they were number 1, Jono Brown 30, Power 5,
dogs had that dud who played one year then went all woke and wrote books. Bont was perhaps pick 5
Pies. Pendles, pick 5, de goey pick 2. Perhaps they had another number 1 in there but i cant recall.
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For all we know he is being told to secure P1 and the pressers are just propaganda
If that's the case , that's loser mentality.. how many teams have become premiership teams because they had pick 1.. biggest bluff of all time!!!!
tend to agree with this. The only caveat to this is if we split the number 1 pick and grab 2 in the top 6 in an even draft. If we are simply tanking for that number 1 pick who no one at this stage can agree on then time will tell.
tigers - 0. Kruzer was pick 1 i think, Cotch 2.
hawks - 1. Hodge?, Buddy was 3 and Roughy 5, think Lewis was about 10, Micthel about 30
lions - 0, black 31, voss/aker i doubt they were number 1, Jono Brown 30, Power 5,
dogs had that dud who played one year then went all woke and wrote books. Bont was perhaps pick 5
Pies. Pendles, pick 5, de goey pick 2. Perhaps they had another number 1 in there but i cant recall.
Could argue Daicos would've gone at pick one had he not been a father/son but Drew Banfield, Des Headland, Luke Hodge and Tom Boyd are the only #1 picks to have won flags and Boyd didn't win his at the club that originally drafted him.... :shh
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Benny asleep at the wheel with this apportionment. Been a disaster so far.
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Benny asleep at the wheel with this apportionment. Been a disaster so far.
Which alternative would have performed better?
Or are we judging by the plethora of meaningful press conferences?
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Guys, seriously are we jumping on the coach. Really?
Talk about a red herring.
If we want to take down some at the club, let’s start at the top
Benny was very critical at Dimma’s farewell presser “that we barely resembled Richmond on field”
The list looks second rate and Hartley’s been there forever
The are a raft off issues on player development, strength and conditioning which is ultimately headed up by Tim Livingstone.
Yze has been there for 5 minutes, based on Benny’s talk last year he was sold a “tweak” when the who thing needs rebuilding.
Incumbents have a bit more to answer for.
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Yze has been there for 5 minutes, based on Benny’s talk last night he was sold a “tweak” when the who thing needs rebuilding.
Incumbents have a bit more to answer for.
Hey HRT, where did Benny speak last night?
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Edit, “last year” he was very strong on us not rebuilding and getting back to our “DnA”. Need to get a bit right off field first Benny.
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Edit, “last year” he was very strong on us not rebuilding and getting back to our “DnA”. Need to get a bit right off field first Benny.
Do you think we'd have been more competitive this year if we had a healthy list?
As an aside, very rarely does a club boss come out and say anything that amounts to 'the list is F'd, we need to overhaul/rebuild it'. That would be a great way to slap your players in the face. You can go ahead with a rebuild, but never state publicly that your own club's administration has no confidence in the list delivering.
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Do you think we'd have been more competitive this year if we had a healthy list?
I know I'm in the minority but i absolutely believe we would have been more competitive with fully fit list. Think we would have finished somewhere between 7 and 10
Losing Lynch killed any chance we had... our forward line has been shambolic
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We'd still have been very average, IMO. Blokes like Broad, Short, Graham etc are no longer good enough to feature in a side that's close to finals contention. I think full strength we'd be between 12th-16th
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We'd still have been very average, IMO. Blokes like Broad, Short, Graham etc are no longer good enough to feature in a side that's close to finals contention. I think full strength we'd be between 12th-16th
All have slipped.
Broad coming off a BOG performance.
I suspect short will always struggle in a side that struggles.
As for the fridge well he's been average since 2018 mostly.
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Do you think we'd have been more competitive this year if we had a healthy list?
I know I'm in the minority but i absolutely believe we would have been more competitive with fully fit list. Think we would have finished somewhere between 7 and 10
Losing Lynch killed any chance we had... our forward line has been shambolic
Agreed. I had us missing the 8 but not bottom 6. So somewhere from 9-12.
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As for the fridge well he's been average since 2018 mostly.
2018 :huh
2019 goes back out with a busted shoulder in the preliminary and helps us get to the GF. Nearly every poster on this site lauded him for that performance
Was 2nd in the 2021 B&F behind Dylan Grimes
Whack the bloke as much as you want, it is clear he is in the top 3 of whipping boys this season but to suggest he's been mostly average since 2018 is drawing a rather long bow I reckon
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As for the fridge well he's been average since 2018 mostly.
2018 :huh
2019 goes back out with a busted shoulder in the preliminary and helps us get to the GF. Nearly every poster on this site lauded him for that performance
Was 2nd in the 2021 B&F behind Dylan Grimes
Whack the bloke as much as you want, it is clear he is in the top 3 of whipping boys this season but to suggest he's been mostly average since 2018 is drawing a rather long bow I reckon
Yep showed the heart of a lion that night and deserves respect for that effort.
I do think he has been mostly average though. There's a reason clubs aren't exactly knocking on the door for him. And as for 2021, well we were pretty average and that 2nd place means as much to me as Dan Jacksons BnF
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I do think he has been mostly average though. There's a reason clubs aren't exactly knocking on the door for him. And as for 2021, well we were pretty average and that 2nd place means as much to me as Dan Jacksons BnF
Just so I am reading it right
You're saying that Dylan Grimes winning in 2021 with the list we had in 2021 is on par with Daniel Jackson's BnF win and the list of that yeae?
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Not Grimesy, just Jack's placement. Every year there is a surprise placement and that was certainly 2021s effort with Graham being that high. In no way was he our 2nd best player
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Not Grimesy, just Jack's placement. Every year there is a surprise placement and that was certainly 2021s effort with Graham being that high. In no way was he our 2nd best player
So every other player's place in the 2021 count was right except for Graham's? Have I got that right?
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No, you haven't. We're talking about Jacky G. If you truly think he was our 2nd best player that's fair enough. Point was there's always odd placements. He was ok.
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No, you haven't. We're talking about Jacky G. If you truly think he was our 2nd best player that's fair enough. Point was there's always odd placements. He was ok.
If the coaches of that year deemed him to be the 2nd best player then who am I to argue? I actually though it was his best season.
You're right there are always placing that leave us doing this :huh3
I suppose you could say the sane about Short finishing in the top 10 over multiple seasons or KMac finishing equal 9th last year
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Got a bit of mail today that the players aren’t exactly loving him. But I’m happy to let him sit for a few years while we hit the draft.
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Players are sooks. They just want to blame someone else for their pooful efforts this year
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Players are sooks. They just want to blame someone else for their pooful efforts this year
Absolutely they are. Those who don't like him can turn off the lights on the way out!
Change is imminent. Get on the bus!
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Got a bit of mail today that the players aren’t exactly loving him. But I’m happy to let him sit for a few years while we hit the draft.
It looks and smells fishy whoever wants our clean your locker no one is bigger then the club. Lucky you count the senior plays on one hand who have performed this year.
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Got a bit of mail today that the players aren’t exactly loving him. But I’m happy to let him sit for a few years while we hit the draft.
I saw something along those lines somewhere on social media, might have been x (twitter)
Perhaps some of the favourites of the previous regime have their noses out of joint because no longer favourites :rollin
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Got a bit of mail today that the players aren’t exactly loving him. But I’m happy to let him sit for a few years while we hit the draft.
I saw something along those lines somewhere on social media, might have been x (twitter)
Perhaps some of the favourites of the previous regime have their noses out of joint because no longer favourites :rollin
Who tho? Coz they’re all still getting games
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Got a bit of mail today that the players aren’t exactly loving him. But I’m happy to let him sit for a few years while we hit the draft.
I saw something along those lines somewhere on social media, might have been x (twitter)
Perhaps some of the favourites of the previous regime have their noses out of joint because no longer favourites :rollin
Who tho? Coz they’re all still getting games
Just because you're getting a game doesn't mean you're still a favourite ;D
Reckon a lot of got games this year because of our injury list
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The grange that Buckley and Cotch took to his interview process certainly did the trick.
It’s a sea of red ink.
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Just hope Shortsteps is one of the unhappy players..... :pray
....though he shouldn't be with the amount of games he's been gifted this year.... :whistle
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Interesting tactics today - let's wait a quarter while we work out the best way to play Hawthorn, until then we'll just wing it in attack, be witches hats in defence and hope we can chase down the 50 point start........innovative stuff.... :clapping
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Just hope Shortsteps is one of the unhappy players..... :pray
....though he shouldn't be with the amount of games he's been gifted this year.... :whistle
Or his long probably highly priced contract. What a joke.
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Watch the post game press conference.
He’s clearly pretty angry at the players and leaders in particular. He alludes to a lot of turnover with the players this off season too, atleast that’s a positive.
Consider Lynch and Gibcus can stay healthy next year ( not something we should be relying on )
That changes the dynamic of our team. Allows balta to go back and solidify our defence. Gets Miller back in the vfl where he deserves to be imo.
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Watched the presser and all i can say is FINALLY!
clearly angry with the insipid effort of the 1st qtr, put the blame squarely on the leaders even admitted giving them a spray
Acknowledged the effort in the 2nd and part of the 3rd but said it didn't matter after what happened on the 1st qtr
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Watched the presser and all i can say is FINALLY!
clearly angry with the insipid effort of the 1st qtr, put the blame squarely on the leaders even admitted giving them a spray
Acknowledged the effort in the 2nd and part of the 3rd but said it didn't matter after what happened on the 1st qtr
Ill take a look
haven't watched because have got nothing from this bloke so far
Really like to her his plans and intensions kpis but all I've heard so far is crickets
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Watched the presser and all i can say is FINALLY!
clearly angry with the insipid effort of the 1st qtr, put the blame squarely on the leaders even admitted giving them a spray
Acknowledged the effort in the 2nd and part of the 3rd but said it didn't matter after what happened on the 1st qtr
Ill take a look
haven't watched because have got nothing from this bloke so far
Really like to her his plans and intensions kpis but all I've heard so far is crickets
He also blamed the media for putting too much pressure on the senior players , discussing whether they are leaving or not.. clear deflecting the facts that he knows he cannot coach
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Watched the presser and all i can say is FINALLY!
clearly angry with the insipid effort of the 1st qtr, put the blame squarely on the leaders even admitted giving them a spray
Acknowledged the effort in the 2nd and part of the 3rd but said it didn't matter after what happened on the 1st qtr
It appears from listening to what Yze said at the press conference that the players were told during the first quarter to slow it down but still set up at the stoppages for fast football and it was not until the quarter time break did they change that mindset. If that is correct the leaders of the club were not following coaching instructions.
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Interesting tactics today - let's wait a quarter while we work out the best way to play Hawthorn, until then we'll just wing it in attack, be witches hats in defence and hope we can chase down the 50 point start........innovative stuff.... :clapping
The Hawthorn game is a clear example of trying to implement a game plan in circumstances where we did not have the cattle capable of implementing it. Fast football requires precision and skill. It played right into the hands of Hawthorn.
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Watched the presser and all i can say is FINALLY!
clearly angry with the insipid effort of the 1st qtr, put the blame squarely on the leaders even admitted giving them a spray
Acknowledged the effort in the 2nd and part of the 3rd but said it didn't matter after what happened on the 1st qtr
:sleep
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He also blamed the media for putting too much pressure on the senior players , discussing whether they are leaving or not.. clear deflecting the facts that he knows he cannot coach
He didn't say that but hey believe what you want to believe to suit your narrative
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He also blamed the media for putting too much pressure on the senior players , discussing whether they are leaving or not.. clear deflecting the facts that he knows he cannot coach
He didn't say that but hey believe what you want to believe to suit your narrative
actually he kind of did just not in this presser. What he did say here was correct and that these players are contracted and we should not be talking about them. Baker and Greaham fair enough lets discuss them. Something like this. His last 2 weeks when addressing these stupid questions about contracted players have been correct.
That being said he has had a shocking year in his messaging to fans. I still dont know what he stands for. He needs to step up next year.
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He also blamed the media for putting too much pressure on the senior players , discussing whether they are leaving or not.. clear deflecting the facts that he knows he cannot coach
He didn't say that but hey believe what you want to believe to suit your narrative
actually he kind of did just not in this presser. What he did say here was correct and that these players are contracted and we should not be talking about them. Baker and Greaham fair enough lets discuss them. Something like this. His last 2 weeks when addressing these stupid questions about contracted players have been correct.
That being said he has had a shocking year in his messaging to fans. I still dont know what he stands for. He needs to step up next year.
No Frankie he was asked again yesterday about the same players and he gave the same answers which as you say are the correct wat to address them.
However, for someone to suggest that he was somehow blaming "the media for putting too much pressure on senior players" as a means to "deflect the facts" that he "cannot coach" is not was said in yesterday's presser
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He also blamed the media for putting too much pressure on the senior players , discussing whether they are leaving or not.. clear deflecting the facts that he knows he cannot coach
He didn't say that but hey believe what you want to believe to suit your narrative
actually he kind of did just not in this presser. What he did say here was correct and that these players are contracted and we should not be talking about them. Baker and Greaham fair enough lets discuss them. Something like this. His last 2 weeks when addressing these stupid questions about contracted players have been correct.
That being said he has had a shocking year in his messaging to fans. I still dont know what he stands for. He needs to step up next year.
Mate his be left to the wolves by the club for a first year coach lack of support by football department and a ceo checked out .They got a lot to blame.
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He also blamed the media for putting too much pressure on the senior players , discussing whether they are leaving or not.. clear deflecting the facts that he knows he cannot coach
He didn't say that but hey believe what you want to believe to suit your narrative
actually he kind of did just not in this presser. What he did say here was correct and that these players are contracted and we should not be talking about them. Baker and Greaham fair enough lets discuss them. Something like this. His last 2 weeks when addressing these stupid questions about contracted players have been correct.
That being said he has had a shocking year in his messaging to fans. I still dont know what he stands for. He needs to step up next year.
Mate his be left to the wolves by the club for a first year coach lack of support by football department and a ceo checked out .They got a lot to blame.
How many premiership players were in the team yesterday, and how many did Hawthorn have?
Stop making excusee
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He also blamed the media for putting too much pressure on the senior players , discussing whether they are leaving or not.. clear deflecting the facts that he knows he cannot coach
He didn't say that but hey believe what you want to believe to suit your narrative
actually he kind of did just not in this presser. What he did say here was correct and that these players are contracted and we should not be talking about them. Baker and Greaham fair enough lets discuss them. Something like this. His last 2 weeks when addressing these stupid questions about contracted players have been correct.
That being said he has had a shocking year in his messaging to fans. I still dont know what he stands for. He needs to step up next year.
Mate his be left to the wolves by the club for a first year coach lack of support by football department and a ceo checked out .They got a lot to blame.
How many premiership players were in the team yesterday, and how many did Hawthorn have?
Stop making excusee
Premiership ruckman Nankervis leading the way too
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He also blamed the media for putting too much pressure on the senior players , discussing whether they are leaving or not.. clear deflecting the facts that he knows he cannot coach
He didn't say that but hey believe what you want to believe to suit your narrative
actually he kind of did just not in this presser. What he did say here was correct and that these players are contracted and we should not be talking about them. Baker and Greaham fair enough lets discuss them. Something like this. His last 2 weeks when addressing these stupid questions about contracted players have been correct.
That being said he has had a shocking year in his messaging to fans. I still dont know what he stands for. He needs to step up next year.
Mate his be left to the wolves by the club for a first year coach lack of support by football department and a ceo checked out .They got a lot to blame.
How many premiership players were in the team yesterday, and how many did Hawthorn have?
Stop making excusee
How many of those premiership players have performed this season luckly 4 or 5 the others liabilities with turnovers or brain fades. Problem here people got blinkers on everything is on Yze nothing on the footy department or the hierarchy. 90% of our problems we're there before Yze walked in.
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Watched the presser and all i can say is FINALLY!
clearly angry with the insipid effort of the 1st qtr, put the blame squarely on the leaders even admitted giving them a spray
Acknowledged the effort in the 2nd and part of the 3rd but said it didn't matter after what happened on the 1st qtr
It appears from listening to what Yze said at the press conference that the players were told during the first quarter to slow it down but still set up at the stoppages for fast football and it was not until the quarter time break did they change that mindset. If that is correct the leaders of the club were not following coaching instructions.
Spot on 💯 and Broad backs it up
https://x.com/7AFL/status/1825058510477861179
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How many premiership players were in the team yesterday, and how many did Hawthorn have?
Stop making excusee
Eh, it's been 4 years since our last premiership.
Graham is a dual premiership player ffs lol. Almost 3!
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Watched the presser and all i can say is FINALLY!
clearly angry with the insipid effort of the 1st qtr, put the blame squarely on the leaders even admitted giving them a spray
Acknowledged the effort in the 2nd and part of the 3rd but said it didn't matter after what happened on the 1st qtr
It appears from listening to what Yze said at the press conference that the players were told during the first quarter to slow it down but still set up at the stoppages for fast football and it was not until the quarter time break did they change that mindset. If that is correct the leaders of the club were not following coaching instructions.
Spot on 💯 and Broad backs it up
https://x.com/7AFL/status/1825058510477861179
Makes you question our leadership though. Hopper, Taranto, Prestia and Nank are the leaders of the midfield… so we are doomed. Also short in the leadership group fmd
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Watched the presser and all i can say is FINALLY!
clearly angry with the insipid effort of the 1st qtr, put the blame squarely on the leaders even admitted giving them a spray
Acknowledged the effort in the 2nd and part of the 3rd but said it didn't matter after what happened on the 1st qtr
It appears from listening to what Yze said at the press conference that the players were told during the first quarter to slow it down but still set up at the stoppages for fast football and it was not until the quarter time break did they change that mindset. If that is correct the leaders of the club were not following coaching instructions.
Spot on 💯 and Broad backs it up
https://x.com/7AFL/status/1825058510477861179
Makes you question our leadership though. Hopper, Taranto, Prestia and Nank are the leaders of the midfield… so we are doomed. Also short in the leadership group fmd
Taranto played the first QTR at hff, another Yze f up. Once put back the the middle our game improved.. Taranto should be captain!!
Nank should have never been offered another contract.. he would have been a good ruck in the 80s
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Watched the presser and all i can say is FINALLY!
clearly angry with the insipid effort of the 1st qtr, put the blame squarely on the leaders even admitted giving them a spray
Acknowledged the effort in the 2nd and part of the 3rd but said it didn't matter after what happened on the 1st qtr
It appears from listening to what Yze said at the press conference that the players were told during the first quarter to slow it down but still set up at the stoppages for fast football and it was not until the quarter time break did they change that mindset. If that is correct the leaders of the club were not following coaching instructions.
Spot on 💯 and Broad backs it up
https://x.com/7AFL/status/1825058510477861179
Makes you question our leadership though. Hopper, Taranto, Prestia and Nank are the leaders of the midfield… so we are doomed. Also short in the leadership group fmd
Taranto played the first QTR at hff, another Yze f up. Once put back the the middle our game improved.. Taranto should be captain!!
Nank should have never been offered another contract.. he would have been a good ruck in the 80s
Taranto may be made captain by default due to all our appropriately aged and experienced players leaving. A change is needed but I guarantee you if Taranto is made captain all of his poor kicking and mistakes will be put under a microscope like Nank, as they should be.
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Taranto should play more HFF eventually so we can develop our young onballers-current & future- .......atm though when he leaves the guts we have no genuine extractors or ball winners apart from when Prestia's fit and turns back the clock for the odd quarter here & there (add to that Taranto's also our best tackler in the midfield)...be nice if all those games we wasted on Thomson Dud were instead put into McAulliffe and Sonsie playing on ball like he should be... :shh
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Taranto should play more HFF eventually so we can develop our young onballers-current & future- .......atm though when he leaves the guts we have no genuine extractors or ball winners apart from when Prestia's fit and turns back the clock for the odd quarter here & there (add to that Taranto's also our best tackler in the midfield)...be nice if all those games we wasted on Thomson Dud were instead put into McAulliffe and Sonsie playing on ball like he should be... :shh
Agree. Taranto played as a half forward at GWS at times and was very damaging. He is not a bad kick for goal. But at the moment we cannot afford to take him away from the guts when he is our best extractor and our best tackler in the midfield.
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Meantime, Kane Cornes also raised his concerns surrounding Tigers coach Adem Yze, who has guided his side to just two wins in 2024, with one game remaining in the home-and-away season.
"Geez he's been incredibly soft," Cornes said.
"He's been very soft."
The Tigers could jump into 17th on the ladder if they beat the Suns on Saturday afternoon at the MCG, and if North Melbourne lose to Hawthorn.
Source: Nine (https://www.nine.com.au/sport/afl/news-2024-richmond-tigers-ceo-brendon-gale-adem-yze-caroline-wilson-footy-classified-20240819-p5k3o6.html)
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Meantime, Kane Cornes also raised his concerns surrounding Tigers coach Adem Yze, who has guided his side to just two wins in 2024, with one game remaining in the home-and-away season.
"Geez he's been incredibly soft," Cornes said.
"He's been very soft."
The Tigers could jump into 17th on the ladder if they beat the Suns on Saturday afternoon at the MCG, and if North Melbourne lose to Hawthorn.
Source: Nine (https://www.nine.com.au/sport/afl/news-2024-richmond-tigers-ceo-brendon-gale-adem-yze-caroline-wilson-footy-classified-20240819-p5k3o6.html)
I take no notice of anything that cretin has to say about the Tigers, or pretty much anything else for that matter.
He's a flog of the highest order.
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A professional troll
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Is this our worst season in our history? :help :help
Not a great start to a career by Yze but not all his fault though probably a lot of factors in concert.
I personally would've loved to see more from the non-negotiable stats like excellent tacking technique and elite pressure or even have the fittest team.
These are things a team and a coaching staff can control from the moment preseason begins.
I'll try to be patient and will allow him time but I still want to see some improvement in those areas.
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So correct me if I am wrong BUT, I believe this is now Yze’s first opportunity to clean out the dross from his coaching staff, medicos, and really put his own stamp on decisions/ trades etc??
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Resigning Miller and Ryan is a massive failure
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Is this our worst season in our history? :help :help
Not a great start to a career by Yze but not all his fault though probably a lot of factors in concert.
I personally would've loved to see more from the non-negotiable stats like excellent tacking technique and elite pressure or even have the fittest team.
These are things a team and a coaching staff can control from the moment preseason begins.
I'll try to be patient and will allow him time but I still want to see some improvement in those areas.
Tackling and fitness are a priority
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So correct me if I am wrong BUT, I believe this is now Yze’s first opportunity to clean out the dross from his coaching staff, medicos, and really put his own stamp on decisions/ trades etc??
Fair call
Jimmy Bartel said last night on that Footy Furnace program that although it's been a horrible season for Yze it has given him the opportunity to see what the young players on the list have got and offer. Given him the opportunity to work out their best positions, are they starting 22-23 or in the next bracket? He went on to say that because of that it can fast track the rebuild as we know what types we need to target in the draft etc
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I'm not concerned at all for reasons I've already stated, but for the record;
- ageing list, retiring stars, many over the hill
- terrible injuries, thanks Meehan
- assist coaches to be addressed
- ongoing media + umpire hate
With a healthy list I could see us winning several more games but it is what it is.
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On top of that , he needs to develop a game plan , I’m guessing Caricella will help in that area
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Again behind the HUN's paywall
Gale: Big shift Yze must make to start Tigers’ rise
Brendon Gale has conceded Richmond coach Adem Yze “sat back a little” during his first season in charge — but has warned not to expect the same in 2025. SUBSCRIBE to find out more
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Basically said he's warming the seat for Grigg or Hodge.... :shh
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Ha come on.
I read it as yze was respectful of the old premiership stars and didn’t want to step on any toes whilst analysing the list and seeing where we are at. Obviously the answer is we are completely stuffed, which he now knows.
Hopefully onwards and upwards from here
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Basically said he's warming the seat for Grigg or Hodge.... :shh
Hodge would be massive
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I like Yze, but I'd be surprised if he bucks the trend of caretaker coach, which is what he feels like. It's why few highly qualified assistants didn't go for the role. He could do a Mitchell but Mitchell's benefited by a very good year this year. Another bottom 4 finish and he'd be under pressure next year.
Id love to be wrong as it would mean we succeeded in our rebuild quicker than normal. But will see.
Also think it's a bit of a drive by by Benny to say he say back a little. As CEO I would have thought that falls on you as behaviour accepted. But anyway. Onwards and upwards.
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Anyone know if Yze is into cycling? Pretty sure I just saw him cruise past me in Balaclava in the full lycra get up :lol
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Basically said he's warming the seat for Grigg or Hodge.... :shh
Hodge would be massive
Based on what? He may end of being a great coach one day but he hasn’t been an assistant for a single game to be able to make such a claim. If your going based on his playing career, then you don’t need to look any further than Voss for an example of why you shouldn’t always make that correlation.
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Anyone know if Yze is into cycling? Pretty sure I just saw him cruise past me in Balaclava in the full lycra get up :lol
Full Lycra? If true my opinion of Yze further plummeted :rollin
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Anyone know if Yze is into cycling? Pretty sure I just saw him cruise past me in Balaclava in the full lycra get up :lol
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:shh
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:shh :shh
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Anyone know if Yze is into cycling? Pretty sure I just saw him cruise past me in Balaclava in the full lycra get up :lol
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:shh
The thought of Adam in lycras. Pass
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Some of those players made clear as they departed that coach Adem Yze needed to take more control of a young group with more discipline and a defined game plan as well as working on his existing strong relationships.
There was a level of frustration that some players old and younger were allowed too many liberties around their professionalism and adherence to game plan.
The club is aware of the player feedback, even though senior players were also frustrated at Bolton playing on instinct and diverting from the game plan at times.
https://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/afl/trade-and-free-agency-preview-north-melbournes-triple-play-richmond-eye-draft-haul/news-story/160367f2902338819aa633c71ea4caac
Many of us thought he had really poo year and these player comments and the way they are wanting to leave is proof of that.
Lose balta ans fail this draft and he should walk out the door with him.
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Can anyone post full article, or specify who 'made it clear'?
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TIGERS IN LINE FOR EXTRAORDINARY DRAFT BOUNTY
Richmond will believe it is perfectly placed to head to the national draft with a phenomenal six selections in the first 21 draft picks as the club’s trades for three outgoing stars take shape.
The AFL’s free agency period kicks off on Friday, with compensation for St Kilda over Josh Battle’s departure the most intriguing question mark given a six-year Hawks offer of just under $900,000 a season.
But Richmond’s monumental decision to allow contracted players Shai Bolton (Fremantle) and Daniel Rioli (Gold Coast) to leave will shape the trade period, which runs from October 7-16.
Uncontracted vice-captain Liam Baker is also on the move but is yet to officially select a home as he chooses between West Coast and Fremantle.
Some of those players made clear as they departed that coach Adem Yze needed to take more control of a young group with more discipline and a defined game plan as well as working on his existing strong relationships.
There was a level of frustration that some players old and younger were allowed too many liberties around their professionalism and adherence to game plan.
The club is aware of the player feedback, even though senior players were also frustrated at Bolton playing on instinct and diverting from the game plan at times.
Departing chief executive Brendon Gale made clear in a recent podcast that Yze was prepared to “take a lot more responsibility” and “start to really put his fingerprints on this team” in 2025.
While Richmond is yet to lock in trades with rival clubs the centrepiece of those trades will allow Richmond to secure of footy’s best draft hauls in recent memory excluding expansion sides.
Richmond has asked Gold Coast for their No. 6 pick and another early selection for Rioli and while that seems a ridiculous ambit claim the Suns are prepared to hand over their No. 6 pick as part of a deal.
Fremantle is prepared to offer one of picks 9 or 10 for Bolton (contracted to 2028) and the Dockers’ No. 16 pick but not both of picks 9 and 10.
The Dockers are still hopeful Baker might choose the Dockers, which would see them use picks 9 or 10 to secure the 26-year-old.
But if Baker eventually chooses West Coast, the Tigers are likely to secure Hawthorn’s No. 13 draft pick after the Eagles secure it in a trade for Tom Barrass.
So while all of those deals could yet have many other elements — including Richmond even handing back later picks — the Tigers will believe they can secure four picks within 16 for that trio.
With their own picks currently 1, 21, 29, 39, 41, 47, 57, 66, 72, it will give Richmond six picks within 21.
Early bids on Brisbane’s Levi Ashcroft and Gold Coast’s Leo Lombard will push out some of Richmond’s draft selections.
But on draft night if the Tigers keep those picks they could hope to have two of the first seven picks, four of the top 15 picks and seven of the top 35 picks given they also retain pick 29.
If the Tigers can use picks like 29, 39, 41 and 47 and trade them to a club like the Suns or Gold Coast for an earlier to use for academy players they can again strengthen their draft hand.
Gale told a club podcast in August he was confident Yze would put his imprint on the club next year as it quickly bounced back up the ladder.
“We have had a coach come in. And we believe he’s extremely capable and he’s carried himself extremely well but it’s fair to say he comes into the program which has been successful,” he said.
“He is following a coach of historical standing (Damien Hardwick) and he has premiership players everywhere, and I reckon he’s just sat back a bit, coupled with an incredibly unprecedented run of injury. And what you will see of Adam next year is a coach that takes a lot more responsibility.
“This is his team and he will intervene and poke and prod and start to really put his fingerprints on the team which will create its own energy and momentum.
“At this stage there is an opportunity to turn this club around in a couple of years. We have a really strong platform, a strong organisation, a culture and shared understanding of what it takes and our own supporters understand what it takes. It’s not reacting, it’s making evidence-based decisions and we will be back in no time.
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Some of those players made clear as they departed that coach Adem Yze needed to take more control of a young group with more discipline and a defined game plan as well as working on his existing strong relationships.
There was a level of frustration that some players old and younger were allowed too many liberties around their professionalism and adherence to game plan.
The club is aware of the player feedback, even though senior players were also frustrated at Bolton playing on instinct and diverting from the game plan at times.
https://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/afl/trade-and-free-agency-preview-north-melbournes-triple-play-richmond-eye-draft-haul/news-story/160367f2902338819aa633c71ea4caac
That's very concerning if the report is accurate.
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Some of those players made clear as they departed that coach Adem Yze needed to take more control of a young group with more discipline and a defined game plan as well as working on his existing strong relationships.
There was a level of frustration that some players old and younger were allowed too many liberties around their professionalism and adherence to game plan.
The club is aware of the player feedback, even though senior players were also frustrated at Bolton playing on instinct and diverting from the game plan at times.
https://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/afl/trade-and-free-agency-preview-north-melbournes-triple-play-richmond-eye-draft-haul/news-story/160367f2902338819aa633c71ea4caac
That's very concerning if the report is accurate.
Doesn't help Bolton's trade value either
More leaks
Time and again these days
Titanic/iceberg
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Some of those players made clear as they departed that coach Adem Yze needed to take more control of a young group with more discipline and a defined game plan as well as working on his existing strong relationships.
There was a level of frustration that some players old and younger were allowed too many liberties around their professionalism and adherence to game plan.
The club is aware of the player feedback, even though senior players were also frustrated at Bolton playing on instinct and diverting from the game plan at times.
https://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/afl/trade-and-free-agency-preview-north-melbournes-triple-play-richmond-eye-draft-haul/news-story/160367f2902338819aa633c71ea4caac
Many of us thought he had really poo year and these player comments and the way they are wanting to leave is proof of that.
Lose balta ans fail this draft and he should walk out the door with him.
May be the case , but I have on good authority that Yze was telling them to play a certain way in training and some of the senior group didn't and we're stopped and given a bake on one certain occasion. Then game day again first quarter some of the players went away from it and told to adjust, and we we're back in the game.Still maintain we had a few bad apples in the senior group pulling the opposite way causingtrouble.The part of young players is bs they love him.
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Plus took down the flags posters artwork whatever, maybe premiership players didn’t like that, I think it’s great, have a clean out get draft picks, write his own story.
Looking forward to what he does doing draft and next years journey
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Some of those players made clear as they departed that coach Adem Yze needed to take more control of a young group with more discipline and a defined game plan as well as working on his existing strong relationships.
There was a level of frustration that some players old and younger were allowed too many liberties around their professionalism and adherence to game plan.
The club is aware of the player feedback, even though senior players were also frustrated at Bolton playing on instinct and diverting from the game plan at times.
https://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/afl/trade-and-free-agency-preview-north-melbournes-triple-play-richmond-eye-draft-haul/news-story/160367f2902338819aa633c71ea4caac
That's very concerning if the report is accurate.
How is it concerning? It was bleeding obvious all year that something was wrong. I'm glad its finally come out.
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He has a shocking year lets be honest. The best thing he has done all year is change tact half way through to stop peeing down fans back, and telling them its raining.
He could be done by the end of the 2025, esp if we have more leave.
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He has a shocking year lets be honest. The best thing he has done all year is change tact half way through to stop peeing down fans back, and telling them its raining.
He could be done by the end of the 2025, esp if we have more leave.
Agree with this. Also don't think it's panic stations.
The list is not good enough. Let's not do an Essendon and hover for 10 years. Bottom out collect 10-12 high end talent in a 3- 4 year period. Then the rest is up to development, lost management through free agency and nailing some rookies.
I don't think Yze survives 3 years and then the key will be to get a generational coach. Which may be Grigg, possibly Dew to get a proper crack, Carr, King, Lappin.
Then it's about the game plan.
We are miles off. The issues of today will be irrelevant when it matters.
What matters now is getting in best kids and ensuring they have every tool available to develop. Couldn't care less of a 28 yo+ is disgruntled. Only issue an issue is if it impacts on the development of under 22s.
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1 ours ,6 rioli,9 bolton,13 baker/barass,16 bolton,20 rioli ,21 ours,22 graham compo, 29 ours, 39 ours. Use them all.
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Graham will be end second round
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Graham will be end second round
Agree and we would be lucky to get that
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Graham will be end second round
This process can be manipulated, but I agree that's all he's worth and we're likely to get unless there's sneaky phone calls between clubs.
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Graham will be end second round
Thats his worth but we know he has been offered a four year deal. The length of contract and amount per year will determine what the compo is and i do believe no one knows how much that is.
Did we not offer him a long contract on pretty good coin? if so then we can expect WCE to be offering more.
If not 22 giving us potentially 20, 21, 22 consecutively . then 40 giving us 39 and 40 back to back. This draft those back to back picks are invaluable.
We either get overs or we get his real value. Win win.
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Graham will be end second round
Thats his worth but we know he has been offered a four year deal. The length of contract and amount per year will determine what the compo is and i do believe no one knows how much that is.
Did we not offer him a long contract on pretty good coin? if so then we can expect WCE to be offering more.
If not 22 giving us potentially 20, 21, 22 consecutively . then 40 giving us 39 and 40 back to back. This draft those back to back picks are invaluable.
We either get overs or we get his real value. Win win.
Media has reported that Richmond upped their offer to Graham and matched The 4 years that WC have offered as we only originally offered 2 years
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"I feel for Adem Yze, I think he has serious talent as a coach and you are sitting there now with all the senior players and Brendon Gale out the door...they have a lot of work to do and I don't know how quickly they can dig themselves out of it."
- Brad Johnson
Source: AFL Trade Radio twitter
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Support him with good staff
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Agree but few new coaches come into an easy stable gig.
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Five clubs urged to lure Longmire away from Swans
With the future of John Longmire in Sydney under a cloud, Kane Cornes has called for rival clubs to try steal the coach from the Swans.
"If I was a club thinking about changing my coach - and there's a few... Port Adelaide, Adelaide, Richmond, Carlton, Western Bulldogs..." Cornes said on AFL Trade Radio.
"If a club is just thinking in the back of (their) mind, 'Have we got the coach? Are we fully confident that this coach is our next premiership coach?'... I would pick up the phone now and start working on John.
https://www.msn.com/en-au/sport/other/five-clubs-urged-to-lure-longmire-away-from-swans/ar-AA1rNKYP
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Five clubs urged to lure Longmire away from Swans
With the future of John Longmire in Sydney under a cloud, Kane Cornes has called for rival clubs to try steal the coach from the Swans.
"If I was a club thinking about changing my coach - and there's a few... Port Adelaide, Adelaide, Richmond, Carlton, Western Bulldogs..." Cornes said on AFL Trade Radio.
"If a club is just thinking in the back of (their) mind, 'Have we got the coach? Are we fully confident that this coach is our next premiership coach?'... I would pick up the phone now and start working on John.
https://www.msn.com/en-au/sport/other/five-clubs-urged-to-lure-longmire-away-from-swans/ar-AA1rNKYP
Yeah nah prefer to win actually grand finals, not just make them..... :shh
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Will Adem Yze survive Richmond's rebuild as they cut deeper in this trade period?
@SENBreakfast | #AFL
https://x.com/1116sen/status/1843180708807754164?
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I don’t know where else to put this but I figured here since it was during dimma’s time. Listening to the Jesse hogan episode of dyl and friends and Jesse hogan had Richmond on a short list (with Sydney and Melbourne) as places he wanted to go post Fremantle but ultimately gws picked him largely because every other club declined prior.
I know hindsight is 20/20 but man we knew Jack was getting old and as if you wouldn’t roll the dice on a former #1 pick key forward
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Will Adem Yze survive Richmond's rebuild as they cut deeper in this trade period?
@SENBreakfast | #AFL
https://x.com/1116sen/status/1843180708807754164?
Another 1.5 years at least.
If the rebuild takes 5, maybe not.
Regardless, it's a silly question to be positing.
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"I feel for Adem Yze, I think he has serious talent as a coach and you are sitting there now with all the senior players and Brendon Gale out the door...they have a lot of work to do and I don't know how quickly they can dig themselves out of it."
- Brad Johnson
Source: AFL Trade Radio twitter
We don’t need your sympathy, pathetic 2 flag club we should feel sorry for you wasting that talent with a coach that makes his list a Frankenstein experiment
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no chance he survives without a competent strength and conditioning coach
And we still do not have one
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And we still do not have one
Patience is required no matter how frustrating it might be
Single biggest appointment for 2024 and they have to get right.
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‘Not the job he signed up for’: Big ‘fear’ over Tigers coach as brutal rebuild laid bare
Will Faulkner
Fox Sports
October 10th, 2024
As Richmond continue to manage the fallout of a mass premiership player exodus, concerns have been raised over the increasingly difficult task that coach Adem Yze now faces in 2025 and beyond.
Having taking the reins from three-time premiership coach Damien Hardwick this year, the Tigers managed just two wins in a year where the club was decimated by both injury and now a mass exodus of players retiring and requesting trades elsewhere.
And while there are no doubts over Yze’s prowess as a senior coach, the job at hand some believe may well be too much for any coach in his position.
Speaking on Fox Footy’s Trading Day, Glenn McFarlane expressed his fears over what the next couple of years may look like for Yze on the back of key playing departures.
“I fear for Adem Yze next year,” McFarlane begun by saying.
“They’re going to lose seven players; they’re losing the greatest player of all time (Dustin Martin), you’re losing a one-time captain in Dylan Grimes, you’re losing this year’s best-and-fairest winner (Daniel Rioli), your future captain in Liam Baker.
“This is not the job that Adem Yze signed on for.”
In addition to the quartet McFarlane flagged, the two-time premiership trio of Jack Graham (West Coast), Marlion Pickett (retired) and Shai Bolton (requested a trade to Fremantle) have established that they don’t want to be at Richmond in 2025.
The exodus comes after a frustrating year which saw the first-year coach dealt a run of injuries with players throughout all of 2024.
“He was stiff this year with injuries, that hurt him early on; coming in and all the injuries they had to senior players hurt the momentum for their season, they couldn’t recover from that,” Western Bulldogs great Brad Johnson added.
“If I was his management, I would be walking in the door and trying to get an appointment to talk about an extension.
“If we’re seriously looking at where they are at a football club now, he needs time to develop his list.
“He’s going to have all summer to put a game plan together with young kids and move forward; if that’s not showing something by half way (of next season), you’ll know whether this guy’s a good coach.” Trading Day panellist Scott Gullan added.
There is a world where Richmond own’s one-third of the top 24 picks in this year’s AFL draft, in what would be unprecedented with the exception of Gold Coast and GWS’ arrival into the competition.
RICHMOND’S 2024 DRAFT HAND (as of Thursday, October 8, 7am): Pick 1, 24, 32, 42, 43, 45, 51, 61, 70, 76
RICHMOND’S POTENTIAL 2024 DRAFT HAND: Pick 1, 6, 10, 14, 18, 20, 23, 24, 32, 42, 43, 45, 51, 61, 70, 76
“If you think about GWS and Gold Coast’s draft hands that they had at their peak (at their inception), that would be every bit better than any other club other than those two clubs,” McFarlane added.
For reference, GWS had 11 of the first 14 selections in the 2011 AFL draft, while Gold Coast had eight of the first 13 in 2010.
“With a draft hand like this, where he could have potentially four to five first-rounders of a draft that we’re all considering to be very good … you need three years then on top of that,” Johnson finished by saying.
“It’s tough to talk about where he’s at and where he’ll be in the future, because the (wins) won’t dictate his future unfortunately as a coach in the game; it’ll be more than that.”
https://www.foxsports.com.au/afl/afl-trade-news-rumours-2024-concerns-over-adem-yzes-job-in-2025-richmond-players-requesting-trades-and-retiring-liam-baker-daniel-rioli-dustin-martin-shai-bolton-what-are-their-draft-picks-reactions-latest-news/news-story/369759c8e718f8e6030d1837ed2d466a
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Mass exodus???
Beat up article, players retire and move on, tbh we are only looking at 3 players leaving, Graham I don’t count as he is not the future.
Yze and all coaches have seen at experienced this from junior football days.
It is what it is.
We just need to be patient, stick fat and trust the team that appointed Yze. All reports say he is a very good coach. Rioli, Bolton and Baker may have been headstrong and not liked instructions they were receiving and causing rifts within the playing group. Who knows?
Let’s hope we get a few good draft picks and a good injury free run next year.
Then we can see how Adam performs.
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Everyone could see this coming surely.
Even if the list stayed healthy we wouldn't have been pushing too hard for the 8 or at best would have finished 7-8th if we'd had a fit list with good form.
Guys like Grimes, Pickett, Dusty etc have been on the decline for a while.
This was coming for a while. 2022 finals series was probably the sort of 'best case' aberration I'm alluding to here. 2023 more likely the norm, bar we had a trade disaster.
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2022 was a really poor year, the writing was on the wall then. Taranto and Hopper wre meant to give us another tilt but they just papered over the cracks, 2024 was fall off the cliff.
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Adem Yze reflects on pre-season camp
(https://resources.richmondfc.com.au/photo-resources/2024/12/20/bdf1917d-4add-4b29-ba1f-8840613dfee6/gIiMMc7R.png?width=1240) (https://www.richmondfc.com.au/video/1706392/adem-yze-reflects-on-pre-season-camp)
https://www.richmondfc.com.au/video/1706392/adem-yze-reflects-on-pre-season-camp
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Who wants what? Every coach's New Year's resolution for 2025
- Alison O'Connor
afl.com.au
1 Jan 2025
ADEM YZE (Richmond)
Richmond was on the receiving end of the biggest influx of top-end junior talent to one club since Greater Western Sydney entered the competition in 2012, and all eyes are now on Adem Yze to see how he handles his haul of new talent. While it will no doubt be a delicate balancing act, Yze simply has to get the games into the kids, irrespective of how inexperienced that will make his side. Short-term pain for long-term gain, you might say. It's going to be a tough few seasons on-field for the Tigers as their young stars are introduced to the AFL, but patience will be key for the second-year coach.
https://www.afl.com.au/news/1263034/who-wants-what-every-coachs-new-years-resolution-for-2025
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From Damian Barrett's article on the AFL website:
At the start of 2024, first-year coach Adem Yze was proudly ordering the taking down of photos of premiership celebrations inside Richmond's Punt Rd headquarters. He was talking up a new era of success. He finished the year with gun players Shai Bolton, Daniel Rioli, Liam Baker and Jack Graham, as well as CEO Gale, all choosing new frontiers.
The conversations which were at play when Yze was appointed as Damien Hardwick's successor are null and void, and while very few people in football expect the Tigers to finish anywhere other than the bottom two rungs of the ladder in 2025, Yze will be under pressure to prove he is the right man for this monumental rebuild.
https://www.afl.com.au/news/1269801/barrett-huge-shake-up-looms-for-footys-coaching-landscape
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boy he needs to toughen up. This soft poo is cringworthy.
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It's no secret the decks have been cleared at the Tigers, who now have an influx of youth at the club. Coach Adem Yze ventured into Formula 1 territory to fast-track their rise back to the finals. The Richmond coach sat down with @Rebecca7Maddern.
@7AFL #7NEWS
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GkIdgNVaAAE1UJR.jpg) (https://x.com/7NewsMelbourne/status/1892129019514040493)
https://x.com/7NewsMelbourne/status/1892129019514040493
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I think of Yze as like an Albanian, Gen Y Chris Fagan. He might just do enough to get through the next 2 to 3 years and see us into that finals cycle or it might end up going all Justin Leppitsch. I suspect the relationship side of things Fagan enjoyed with those early years at the Lions will be his initial calling card. Whether that’s going to be enough remains to be seen
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He's an interim coach, whoever came after Halfstep was always going to be on a hiding to nothing and a sacrificial lamb set up to fail. :shh
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From Barrett:
(https://resources.afl.com.au/photo-resources/2020/11/17/8a4c2df0-2497-41a0-85ac-8cab8feed48a/richmond.jpg?width=1511)
IF ...
this time last year Adem Yze was ordering the removal of premiership celebration photos at Punt Rd but still talking up a "no ceiling" 2024 season ...
THEN ...
12 months later he finds himself in charge of a team which will be GWS 2012-like. Bolton, Rioli, Baker, Graham all bolted on him. This is going to be one almightily tough season for the second-year coach.
https://www.afl.com.au/news/1272356/sliding-doors-if-tom-de-koning-gets-an-injury-free-crack-in-2025-then
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Especially if he continues the way he has been with his softness.
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The full ADEM YZE interview on Talking Tigers!
(https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcQbXsTvSTtKVNLXiO-Jfr8BRAufR9z9kmxeeA&s) (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7nyvLlMBxnk)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7nyvLlMBxnk
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Takeaways from Adem on #TalkingTigers
* Jonty Faull aiming to be available R3-R4.
* Trezise to continue playing on the wing.
* Spoke highly of Trainor & Armstrong. Expect them to play R1.
* Lefau not far off full training. Expects him to be the first to return.
* Gibcus still no timeframe for return. Back running, not far off joining in drills.
* Juddy Clarke training as a winger. Was going to join in match sim this wk, but hurt his hip flexor.
* Lynch & Lalor still tracking for R1. Lalor won’t play in the match sim tomorrow, will do running instead, as will Lynch. If he gets through the main session on Monday, then he is locked in. Same plan for Lynch.
https://x.com/RFC_Centre
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How long can Adem Yze survive Richmond carnage?
Kane Cornes
SEN
5 March 2025
How much pain and carnage will the full-scale rebuild inflict on the proud club?
How long can Adem Yze survive if the losses keep piling up? That’s as simple as it gets.
We all think it’s a great idea on paper but is the reality far more severe than what it looks like.
https://www.sen.com.au/news/2025/03/03/cornes-and-kings-one-burning-question-for-all-18-afl-clubs
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The full ADEM YZE interview on Talking Tigers!
(https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcQbXsTvSTtKVNLXiO-Jfr8BRAufR9z9kmxeeA&s) (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7nyvLlMBxnk)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7nyvLlMBxnk
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Takeaways from Adem on #TalkingTigers
* Jonty Faull aiming to be available R3-R4.
* Trezise to continue playing on the wing.
* Spoke highly of Trainor & Armstrong. Expect them to play R1.
* Lefau not far off full training. Expects him to be the first to return.
* Gibcus still no timeframe for return. Back running, not far off joining in drills.
* Juddy Clarke training as a winger. Was going to join in match sim this wk, but hurt his hip flexor.
* Lynch & Lalor still tracking for R1. Lalor won’t play in the match sim tomorrow, will do running instead, as will Lynch. If he gets through the main session on Monday, then he is locked in. Same plan for Lynch.
https://x.com/RFC_Centre
If Trainor, Armstrong and Lalor debut next Thursday then that would give the fans something to watch.
I know we need to be cautious/patient, but we also need something to keep our interest and give us some hope this year.
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I am as interested in the development of Sonsie, Brown, Banks and hopefully Gibcus as I am in the first year players
It is those players along with the fringe players Seth Campbell, Mansell and even Tresize that will determine how quickly we bounce back.
The first year players will hopefully show some signs this year but I am really looking for them to bounce in seasons 2028 and beyond.
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The full ADEM YZE interview on Talking Tigers!
(https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcQbXsTvSTtKVNLXiO-Jfr8BRAufR9z9kmxeeA&s) (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7nyvLlMBxnk)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7nyvLlMBxnk
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Takeaways from Adem on #TalkingTigers
Those 3 debuting will be enough to keep me happy. Just have to ignore all the basic errors from our senior players.
* Jonty Faull aiming to be available R3-R4.
* Trezise to continue playing on the wing.
* Spoke highly of Trainor & Armstrong. Expect them to play R1.
* Lefau not far off full training. Expects him to be the first to return.
* Gibcus still no timeframe for return. Back running, not far off joining in drills.
* Juddy Clarke training as a winger. Was going to join in match sim this wk, but hurt his hip flexor.
* Lynch & Lalor still tracking for R1. Lalor won’t play in the match sim tomorrow, will do running instead, as will Lynch. If he gets through the main session on Monday, then he is locked in. Same plan for Lynch.
https://x.com/RFC_Centre
If Trainor, Armstrong and Lalor debut next Thursday then that would give the fans something to watch.
I know we need to be cautious/patient, but we also need something to keep our interest and give us some hope this year.
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Also thought it was odd no mention of Smillie
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Also thought it was odd no mention of Smillie
They said this week he won't play
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Yze’s Yellow and Black blueprint
Richmond coach Adem Yze has revealed the way he wants the Tigers to play in the 2025 season.
“All the good teams play a front-half game. I think we’ve got a pretty potent midfield and, hopefully, we can have some dominance around stoppage. That gives you first opportunity to play front-half footy,” Yze said.
“We want to be really stable in defence. I’m going to preach to our players, irrelevant of who’s in the team, we play a team defence, and you’re one cog in that system.
“So, there’s no reason why we shouldn’t be hard to play against on defence . . . really stable on defence, have a really potent offense and then we just need to change gears on offense.
“I think it’s been in our DNA at our footy club around playing fast. But when we did win premierships, the rules were a little bit different. You could play a spare behind the ball and just create counter-attack footy. But now with the 6-6-6, it’s hard to do that.
“We’ll have that part of our DNA that will come out in games, but at times we need to slow the game down and just possess the ball. So, we’re just trying to find a balance of both.”
Yze also defined what success looks like for the Tigers in 2025.
“Obviously when you’re going through an AFL season, there’s a win-loss column. So, that’s always going to be our focus, and we go into every game trying to win,” he said.
“We’re not going to put a ceiling on how many wins we’re going to try to come out of the season with. But for us this year, it’s going to be around growth.
“As a coach, you want to see growth in the way that you play, no matter what, whether you’ve won the premiership or not . . .
“We want to see growth all across our team . . . Whether it’s purely on offense, defence, stoppage, we want to see growth in all areas and all phases.
“And then we want to see growth with our players. They’re obviously going to get exposure because they’re young, and that takes time . . .
“We’ve got so many players that have played under 30 games that we’ve got to fast-track. Not only their exposure, but their development.
“So, the growth in each of our players needs to be individually, and then obviously as a team we want to see growth.
“We want to be competitive every week and be really hard to play against.”
https://www.richmondfc.com.au/news/1726095/yzes-yellow-and-black-blueprint
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Premiership teams the world over start from defence.
Feels like an Albanian Mattie Knights
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Premiership teams the world over start from defence.
Feels like an Albanian Mattie Knights
So we'll have a negative W-L record but still make the 8? I'll take it. :gotigers
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I'll be looking at our pressure, tackling technique and defensive work off the ball.
If it doesn't exist then that rests solely on the head coach.
And I'll be asking what he's been doing all off season.
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‘I don’t need an aura’: Yze hits back at ‘unfair’ criticism
Adem Yze has hit back at suggestions he lacks the “aura” to be a success as Richmond coach and explained why content released by the club doesn’t paint a true picture of who he is.
Paywall: https://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/afl/adem-yze-hits-back-toby-nankervis-defends-richmond-coach-amid-aura-criticism/news-story/690ccb1e9b992e39cb273449b62efd8e
ps. If anyone can post the full article it will be much appreciated :).
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he certainly lacks something.
It's not looking great so far, but its early days.
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he certainly lacks something.
It's not looking great so far, but its early days.
Apparently has lost huge parts of the playing group (won’t mention which player said this)
Started when he took down the photos and didn’t improve from there
The onfield “effort” and mass exodus last year would back this up
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he certainly lacks something.
It's not looking great so far, but its early days.
Apparently has lost huge parts of the playing group (won’t mention which player said this)
Started when he took down the photos and didn’t improve from there
The onfield “effort” and mass exodus last year would back this up
The photo thing really doesn't agree with me.
No reason you can't enjoy the glory without being complacent.
There were a lot of premiership players who contributed immensely to that trio of flags and if I was one of them I reckon I'd be annoyed.
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he certainly lacks something.
It's not looking great so far, but its early days.
Apparently has lost huge parts of the playing group (won’t mention which player said this)
Started when he took down the photos and didn’t improve from there
The onfield “effort” and mass exodus last year would back this up
I have herd the opposite that the younger group love him and his got a strong relationship.
I think last year we had a few senior players' with sour grapes in the senior group not pulling the same way checked out was clearly evident.
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he certainly lacks something.
It's not looking great so far, but its early days.
Apparently has lost huge parts of the playing group (won’t mention which player said this)
Started when he took down the photos and didn’t improve from there
The onfield “effort” and mass exodus last year would back this up
The photo thing really doesn't agree with me.
No reason you can't enjoy the glory without being complacent.
There were a lot of premiership players who contributed immensely to that trio of flags and if I was one of them I reckon I'd be annoyed.
The players even agreed to taking it down no issue for me it's not like there been thrown away just relocated in another place. Very simple it's a new era and new team
If players not OK with that harden up
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Adem Yze: I don't need an aura to be Richmond coach
Sayantan Guha
Sporting News
12 March 2025
Richmond coach Adem Yze has dismissed suggestions that he lacks the presence required for the role, insisting that his approach is built on clarity and connection rather than theatrics.
Former Port Adelaide premiership player Kane Cornes recently criticised Yze, claiming he had “no oomph and no aura” as a coach.
However, Yze, now in his second season at the helm, sees no issue with his style.
“I’m a people person. I could go and have a coffee with him. But it’s not about me,” Yze told The Herald Sun ahead of Richmond’s season opener against Carlton.
“I don’t need an aura when I talk to our players. I want our players to understand this is the way we play, this is our standards, this is where we need our footy club to get to.”
Cornes' remarks stemmed from a club-released video showing Yze addressing his players, which the Tigers coach insists was a controlled representation of his actual style.
“We put that content out. We’re trying to give our supporters (a chance) to feel like they’re coming on the ride with us,” he explained.
“You want them to come on a journey. But in saying that, when you’ve got a microphone on, you do know what you’re saying and you’ve got to be careful what terminology you’re using.
“I swear a lot, and in that, I didn’t. All those things. It’s not that it’s fake, but a lot of it isn’t purely exactly who I am. It’s tempered and it’s measured.”
This isn’t the first time Yze has been in Cornes’ crosshairs. Midway through 2024, the media pundit labelled him a “cheerleader” for celebrating on the bench with players during matches.
Yze admitted that, for a brief period previously, he allowed the external noise to affect him.
“I did get caught halfway through last year, we’d lost a heap in a row and I think it might have been Kane (Cornes) said something about me barracking, and being a supporter,” he said.
“Someone sent it to me and I’ve gone out of my way not to listen … I used to as a line coach but now, if I get caught in all that I reckon I’d be pretty drained by the end of the year.”
https://www.sportingnews.com/au/afl/news/adem-yze-richmond-coach/9635860af773afd0ddabf767
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He’s had the “kiss of cornes” put on him.
Bookmark this and count how many times Cornes comments that he can’t coach. This will lead to a ripple across the media and by middle of year, the old let’s sack the coach will become the back page story.
Now he’s spot on but still…
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New Richmond CEO comments on Yze’s apparent lack of aura
By Andrew Slevison
SEN
13 March 2025
Richmond’s Adem Yze has been criticised for lacking the aura required to be a successful AFL coach.
There has also been critique directed his way for being a “cheerleader” rather than a coach who has the presence to guide his players with assuredness and certainty.
Yze has already been defended by captain Toby Nankervis, who said the criticism was “unfair”, and now the club’s CEO Shane Dunne has also denied the insinuations.
Ahead of the Tigers’ Thursday night Round 1 clash with Carlton, Dunne firmly believes that Yze is confident in his own ability and comfortable in his role as the face of a rebuilding club.
“I haven’t read or heard it but I’ve certainly had plenty of people talk to me about aura,” Dunne said on SEN’s The Run Home.
“I was at a lunch today (Wednesday) and everyone was asking me about aura, so I better get my head around what aura is.
“From my perspective - and I sat in the team meeting (on Wednesday morning) - Adem has got a great presence in the room.
“The most important thing is he’s really articulate in the game plan and the players understand exactly what their roles are and what they need to do. He’s really confident in that.
“I’ve seen no issues with that at all. I think he’s in a really good position, he seems really comfortable having now had one season under his belt, he’s controlled the off-season.
“We couldn’t be more prepared for Round 1.”
https://www.sen.com.au/news/2025/03/12/new-richmond-ceo-comments-on-yzes-apparent-lack-of-aura