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General => General Discussion => Topic started by: mightytiges on June 05, 2006, 03:09:57 AM
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It was only a friendly (although our tackles weren't friendly lol) but way to go Socceroos this morning. 1-1 against Holland was a great result especially after how badly we were in the first half and being down to 10-men for the last 30 mins. No Kewell either. How good was Schwarzer and Timmy Cahill :bow.
With Kewell and Skoko to come back in we're a real chance to get to the second round if we can avoid those brain implosions in defence and make sure Viduka never takes a penalty ever again :-\.
Only 5 days to go!
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schwarzer was fantastic maybe we could get him for the international rules series later on this year
just hope we dont get too many more red cards
aussie aussie aussie
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schwarzer was fantastic maybe we could get him for the international rules series later on this year
just hope we dont get too many more red cards
aussie aussie aussie
Nah bring back Andy Kellaway for the IR :thumbsup.
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I dont think the Aussies have the calibre to roll Croatia. I think they will bully Japan into a result but the Cros are damn good at what they do. At the end of the day, the Aussies rely on too few to do the job. We saw Bresciano down on form today and well the midfield for me was terrible.
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Croatia is a good side and like the physical stuff as much as we do but they are a step down from Holland. It wasn't until Cahill came on that we sparked up in the midfield. We were also missing Kewell and Skoko who would be in our best 11.
We were owned and intimated in the first half and were lucky not to be 3 goals down. I felt we tightened up after halftime and were starting to trouble Holland up until Wilkshire on a yellow card already had a brain implosion and got himself sent off Tiatto/Muscat style. Holland's defence looked shakey when we got into the last 1/3.
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I think we'll miss out on the 2nd round. Brazil and the Cros are favorite.
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I've got Argentina in the office sweep. Have i got a chance. Anyone? lol
MT, you wanna run one for cash or just plain glory?
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Moi I think they're a big chance. The Argies have a very solid team this year. All they need to do is forget about the pressure put on them by their supporters and they should give it a good crack. In the past they have been noted for choking but I think things are different this time round. :pray
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Im gonna support the orthodox lol...so its Serbia & Montenegro for mine...in a huge upset.
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I've got Argentina in the office sweep. Have i got a chance. Anyone? lol
MT, you wanna run one for cash or just plain glory?
It starts tonight so a bit late to organise a sweep. Tiga's got a OER Dreamteam comp going though :thumbsup:
http://oneeyed-richmond.com/forum//index.php?topic=3198.0
You get to choose 15 players but only 2 from any one country. The likely winner will come from the big European nations and Brazil and Argentina.
ESPN has a good soccer site with the latest news and results:
http://soccernet.espn.go.com/section?id=worldcup&cc=3436
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Im gonna support the orthodox lol...so its Serbia & Montenegro for mine...in a huge upset.
They've got the group of death along with Argentina and Holland and Montenegro just gave Serbia the flick lol.
Go the Aussies :thumbsup but making the second round will be a major achievement. A soft spot for Italia (heritage) but I don't think they're good enough this time around. The Germans at home will be tough to break down so they're my surprise tip provided Ballack can stay fit.
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Im gonna support the orthodox lol...so its Serbia & Montenegro for mine...in a huge upset.
Careful Ramps, If Serbia and Montenegro Win, you'll have all the letters to spell 'Sam Newman'. :scream It could open a portal to hell. Then again it could mean nothing.
No pressure, but you could hold the future of the world in you're hands so choose wisely.
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Germany-Costa Rica 4-2
Poland-Ecuador 0-2
Ill call that Costa Rica will go through here....they have some quality players in the side, mainly Mr.Centeno the ex-AEK midfielder and ex-OFI power forward Ronald Gomez.
Jump on the Italians.....Trappatoni is long gone and they finally have a decent coach. This is our year....
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England-Paraguay 1-0
Trinidad-Sweden 0-0 :o
Way to go mon ;D. They have a Dutch coach like the Aussies so a good omen :thumbsup.
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The wait is over. Go Socceroos :clapping.
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Some advantages being a shiftworker - Time to sit back relax and watch the aussies kick some jap butt.
Hope it doesn't send me to sleep - lol :thumbsup
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Japan goal >:(
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Japan 1
Australia 1
Go Aussies
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2 - 1 Aussies
Tim Cahill (sp)
:bow
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frawleyen awesome - 2 goals in the last 8 minutes - most excited I have ever been watching soccer - :rollin
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3 goals in junk time
And i had the Aussies winning by 2 or more :shh
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was that better than sex.................... :shh
probably not ...but it was bloody good :bow
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83 minutes of Aussies playing boring dumb soccer then 8 minutes of brilliance :woohoo. Lucky but we'll take it :thumbsup.
Guess who has Timmy Cahill :bow in his dreamteam ;D :thumbsup.
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83 minutes of Aussies playing boring dumb soccer then 8 minutes of brilliance :woohoo. Lucky but we'll take it :thumbsup.
Guess who has Timmy Cahill :bow in his dreamteam ;D :thumbsup.
Me too. :thumbsup
MT, I didn't think it was boring dumb soccer. They players were playing to the coaches instructions and the setup was all wrong.Sure there were moments of dumb footy, like the long range kicks to nobody. However, As soon as Kennedy went on and gave us a second striking option we looked much more threatening. It also took some of the heat of VIduka. Not sure why Guus played Kewell down the middle. I think it was a fitness thing but we all know how lethan he can be down the left flank. I'm tipping a much different setup against Brazil in the first half. Japan did defend well in the first half but I think the fitness of the Aussies with the clever interchanges and more direct gameplan gave us the win for sure.
We'll learn from that game because if we don't...the Brazilians will slaughter us.
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MT, I didn't think it was boring dumb soccer. They players were playing to the coaches instructions and the setup was all wrong.Sure there were moments of dumb footy, like the long range kicks to nobody. However, As soon as Kennedy went on and gave us a second striking option we looked much more threatening. It also took some of the heat of VIduka. Not sure why Guus played Kewell down the middle. I think it was a fitness thing but we all know how lethan he can be down the left flank. I'm tipping a much different setup against Brazil in the first half. Japan did defend well in the first half but I think the fitness of the Aussies with the clever interchanges and more direct gameplan gave us the win for sure.
We'll learn from that game because if we don't...the Brazilians will slaughter us.
I agree with what you say tiga but we kept wanting to play the ball through the middle of the pitch instead of getting it out wide to the wings (especially down the left) and behind the Japanese defence. We played some predictable and dumb stuff. Long balls from our half up the middle to our centre forwards are easy to defend against. It was like Spud was our manager lol. All credit to Viduka and Kennedy for having such great games that they able win the ball outnumbered and hold up it at times and score a free kick. It was ironic that it took a Japanese defensive clearance to the touchline to force us to attack from the left side and the long throw-in resulted in Cahill's first goal.
Guus putting on Kennedy was a great move as Viduka was continually being isolated and his hard fitness regime paid off in the end as we ran over the Japanese. But there were some odd positioning and moves out there last night. Kewell, Emerton and Wilkshire were all played out of position and unless Brescianno did have an ear infection it was a odd move to take him off instead of Wilkshire or Emerton. Totally agree tiga we need a different set-up for the Brazil game. Play like we did for most of last night and we'll get thumped.
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What an amazing night, i went down to The Linc in Essendon to watch the game. There a decent crowd there to watch the game and it was worth the trip by the end of the game.
I stood near a table of Essendon footballers who appeared to be having an early Mad Monday :shh
Everyone sang the national anthem with great voice and everyone cheered each time we went close. The atmosphere was electric when we levelled the game and then went a ahead the play was rocking. I have been totally caught up in the emotion of it all and was cheering as if it was the Tigers playing off in the Grand Final.
I feel pretty stuffed tonight after getting very little sleep and having to work today.
Bring on Brazil :thumbsup
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What can I say? The Aussies left me gob-stopped. I dont rate the NT but I was chewing on my words last night. I was very impressed with last night's performance ALTHOUGH I get bitterly frustrated at the continual lack of support for our overrated striker in Dukes. I swear Aloisi has copped it hard over the years and with the emergence of Kennedy, I would be please to see two up front against the Cros.
Great performance....it was watchable football and I must say that I was pleasantly surprised.
BTW the Japs were sloppy and terrible. I didnt expect them to be so 'rough around the edges'. Simple things like passing to a guy when he has space IN FRONT OF HIM would have left the Aus NT dead and buried.
For Ramps, u will not see my opinion of this game on any other forum lol!!!
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Let's hope Brazil wins in a few hours and then Japan and Croatia draw. Then we only need a draw against Croatia and we're through to the second round no matter what happens in our game against Brazil.
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Just reading at Everton FC how there is massive argument about trading Cahill. The debate was pretty even until after his recent double in the World Cup.
Now most of them want to keep him at all costs. Talk about going from Houlihan to Simmonds in just a couple of hours of footy. :lol
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Brazil won (just) so everything is going to plan so far. Now for a Croatia-Japan draw.
Just reading at Everton FC how there is massive argument about trading Cahill. The debate was pretty even until after his recent double in the World Cup.
Now most of them want to keep him at all costs. Talk about going from Houlihan to Simmonds in just a couple of hours of footy. :lol
Cahill's value has probably shot up a cool $10 million :yep. Everton may have to watch their backs with the big clubs circling for gems from the World Cup.
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Croatia are looking pretty good. Unfortunately I think the result will be more like 3-0. Hopefully the Japs will play better againts the Cro's and get us the draw we need.
What I'd like to see MT, is at least a draw against Brazil. I've jagged the Monday off from work so I can't wait. I'm hoping the Brazilians are overconfident and haven't done their homework on us and we at least slug out a 0-0 draw. :pray
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Was Ronaldo the one who said he couldn't name one Socceroo? Hopefully the other Brazilian players take us similarly for granted. In the MX yesterday that had the Brazilian coach saying he wasn't surprised we won as we had knocked out Uruguay. The Croatia-Japan game is before ours so we'll know what we'll have to do.
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2-0 flattered England although Gerrard produced another beauty (a la FA Cup style). They were pushed all the way by Trinidad and could have been behind at half-time if Terry didn't save off the line.
Geez I would love us to last long enough in the comp to play them.
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OI...OI...OI....
:rollin
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We're giving them too much possession in our own half but 0-0 with 30 mins gone is fine by me.
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Viduka awesome footwork :bow
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Go Aussies :thumbsup
Kewell still to come on too.
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Goal Brazil :'(
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Kewell does a Richo
What a chance missed
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Stuffed up two chances :banghead. All Kewell had to do was hit it along the ground ??? and it was a goal.
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Phew :whistle
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10 minutes to pull off another miracle.
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How close was Viduka :P. Just can't finish off our good chances :-\.
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stuffing Fred :banghead
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They did well - missed opportunities
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Socceroos didn't deserve to go down 2-0. The only difference was Brazil took their opportunities and we didn't. The Aussies missed a couple of sitters :-\.
Oh well. A draw or win against Croatia and we're through to the second round anyway.
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How many free kicks did Brazil get, you coulnt even breath on them.
Soccer has no hope of taking over in Australia.
Good effort by the Aussies though, lets take down Croatia :thumbsup
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How many free kicks did Brazil get, you coulnt even breath on them.
25-9 according to SBS. Kewell went ballistic at the referee after the game and might get a yellow card for his troubles.
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Kewell went ballistic at the referee after the game and might get a yellow card for his troubles.
FIFA are thinking of suspending Harry :o.
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He would only play half a game even if he's not suspended - he's no-where near fit.
It's a pity he earns so much money otherwise they might just fine him - no amount of fine would hurt him - he will be extremely fortunate to not get suspended. The referee was over zealous and imho affected the way the Aussies played, as when Ronaldo held the ball before their first goal - they held off him, too wary of giving away a free.
Harry was well out of order.
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Grella was extremely lucky not to get even a yellow card for his tackle with his studs up into a Brazilian players shin but apart from that the Referee was too whistle happy. The Referee penalised Viduka a number times when all he was doing was holding his ground to hold up the ball.
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When Fred came on I heard him say "Right!!" on the ground mic.
"I'm a model, you know what I mean and I do my little turn on the catwalk"
Sorry for the bad joke. :help
The ref killed all chances of us having a flowing game. We go from an Egyptian ref against the Japs to Europe's #1 ref against Brazil. He would almost be on a first name basis with most of the Brazilian's. Rent a Ref I hear you say?? It was like wathing a mother protecting her child from the local playground bully. Gimme a break!!! :wallywink :banghead
I wouldn't be surprised if the ref for our game against the Cro's is Kofi Annan. :lol
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Harry has been cleared to play in this Friday's game against Croatia.
Justice!!!!! :thumbsup
Stick it up em Harry
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Go Harry :thumbsup
Doesn't matter if he plays, i had a dream last night and Spain and Italy will play off in the final lol
I had to look up the standings and they're going all right.
Cheers
NostraMoi
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Harry's a lucky boy :clapping.
You've got love the "there were 'irregularities' between the referees" comment. Only 16 of the 25 frees paid against the Socceroos were shown to be not frees at all :whistle.
Bring on Croatia :thumbsup.
Doesn't matter if he plays, i had a dream last night and Spain and Italy will play off in the final lol
Someone's got the Mediterranean on the brain lol ;).
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Kewell's Cup gets a referee's decision he likes
By DAN OAKES, MICHAEL LYNCH, MICHAEL COCKERILL and MATTHEW HALL
AUSTRALIA'S hopes of making World Cup history by reaching the second round were given a massive boost last night when Harry Kewell was cleared of his abuse of referee Markus Merk.
The star striker faced a ban for telling Merk, "You are f---ing s--t", moments after the Socceroos' loss to Brazil on Monday. A ban would have ruled him out of the all-or-nothing clash with Croatia on Friday morning.
Kewell was angry with the way the German referee controlled the game, in which he gave Brazil 25 free kicks to Australia's nine.
Kewell was cleared on a technicality, with a FIFA spokesman describing reports from match officials as "inconsistent". While referees are allowed to give red or yellow cards after a game, Merk did neither at the time.
FIFA is also understood to be furious with Merk for telling Kewell he would not play in the match against Croatia, leaving the official open to accusations of premeditation in reporting Kewell.
"He basically said, 'Your World Cup is over', and that Harry would not play again," said a teammate, speaking on condition of anonymity.
FIFA insiders suggest Merk changed his story when he realised that his own role at the World Cup may come under threat after his performance officiating in the game, including his failure to issue Kewell with a red or yellow card at the time.
Kewell is understood to have been furious after the 2-0 loss because Merk was congratulating Brazilian players on their win.
Australian Professional Footballers Association boss John Didulica — the brother of Geelong-born Croatian goalkeeper Joey Didulica — helped construct the legal argument that cleared Kewell.
He said that had FIFA suspended Kewell the whole culture of the sport would have been turned on its head because he would have been outed on a decision made by someone other than the referee after the match had finished.
"The referee's power to sanction players rests on his ability to issue red and yellow cards which lead to suspensions. There are other ways for the referee to act against players but they are applied in different circumstances, where players can be charged for bringing the game into disrepute," Didulica said.
Football Federation Australia chief executive John O'Neill said the federation was "enormously grateful for FIFA's wisdom".
http://www.theage.com.au/articles/2006/06/20/1150701554785.html?from=top5
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Good onya Harry calling a spade a spade! :thumbsup Couldn't have said it better myself. Gee he must have felt good saying what he said and getting away with it. I'm sure there's a few AFL umpires that deserve the same sort of spray.
ROFLMAOOOO@Merk freaking out and changing his story because he realised he had stuffed up and was on the verge of being booted out of the World Cup himself. :wallywink
If there was a pool match to be played in Siberia, Merk would be officiating for sure.
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YESSSSSSSSSSSSS!!!!!!!! :woohoo
Harry delivers when it matters :thumbsup.
What a farce of a game though. Another referee blind as a bat who can't count. Simunic got 3 yellow cards and we had 2 definite penalities not given ::). The Pom refs are usually pretty good but what a joke tonight.
Speaking of Simunic - he's done a Nathan Buckley :rollin.
Guus please put Schwarzer in goal. Talk about heart in your mouth stuff with Kalac whose nerves got the better of him and his fumbling hands :help.
Lucky none of that cost the Socceroos in the end. Bring on Italia and Lygon Street lol :thumbsup
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Really enjoyed watching the cup - don't know much about the game but have managed to watch all games.
Those last 10 minutes this morning was the most nail biting stuff.
If we lose to Italy, do we go out or what happens? Not that i'm expecting to lose after what i've seen. The Aussies have been more than competitive, even against Brazil. I would hate to see a game come down to penalty shoot outs, especially if we have that goal keeper we had today there lol.
Go Aussies, you've done us proud.
:bow
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If we lose to Italy, do we go out or what happens?
They are out of the comp. It's all knock out stuff now.
I am not a soccer fan - find it rather boring especially when there is no scoring but the final 8 minutes was exciting - thanks mainly to Kalac's performance - even when throwing the ball in, in the last 3 minutes he turned it over.
In hindsight the selection of Kalac was a great thing for Australia - we canot afford not to play Schwarzer and Kalac playing proved that :thumbsup ;D
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I really enjoyed the game this morning. I agree with you MT! Another crap performance by the Ref. They're actually making our maggots look good. :lol Maybe they need a referee's world cup beforehand to weed out the dead wood.
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LOL tiga. I'm sure the Italians will get their choice of Ref :rollin.
I just hope now that the Socceroos aren't satisfied with just making the Round of 16. It's a great effort given it's the first time Australia has made it but the fans should be the only ones in celebration mode. Let's hope we can do a North and South Korea job on the Italians :thumbsup.
The American coach must be feeling like a right old goose now we're through and the USA aren't. LOL @ them getting a top 10 FIFA ranking. What a joke those rankings are.
I would hate to see a game come down to penalty shoot outs
My soccer pet hate. They might as well toss a coin. They should just let them play on with no substitutions allowed and first goal wins.
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Just over 30 minutes to go. Bring it on! :thumbsup
Btw did anyone hear the Harry Kewell song based on Boney-M's "Daddy Cool" played on SEN yesterday arvo? The guy in it who takes off Guus is brilliant :lol.
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Phew, good save Swartzer (sp. :pray
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So many opportunities the Italians have had - scary stuff
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How cruel :banghead
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:'(
Yes it was cruel but we have only ourselves to blame. We dominated once we had the extra man but didn't use it to our advantage and we were too slow passing the ball around and we did stupid long balls that were easily picked off especially by the world class of an Italian defence. It's no different to Aussie Rules. If you move the ball slowly then that allows the opposition to flood back. We missed the class of Kewell. We played dumb in the last 30 minutes and they picked us off in the last minute on the counter. A shame as this side was good enough to get past Switzerland or the Ukraine and at least make a semi final :'(. A wasted opportunity even if before the tournament we would've been estactic to make it to the round of 16.
As for the penalty - yeah it was 50/50 but the send off was also 50/50.
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What a poo game soccer is :(
Not a hope in hell that it will take over AFL in this country.
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What a shame to end like that.I must admit that i have been enthralled by our campaign.I have always enjoyed soccer and followed the English Premier league mainly yet i think the so called"beautiful game" has some glaringly obvious flaws such as one referee to control the match and timekeeping inefficiencies.
The main attraction is that it brings out patriotism in us at the international level , but in terms of excitement and entertainment value, nothing comes close to Aussie Rules. :cheers
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I am little confused as to why all the callers on talkback this morning were moaning about the Italian blokes dive. ::)
Players have been doing it for years - it's a weekly occurence in the EPL and many a game have been decided that way. Until the refs have the guts to stop awarding these sort of weak penalties it will always happen.
What I do hope comes out though from an AFL footy perspective is that all of the leagues perennial divers like Matthew Lloyd and Brad Johnson - realise how pathetic that sort of play is and the reason they get bagged for it is because it's not the way game (any game for that matter) should be played
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I'm gutted! Enough said. :'(
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As someone who started going to local soccer from the age of 3...sitting on my old mans shoulders at the old Middle Park watching South Melbourne give some decent seeing too's to the opposition, I gotta say that I think the Aussie boyz should be proud of there performance. What showed this morning is they are pretty naive in terms of football at the international level, nevertheless the learning should be fantastic experience. Viduka for all his reputation isnt that good at international level for us, I agree with OM21 that Australia should be using Kennedy and Aloisi as the front 2, Bresciano, Grella, Cahill, Emerton, Kewell make up a very decent middle 5, whilst Neill is someone you can use as a leader at the back. Australia has most of the squad it needs for the next World Cup. We just need to find 4 or 5 players to add to the squad, hopefully the Asian Cup educates them about how cut throat it all is. Anyway, we should be proud of them all and I hope to see you all at South Melbournes next home game at Bob Jane Stadium. South is was and always will be Australia's greatest soccer club, and thats why the Victory are scared to play us. So jump aboard the South express and we may even chat about the Tiges lol over afew beers.
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I'm gutted! Enough said. :'(
Can understand how you feel tiga.
Agree Ramps we should be very proud of the Aussie boys :thumbsup
No one gave us a chance in hell and we got to the 2nd round.
Not being a soccer expert I always thought that if we could win a game in the group stage and not get spanked by Brazil we would have done well.
From the results we got - we did better than well I reckon
It's a pity though that we no longer have Guus - he's been very good for Aussie Soccer :thumbsup
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Agree Ramps the Socceroos have a promising core but we need to find a world class striker or two. Someone who has the class to finish and make something out of nothing. Kewell and Cahill can make something out of nothing but they are attacking midfielders not strikers. We also need to add pace to the team. We missed Kewell and Emerton badly last night in that department.
I am little confused as to why all the callers on talkback this morning were moaning about the Italian blokes dive. ::)
Players have been doing it for years - it's a weekly occurence in the EPL and many a game have been decided that way. Until the refs have the guts to stop awarding these sort of weak penalties it will always happen.
I think people are just letting out their disappointment because the Socceroos let an excellent opportunity to progress further slip. Once Neill missed the ball and went to ground he was a sitting duck. The Italian could have avoided him if he wanted to but as you say WP it's common practice for the attacker to make contact and go to ground and then leave it up to the Referee. Any soccer player in that situation would do the same thing where the team was a man down, physically tired with still 30 mins to go if it went to extra time and there was an opportunity to con a penalty in the last minute to win the game. The Italian played the percentages. On Sunday we'll see Didak fake for frees everytime he goes near the ball and con the umpire making us do this -> :banghead.
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the italians are hard nosed professional pricks and thats why they won. The important thing for Australia now is to get a good coach. For mine big Phil Scholari (Portugals current coach and the man who took them to the final of Euro 2004- where they were humbled by the greeks ;D is the man Id get to coach us.
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Whilst we were very good defensively, I agree with others here that our strikers lacked imagination and communication. I remember seeing Viduka back heel a ball in the box to nobody. That summed it up for me. If Harry was on, he may have drilled it into the net but who knows. I agree with MT in that we were too slow in attack. The Italians passing game was superb, especially the long accurate passes from the back half straight to their strikers feet was a delight to watch. That's something we need to learn for the future.Also their header control was exceptional. Very rarely did I see an Italian header go to an Aussie. Basically in a nutshell it was the mongel in our defensive line with Neill & Chipperfield that kept us in the game and nothing else.
Early on there was some very impressive quick passing by us but that disappeared and we reverted to chipping it around trying to break the perfectly drilled italian defensive line without success. Grella for mine was terrible and possibly the main reason for our slow advancement. Yes, Kennedy should have started. He always looked more dangerous than Viduka when on the field.
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A topical clip of the Italians training camp for the World Cup ;D
http://oneeyed-richmond.com/images/other/worldcup/ItalianTrainingCamp.mpg [Size: 2.5 Mb]
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More footage of the Neill-Grosso incident ;D
(http://oneeyed-richmond.com/images/other/worldcup/italiandive.gif)
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Secret Italian training session exposed.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ccDyp2aRRCg
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:'(
Yes it was cruel but we have only ourselves to blame. We dominated once we had the extra man but didn't use it to our advantage and we were too slow passing the ball around and we did stupid long balls that were easily picked off especially by the world class of an Italian defence. It's no different to Aussie Rules. If you move the ball slowly then that allows the opposition to flood back. We missed the class of Kewell. We played dumb in the last 30 minutes and they picked us off in the last minute on the counter. A shame as this side was good enough to get past Switzerland or the Ukraine and at least make a semi final :'(. A wasted opportunity even if before the tournament we would've been estactic to make it to the round of 16.
As for the penalty - yeah it was 50/50 but the send off was also 50/50.
being an italian-australian this match was weird to watch. it was like watching the possibles v the probables at tigerland.
i have not missed a world cup series since 1982, and can assure you the italians have had a rough deal with refs many times, i know how the socceroos feel after this world cup....but...in this game , the ref was not cruel, and didnt get it wrong. yes the italian exaggerated teh trip, but it was an illegal way of blocking that neill did, he went to the floor and turned his back on the player and did not connect with the ball at all. the fact that he went down and slid so early across him and turned his back was eveidence that his main focus was not on the ball, and that in soccer is a foul. matarazzi was sent of very early in the 2nd half and if u watch the replay he did not even connect with bresciano, bresciano's acting was by far the best act of the game which caused the red card.
now 4the biggest misconception of the game, all journos here are repeatedly saying the aussies were the better team and incontrol of the game, that is rubbish and all propaganda. yes austrlai dominated possession , but thats because italy let them, remember they were one man down for 40 minutes and when italy do this, they flood back , build a wall and are happy to give possession time to their opponents. but even in the second half , italy had more realistic shots on goal, shots on goal and corner kicks!!! so who dominated the game , italy did, australia just dominated possession time. woudl have been nice and a gr8 fairy tale if australian won, but italy just had too much class and experience. cannavaro killed veduka , was veduka actually there. this game could have been very ugly , being realistic, and if the italians radar was a bit better and if shwartzer wasnt so switched on, it coudl have easily been a 5-0 game.
the thumb sucking business that totti did was directed at guus the bs coach who was outcoached and outsmarted by lippi. guus 4 yrs ago when coaching sth korea, called the italians babies after they appealed the loss to sth korea in penalty shoot out. the italians kicked 2 goals that game , both legit, but both called offside, not by the linesman, but by the central ref, replays showed the goals were good and the ref was wrong. after the game abd protest hiddiink called teh italians sooks, i guess totti had a good memory.
i dont like hiddink, he is a bs mercinary, does not give a poo about teh team, just the contract
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being an italian-australian this match was weird to watch. it was like watching the possibles v the probables at tigerland.
i have not missed a world cup series since 1982, and can assure you the italians have had a rough deal with refs many times, i know how the socceroos feel after this world cup....but...in this game , the ref was not cruel, and didnt get it wrong. yes the italian exaggerated teh trip, but it was an illegal way of blocking that neill did, he went to the floor and turned his back on the player and did not connect with the ball at all. the fact that he went down and slid so early across him and turned his back was eveidence that his main focus was not on the ball, and that in soccer is a foul. matarazzi was sent of very early in the 2nd half and if u watch the replay he did not even connect with bresciano, bresciano's acting was by far the best act of the game which caused the red card.
It wasn't worth a red card but Bresciano was clearly checked. Materazzi stepped across Bresciano's path with no intention of going for the ball. Clear professional foul but it should have only been a yellow. Neill slid to block a shot at the near post. Grosso cleverly held off on the shot then once he saw Neill committed he pushed the ball pass and with Neill stranded on the ground Grosso fell over him. Neill didn't initiate the contact. I've seen them given and not given so I'm not complaining about the penalty. The Socceroos lost the game in the last 20 minutes with their lack of speed and creativity in attack.
now 4the biggest misconception of the game, all journos here are repeatedly saying the aussies were the better team and incontrol of the game, that is rubbish and all propaganda. yes austrlai dominated possession , but thats because italy let them, remember they were one man down for 40 minutes and when italy do this, they flood back , build a wall and are happy to give possession time to their opponents. but even in the second half , italy had more realistic shots on goal, shots on goal and corner kicks!!! so who dominated the game , italy did, australia just dominated possession time. woudl have been nice and a gr8 fairy tale if australian won, but italy just had too much class and experience. cannavaro killed veduka , was veduka actually there. this game could have been very ugly , being realistic, and if the italians radar was a bit better and if shwartzer wasnt so switched on, it coudl have easily been a 5-0 game.
But the Italians did miss shots despite dominating the first half. Toni should have had 2 goals but headed badly wide with the first and then hit the second good chance at Schwarzer. No excuses for failing to score just like missing set shots in Aussie rules. Sure the Socceroos could have been 2-0 down at half-time but if Chipperfield had aimed his clear shot either side of Buffon the Socceroos could have punished Italy to be 1-0 up. In the second half once Materazzi was sent off it was all Australia. The game was played mostly in the Italian half but the Socceroos lacked creativity and supporting runs. That's why Viduka was well beaten. He was contiually isolated by lack of midfield runs from behind. We didn't move the ball around at pace to put pressure on the Italian defence. Often we played lazy long high balls instead of getting the ball wide quickly and behind the Italian defence. When we did get a corner they were poorly executed. The Socceroos also stupidly didn't care if the game went into extra time given the lack of substitutions. It backfired. The Socceroos beat themselves.
the thumb sucking business that totti did was directed at guus the bs coach who was outcoached and outsmarted by lippi. guus 4 yrs ago when coaching sth korea, called the italians babies after they appealed the loss to sth korea in penalty shoot out. the italians kicked 2 goals that game , both legit, but both called offside, not by the linesman, but by the central ref, replays showed the goals were good and the ref was wrong. after the game abd protest hiddiink called teh italians sooks, i guess totti had a good memory.
I remember that game and yep the Italians got robbed big time. Soccer needs to come into the 21st century as far as crucial referee decisions. There should be some means to go to a video ref for 50/50 decisions like they do in Rugby League. This world cup has been a farce with the shocking refereeing. Brazil was allowed a momentum changing goal against Ghana when Andriano was clearly offside.
i dont like hiddink, he is a bs mercinary, does not give a pooh about teh team, just the contract
IMHO Guus likes the challenge of taking on countries that had failed to reach their full potential - South Korea, Socceroos and now Russia - and getting the most out of the squad. Sure it's good for his hip pocket and CV but if he didn't produce he wouldn't keep getting chased after. I'm sure his native Holland would have gone further with Guus in charge. He's a very good organiser of a team. Lippi isn't one for loyalty either. Sheesh he's coached nearly every big club in Italy. It's a coaching merry-go-round over there lol. I wonder how many referee phone numbers he has in his little black book. Seems a prerequisite for top Italian clubs in Serie A now lol ;).
If I were in charge of the FFA I would agree with Ramps and chase after Scholari.
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not wrong about the italians coaches, and really who would want t o coach the italians! lippi and past coaches just never sleep serene! the stress that goes with teh job is crazy and teh expectations enough to drive you you mad and fear 4 ur life!
i am really proud of how australia went , in 4 yrs , we will be stronger, but 4 me, even being an italian. afl comes first! AFL is everything! afl is teh beautiful game! there will be around 80k ppl at the g on sunday, 2 of teh most loyal cray perochial teams in australia! win lose or draw, one thing is guaranteed, their will be no riots after the game, no carnage, no flairs no bs! and fans from opposing teams can sit next to each other and watch the game! can and does this happen in soccer? no! so as i said , afl is the beautiful game!
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not wrong about the italians coaches, and really who would want t o coach the italians! lippi and past coaches just never sleep serene! the stress that goes with teh job is crazy and teh expectations enough to drive you you mad and fear 4 ur life!
i am really proud of how australia went , in 4 yrs , we will be stronger, but 4 me, even being an italian. afl comes first! AFL is everything! afl is teh beautiful game! there will be around 80k ppl at the g on sunday, 2 of teh most loyal cray perochial teams in australia! win lose or draw, one thing is guaranteed, their will be no riots after the game, no carnage, no flairs no bs! and fans from opposing teams can sit next to each other and watch the game! can and does this happen in soccer? no! so as i said , afl is the beautiful game!
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Pie supporters are too scared of the Grog squad behind the Punt Road goals to start anything :rollin.
About 4 years ago I was at the Rd 1 Richmond-Collingwood match and the guy sitting next to me had brought 3 of his visiting English mates to see Aussies Rules for the first time. They just couldn't believe supporters just sat anywhere and intermingled. They had no idea what was going on lol but they really enjoyed the banter between opposing supporters at close range which they never get at home. They also couldn't believe how cheap going to the footy was either. The EPL does have twice as many home games compared to the AFL but at that time the cheapest season ticket to watch Arsenal at Highbury was around 700 pounds or A$2000 :o.
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Argentina out on penalties!
Or as the Goodies say - Don't cry for me Marge and Tina ;D.
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Argentina out on penalties!
Or as the Goodies say - Don't cry for me Marge and Tina ;D.
and italy are through!!! goodbye germany!!! they have never beaten the italians!!! lets hope france can beat brazil !!!
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and italy are through!!! goodbye germany!!! they have never beaten the italians!!! lets hope france can beat brazil !!!
Italy hitting form at the right time although the Socceroos would have got past Ukraine. A missed opportunity to make the semi-finals for the Aussies. Toni had his radar on last night X ;).
Deutschland were my tip at the start of the WC and I still think they will win it because of home ground advantage. The Germans are hard to beat at home. I have a soft spot for Italy for family reasons so wouldn't mind seeing them win it though. I hope Portugal gets through on the side of the draw because they have never won the WC.
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and italy are through!!! goodbye germany!!! they have never beaten the italians!!! lets hope france can beat brazil !!!
Italy hitting form at the right time although the Socceroos would have got past Ukraine. A missed opportunity to make the semi-finals for the Aussies. Toni had his radar on last night X ;).
Deutschland were my tip at the start of the WC and I still think they will win it because of home ground advantage. The Germans are hard to beat at home. I have a soft spot for Italy for family reasons so wouldn't mind seeing them win it though. I hope Portugal gets through on the side of the draw because they have never won the WC.
my tip at the start was a portigal italy final with portugal winning on penalty shoot out because thats teh only way the italians usually lose big games!
italy have not lost a game in normal time in the world cup for as long as i remember, its always penalty shoot outs.
germany dont play fair, they have two polaks winning 4 them
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FORZA ITALIA!!!!
FORZA AZZURI!!!
ITALIA ITALIA ITALIA
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LOL. They're going to win the bloody thing now X.
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LOL. They're going to win the bloody thing now X.
we hope so! i know they beat australia, but if they win, at least australia can say they took it right up 2 the world champions!
imho, italy now deserve to win it, they have only conceded 1 goal in the tournament, and that was a freakish own goal v usa, that rarely happens. italy have now been undeafeted 26 games in a row, thats pretty good form, and beating the germans on their home turf in a stadium they have never lost in is a fair effort.
terry should use that with the tigers at aami this w/e!!!! anyone can win away from home if they stick to the plan and have their heads switched on
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The Frogs will beat Italy I reckon, but if Portugal beats the frogs then Italy will beat Portugal.
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The Frogs will beat Italy I reckon, but if Portugal beats the frogs then Italy will beat Portugal.
the frogs are in, but they reaklly have not been in flash form, if ppl think italy faked a dive to geta penalty v aust, u should see teh gr8 act france did to win one v portugal!!!
italy are in better form, have not lost a game in 26 str8 internationals, they just beat the host nation in a vebue that they have never been beaten in.
italy have the structure and players to win. but if it goes penalty shoot out, the italians can kiss it goodbye.
i have a feeling italy will win, they will reep vengance v th efrogs who beat them in the euro final a few yrs ago by plucking a goal out of their clackers.
regardless who wins, the final 4 teams were european teams, which does suggest that europe is the king of soccer not sth america
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French round of 16 and qtr finals form was nothing short of scary. Semi Final was not good, so it depends on which French team turns up I think. ZiZu plays his last international in the final. Will be interesting to see how he influences the game. His last 3 games have been awesome to watch. If Henry gets his run timed right...or Ribery is let loose for 10 seconds, look out.
Should be a good game regardless...neither team holds feelings from me, but I hope it caps off a sleepless 4 weeks from me in style :sleep
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regardless who wins, the final 4 teams were european teams, which does suggest that europe is the king of soccer not sth america
No Sth American team has ever won the world cup when it's been held in mainland Europe and no European team has won it outside of Europe.
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regardless who wins, the final 4 teams were european teams, which does suggest that europe is the king of soccer not sth america
No Sth American team has ever won the world cup when it's been held in mainland Europe and no European team has won it outside of Europe.
true but brazil only beat italy in the usa cos of penalty shoot out. italy were the better team that game, deserved to win, baggio was on one leg , kneee stuffed and it was a shame everyone blamed him 4 the loss cos he got them there in the 1st place. italy should win, dont worry about zizu, pirlo is the man to watch, and gattuso will make life hard for the french champion captain, zambrotta, is also a danger for the french and i hop edel piero gets a run at some stage as he is pure class
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From what I seen - It is up to who can put on the best diving display.
I was into it while Australia were playing, but now couldn't give a rats - It really is a Frawley game .... and soon it will dissappear from our media for another 4 years - :thumbsup
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Italy are a dour, boring defensive team who advocate a style that stifles individual expression. I hope they get beaten and beaten well. As a Tottenham fan I dislike some of the French players, but at least they try to play in the right spirit. Zidane is a maestro.
“Football is about glory, it is about doing things in style and with a flourish, about going out and beating the lot, not waiting for them to die of boredom” - Danny Blanchflower.
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about the diving, when bresciano dived beautifully and caused an italian to be red carded, no one whinges about that! this is what frustrates me about australians who have no idea about the game, an italian gets red carded (when he didnt even touch bresciano) and everyone says nothing. australians dive too! and lucas neill did fould on grosso, u watch the reverse angle footage and its very clear, neill slid right into grosso ankle and made contact! end of story. australia have become just a nation full of sooks and whingers.
italy have only conceded 1 goal all tournament, an own goal , a freak of nature, they have been the best team all tournament. australia beat a crap japan, lost to brazil when brazil were in 1st gear, and drew with croatia who arent that good, and australia believes they deserved to go further, pigs arse.
now italy dont play boring, they have a strong and gr8 defensive game, but as we saw v germany , they have the skill, and talent to create gr8 results. seria A in italy is by far the best in teh league, the standard there is better and tougher than the premier league(no english player is good enough to make seria A) better than the spanish,german and sth amrican leagues. why do all the best players want to play in italy, because its the best comp with the most money, the french team that won 8 yrs ago , was a team of players that at the time all played in italy. ZZ was a juventus player, italy makes all these players, even the gr8 maradonna played in italy.
another thing, italy is the only country in the world that only select players that play in their own country. once u leave to play in say the spanish league, u have no hope in being selected. another thing, the italian team , is made up of italian players, the french are mainly african players, the germans half are polish etc. australia are the biggest bitser team around. its funny i grew up here, all my life i was called a f wog, greaseball, was told to go back to my own country, was told i wasnt welcome here, have been called a wop, dago, u effin name it, now because australians think its convenient they say u have to support australia cos ur australian!!! up until now i have been an effin wog, but all of a sudden im australian!!! i am proud that italy beat australia, i am proud italy made it to the final again, if any team over history has had bad luck it hasnt been australia its been italy. yes i live in australia, does not mean i have to support the socceroos. i live in geelong, so should i support the cats, or my beloved tigers?????? i have followed the italian team all my life and i wont stop now. its really funy , i heard lucas neill on radio say he has not looked at the replay and wont, i tell u why he wont, because if he does he will realise he fouled and does not want to admit. imagine how portugal feel, henry dived a beauty and france bluffed their way to the final. australi akeep saying it could be us, they would not have beaten the ukraine nor germany. they were lucky to make it through with just 1 win
italy have a very structured game plan, and guys like pirlo,totti, del piero are in the best players in the world. italy are in better form than the french and should win, but anything can happen. matthew lloyd is a diver, bartlett fell over many times to "win" free kicks. poo the flea was a genius and getting frees for "so called push in th ebacks" he knew how to fall fwd and win frees when he felt a soft touch behind him, it poos me to death how many ppl think its just the italians and friench, when the aussies do it , just not as good
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X, the Italians couldn't beat the US (now's there's the most overrated team in the world). That's more embarassing than beating Japan or drawing with Croatia ;). I didnt whinge about the fouls in the Aussie-Italian game either X. About the only match in the whole WC where the refereeing was decent. Both fouls were there IMO although the outcomes from each were harsh. Socceroos failed to take their chances and didn't have the pace nor depth in their squad. That's why they are out of the WC. They should have got a draw against Brazil (Kewell missed an open goal from 6 yards) and they should have had two more clear penalties against Croatia (body tackle and handball) which would have won them the game easily. Kewell and Emerton didn't play against Italy and that lack of pace hurt them badly in the final 30 minutes when they played braindead soccer in the final attacking third of the pitch despite dominating possession. Guus also stuffed up bringing Aloisi instead of Kennedy on. Italy deserves to be in the WC final because they won fair and square but the Socceroos were not out of place with the world's elite.
At club level, the Premiera Liga >>>> EPL, Serie A, Bundesliga, etc..... You have more than just 2 to 4 clubs out of 20 challenging for the title and Barcelona was so far ahead of any other club outside Spain it wasn't funny. Serie A use to be the best league in the world when ZZ and before him Maradona played in Italy but it has gone downhill in the last 2-3 years. English players don't like playing in Italy because they don't like getting chopped lol and they won't get picked for England. The two styles are totally different too. Rarely does an Italian do well in th EPL. 95% of the best players in the EPL are foreigners anyway so the English side suffers. As for Italy, just like in 82, a side written off even by their own before the tournament started, looks like taking away the big prize. If they win it I bet ya Totti scores the winner. He'll become the new Rossi.
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X, the Italians couldn't beat the US (now's there's the most overrated team in the world).
mt, the only reason that game was a draw, is because italy kicked an own goal, if italy didnt score for the usa, it woudl have been a 1-0 win. now , italy kicked to goals that game, one for italy, one for the usa, and only with 10 men, yes they were one man down just like the australian game.
i can assure you, is the usa played australia, the usa would have won. australia did well, they did very well, but they didnt do as well as the media here are suggesting. propaganda is a wonderful thing.
fifa have just announced their all star team
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Azzurri prominent in All Star Team
7 July 2006
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The Mastercard All Star Team featuring the 23 most impressive players at the 2006 FIFA World Cup™ has been revealed - and Italy are the team best represented.
Seven members of the Italy squad that will contest Sunday's Final with France were included in the All Star team, while opponents France and the two beaten semi-finalists Germany and Portugal all contribute four players each. Argentina, Brazil and England - three sides who fell at the quarter-final stage - are also represented in the team.
The Mastercard All Star Team is as follows:
Goalkeepers
Gianluigi Buffon (Italy), Jens Lehmann (Germany), Ricardo (Portugal)
Defenders
Roberto Ayala (Argentina), John Terry (England), Lilian Thuram (France), Philipp Lahm (Germany), Fabio Cannavaro (Italy), Gianluca Zambrotta (Italy), Ricardo Carvalho (Portugal)
Midfielders
Ze Roberto (Brazil), Patrick Vieira (France), Zinedine Zidane (France), Michael Ballack (Germany), Andrea Pirlo (Italy), Gennaro Gattuso (Italy), Francesco Totti (Italy), Luis Figo (Portugal), Maniche (Portugal)
Forwards
Hernan Crespo (Argentina), Thierry Henry (France), Miroslav Klose (Germany), Luca Toni (Italy)
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not one aussie in the team???? it would have been fantastic if an aussie player would make it. but they didnt.
now if u had the australian media or paul wade list his all star team, he would have half teh aussie team in it and they only managed to beat a lowly rated japan team.
u say the usa are overrated , well they rated higher than australia for a reason, they earned it, if brazil had have played out of 1st gear v australia it woudl have been messy, if italy was on target v australia, it could have been a 5-0 thumping. many asutralian journos kept pumping up lucas neill suggesteing he should be in the all star team, how could he ?? the australian defence was exposed to many times. once again, the only goal kicked against italy thus far , was kicked by italy, defence is rock solid, midfield full of class and an attack that on its day can cause carnage.
we should all be proud of australia, but just like guus hiddink bluffed the media and the team, the team has bluffed the nation. i hope australia make it to the next world cup, but would not be surprised if they miss out. australia is an aging team and does not have the ability to quickly rebuild like a france, italy, brazil, argentina, germany etc, the cattle just isnt there
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The only thing that counts is winning. France for mine with Zizou and Henry doingthe business for the frogs.
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The only thing that counts is winning. France for mine with Zizou and Henry doingthe business for the frogs.
they are the danger men for france and if they are held italy should win, just wondering who will hold pirlo, totti, zambrotta is an attacking defender also. gattuso im sure will tag zz
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I'm so over the World Cup. Now that the Socceroos are out I couldn't care less who wins. Same for Wimbledon.
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u say the usa are overrated , well they rated higher than australia for a reason, they earned it, if brazil had have played out of 1st gear v australia it woudl have been messy, if italy was on target v australia, it could have been a 5-0 thumping. many asutralian journos kept pumping up lucas neill suggesteing he should be in the all star team, how could he ?? the australian defence was exposed to many times. once again, the only goal kicked against italy thus far , was kicked by italy, defence is rock solid, midfield full of class and an attack that on its day can cause carnage.
The US is overrated bigtime. Those FIFA rankings are crap. They had the Czechs at 2. Better than Italy, France Germany and Argentina. They are based on the number of games played which are mostly friendlies on home turf as far as the US go and who you play against. Hardly real tournament competition whose results you can rely on. The US were ranked in the top 10. I think they even got to 5th during the past 4 fours. Based on finishing first or second in the weakest confederation that gets 3 automatic qualification places plus another half. What a joke! The Socceroos have played the US before in Florida and won and they would have done it again. We made the final 16 at least. Saying we could have got thumped means nothing as we didn't. It could be easily argued that the Japan goal was a foul, Croatia's second wouldn't have gone in if Schwarzer was in goal and the second Brazilian goal only happened because the Socceroos had overcommitted players forward in search of a equalizer. Remember FIFA said after the match 16 of the 25 fouls paid against the Aussies (to just 9 against Brazil) were not there.
Easily agree with the Italian inclusions except I don't see how Totti got in the All star team based on this WC (on ability yes, he is a champion for Roma). He's done well in the knock-out games but even the Italian media were out to get him during the group games. That's why he didn't start against the Socceroos. I wouldn't have an Aussie in there but not one Spaniard despite them cruising into the final 8.... hmmm!
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i can assure you, is the usa played australia, the usa would have won. australia did well, they did very well, but they didnt do as well as the media here are suggesting. propaganda is a wonderful thing.
You're pretty good at propaganda yourself lol
Austraila did very well, and most ppl who watched their games would say so as well. Was very unlucky against the Italians to lose in the last minute, regardless of how many players they had. They were banking on their fitness to win them the game in extra time - was probably the worst mistake they made. Should have put the bastards away earlier. They didn't and paid the penalty.
Wasn't only the media who thought they did well - they exceeded all expectations IMO.
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Well done to Italy. I gotta concede X, They played very expansive, especially down the left flank and I think it was good for the game that France pinched an early goal. I don't agree with much of your long post the other day, but it doesn't matter now. Anyway many happy returns.
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Well done to Italy. I gotta concede X, They played very expansive, especially down the left flank and I think it was good for the game that France pinched an early goal. I don't agree with much of your long post the other day, but it doesn't matter now. Anyway many happy returns.
its a stressfull game. but what a weekend, my tigers killed port and teh italians won and they deserved it!
u r right jake, but reflecting on teh game, france were very lucky on 2 counts, that penalty was not a penalty, australia feel that they were stiff , well italy nearly lost the cup due to bad umpiring!!
then after the italians equalised they scored again and that was called offside and imo was a gr8 goal. then italy hit the cross bar. it could have been a 3-0 win to italy. but it wasnt meant to be that way and it went to penalties and finally italy won one.
the game of the tournament was italy v germany, the final is often an anti climax i think presure and fear of losing gets to to many players
world cup is over. lets concentrate on the getting the tigers into the finals
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I agree Italy had a much better first half and should have held a telling lead at the break, but for me it was definitely a penalty as Malouda was denied a goalscoring opportunity (and I had him at $21 for first goalscorer too!).
Early in the second I feel that Zambrotta went through the legs of Malouda and that should have been another penalty. Missed the first half of extra time getting ready for work but it was so dissapointing seeing Zidane finish the way he did. For most, the greatest player of the last 10-15 years and he goes out like that. I'm almost hoping it was provoked by racial or religious abuse because at least then there would be a reason for it.
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I agree Italy had a much better first half and should have held a telling lead at the break, but for me it was definitely a penalty as Malouda was denied a goalscoring opportunity (and I had him at $21 for first goalscorer too!).
Early in the second I feel that Zambrotta went through the legs of Malouda and that should have been another penalty. Missed the first half of extra time getting ready for work but it was so dissapointing seeing Zidane finish the way he did. For most, the greatest player of the last 10-15 years and he goes out like that. I'm almost hoping it was provoked by racial or religious abuse because at least then there would be a reason for it.
nothing racial, zz is very respected , played in seria A 4 many yrs, he was prob told that his mother was a gr8 #$%^
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that penalty was not a penalty, australia feel that they were stiff , well italy nearly lost the cup due to bad umpiring!!
then after the italians equalised they scored again and that was called offside and imo was a gr8 goal. then italy hit the cross bar. it could have been a 3-0 win to italy. but it wasnt meant to be that way and it went to penalties and finally italy won one.
the game of the tournament was italy v germany, the final is often an anti climax i think presure and fear of losing gets to to many players
The penalty was karma ;D but fortunately the Azzurri won anyway :thumbsup. Agree with Jake that France scoring first was the best thing for the game. Forced the Italians to play and they did it brilliantly. The first half was the best soccer of the tournament IMO. Lightening quick movement of the ball by both sides. A lesson to the Socceroos. Sad to see ZZ lose his head in his last game though.
world cup is over. lets concentrate on the getting the tigers into the finals
:gotigers
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Socceroos are still only ranked 33rd in the world despite making the second round and only losing by a whisker in the last seconds of the game to the eventual champions. These FIFA rankings are mostly a joke.
http://www.heraldsun.news.com.au/common/story_page/0,5478,19771923%255E2883,00.html
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Socceroos are still only ranked 33rd in the world despite making the second round and only losing by a whisker in the last seconds of the game to the eventual champions. These FIFA rankings are mostly a joke.
http://www.heraldsun.news.com.au/common/story_page/0,5478,19771923%255E2883,00.html
not really mt. the rankings are probably spot on. australia only won 1 game in the world cup, lost and drew the rest. italy now has been undefeated in their past 28 games.
it takes more that 1 competition to prove ur ranking. 33 is actually quite good.
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Socceroos are still only ranked 33rd in the world despite making the second round and only losing by a whisker in the last seconds of the game to the eventual champions. These FIFA rankings are mostly a joke.
http://www.heraldsun.news.com.au/common/story_page/0,5478,19771923%255E2883,00.html
not really mt. the rankings are probably spot on. australia only won 1 game in the world cup, lost and drew the rest. italy now has been undefeated in their past 28 games.
it takes more that 1 competition to prove ur ranking. 33 is actually quite good.
Obviously when 9 countries who failed to qualify for the WC are ranked higher than Australia. Turkey and Greece fair enough on recent history and quality but how can you take the rankings serious bar the top few when 4 African non-qualifiers (when only one African nation out of 5 qualifiers made the last 16) and Uruguay who Australia beat in the qualifiers are ranked above and way above the Socceroos.
11 Nigeria
11 Cameroon
14 Uruguay
21 Colombia
24 Guinea
26 Romania
27 Turkey
29 Egypt
32 Greece
33 Australia
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Socceroos are still only ranked 33rd in the world despite making the second round and only losing by a whisker in the last seconds of the game to the eventual champions. These FIFA rankings are mostly a joke.
http://www.heraldsun.news.com.au/common/story_page/0,5478,19771923%255E2883,00.html
not really mt. the rankings are probably spot on. australia only won 1 game in the world cup, lost and drew the rest. italy now has been undefeated in their past 28 games.
it takes more that 1 competition to prove ur ranking. 33 is actually quite good.
Obviously when 9 countries who failed to qualify for the WC are ranked higher than Australia. Turkey and Greece fair enough on recent history and quality but how can you take the rankings serious bar the top few when 4 African non-qualifiers (when only one African nation out of 5 qualifiers made the last 16) and Uruguay who Australia beat in the qualifiers are ranked above and way above the Socceroos.
11 Nigeria
11 Cameroon
14 Uruguay
21 Colombia
24 Guinea
26 Romania
27 Turkey
29 Egypt
32 Greece
33 Australia
mt, ur not a happy man about this and i understand. when australia kick arse in the asia cup, watch their ranking climb
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Zidane's headbutt as seen by:
The Germans:
http://oneeyed-richmond.com/images/other/worldcup/zidane1.gif
The French:
http://oneeyed-richmond.com/images/other/worldcup/zidane2.gif
The Italians:
http://oneeyed-richmond.com/images/other/worldcup/zidane3.gif
The Media:
http://oneeyed-richmond.com/images/other/worldcup/zidane5.gif
Some people also have to much time on their hands:
www.wallak.net/zidan
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More Zidane ;D
Godzilla Zidane:
http://oneeyed-richmond.com/images/other/worldcup/image002.gif
computer tennis:
http://oneeyed-richmond.com/images/other/worldcup/image003.gif
Zidane in Pisa:
http://oneeyed-richmond.com/images/other/worldcup/image004.gif
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Seems the Italians are paying for their world cup win against us. Two penalty box challenges by Frenchmen in recent Euro 2008 qualifiers that were worse that what Lucas Neill did yet both times it was the Italian who got yellow carded for diving. Nice one FIFA ::).
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Anyone else here been following the furore of the last few days over FIFA president Blatter's comments in an SBS interview with Les Murray?
The guy sucks up to Australia to collect the votes he needs to stay in power. First of all of promising Oceania a direct WC qualification place when he had no final say in the decision and then on Sunday saying we should have gone further in the WC instead of Italy and apologising for the overall standard of refereeing in the WC. He has been taken out of context by the Aussie media if you hear the full interview but what he says does stuff all for the team 4 months are the tournament has finished.
Instead of being patronising, FIFA needs to clear up the diving or faking injury laws otherwise every major soccer tournament will become a farce like the last WC.
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The Socceroos were drawn into a good group for the Asian Cup next year. Iraq is half decent but Oman and Thailand shouldn't provide any problems.
Group A - Australia Iraq Oman Thailand
Group B - Vietnam Japan Qatar UAE
Group C - Malaysia Iran Uzbekistan China
Group D - Indonesia Korea Saudi Arabia Bahrain
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Yes, that's a good draw.
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The high humidity and heat are going to be the Socceroos main worries. Provided Kewell and Cahill are fit by next year there's no country there that is better than the Aussies. We're a good show to win it.
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The latest FIFA rankings are out and Australia is down 10 spots to 43 and now ranked below Northern Ireland ???.
You'll be happy X, Italia is 1st.
http://www.fifa.com/en/mens/statistics/index/0,2548,All-Apr-2007,00.html
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Australian squad:
Goalkeepers: Mark Schwarzer, Brad Jones, Michael Petkovic.
Defenders: Lucas Neill, Brett Emerton, Michael Beauchamp, Michael Thwaite, Mark Milligan, Patrick Kisnorbo.
Midfielders: Mark Bresciano, Harry Kewell, Tim Cahill, Vince Grella, Mile Sterjovski, Luke Wilkshire, Jason Culina, Carl Valeri, Nick Carle, David Carney.
Forwards: Mark Viduka, John Aloisi, Archie Thompson, Brett Holman.
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The Aussie centre backs are probably the weakness in the team. The rest of the squad looks strong.
Schwarzer
Neill Beauchamp Thwaite Emerton
Culina Bresciano Cahill Kewell
Viduka Aloisi
Grella could also start in midfield with Cahill forward and Aloisi on the bench.
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The Socceroos have fallen to 3rd in Asia and dropped 6 places in the latest FIFA rankings:
40 Japan 703 +4
47 Iran 623 -6
48 Australia 618 -6
51 Korea Republic 597 0
58 Uzbekistan 534 0
62 Saudi Arabia 484 +1
http://www.fifa.com/worldfootball/ranking/lastranking/gender=m/fullranking.html#confederation=25998&rank=158
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Viduka quits Socceroos until Arnold saves the day
Peter Kogoy
The Australian
June 15, 2007
SOCCEROOS striker Mark Viduka quit international football only to be talked into changing his mind by national coach Graham Arnold last night.
Viduka had officially informed senior Football Federation Australia officials on Wednesday night that his 38-cap international career was over.
The FFA yesterday arranged a nationwide teleconference with Viduka for 6am this morning to announce his resignation and had Melbourne Victory striker Daniel Allsopp on standby to replace the English-based sharpshooter.
However, Arnold managed last night to convince Viduka to reverse his decision and declare himself available to play in the Asian Nations Championship next month.
Several sources contacted by The Australian last night confirmed the hard work by Arnold and FFA high performance director John Boultbee prompted the new Newcastle United striker's change of heart.
Rest of article at: http://www.theaustralian.news.com.au/story/0,20867,21907536-2722,00.html
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did a mal michael :rollin
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The Socceroos start their Asian Cup campaign tonight against long-shots Oman in Group A.
The other two teams in Group A, Thailand and Iraq, played a 1-all draw last night. The ground was soaked due to a tropical storm so the Aussies will need to adapt to the shocking conditions of the drenched pitch.
BANGKOK, July 7 (Reuters) - Striker Younes Khalef scored the equaliser to earn Iraq a 1-1 draw with Group A hosts Thailand in the opening match of the Asian Cup on Saturday.
The expansive Rajamangala stadium was less than half full after the city was drenched by a tropical storm that caused flash flooding in the surrounding suburbs and kept thousands of potential spectators away.
The pitch had been badly soaked, preventing both teams from developing any fluency and they resorted to long-range shots on goal to try and break the deadlock in the second half.
http://soccernet.espn.go.com/report?id=221240&cc=3436
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What happened? We were one goal down last time I heard.
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Timmy Cahill got the equalizer with just a few minutes to go. It finished one-all. I didn't see the game but the reports in the media say we were ordinary and clearly underdone. All 4 teams in Group A are on 1 point. We play Iraq next on Friday.
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Yeah was a pretty lame effort.
Fell behind in the 32nd minute and Supersub Tim Cahill equalised in the 89th.
Need to thank keeper Mark Schwarzer made a few point blank saves from a header and a shot and stopped a clear one on one. Oman could easily have scored 3 or 4. We lacked polish and penetration and a marked improvement is required on Friday against Iraq. Thankfully all 4 teams on 1 point after everyone has played 1 game.
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The shock results continued last night. Vietnam won 2-0 against UAE :o.
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Thailand defeated Oman 2-0 so the Socceroos can't afford a slip up against Iraq tonight or it's basically bye bye.
Group A table
P W D L F A PTS
Thailand 2 1 1 - 3 1 4
Australia 1 - 1 - 1 1 1
Iraq 1 - 1 - 1 1 1
Oman 2 - 1 1 1 3 1
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The Socceroos lost. 1-3 to Iraq. Played just crap. More turnovers than Richmond and a leaky defence :P. We need to get a real coach again.
We now need to beat host Thailand by at least 2 goals to stay in the Asian Cup. The way we're going I can't see that happening.
P W D L F A PTS
Iraq 2 1 1 - 4 2 4
Thailand 2 1 1 - 3 1 4
Australia 2 - 1 1 2 4 1
Oman 2 - 1 1 1 3 1
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To top off a dirty night for the Aussies, Lucas Neill got sent off near the end after a second yellow card.
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We need a real coach and we need more teams in the national comp to give more chances to young kids. We wont get anywhere running around with less than 12 teams in a comp.
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We need a real coach who knows the importance of tactics, playing as a team and doesn't play duds as centre backs. Kisnorbo for heaven's sake :help. Arnold is just another Farina. No idea.
I wouldn't say we need more teams in the A-league but the season needs to not finish in early Feb. If you're going to use A-league players you need our players match-fit and battle hardened at least. The Socceroos just weren't running and working hard enough especially defensively :scream. Two of Iraq's goals were laughable. U10's mistakes :help.
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I like just about all sports at top level, but soccer just still doesn't do it for me.
For a game that is played all around the world for so long, the way they carry on like pussies is pox.
And it is slow and boring most of the time, no wonder most supporters are fkcuheads.
LOSER GAME and GAY
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Fair enough you hate it CUB but hardcore soccer people (Sydney-centric SBS commentators ::) ) would say the same thing about Aussie rules. The Hawthorn v St Kilda game earlier this year was a painful cure for insomnia. A neutral would say the same thing about the Crows game last year.
I like soccer having played it and IMO there's good and shocking games in both codes (I still prefer following Aussie Rules of course). The group stage of the Asian Cup is hardly top shelf soccer compared to the WC and top European and South American comps which just goes to show how pitiful the Socceroos have played and why everyone is calling for Arnold's head.
There'll be some Sydney-centric SBS soccer people's noses out of joint over Jon Ralph's article in the Herald-Sun today :lol
http://www.heraldsun.news.com.au/footy/common/story_page/0,8033,22075620%255E19742,00.html
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Final group game has started. 28 degrees in the evening :P and it's raining. Not holding my breath but let's hope the Socceroos show something tonight :pray.
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1-0 :thumbsup. Beauchamp goals.
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Bang Bang to Viduka. 3-0 :invasion
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Kewell gets number 4 :bow
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All over. Socceroos get through to the Quarter Finals on the back of one decent game :thumbsup.
P W D L F A PTS
Iraq 3 1 2 - 4 2 5
Australia 3 1 1 1 6 4 4
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Thailand 3 1 1 1 3 5 4
Oman 3 - 2 1 1 3 2
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In a rematch from last year's World Cup, the Socceroos play Japan in the Quarter Finals on Saturday Night, 8.20pm AEST in Hanoi, Vietnam.
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I enjoyed that though :rollin
Good day Monday, went to Storm and then aussies win = 2 wins in a day.
Not bad for a Richmond supporter - lol :rollin :lol
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0-0 at half time.
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1-1. Aloisi goaled to put u in front then we stuff up in defence straight after and let Japan equalize.
Now the ref has gone card crazy over diving and Grella's been sent off.
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Now the ref has gone card crazy over diving and Grella's been sent off.
Oh dear here we go again. Glad I haven't got fox at work and am watching footy. :thumbsup
Still c'mon Aussies :cheers
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Extra time. We might have to win it via penalties.
CUB, looks like the ref is showing why you hate soccer ;). The soccer board on BF is going nuts over the refereeing. The Japanese player that went off on the stretcher for which Grella got sent off apparently came straight back on ::).
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Down to penalties. Schwarzer saved us in the last minute of extra time.
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Kewell missed :(
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0-1
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Neill missed as well :scream.
0-2
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Cahill finally gets one. Still 2 down.
1-3
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Carle makes it as well and the Japanese player misses
2-3
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Carney makes it but the Japanese player gets it and wins it for Japan. Aussies out of the Asian Cup 3-4 on penalties.
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pooh game - over to the rugby :thumbsup
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Penalties are a crap way to decide major international matches but them the rules. At least we'll go out now and hopefully get a proper overseas coach who won't play Sydney favourites.
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Poor effort by Kewell in the shootout. He looked stuffed after 5 minutes on the ground.
The red card by the ref was a shocker!
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Australia will always have a tough time in Asia with Asian confederation refs. The send off was a joke, most of the decisions against us were very questionable. It was a brave performance but they were let down early in the shootout.
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The Aussies aren't doing too badly even though they're 1-0 down with 20 minutes to go. The Argentines are all class but we've had enough decent chances to score a goal ourselves.
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FORMER Dutch and South Korea national coach Dick Advocaat is set to be named the Socceroos' new mentor. The announcement is set to be made on November 17.
http://www.news.com.au/heraldsun/story/0,21985,22638600-11088,00.html
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FORMER Dutch and South Korea national coach Dick Advocaat is set to be named the Socceroos' new mentor. The announcement is set to be made on November 17.
Advocaat has bailed at the last minute. Back to the drawing board for the FFA.
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No coach but the Socceroos beat Nigeria 1 - 0 overnight in London. David Carney scored the goal.
http://soccernet-akamai.espn.go.com/report?id=231519&cc=3436
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Another FFA farce. Whats new.
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Another FFA farce. Whats new.
81 days till we begin our 2010 World Cup campaign and we are still coachless. New names that have now been bandied around are Jurgen Klinsmann and Gerard Houllier again.
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I wonder if Russia fails to qualify whether Guus might change his mind and look again at the free Socceroos job.
LOL at the twit compere on SEN tonight saying Sheedy could do it (and he was serious) :rollin.
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I wonder if Russia fails to qualify whether Guus might change his mind and look again at the free Socceroos job.
LOL at the twit compere on SEN tonight saying Sheedy could do it (and he was serious) :rollin.
I think Guus contract is up at 2010 or when Russia's qualification process for 2010 world cup ends. I believe he got a contract extension at some point in time early on in his tenure when Soccer Australia were looking for a coach to take us to the Asian Cup.
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The Olyroos (U23's) have qualified for the Olympics tonight :clapping. One-all draw with North Korea.
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The Socceroos will face Asian champions Iraq, China and Qatar in their initial World Cup qualifiers.
Socceroos dealt tough World Cup draw
Monday, 26 November 2007
The Qantas Socceroos opponents for the third round of qualifying for the 2010 FIFA World Cup were revealed today at the draw of the preliminary qualifying stage in Durban, South Africa.
China, Iraq and Qatar will be Australia's opponents in the third round of Asian Football Confederation qualifying after the Qantas Socceroos were seeded directly into this stage of the qualifying process.
Also seeded alongside Australia were South Korea, Iran, Saudi Arabia and Japan.
This phase of qualifying will see the Qantas Socceroos play their opponents home and away with the top-two placed teams progressing to the fourth and final round where four teams will gain direct entry to the 2010 FIFA World Cup while a fifth team will play off against the top Oceania team for the final place in South Africa.
The fixture will be distributed once confirmed by the Asian Football Confederation.
http://www.footballaustralia.com.au/InsideFFA/default.aspx?s=insideffa_newsfeatures_newsitem&id=20408
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Dutchman Pim Verbeek is the new Socceroos coach through to the end of the 2010 World Cup campaign.
The 51-year-old's most noteworthy achievement in 25 years of coaching was guiding South Korea to the Asian Cup semi-finals this year.
He has also coached Sparta Rotterdam, Feyenoord Rotterdam and Fortuna Sittard in the Dutch league.
http://www.news.com.au/heraldsun/story/0,21985,22880911-11088,00.html
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The squad for Qatar tomorrow night has been named.
Squad: John Aloisi, Mark Bresciano, Jacob Burns, Tim Cahill, David Carney, Ante Covic, Jason Culina, Brett Emerton, Brett Holman, Josh Kennedy, Scott McDonald, Craig Moore, Lucas Neill, Jade North, Mark Schwarzer, Archie Thompson, Nikolai Topor-Stanley, James Troisi, Carl Valeri, Danny Vukovic, Luke Wilkshire.
Aussies will need to win their home games.
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Starting Socceroos X1 tonight:
Mark Schwarzer
Brett Emerton Lucas Neill Craig Moore Luke Wilkshire
Mark Bresciano Jason Culina Tim Cahill David Carney
Josh Kennedy Scott McDonald
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Goal Kennedy after 10 mins.
Aussies 1-0 :thumbsup
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Where's Harry - doesn't Pimmy like Harry?
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Make that 2-0 :thumbsup. Goal to Timmy Cahill :bow.
Kewell's got a slight niggle I think WP.
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Make that 2-0 :thumbsup. Goal to Timmy Cahill :bow.
Kewell's got a slight niggle I think WP.
:cheers :cheers
Who's captaining MT - Neill?
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Who's captaining MT - Neill?
I believe so WP.
3-0 :thumbsup. Goal to Bresciano. It's one way traffic.
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3-0 at Half-time. Qatar doing a Spud and putting everyone into defence to limit the damage :wallywink.
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Melbourne proves it's the sporting capital again :thumbsup.
A bit of a dull second half once Cahill :bow and Kennedy were substituted and we lost our height advantage up front but 3-0 is a good win in anyone's language. Next up China away at altitude on March 26 which will be tougher.
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In the other game in our group Iraq and China drew 1-1 so the Socceroos are on the top.
Group 1
Team W D L GD Pts
Australia 1 0 0 +3 3
China 0 1 0 0 1
Iraq 0 1 0 0 1
Qatar 0 0 1 -3 0
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3-0 at Half-time. Qatar doing a Spud and putting everyone into defence to limit the damage :wallywink.
I've never seen an 8-1-1 formation before!! :rollin :rollin
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How many more injuries can the Socceroos have - No Kewell, no Cahill, no MacDonald :help
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is this game on tv ?
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is this game on tv ?
Not on Free-To-Air. On Foxsports 2.
0-0 at Half-Time. Bresciano had a great chance to score but hit it straight at the keeper. Socceroos are playing with no recognised striker as Archie Thompson had to go off with a knee early on :-\.
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0-0 at full time.
Schwarzer saved a penalty with 2 minutes to go. A good result for the Aussies away from home with effectively almost a B-side.
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0-0 at full time.
Schwarzer saved a penalty with 2 minutes to go. A good result for the Aussies away from home with effectively almost a B-side.
Aussies had the best two chances of the game and just for the record in my opinion was not a penalty. Still a quality result for the Socceroos.
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0-0 at full time.
Schwarzer saved a penalty with 2 minutes to go. A good result for the Aussies away from home with effectively almost a B-side.
Aussies had the best two chances of the game and just for the record in my opinion was not a penalty. Still a quality result for the Socceroos.
We're use to dodgy penalties :whistle.
As long as the Socceroos win at home and at least draw away then they'll get through to the next stage. So on track so far.
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Socceroos are still on top of the group after Qatar won 2-0 over Iraq overnight.
Pts GD
Australia 4 +3
Qatar 3 -1
China 2 0
Iraq 1 -2
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Aussies won 1-0 over Iraq thanks to Kewell.
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Socceroos lost 0-1 to Iraq in Dubai early this morning. The Iraqis are apparently in trouble for charging Aussies $100 for a ticket while only charging Iraqis $6.
Team Pld W D L GF GA GD Pts
Australia 4 2 1 1 4 1 +3 7
Qatar 4 2 1 1 3 3 0 7
Iraq 4 1 1 2 2 4 -2 4
China PR 4 0 3 1 1 2 -1 3
Two games to go. Top two go through to the last qualifying phase.
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The last 2 games the Aussies have played crap. Lucky not to lose the first Iraq game as well that they won. On current form they'll be lucky to qualify. I guess that's what you deserve when you aim for draws instead of wins ::).
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The Socceroos are through to the final qualifying stage after winning away in Doha overnight.
Qatar 1
Australia 3 (Emerton 17', 56' and Kewell 75')
Team Pld W D L GF GA GD Pts
Australia 5 3 1 1 7 2 +5 10
Iraq 5 2 1 2 4 5 -1 7
Qatar 5 2 1 2 4 6 -2 7
China PR 5 0 3 2 2 4 -2 3
The Aussies play China and Iraq plays Qatar in the last group game so we're already through to the final 10-team qualifying stage.
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What's this for and what do we need to achieve :help seriously
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What's this for and what do we need to achieve :help seriously
World Cup 2010 qualifiers...
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What's this for and what do we need to achieve :help seriously
World Cup 2010 qualifiers...
After the China game which is now a dead rubber, the Socceroos will be placed in a group of 5 Asian Confederation nations which play home and away against each other (8 games in total). The top two teams in the group will automatically qualify for the 2010 World Cup. The 3rd placed side gets another chance to still qualify via a playoff. So hopefully the Aussies will finish in the top 2 and qualify automatically.
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So we will be one of the 5 ? right.
And I gather that the other 4 teams are going to be pretty crappy so we should get there. :thumbsup
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So we will be one of the 5 ? right.
And I gather that the other 4 teams are going to be pretty crappy so we should get there. :thumbsup
Yep we'll be one of the 5.
The 4 other teams will come from the likes of Japan, Iran, South Korea, North Korea, Saudi Arabia, etc. Not a walk in the park by any means but teams on our level.
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The Aussies lost 0 - 1 to China in the dead rubber tonight in Sydney.
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without South Melbourne the socceroos will be average. Soccer in Australia is going nowhere without the 4 time national champions ;D
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Qatar beat Iraq 1-0 in the other Group 1 match so the Socceroos and Qatar go through to the final qualifying stage.
Team Pld W D L GF GA GD Pts
Australia 6 3 1 2 7 3 +4 10
Qatar 6 3 1 2 5 6 -1 10
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Iraq 6 2 1 3 4 6 -2 7
China PR 6 1 3 2 3 4 -1 6
The 10 remaining AFC teams are:
Australia, Qatar, Japan, Bahrain, South Korea, North Korea, Uzbekistan, Saudi Arabia, Iran and the United Arab Emirates.
The draw to decide the final two groups of 5 teams will be held on June 27.
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The final qualifying group has been announced tonight:
Group A
Australia
Japan
Uzbekistan
Bahrain
Qatar
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If we don't qualify for the World Cup now we deserve to be called a laughing stock. After all those years of tough one-off qualifiers this is a dream run. Almost as though FIFA want us to qualify.
Here's the draw for the final 8 games:
10-09-2008 Uzbekistan v Australia
15-10-2008 Australia v Qatar
19-11-2008 Bahrain v Australia
11-02-2009 Japan v Australia
01-04-2009 Australia v Uzbekistan
06-06-2009 Qatar v Australia
10-06-2009 Australia v Bahrain
17-06-2009 Australia v Japan
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Socceroos 1-0 up at half-time away to Uzbekistan.
Go Aussies :thumbsup
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Final Score
Uzbekistan 0
Australia 1 (Chipperfield 26')
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Aussies can move to the top of Group A when they play Qatar in Brisbane on Oct 15. Top 2 of the group automatically qualify for the 2010 World Cup.
Team Pld W D L GF GA GD Pts
Qatar 2 1 1 0 4 1 +3 4
Japan 1 1 0 0 3 2 +1 3
Australia 1 1 0 0 1 0 +1 3
Bahrain 2 0 1 1 3 4 −1 1
Uzbekistan 2 0 0 2 0 4 −4 0
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Win tonight in Brisbane and the Socceroos could already have one foot in the World Cup in South Africa. Go Aussies!
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Timmy Cahill does it again :thumbsup
1 - 0
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Cahill fouled in the box. He's killing them :bow. Emerton nails the penalty.
2 - 0 :thumbsup
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Emerton seals it
3 - 0 :thumbsup
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One more to Josh Kennedy in the 76th
to make the final score 4-0. :thumbsup
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:woohoo
We're now top of group and look far stronger than the rest. Looking good to qualify directly :thumbsup
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Japan and Uzbekistan drew 1-1 in the other Group A match so the Socceroos are clear on top. The top 2 will directly qualify for the World Cup. 6 games for the Aussies to go with the next match away to Bahrain on November 19.
Team Pld W D L GF GA GD Pts
Australia 2 2 0 0 5 0 +5 6
Japan 2 1 1 0 4 3 +1 4
Qatar 3 1 1 1 4 5 -1 4
Bahrain 2 0 1 1 3 4 −1 1
Uzbekistan 3 0 1 2 1 5 −4 1
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Go the Aussies tonight in Bahrain. Do it for Craig Moore :thumbsup.
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Bresciano has scored the winner in the last minute :thumbsup
Bahrain 0
Australia 1 - Bresciano 90+4'
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Very lucky win but I guess it's a good sign when you play absolute crap but still can pinch the points. One foot in the World Cup door :thumbsup.
Pld W D L GF/A GD Pts
Australia 3 3 0 0 6 0 +6 9
Japan 3 2 1 0 7 3 +4 7
Qatar 4 1 1 2 4 8 −4 4
Bahrain 3 0 1 2 3 5 −2 1
Uzbekistan 3 0 1 2 1 5 −4 1
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The all A-league Socceroos drew 0-0 with Indonesia in Jakarta in their first 2011 Asian Cup qualifier.
http://www.news.com.au/heraldsun/story/0,21985,24978399-11088,00.html
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Just a reminder the Socceroos play their next World Cup qualifier tonight against Japan in Yokohama (starts 9.20pm AEST).
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0-0 at half-time.
If the Aussies can walk away with at least a draw it'll be a good result.
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Japan 0 - 0 Australia ......... CUB's appreciation of soccer has just grown ;D
A forgettable game from the Aussies perspective (just one shot on goal) but we defended well and got at least the result we were after. With home games to come against weak countries we've already beaten it's looking good for the Socceroos.
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Group A table - with 4 matches to go.
Pl W D L GF GA GD Pts
Australia 4 3 1 0 6 0 +6 10
Japan 4 2 2 0 7 3 +4 8
Bahrain 4 1 1 2 4 5 −1 4
Qatar 4 1 1 2 4 8 −4 4
Uzbekistan 4 0 1 3 1 6 −5 1
Next match:
Australia vs Uzbekistan
April 1, 2009
8pm
@ ANZ Stadium, Sydney
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Go Aussies! Win tonight and they can basically book their tickets to the World Cup.
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Aussies win 2-0 :woohoo
If Bahrain and Qatar draw later tonight then we are off to the World Cup without needing to play another game. Either way we are basically there. Aussies only need one more point from their last 3 games to qualify for sure. 9 points clear and +9 goal difference on 3rd spot.
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Group A table
Pl W D L GF GA GD Pts
Australia 5 4 1 0 8 0 +8 13
Japan 5 3 2 0 8 3 +5 11
Bahrain 6 2 1 3 5 6 −1 7
Uzbekistan 6 1 1 4 5 8 −3 4
Qatar 6 1 1 4 4 13 −9 4
Next match:
Qatar vs Australia
June 6, 2009
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Australia got the point they needed against Qatar to qualify for the World Cup in South Africa next year after a 0-0 draw in Doha. :clapping
South Africa here we come.
On a side note Australia has not conceded a goal in this phase of the campaign at all and have not conceded a goal in the World Cup qualifiers since they lost 1-0 China last June. That's 622 minutes played without conceding. :thumbsup
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:woohoo
A 0-0 scoreline with Qatar is nothing to boast about but the Socceroos did what they had to do in the hot and humid conditions so who cares. We are off to the World Cup again :thumbsup.
Interesting to see if any of our European stars play in the remaining two dead rubbers back in Oz. You wouldn't think we'd risk it although it would be great to knock off Japan in Melbourne and finish top of the group.
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2-0 to the Socceroos tonight :clapping :thumbsup. It could have been more if we made the most of all our chances. Bring on Wednesday night.
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0-1 down at half-time. The first goal the Socceroos have conceded in the qualifiers and from a header of all things :P. We're getting pumped out wide down the wings and the midfield has been ordinary. Pym's going to have to give them a rocket and make a change especially on the right wing.
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Timmy Cahill :bow :bow :bow
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Timmy Cahill :bow :bow :bow
Make that x2 :bow :bow :bow
Great corner by Carle
2-1 :woohoo
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No.1 in the group and won every home game. Kicked into gear in the second half and came from behind thanks to Timmy again to beat Japan. Well done Aussies :clapping :thumbsup.
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Just saw the highlights of the Aussies 3-0 win over Ireland. If Timmy Cahill keeps scoring 2 goals every time the Socceroos will repeat getting into the final 16 :bow :thumbsup
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Just saw the highlights of the Aussies 3-0 win over Ireland. If Timmy Cahill keeps scoring 2 goals every time the Socceroos will repeat getting into the final 16 :bow :thumbsup
I saw the whole match. They were very good. Impressed with Jedinak, and Rhys Williams looks promising. Kewell made a couple of ripper passes. Carney's goal was a replica of one of his previous goals for Aust.
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I saw the whole match. They were very good. Impressed with Jedinak, and Rhys Williams looks promising. Kewell made a couple of ripper passes. Carney's goal was a replica of one of his previous goals for Aust.
What a sweet strike. A bullet that dipped into the top corner. The Irish keeper had no chance :thumbsup.
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Socceroos are now ranked 14th best in the world :o
http://www.fifa.com/worldfootball/ranking/lastranking/gender=m/fullranking.html
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The Socceroos still haven't lost a game to Holland. First time in 26 games has Holland been held goal-less.
Australia 0
Netherlands 0
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Half-time in the Asian Cup qualifier at Eithad
Australia 0
Oman 0
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Aussies won 1-0 with Timmy Cahill saving the day again :thumbsup.
Asian Cup Qualifying Stage - Group B
AUSTRALIA 3 1 1 1 1 1 0 4
OMAN 3 1 1 1 1 1 0 4
KUWAIT 2 1 0 1 1 1 0 3
INDONESIA 2 0 2 0 0 0 0 2
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10-man Aussies came from a goal down to win in Oman.
Oman 1 ...... Ayil '15 (pen)
Socceroos 2 ....... Wilkshire '43, Emerton '82
Asian Cup Qualifying Stage - Group B
P W D L F A GD Pts
AUSTRALIA 4 2 1 1 3 2 1 7
KUWAIT 3 2 0 1 3 2 1 6
OMAN 4 1 1 2 2 3 -1 4
INDONESIA 3 0 2 1 1 2 -1 2
Top two qualify for the Asian Cup.
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The Aussies aren't playing all too convincingly lately but are still getting results which I guess is the main thing. You'd reckon we'll need to lift our game by the time of the World Cup next year to get through the group stage again.
Congrats btw to the Kiwis. The first time ever both Australia and New Zealand will be at the same World Cup.
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saw some highlights, Schwartzer saved their arse again and again. If he goes down then i think the socceroos will go down
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saw some highlights, Schwartzer saved their behind again and again. If he goes down then i think the socceroos will go down
This World Cup will be the last for a number of star Socceroos - Schwarzer, Kewell, Cahill, Bresciano, Emerton. It's going to be tough for a while after the current generation retires :-\.
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The final 32 countries for next year's World Cup were finalised overnight...
Asia (4): Australia, Japan, South Korea, North Korea
Africa (6): South Africa (host), Cameroon, Nigeria, Ghana, Ivory Coast, Algeria
Europe (13): England, Italy, Spain, Germany, Netherlands, Serbia, Denmark, Switzerland, Slovakia, France, Greece, Portugal, Slovenia
Sth America (5): Brazil, Argentina, Chile, Paraguay, Uruguay
Nth America (3): USA, Mexico, Honduras
Oceania (1): New Zealand
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What a farce the France-Ireland game was. Monsieur Myop must have been refereeing that game to miss not one but two handballs in a row. Thierry Henry you cheat ::).
At least our Greek OERites will be happy chappies :thumbsup.
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What a farce the France-Ireland game was. Monsieur Myop must have been refereeing that game to miss not one but two handballs in a row. Thierry Henry you cheat ::).
At least our Greek OERites will be happy chappies :thumbsup.
Interestingly, the AM program on ABC radio reported that Thierry Henry admitted to the ref that he hand balled
"Thierry Henry 'fessed up to the referees only to be told it had bounced off his chest. Despite the confession the goal and the result stood."
http://www.abc.net.au/am/content/2009/s2748311.htm
Don't know how accurate that is
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Henry is supposedly now also supporting the idea of a rematch. Massive damage control on his part as his reputation is in tatters and despite a distinguished career at Ar_senal and Barcelona he will now only be remembered for this cheating incident. He knew what he was doing as he handled the ball twice. Once you could argue it was a reflex action but twice nup. It was a double action and deliberate act of cheating. Just because the ref and assistant refs were blind as bats and should have picked it up or they ignored his pleas doesn't excuse him. Once again a traditional soccer power gets through on dodgy play ::).
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The whole thing has become an absolute farce and is doing wonders for the game's reputation world wide. At least he hasnt claimed it was the hand of god :whistle
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The whole thing has become an absolute farce and is doing wonders for the game's reputation world wide. At least he hasnt claimed it was the hand of god :whistle
The British press are calling it the 'hand of frog' lol.
As much as soccer is the most popular sport in the world and played all around the globe IMO it really can't call itself the world game until a non-European and non-South American powerhouse wins the World Cup and that's made all the more difficult with these dodgy incidents being allowed by FIFA when it involves and favours a traditional powerhouse. What is out there to discourage such blantant cheating when the cheats aren't punished and in fact rewarded. N'Gog of Liverpool was another the other weekend who just dived to con a penalty to save a draw. In such a low scoring sport when every score is so vital there's definitely an argument for video replay of penalties and goals or even as they do in the NFL of the opposing coach having the right to challenge a decision/non-decision.
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The British press are calling it the 'hand of frog' lol.
:ROTFL
As much as soccer is the most popular sport in the world and played all around the globe IMO it really can't call itself the world game until a non-European and non-South American powerhouse wins the World Cup and that's made all the more difficult with these dodgy incidents being allowed by FIFA when it involves and favours a traditional powerhouse. What is out there to discourage such blantant cheating when the cheats aren't punished and in fact rewarded. N'Gog of Liverpool was another the other weekend who just dived to con a penalty to save a draw. In such a low scoring sport when every score is so vital there's definitely an argument for video replay of penalties and goals or even as they do in the NFL of the opposing coach having the right to challenge a decision/non-decision.
Yeah they even refuse to use video technology on the goal line, it just reeks of stubborn pigheadeness. There is no good reason why they dont embrace some of the technology of the 21st century to remove controversy. FIFA's ivory tower dwarfs that of demetriou and co.
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To call a replay in such a game would set a precedent.
Furthermore it heightens the argument to bring in technology and fourth officials making calls on whether players were off side or balls crossed lines or incidents that the officials are just blind sided and could not see.
FIFA would never agree on the replay, especially if they ask member confederations and Michel Platini President of UEFA is French. The Irish just have to suck it up. If the French win the final (which they won't) it will be one of those awful and unpopular sporting moments.
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FIFA did once order a replay of a Uzbekistan-Bahrain qualifier for the 2006 WC over a technical error made by the referee.
http://www.fifa.com/worldcup/archive/germany2006/news/newsid=27212.html
But you're right Tucky. FIFA will not agree to a replay at the expense of a traditional power like France.
FIFA's ivory tower dwarfs that of demetriou and co.
And that's saying something :help. Andy D and co. are just obstinate on issues. FIFA are pigs in the trough hooves and all when it comes to getting what they want.
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ScM69RcmRgg&feature=player_embedded#
:ROTFL
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Just got to have a look at the incident. There was also one perhaps two frogs offside. What the fornicate were the linesmen doing?
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Just got to have a look at the incident. There was also one perhaps two frogs offside. What the fornicate were the linesmen doing?
Yep you're right al it was definitely offside with the initial kick. Monsieur Myop was the linesman :help.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fLUxMRYJAso
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With thanks to Mopsy :thumbsup :lol
FIFA have granted their permission for a replay of the last half of the extra time section of last Wednesday night’s game which will take place in Stade France.
Ireland will be playing right to left ...
(http://oneeyed-richmond.com/images/other/worldcup/angledpitch.jpg)
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:thatsgold
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Wishful thinking but Ireland wants a 33rd spot at the World Cup
http://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/soccer/irish-football-federation-ask-for-33rd-world-cup-spot/story-e6frfg8x-1225805861224
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The World Cup draw is on Saturday morning at 5am. Here are the seedings:
Pot one: (seeds)
South Africa, Brazil, Spain, Netherlands, Italy, Germany, Argentina, England
Pot two: (AFC, Oceania and CONCACAF)
Australia, Japan, North Korea, South Korea, Honduras, Mexico, USA, New Zealand
Pot three: (CAF and rest of South America)
Chile, Paraguay, Uruguay, Nigeria, Cameroon, Ivory Coast, Ghana, Algeria
Pot four: (rest of UEFA)
Denmark, France, Greece, Serbia, Portugal, Slovenia, Slovakia, Switzerland
http://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/soccer/fifa-announce-world-cup-seedings-in-south-africa-ahead-of-next-years-finals/story-fn4k60jj-1225806291637
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FIFA have made it tougher for us this time placing us in the weakest pot whereas last time when we were still in Oceania we weren't in the same pot as the Asian countries. The draw on Saturday is really going to play a massive part in whether we get through the group stage.
If we end up in a group of South Africa, Uruguay/Algeria and one of the other minor European nations say then our chances are fairly good. Cop Brazil/Italy/Spain, Ivory Coast and France/Portugal and it'll be tough to get through to the knockout stage again. Whatever happens it would be awesome if we are placed in the same group as England :pray. Be funny as if we were the ones who knocked them out of the World Cup.
I'd like to know how Argentina is a seeded country given they just scraped through the qualification phase ??? ::).
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Aussies are in Group D
Australia
Germany
Serbia
Ghana
Group A: South Africa, France, Uruguay, Mexico
Group B: Argentina, Greece, Nigeria, South Korea
Group C: England, USA, Algeria, Slovenia
Group E: Netherlands, Denmark, Japan, Cameroon
Group F: Italy, Paraguay, Slovakia, New Zealand
Group G: Brazil, Portugal, Ivory Coast, North Korea
Group H: Spain, Switzerland, Chile, Honduras
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Tough group for Australia and Greece.
Italy and England are blessed.
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I don't mind our group. Sure it's no walk in the park but it could have been a hell of a lot worse as the North Koreans have found out. I see it as a group similar to last time. We have a world power (Germany instead of Brazil), a physical second-tier European country from the Balkans (Serbia instead of Croatia), and finally a country we've had a fairly good record against in the past (Ghana instead of Japan). If we're good enough we can get through. If Germany can beat Serbia and Ghana then it'll come to down to how we go against the same sides. That's how we go through the group stage in 2006.
If we do get through and finish second in the group we'll face England who are likely to finish on top of their group (talk about charity from FIFA ::) ). Now there's motivation for an Australian side if ever there was :thumbsup.
Greece would be in the group of death Tucky but in the Greeks favour there's no standout side in their group. Argentina just scraped through to qualify and the other two are beatable if the Greeks hold up defensively.
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Group G is more the group of death i rkn.
hopefully we can get 2nd in our group.
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Seems most countries this time are calling their group the group of death from all the news reports. They classed ours as the second toughest group.
Interesting to read the coaches comments. No mention of us by Germany or Ghana. Hopefully they underestimate us again.
http://www.fifa.com/worldcup/standings/group=249726/quotes.html
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Against Germany I think we will rise to the occasion like we did against Italy in the last WC with strong defensive pressure to compensate for our lack of flair. Stick to em like white on rice and wait for an attacking opportunity or mistake by the opposition. We will also be severe underdogs which is when we play our best football.
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Agree tiga. We need to be physical and try and hit them on the counterattack. The Germans play a fairly dull systematic get the job done style so the Aussies need to be disciplined, patient and make the most of any chance that comes our way. We play them first so even coming away with just a draw would be a huge result.
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Germany are pretty awesome team guys even if we play stronge in defense and very disciplined they will get chances and they will make good use of them.
i can see us coming 2nd in our group though if we play our best.
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In the Asian Cup qualifier, the Socceroos drew 2-2 with Kuwait in Kuwait on a dodgy pitch after being 2-0 up after just 5 minutes.
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In the Asian Cup qualifier, the Socceroos drew 2-2 with Kuwait in Kuwait on a dodgy pitch after being 2-0 up after just 5 minutes.
A disappointing yet good enough result as we only now need a draw at best at home against Indonesia to qualify. Tough when you have the crowd shine lasers in our Aussie players' eyes and playing a shocking pitch ::).
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No action on 'Handball' Henry ZURICH
January 20, 2010
FRANCE'S captain, Thierry Henry, has escaped punishment for his infamous handball in the 2010 World Cup finals play-off against Ireland, FIFA has announced.
France was losing 1-0 at the Stade de France on November 18, having won the first leg 1-0, when Henry set up William Gallas in extra-time for what proved to be the decisive goal after illegally controlling the ball with his hand.
FIFA's disciplinary committee said it was powerless to punish the striker because the original misdemeanour had not been seen by match officials. ''There is no other legal text that would allow the committee to impose sanctions for any incidents missed by match officials,'' it said.
Bernard Escalettes, president of the French Football Federation, said he hoped this finally drew a line under the episode. ''Thierry Henry not being punished is not astonishing, it is logical,'' Escalettes said.
http://www.theage.com.au/sport/soccer/no-action-on-handball-henry-20100119-mj5f.html
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Socceroos have qualified tonight in Brisbane for the 2011 Asian Cup in Qatar.
Australia 1 ........ Milligan '42
Indonesia 0
Group B (top 2 qualify)
P W D L GF GA GD Pts
Australia 6 3 2 1 6 4 +2 11
Kuwait 5 2 2 1 6 5 +1 8
Oman 5 2 1 2 4 4 0 7
Indonesia 6 0 3 3 3 6 −3 3
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Job down but with 25 shots at goal and 75% possession one scrambled goal off the bar isn't much to boast about against weak opposition :-\. We need our guns back for the World Cup to score as we won't dominate a game like that and need to take all our chances to get through the group stage.
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Aussies unfortunantely this time round will be very lucky to get out of the group stage European based players or not.
Germany and Serbia are certainties. Their current form is heaps better than ours too.
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Aussies unfortunantely this time round will be very lucky to get out of the group stage European based players or not.
Germany and Serbia are certainties. Their current form is heaps better than ours too.
We'll need help from the others in our group. Need Germany to beat both Serbia and Ghana and for Serbia to draw with Ghana. The Socceroos then will need to beat Ghana (not unrealistic) and then hang on for a draw with Serbia to get through.
Btw the first game against the Germans looks like it's in a footy stadium lol
(http://www.fifa.com/mm/photo/tournament/loc/01/10/85/89/1108589_large.jpg)
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We'll need help from the others in our group. Need Germany to beat both Serbia and Ghana and for Serbia to draw with Ghana. The Socceroos then will need to beat Ghana (not unrealistic) and then hang on for a draw with Serbia to get through.
Btw the first game against the Germans looks like it's in a footy stadium lol
(http://www.fifa.com/mm/photo/tournament/loc/01/10/85/89/1108589_large.jpg)
Its all up against us this time though... If Germany win against us and the second game, there is every chance they will rest players in the last game handing whoever that is crucial point/s
Last time around we had Brazil second and that was a big plus for us as it meant they had already beaten Croatia. We beat Japan in the first game and from then on we were in the box seat and only needed a draw vs Croatia.
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We'll need help from the others in our group. Need Germany to beat both Serbia and Ghana and for Serbia to draw with Ghana. The Socceroos then will need to beat Ghana (not unrealistic) and then hang on for a draw with Serbia to get through.
Btw the first game against the Germans looks like it's in a footy stadium lol
(http://www.fifa.com/mm/photo/tournament/loc/01/10/85/89/1108589_large.jpg)
Its all up against us this time though... If Germany win against us and the second game, there is every chance they will rest players in the last game handing whoever that is crucial point/s
Last time around we had Brazil second and that was a big plus for us as it meant they had already beaten Croatia. We beat Japan in the first game and from then on we were in the box seat and only needed a draw vs Croatia.
True it's no doubt tougher in many ways including the order of the fixture but Germany plays Serbia in their second game and Serbia will be the main threat to us securing 2nd place in the group. If Ghana has just one point after two games then their enthusiasm won't be as high either knowing they are off home.
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Serbia will beat Ghana easily.
Unfortunantely by the time we play Ghana it will be all academic.
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Serbia will beat Ghana easily.
Unfortunantely by the time we play Ghana it will be all academic.
We play Ghana second so if we and Serbia beat Ghana and the Germans as expected beat both us and Serbia then it'll come down to the last game against Serbia and goal difference (if a draw) as to who goes through.
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31-man preliminary Socceroos squad for the WC. It'll be trimmed down to 23.
Michael Beauchamp
Mark Bresciano
Tim Cahill
Nick Carle
David Carney
Scott Chipperfield
Jason Culina
Brett Emerton
Adam Federici
Eugene Galekovic
Richard Garcia
Vince Grella
James Holland
Brett Holman
Mile Jedinak
Brad Jones
Josh Kennedy
Harry Kewell
Shane Lowry
Scott McDonald
Mark Milligan
Craig Moore
Lucas Neill
Jade North
Tommy Oar
Nikita Rukavytsya
Mark Schwarzer
Carl Valeri
Dario Vidosic
Luke Wilkshire
Rhys Williams
http://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/australia-coach-pim-verbeek-names-socceroos-squad-for-world-cup-2010/story-e6frf9if-1225864948114
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Unfortunantely they will not qualify for the knockout phase this time. Too much of an ask with that squad.
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Unfortunantely they will not qualify for the knockout phase this time. Too much of an ask with that squad.
Yep would be a big effort and surprise to get through the group stage this time around. There's an obvious lack of depth in the Aussie team in terms of world-class quality. Centre defence the major worry with Kisnorbo out injured and us still relying on veteran Craig Moore who has hardly played. Compare that to the Germans who will have a number of players battle-hardened playing in the Champions League final for Bayern Munich.
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German captain Michael Ballack ruled out of the World Cup due to an injury to his ankle sustained in Saturday nights FA Cup Final against Portsmouth. I guess that is good news to Australia as they face Germany in their first Group game in South Africa.
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Losing Ballack will hurt Germany as far as winning the WC but they have the depth to cover him against us. It'll be the games against Serbia and Ghana that will decide if we get through the group stage or not. The Serbian game especially. Lose to them obviously and it'll be bye-bye time.
Trying to think of what the starting 11 will be. I guess it depends on what formation we'll use. Either the standard 442 or we could go for a lone striker against Germany in a more defensive mode (swap Kennedy for Bresciano with either Cahill or Kewell as striker)
Schwarzer
Wilkshire Neill Moore Chipperfield
Emerton Grella Culina Kewell
Cahill Kennedy
Subs: McDonald, Bresciano, Carney, Jones (gk)
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i know we played well last world cup and made it past the group stage but i think its just a bonus if we ever do that again making the world cup will always be an achievement for australia. thats one of the reasons i think we wont get the world cup bid. cause we not promised to make it every time.
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Being in Asia now and being able to qualify for World Cup through 'easier' groups over 10 games rather than one-off playoffs, Australia should be able to qualify for most World Cups from now on. 2014 might be difficult though given the so-called golden generation will be gone (this 2010 WC is their last hoorah) and we don't appear to have the obvious talent to replace them. Get a tough Asian qualification group with Korea, Japan and Iran and it's no certainty.
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McDonald hopefully can rise up an kick a bloody goal
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McDonald hopefully can rise up an kick a bloody goal
Let's hope he gets the monkey off the back either tonight against the Kiwis or at least against Denmark or USA before the WC. For us to pull off a miracle and get through our group we need others to score so we aren't just relying on the brilliance of Timmy Cahill.
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Shocking first half and deservedly so 1-0 down.
McDonald hardly troubling anybody but to be fair the service is deplorable. Kiwis making some good chances.
Cahill replaced at half time and it looks like more of the same crap so far in the second.
On this effort we will not trouble the scorers in South Africa.
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nz 1 -0 up so far.
i would like to see us win this game. I really thought we should win it by at least 2 goals even tho we got a couple of outs.
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NZ has more motivation tonight. They're trying to justify their place in the WC and not be seen as easybeats. There's nothing for most of the Socceroos to play for.
And we've just equalised through Vidosic. One-all :thumbsup
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16 Socceroo games and no goals still for McDonald :-\
Edit: 55k were there tonight. A great crowd for a Monday night against NZ.
Just found here's where you can watch it if you don't have foxtel
http://www.iraqgoals.net/8817-australia-new-zealand.html
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16 Socceroo games and no goals still for McDonald :-\
Did they say there were 65k there. A great crowd for a Monday night against NZ.
Just found here's where you can watch it if you don't have foxtel
http://www.iraqgoals.net/8817-australia-new-zealand.html
haha thanks but its abit late in the game now.
i been listening to it by grandstand sport on abc radio.
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LOL Holman wins it with seconds to go. Aussies win 2-1 :thumbsup.
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well that saves abit of cred beating the kiwi's i still think we should of been able to beat them by 2 goals at least then just by 1 in the last second. hopefully we perform better at the other friendly's and the WC
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Very disjointed effort by the Socceroos . Sure they have some ins to come back but the positivity that was being felt four years ago is virtually non existant right now. I think with Verbeek, the players knowing he won't be there after the WC is really creating an atmosphere where both players and coach are just going through the motions and unmotivated atm.
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Agree about us being disjointed Tucky. I know we had big names out but we'll be lucky to get a point in the WC based on tonight. Only confirms to me we have a major problem in the centre of our defence.
Our so-called A-team seemed disinterested. NZ aren't a big deal for us to play anymore unlike the 80s. We did better in the second half with our B-team who were fighting for spots in the final squad of 23. Lucky it was friendly and the ref went soft on some of our tackles.
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im not a great fan of Verbeek anyways but hopefully tonight is the lowest level we'll be playing at we need to lift alot more before we play germany other wise they could be putting on a clinic against us.
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Don't worry about Germany Serbia will win the group. Aussies will struggle even if they lift their game.
Germany and Serbia will qualify easily for the second round, forget about the comparisons from 2006. I'll be very surprised if the Aussies get through.
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I just saw replays of Grella's so called tackle where he leapt both feet/studs first in the air at the kiwi player's legs. That was a disgrace and should have been straight red card. You break legs doing that sort of crap.
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Pim Verbeek has cut striker Scott McDonald, midfielder Nick Carle and defender Jade North from the provisional 28-man World Cup squad he will take to a training camp in South Africa.
http://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/scott-mcdonald-nick-carle-jade-north-axed-from-socceroos-squad/story-e6frf9if-1225871172423
The provisional squad will be cut down to 23 by June 1.
The 28-man squad
Goalkeepers:
Mark Schwarzer, Adam Federici, Brad Jones, Eugene Galekovic.
Defenders:
Scott Chipperfield, David Carney, Lucas Neill, Michael Beauchamp, Shane Lowry, Craig Moore, Mark Milligan, Rhys Williams, Luke Wilkshire.
Midfielders:
Vince Grella, Carl Valeri, Jason Culina, Mile Jedinak, Tim Cahill, Brett Holman, Dario Vidosic, Mark Bresciano, Brett Emerton, Richard Garcia, James Holland, Tommy Oar.
Strikers:
Nikita Rukavytsya, Josh Kennedy, Harry Kewell.
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The Australian National Team is stuffed going forward! The Old NSL players developed by the wog clubs who are no longer wanted in the sport will be retired or be finished as players.
Schwarzer, Galekovic, Chipperfield, Carney, Beauchamp, Milligan, Grella, Bresciano, Emerton and Kennedy just to name a few. LOL.
The A League will finish the Australian National Team, the clubs in the A League arent developing decent players and they certainly are not producing Emerton, Bresciano, Grella or Schwarzer types although in terms of GK I like Mitch Langerak and hes only good because he has been influence to become a champion because he has worn the South Melbourne shirt. The rest of the youngsters are rubbish except for Rukuvytsa whose a good player and who has the correct characteristics of being a successful soccer player ie. He plays like South Melbourne player would ;D
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The Australian National Team is stuffed going forward! The Old NSL players developed by the wog clubs who are no longer wanted in the sport will be retired or be finished as players.
Schwarzer, Galekovic, Chipperfield, Carney, Beauchamp, Milligan, Grella, Bresciano, Emerton and Kennedy just to name a few. LOL.
The A League will finish the Australian National Team, the clubs in the A League arent developing decent players and they certainly are not producing Emerton, Bresciano, Grella or Schwarzer types although in terms of GK I like Mitch Langerak and hes only good because he has been influence to become a champion because he has worn the South Melbourne shirt. The rest of the youngsters are rubbish except for Rukuvytsa whose a good player and who has the correct characteristics of being a successful soccer player ie. He plays like South Melbourne player would ;D
When the NSL was around we didn't qualify for the WC for 32 years :wallywink. Add to that junior development is still basically left in the hands of the state league (old NSL) clubs. The FFA aren't like the AFL in controlling and running the whole sport and running an Auskick equivalent. AFAIK it's up to the individual Soccer clubs themselves if they introduce things such as 5 or 6-a-side games and state Soccer federations still have a lot of say.
We're like many other minnow Soccer countries. Once in a while we get a golden generation (1974, 2006) then it peters out. With 4 football codes to supply footballers to all codes have to work hard to find players. In 2009 the only code to increase participation numbers was Aussie Rules and most of those were kids in Auskick.
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The Australian National Team is stuffed going forward! The Old NSL players developed by the wog clubs who are no longer wanted in the sport will be retired or be finished as players.
Schwarzer, Galekovic, Chipperfield, Carney, Beauchamp, Milligan, Grella, Bresciano, Emerton and Kennedy just to name a few. LOL.
The A League will finish the Australian National Team, the clubs in the A League arent developing decent players and they certainly are not producing Emerton, Bresciano, Grella or Schwarzer types although in terms of GK I like Mitch Langerak and hes only good because he has been influence to become a champion because he has worn the South Melbourne shirt. The rest of the youngsters are rubbish except for Rukuvytsa whose a good player and who has the correct characteristics of being a successful soccer player ie. He plays like South Melbourne player would ;D
When the NSL was around we didn't qualify for the WC for 32 years :wallywink. Add to that junior development is still basically left in the hands of the state league (old NSL) clubs. The FFA aren't like the AFL in controlling and running the whole sport and running an Auskick equivalent. AFAIK it's up to the individual Soccer clubs themselves if they introduce things such as 5 or 6-a-side games and state Soccer federations still have a lot of say.
We're like many other minnow Soccer countries. Once in a while we get a golden generation (1974, 2006) then it peters out. With 4 football codes to supply footballers to all codes have to work hard to find players. In 2009 the only code to increase participation numbers was Aussie Rules and most of those were kids in Auskick.
LOL
Australia got to the last world cup and this one based on NSL players- the A League hasnt produced anyone. Its a disgrace. Lastly Australia always had to beat a South American team in the past to reach the world cup, now they just have to beat Bangladesh lol ... and sadly- they wont even be able to beat them shortly. The performance against NZ was a disgrace- the end is nigh for the Socceroos and the FFA and the A League. All the clubs are broke and no one is producing any players- and the New regime has already had 6 years lol.
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The Australian National Team is stuffed going forward! The Old NSL players developed by the wog clubs who are no longer wanted in the sport will be retired or be finished as players.
Schwarzer, Galekovic, Chipperfield, Carney, Beauchamp, Milligan, Grella, Bresciano, Emerton and Kennedy just to name a few. LOL.
The A League will finish the Australian National Team, the clubs in the A League arent developing decent players and they certainly are not producing Emerton, Bresciano, Grella or Schwarzer types although in terms of GK I like Mitch Langerak and hes only good because he has been influence to become a champion because he has worn the South Melbourne shirt. The rest of the youngsters are rubbish except for Rukuvytsa whose a good player and who has the correct characteristics of being a successful soccer player ie. He plays like South Melbourne player would ;D
When the NSL was around we didn't qualify for the WC for 32 years :wallywink. Add to that junior development is still basically left in the hands of the state league (old NSL) clubs. The FFA aren't like the AFL in controlling and running the whole sport and running an Auskick equivalent. AFAIK it's up to the individual Soccer clubs themselves if they introduce things such as 5 or 6-a-side games and state Soccer federations still have a lot of say.
We're like many other minnow Soccer countries. Once in a while we get a golden generation (1974, 2006) then it peters out. With 4 football codes to supply footballers to all codes have to work hard to find players. In 2009 the only code to increase participation numbers was Aussie Rules and most of those were kids in Auskick.
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Australia got to the last world cup and this one based on NSL players- the A League hasnt produced anyone. Its a disgrace. Lastly Australia always had to beat a South American team in the past to reach the world cup, now they just have to beat Bangladesh lol ... and sadly- they wont even be able to beat them shortly. The performance against NZ was a disgrace- the end is nigh for the Socceroos and the FFA and the A League. All the clubs are broke and no one is producing any players- and the New regime has already had 6 years lol.
I didn't realise Iran/Kuwait ('77), NZ ('81), Scotland ('85), Israel ('89), Iran ('97) were South American countries :lol :wallywink.
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A League has produced jackshizen players ... even the coach is leaving, hes seen the writing on the wall already. FFA executive should resign- theyre hopeless.
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If we had beaten Israel in Sydney in 1989 we would have then played Colombia over two legs for qualification for Italia 90. If A League was that good the there would be a few players from there in the starting 11 not just a sprinkling in the squad. Will struggle in the Asian Championships next year if the veterans in the WC squad retire as there is no one in the A League credentialled enough to take their place.
To make matters worse Pim has taken 3 strikers and ironically Tommy Oar the best player from the A League in the squad won't even make the final 23. Long road ahead.
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A League has produced jackshizen players ... even the coach is leaving, hes seen the writing on the wall already. FFA executive should resign- theyre hopeless.
That's why Borussia Dortmund paid a good price for Mitch Langerak and why Tommy Oar, Michael Zullo and Adam Sarota are off to Utrecht in the Dutch Eredivisie :wallywink. Ramps the reason the Socceroo talent is thinning out is because like the draft in the AFL you pay now for neglecting kids 5-10 years ago. The NSL and Soccer Australia in the last years of its existence 2000-2004 was a broke basketcase.
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If we had beaten Israel in Sydney in 1989 we would have then played Colombia over two legs for qualification for Italia 90. If A League was that good the there would be a few players from there in the starting 11 not just a sprinkling in the squad. Will struggle in the Asian Championships next year if the veterans in the WC squad retire as there is no one in the A League credentialled enough to take their place.
To make matters worse Pim has taken 3 strikers and ironically Tommy Oar the best player from the A League in the squad won't even make the final 23. Long road ahead.
Don't forget as well as not beating Israel in that campaign we lost to Fiji in Fiji :help and then lost to NZ in Auckland :P. Some here let's calls them Ramps ;D have a nostalgic view of the old NSL when the reality was Australian players and the Socceroos team back then were crap.
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Back onto the modern day Socceroos and the World Cup, here's the SBS tv schedule for every game...
http://media.sbs.com.au/theworldgame/upload_media/site_242_rand_1279066999_sbs_fifa_world_cup_telecast_schedule.pdf
Australia vs Germany ....... 4am Mon June 14
Australia vs Ghana .......... 11:30pm Sat June 19
Australia vs Serbia .......... 4am Thurs June 24
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Good on the Matildas on winning the Asian Cup :clapping.
As for Socceroos sheesh we might be a show against Serbia if the Serbs can lose to NZ :o.
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Kennedy scored the winner for the Socceroos in the WC warm-up match tonight (well technically last night now as it's after midnight). Not pretty but another game where the job gets done.
Australia 1
Denmark 0
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SOCCEROOS coach Pim Verbeek has cut five players - Rhys Williams, Shane Lowry, Tommy Oar, James Holland and Eugene Galekovic - from his final World Cup squad named on Wednesday.
Verbeek said Middlesbrough defender Williams had an injury and would immediately return home to England.
The 23-man Australian squad for the tournament starting later this month is:
Goalkeepers: Mark Schwarzer, Adam Federici, Brad Jones.
Defenders: Scott Chipperfield, David Carney, Lucas Neill, Michael Beauchamp, Craig Moore, Mark Milligan, Luke Wilkshire.
Midfielders: Vince Grella, Carl Valeri, Jason Culina, Mile Jedinak, Tim Cahill, Brett Holman, Dario Vidosic, Mark Bresciano, Brett Emerton, Richard Garcia.
Strikers: Nikita Rukavytsya, Josh Kennedy, Harry Kewell.
http://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/australias-squad-announced/story-e6frf9if-1225874705117
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A League has produced jackshizen players ... even the coach is leaving, hes seen the writing on the wall already. FFA executive should resign- theyre hopeless.
That's why Borussia Dortmund paid a good price for Mitch Langerak and why Tommy Oar, Michael Zullo and Adam Sarota are off to Utrecht in the Dutch Eredivisie :wallywink. Ramps the reason the Socceroo talent is thinning out is because like the draft in the AFL you pay now for neglecting kids 5-10 years ago. The NSL and Soccer Australia in the last years of its existence 2000-2004 was a broke basketcase.
I only rate Langerak and Rukuvytsa from the youngsters. The rest are average. 80%+ of the squad chosen by the coach for the world cup were developed by NSL clubs- FACT!
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A League has produced jackshizen players ... even the coach is leaving, hes seen the writing on the wall already. FFA executive should resign- theyre hopeless.
That's why Borussia Dortmund paid a good price for Mitch Langerak and why Tommy Oar, Michael Zullo and Adam Sarota are off to Utrecht in the Dutch Eredivisie :wallywink. Ramps the reason the Socceroo talent is thinning out is because like the draft in the AFL you pay now for neglecting kids 5-10 years ago. The NSL and Soccer Australia in the last years of its existence 2000-2004 was a broke basketcase.
I only rate Langerak and Rukuvytsa from the youngsters. The rest are average. 80%+ of the squad chosen by the coach for the world cup were developed by NSL clubs- FACT!
Schwarzer - Marconi ...... playing OS at 22
Federici - AIS ................ playing OS at 18
Jones - Bayswater City (non-NSL)...playing OS at 18
Chipperfield - Wollongong Wolves ....playing OS at 26
Carney - Everton ............ playing OS at 16
Neill - AIS ...................... playing OS at 17
Beauchamp - Marconi/Parra/Olympic/CCM (AL)...... playing OS at 25 ...... returning to A-League (Heart)
Moore - AIS ................... playing OS at 17 .................returned to play A-League (Brisbane)
Milligan - Northern Spirit/Sydney FC/Newcastle Jets (AL) ... playing OS at 24
Wilkshire - AIS/Wollongong Wolves (youth) ..... playing OS at 17
Grella - Canberra/Carlton ...... playing OS at 19
Valeri - AIS ..........................playing OS at 18
Culina - Sydney Utd/Olympic .. playing OS at 20 ......... has returned to A-league (GCU)
Jedinak - Sydney Utd/CCM (AL) .playing OS at 20 then returned within a year and left again at 25
Cahill - Sydney Utd (youth) ..... playing OS at 17
Holman - Parramatta .............. playing OS at 18
Vidosic - Brisbane Roar (AL) .... playing OS at 20
Bresciano - Carlton ................. playing OS at 19
Emerton - AIS/Olympic ........... playing OS at 21
Garcia - West Ham ................. playing OS at 18
Rukavytsya - AIS/Perth Glory (AL) .... playing OS at 22
Kennedy - Carlton ........................... playing OS at 18
Kewell - Marconi (youth) .................. playing OS at 16
Add Williams (Middlesbrough) who just missed out due to injury and Oar was too young. Both non-NSL.
LOL @ 80% :wallywink. Lucky if it's 50% and that's including youth teams of NSL clubs so many of them didn't play in the NSL itself. Actually the AIS has done not too badly when you look at it. If we're going to include NSL youth teams then remember there's an A-League youth league but it's going to take longer than 5 years before these juniors crack into the Socceroos.
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A League has produced jackshizen players ... even the coach is leaving, hes seen the writing on the wall already. FFA executive should resign- theyre hopeless.
That's why Borussia Dortmund paid a good price for Mitch Langerak and why Tommy Oar, Michael Zullo and Adam Sarota are off to Utrecht in the Dutch Eredivisie :wallywink. Ramps the reason the Socceroo talent is thinning out is because like the draft in the AFL you pay now for neglecting kids 5-10 years ago. The NSL and Soccer Australia in the last years of its existence 2000-2004 was a broke basketcase.
I only rate Langerak and Rukuvytsa from the youngsters. The rest are average. 80%+ of the squad chosen by the coach for the world cup were developed by NSL clubs- FACT!
Schwarzer - Marconi ...... playing OS at 22
Federici - AIS ................ playing OS at 18
Jones - Bayswater City (non-NSL)...playing OS at 18
Chipperfield - Wollongong Wolves ....playing OS at 26
Carney - Everton ............ playing OS at 16
Neill - AIS ...................... playing OS at 17
Beauchamp - Marconi/Parra/Olympic/CCM (AL)...... playing OS at 25 ...... returning to A-League (Heart)
Moore - AIS ................... playing OS at 17 .................returned to play A-League (Brisbane)
Milligan - Northern Spirit/Sydney FC/Newcastle Jets (AL) ... playing OS at 24
Wilkshire - AIS/Wollongong Wolves (youth) ..... playing OS at 17
Grella - Canberra/Carlton ...... playing OS at 19
Valeri - AIS ..........................playing OS at 18
Culina - Sydney Utd/Olympic .. playing OS at 20 ......... has returned to A-league (GCU)
Jedinak - Sydney Utd/CCM (AL) .playing OS at 20 then returned within a year and left again at 25
Cahill - Sydney Utd (youth) ..... playing OS at 17
Holman - Parramatta .............. playing OS at 18
Vidosic - Brisbane Roar (AL) .... playing OS at 20
Bresciano - Carlton ................. playing OS at 19
Emerton - AIS/Olympic ........... playing OS at 21
Garcia - West Ham ................. playing OS at 18
Rukavytsya - AIS/Perth Glory (AL) .... playing OS at 22
Kennedy - Carlton ........................... playing OS at 18
Kewell - Marconi (youth) .................. playing OS at 16
Add Williams (Middlesbrough) who just missed out due to injury and Oar was too young. Both non-NSL.
LOL @ 80% :wallywink. Lucky if it's 50% and that's including youth teams of NSL clubs so many of them didn't play in the NSL itself. Actually the AIS has done not too badly when you look at it. If we're going to include NSL youth teams then remember there's an A-League youth league but it's going to take longer than 5 years before these juniors crack into the Socceroos.
LOL - HAHAHAHAHAHA
Your list shows the complete failure of the A League HAHAHAHAHAHAHA
Australian soccer is rooted because the A League clubs havent produced enough players over the last 6 years. Thats pretty apparent by your list. By the way it makes no difference when players went overseas, before they were overseas where were they? Thats right they were being developed by NSL clubs and their affiliates. I still stand by my 80% number. The A Leagues number is what exactly 2 out of 23 lol.
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A League has produced jackshizen players ... even the coach is leaving, hes seen the writing on the wall already. FFA executive should resign- theyre hopeless.
That's why Borussia Dortmund paid a good price for Mitch Langerak and why Tommy Oar, Michael Zullo and Adam Sarota are off to Utrecht in the Dutch Eredivisie :wallywink. Ramps the reason the Socceroo talent is thinning out is because like the draft in the AFL you pay now for neglecting kids 5-10 years ago. The NSL and Soccer Australia in the last years of its existence 2000-2004 was a broke basketcase.
I only rate Langerak and Rukuvytsa from the youngsters. The rest are average. 80%+ of the squad chosen by the coach for the world cup were developed by NSL clubs- FACT!
Schwarzer - Marconi ...... playing OS at 22
Federici - AIS ................ playing OS at 18
Jones - Bayswater City (non-NSL)...playing OS at 18
Chipperfield - Wollongong Wolves ....playing OS at 26
Carney - Everton ............ playing OS at 16
Neill - AIS ...................... playing OS at 17
Beauchamp - Marconi/Parra/Olympic/CCM (AL)...... playing OS at 25 ...... returning to A-League (Heart)
Moore - AIS ................... playing OS at 17 .................returned to play A-League (Brisbane)
Milligan - Northern Spirit/Sydney FC/Newcastle Jets (AL) ... playing OS at 24
Wilkshire - AIS/Wollongong Wolves (youth) ..... playing OS at 17
Grella - Canberra/Carlton ...... playing OS at 19
Valeri - AIS ..........................playing OS at 18
Culina - Sydney Utd/Olympic .. playing OS at 20 ......... has returned to A-league (GCU)
Jedinak - Sydney Utd/CCM (AL) .playing OS at 20 then returned within a year and left again at 25
Cahill - Sydney Utd (youth) ..... playing OS at 17
Holman - Parramatta .............. playing OS at 18
Vidosic - Brisbane Roar (AL) .... playing OS at 20
Bresciano - Carlton ................. playing OS at 19
Emerton - AIS/Olympic ........... playing OS at 21
Garcia - West Ham ................. playing OS at 18
Rukavytsya - AIS/Perth Glory (AL) .... playing OS at 22
Kennedy - Carlton ........................... playing OS at 18
Kewell - Marconi (youth) .................. playing OS at 16
Add Williams (Middlesbrough) who just missed out due to injury and Oar was too young. Both non-NSL.
LOL @ 80% :wallywink. Lucky if it's 50% and that's including youth teams of NSL clubs so many of them didn't play in the NSL itself. Actually the AIS has done not too badly when you look at it. If we're going to include NSL youth teams then remember there's an A-League youth league but it's going to take longer than 5 years before these juniors crack into the Socceroos.
LOL - HAHAHAHAHAHA
Your list shows the complete failure of the A League HAHAHAHAHAHAHA
Australian soccer is rooted because the A League clubs havent produced enough players over the last 6 years. Thats pretty apparent by your list. By the way it makes no difference when players went overseas, before they were overseas where were they? Thats right they were being developed by NSL clubs and their affiliates. I still stand by my 80% number. The A Leagues number is what exactly 2 out of 23 lol.
:rollin
The NSL produced what just a dozen or so World Cup Socceroos in 27 years :help and none while the NSL existed :help. The sport had to reform itself before we made it. Come back in 20 years and we'll see how many kids via the current youth system end up Socceroos playing in World Cups in that time. It'll sure be more than a dozen or so in 27 years :lol.
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Give up, Ramps.
MT embarrassing you with facts while you reply like a juvenile with made up percentages, FACT!s, and "HAHAHAHAHAHA"s.
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Socceroos 2-1 down in the first half. Both teams struggling defensively could be 4-4 after 35 mins.
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Socceroos lose 3-1 to the USA in their last warm up game before the World Cup.
Defensive frailties need to be amended fast!
Not the best result before thier first game against Germany next week. :-\
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Not surprised with Moore and Grella in the starting 11. Both are utter rubbish.
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Aussies will be lucky to get a result based on their friendlies.
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cant see how were goin to get enough goals to win or draw against germany and the other teams in our group
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Nope, will be a bleak tournament for the Aussies with a quick exit. Pim has already organised his tickets to get to ride the Marrakesh express.
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It all starts tonight (well the tournament anyway). Not looking forward to Monday morning and the German strikers and attacking mids dancing around our slow and short centre backs :help.
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A League has produced jackshizen players ... even the coach is leaving, hes seen the writing on the wall already. FFA executive should resign- theyre hopeless.
That's why Borussia Dortmund paid a good price for Mitch Langerak and why Tommy Oar, Michael Zullo and Adam Sarota are off to Utrecht in the Dutch Eredivisie :wallywink. Ramps the reason the Socceroo talent is thinning out is because like the draft in the AFL you pay now for neglecting kids 5-10 years ago. The NSL and Soccer Australia in the last years of its existence 2000-2004 was a broke basketcase.
I only rate Langerak and Rukuvytsa from the youngsters. The rest are average. 80%+ of the squad chosen by the coach for the world cup were developed by NSL clubs- FACT!
Schwarzer - Marconi ...... playing OS at 22
Federici - AIS ................ playing OS at 18
Jones - Bayswater City (non-NSL)...playing OS at 18
Chipperfield - Wollongong Wolves ....playing OS at 26
Carney - Everton ............ playing OS at 16
Neill - AIS ...................... playing OS at 17
Beauchamp - Marconi/Parra/Olympic/CCM (AL)...... playing OS at 25 ...... returning to A-League (Heart)
Moore - AIS ................... playing OS at 17 .................returned to play A-League (Brisbane)
Milligan - Northern Spirit/Sydney FC/Newcastle Jets (AL) ... playing OS at 24
Wilkshire - AIS/Wollongong Wolves (youth) ..... playing OS at 17
Grella - Canberra/Carlton ...... playing OS at 19
Valeri - AIS ..........................playing OS at 18
Culina - Sydney Utd/Olympic .. playing OS at 20 ......... has returned to A-league (GCU)
Jedinak - Sydney Utd/CCM (AL) .playing OS at 20 then returned within a year and left again at 25
Cahill - Sydney Utd (youth) ..... playing OS at 17
Holman - Parramatta .............. playing OS at 18
Vidosic - Brisbane Roar (AL) .... playing OS at 20
Bresciano - Carlton ................. playing OS at 19
Emerton - AIS/Olympic ........... playing OS at 21
Garcia - West Ham ................. playing OS at 18
Rukavytsya - AIS/Perth Glory (AL) .... playing OS at 22
Kennedy - Carlton ........................... playing OS at 18
Kewell - Marconi (youth) .................. playing OS at 16
Add Williams (Middlesbrough) who just missed out due to injury and Oar was too young. Both non-NSL.
LOL @ 80% :wallywink. Lucky if it's 50% and that's including youth teams of NSL clubs so many of them didn't play in the NSL itself. Actually the AIS has done not too badly when you look at it. If we're going to include NSL youth teams then remember there's an A-League youth league but it's going to take longer than 5 years before these juniors crack into the Socceroos.
LOL - HAHAHAHAHAHA
Your list shows the complete failure of the A League HAHAHAHAHAHAHA
Australian soccer is rooted because the A League clubs havent produced enough players over the last 6 years. Thats pretty apparent by your list. By the way it makes no difference when players went overseas, before they were overseas where were they? Thats right they were being developed by NSL clubs and their affiliates. I still stand by my 80% number. The A Leagues number is what exactly 2 out of 23 lol.
WTF are you on about ???
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A League has produced jackshizen players ... even the coach is leaving, hes seen the writing on the wall already. FFA executive should resign- theyre hopeless.
That's why Borussia Dortmund paid a good price for Mitch Langerak and why Tommy Oar, Michael Zullo and Adam Sarota are off to Utrecht in the Dutch Eredivisie :wallywink. Ramps the reason the Socceroo talent is thinning out is because like the draft in the AFL you pay now for neglecting kids 5-10 years ago. The NSL and Soccer Australia in the last years of its existence 2000-2004 was a broke basketcase.
I only rate Langerak and Rukuvytsa from the youngsters. The rest are average. 80%+ of the squad chosen by the coach for the world cup were developed by NSL clubs- FACT!
Schwarzer - Marconi ...... playing OS at 22
Federici - AIS ................ playing OS at 18
Jones - Bayswater City (non-NSL)...playing OS at 18
Chipperfield - Wollongong Wolves ....playing OS at 26
Carney - Everton ............ playing OS at 16
Neill - AIS ...................... playing OS at 17
Beauchamp - Marconi/Parra/Olympic/CCM (AL)...... playing OS at 25 ...... returning to A-League (Heart)
Moore - AIS ................... playing OS at 17 .................returned to play A-League (Brisbane)
Milligan - Northern Spirit/Sydney FC/Newcastle Jets (AL) ... playing OS at 24
Wilkshire - AIS/Wollongong Wolves (youth) ..... playing OS at 17
Grella - Canberra/Carlton ...... playing OS at 19
Valeri - AIS ..........................playing OS at 18
Culina - Sydney Utd/Olympic .. playing OS at 20 ......... has returned to A-league (GCU)
Jedinak - Sydney Utd/CCM (AL) .playing OS at 20 then returned within a year and left again at 25
Cahill - Sydney Utd (youth) ..... playing OS at 17
Holman - Parramatta .............. playing OS at 18
Vidosic - Brisbane Roar (AL) .... playing OS at 20
Bresciano - Carlton ................. playing OS at 19
Emerton - AIS/Olympic ........... playing OS at 21
Garcia - West Ham ................. playing OS at 18
Rukavytsya - AIS/Perth Glory (AL) .... playing OS at 22
Kennedy - Carlton ........................... playing OS at 18
Kewell - Marconi (youth) .................. playing OS at 16
Add Williams (Middlesbrough) who just missed out due to injury and Oar was too young. Both non-NSL.
LOL @ 80% :wallywink. Lucky if it's 50% and that's including youth teams of NSL clubs so many of them didn't play in the NSL itself. Actually the AIS has done not too badly when you look at it. If we're going to include NSL youth teams then remember there's an A-League youth league but it's going to take longer than 5 years before these juniors crack into the Socceroos.
LOL - HAHAHAHAHAHA
Your list shows the complete failure of the A League HAHAHAHAHAHAHA
Australian soccer is rooted because the A League clubs havent produced enough players over the last 6 years. Thats pretty apparent by your list. By the way it makes no difference when players went overseas, before they were overseas where were they? Thats right they were being developed by NSL clubs and their affiliates. I still stand by my 80% number. The A Leagues number is what exactly 2 out of 23 lol.
ramps - wtf are you on about mate ??
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Not surprised with Moore and Grella in the starting 11. Both are utter rubbish.
you dont play 100 games in the middle of the park in Seria A if you are 'rubbish'.
Vincenzo Grella is a good footballer. why would blackburn pay 12+ million dollars for him otherwise ..
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who cares about where the socceroo's players have came from what league its finally here the world cup starts tonight :) bring it on.
and bring on germany even though i dont like our odds im getting pumped for the game.
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Day 1 results
South Africa 1 - 1 Mexico
Uruguay 0 - 0 France
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Ramps how do you expect A-League clubs to develop youth? the youth league is only 18 or so months old and is more or less a U21 comp. give it 5-10 more years before judging.
Melbourne Victory does not have junior sides (U12's, 14's etc.) so the 'wog' clubs still have a very important role to play.
if you look at some of best young players of late like Leijer or Sprinaovic they have started at Melbourne Croatia before going to Victory, then England and Germany.
Mitch was poor for the games i saw him play at South Melbourne.
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felt sorry for south africa i really thought they could of won that the way they came out and played inthe 2nd half.
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felt sorry for south africa i really thought they could of won that the way they came out and played inthe 2nd half.
Probably a fair result in the end. Mexico dominated most of the first half and SA the second in a pretty good game to watch that was full of decent chances. At least it wasn't the snore fest of Uruguay and France :P. The French have all this attacking talent and their manager played one man up front ???.
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LOL @ England :rollin
You just realise how dependent the EPL is on foreign players especially strikers when the Poms have the likes of Heskey in their team :help.
I see the Greeks are in mourning. Very quiet here today :whistle.
South Korea were a good advertisement for the AFC countries however IMO the Socceroos aren't in their class :-\.
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yes south korean win was great for asia. oh boy what about england there top spot in there group is not guaranteed no more and they will want to win there group to get out of playing the likes of germany and go far in the cup.
poor Robert Green the british tabloids will tear him to shreds
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Well I suppose one good thing about OER being missing for the last 3 days is that it has given all the soccer fans a chance to calm down and reflect
What a shocker by the Aussie - hopefully reality has cleansed the soul :rollin :rollin
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the greeks were disgraceful in game 1 ... the aussies were more so in their game. No decent youth coming through it seems. If Australia doesnt get the World Cup in 2022 then soccer in this country is screwed. The FFA has spent way to much time trying to get the A League clubs to succeed- that in itself has been a failure with all the franchises losing millions of dollars, and the youth system has been shot to pieces by the FFA and there A League clubs as well.
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north korea game against brazil wasnt that bad of a game.
truely makes us look like the worst team of the tournament.
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Here is a different look at Australia-Germany (NSFW)
http://www.repubblica.it/sport/2010/06/12/foto/germania-australia_anticipo_con_il_bodypainting-4790958/1/
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truely makes us look like the worst team of the tournament.
With everyone having played a game now yep we've easily got that title.
Embarrassing "effort" ::). Our shirt this WC makes us look like a schoolboy team and we played like one. When you see Garcia named as a lone striker you know we're screwed. Laughable line-up by Pim. What was he also thinking changing formation for the WC after 2.5 years sticking to a completely different formation for the qualifiers. Mind you it wouldn't have made much difference. The Germans really showed that the Socceroos are too old and slow. Ghana's strikers will expose Moore and Neill as well. A massive rebuild now required post this WC.
The title of choker though goes once again to Spain losing to the Swiss. They are the Collingwood of World Cups ;D.
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Ghana’s Ibrahim Ayew has revealed his sides plan to attack Australia when the two nations meet in Rustenburg on Saturday.
Zamalek’s attacking midfielder knows the Socceroos have weaknesses following their 4-0 opening match loss to Germany and after the Ghanaians managed a narrow win over Serbia, the opportunity is there for the Africans to meet a side when they are down and make the most of their goalscoring chances.
"Australia must know we are going to attack and attack them," Ayew told News Ltd.
"We are not there to just defend, we are going to go all out. We will dominate them.
"We know they have some weak sides and we will take advantage. We are young and we are really going to use our pace."
http://www.tribalfootball.com/ghana%E2%80%99s-ayew-reveals-attacking-plan-australia-911401
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It would be great to embarrass them after mouthing off like this publicly but sadly the Germans also boasted how they would beat us and the Socceroos didn't even give a whimper in return :P.
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It would be great to embarrass them after mouthing off like this publicly but sadly the Germans also boasted how they would beat us and the Socceroos didn't even give a whimper in return :P.
When you have won 3 World Cups you can boast all you like. Aussies were just woeful. Coached awfully and prepared woefully. Pim is the Terry Wallace of World Cup coaches. Charlatan.
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Great result for the Greeks last night. At least they will go home with some pride unlike some others who probably wont score a point because there national competitions are rooted.
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:lol :lol
never let an opportunity slip by Ramps
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[/quote]Great result for the Greeks last night. At least they will go home with some pride unlike some others who probably wont score a point because there national competitions are rooted.
:lol :lol
never let an opportunity slip by Ramps
Ramps has a point there and NZ has a point and that's one more than a team that has gold in its jerseys that wishes to stage the World Cup in about 12 years.
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never let an opportunity slip by Ramps
If you kick'm in the guts when there down or you just take some decent cheap shots at your opponents when their down they dont often get back up ;D
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Bye Bye Socceroos. Germany down to 10 men and now 1-0 down to Serbia 40 mins in.
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Serbia beat Germany 1-0 what an upset. we really do need to beat ghana now. if everything goes right that flogging from germany by 4 goals could still hurt us though in the goal against.
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England choking big time.
England 0 - 0 Algeria
Slovenia 2 - 2 USA
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England won't get out of the group stage based on their first games. They were shocking overnight and just ran out of ideas. Algeria actually played the better Soccer.
Found this in the UK's Sun newspaper :ROTFL :rollin
(http://img.thesun.co.uk/multimedia/archive/01068/supersplash_sportB_1068681a.jpg)
(http://img.thesun.co.uk/multimedia/archive/01068/supersplash_sport6_1068682a.jpg)
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England will beat Slovenia, no question. Slovenia were a nervous wreck after their lead was halved and they will start this next game knowing that they should already be through to the next round.
Its just a shame that England always seem to cop an easy draw.
Still, 2nd place would most likely see them play Germany or a very in-form Ghana (cannot see us doing much at all)
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Based on last night Jake England won't get through. They are disjointed and lack cohesion. They couldn't break down an Algerian side that before last night had coceded a least one goal in every game. Spuds like Heskey will take them nowhere.
Serbia beat Germany 1-0 what an upset. we really do need to beat ghana now. if everything goes right that flogging from germany by 4 goals could still hurt us though in the goal against.
That result doesn't really change things for the Socceroos. Because of our poor goal difference we need to win both our remaining games to get out of the group stage. A win tonight would put all 4 teams on 3 points but we'd still be bottom on the table. A win and then draw against Serbia won't be enough.
SEN saying Kewell will start as our lone striker and Bresciano on the left.
Holman in for Cahill.
Same backline though :help.
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Based on last night Jake England won't get through. They are disjointed and lack cohesion. They couldn't break down an Algerian side that before last night had coceded a least one goal in every game. Spuds like Heskey will take them nowhere.
Friendly wager?
Heskey is basically the same player as Altidore who caused Slovenia great problems when the US went more direct. England will watch the second half tape, set up very direct with either Heskey or Crouch and then get their quick wide players and Rooney, Lampard, Gerrard feeding off the scraps
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Based on last night Jake England won't get through. They are disjointed and lack cohesion. They couldn't break down an Algerian side that before last night had coceded a least one goal in every game. Spuds like Heskey will take them nowhere.
Friendly wager?
Heskey is basically the same player as Altidore who caused Slovenia great problems when the US went more direct. England will watch the second half tape, set up very direct with either Heskey or Crouch and then get their quick wide players and Rooney, Lampard, Gerrard feeding off the scraps
England not getting through is about as likely as Germany not getting through to the next round after winning 4-0 in their first game.
Nice deflection MT now that the Aussies have no hope of getting through. :thumbsup
I'm with Jake England will score 3 against Slovenia in the next match. I'm confident about that. :thumbsup
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What a disaster for the Socceroos :P. One up and then concede a penalty with Kewell being sent off for hand-ball on the line. One-all and down to 10-men. Hard to see us getting the win now. Who would've thought before the WC started that Cahill and Kewell would both get straight red cards :P
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i didnt think kewell moved his arm out any to stop the ball butthat was on a slow-mo reply but if the umpire thought he did then it was always going to be a red card for it.
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Based on last night Jake England won't get through. They are disjointed and lack cohesion. They couldn't break down an Algerian side that before last night had coceded a least one goal in every game. Spuds like Heskey will take them nowhere.
Friendly wager?
Heskey is basically the same player as Altidore who caused Slovenia great problems when the US went more direct. England will watch the second half tape, set up very direct with either Heskey or Crouch and then get their quick wide players and Rooney, Lampard, Gerrard feeding off the scraps
I don't bet but if Heskey starts again up front then I'll sing God Save the Queen (and post the lyrics) if England gets through. Rooney isn't right and is very frustrated. The likes of Thompson, Lennon, Barry aren't A-grade internationals. They are playing as 11 individuals. There's no cohesion. No wonder the Pommie fans booed them off the pitch. People seriously overrate England because the EPL is the biggest and richest club league. Algeria is the weakest team in their group and England didn't look like scoring against them yet somehow Slovenia who beat Algeria is going to concede 3 goals ???.
No deflection Tucky btw. The Socceroos would be bottom 2 at this WC. I mean we go one up tonight and then sit back and let Ghana come at us ::). We didn't do that 4 years ago and good sides go for the kill. Mind you it is BS that the Ghanian didn't get a red card as well for that challenge from behind when Cahill got a red in the first game for a lot less. Both sides should be down to 10 men.
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haha i loved the pictures of the bird sitting on top of the net of englands scoring goal all on the news.
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i didnt think kewell moved his arm out any to stop the ball butthat was on a slow-mo reply but if the umpire thought he did then it was always going to be a red card for it.
Kewell was stiff as it was more reflex than deliberate hand-ball but it's always a red card if you're on the goal line and your arm is away from the body when the ball hits it. The disgrace is the Ghana player not getting red as well for his tackle from behind. Studs up sliding into the back of ankle .... hello ref learn the rules :banghead.
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I think the Socceroos just blew their chance to pinch a win. Wilkshire 1-on-1 in the box with just the keeper to beat hits in at the keeper and then follow up by Kennedy is stuffed up :P. We're actually playing well now with 10-men. Playing at pace and spreading the ball wide.
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Australia 1 - 1 Ghana
Kewell and Moore to miss the Serbia game. Cahill comes back in though.
Pts GD
Ghana 4 +1
Germany 3 +3
Serbia 3 0
Australia 1 -4
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The key question is - Will the A League Socceroos Go Winless in this World Cup Campaign?
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The key question is - Will the A League Socceroos Go Winless in this World Cup Campaign?
Still better than being the stayed at home for 27 years NSL Socceroos ;D
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The key question is - Will the A League Socceroos Go Winless in this World Cup Campaign?
Still better than being the stayed at home for 27 years NSL Socceroos ;D
thats not a bad comeback from you MT...Ill pay that but if you dont mind, Ill continue to stick the boots in when ever I can ;D
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Serbia and Germany will go through. :thumbsup
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I agree Tucky. No way the Socceroos will score 3 goals against Serbia.
thats not a bad comeback from you MT...Ill pay that but if you dont mind, Ill continue to stick the boots in when ever I can ;D
;D
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Australian supporters disgracing themselves in South Africa - chucking beer bottles and bananas at the Ghanaian players- This is what the FFA calls New Football. Yes it is - New Football not as you know it lol :lol
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The key question is - Will the A League Socceroos Go Winless in this World Cup Campaign?
How many A-Leaguers are there actually in the squad? I have no idea as I don't really follow soccer and have no interest in the world cup. But I am right in assuming there isn't many? ;D
Or are you referring to the way soccer is now set up and run in Aust now Ramps? You know the FFA's A-League
Serious question - not taking the pee
And yes I think Australia will go winless
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The key question is - Will the A League Socceroos Go Winless in this World Cup Campaign?
How many A-Leaguers are there actually in the squad? I have no idea as I don't really follow soccer and have no interest in the world cup. But I am right in assuming there isn't many? ;D
Or are you referring to the way soccer is now set up and run in Aust now Ramps? You know the FFA's A-League
Serious question - not taking the pee
And yes I think Australia will go winless
Very few A League players or A League developed players are in this squad. The A League clubs have failed in terms of developing the next generation IMHO- thats why this national team is still going, more than half should have retired 4 years ago but didnt ::) I have issues with how the FFA runs football in this country its amateur hour stuff almost as bad as the NSL. The failure to develop young players is the worst thing they have done!
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Italy 1 - 1 New Zealand :gobdrop
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How are the true A-League team going in the world cup? :rollin
Oh that's right, New Zealand, fighting well above their weight. Good on them. :cheers
The Socceroos have nothing to do with the A-League, especially when the coach picked pretty much all over the hill players who don't have a club or are coming to their end because he is so bloody conservative. :banghead
Australian supporters disgracing themselves in South Africa - chucking beer bottles and bananas at the Ghanaian players- This is what the FFA calls New Football. Yes it is - New Football not as you know it lol :lol
Fifa is to look into reports that plastic bottles were thrown on to the pitch during Australia's World Cup Group D match against Ghana.
Socceroos supporters are reported to have thrown the bottles on to the field at the Royal Bafokeng Stadium in Rustenburg as the sides drew 1-1 yesterday. It is understood that none of the bottles struck players, and landed on the athletics track around the pitch.
Where did bananas and beer bottles come from???? :rollin
Could you have a much bigger agenda ramps? ;D
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How are the true A-League team going in the world cup? :rollin
Oh that's right, New Zealand, fighting well above their weight. Good on them. :cheers
The Socceroos have nothing to do with the A-League, especially when the coach picked pretty much all over the hill players who don't have a club or are coming to their end because he is so bloody conservative. :banghead
Australian supporters disgracing themselves in South Africa - chucking beer bottles and bananas at the Ghanaian players- This is what the FFA calls New Football. Yes it is - New Football not as you know it lol :lol
Fifa is to look into reports that plastic bottles were thrown on to the pitch during Australia's World Cup Group D match against Ghana.
Socceroos supporters are reported to have thrown the bottles on to the field at the Royal Bafokeng Stadium in Rustenburg as the sides drew 1-1 yesterday. It is understood that none of the bottles struck players, and landed on the athletics track around the pitch.
Where did bananas and beer bottles come from???? :rollin
Could you have a much bigger agenda ramps? ;D
Plastic Bottles had beer in them = Beer Bottles for mine, Bananas story is that 2 bananas were thrown onto the field also - dont know myself - I didnt see it, just a rumour anyway its disgraceful conduct and yes I have a bigger agenda. I will soon change my nic to a new nic to reflect this agenda. A Richmond Flag, South Melbourne taking over Australian Soccer and Wogs taking over Richmond. Now thats an agenda, and when Im through doing that, Ill start my campaign to get rid of Federal Labor who are the worst government in Australian Political History, people in past slammed poor Gough Whitlams government, atleast Goughs government left us Medicare! Just a normal week in the forums and in life lol ;D
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http://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/world-cup-2010/ffa-denounces-world-cup-yobs/story-fn5cbbvw-1225882038199
The FFA has condemned the boorishness of Australian fans who peppered Royal Bakofeng Stadium with beer bottles during the Socceroos' controversial 1-1 draw with Ghana.
In a major embarrasment that some supporters fear will jeopardise our $45 million 2022 World Cup bid, two spearate volleys of about a dozen bottles were hurled on the pitch in protest at referee Roberto Rosetti's dubious calls.
There was also a physical altercation between two Australian males immediately after full-time, as well as reports of racial taunting toward Ghanian supporters.
The majority of projectiles were launched by a section of green and gold-clad fans in the upper western tier, with some hitting spectators below and another narrowly missing a ballboy.
The incident was the first of its kind at this tournament, leaving the majority of Australians appalled at the impression it might leave upon the rest of the world.
"We don't condone that sort of behaviour at any stage - no matter how frustrating the game may be," FFA spokesman Rod Allen said.
"We would urge all fans to be on their best behaviour. The FFA has worked very hard to stamp out anti-social behaviour and we'd expect our fans to do the right thing when travelling overseas.
"It's very unusual behaviour for Australian fans and we hope it would be a one-off."
David Gilbert, a doctor from Melbourne, described the scenes as "disgraceful".
"It was terrible, absolutely disgraceful behaviour and it made me ashamed to be honest," Mr Gilbert said. "I was embarrassed that people would throw full beers that could injure others."
Female fan Penny McElhinney from Sydney was also left red-faced.
"There was a mother who had to shield her child right in front of me," Ms McElhinney said.
"It was disgraceful because we're on show to the rest of the world and we're trying to have this tournament hosted in Australia."
But another supporter, Matt Hooper, sympathised with the extreme frustration that led to the bottles being thrown.
"We were seated in the same area as the bottles were being thrown, and there was plenty of angry people," the Brisbane 23-year-old said.
"I can sort of understand why it happened, although it's not a great look.
"I'm here with eight mates and most of them are rugby league fans that we convinced to come to Africa and support the Socceroos. That referee let the Australian public down.
"It's no wonder people acted like that, because how's the Australian public meant to get behind football when we keep copping decisions like that."
News Ltd reporters also witnessed a disagreement between two Australian men just after the final whistle, which threatened to turn nasty until calmer heads prevailed.
Another supporter, who did not wish to be named, alleged that Ghanian fans were called "black c...." by a group of Australians while celebrating the Socceroos' first goal of the tournament.
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Portugal killed it tonight crushing north korea 7-0.
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Portugal killed it tonight crushing north korea 7-0.
I'd love to see what result the Dear Leader tells the North Korean public about this one. Maybe a gritty 1-0 win :lol
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the commentator said the game was being broad casted live into north korea for the first time this world cup. so i expect theres not much he can do for them on this one. besides maybe send them to the firing squad./
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North Koreans will need the electricity turned on first for their tellies to work ;)
(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/a/a3/Korean_peninsula_at_night.jpg/160px-Korean_peninsula_at_night.jpg)
Maybe a coincidence that its a southern hemisphere world cup but all five South American countries are looking very strong and will make the final 16.
LOL @ France imploding big time. Karma! :thumbsup
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Uruguay and Mexico through to the final 16. South Africa and France out. SA the first host nation to fail to make it out of the group stage.
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SBS saying Holman is out and Cahill in and Beauchamp in for Moore. No surprise Timmy is back but as much as Holman has his critics he has kicked our last two goals.
Might add digital tv is great for the WC right now with SBS showing games on simultaneously on their separate digital channels. Will come in handy tomorrow morning.
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Lucky Schwarzer has saved our bacon 3 times or we'd be heading for a flogging. Ghana nil all with Germany so unless Ghana can pinch a goal to win their game our game won't matter anyway. I can't see us scoring 3 or 4 goals we need.
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Great goals by Cahill and Holman :thumbsup. Still need two more unless Germany can get another one or two against Ghana :pray.
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Damn Serbia scored. No chance now.
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Good win by the Aussies in the end so at least we go home with our heads held up high equalling a win and a draw of 2006. The German disaster stuffed us up in the end. Too much of a goal difference to catch up.
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Serbs were cheated. One goal that was a clear goal and a clear penalty. The Serbs and not Ghana should have gone through!
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Serbs were cheated. One goal that was a clear goal and a clear penalty. The Serbs and not Ghana should have gone through!
Fishing again Ramps :rollin. Got to stick up for your Orthodox comrades :wallywink.
Serbs only have themselves to blame for missing 3 good chances in the first half. Socceroos pantsed them in the second half.
I was right too about Heskey. Dumped for DeFoe who scores and the Poms get through. God Save the Queen ;D. Match of the round of 16 against Germany. At least England finally played with a bit of oomph, togetherness and quick ball movement. Milner was b.o.g. on the right wing. Still it's a concern the Poms could only score one goal.
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One thing you can say about the serbs and their Balkan mates is that they crack under pressure.
Far superior technically, but didn't have the ticker.
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Serbs were cheated. One goal that was a clear goal and a clear penalty. The Serbs and not Ghana should have gone through!
Fishing again Ramps :rollin. Got to stick up for your Orthodox comrades :wallywink.
Serbs only have themselves to blame for missing 3 good chances in the first half. Socceroos pantsed them in the second half.
I was right too about Heskey. Dumped for DeFoe who scores and the Poms get through. God Save the Queen ;D. Match of the round of 16 against Germany. At least England finally played with a bit of oomph, togetherness and quick ball movement. Milner was b.o.g. on the right wing. Still it's a concern the Poms could only score one goal.
I dont fish I just buy it. I stick up for all christians irrespective of there religious affiliation, although I do support fellow Christian Orthodox brethren who are recognised by the Orthodox Church as being recognised. Its Brazils Cup for mine, but the Italians may do diving con jobs in games and cause some serious damage.
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Serbs were cheated. One goal that was a clear goal and a clear penalty. The Serbs and not Ghana should have gone through!
Fishing again Ramps :rollin. Got to stick up for your Orthodox comrades :wallywink.
Serbs only have themselves to blame for missing 3 good chances in the first half. Socceroos pantsed them in the second half.
I was right too about Heskey. Dumped for DeFoe who scores and the Poms get through. God Save the Queen ;D. Match of the round of 16 against Germany. At least England finally played with a bit of oomph, togetherness and quick ball movement. Milner was b.o.g. on the right wing. Still it's a concern the Poms could only score one goal.
I dont fish I just buy it. I stick up for all christians irrespective of there religious affiliation, although I do support fellow Christian Orthodox brethren who are recognised by the Orthodox Church as being recognised. Its Brazils Cup for mine, but the Italians may do diving con jobs in games and cause some serious damage.
If I had a roughie at this stage to make the semis it would be the US. They play very direct physical football and have pace to burn with players like Donovan and Bradley running of the big man Altidore. Its simple stuff but quite effective.
In that half of the draw I think they would beat Ghana and then play the winner of England/Germany, neither of whom are going great guns (can never rule out the efficient Germans though)
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but the Italians may do diving con jobs in games and cause some serious damage.
Italy hasn't won a diving medal in the Olympics since 1980.
I suppose that because all their best divers play soccer?
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but the Italians may do diving con jobs in games and cause some serious damage.
Italy hasn't won a diving medal in the Olympics since 1980.
I suppose that because all their best divers play soccer?
Argentina for mine to win the World Cup. I'm on their bandwagaon. :thumbsup
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Serbs were cheated. One goal that was a clear goal and a clear penalty. The Serbs and not Ghana should have gone through!
what was the clear penalty Ramps? Surely your not talking about the handball that had them jumping up and down.
stuff those pricks and to all those loser Serbs from Melbourne Park who wrecked havoc at the open well gee it would've been so sweet seeing them last night. They took the Aussies for granted and laughed at us now they look worse than us.
i cant tell you how much i enjoyed watching Serbia not go through knowing Ghana did.
Aussies did well and in a tough group should hold their heads high
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Argentina for mine to win the World Cup. I'm on their bandwagaon. :thumbsup
Same here Tucky. Diego working his magic :o.
LOL Italy finishing below NZ and out of the world cup :lol.
Bad luck to the Kiwis. Undefeated over their 3 games against the likes of Italy and Paraguay is a great effort for a small and non-traditional soccer nation :clapping.
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LOL Italy finishing below NZ and out of the world cup :lol.
Now that is Karma- diving, softie, Prima Donnas
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I think Brazil are probably the best team.
With Lucio and Julio Cesar they probably have the best defender and goalkeeper in the world at the moment, which is rare for a Brazil team.
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My early take on the round of 16....
Uruguay vs Korea
USA vs Ghana
Softest 4. Socceroos would've ended up in here if we had got through so a missed opportunity for us :P. There's going to be some very fortunate semi-finalist in a week or so's time.
Holland vs Slovakia
Brazil vs Chile/Spain/Swiss
If Spain finishes second in tonight's final group matches then two of Brazil, Holland and Spain could be knocked out before the SFs :o.
Argentina vs Mexico
Germany vs England
Another "group" of death on the way to the SFs. The Poms two most hated rivals in the Argies and Gerry. Fleet Street will have a field day with daily headlines of historical racial taunts and stereotypes :yep.
Paraguay vs Japan
Portugal vs Chile/Spain/Swiss
Spain will be hoping to finish top of their group tonight to avoid Brazil and Holland. Iberian neighbours Portugal will be a preferred opponent
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Spain are the Stkilda football club of world soccer. They are a joke.
always promise so much yet fail all the time. Team of champions but like the Poms cant work together.
I personally hope Chile do them over tonight as their style of football is unbelievable to watch. Really exciting stuff.
Italy please like watching a bunch of sissies try out for acting roles at Ramsay Street.
Never enjoyed watching those softies lose as much as i did last night. Icing would've been if NZ made it through.
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Spain are the Stkilda football club of world soccer. They are a joke.
always promise so much yet fail all the time. Team of champions but like the Poms cant work together.
I personally hope Chile do them over tonight as their style of football is unbelievable to watch. Really exciting stuff.
Italy please like watching a bunch of sissies try out for acting roles at Ramsay Street.
Never enjoyed watching those softies lose as much as i did last night. Icing would've been if NZ made it through.
Interesting isn't it? It seems the old saying that "a champion team will beat a team of champions" rings true across all sports and is still as valid today as it ever was. Think I'll just leave it at that. ;)
LOL at the description of the Italian team.
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I might go in order of preference
USA
Chile
Netherlands
England
& as I post Ghana-goo-goo go up 2-1 in extra time.
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Uruguay will now cruise into the semis. Sheesh I can't believe Ghana are in the final 8. What a missed opportunity by the Socceroos :(.
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england vs germany tonight cant wait hopefully it lives up to the hype.
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Uruguay will now cruise into the semis. Sheesh I can't believe Ghana are in the final 8. What a missed opportunity by the Socceroos :(.
I have a feeling Ghana will get to the semis purely based on the fact that the WC being staged in Africa means Ghana will have the continent behind them in support. It's abit like the Korea bandwagon in the 2002 World Cup in Asia. They will somehow beat Uruguay probably by penalties.
Then they'll be outplayed by Argentina/ England/ Germany in the semis.
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england vs germany tonight cant wait hopefully it lives up to the hype.
It has so far.
Both teams defenses very shakey. Germans slicing England's backs to go two up (first goal a U10s error from the Neuer's long ball lol) and then as usual a West Ham player has to save England against Germany ;) to get one back.
England then massively ripped off of a clear equalizer. Blind freddy could see the ball bounced in the middle of the goal and the stupid ref said it didn't go in :lol. Laughable not to have a video referee in the 21st century :wallywink.
Deutschland 2-1 up at half-time.
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That's 2 crossed off my list in quick fashion :lol
That side that basically ended our world cup are looking pretty good.
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Germany killed England. Ripped them to shreds.
The English rags will whinge about the disallowed goal, but the real injustice here is the ball. Germany come out from the first whistle and their passing is spot on. Their second goal featured a magnificent little lobbed pass off the outside of Ozil's foot.
It took 35 minutes for England to put some passes together and then the disallowed goal meant they were either going to fire up or fizzle out and it was the latter. Poor goalkeeper, poor defending (Terry is not world class and Upson is average).
Another thing - Capello picks his captain Gerrard out of position and he is having a shocker yet subs their most effective player Milner instead. Just shows that even if you are a big personality as a coach with a rep for being a hardass, the pressure of the papers and the public with England will be too much.
Germany flying though and a bloke like Schweinsteiger who is a very good player but not a superstar is currently looking just about the best passing midfielder in the world because he is used to the ball.
Imagine if the AFL introduced a new footy and Collingwood had practiced with it preseason but no-one else....
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Not so good second half once Germany had the game won. They were awesome tonight. Just too quick and ruthless for the Poms to handle. You really saw how weak the Poms were when Germany could bring on Kiessling and Gomez off the bench. These guys would start for other nations. The EPL is really harming the English national team with all the foreigners playing for the top 3 clubs. The talent pool needed to match the top nations just isn't there anymore to put even a top 11 on the park. Worse for England is their few stars have just played in their final World Cup. Only Rooney who had a shocker of a WC will be back for Brazil 2014. The whole of English Soccer needs a revamp for England's sake. The Bundesliga is now such a superior competition and is developing and nuturing elite German players for internationals. This Deutschland squad is ahead of schedule given the age of it and will be around in 2014 as well.
It's going to be tough to pick between Germany and Argentina (presuming they get through this morning) in the quarter final. I wouldn't be surprised if the winner of that game goes on and wins the WC.
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MT I watch a lot of Bundesliga with it being on one HD and they really do play an expansive style of football there. I agree the second half was superb and their counterattacking game devastating.
Some big questions for English football:
Why didn't your best keeper over the last year (Hart) get the nod when James has always been iffy?
Why wasn't Upson dropped after playing poorly against Slovenia?
Why pick your captain out of position and take your best performer off instead? If you want to play one defensive central midfielder and one attacking central midfielder and Gerrard isn't your best attacking central midfielder, why try and put square pegs in round holes?
Why didn't they take Adam Johnson who is left footed and has been in good form?
Why did Heskey, who has an awful scoring record and has hardly been in good form, continually get the nod over Crouch who looks unsightly but has an excellent goalscoring record?
They have to get rid of Capello now. Who will they go for? Redknapp or Hodgson?
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MT I watch a lot of Bundesliga with it being on one HD and they really do play an expansive style of football there. I agree the second half was superb and their counterattacking game devastating.
Some big questions for English football:
Why didn't your best keeper over the last year (Hart) get the nod when James has always been iffy?
Why wasn't Upson dropped after playing poorly against Slovenia?
Why pick your captain out of position and take your best performer off instead? If you want to play one defensive central midfielder and one attacking central midfielder and Gerrard isn't your best attacking central midfielder, why try and put square pegs in round holes?
Why didn't they take Adam Johnson who is left footed and has been in good form?
Why did Heskey, who has an awful scoring record and has hardly been in good form, continually get the nod over Crouch who looks unsightly but has an excellent goalscoring record?
They have to get rid of Capello now. Who will they go for? Redknapp or Hodgson?
All good questions Jake. I guess the short answer (I need to get to bed ;) ) is the elite talent pool isn't there and they are robbing Peter to pay Paul and playing players out of position to try and get their best 11 individuals into the same side. Problem with that is they fall apart as a team and are disjointed as we saw for most of the tournament. I also think England in the modern era has picked squads on name rather than form. Only explanation for Heskey being in the squad let alone starting in the first two matches :help. Add to that the poor effort against Algeria meant they had to face Germany tonight rather than Ghana last night. Too many cracks for cover.
Who do they go for as manager? Hmmm I think like Richmond has they have to get away from hoping a messiah comes and saves them. The problem is lack of elite talent on the pitch. This squad is IMO the poorest English team I can remember and I've been watching World Cups since 1982.
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The "world game" is well and truly dead in this country This world cup like many others have been tarnished by diving cheating blind mutha effers who cant see 2 feet ahead of them.
Personally what happened in that game was disgrace and that cheat blatter needs to be sacked. He is the biggest blight on the game for he is the one who constantly refuses to being in the 3rd umpire.
Even though my folks were born in Italy i have never enjoyed watching them and those serb lose as much as i did.
Those 2 countries have been the worst i have seen with their Ramsay Street antics. They are cheats and Homo's to boot.
i have never been to an A league match as i dont want to endure a 90 minute spectacle of a bunch of cheating pricks diving all over the place cause someone blew on their gonads.
the game is a joke
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Germany flying though and a bloke like Schweinsteiger who is a very good player but not a superstar is currently looking just about the best passing midfielder in the world because he is used to the ball.
Imagine if the AFL introduced a new footy and Collingwood had practiced with it preseason but no-one else....
That's not quite right.
Didn't the North American MLS league use it this year too? And it was used at the African Cup of Nations and in the Portugal and Argentinian leagues and a few other leagues around the world without this fuss.
I assume by you saying Schweinsteiger has an advantage means in it was used in the Bundisliga too?
And surely Adidas would have given all national teams a supply of them sometime in the lead up?
Storm in a tea cup. I'm not much of a soccer player at all but I've kicked with it and it goes like a dream.
Maybe it all comes down to altitude or simply Nike and other sponsored nations doing the right thing by their brands in bringing down adidas. :shh :shh
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Germany flying though and a bloke like Schweinsteiger who is a very good player but not a superstar is currently looking just about the best passing midfielder in the world because he is used to the ball.
Imagine if the AFL introduced a new footy and Collingwood had practiced with it preseason but no-one else....
That's not quite right.
Didn't the North American MLS league use it this year too? And it was used at the African Cup of Nations and in the Portugal and Argentinian leagues and a few other leagues around the world without this fuss.
I assume by you saying Schweinsteiger has an advantage means in it was used in the Bundisliga too?
And surely Adidas would have given all national teams a supply of them sometime in the lead up?
Storm in a tea cup. I'm not much of a soccer player at all but I've kicked with it and it goes like a dream.
Maybe it all comes down to altitude or simply Nike and other sponsored nations doing the right thing by their brands in bringing down adidas. :shh :shh
The ball the way its made has fewer panels so there's less friction on the surface of the ball as it moves through the air. The friction combined with spin is what creates a pressure difference on opposite sides of the ball and that pressure difference creates a force on the ball in the direction from high to low pressure which curves the ball as it moves through the air. It appears you really need to rip across the ball to get it to spin fast enough to make it curve. Even so I've hardly seen anyone get the ball to dip much. The ball skids and bounces too much when it hits the ground or when played long to a teammate or shot at goal it skews way over the bar or head without any dip.
IMHO the ball in this World Cup has favoured sides who play a keep possession and a quick short intricate passing game to break down defences. Very much a South American style. Of the Europeans it's probably no surprise that Spain, Germany and Holland are left as they are probably the most technically proficient with the ball in attack. Ghana has been just plain lucky with help from the referee ::).
My tips on the Quarter Finals
Uruguay vs Ghana ....... Uruguay just the superior side
Brazil vs Holland ......... As much as Holland will hold out Brazil would need to have an off night in front of goal to lose or a la Italy in 1982 a Robben or Van Persie would need to do a Rossi against Brazil.
Argentina vs Germany ........... Should be match of the Quarter Finals. Both will attack and show off their individual and team skills. It wouldn't surprise me if this went to extra time or even penalties. I can't really split them by have gone for Argentina just as I think they have more overall options in attack and defensively they won't given the young Germans so much space as the hopeless Poms did.
Paraguay vs Spain .......... Spain just the superior side.
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what an upset netherlands beating brazil 2 -1. what was the brazilian player thinking stomping on the netherlands player they lost the plot clearly after they went behind.
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what an upset netherlands beating brazil 2 -1. what was the brazilian player thinking stomping on the netherlands player they lost the plot clearly after they went behind.
Brazil are poo losers.
Pathetic in fact.
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what an upset netherlands beating brazil 2 -1. what was the brazilian player thinking stomping on the netherlands player they lost the plot clearly after they went behind.
Didn't see it coming at half-time. Brazil panicked and lost the plot which is so un-Brazilian. Both Dutch goals resulted from poor defending and then Felipe Melo has a brain fade after luckily escaping what should have been a second yellow for a poor tackle 5 minutes earlier by kicking then stomping on Robben while he was lying on the ground. The Dutch on the other hand remained calm after going behind and then took the game on and it paid off :clapping.
Robben must go close to be FIFA's player of the year. Firstly he joins Bayern Munich and they win the Bundesliga and finish runners-up in the Champions League. Today the Brazilians couldn't handle him after half-time and he turned the game's momentum totally around.
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what an upset netherlands beating brazil 2 -1. what was the brazilian player thinking stomping on the netherlands player they lost the plot clearly after they went behind.
Didn't see it coming at half-time. Brazil panicked and lost the plot which is so un-Brazilian. Both Dutch goals resulted from poor defending and then Felipe Melo has a brain fade after luckily escaping what should have been a second yellow for a poor tackle 5 minutes earlier by kicking then stomping on Robben while he was lying on the ground. The Dutch on the other hand remained calm after going behind and then took the game on and it paid off :clapping.
Robben must go close to be FIFA's player of the year. Firstly he joins Bayern Munich and they win the Bundesliga and finish runners-up in the Champions League. Today the Brazilians couldn't handle him after half-time and he turned the game's momentum totally around.
Aregentina outplayed outfought and out. Germans rack up another 4 without reply. :o
There goes my pick for the WC. Who would have thought that from the South American nations Uruguay would be in the semis and Brazil and Agies would be out. ::)
Brazil initially got cocky last night getting the early goal could have got a few more but were to flashy and lairised with backheels and pleasing to the eye touches stuff you practice on kids on the schoolyard pitch to deflate their confidence and then conceded a stupid own goal then fell behind and by the time the final whistle came they could have conceded a few more.
Holland v Spain/ Germany
It seemed such a good tournament for the South American nations at the end of the round of 16.
European nations are doing it again and this time away from European soil for the first time.
Go the Dutch or Go the Spanish. :thumbsup
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what an upset netherlands beating brazil 2 -1. what was the brazilian player thinking stomping on the netherlands player they lost the plot clearly after they went behind.
Didn't see it coming at half-time. Brazil panicked and lost the plot which is so un-Brazilian. Both Dutch goals resulted from poor defending and then Felipe Melo has a brain fade after luckily escaping what should have been a second yellow for a poor tackle 5 minutes earlier by kicking then stomping on Robben while he was lying on the ground. The Dutch on the other hand remained calm after going behind and then took the game on and it paid off :clapping.
Robben must go close to be FIFA's player of the year. Firstly he joins Bayern Munich and they win the Bundesliga and finish runners-up in the Champions League. Today the Brazilians couldn't handle him after half-time and he turned the game's momentum totally around.
Aregentina outplayed outfought and out. Germans rack up another 4 without reply. :o
Yep so much for my Argentina have the extra firepower. I thought the Germans being young might eventually struggle against the top countries who have the experience but they were awesome. It was Argentina who were overwhelmed by the moment and the opposition. Messi mustn't have been right (rumoured he was injured) as he did nothing. In both Brazil and Argentina did nothing once the momentum swung against them. No plan B. Us losing 4-0 to Germany doesn't seem so embarrassing now lol. At least the Socceroos can say they were down to 10 men for half the game whereas the Argies weren't :wallywink.
I only got 2/4 from the quarters so I'll stay out of tipping from now on. Deutschland may be heading for their 4th World Cup though if they repeat their current form twice more.
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Not so "toight" ;D at the back conceding 2 goals but the Dutch get through to the final 3-2 :clapping.
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A Spain vs Holland final. So one of them will finally get the monkey of the back and be WC champions for the first time. Spain will be favourites. The 1-0 scoreline flattered the Germans this morning.
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Spain will thrash Holland.
The german centrebacks are better than the Dutch and they were picked apart and clung on by a string.
The likes of Heitinga will be dragged all over the place. If they couldn't deal with the first Brazilian goal, they won't be able to deal with the Spanish.
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I'll go with the clog wogs
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I'll go with the clog wogs
Swamp Germans?
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Well who wouldve thought the Stkilda of world soccer Would win the world cup.
They deserved the win.
Holland played rough. They had no skill so had to resort to dirty tactics.
Now wake me up in another 4 years I care little for this sport.
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German Holger Osieck is the new Socceroos coach.
http://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/soccer/german-in-line-to-coach-socceroos/story-e6frfg8x-1225903938743
The 61-year-old arrived in Ljubljana just 24 hours before Australia’s friendly with Slovenia and will be unveiled just hours before kick off.
He will take charge of the Socceroos straight after tonight’s friendly against Slovenia, with the next match scheduled for September 3 away to Switzerland.
Osieck only senior international experience came while coaching Canada’s national team between 1999-2003, while he served as Franz Beckenbauer’s assistant when Germany won the 1990 World Cup.
Osieck, who served on FIFA’s Technical Study Group Committee at the 2010 World Cup, has hugely impressed FFA’s five-man selection panel during interviews.
Osieck most famously led Canada to the 2000 CONCACAF Gold Cup, upsetting the likes of Colombia, Mexico and Trinidad and Tobago on their way to the final.
He is familiar to Australian crowds from his stint with J-League side Urawa Red Diamonds.
Urawa, which was Osieck’s last coaching job, faced Sydney FC in the 2007 Asian Champions League group stage in the season that they won the prestigious trophy.
His Asian experience weighed hugely in his favour with FFA about to compete in the 2011 Asian Cup, while he had a long stint as youth coach of the German FA.
After a brief playing career in Germany and Canada, Osieck completed a degree in humanities and social science before acquiring his coaching licenses.
He obtained the highest available coaching qualification at the German Sport University Cologne in 1976 before joining Canada’s national team as assistant coach.
Thereafter he joined the German FA as a youth coach before joining French side Mbehindille as assistant, prior to taking charge of Bochum (Germany), Fenerbahce (Turkey), Urawa and then Kocaelispor (Turkey).
Osieck’s CV
1977-1979: Assistant coach of the Canadian national team
1979-1990: Youth coach at the German Football Federation and assistant coach of the German national team
1990-1991: Assistant coach of Olympique Marseille
1991-1992: VfL Bochum
1993-1994: Fenerbahçe Istanbul
1995-1996: Urawa Red Diamonds
1997-1998: Kocaelispor
1998-2003: National team Canada
2007-2008: Urawa Red Diamonds
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Not a PR appointment to get Soccer in the news that's for sure. Hopefully with his background it's more like a modern AFL coach appointment where his background and abilities are suited to where the Socceroos are at with the need for us to rebuild the side after so many retirements over the past 4 years.
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the FFA going from strength to strength :lol
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the FFA going from strength to strength :lol
Icing on the cake is Graham Arnold to be his 2IC for the whole term.
They really aim high the FFA do. :lol
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Icing on the cake is Graham Arnold to be his 2IC for the whole term.
Errr... NO I don't think so
He was 2IC under Pim Verbeek but has now got a gig at one of the A-League teams - Newcastle or Central Coast or something
Personally care factor = 0
The World Cup was boring, the A-League is boring, this announcement is boring :sleep :sleep
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Heard on the radio yesterday that his appointment is as much to do with his experience in youth development as that will be a large part of his job.
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Here's the Socceroos squad for the Asian Cup
Nathan Burns, Tim Cahill, David Carney, Nathan Coe, Jason Culina, Brett Emerton,
Richard Garcia, Brett Holman, Mile Jedinak, Brad Jones, Harry Kewell, Neil Kilkenny,
Robbie Kruse, Scott McDonald, Jon McKain, Matt McKay, Lucas Neill, Jade North,
Sasa Ognenovski, Mark Schwarzer, Matthew Spiranovic, Carl Valeri, Luke Wilkshire
http://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/robbie-kruse-makes-socceroos-asian-cup-squad/story-e6frf9if-1225977309708
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Squad is rubbish IMHO. Wouldnt beat Fiji IMHO.
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Squad is rubbish IMHO. Wouldnt beat Fiji IMHO.
maybe hellas could soften em up first?
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Well done to Robbie Kruse :clapping
Looks like Ersan Gulum has chosen to play for Turkey given he's been left out of the squad.
Squad is rubbish IMHO. Wouldnt beat Fiji IMHO.
Yep Timmy Cahill wouldn't even get a trial game for South Melbourne against the Springvale White Eagles. He's missing out big time on all the VPL middle table action :rollin.
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Australia has got the official go ahead to host the Asian Cup in 2015.
http://www.theage.com.au/sport/soccer/australia-formally-awarded-the-2015-asian-cup-hosting-rights-20110105-19geg.html
No clash with the other football codes to worry about either as the tournament will be held in January and only 5 stadia at the most on the eastern seaboard will host games....
Sydney, Melbourne and Brisbane are the only three cities guaranteed to host, though Canberra's Bruce Stadium and Gold Coast's Skilled Park are also in the running. It is expected that five stadiums will be used to host the 16-team event, in which the nations are split into four groups, with the top two from each advancing to the knockout phase. As host, Australia will automatically qualify for what will be its third Asian Cup since joining the confederation in 2006.
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Melbourne gets to host the 2015 opening ceremony and opening game while Sydney gets the final. No surprise there thanks to the FFA ::).
http://www.theage.com.au/sport/soccer/melbourne-to-host-asian-cup-opener-20110106-19gpc.html
As for the Asian Cup coming up now hopefully the Socceroos blew away the cobwebs and acclimatised to the conditions against UAE overnight. Not acclimatising really stuffed up our 2007 Asian Cup campaign in south-east asia.
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Melbourne gets to host the 2015 opening ceremony and opening game while Sydney gets the final. No surprise there thanks to the FFA ::).
"smell the fear" :lol
Another conspiracy against the Vics. You're becoming as bad as South Australians :shh
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You want to go WA then. It's them V the rest of oz :outtahere
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:lol
Never been to WA. Heard it's full of perverts.
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Melbourne gets to host the 2015 opening ceremony and opening game while Sydney gets the final. No surprise there thanks to the FFA ::).
"smell the fear" :lol
Another conspiracy against the Vics. You're becoming as bad as South Australians :shh
No conspiracy. I just believe the city that supports Soccer the most in terms of attendance should be rewarded with hosting the final. Although I understand the reasons I'd be more ticked off if I was a South Aussie who miss out on games altogether.
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Would you support Sydney FC if you lived in Sydney :shh
A-League attendances are irrelevant to Socceroos attendances (NSW has 3 sides BTW and has since inception and combined crowds outstrip the Victory)
NSW is the soccer heartland, Sydney just despises Glamour Jew FC
Who was the last world class Vic soccer player....... The V-Bomber
And before that? Who do we have now?
Victoria doesn't have a big enough rectangular stadium anyway to host a final. The 'G does soccer no justice, nor should it.
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Would you support Sydney FC if you lived in Sydney :shh
A-League attendances are irrelevant to Socceroos attendances (NSW has 3 sides BTW and has since inception and combined crowds outstrip the Victory)
NSW is the soccer heartland, Sydney just despises Glamour Jew FC
Who was the last world class Vic soccer player....... The V-Bomber
And before that? Who do we have now?
Victoria doesn't have a big enough rectangular stadium anyway to host a final. The 'G does soccer no justice, nor should it.
The following are Victorians :wallywink
Viduka
Bresciano
Grella
Skoko played at youth level at North Geelong
Culina played in youth teams at St Albans & Melb Knights
Kennedy
Colosimo
McDonald
Ognenovski
Špiranović
Leckie
After 6000 at Sydney last night I wouldn't be bagging Melbourne crowds if I came from the Emerald city lol. Btw there are two teams in Melbourne now and the combined home crowds are greater than the 3 NSW teams combined ;) plus Newcastle isn't Sydney.
How about basketball if we are talking global team sports - 35% of Australia's registered players are in Melbourne's southeast and the Bogie comes from Melbourne. Patrick comes from Canberra and played Aussie Rules as well as basketball as a kid. Ummm Sydney at one stage didn't even have a team in the NBL.
Yep that bloody AFL and Victoria is taking all the talent away from international sports :wallywink :lol.
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The following are Victorians :wallywink
Bresciano
Grella
Skoko played at youth level at North Geelong
Culina played in youth teams at St Albans & Melb Knights
Kennedy
Colosimo
McDonald
Ognenovski
Špiranović
Leckie
I asked for world class players not players from Victoria :wallywink
I'm well versed on our international soccer players thanks.
None of those listed are of the class and calibre of Cahill, Kewell or Schwarzer.
Skoko is a South Australian BTW.
After 6000 at Sydney last night I wouldn't be bagging Melbourne crowds if I came from the Emerald city lol. Btw there are two teams in Melbourne now and the combined home crowds are greater than the 3 NSW teams combined ;) plus Newcastle isn't Sydney.
I don't come from the Emerald City and I'm not bagging Melbourne crowds. Fact is NSW was given 3 teams when the A-League was created and Victoria only 1. Why is that? I have no problems with NSW hosting the Asian Cup Final, I think they deserve it. Vics get a bee in their bonnet whenever major sporting events go to other cities. Why? As paranoid as South Australians :lol
How about basketball if we are talking global team sports - 35% of Australia's registered players are in Melbourne's southeast and the Bogie comes from Melbourne. Patrick comes from Canberra and played Aussie Rules as well as basketball as a kid. Ummm Sydney at one stage didn't even have a team in the NBL.
What does basketball have to do with soccer ??? :wallywink
Yep that bloody AFL and Victoria is taking all the talent away from international sports :wallywink :lol.
Where did I support that opinion? You must have me confused with someone else :wallywink
You seem to have gotten your knickers in a twist about that twit saying Vics/AFL are stealing our cricket talent and brought it into this argument about who should host the Asian Cup. :wallywink
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" :wallywink"
;D
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Socceroos beat India 4-0 overnight. Timmy Cahill scored a brace with Kewell and Holman the other goalscorers.
Group C
Pl W D L F A GD Pts
Australia 1 1 0 0 4 0 +4 3
South Korea 1 1 0 0 2 1 +1 3
Bahrain 1 0 0 1 1 2 –1 0
India 1 0 0 1 0 4 –4 0
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Should have been 5 goals, with a hat trick for Timmy, clearly onside, poor refereeing.
India's keeper was good, could have been 7-8 goals.
And their captain CLIMAX :lol
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I asked for world class players not players from Victoria :wallywink
I'm well versed on our international soccer players thanks.
None of those listed are of the class and calibre of Cahill, Kewell or Schwarzer.
Skoko is a South Australian BTW.
Skoko was born in Mt Gambier but he played his junior soccer in Victoria (North Geelong).
As for world class players I guess it depends on your definition of world class. For mine there has never been an Aussie I would call world class. Messi, Nani, Fabregas, Iniesta, Robben, Drogba, etc are world class. I love Timmy Cahill and the way he plays but he ain't in that group. When an Aussie starts starring for the likes of Barca, Madrid, Man U, Milan clubs then they'll be world class. Australian soccer players are technically deficient compared to the best. Viduka and Kewell were/are our most technically gifted players. If you mean playing on the world stage in one of the big leagues in Europe as being world class then Bresciano and Grella playing in Serie A and Viduka in EPL would easily fit in that category.
I don't come from the Emerald City and I'm not bagging Melbourne crowds. Fact is NSW was given 3 teams when the A-League was created and Victoria only 1. Why is that? I have no problems with NSW hosting the Asian Cup Final, I think they deserve it. Vics get a bee in their bonnet whenever major sporting events go to other cities. Why? As paranoid as South Australians :lol
And Qld has 3 teams as well and Brisbane is getting bigger soccer crowds than Sydney. So Brisbane should host the Asian Cup final based on that theory ;).
You say why did I bring up basketball in a soccer thread and then you bring up major sporting events in general to bag Victorians as paranoid whingers :wallywink. Based on media stories such as the one in the other thread you'll find the paranoia these days is coming from east of the Blue Mountains especially from the Daily Telegraph.
Anyway as far as soccer in Oz goes, Melbourne supports the code where it matters - bums on seats and membership at both domestic and international matches. In modern professional sport, bigger crowd support means bigger and better sponsors = $$$. That's why the AFL is the biggest and wealthiest sport in the country. Having the most 8-12 year olds running around on a Sat/Sun means diddly squat as soccer's large participation levels in Oz have never converted into attendance, sponsorship or a financial powerbase. I don't have an issue with major sporting events being hosted in Sydney - Olympics, World Cup rugby, etc - as Sydney supports them very well. Geez I would love Sydney to host the AFL Grand Final every so often (unless Richmond was playing) to promote Aussie Rules in the land of the infidel ;D. I just believe when the Victory get 3 times the crowd Sydney did on the weekend it shows which city supports the code the most and where it matters and that support should be rewarded when it comes to major soccer tournaments. Even Adelaide and Brisbane have larger crowds now than Sydney. When the FFA tried to introduce a second Sydney side in the self-proclaimed "heartland" of Aussie soccer in Western Sydney they couldn't even generate the necessary finances to even get a club started :wallywink. Sydney is Rugby League heartland just as Melbourne is Aussie Rules heartland. Soccer just has much larger participation levels than both footy and NRL in each respective state.
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Should have been 5 goals, with a hat trick for Timmy, clearly onside, poor refereeing.
India's keeper was good, could have been 7-8 goals.
Yep Timmy was robbed.
Aussies went through the motions in the second half. No need to peak in the first game.
And their captain CLIMAX :lol
Climax Lawrence - where did his parents pull that name from in India! :laugh:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Climax_Lawrence
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Skoko was born in Mt Gambier but he played his junior soccer in Victoria (North Geelong).
As for world class players I guess it depends on your definition of world class. For mine there has never been an Aussie I would call world class. Messi, Nani, Fabregas, Iniesta, Robben, Drogba, etc are world class. I love Timmy Cahill and the way he plays but he ain't in that group. When an Aussie starts starring for the likes of Barca, Madrid, Man U, Milan clubs then they'll be world class. Australian soccer players are technically deficient compared to the best. Viduka and Kewell were/are our most technically gifted players. If you mean playing on the world stage in one of the big leagues in Europe as being world class then Bresciano and Grella playing in Serie A and Viduka in EPL would easily fit in that category.
Viduka was world class, no doubt about it. If you read my post I said that.
Kewell, Dukes, Cahill, Schwarsy, Bozza have all starred on the European and/or International stage and could have got a game for any big club. They are or were world class players in my def. Bresca and Grella play for two of the pootest clubs in Italy and whilst good players are not greats.
And junior soccer in Geelong does not make a Victorian :wallywink
You say why did I bring up basketball in a soccer thread and then you bring up major sporting events in general to bag Victorians as paranoid whingers :wallywink. Based on media stories such as the one in the other thread you'll find the paranoia these days is coming from east of the Blue Mountains especially from the Daily Telegraph.
No seriously, what has basketball got to do with anything? Victorians being paranoid is entirely relevant :lol
And Qld has 3 teams as well and Brisbane is getting bigger soccer crowds than Sydney. So Brisbane should host the Asian Cup final based on that theory ;). Anyway as far as soccer in Oz goes, Melbourne supports the code where it matters - bums on seats and membership at both domestic and international matches. In modern professional sport, bigger crowd support means bigger and better sponsors = $$$. That's why the AFL is the biggest and wealthiest sport in the country. Having the most 8-12 year olds running around on a Sat/Sun means diddly squat as soccer's large participation levels in Oz have never converted into attendance, sponsorship or a financial powerbase. I don't have an issue with major sporting events being hosted in Sydney - Olympics, World Cup rugby, etc - as Sydney supports them very well. Geez I would love Sydney to host the AFL Grand Final every so often (unless Richmond was playing) to promote Aussie Rules in the land of the infidel ;D. I just believe when the Victory get 3 times the crowd Sydney did on the weekend it shows which city supports the code the most and where it matters and that support should be rewarded when it comes to major soccer tournaments. Even Adelaide and Brisbane have larger crowds now than Sydney. When the FFA tried to introduce a second Sydney side in the self-proclaimed "heartland" of Aussie soccer in Western Sydney they couldn't even generate the necessary finances to even get a club started :wallywink. Sydney is Rugby League heartland just as Melbourne is Aussie Rules heartland. Soccer just has much larger participation levels than both footy and NRL in each respective state.
No one likes Sydney FC. They've failed to engage the community and they waltz around the eastern suburbs like they are the Galacticos. Unlike Victory and to a lesser extent the Reds, they haven't been able to pull together all the different ethnic and supporter lines from the old NSL. It's failed because of Lowy and his jobs for the old Sydney City/Hakoah boys. All the old NSL supporters see FC as City, so they wont get behind them. The NSW Premier League on the other hand is well supported, so don't align A-league crowds with support for soccer in NSW. They'll eventually have 5 A-league teams if Lowy doesn't eff it all up. I don't know if Victoria or QLD could support 5 sides.
The fans also turn up in droves for Internationals. With a good opponent or something on the line, ANZ Stadium is always a near sellout, even against nothing sides or friendlies the place is well attended. eff, AUS v Uzbekistan drew 57k and it bucketed rain for days. 80k went and saw LA Galaxy in a club friendly FFS - that's more than turned up at the 'G for the Socceroos last game before the World Cup. The soccer final at the Sydney Olympics had over 100k. The support is there and the decision to host the Asian Cup Final there is justified IMO.
Regardless, the MCG is not a good soccer venue. Count your blessings you get the Opener :rollin
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Ahhh Gerks and MT, You guys are great! I love a good Ron Casey V Normie Rowe stoush! You are far more interesting than "Chicks with Pics". ;D
As for Climax Lawrence, Maybe he is related in some way to Sheila Dikpoo (easy swear filter...Easy boy! Legitimate surname.) its Diksh1t not Dikpoo!!
Mods can we remove the word poo from the swear filter. We're not in the Bible belt dancing to songs from the footloose soundtrack. Even my Seven year old son thinks its the best sounding word he knows! Not that I totally approve, but if it can be said on prime time TV then I think we should allow it here.
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Should have been 5 goals, with a hat trick for Timmy, clearly onside, poor refereeing.
India's keeper was good, could have been 7-8 goals.
And their captain CLIMAX :lol
That keeper was real good. One of those saves was amazing and he nearly got a finger to H's beauty of a strike. The dude won't be in the Indian league after this tourny. Some of the free kicks the Indian keeper got were a bit soft though. :-\ Indian crowd were great as well
Didn't like the commentary. Patronising twats
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And their captain CLIMAX :lol
Climax Lawrence - where did his parents pull that name from in India! :laugh:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Climax_Lawrence
His father's name was Lawrence, actually.
Just before conception his mother said "hurry up and ......."
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Andy Harper is a bag full of dried up ****s
One of those free kicks to the keeper where he actually copped a whack around the beak, Harps said there was nothing in it and it was friendly fire. Replays showed his teammate was nowhere near him and Jedinak clearly almost split the guy open with a raised arm around the face. Harps just ignored it and kept waffling on. He also said at one point Emerton had two assists and a goal.
Seriously ordinary bloke.
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Mods can we remove the word poo from the swear filter. We're not in the Bible belt dancing to songs from the footloose soundtrack.
:lol
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Andy Harper is a bag full of dried up ****s
One of those free kicks to the keeper where he actually copped a whack around the beak, Harps said there was nothing it it and it was friendly fire. Replays showed his teammate was nowhere near him and Jedinak clearly almost split the guy open with a raised arm around the face. Harps just ignored it and kept waffling on. He also said at one point Emerton had two assists and a goal.
Seriously ordinary bloke.
Yeah, that free was definitely there. What the stuff was Jedinaks arm doing up there? You cant do that poo when the keeper is claiming a cross.
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I sometimes see the FoxSports guys down the pub and always make a point of saying gday to Trimmers, Bulldog and Bozza, and completely ignoring Harps.
Maybe Victory should sign that Indian keeper?
CLIMAX would def be a great replacement for Muscat too.
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I sometimes see the FoxSports guys down the pub and always make a point of saying gday to Trimmers, Bulldog and Bozza, and completely ignoring Harps.
Maybe Victory should sign that Indian keeper?
CLIMAX would def be a great replacement for Muscat too.
do you think we could get him to come?
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might have to work a couple of angles
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We'll be right as long as Ernie doesn't rub him the wrong way :whistle
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Viduka was world class, no doubt about it. If you read my post I said that.
Kewell, Dukes, Cahill, Schwarsy, Bozza have all starred on the European and/or International stage and could have got a game for any big club. They are or were world class players in my def. Bresca and Grella play for two of the pootest clubs in Italy and whilst good players are not greats.
Bresca played for Parma when they were finishing 5th in Serie A and qualifying for Europe comps. Likewise Palermo (the pink shirt wasn't a great look lol).
And junior soccer in Geelong does not make a Victorian :wallywink
So migrating to Australia when you're a very young kid doesn't make you an Aussie :wallywink.
No one likes Sydney FC. They've failed to engage the community and they waltz around the eastern suburbs like they are the Galacticos. Unlike Victory and to a lesser extent the Reds, they haven't been able to pull together all the different ethnic and supporter lines from the old NSL. It's failed because of Lowy and his jobs for the old Sydney City/Hakoah boys. All the old NSL supporters see FC as City, so they wont get behind them. The NSW Premier League on the other hand is well supported, so don't align A-league crowds with support for soccer in NSW. They'll eventually have 5 A-league teams if Lowy doesn't eff it all up. I don't know if Victoria or QLD could support 5 sides.
You haven't read Ramps (10 Flags) harping on about his beloved South Melbourne Hellas for the past 6 years ;D. Followers of the old NSL clubs don't follow the A-league down here either. As for the NSWPL being well supported - crowds of a thousand or so at best ain't much to write home about. No different to the VPL with South, Knights, Heidelberg and Preston. That's why the NSL went broke. Too many teams with little support.
The fans also turn up in droves for Internationals. With a good opponent or something on the line, ANZ Stadium is always a near sellout, even against nothing sides or friendlies the place is well attended. eff, AUS v Uzbekistan drew 57k and it bucketed rain for days. 80k went and saw LA Galaxy in a club friendly FFS - that's more than turned up at the 'G for the Socceroos last game before the World Cup. The soccer final at the Sydney Olympics had over 100k. The support is there and the decision to host the Asian Cup Final there is justified IMO.
Regardless, the MCG is not a good soccer venue. Count your blessings you get the Opener :rollin
No one was saying that after the Iran '97 game or the farewell game before Germany 2006 against Greece which both attracted 95k. The great myth is that oval stadia make poor soccer stadia. Funny how half of all the World Cup finals have been played in them ;). In any case once in a blue moon international games don't measure the week in week out support the game needs at club level to survive and thrive as you get mostly theatregoers attending wanting to be at a "event". That LA Galaxy game is the perfect example. If Beckham wasn't playing no one would have turned up to see the same two clubs play.
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A good result for the Socceroos overnight. 1-1 will do against South Korea even if both goals were from defensive errors. Now all we need is a draw in the final group game against Bahrain to go through to the quarters.
W D L GD Pts
Australia 1 1 0 +4 4
South Korea 1 1 0 +1 4
Bahrain 1 0 1 +2 3
India 0 0 2 −7 0
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A good result for the Socceroos overnight. 1-1 will do against South Korea even if both goals were from defensive errors. Now all we need is a draw in the final group game against Bahrain to go through to the quarters.
W D L GD Pts
Australia 1 1 0 +4 4
South Korea 1 1 0 +1 4
Bahrain 1 0 1 +2 3
India 0 0 2 −7 0
Now MT ... try and be sensible at least. Since when is a draw a good result? The problem Australia has is that the A League is producing poo. From what I can see Australian soccer is still living off the "Old Soccer" developed players. Complete and utter joke is New Football. ;D
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Draw was a good result :-*
Few injuries though. Schwarzy :cheers That old idiot is always saving our ar$es
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A good result for the Socceroos overnight. 1-1 will do against South Korea even if both goals were from defensive errors. Now all we need is a draw in the final group game against Bahrain to go through to the quarters.
W D L GD Pts
Australia 1 1 0 +4 4
South Korea 1 1 0 +1 4
Bahrain 1 0 1 +2 3
India 0 0 2 −7 0
Now MT ... try and be sensible at least. Since when is a draw a good result? The problem Australia has is that the A League is producing poo. From what I can see Australian soccer is still living off the "Old Soccer" developed players. Complete and utter joke is New Football. ;D
As long as we pick up points and qualify from the group who cares how we do it. In football of any kind only results matter. You want to be peaking in the knockout stage of the tournament when winning individual matches count.
Don't worry Ramps, you old NSL fans can reminisce about winning the 2000 Oceania Nations Cup in front of 300 people or beating that Soccer powerhouse Tahiti in 1980 and 1996 while failing to qualify for any World Cup over 27 years ;) ;D.
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A good result for the Socceroos overnight. 1-1 will do against South Korea even if both goals were from defensive errors. Now all we need is a draw in the final group game against Bahrain to go through to the quarters.
W D L GD Pts
Australia 1 1 0 +4 4
South Korea 1 1 0 +1 4
Bahrain 1 0 1 +2 3
India 0 0 2 −7 0
Now MT ... try and be sensible at least. Since when is a draw a good result? The problem Australia has is that the A League is producing poo. From what I can see Australian soccer is still living off the "Old Soccer" developed players. Complete and utter joke is New Football. ;D
As long as we pick up points and qualify from the group who cares how we do it. In football of any kind only results matter. You want to be peaking in the knockout stage of the tournament when winning individual matches count.
Don't worry Ramps, you old NSL fans can reminisce about winning the 2000 Oceania Nations Cup in front of 300 people or beating that Soccer powerhouse Tahiti in 1980 and 1996 while failing to qualify for any World Cup over 27 years ;) ;D.
You've argued long and hard against that statement in the tanking debates ;D :outtahere
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A good result for the Socceroos overnight. 1-1 will do against South Korea even if both goals were from defensive errors. Now all we need is a draw in the final group game against Bahrain to go through to the quarters.
W D L GD Pts
Australia 1 1 0 +4 4
South Korea 1 1 0 +1 4
Bahrain 1 0 1 +2 3
India 0 0 2 −7 0
Now MT ... try and be sensible at least. Since when is a draw a good result? The problem Australia has is that the A League is producing poo. From what I can see Australian soccer is still living off the "Old Soccer" developed players. Complete and utter joke is New Football. ;D
As long as we pick up points and qualify from the group who cares how we do it. In football of any kind only results matter. You want to be peaking in the knockout stage of the tournament when winning individual matches count.
Don't worry Ramps, you old NSL fans can reminisce about winning the 2000 Oceania Nations Cup in front of 300 people or beating that Soccer powerhouse Tahiti in 1980 and 1996 while failing to qualify for any World Cup over 27 years ;) ;D.
lol
sorry ramps but thats funny
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A good result for the Socceroos overnight. 1-1 will do against South Korea even if both goals were from defensive errors. Now all we need is a draw in the final group game against Bahrain to go through to the quarters.
W D L GD Pts
Australia 1 1 0 +4 4
South Korea 1 1 0 +1 4
Bahrain 1 0 1 +2 3
India 0 0 2 −7 0
Now MT ... try and be sensible at least. Since when is a draw a good result? The problem Australia has is that the A League is producing poo. From what I can see Australian soccer is still living off the "Old Soccer" developed players. Complete and utter joke is New Football. ;D
As long as we pick up points and qualify from the group who cares how we do it. In football of any kind only results matter. You want to be peaking in the knockout stage of the tournament when winning individual matches count.
Don't worry Ramps, you old NSL fans can reminisce about winning the 2000 Oceania Nations Cup in front of 300 people or beating that Soccer powerhouse Tahiti in 1980 and 1996 while failing to qualify for any World Cup over 27 years ;) ;D.
You've argued long and hard against that statement in the tanking debates ;D :outtahere
I mean results as in doing what is required to win tournaments or in footy premierships. You don't need to win every game to win trophies; only the ones that matter in the long run. That's why a draw against Korea (best opposition in our group) was a good result as it put the Socceroos in a position to only need a draw to go through to the quarter finals. Sure a win would've been nice but I'd rather win in the knockout stage and win the Cup as that is what counts and what people will remember; not some group stage win. Same goes in footy - winning games that hinder your rebuild and lose you top draft picks won't be remembered; whereas gaining a top class young footballer that adds to a list that helps you go on to win the flag will be :thumbsup.
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was taking the pee, MT :cheers
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was taking the pee, MT :cheers
Yeah I know ;D :thumbsup but I thought I'd explain myself anyway just to attract Ramps to this thread again for a laugh :laugh:.
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Be good to win it and go back to back in Sydney in 2015 ;D
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was taking the pee, MT :cheers
Yeah I know ;D :thumbsup but I thought I'd explain myself anyway just to attract Ramps to this thread again for a laugh :laugh:.
Get your net ready MT as Yellow fin Ramps can't be too far away. It will be like watching "the deadliest catch"! ;D
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was taking the pee, MT :cheers
Yeah I know ;D :thumbsup but I thought I'd explain myself anyway just to attract Ramps to this thread again for a laugh :laugh:.
Get your net ready MT as Yellow fin Ramps can't be too far away. It will be like watching "the deadliest catch"! ;D
Net is in place ;D
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Socceroos beat Bahrain 1-0 and finished top of Group C.
W D L GD Pts
Australia 2 1 0 +5 7
South Korea 2 1 0 +4 7
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Bahrain 1 0 2 +1 3
India 0 0 3 −10 0
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A good result for the Socceroos overnight. 1-1 will do against South Korea even if both goals were from defensive errors. Now all we need is a draw in the final group game against Bahrain to go through to the quarters.
W D L GD Pts
Australia 1 1 0 +4 4
South Korea 1 1 0 +1 4
Bahrain 1 0 1 +2 3
India 0 0 2 −7 0
Now MT ... try and be sensible at least. Since when is a draw a good result? The problem Australia has is that the A League is producing poo. From what I can see Australian soccer is still living off the "Old Soccer" developed players. Complete and utter joke is New Football. ;D
As long as we pick up points and qualify from the group who cares how we do it. In football of any kind only results matter. You want to be peaking in the knockout stage of the tournament when winning individual matches count.
Don't worry Ramps, you old NSL fans can reminisce about winning the 2000 Oceania Nations Cup in front of 300 people or beating that Soccer powerhouse Tahiti in 1980 and 1996 while failing to qualify for any World Cup over 27 years ;) ;D.
Or we can reminisce how South played at the Maracana infront of 80,000 people :thumbsup
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Socceroos play Iraq in the Quarter Finals
Australia vs Iraq
Japan vs Qatar
Uzbekistan vs Jordan
Iran vs South Korea
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This is a serious question but does anyone really care about this tournament?
I admit to not being a fan of the "world game" but honestly is anyone really interested
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I am
so much Qatari pussy on show in the stadiums
I SAID GOD DAMN!
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This is a serious question but does anyone really care about this tournament?
I admit to not being a fan of the "world game" but honestly is anyone really interested
It is the Comm Games equivalent of Soccer with all the best Western European and South American countries missing but it is Australia's best chance of winning an international Soccer trophy that involves more than beating up on poor Pacific Island nations as we did when we use to be in Oceania. In Asia at least they care about it - 700 million viewers apparently watch it on TV - http://www.rapidtvnews.com/index.php/201101059624/asian-cup-tv-coverage-expands-around-the-globe.html
There's also a 'revenge' factor amonst Aussie Soccer of winning the tournament hosted by Qatar who won or you could say bought the World Cup hosting rights ahead of us.
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Speaking of revenge, would have loved to have drawn Iran in the 1/4 final
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Harry Kewell gets the Socceroos through with just 3 mins left in extra time :thumbsup
Australia 1 ...... Kewell 117'
Iraq 0
Semi-Finals on Jan 25
Australia vs Uzbekistan
Japan vs South Korea
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Would much rather play the Uzbeks than Japan.
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We've got a 2-nil record over the Uzbeks and they've never scored against us.
Should have put Iraq away so much earlier. We won't get past the Japs or the Chungols if we keep missing that many chances.
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Yep in terms of chances we were all over them but I guess as long as one goes in then that's all that matters. Robbie Slater now has egg on his face after saying Kewell should have retired after the World Cup :wallywink.
Japan hasn't been in imposing form either. They only just got by Qatar. South Korea would be our major threat IMO and we drew with them in the group stage.
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Socceroos won 6-0 :thumbsup.
Aussies now play Japan in the Final on Jan 29 (2am Jan 30 our time)
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Some very quiet NSL fans lately ;D. Good to see too a number of A-leaguers doing well for the Socceroos. One more to go :thumbsup.
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:sleep :sleep :sleep :sleep
:outtahere :outtahere :outtahere
:eyebrow :eyebrow :eyebrow
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:sleep :sleep :sleep :sleep
:outtahere :outtahere :outtahere
:eyebrow :eyebrow :eyebrow
So unpatriotic on Australia Day :wallywink :eyebrow
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0-0 at half-time. The first 25 mins we were on top in general play but it's evened up towards the interval. Oga lucky the ref isn't a strict dill and didn't ping him for handball.
A live stream is here btw:
http://www.fromsport.com/v-0/16/136/v-173634.html
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Still 0-0 after 90 mins. I hope we don't pay for missing chances :-\
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Still 0-0 after 90 mins. I hope we don't pay for missing chances :-\
well we did in the end, didn't we? Why was no one marking that idiot?
:banghead
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Still 0-0 after 90 mins. I hope we don't pay for missing chances :-\
well we did in the end, didn't we? Why was no one marking that effer?
:banghead
Carney was bloody ballwatching in no man's land as his opponent waltzed into the box behind him ::) :banghead. Anyway we only have ourselves to blame. We had a large chunk of the general play and had enough decent chances to score but missed everyone of them. One that got away! :-\
ps. after losing it this is where we say it's a mickey mouse comp. and no one cares about it anyway :wallywink
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ps. after losing it this is where we say it's a mickey mouse comp. and no one cares about it anyway :wallywink
You know it's just a mickey mouse comp and I for one thinks no one cares anyway :rollin
:outtahere :outtahere :outtahere
:yep :yep :yep
:jump :jump
:eyebrow :eyebrow :eyebrow
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Still 0-0 after 90 mins. I hope we don't pay for missing chances :-\
well we did in the end, didn't we? Why was no one marking that effer?
:banghead
Carney was bloody ballwatching in no man's land as his opponent waltzed into the box behind him ::) :banghead. Anyway we only have ourselves to blame. We had a large chunk of the general play and had enough decent chances to score but missed everyone of them. One that got away! :-\
ps. after losing it this is where we say it's a mickey mouse comp. and no one cares about it anyway :wallywink
Spot on. Carney got his head stuck in a jar as a child. And who let him take that last free kick? stuffing :wallywink
Should have had that game iced well before extra time, be nice if we could unearth a few genuine strikers.
Ahh well, another chapter in the growing Jap-Oz rivalry.
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Big V needs to start breeding. we are stuffed when Harold and Cahill are gone
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Still 0-0 after 90 mins. I hope we don't pay for missing chances :-\
well we did in the end, didn't we? Why was no one marking that effer?
:banghead
Carney was bloody ballwatching in no man's land as his opponent waltzed into the box behind him ::) :banghead. Anyway we only have ourselves to blame. We had a large chunk of the general play and had enough decent chances to score but missed everyone of them. One that got away! :-\
ps. after losing it this is where we say it's a mickey mouse comp. and no one cares about it anyway :wallywink
Spot on. Carney got his head stuck in a jar as a child. And who let him take that last free kick? effing :wallywink
Should have had that game iced well before extra time, be nice if we could unearth a few genuine strikers.
Ahh well, another chapter in the growing Jap-Oz rivalry.
..which started in 1941 :outtahere
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Another Failure from the FFA - What a surprise!
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:sleep
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Another Failure from the FFA - What a surprise!
South win it did they?
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South always wins when the FFA loses ;D
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South always wins when the FFA loses ;D
who are they playing this week? Green Gully?
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anybody got any rough idea's on where to find a stream for tonight's friendly against germany?
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anybody got any rough idea's on where to find a stream for tonight's friendly against germany?
No but I'll be watching it on foxtel if I get up early enough. :thumbsup
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anybody got any rough idea's on where to find a stream for tonight's friendly against germany?
No but I'll be watching it on foxtel if I get up early enough. :thumbsup
Thanks for rubbing it in tucker lol.
Be interesting to see how we go apparently the Germans haven't got there best line up in so we are in with a chance.
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anybody got any rough idea's on where to find a stream for tonight's friendly against germany?
No but I'll be watching it on foxtel if I get up early enough. :thumbsup
Thanks for rubbing it in tucker lol.
Be interesting to see how we go apparently the Germans haven't got there best line up in so we are in with a chance.
No worries pal. :lol
I think friendlies are a chance to experiment with game tactics and players and therefore I give the Aussies a glimmer of hope tonight also. On the flip side lets not forget a second string German line up would still trouble alot of nations best sides let alone one that's missing its best player in Tim Cahill IMHO.
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anybody got any rough idea's on where to find a stream for tonight's friendly against germany?
Try the video links for our game at:
http://eplstreaming.com/channel-1/
The game starts at 5.45am EST so try around 4.30am onwards to see if the stream links are available.
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Didn't end up getting up to watch it.
Seen the highlights on the news just before. What a win. coming back from 1-0 at half time. Sounds like we didn't play that well in the first half either so to bounce back and get a win is great.
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Didn't end up getting up to watch it.
Seen the highlights on the news just before. What a win. coming back from 1-0 at half time. Sounds like we didn't play that well in the first half either so to bounce back and get a win is great.
We were bombing the long ball forward too much again in the first half and were gifting the Germans the ball. In second half we maintained possession more. Nice through ball split the German defence for our first goal before Harry was brought down in the box to nail the win :thumbsup.
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great job by the Socceroos in the second half. it doesn't erase Durban from the memory, but at least it restores a little bit of pride.
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Friendlies nowadays are experiments for coaches to play for the most part players who are on the fringes.
Last nights game was more important to the Socceroos than it was for Germany as 9 players in the German first
11 were different from the game in Durban last year.
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yeah but ze germans had only lost like 2 of their last 30 games including friendlies despite "experimenting" - and it was on their home soil
good win :thumbsup
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Nice to win but when ze Germans are in the semis of the World Cup again in 2014 and the Ossies aren't I don't think Wednesday mornings game in Germany will be in the forefront of our minds or ze Germans minds. :thumbsup
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There probably not that fussed that they lost but who cares what they think. Im just proud of how the team came back from a terrible first half to win in the 2nd half. When things get tough in the future the team can always look back upon this game and feel confident that it can be done.
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Friendly against Serbia tonight. Wonder how we'll go.
Fingers crossed this live stream site works that I found on google.
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Friendly against Serbia tonight. Wonder how we'll go.
Fingers crossed this live stream site works that I found on google.
Aussies had one very close chance but Serbia had the better of the first half especially in midfield. Showing more classy one-touch play than us. However them having just one up front is helping us defensively. 0-0 at the start of the second half.
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spewing i missed the first half I thought the game started at 8.30. The stream worked so Im getting to watch the 2nd half. We've had our chances. They've also had some though.
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Finished 0-0. A fair final score. The Serbs love having long range shots don't they. There were a couple of close misses but it really wasn't a major threat.
I loved this bit with Trimboli on the ABC radio broadcast:
Commentator 1: Serbia controlling the game around mid-pitch.
Trimboli: When did mid-pitch come on for Serbia?
:lol
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Serbia had the better chances. Federici made some good saves.
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2014 World Cup draw for the Asian qualifiers was released today. Socceroos will play Saudi Arabia, Oman and Thailand in the Third Round.
2014 FIFA World Cup Asian Qualifiers Third Round - Match Schedule
Group D:
Friday 2 September,2011 Australia v Thailand
Tuesday 6 September,2011 Saudi Arabia v Australia
Tuesday 11 October, 2011 Australia v Oman
Friday 11 November,2011 Oman v Australia
Tuesday 15 November,2011 Thailand v Australia
Wednesday 29 February,2012 Australia v Saudi Arabia
Group A - China, Jordan, Iraq, Singapore
Group B - South Korea, Kuwait, United Arab Emirates, Lebanon
Group C - Japan, Uzbekistan, Syria, North Korea
Group E - Iran, Qatar, Bahrain, Indonesia
http://au.fourfourtwo.com/news/210626,australias-world-cup-group-announced.aspx
Edit: For those interested the European WC qualifying groups are listed in the link below. England is in a pretty easy group.
http://au.fourfourtwo.com/news/210627,spain-to-face-france-in-wcq.aspx
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Soccer is poo.
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Kewell didn't make the squad for the friendly against Wales due to lack of fitness.
Victory has now gave him an ultimatum to sign by tomorrow or no deal.
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He won't be playing for the Victory.
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Kewell didn't make the squad for the friendly against Wales due to lack of fitness.
Victory has now gave him an ultimatum to sign by tomorrow or no deal.
Kewell's now been given to Monday to decide. The Victory have been more than fair enough to Harry. The new A-league season starts in two months and there'll be preseason games before that so they need to settle on their full squad now.
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The Socceroos were very lucky to get a win tonight in the first WC qualifier. Thailand almost got away with a draw before we pinched it. Aussies had 50 entries into the penalty box for just two scrappy goals which means the forward 1/3 play was ordinary and too predictable to say the least.
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The Thailand game must have been needed to blow out the cobwebs as the Aussies cruised past Saudi Arabia and should now easily make the final round in the Asian qualifiers. The only issue is it doesn't seem we can play Kennedy and Cahill in the same forward line.
W D L GD Pts
Australia 2 - - +3 6
Thailand 1 - 1 +2 3
Saudi A. - 1 1 -2 1
Oman - 1 1 -3 1
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FT here at Canberra Stadium. Socceroos 5 Malaysia 0. Brace for Brosque and Kennedy and a goal to Wilkshire.
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Socceroos are cruising to the 4th and final round of the WC qualifiers.
Australia 3 ............ Goals to Holman, Kennedy and Jedinak.
Oman 0
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Not pretty but the Socceroos beat Thailand 1-0 tonight thanks again to Brett Holman and are now through to the final group stage of the 2014 World Cup qualifiers.
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Not pretty but the Socceroos beat Thailand 1-0 tonight thanks again to Brett Holman and are now through to the final group stage of the 2014 World Cup qualifiers.
We was very luck Thailand should of won to be honest. They missed some pretty simple opportunities to goal.
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Not pretty but the Socceroos beat Thailand 1-0 tonight thanks again to Brett Holman and are now through to the final group stage of the 2014 World Cup qualifiers.
We was very luck Thailand should of won to be honest. They missed some pretty simple opportunities to goal.
Yep Sukha missed a sitter 1-on-1 with Schwarzer. The last two games we've played like a side that's just going through the motions knowing it wouldn't take much to qualify top of the group. We won't get away with playing like that against the top Asian countries such as Japan and South Korea in the final group stage.
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Not pretty but the Socceroos beat Thailand 1-0 tonight thanks again to Brett Holman and are now through to the final group stage of the 2014 World Cup qualifiers.
We was very luck Thailand should of won to be honest. They missed some pretty simple opportunities to goal.
Yep Sukha missed a sitter 1-on-1 with Schwarzer. The last two games we've played like a side that's just going through the motions knowing it wouldn't take much to qualify top of the group. We won't get away with playing like that against the top Asian countries such as Japan and South Korea in the final group stage.
We couldnt get away with it against Oman and we shouldn't of got away with it tonight.
If we play like that against the Saudi's I think we'll lose by more then 1 - 0
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Not pretty but the Socceroos beat Thailand 1-0 tonight thanks again to Brett Holman and are now through to the final group stage of the 2014 World Cup qualifiers.
We was very luck Thailand should of won to be honest. They missed some pretty simple opportunities to goal.
Too true, the ping pong balls were hard to shoot accurately with a bit of breeze around.
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The Socceroos came from behind to win 4-2 last night to easily finish top of their 3rd round Asian group and in the process knock Saudi Arabia out of the World Cup qualifiers.
So through to the final round of Asian WC qualifiers are Australia, Japan, South Korea, Iran, Iraq, Jordan, Lebanon, Oman, Qatar and Uzbekistan.
The 10 teams will be split into two groups of 5 with the eventually top two from each group qualifying automatically for the 2014 World Cup while the two 3rd placed teams playoff for the right to play the 5th placed South American team for the last qualifying spot.
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What is Archie Thompson doing back in the squad
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Not pretty but the Socceroos beat Thailand 1-0 tonight thanks again to Brett Holman and are now through to the final group stage of the 2014 World Cup qualifiers.
We was very luck Thailand should of won to be honest. They missed some pretty simple opportunities to goal.
Too true, the ping pong balls were hard to shoot accurately with a bit of breeze around.
:clapping
didn't get the credit it deserved
What is Archie Thompson doing back in the squad
to prove he isn't a dud that can only handle NSL level soccer, wait what?
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The fourth and final Asian WC groups have been announced tonight. Australia is top seed in group B.
Group A Group B
South Korea Australia
Iran Japan
Uzbekistan Iraq
Qatar Jordan
Lebanon Oman
2014 FIFA World Cup Asian Qualifiers – Fourth Round fixtures
Sunday, 3 June 2012 Australia - Bye
Friday, 8 June 2012 Oman v Australia
Tuesday, 12 June 2012 Australia v Japan
Tuesday, 11 Sept 2012 Jordan v Australia
Tuesday, 16 Oct 2012 Iraq v Australia
Wednesday, 14 Nov 2012 Australia - Bye
Tuesday, 26 March 2013 Australia v Oman
Tuesday, 4 June 2013 Japan v Australia
Tuesday, 11 June 2013 Australia v Jordan
Tuesday, 18 June 2013 Australia v Iraq
The top two in each group automatically qualify for the 2014 World Cup. The two third place sides play-off to meet the 5th best South American side in a two-legged play-off for the final WC qualifying spot.
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Don't forget our world cup qualifier tonight at 11pm(fox sports) against Oman.
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Don't forget our world cup qualifier tonight at 11pm(fox sports) against Oman.
Finished 0-0. Playing in 40 degree heat didn't help.
Socceroos play Japan next on Tuesday at Suncorp in Brisbane.
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Don't forget our world cup qualifier tonight at 11pm(fox sports) against Oman.
Finished 0-0. Playing in 40 degree heat didn't help.
Socceroos play Japan next on Tuesday at Suncorp in Brisbane.
Thanks to Schwarzer we got the draw.
Hopefully we can recover and be prepared for Japan because they are in good form and we will need to be at top of our game.
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Not much turnaround time to recover for Brisbane. Japan will be ready. Australia need to win otherwise Japan have virtually taken the first World Cup Qualification place from the group.
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I actually think Japan will win this game.
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We are ass. Love Schwarzy though. Reckon he will still be our keeper if we make it to the next world cup. Federcci goes well too
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0-0 at half-time.
We did fairly well in that first half although Japan were gaining the momentum towards the end. The concern which has the been the case throughout these qualifiers is can we actually finish off our chances and score a goal. Bresc going off early hurts our creativity as he's been in good form since returning to the Socceroos.
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Milligan red card (two yellows). Good luck getting the 3 points now :-\
You can watch it on the web here btw: http://www.insidearena.com/channel3.html
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Now 1-0 down forget it. All over. Socceroos have to qualify in second spot now.
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Penalty to Australia.
Wilkshire makes it 1-1.
This ref. has no idea btw.
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How that was a penalty no idea but Wilkshire scores. Luckiest of lucky breaks for the Socceroos 1-1.
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The only way we looked like scoring. This referee has stuffed up big time three times in 10 minutes. Milligan's 2nd yellow was ridiculously harsh; 99 times out of a 100 that wasn't a penalty; handball against the Japanese player who was on a yellow already missed.
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Sheesh Ogga hits the post. Almost the winner there.
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Ref calls full time just as Japan we're ready to take a free kick just outside the Aussie area. :help
1-1 draw Japan certain to finish top of the group.
Socceroos to qualify for the 2014 World Cup in Brazil in second place from the group.
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Just when you think Aussie Rules is umpired poorly you cop that idiot of a referee in Soccer. You'd swear he was hoping for a draw. Guess who won't be asked to referee at the World Cup :nope.
We'll mostly likely be in third spot after Iraq plays Oman tonight. The games against Iraq will determine if we get second spot. We play them and Jordan away in the next two games later this year. It's still a concern we haven't scored from general play in the last few games. Mind you we didn't have Kewell, Kennedy, Holman or Emerton tonight and Bresciano went off injured early.
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First 20 minutes we played great. Nearly got a goal if that Japanese player didnt raise his leg and stop it.
The ref seemed to of gave us that penalty because he stuffed up on the red card call.
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Group B table
Pl Pts F/A
Japan 3 7 10-1 (+9)
Iraq 2 2 2-2 (0)
Australia 2 2 1-1 (0)
Oman 3 2 1-4 (-3)
Jordan 2 1 1-7 (-6)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2014_FIFA_World_Cup_qualification_%E2%80%93_AFC_Fourth_Round#Group_B
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Ref was an absolute broccoli last night.
Both red cards were a mistake, the penalty was a mistake, missed a clear penalty, and then blows the whistle when the japs are lining up a free kick.
My god this confederate is filled with sun dried mutants.
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Ref was an absolute broccoli last night.
Both red cards were a mistake, the penalty was a mistake, missed a clear penalty, and then blows the whistle when the japs are lining up a free kick.
My god this confederate is filled with sun dried mutants.
That's what you get when you bring refs who ref in nothing leagues in the Middle East and the third world. They then get selected to ref in a world cup qualifier and can't handle the pressure.
They aren't even worthy orange peelers for the fourth officials.
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SOME OF the officiating at the Euros hasnt been much better to be honest but this bloke wouldnt referee games at VPL level in Australia.
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yeah but apparently he has an unlimited fuel card
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Socceroos beaten 1-2 by Jordan :P. A soft (dodgy) penalty to them following by the Aussies being caught on the counter while pushing for the equalizer. Archie got the consolation goal with 5 mins to go.
Group B table
Pl Pts F/A
Japan 4 10 11-1 (+10)
Jordan 3 4 3-8 (-5)
Australia 3 2 2-3 (-1)
Iraq 3 2 2-3 (-1)
Oman 3 2 1-4 (-3)
Socceroos are next away to Iraq in Doha (Qatar) on Oct 16.
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This is New Football. Its Football but not as you know it :lol
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Recent efforts are ones we haven't seen from the Socceroos since the bad old days of the NSL :yep. This morning was a game that gets a coach sacked. We look very slow, lacked cohesion and we lobbed lots of old school long balls that are easy to defend against in the modern game. We are also struggling to score which keeps the opposition in games and makes us prone to losing from a sucker punch counterattack goal. It was actually the older blokes who were most disappointing this morning. Age has caught up with them. Cahill sadly is shadow of his old self. The only Aussie that looked dangerous was Robbie Kruse down the attacking left side.
The next game against Iraq is massive. Another loss could pretty much end any real chance of qualifying as the only direct qualifying spot left is 2nd place in group with Japan having top spot pretty much sewn up. Finishing 3rd in the group would mean we would eventually have to play a South American country in a home/away play-off like the old days which on current form we'd definitely lose.
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LMAO at Thompson being our best player :lol
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Transition phase and nobody of any real quality coming through atm.
We can't live on the 2006 campaign for ever.
Socceroos will be lucky to make the World Cup. Iraq has been their bogie team.
Will be a real uphill struggle for automatic qualification given they still have to travel to Japan.
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I think well still qualify (just) as from memory we have mainly home games now. But with the current quality of players we have are likely to get our throats cut at the World Cup.
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Check the clip out on the website
http://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/more-sport/grenade-explodes-on-soccer-pitch/story-e6frfglf-1226478677318
Riots with flairs and fireworks aren't unusual at a soccer match, but what happens in the video above takes hooliganism to a whole new level.
The explosive detonated during a peaceful Asian Champions League game between Iran team Sepahan and Saudi Arabian club Al Ahli.
A Sepahan midfielder can be seen picking up the explosive and then throws it to the sideline. The moment it hits the ground it explodes causing players to retreat to the middle of the pitch while smoke rises from the ground.
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Check the clip out on the website
http://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/more-sport/grenade-explodes-on-soccer-pitch/story-e6frfglf-1226478677318
Riots with flairs and fireworks aren't unusual at a soccer match, but what happens in the video above takes hooliganism to a whole new level.
The explosive detonated during a peaceful Asian Champions League game between Iran team Sepahan and Saudi Arabian club Al Ahli.
A Sepahan midfielder can be seen picking up the explosive and then throws it to the sideline. The moment it hits the ground it explodes causing players to retreat to the middle of the pitch while smoke rises from the ground.
Madness :help
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A(nother) poor game from the Socceroos saved by the last 10 minutes get out of jail effort. Luckily Iraq were/are terrible. Only Cahill and Kruse looked a class above while Oar and Archie did their bit as late subs. Anyway the win should see the Socceroos eventually qualify directly in 2nd spot in our group as we have 3 of the last 4 qualifiers at home.
Group B table
Pl Pts F/A
Japan 4 10 11-1 (+10)
Australia 4 5 4-4 (0)
Oman 4 5 3-5 (-2)
Jordan 4 4 4-10 (-6)
Iraq 4 2 3-5 (-2)
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Just a friendly but the Socceroos tonight won in South Korea for the first time in 40 years and with a younger squad too so a good effort.
AUSTRALIA 2 .... Nikita Rukavytsya 44th, Robert Cornthwaite 89th)
SOUTH KOREA 1 ..... 12th min
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MT who scored for South Korea? Full Car Park? ;D
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bit early i know but is anyone heading over to Brazil?
Last chance for me until i extend the family further, and lets face it who wants to go to russia or the middle east WCups.
Not a keen lover of Soccer but just wont have the same effect if Australia dont make it.
For guys in the know how many more matches left to play. I hear the Jordon game may clinch it.
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Reckon I will. Brazil is going to be insane
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wont you guys miss out on the AFL finals series if you go?
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Nah she's on before finals kicks off. We'll just miss Dan Jackson shanking kicks everywhere but still remaining the in the 22 week after week.
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you'd bail out on jacko just like that?
what would you do if jacko kicked the winning goal in a grand final for us one day?
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Only in Bojangles17's fantasy world does Dan Jackson ever kick the winning goal in a GF
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bit early i know but is anyone heading over to Brazil?
Last chance for me until i extend the family further, and lets face it who wants to go to russia or the middle east WCups.
Not a keen lover of Soccer but just wont have the same effect if Australia dont make it.
For guys in the know how many more matches left to play. I hear the Jordon game may clinch it.
There are four qualifiers left to go in this round of qualifying with three of them home games for the Socceroos. If the Aussies finish in the top 2 of their group then they earn an automatic qualifying spot and are off to Brazil in 2014.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2014_FIFA_World_Cup_qualification_%E2%80%93_AFC_Fourth_Round#Group_B
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bit early i know but is anyone heading over to Brazil?
Last chance for me until i extend the family further, and lets face it who wants to go to russia or the middle east WCups.
Not a keen lover of Soccer but just wont have the same effect if Australia dont make it.
For guys in the know how many more matches left to play. I hear the Jordon game may clinch it.
Aye buy u a beer there princess.
Reckon it'd stiil be worth it if aust don't make it
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The Times fell for the hoax story about a dream league put together before the Qatar world cup but it would be cool if there was such a league.
Britain's Times newspaper has launched a spirited defence of its story that Qatar is to launch a "Dream Football League" after a French website said the scoop was based on its own and that the paper had been the victim of a hoax.
The Qatar Football Association denied having any involvement in such a league.
Les Cahiers du Football (www.cahiersdufootball.net) said it published the fake report by "Agence Transe Presse" on Monday, saying that 2022 World Cup hosts Qatar would launch the money-spinning league involving Europe's leading clubs by 2015.
The website's report contained quotes from Bonnie Pascal-Fasse - for French readers an obvious play on words on French political scientist Pascal Boniface - saying that soccer was not just "a diplomatic tool" but an "end in itself".
"It all came out of my imagination," Jerome Latta, the editor of Les Cahiers du Football told Reuters. "But the fact that it made its way to the mainstream press is quite significant."
The Qatar Football Association also issued a statement saying: "With regard to the story published in today's edition of The Times newspaper concerning a 'Dreams Football League,' the Qatar Football Association and other Qatari football entities can categorically confirm that we have no involvement in any such initiative and has heard nothing to suggest such a concept is genuine."
The supposed 24-team league, featuring 16 permanent sides including Manchester United, Manchester City, Arsenal and Paris St Germain as well as eight "invitees", would be played in Qatar, Saudi Arabia, Bahrain and United Arab Emirates.
The ssissy French website report said players, who would earn three to four times what they currently earn, would live on artificial peninsulas where "laws and morals of the continent" would not exist.
It also said that the games would be visible by hologram in the "local stadiums" in Europe, adding that the roars of fans sitting at Old Trafford would be heard in the Gulf stadium where a United game would be played - this being possible as of 2016 thanks to the "Qatar Technologies Institute".
http://asia.eurosport.com/football/times-defends-qatar-dream-league-story-after-media-storm_sto3664757/story.shtml
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I've heard FIFA are considering allowing Qatar to host the 2022 World Cup in the northern hemisphere winter to avoid the 40-50 degree temperatures of the Qatari summer. Not only would that mean all the major European leagues would have to take a at least month long midseason break but it's totally unfair on the other countries like Australia who all bid based on the World Cup only being allowed to be held during the European summer. We wouldn't have had to go through all the footy codes fighting over stadia if we were allowed the flexibility to host it sometime between October and March.
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I've heard FIFA are considering allowing Qatar to host the 2022 World Cup in the northern hemisphere winter to avoid the 40-50 degree temperatures of the Qatari summer. Not only would that mean all the major European leagues would have to take a at least month long midseason break but it's totally unfair on the other countries like Australia who all bid based on the World Cup only being allowed to be held during the European summer. We wouldn't have had to go through all the footy codes fighting over stadia if we were allowed the flexibility to host it sometime between October and March.
I don't think AFL arguing over stadium availabilities is what costed us our bid for the WC.
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Agree. When you are a country that plays in competitions alongside the likes of Guam and Chinese Taipei and can't beat world superpowers like Jordan and Oman then you start to get the picture about where we sit in FIFA's thought process ie is that a clump of toilet paper stuck in my ass hairs or is that a dangleberry, no matter i'll wash it off later ::)
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world cup qualifier against Oman is live on sbs tomorrow(Tues) night.
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Good bloke is Omar.
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Going to the game tonight and living it up in a corporate box thanks to an invite from a company I deal with. :thumbsup
Must win game for the Socceroos.
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I'll be there too, sans collared shirt and free pee
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I'll be there too, sans collared shirt and free pee
Yeah gerks I'll have to keep up appearances and don the Monkey suit. Hope its a good night for us all. :thumbsup
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I just tuned in 11 minutes into the game and Oman already 0 -1 up.
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I just tuned in 11 minutes into the game and Oman already 0 -1 up.
Are you sure it's live on SBS :huh
Following the scores on twitter and they were saying 15 odd minutes ago it was nearly half time?
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Not live on SBS
Fox Sports Live
2/1 now
Cahill scored
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Not live on SBS
Fox Sports Live
2/1 now
Cahill scored
Oman's 2nd was an "own goal" I believe :o
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Yep
Pathetic
30 mins to decide if they want to go to Brazil.
Tough games to come against Iran, Japan if they lose
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Yep
Pathetic
30 mins to decide if they want to go to Brazil.
Tough games to come against Iran, Japan if they lose
As you know I don't follow the soccer
So if they lose tonight they are out or does it just mean it becomes harderto qualify?
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Poot
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Just scored their 2nd goal
Holimann Holman
2–2 all
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Yep
Pathetic
30 mins to decide if they want to go to Brazil.
Tough games to come against Iran, Japan if they lose
As you know I don't follow the soccer
So if they lose tonight they are out or does it just mean it becomes harderto qualify?
You follow it as much as me but yes makes it hard
3 games left
Japan away
Jordan/Iran home
Japan are through which means Aust will fight out the last spot with Oman and Jordan. All 3 are very close on points with 3 games left.
Will go down to the wire if they make it
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Also WP forgot to mention if they don't make the top 2, they will fight for qualification against 5th best Sth American team, like Uruguay those years back.
Another tough ask.
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Thanks daniel :thumbsup
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disgraceful performance almost as bad as the greek performance against bosnia. neither australia or greece deserve to go to the world cup. not good enough to go and nowhere near it ability wise.
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I just tuned in 11 minutes into the game and Oman already 0 -1 up.
Are you sure it's live on SBS :huh
Following the scores on twitter and they were saying 15 odd minutes ago it was nearly half time?
I thought it said it was live on the tv ad for it. If it's not live sorry my mistake in saying it was.
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Just got back, good night out.
Soft first goal to Oman on the counter with their first real taste of possession, before and after that it was all Australia.
The own goal and their keeper (who plays in the EPL) kept the scoreline respectable for them, coulda shoulda been about 5-1. Watched Timmy in the warm-up nail header after header from crosses, they say practice makes perfect, well there's only 1 Timmy Cahill and we are screwed when he hangs them up, if we are not already. Any defence worth their salt encrusted sacks wouldn't have let him get anywhere near half of the chances he had tonight.
Brosque and Archie Thompson are useless baps, Brecia is well past it, thank poo he got injured and got subbed off after coming on as a sub himself.
The time wasting by these sand greasers and the racism of the refs towards us poor ethnic hotpots down here in the ass hole of the world is a stuffing disgrace. It's tough enough trying to play a girl's game that goes entirely against our national identity with the dregs of our athletic talent without having to put up with that poo.
Still have a game in hand on the rest of the group but we're now a bee's prick away from missing out on Brazil. I for one do not want to miss out on the barbeque meats and brown cha chas on offer over there.
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In the other game in our group, Jordan beat Japan, so the Aussies are now third.
Group B
Japan 6 4 1 1 14 4 +10 13
Jordan 6 2 1 3 6 12 −6 7
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Australia 5 1 3 1 6 6 0 6
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Oman 6 1 3 2 6 9 −3 6
Iraq 5 1 2 2 4 5 −1 5
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Just got back, good night out.
Soft first goal to Oman on the counter with their first real taste of possession, before and after that it was all Australia.
The own goal and their keeper (who plays in the EPL) kept the scoreline respectable for them, coulda shoulda been about 5-1. Watched Timmy in the warm-up nail header after header from crosses, they say practice makes perfect, well there's only 1 Timmy Cahill and we are screwed when he hangs them up, if we are not already. Any defence worth their salt encrusted sacks wouldn't have let him get anywhere near half of the chances he had tonight.
Brosque and Archie Thompson are useless baps, Brecia is well past it, thank poo he got injured and got subbed off after coming on as a sub himself.
The time wasting by these sand greasers and the racism of the refs towards us poor ethnic hotpots down here in the ass hole of the world is a stuffing disgrace. It's tough enough trying to play a girl's game that goes entirely against our national identity with the dregs of our athletic talent without having to put up with that poo.
Still have a game in hand on the rest of the group but we're now a bee's prick away from missing out on Brazil. I for one do not want to miss out on the barbeque meats and brown cha chas on offer over there.
Wasn't a fan of Pim but had to laugh when he said Archie Thompson was pretty much worthless. That was one thing he got right. Embarrassing how he is somehow getting a game
disgraceful performance almost as bad as the greek performance against bosnia. neither australia or greece deserve to go to the world cup. not good enough to go and nowhere near it ability wise.
Who the stuff cares about Greece?
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Also WP forgot to mention if they don't make the top 2, they will fight for qualification against 5th best Sth American team, like Uruguay those years back.
Another tough ask.
The two teams who finish third in each Asian group go into a two legged home and away play off against each other for the right to play the winner from yep South America. Ouch. :help
Currently Australia are 3rd in their group as are Iran.
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I hear Tehran is nice in the autumn
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The Socceroos need to qualify automatically by finishing in the top 2 if they want to qualify for the World Cup. The current team wouldn't win a two-legged play-off against a South American side.
Holger's formation for a home qualifer was terribly negative with two holding defensive mids. As a result the Socceroos transition from defence to attack was way too slow, wide and 'safe'. It wasn't until late in the game when Oman tired and their two rows of 4 (back 4 + mids) started to break down and open up that the Socceroos were able to break the lines and finally look dangerous near goal. By then though it was too late thanks to a first half that was simply embarrassing and schoolboyish. The worst part was the Oman players looked to have better technical skills when on he ball compared to the Aussies.
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We need to draw tonight against Japan in the WC qualifier. If we don't we have to win the next 2 remaining games. In case Jordan wins against Omen.
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0 - 0 at half time. We've had some chances on the counter attack. Our defense has held up well and got back in numbers.
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Socceroos 1-0 5 minutes to go. :clapping
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Japan equalize with a stoppage time penalty. 1-1.
Still a great result for Australia at this stage.
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Hand ball penalty to Japan and Honda scores it. 1 -1 :banghead
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Japan equalize with a stoppage time penalty. 1-1.
Still a great result for Australia at this stage.
Going into the game a draw is all I was hoping for but we should of won being a goal up just before extra time.
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Japan played very well and the Socceroos were very disciplined.
Would have been nice to get the win but over the balance of play a draw was a fair result.
Still need to win our last two home games to qualify. Lets hope we do. :thumbsup
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Really lucky they didn't score earlier.
Can we make it if we draw one of the next 2 Tucker?
Need to win Tuesday
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Really lucky they didn't score earlier.
Can we make it if we draw one of the next 2 Tucker?
Need to win Tuesday
Mathematically yes, but we will be cutting a really fine line.
Playing Jordan and Iraq in our last two. Currently are in second spot. Not taking into account the other game that is happening tonight between Iraq and Oman. Hopefully they draw.
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Just got back, good night out.
Soft first goal to Oman on the counter with their first real taste of possession, before and after that it was all Australia.
The own goal and their keeper (who plays in the EPL) kept the scoreline respectable for them, coulda shoulda been about 5-1. Watched Timmy in the warm-up nail header after header from crosses, they say practice makes perfect, well there's only 1 Timmy Cahill and we are screwed when he hangs them up, if we are not already. Any defence worth their salt encrusted sacks wouldn't have let him get anywhere near half of the chances he had tonight.
Brosque and Archie Thompson are useless baps, Brecia is well past it, thank poo he got injured and got subbed off after coming on as a sub himself.
The time wasting by these sand greasers and the racism of the refs towards us poor ethnic hotpots down here in the ass hole of the world is a stuffing disgrace. It's tough enough trying to play a girl's game that goes entirely against our national identity with the dregs of our athletic talent without having to put up with that poo.
Still have a game in hand on the rest of the group but we're now a bee's prick away from missing out on Brazil. I for one do not want to miss out on the barbeque meats and brown cha chas on offer over there.
Sorry for the delay but I just read this.
Very funny. :lol
....anyway on tonight's game why did the idiot handball it with 2 minutes to go.
Japan was clearly the better team but we could've pinched it. :banghead
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Oman beat Iraq in the later game so the Socceroos remain 3rd in their group albeit with a game in hand.
Group B
Pl W D L GF GA GD Pts
Japan 7 4 2 1 15 5 +10 14 ................. Qualified
Oman 7 2 3 2 7 9 −2 9
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Australia 6 1 4 1 7 7 0 7
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Jordan 6 2 1 3 6 12 −6 7
Iraq 6 1 2 3 4 6 −2 5
Remaining games:
Australia vs Jordan
Iraq vs Japan
Australia vs Iraq
Jordan vs Oman
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Bloody hell, if we can't smash the bottom two at home we don't deserve to be in Brazil.
Im expecting easy wins.
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Aussie Customs doing their part ;D.
http://theworldgame.sbs.com.au/news/1155009/Jordan-fuming-after-coach-detained
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Bloody hell, if we can't smash the bottom two at home we don't deserve to be in Brazil.
Im expecting easy wins.
The Aussies lost to Jordan 1-2 in Amman last year. So while we'll be favourites at home, it's no gimme. We defended well against Japan and the team we put out there finally had a good balance but it's still a concern we struggle to create enough proper decent scoring opportunities and that we give away dumb goals when we shouldn't. If it wasn't for Oar's flukey half-cross that floated in we would've went scoreless again. Unlike Japan, Jordan will sit back with numbers behind the ball so the Socceroos will have to break down their defence with quick ball movement while at the same time not stupidly getting caught by a sucker punch on the counter.
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Aussie Customs doing their part ;D.
http://theworldgame.sbs.com.au/news/1155009/Jordan-fuming-after-coach-detained
Looks like a terrorist 8).
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Can we get the job done ? Or will we choke ?
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Good Start. Bresciano makes it 1-0.
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Jordan whinge as much as essendon
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A total and utter one-sided flogging. Aussies win 4-0 :thumbsup.
Robbie Kruse was brilliant and continually just sliced Jordan open with his runs.
Minus a disaster against Iraq who are on the bottom of the group, the Socceroos are off to the World Cup.
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Japan beat Iraq in the later game 1-0. So Iraq can't qualify now which is good news for the Socceroos as this will mean Iraq will have nothing to play for in the final match in Sydney.
Group B
Pl W D L GF GA GD Pts
Japan 8 5 2 1 16 5 +11 17 ................. Qualified
Australia 7 2 4 1 11 7 +4 10
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Oman 7 2 3 2 7 9 −2 9
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Jordan 7 2 1 4 6 16 −10 7
Iraq 7 1 2 4 4 7 −3 5 ................. Eliminated
Remaining games:
Australia vs Iraq ....... in Sydney
Jordan vs Oman ....... in Amman
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Its a must win game tonight. If we lose and Oman wins they can jump us in the group standings.
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0-0 at half-time against a visiting Iraq youth team :P. Holger needs to give the Socceroos a rocket during the break.
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75 mins and still 0-0. Geez we couldn't stuff this up could we?! :-\
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Thank gawd for that. Kennedy makes it 1-0 :thumbsup.
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8)
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The Socceroos are off to Brazil! :woohoo
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Aussie Aussie Aussie!
Still a stupid diving soft co)( game!
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Kennedy scoring would of shutted up Cahill. He wasn't happy when he got subbed.
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Kennedy scoring would of shutted up Cahill. He wasn't happy when he got subbed.
Aye he wasn't but was the first to mob Kennedy when he scored hehe
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Kennedy scoring would of shutted up Cahill. He wasn't happy when he got subbed.
Aye he wasn't but was the first to mob Kennedy when he scored hehe
I'm not having a go at Cahill just saying when he came off it looked like he gave Holger a mouth full.
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A lot of blokes will be sucking up to their mrs now to let them go.
Mine was warned 12 months ago and as soon as flights are available im booking. As long as she can go shopping by herself here in Oz, 'm free to head over with a few lads.
Won't go to Russia, the Middle East. Then who knows after that. Last chance while im in my 30's
Get on it it's a great place Rio. Went for carnival back in 02. Just hope we don't land Sao Paolo
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Holger is a funny man.
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Holger is a funny man.
Haha, called the Iraq team cheats :lol
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Massacre in Brazil.
Soccers version of Melbourne,The Socceroos.
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(https://fbcdn-sphotos-g-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-prn2/992966_593905277308220_302374735_n.jpg)
Says 'Kennedy' on the back :thumbsup
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Kennedy scoring would of shutted up Cahill. He wasn't happy when he got subbed.
Aye he wasn't but was the first to mob Kennedy when he scored hehe
I'm not having a go at Cahill just saying when he came off it looked like he gave Holger a mouth full.
Yeah he did, was pee funny but got to admit I was also thinking wtf u German sauerkraut ;D
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Wasnt Josh Kennedy another product of the old NSL. From memory he was. Maybe one day the A League will produce some players :lol
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Wasnt Josh Kennedy another product of the old NSL. From memory he was. Maybe one day the A League will produce some players :lol
ERM...
Everyone was before 04 u dummy :shh
Yackendander boy I think
Unless the peeed off to england or Croatia as a 11 year old
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Holger is a funny man.
Haha, called the Iraq team cheats :lol
Delivered in that typical humourless no nonsense dialogue synonymous with the deutch :lol
I loved the fact our boys kept playing on throughout their Olympic qualifying for diving. Therir players are waving their hands to kick it out and we'd just keep playing love it. and nothing in the world like an aussie crowd when a diver goes down :clapping
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Holger is a funny man.
Haha, called the Iraq team cheats :lol
Delivered in that typical humourless no nonsense dialogue synonymous with the deutch :lol
I loved the fact our boys kept playing on throughout their Olympic qualifying for diving. Therir players are waving their hands to kick it out and we'd just keep playing love it. and nothing in the world like an aussie crowd when a diver goes down :clapping
I hope we keep it up and the rest of the world realises we'll just keep on playing and not put the ball out. The quickest way to put a stop to the opposition diving :thumbsup.
Btw the countries that have qualified for the World Cup so far are Brazil (host) and Australia, Japan, Iran and South Korea (all from Asia).
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Wasnt Josh Kennedy another product of the old NSL. From memory he was. Maybe one day the A League will produce some players :lol
ERM...
Everyone was before 04 u dummy :shh
Yackendander boy I think
Josh Kennedy is from Wodonga
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Pretty sure he's from yack
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May have played for Wodonga, but lived in Yackandandah
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Pretty sure he's from yack
Err no.... Josh Kennedy was on 3aw last night and when asked he said he was from Wodonga
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Most people don't know yack...
http://www.google.com.au/search?redir_esc=&redir_esc=&hl=en&client=ms-android-telstra-au&source=android-browser-type&v=200400000&qsubts=1371717867352&q=yackandanda%20josh%20kennedy
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Most people don't know yack...
Please, he said he was from Wodonga, said he was Wodonga boy, alot of his family is still there, think we can confidently conclude he is from Wodonga.
He didnt say he was from Yackadandah, which is near Wodonga
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it's a bit like rounding up.
played in wodonga, but from Yackandandah.
easier to say from wodonga as most people have at least heard of it.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joshua_Kennedy#Club_career
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Most people don't know yack...
Please, he said he was Wodonga, said he was Wodonga boy, alot of his family is still there, think we can confidently conclude he is from Wodonga.
He didnt say he was from Yackadandah, which is near Wodonga
Google
Josh and yack see what comes up :shh
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Most people don't know yack...
Please, he said he was Wodonga, said he was Wodonga boy, alot of his family is still there, think we can confidently conclude he is from Wodonga.
He didnt say he was from Yackadandah, which is near Wodonga
Google
Josh and yack see what comes up :shh
I don't need to, Josh Kennedy himself said he was a Wodonga boy that'll do me ;D
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don't be an ostrich, billy
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'donga represent :cheers
The entire tribe still lives there but I haven't been back in yonks. Looked up on Google street view the house my old man grew up in (which was a part of the old Kiewa police station that my pop bought and moved in the 50s or 60s) Baranduda and can't believe it's still there.
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Great story dwaino
All Ma Powell's family is up there, scattered around Albury, Wodonga, Tallangatta, Granya, Howlong and Wymah
We only get up there a couple of times a year to see the rels but I still love going to Granya (Ma Powell's hometown) and seeing the old houses/buildings that are still standing and remembering the stories she'd tell us. They've actually turned the old school into a museum and it has alot of photos of Ma Powell and her family
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Kennedy was born in Wodonga
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I would assume the reason is Yackandandah Bush Nursing Hospital Obstetrics unit is was not quite state of the art during the period of the great mans birth.
I would wager both the conception and child hood of josh Kennedy was in yack.
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Most people don't know yack...
Please, he said he was Wodonga, said he was Wodonga boy, alot of his family is still there, think we can confidently conclude he is from Wodonga.
He didnt say he was from Yackadandah, which is near Wodonga
Google
Josh and yack see what comes up :shh
Joshy is a Yack man, played against him in juniors
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Is he the son of john Kennedy who was coach at Heidelberg united?
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HISTORY-maker Daniel De Silva proved Australia's inspiration as the Young Socceroos opened their U20 World Cup account with a promising 1-1 draw with Colombia.
In a bright night for Australian football, the 16-year-old Perth Glory midfielder was outstanding throughout and scored just after half time although Australia was a denied three points by Jhon Cordoba's 78th minute equaliser.
The youngest player in the tournament, De Silva also overtook Craig Moore as Australia's youngest U20 World Cup debutant, almost a year younger than when the defender featured in the 1993 tournament.
But he settled in a heartbeat, starring in the attacking midfield role with Australia unlucky not to take all three points at Trabzon's Huseyin Avni Aker Stadium.
Coach Paul Okon heaped praise on De Silva and the team but was lamenting the fact the Young Socceroos didn't clinch three points.
"When you think he (De Silva) is 16 and giving four years away it's crazy. If he scored a second goal (he missed a chance at 1-0) I'd love him even more," Okon said.
"Everyone performed and we spoke about that. We said if anyone wasn't up for it's going to make it hard but everyone played their role.
"The message since we came here was if we play the way we believe we'll have a good chance of winning any game against any opposition.
"Maybe it was a fair result in the end but we had two very good chances at 1-0 so disappointed with that but the performance was extraordinary and we hope we can reach that level again for the next two games."
Starting with nine A-League players, the Young Socceroos were outstanding for much of the game and finished with 52 per cent possession against the South American champions.
Australia had the first genuine chance of the game but Josh Brillante toe-poked wide after 16 minutes after a brilliant build up that included De Silva and Adam Taggart.
Two minutes later Connor Pain looked set to score when he attacked Brillante's inch-perfect cross only to be put off by Helibelton Palacios' last-ditch challenge.
But led by the immensely talented attacker Juan Quintero, Colombia was always a scoring threat but keeper Paul Izzo stood firm with his best save coming in the 39th minute when he tipped his free kick over the bar.
But a minute after the re-start Andrew Hoole released De Silva with a clever pass in behind the Colombian defence and he chipped keeper Cristian Bonilla who did get a finger on it.
De Silva had a chance to double the lead on 60 minutes after Connor Pain's cross was poorly cleared but he didn't get enough purchase on his strike.
But with Quintero forcing Australia on the back foot he commenced a nice interplay which finished with Cordoba's control and shot from inside the area.
The Young Socceroos will now fancy their chances against El Salvador on Wednesday morning after they lost 3-0 to hosts Turkey.
AUSTRALIA 1 (De Silva 46min) v COLOMBIA 1 (Cordoba 78min)
Crowd: About 2000 at Huseyin Avni Aker Stadium, Trabzon
AUSTRALIA (4-2-3-1): Izzo; Geria, Chapman, Good, Galloway; Irvine, Brillante; Hoole, De Silva (Maclaren 91min), Pain (Williams 82min); Taggart (Gameiro 71min).
Coach: Paul Okon
COLOMBIA (4-2-3-1): Bonilla; Palacios, Aguilar, Vergara, Correa (Perea 64min); Leudo (Mojica 59min), Perez; Renteria (Mena 73min), Quintero, Palomeque; Cordoba.
http://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/sport/young-socceroos-draw-with-colombia/story-fni2flhh-1226668185263
:clapping
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Anyone going from here?
Be good to share info about hotels, tickets etc etc
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Nope
It will be a poo fight, there are huge protests there that are starting to turn violent, safety & corruption is a massive concern, there's even talk they may move the whole thing to the US
+ can't be stuffed flying 40 hours to find my overpriced hotel overbooked leaving me with nowhere to stay, then getting to my seat to find 20 people sitting in it
+ The host cities are too difficult to travel between if you only have a day or two between games
Better off going to Montevideo or Buenos Aires and watching it from there if you want the vibe without the headfuck
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thats true Gerks but il be in the states from early May, so im over that side
family straight home from Miami and away to go meet the fellas there.
i only want to see one Australia game and one game in Rio. If we score some joint like Recife well then il stay in Rio and watch 2 games.
12 night trip max. Private apartments are the way i book these days. Did it in NYC last year and paid peanuts for a big 2 bedroom apt on level 30 direct with the owner. Hotels are a waste of money.
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Might be no world cup.. Brazilians not happy campers.
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bents most Olympics and a few world cups i heard the same thing over and over again. Will never happen.
south africa wasnt going to happen due to crime
Greece olympics wasnt going to happen due to unfinished stadiums.
WC will proceed. Blatter will step in with his dirty money
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IBrFLGNvV7U
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IBrFLGNvV7U
Well that post was relevant to the current discussion Bents. ::) Might as well post this then... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=78gMad9hEkI
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where is the association football thread?
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how come soccer fans insist australia call the sport 'football' yet call the national team the 'socceroos'?
cant have it both ways
fwiw it's soccer in this country and always will be
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Many non Australia fans ie. English regard it as a silly term.
And say Australia n national football team
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Just stick to calling it wogball so there is no confusion. Go Woggeroos.
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Brilliant
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The 'Australian National Football Team'.
Is pretty straight forward.
31 Nigeria 785 -3
32 Japan 765 -2
33 Hungary 759 0
34 Romania 750 0
35 Algeria 737 0
36 Serbia 723 4
37 Venezuela 712 -1
38 Albania 690 5
39 Ukraine 687 -2
40 Korea Republic 666 2
41 Republic of Ireland 659 -2
42 Tunisia 652 -1
43 Panama 649 -5
44 Paraguay 640 0
45 Wales 638 4
46 Bulgaria 628 6
47 Australia 619 0
48 Costa Rica 617 0
49 Jamaica 602 4
49 Zambia 602 -3
51 Burkina Faso 594 -1
52 Honduras 582 -2
53 Bolivia 578 5
54 Turkey 573 -10
55 Slovenia 568 0
56 Slovakia 565 -2
57 New Zealand 551 30
58 Uzbekistan 550 8
59 Central African Republic 543 5
60 South Africa 542 -4
61 Iceland 541 12
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2kwfKRJJhL4
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Give it up Frank. They aren't going to give back the money. The world cup would of been a great event to hold but in hindsight the money would of been better spent on growing not just soccer but all sports at grass root level across Australia.
FFA chief Frank Lowy has demanded that FIFA, world soccer's governing body, pay back the $43 million worth of Australian taxpayer dollars wasted in the futile World Cup bid as questions over the probity and the desirability of staging the competition in Qatar continue to mount.
Australia,with significant government support and funding, staged a lengthy but ultimately pointless campaign to win the right to stage the 2022 renewal of the world's biggest sporting event.
At a controversial meeting of FIFA's executive in Switzerland in December 2010 it was revealed that tiny middle eastern nation Qatar had won the right to host the 2022 World Cup in the northern hemisphere summer - despite the fact that temperatures in the Persian Gulf regularly topped the 40 degree mark at that time of the year.
Australia was one of the first contenders eliminated , having secured only one vote in a campaign built around the fact that FIFA wanted to stage the tournament in the middle of the year.
Read more: http://www.smh.com.au/sport/football/frank-lowy-demands-fifa-to-compensate-for-2022-world-cup-time-shift-20130917-2tx0c.html#ixzz2f9ohrMxS
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A) why shouldn't the FFA get the money back? FIFA has 'changed the goal posts' by moving the WC to the middle of the domestic football season. Its not a realistic scenario. la liga and the EPL are not going to shut for a year.
B) the bid was good idea. A WC in Austria would have made billions at a small outlay (40 odd million bid) and word have changed the changed the sporting landscape in this country forever. A world cup in Australia would grow the sport immeasurable. 50$m was worth the risk.
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Should give it to the States :cheers
Would have done nothing for Aussie Soccer btw
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Would have done nothing for Aussie Soccer btw
Idiot :)
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lol what would it have done?
exposed even more how dog crap our local comp is to joe public?
you don't need the world cup to outdraw the BBL over summer in 12,000 capacity stadiums
waste of money bro
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B) the bid was good idea. A WC in Austria would have made billions at a small outlay (40 odd million bid) and word have changed the changed the sporting landscape in this country forever. A world cup in Australia would grow the sport immeasurable. 50$m was worth the risk.
I think you mean Australia not Austria
And you are correct it would have made billions for the FIFA, not Australian Soccer.
Revenues from Ticket sales & broadcast rights alone go to FIFA not the host country
Yes we would have made money from tourisim but not for the actual games themselves which is where the bulk of the revenues comes from
It was $50mil that could have been better spent on essential services rather than on something we never had any chance of winning
And BTW there is no way in hell FIFA is going to refund our bid monies. More chance of Rudd or Gillard being returned as PM than that happening
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A) why shouldn't the FFA get the money back? FIFA has 'changed the goal posts' by moving the WC to the middle of the domestic football season. Its not a realistic scenario. la liga and the EPL are not going to shut for a year.
Apparently the wording states its only scheduled its not a must. I can't see FIFA refunding us the money.
Yesterday, in an interview with insideworldfootball.com, Blatter dismissed any suggestion that the world governing body could be sued by rival 2022 bidders, the US or Australia, because of the switch.
He quoted the Bid Registration Agreement, saying that point 1.2.1. stipulates that the 22nd edition of the FIFA World Cup is "scheduled to take place" in June and/or July of 2022 "in principle". It does not say that it "must" take place in those months, nor is it a "conditio sine qua non" to host the World Cup in June and July."
http://www.theaustralian.com.au/sport/the-times-sport/fifas-sepp-blatter-finally-admits-qatar-2022-world-cup-error/story-fniiw3ie-1226715841519#
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"in principle" you cant play a world cup during the middle of the English, Spanish, German, Italian etc. club seasons. FIFA knew it was 50 degrees in the Qatar summer before the bidding process began.
WP, Gerks... love you both but you blokes demented. I will reply with a long post later as to why you are wrong. :)
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"in principle" you cant play a world cup during the middle of the English, Spanish, German, Italian etc. club seasons. FIFA knew it was 50 degrees in the Qatar summer before the bidding process began.
You can and they will.
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wont happen
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WP, Gerks... love you both but you blokes demented. I will reply with a long post later as to why you are wrong. :)
I think I can speak on behalf of Mr gerkin as well my good self when I say:
There's no need for a long post later
Becasue you are wrong and we are right :rollin :rollin
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Yesssss Big Willy Style :clapping
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"in principle" you cant play a world cup during the middle of the English, Spanish, German, Italian etc. club seasons. FIFA knew it was 50 degrees in the Qatar summer before the bidding process began.
You can and they will.
I bet you a box of yellow paddle pops they wont / can't
Who pays the wages? The club or international team
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"in principle" you cant play a world cup during the middle of the English, Spanish, German, Italian etc. club seasons. FIFA knew it was 50 degrees in the Qatar summer before the bidding process began.
You can and they will.
I bet you a box of yellow paddle pops they wont / can't
What do you think is going to happen with the WC 2022. The FIFA medical chairman has said its to hot to play in the summer and I can't see them moving it to another country. They are having a vote on changing it to the winter on the 3rd of October.
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Anyone here going next year?
The Qatar victory is why I'm going to Brazil
Won't see another one in a descent country for at least 9 years
Not a massive soccer fan but its all about the bucket list
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Official: Qatar sees record number of Nepalese deaths in July
Last month proved to be the deadliest month on record for Nepalese expats in Qatar, with 32 deaths in all. Most of the deceased were construction workers in their 20s who died of cardiovascular disease, a Nepalese embassy official told Doha News.
When asked what could prompt the men to develop heart problems at such an early age, Second Secretary Harihar idiot Poudel cited working conditions as the main issue:
“Many workers are going without meals, and without enough water, then they are working in high temperatures all day. The weather here is different from our country. Our nationals are not used to it.”
Poudel confirmed a report in the Peninsula that 13 Nepalese laborers died in July from different cardiovascular disorders. Some 11 more perished in road traffic accidents and eight further deaths were attributed to falls and other on-site accidents.
He added, however, that some deaths are ruled to be caused by heart problems to cover up on-site accidents.
"There have been cases where we have suspected that there has been a mutual understanding between the doctor and the company, and the doctor has made a false report saying that they died of cardiac arrest – it is easier for a company to say they died of that.”
Though companies are not allowed to make outdoor employees work between 11am and 3pm during the searing summer months, laborers in Qatar still remain at high risk of heat stroke, which can be fatal if not treated quickly.
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Official: Qatar sees record number of Nepalese deaths in July
the link Bents please add the Link
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Australia is now the 6 pack country of world football. Copping 6 goals where ever they play and whenever they play. Good to see the A League producing such fine talent for the national team. Disgrace.
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Bring back the Guuster!!
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Shoot carney
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Bring back the Guuster!!
FFA chief executive David Gallop confirms that discussions have been held with Guus Hiddink.
Read more: http://www.foxsports.com.au/football/socceroos/ffa-chief-executive-david-gallop-confirms-that-discussions-have-been-held-with-guus-hiddink/story-e6frf4l3-1226738916104#ixzz2hWJVOgMk
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Oh boy. :clapping
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Ang Postecoglou needs to take the coaching reigns for the national team. Has coached the youth team and will be fantastic for him and the League to appoint him rather than getting Guus and pay him overs and get the public on side to try and produce a miracle with a team that is a shadow of the Golden Era side that qualified and played in the WC in 2006.
Graham Arnold is a cancer of Aussie Soccer and should be steered well clear of for the betterment of the national team.
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Ange got the arse from the youth team. How can he now coach the senior national side? Mark Schwarzer player manager ;D
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Who really cares, we'll get slapped Melbourne style anyway. I'll do it on the cheap. :shh
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Ange got the arse from the youth team. How can he now coach the senior national side? Mark Schwarzer player manager ;D
Got back to basics and has enhanced his rep going back to back with a developing team at the Roar who payed an attractive style of football to ute. All coaches get sacked at some time it's how they respond and he responded magnificently. :thumbsup
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south got belted 5-0 in the Prelim this arvo I think
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Certainly did and if it wasn't for the Southern Stars fiasco they would not have been there either. ;D
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Bozza saying we need to get Sir Alex as our new National Coach. :o :o I'd love it but how in the hell could anyone make that happen?
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Bozza saying we need to get Sir Alex as our new National Coach. :o :o I'd love it but how in the hell could anyone make that happen?
Sir Alex is still sitting in the board room at Old Trafford as part of his "ambassadorial" role. He is not going anywhere other than the wine cellar he has at the Old Trafford bunkers to enjoy the bottles he's accumulated there over the years.
Ange Postecoglou is our man. :thumbsup
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I'd laugh my arse if these fools appoint Arnold and not Ange I really would.
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I'd laugh if either are appointed. Ange may have improved but is he good enough? I mean, is he really good enough to take charge of a national team that desperately needs to improve?
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Craig foster
Make Australia into barca ;D
If Ange leaves Paul trimboli being the new manager would make me happy
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I'd laugh if either are appointed. Ange may have improved but is he good enough? I mean, is he really good enough to take charge of a national team that desperately needs to improve?
Who would you recommend for the Job Coach?
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Ange Postecoglou free to coach Socceroos after being released by Melbourne Victory
http://www.abc.net.au/news/2013-10-22/melbourne-victory-releases-ange-postecoglou-to-coach-socceroos/5038890
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Hasn't this bloke been sacked from a national team previously? Olyroos? Under 21s?
Good get lmao
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Hasn't this bloke been sacked from a national team previously? Olyroos? Under 21s?
Good get lmao
:lol :clapping
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Hasn't this bloke been sacked from a national team previously? Olyroos? Under 21s?
Good get lmao
Would be like Carlton going out and hiring Mick Malthouse after Pies sacked him. Oh wait.. :whistle
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I'd laugh if either are appointed. Ange may have improved but is he good enough? I mean, is he really good enough to take charge of a national team that desperately needs to improve?
Who would you recommend for the Job Coach?
Personally I'd like to see Glenn Roeder get another shot at the big time.
:lol
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FFA pack of mental pissants
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Worse part about this is now the Victory will get better
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Schwarzer has retired from international Soccer. What a great long career in goal for the Socceroos :clapping.
http://www.smh.com.au/sport/soccer/mark-schwarzer-retires-from-socceroos-20131106-2x06m.html
And moving onto the present and future, here is Ange's Socceroos' squad:
Goalkeepers: Mitchell Langerak (Borussia Dortmund), Mat Ryan (Club Brugge KV).
Defenders: Jason Davidson (SC Heracles Almelo), Ryan McGowan (Shandong Luneng), Lucas Neill (Omiya Ardija), Rhys Williams (Middlesbrough FC), Alex Wilkinson (Jeonbuk Hyundai), Michael Zullo (Adelaide United).
Midfielders: Oliver Bozanic (FC Luzern), Mark Bresciano (Al Gharafa), Ivan Franjic (Brisbane Roar), James Holland (FK Austria Vienna), Mile Jedinak (Crystal Palace FC), Matthew McKay (Brisbane Roar), Mark Milligan (Melbourne Victory), Tom Rogic (Celtic FC), Dario Vidosic (FC Sion).
Forwards: Tim Cahill (New York Red Bulls), Josh Kennedy (Nagoya Grampus), Robbie Kruse (TSV Bayer 04 Leverkusen), Mathew Leckie (FSV Frankfurt), Tommy Oar (FC Utrecht).
http://www.sportal.com.au/football/socceroos/ange-postecoglou-names-socceroos-squad/sa2p00e4i0gx19okqfprpxhra
Rumour going around that Timmy Cahill will be named captain.
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big schwarzy :clapping :cheers
should get troisi between the sticks
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Odd time to retire
Langerak :clapping
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Shouldn't be allowed to play for Australia if A-League is the highest level you have ever played at. Why is Schwarzy retiring now? And where is Federicci? Wilkshire gawn it seems.
This is rubbish. Ange and his 5 year plan
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Shouldn't be allowed to play for Australia if A-League is the highest level you have ever played at. Why is Schwarzy retiring now? And where is Federicci? Wilkshire gawn it seems.
This is rubbish. Ange and his 5 year plan
na, thats stupid
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And where is Federicci?
Still at Reading, should be our number 1 keeper
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Langerak not made a mistake for dortnond...
Other than getting his teeth knocked out
Borussia Dortmund manager Juergen Klopp is a big fan of goalkeeper Mitch Langerak.
The 24-year old Australian will step into the suspended Roman Weidenfeller’s boots for his 11th appearance for the German club when they head to Augsburg for the 2013/14 Bundesliga opener on Saturday.
So far, Langerak has not been a part of a losing Dortmund side indicating that Klopp is very comfortable with his keeping stocks.
"You think you are getting a beach boy from Australia, but what you actually get is an unbelievable hard worker," said Klopp.
"Mitch is a very competitive character: goalkeeper is one position which we can react without problems when there are any injuries."
Dortmund’s director of sport Michael Zorc added: "Mitch is the competitive type: he's strong both on the line and in the air, plus he's brave.”
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Mitch is a great talent and would have him in the squad, but hes not getting game time week in week out whih is the one thing that will probably cost him the number 1 spot at this moment in time.
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anyone heading over to Brazil.
Just had 2 applications come back unsuccessful. A friend got all his allocations.
Fifa are a joke
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Shouldn't be allowed to play for Australia if A-League is the highest level you have ever played at. Why is Schwarzy retiring now? And where is Federicci? Wilkshire gawn it seems.
This is rubbish. Ange and his 5 year plan
na, thats stupid
Why? Why do A-League players get picked over blokes who actually get the occasional game at a decent standard in Europe? AFC Wimbledon would probably give the best side in the A-League a hiding. You don't see blokes from Division 3 getting a game for England.
And where is Federicci?
Still at Reading, should be our number 1 keeper
I know where he is ;D And yes a I agree. The lad has played consistent Premiership & Championship football and he gets overlooked constantly. I am a fan of Galegovic but stuff me, go and get a game in a decent comp.
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Justin bieber and a Brazilian hooker
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cD-HnAOMV0c
Doubt he's got trouble getting tickets
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Shouldn't be allowed to play for Australia if A-League is the highest level you have ever played at. Why is Schwarzy retiring now? And where is Federicci? Wilkshire gawn it seems.
This is rubbish. Ange and his 5 year plan
na, thats stupid
Why? Why do A-League players get picked over blokes who actually get the occasional game at a decent standard in Europe? AFC Wimbledon would probably give the best side in the A-League a hiding. You don't see blokes from Division 3 getting a game for England.
And where is Federicci?
Still at Reading, should be our number 1 keeper
I know where he is ;D And yes a I agree. The lad has played consistent Premiership & Championship football and he gets overlooked constantly. I am a fan of Galegovic but stuff me, go and get a game in a decent comp.
Im glad there is someone else who is on the same page re Fed. :cheers Is a gun
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Didn't the fed get a bit messed up after his kid died?
I think for example western Sydney would give pom third divsion sides a run for their money.
S ono would be if not the best very close to the better player in that division. Even the Ike of mooy has shown he is good enough for scot top tier whike spiranovic is good enough for the championship. I would think troisi,ADP would get a run for Wimbledon. Troisi at the peak of his powers choosing Melbourne while contracted to juventus says something
I know its in fashion to say the a league is rubbish, but the standard is on the improve.
MVC 2nd half vs Adelaide for example was quality. (Granted, Adelaide was shyte)
I agree Eugene is a donkey smoocher
It wasn't that long ago Fulham bought leijer. Armini and langrrak sided for Europe's 2ns best side direct from Australia domestic league
England has been poo for half a century hence perhaps not the ideal benchmark
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Did you just say Dortmund are the 2nd best side in Europe? And what are you trying to say with Troisi?
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Did you just say Dortmund are the 2nd best side in Europe? And what are you trying to say with Troisi?
http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/2013_UEFA_Champions_League_Final
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Yes and Hawthorn can't beat us so I guess that = Richmond best team in the AFL? Arsenal just beat Dortmund so Arsenal = current 2nd best side in Europe? And don't tell me Greece were one of the top two sides in Europe in 2004 :lol :lol
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well according to the final placings in the European championships of that year they were the best....weren't they?
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:lol
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Yes
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They were
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That's the point :lol
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lol I get your point
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:thumbsup ;D
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First game under Ange vs Costa Rica tonight. Will be interested to see if there will be any notable differences after just a week in camp.
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Cahill :clapping
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Rogic :cheers
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Rogic has the talent to be a deadset gun
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How many times did he break lines. Has the ball on a string.
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Rogic dribbles like a mad kent
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Hopefully he goes on to fulfill his talent.
Think he grew up playing futsal hence his skills are boss
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Undefeated Ange. Meanwhile Victory have turned to ass
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Rogic has the talent to be a deadset gun
Yet can't crack games for Celtic. Needs to move from that gimp club
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yep should never look at the SPL as an option. Rubbish league.
Only a friendly against an understrength Costa Rica but there were encouraging signs with glimpses shown of the way Ange wants the team to play. Ball movement was quicker, sharper and off the ball running was a lot more prevalent. Defensive structure was a lot better with the whole team pressing well and making it hard for CR to open up any holes.
Good to see players like Leckie, Davidson, Williams and Franjic starting. Leckie missed a sitter and Davidson made a few errors but that happens and that's why these guys need game time, would persevere with both.
Reckon Williams is a lock at Centre back, not sold on Franjic and Vidosic but all for giving them a run to see if they have what it takes. Rogic and Oar should and probably will be starters.
Milligan has his knockers, but Ive warmed to him and think he's in the mix for a starting role. Reads the play well and could do worse with him as one of our defensive mids. Jedinak is great at breaking down attacks, absolute tower of strength in front of the back 4 but think his skills and vision are a bit lacking and needs to keep working.
Cahill looks much better as a drifting mid, his biggest weapon apart from the actual scoring is an innate ability to make late runs from deep and be in the right place at the right time, playing as a striker doesn't allow him to do this.
Kruse just continues to get better and better, going to Germany was the right move for him, but is at the point where hes going to need to start playing regularly.
We don't have the top end talent we had in 2006 but we have a deeper pool to choose from and can comfortably be a strong international side with the right setup imo. ....and who knows if players like Rogic are given opportunities they may well turn into our next stars.
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Rogic has the talent to be a deadset gun
Yet can't crack games for Celtic. Needs to move from that gimp club
Just means Celtic are redarted. Celtic should have started him after they sold their two best playersast window
Ever since his debut for gosford he's been a gun. He reminds me of kaka in his prime... is EPL teams are bidding millions for Milligan then rogic is worth heaps
Quite frankly the team should be build around rogic.
Cahill/Geez
Kruse. Rogic. Oar.
Jedinak. Mooy
Davidson Williams. McGowan. Wilshire
Langerak/Ryan
Rogjc has more talent in his left nut than hacks like Carney. Leckie. Visovic
Adelaide/Sydney hacks combination
Can't remember a time when rogic has not looked a class above
Traoe should be nationalized at least as back up left back
Needs to pick defenders that can run. Otherwise the good teams will out 6 or 8 against us in Brazil. I have nightmares of neymar, ronaldo, mess I vs niell and Sasha... even the like of south Korea and the japs will run rings around up Asian cup
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Lol @ people booing lucas
yep should never look at the SPL as an option. Rubbish league.
Only a friendly against an understrength Costa Rica but there were encouraging signs with glimpses shown of the way Ange wants the team to play. Ball movement was quicker, sharper and off the ball running was a lot more prevalent. Defensive structure was a lot better with the whole team pressing well and making it hard for CR to open up any holes.
Good to see players like Leckie, Davidson, Williams and Franjic starting. Leckie missed a sitter and Davidson made a few errors but that happens and that's why these guys need game time, would persevere with both.
Reckon Williams is a lock at Centre back, not sold on Franjic and Vidosic but all for giving them a run to see if they have what it takes. Rogic and Oar should and probably will be starters.
Milligan has his knockers, but Ive warmed to him and think he's in the mix for a starting role. Reads the play well and could do worse with him as one of our defensive mids. Jedinak is great at breaking down attacks, absolute tower of strength in front of the back 4 but think his skills and vision are a bit lacking and needs to keep working.
Cahill looks much better as a drifting mid, his biggest weapon apart from the actual scoring is an innate ability to make late runs from deep and be in the right place at the right time, playing as a striker doesn't allow him to do this.
Kruse just continues to get better and better, going to Germany was the right move for him, but is at the point where hes going to need to start playing regularly.
We don't have the top end talent we had in 2006 but we have a deeper pool to choose from and can comfortably be a strong international side with the right setup imo. ....and who knows if players like Rogic are given opportunities they may well turn into our next stars.
Milligan is not good enough IMO
I am bias due to his Sydney affiliation yet still
Hopefully he goes on to fulfill his talent.
Think he grew up playing futsal hence his skills are boss
Like the great Ricky diaco
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:lol bents Diacooooo
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Rogic has the talent to be a deadset gun
Yet can't crack games for Celtic. Needs to move from that gimp club
Just means Celtic are redarted. Celtic should have started him after they sold their two best playersast window
Ever since his debut for gosford he's been a gun. He reminds me of kaka in his prime... is EPL teams are bidding millions for Milligan then rogic is worth heaps
Quite frankly the team should be build around rogic.
Cahill/Geez
Kruse. Rogic. Oar.
Jedinak. Mooy
Davidson Williams. McGowan. Wilshire
Langerak/Ryan
Rogjc has more talent in his left nut than hacks like Carney. Leckie. Visovic
Adelaide/Sydney hacks combination
Can't remember a time when rogic has not looked a class above
Traoe should be nationalized at least as back up left back
Needs to pick defenders that can run. Otherwise the good teams will out 6 or 8 against us in Brazil. I have nightmares of neymar, ronaldo, mess I vs niell and Sasha... even the like of south Korea and the japs will run rings around up Asian cup
Agree with all of that except Leckie, reckon he has a fair bit of talent/speed and mongrel to burn, got a soft spot for ex Bulleen boy. :thumbsup
Carney should never see the squad again, never understood the love. Think we can do better than Wilkshere at RB as well, has lost his pace and edge imo. Wish lucas wasn't in but looks like Ange is backing him.
I like the 4-2-3-1 system, France took it to a new level in 1998 and think this has been the best setup for us since the 06 squad. We don't have the class of the top nations so got to make up for it with extra coverage with 2 def mids and the 4 up front need to be mobile so they can interchange.
Herd at Villa, Matt Holland, Jedinak, Milligan and mcKay the 5 central/defensive mids vying for 2 spots on the park.
Would also like to see Mooy, Juric, Traore and Troisi given a chance
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everything going swimmingly - 2/3 dead
(http://i.imgur.com/yBmqA6d.jpg)
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Idiots.
Hope they move it to the maracana as I won't going near that hole of Sao.
Every major tournament has the same issues. Sth Africa and Greece were also gonna miss out on events but government or sepp and his illuminati mates step forward the dollars.
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Celtic won 7-0 vs some shyte Scot side
Rogic unused sub :banghead
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Celtic won 7-0 vs some shyte Scot side
Rogic unused sub :banghead
stuff that's annoying!!! Leave that pissant club Tommy
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One way or another Celtic seem to be a curse on Socceroo careers. I'd want him to leave even he was getting a run - SPL's a joke.
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In same group as Spain. :lol
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Spain, Netherlands, Chile in our group lmao.
World no.1, 9 and 15. :lol
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What's so funny?
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Our draw
Australia vs Chile - June 13 at Arena Pantanal in Cuiba
Australia vs Holland - June 18 at Estádio Beira-Rio in Porto Alegre
Australia vs Spain - June 23 at Arena da Baixada in Curitiba.
:help :help :help
All the Groups
Group A
Brazil Croatia Mexico Cameroon
Group B
Spain Australia Chile Netherlands
Group C
Colombia Greece Ivory Coast Japan
Group D
Uruguay Costa Rica England Italy
Group E
Switzerland Ecuador France Honduras
Group F
Argentina Bosnia & Herzegovina Iran Nigeria
Group G
Germany Portugal Ghana USA
Group H
Belgium Algeria Russia South Korea
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Looks like the Australian boys will be coming home from Brazil before the postman arrives. Have to say they drew the short straw. 3 big losses coming up.
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Ramps greece WTF is that even a group. How lucky is that
I got 2 skata games and 1 ripper game. Portugal v Germany
gotta try and scalp for Oz vrs chile.
one of my mates followed italy and is off to the amazon. lol
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What's so funny?
We'll be lucky not to have a goal difference of -10 by the end of the tournament. ;D
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Ouch
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What's so funny?
We'll be lucky not to have a goal difference of -10 by the end of the tournament. ;D
Something like this tigs :help
(http://i.imgur.com/2WycK9o.jpg)
I had to laugh when poor ol' Fos said this was a great group for us to learn from :lol. Not sure how you learn from one-sided games where you get thumped 0-6 :help.
We needed to get into either groups C or H which are soft. Even groups A and F would've been alright where Brazil and Argentina respectively will cruise through winning all three games and then you're left to fight out for the 2nd spot against the remaining other two countries, similar to what we did in 2006. The group we actually got is the worst case scenario :help.
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Yep, great learning experience getting slapped silly. :clapping
I think that chart is generous too. Spain could beat us 10-0 on their own. :lol
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We won't be getting thumped, yes we have no chance of getting through a group with 2 heavyweights and a pretty handy mid weight, but we won't be copping 6-0 rogerings like we did under the previous clown coach.
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I reckon at least one will give us a jolly good rogering :shh
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Holland could put 7 past us without s worry
Spain will have 90% possession
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Holland could put 7 past us without s worry
Spain will have 90% possession
Imagine what Van persie will do. :banghead
Maybe they'll be nice and bring back Bergkamp/Van Nistelrooy and only beat us 5-0.
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More worried. About robben
He will extract the urine
Who will play at left back? Carney? Left center back? Lucas? Sasha
It could get real ugly
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More worried. About robben
He will extract the urine
Who will play at left back? Carney? Left center back? Lucas? Sasha
It could get real ugly
Big Robbie. :clapping
We should play 10 strikers. We ain't stopping many goals anyway, may as well try and nail a few ourselves. :lol
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More worried. About robben
He will extract the urine
Who will play at left back? Carney? Left center back? Lucas? Sasha
It could get real ugly
None of those jokers will play in the WC, if carney gets another NT call up, I will slap Ange silly next time I see him. He's been cut from his umpteenth club recently - following in our captain Lucas's shoes - new club every 6 months.
The future is here, Ange will give the young blokes a go and they will run all day (admittedly chasing dutch and Spanish tail ;D) but they wont stop like dads army would've.
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More worried. About robben
He will extract the urine
Who will play at left back? Carney? Left center back? Lucas? Sasha
It could get real ugly
Big Robbie. :clapping
We should play 10 strikers. We ain't stopping many goals anyway, may as well try and nail a few ourselves. :lol
9 strikers and 2 keepers
Big Ange Mastamind :clapping
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Just play 11 obese effs and build an impenetrable wall of ghee
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Just play 11 obese effs and build an impenetrable wall of ghee
:lol
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We won't be getting thumped, yes we have no chance of getting through a group with 2 heavyweights and a pretty handy mid weight, but we won't be copping 6-0 rogerings like we did under the previous clown coach.
I wouldn't be surprised if we see similar score lines. They will be playing for goal differences against us because whoever comes 2nd in our group will play 1st placed team in group A which will most likely will be brazil.
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(http://resources3.news.com.au/images/2013/10/02/1226731/830191-adama-traore.jpg)
how much more stuffing australian do you want :banghead :banghead :banghead
give ADAMa a passport you god dam holes
Id doubt even the like of 1980 I Was There would argue his 'unaustralianness'
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(http://resources3.news.com.au/images/2013/10/02/1226731/830191-adama-traore.jpg)
how much more stuffing australian do you want :banghead :banghead :banghead
give ADAMa a passport you god dam holes
I like him already!
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Looks like a slave.
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a happy slave
(http://uppitynegronetwork.files.wordpress.com/2013/01/django-1.jpg)
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Bayer 04 Leverkusen's Australia international winger Robbie Kruse has suffered a serious knee injury in training.
The 25-year-old tore the anterior cruciate ligament in his left knee on Friday and an MRI scan on Saturday confirmed the severity of the injury, which will keep Kruse out for the rest of the 2013/14 season, jeopardising his chances of featuring at the 2014 FIFA World Cup. He is set to undergo an operation next week.
http://www.bundesliga.com/en/liga/news/2013/0000283919.php
Our best Socceroo out of the World Cup :(.
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Talk he may go for the lars surgery to try and make it for the WC.
Poor bastard, was becoming a real player for us
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Curitiba going to be dropped as a World Cup venue :lol
socceroos will be playing their games on a float at mardi gras instead
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The Socceroos kit goes old school for the 2014 World Cup:
(https://fbcdn-sphotos-g-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash3/t1/1959365_724377654272975_932479137_n.png)
http://au.fourfourtwo.com/forums/default.aspx?g=posts&t=89831
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How do you lose from being 3-0 up with 33 mins to go?! :P The World Cup isn't going to be pretty to watch :facepalm.
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Did you watch the game? A lot more positives to take out of it than negatives.
First half was as skillful a performance as Ive seen from a socceroos side, great to watch and come along miles since the pathetic long balls and pedestrian build up under Holger. We looked fast, slick with plenty of movement. Second half was disappointing result wise but a good experience and ensures they don't get carried away. Going down to 10 men stopped the momentum but good eye opener that they need to work on how to contain if this happens again.
Plenty to work on but it was great to see the difference and improvement in game play in such a short period of time under Ange. Would give them heart that theyre on the right track.
Biggest positive for mine was seeing Curtis Good and Spiranovic playing as centre backs. Looked fantastic first half, hope they get more chances to show they are way ahead of Lucas neill
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The first half was great and a credit to Ange's coaching but the game goes for 90 mins not 45. It's frustrating seeing the Socceroos give up goals to silly schoolboy errors. Defenders falling over in the box allowing their opponent a free header from a cross; a stupid backpass which left Langerak high and dry and got him sent off; another cross from out wide that sees Ecuador outnumber our defence 3-1 at the top of the box with just a minute or so to go in injury time. Obviously people will blame fatigue with a young-ish team which saw our intensity fall away and structures fall apart especially with 10-men defending a 3-2 lead but no international side should be conceding 4 goals in the last 33 minutes when they're 3-0 up.
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Mitch Langerak...
(https://encrypted-tbn2.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcSx1ODBekpFOplkMWuh-2yNk0FoaCTZP2-jJtDgAWFQZifXW2UO)
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The first half was great and a credit to Ange's coaching but the game goes for 90 mins not 45. It's frustrating seeing the Socceroos give up goals to silly schoolboy errors. Defenders falling over in the box allowing their opponent a free header from a cross; a stupid backpass which left Langerak high and dry and got him sent off; another cross from out wide that sees Ecuador outnumber our defence 3-1 at the top of the box with just a minute or so to go in injury time. Obviously people will blame fatigue with a young-ish team which saw our intensity fall away and structures fall apart especially with 10-men defending a 3-2 lead but no international side should be conceding 4 goals in the last 33 minutes when they're 3-0 up.
I prefer to see the positives in that performance. Clear improvement in gamestyle and skill. They wont concede like that again, better to cop it in a friendly and learn from it
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The Socceroos have dropped down to 63rd on the latest FIFA rankings.
http://www.football-rankings.info/2014/03/fifa-ranking-march-2014-final-preview.html
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The first half was great and a credit to Ange's coaching but the game goes for 90 mins not 45. It's frustrating seeing the Socceroos give up goals to silly schoolboy errors. Defenders falling over in the box allowing their opponent a free header from a cross; a stupid backpass which left Langerak high and dry and got him sent off; another cross from out wide that sees Ecuador outnumber our defence 3-1 at the top of the box with just a minute or so to go in injury time. Obviously people will blame fatigue with a young-ish team which saw our intensity fall away and structures fall apart especially with 10-men defending a 3-2 lead but no international side should be conceding 4 goals in the last 33 minutes when they're 3-0 up.
I prefer to see the positives in that performance. Clear improvement in gamestyle and skill. They wont concede like that again, better to cop it in a friendly and learn from it
I'm sadly not that confident especially with the World Cup group we're in :help. Given the team we have, if we walk away from this World Cup with a similar outcome to the 1974 Socceroos then IMO it will be a positive.
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The draw for next year's Asian Cup has been announced.
(http://resources0.news.com.au/images/2014/03/26/1226865/679736-91bbfb1c-b4c9-11e3-995d-6099a80e173b.jpg)
THE Socceroos will open their 2015 Asian Cup campaign against Kuwait in Melbourne on January 9.
Following their clash against Kuwait at AAMI Park, the Socceroos meet Oman at Sydney’s Stadium Australia on January 13.
The Socceroos then face the toughest test of their Group A campaign when they host the South Koreans at Brisbane’s Suncorp Stadium on January 17.
The 2015 Asian Cup will be held in five Australian cities – Sydney, Melbourne, Brisbane, Newcastle and Canberra – from January 9 to 31.
Two teams from each group qualify for the quarter finals.
http://www.news.com.au/sport/football/socceroos-handed-a-tough-draw-for-the-2015-asian-cup-with-south-korea-oman-and-kuwait/story-fndkzvnd-1226865593681?from=herald+sun_rss
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Socceroo Brett Holman will not make a second World Cup appearance after announcing his retirement from international Soccer, effective immediately, on Wednesday.
http://www.theage.com.au/sport/soccer/socceroo-brett-holman-retires-from-international-football-20140430-zr1vj.html
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tap on the shoulder
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Neil axed from squad
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rightly so
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Australia's World Cup preparations have suffered another potential blow, with Mile Jedinak injuring his groin on the final day of the English Premier League season.
http://theworldgame.sbs.com.au/news/1189061/Jedinak-under-injury-cloud
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Chili
Claudio Bravo (Real Sociedad), Johnny Herrera (Universidad de Chile), Cristopher Toselli (Universidad Catolica), Paulo Garces (O'Higgins)
Defenders: Gary Medel (Cardiff City), Gonzalo Jara (Nottingham Forest), Marcos Gonzalez (Union Espanola), Enzo Andia (Universidad Catolica), José Rojas (Universidad de Chile), Eugenio Mena (Santos), Mauricio Isla (Juventus)
Midfielders: Jorge Valdívia (Palmeiras), Felipe Gutiérrez (Twente), Rodrigo Millar (Atlas), José Pedro Fuenzalida (Colo Colo), Pablo Hernández (O'Higgins), Matias Fernández (Fiorentina), Francisco Silva (Osasuna), Arturo Vidal (Juventus), Charles Aránguiz (Internacional), Marcelo Díaz (Basel), Carlos Carmona (Atalanta), Miiko Albornoz (Malmo)
Forwards: Alexis Sánchez (Barcelona), Esteban Paredes (Colo Colo), Eduardo Vargas (Valencia), Gustavo Canales (Union Espanola), Jean Beausejour (Wigan Athletic), Mauricio Pinilla (Cagliari), Fabián Orellana (Celta)
Swamp Germans
Krul (Newcastle United), Cillessen (Ajax), Zoet (PSV), Vorm (Swansea)
Defenders: Van Aanholt (Vitesse), Blind (Ajax), Janmaat (Feyenoord), Kongolo (Feyenoord), Rekik (PSV), Veltman (Ajax), Verhaegh (Augsburg), Vlaar (Aston Villa), De Vrij (Feyenoord), Martins-Indi (Feyenoord)
Midfielders: Clasie (Feyenoord), Fer (Norwich City), De Guzman (Swansea City), De Jong (AC Milan), Sneijder (Galatasaray), Vilhena (Feyenoord), Van der Vaart (HSV), Wijnaldum (PSV)
Attackers: Boëtius (Feyenoord), Depay (PSV), Huntelaar (Schalke 04), Kuyt (Fenerbahce), Lens (Dynamo Kiev), Van Persie (Manchester United), Promes (FC Twente), Robben (Bayern Munchen),
World & Europe Champions
Iker Casillas (Real Madrid)
Pepe Reina (Napoli, on loan from Liverpool)
David de Gea (Manchester United)
DEFENDERS:
Cesar Azpilicueta (Chelsea)
Gerard Pique (Barcelona)
Sergio Ramos (Real Madrid)
Jordi Alba (Barcelona)
Alberto Moreno (Sevilla)
Raul Albiol (Napoli)
Javi Martinez (Bayern Munich)
Daniel Carvajal (Real Madrid)
Juanfran (Atletico Madrid)
MIDFIELDERS:
Sergio Busquets (Barcelona)
Koke (Atletico Madrid)
Xavi Hernández (Barcelona)
Xabi Alonso (Real Madrid)
Thiago Alcântara (Bayern Munich)
Cesc Fàbregas (Barcelona)
Ander Iturraspe (Athletic Bilbao)
David Silva (Manchester City)
Jesús Navas (Manchester City)
Juan Mata (Manchester United)
Pedro Rodríguez (Barcelona)
Andrés Iniesta (Barcelona)
Santi Cazorla (Arsenal)
FORWARDS:
Diego Costa (Atletico Madrid)
Fernando Torres (Chelsea)
David Villa (Atletico Madrid)
Fernando Llorente (Juventus)
Álvaro Negredo (Manchester City)
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spain is ridiculous
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Australia
GOALKEEPERS
Mark BIRIGHITTI (Newcastle Jets FC, AUSTRALIA)
Eugene GALEKOVIC (Adelaide United FC, AUSTRALIA)
Mitchell LANGERAK (B.V. Borussia 09 Dortmund, GERMANY)
Mat RYAN (Club Brugge KV, BELGIUM)
DEFENDERS
Jason DAVIDSON (SC Heracles Almelo, NETHERLANDS)
Ivan FRANJIC (Brisbane Roar FC, AUSTRALIA)
Curtis GOOD (Dundee United FC, SCOTLAND)
Ryan McGOWAN (Shandong Luneng Taishan FC, CHINA)
Matthew SPIRANOVIC (Western Sydney Wanderers FC, AUSTRALIA)
Alex WILKINSON (Jeonbuk Hyundai FC, KOREA REPUBLIC)
Luke WILKSHIRE (FK Dinamo Moscow, RUSSIA)
Bailey WRIGHT (Preston North End FC, ENGLAND)
MIDFIELDERS
Oliver BOZANIC (FC Luzern, SWITZERLAND)
Mark BRESCIANO (Al Gharafa, QATAR)
Joshua BRILLANTE (Newcastle Jets FC, AUSTRALIA)
James HOLLAND (FK Austria Vienna, AUSTRIA)
Mile JEDINAK (Crystal Palace FC, ENGLAND)
Massimo LUONGO (Swindon Town FC, ENGLAND)
Matthew McKAY (Brisbane ROAR FC, AUSTRALIA)
Mark MILLIGAN (Melbourne Victory FC, AUSTRALIA)
Tommy OAR (FC Utrecht, NETHERLANDS)
Tommy ROGIC (Melbourne Victory FC, AUSTRALIA)
Adam SAROTA (FC Utrecht, NETHERLANDS)
James TROISI (Melbourne Victory FC, AUSTRALIA)
Dario VIDOSIC (FC Sion, SWITZERLAND)
FORWARDS
Tim CAHILL (New York Red Bulls, USA)
Ben HALLORAN (Fortuna Dusseldorf, GERMANY)
Josh KENNEDY (Nagoya Grampus 8, JAPAN)
Matthew LECKIE (FSV Frankfurt 1899, GERMANY)
Adam TAGGART (Newcastle Jets FC, AUSTRALIA)
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Spain :o :lol 0-10 down,
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spain pfft old and slow
:lol my goodness that is a squad and that MIDFIELD :gobdrop
I like our squad, some good young talent being given a chance, they'll do us proud and give the Asian Cup a shake next year.
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I'm pleased we went with a younger squad. We're going to get flogged in each match anyway, so use this World Cup as a learning experience to understand (brutally) what level the younger blokes need to aim and build towards for 2018 and more realistically 2022.
I hope Jedinak is okay :pray.
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Than Spain midfield is ridiculous. :lol
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Change our name from Socceroos to A-League Gimpers.
Hope we go alright and have a crack. It's about all those blokes can do.
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Whatever happened to that little muslamic spic kid with the ginger afro Mustafa Whatshisname?
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Amini got kidnapped by Willy Wonka and is now forced to work at the chocolate factory.
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He is playing in the Dortmund 2s I think. Very tough team toncrack a game
He would have been trying get gotzebpostion who was sold to Munich for 50 million odd and replaced by a 35 million player
Mustafa armini. Sick name
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http://m.imgur.com/a/ukeng
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Good first 30 mins in the main from the Socceroos last night creating a number of chances but once again poor defending meant we gave up a schoolboy goal against the run of play. The 2nd half was just going through the motions but that's no surprise for a last home friendly just before the World Cup.
As for the starting XI last night - Ryan, Franjic, McGowan, Wilkinson, Davidson, Holland, Milligan, Troisi, Oar, Cahill (c), Leckie - we've got to add in Spiranovic and Jedinak.
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if Robbie Kruse and Rhys Williams were fit it would be quite a solid squad
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Things are going to get very ugly in Brazil.
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Reckon you'll find 3 or 4 from yesterdays side wont play in the starting starting 11 come the Chile game. Troisi, McGowan, and 1 of Holland/Milligan will make way.
Plus we changed our formation slightly and went with 1 def mid instead of the usual 2. Jedinak and bresc will come into the midfield. Spiranovic will definitely come in for McGowan who struggled. Spewing Good and Williams are injured, both would have started imo. Whats bailey Wright like? eff me we are scraping the bottom of the barrel when it come to centre backs...
Oar and Leckie are fast and dangerous attackers, Leckie though needs to work on his final ball, got into a shedload of good positions with his pace but final ball was schoolboy standard. Holland had a poor game but was asked to play a slightly different role, toss up between him and milligan to support jedinak, cant play all 3, although we may have to for defensive cover given how poor our centrebacks are. ::)
Loved the tempo we started with yesterday, first 25mins were very good, we seemed to tire and then went to a very dull safe mode. Biggest thing for me was our final ball, we give away the ball like that at the WC and we will get sliced on the counter by the Netherlands and Chile. Good thing is Spain will have about 80-% possession so we wont have it enough to give it away.
We look a lot quicker and slicker already which is a vast improvement on where we were at, but still have plenty of work to do. I still reckon we will surprise with how competitive we'll be at the WC.
What I think will be our stock starting lineup
---------------------------------------Ryan---------------------------------
Franjic--------------------Wilkinson-----Spiranovic--------------Davidson
------------------------Jedinak---------------Milligan-----------------------
Leckie----------------------------Bresciano-------------------------Oar----
-----------------------------------Cahill--------------------------------------
Think Rogic, kennedy, Troisi and Halloran all have important roles to play off the bench.
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http://m.imgur.com/a/3yX7c
Anti Fifa graffiti brazil
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Rafa van den vaart joins strrotman missing world cup due to injury
Probably he best two Dutch cwnter MIDs
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Thank god im out of here focus on a different sport
7 days and counting lads.
Stay tuned on here for some footage and pics from some matches and from Rio.
Have tickets for 2 games Portugal v Germany, Spain V Chile @ Maracana
Will try scalp for Oz v Netherlands but flights are 500 return so need to weigh up if it's really worth it to watch an ass pumping. (Seem enough in my life)
No kids no wife just a few married boys
Game on. stuff RFC
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What happens on the footy trip, stays on the footy trip Angus. ;)
Enjoy it mate. :thumbsup
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envious angus, enjoy mate, will be a ripper :thumbsup
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Spain training
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NGc6d67veEs
(oh dear)
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Spain training
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NGc6d67veEs
(oh dear)
We'll need to play an 6-5 system - 6 goalkeepers & 5 defenders.
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Australia are the laughing stock of this WC over here.
These spic Chileans are parading around like the cup is theirs to lose. They give it big time when you mention your country of origin. stuff I hope we smash them and then I will go to Spain v Chile and cheer Spain in their faces wearing an Aussie shirt
Great vibe few idiots as expected . Will post pictures up. What is the site to do that on here?
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Be racist to the pricks
CH CHcCH
Le le me
Viva chile
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Be racist to the pricks
CH CHcCH
Le le me
Viva chile
I'm over that bloody chant all over the place. Like I said theirs to lose apparently
Chileans are the new poms carrying on with their small man syndrome antics
Must win game forget the other 2
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Go to Brazilto get sway from tigers being shyte
Coo it for sAustralia being shyte
Poor bugger
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Australia are the laughing stock of this WC over here.
These spic Chileans are parading around like the cup is theirs to lose. They give it big time when you mention your country of origin. stuff I hope we smash them and then I will go to Spain v Chile and cheer Spain in their faces wearing an Aussie shirt
Great vibe few idiots as expected . Will post pictures up. What is the site to do that on here?
Can use flickr or photobucket mate :thumbsup
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Leckie is having a game and a half.
Cahill should have had a penalty. The Chilean defenders had a fistful of his shirt.
Still can get a draw out of this. The Socceroos are creating enough decent attacks.
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all done. 3~1 loss yet we played the better football in the second half.
oh well, time to wait for the second bad loss of the day, commencing in about 3 hours :gotigers :-[
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Gutted
Leckie, Bresch, Cahill guns
Rest please. Chileans throwing beer stuff they are a disgrace
That aranxta Sanchez bloke worth more than our team so proud effort but we had them
Ooh well viva Italia
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Davidson was good.
Thank goodness Vidal was not fit.
Good try chilli too good
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Leckie and Davidson were awesome and announced themselves.
Bresc is a gun, crook back, 30+ still a boss. Cahill nuff said. Top effort, fightback was gutsy, disappointing to cop the 3rd and make the scoreline look worse.
Ducth smashed Spain 5-1 omg
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Had every intention on watching this but had an early call in to work due to a breakdown. Got to listen to bits and pieces on the radio and sounds like we had a real dip.
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(http://static1.businessinsider.com/image/539b594069bedd1f69d29c53-1200-800/450567570.jpg)
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Leckie and Davidson were awesome and announced themselves.
Bresc is a gun, crook back, 30+ still a boss. Cahill nuff said. Top effort, fightback was gutsy, disappointing to cop the 3rd and make the scoreline look worse.
Ducth smashed Spain 5-1 omg
Spain and Netherlands will still qualify out of the group.
I thought Chile after their initial onslaught where very lax defensively and I think Holland and Spain will gobble them up with ease.
Agree Leckie and Davidson were huge tonight.
Ange IMHO has gone about this the right way in his selections.
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if we didnt cop the 2nd goal so quick after the first one we probably would have got a result from this game. Australia played well and Postecoglou is on the right track with this team.
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As well as the Aussies played in the last hour against Chile, it's going to be 'fun' coming up against the Dutch in the form they are in :-\.
At least the Aussies can claim they did better in their first game than Spain and Greece ;D.
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The elephants all over the mapsat the moment.
With drogba on the pine
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Just met Kewell. Bang
Last night Gallop A Harper and Buckley
Gale had just left so we hounded Buckley why Richmond are so poo. Good blokes though especially Gallop.
Aussie Dutch tomorrow. Pumped. What an experience. I urge you to try get to a WC in your lifetimes in a pure football country not that Qatar rubbish.
Downgrade your RFC coterie $950 top WP style memberships, and use that money to see this. You will get more out of this than the RFC club will ever give you
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So what did they say about us being crap Dan?
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Milligan out 8)
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Old news...
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And yet great news
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And yet great news
Massive loss, Milligan is underrated, Holland his likely replacement is a gumby
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That Timmy Cahill goal was pretty special. :cheers :cheers :o :o
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That Timmy Cahill goal was pretty special. :cheers :cheers :o :o
How good was that! :bow :bow :bow
A shame that with that yellow card (nice shirtfront Timmy :lol ) this may be his last World Cup game.
Credit to Ange as well. He's really done his homework on the Dutch and got the team playing to his plan of putting pressure on the Dutch back 3 and not allowing them cut through passes out of defence. The only times we've looked in danger is when we've turned the ball over in defensive midfield and been caught short of numbers backtracking defensively. That's how Robben scored. A lesson in being defensively alert even when you have the ball.
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2 stuffing 1 Come on!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :bow :bow
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That Timmy Cahill goal was pretty special. :cheers :cheers :o :o
How good was that! :bow :bow :bow
A shame that with that yellow card (nice shirtfront Timmy :lol ) this may be his last World Cup game.
Credit to Ange as well. He's really done his homework on the Dutch and got the team playing to his plan of putting pressure on the Dutch back 3 and not allowing them cut through passes out of defence. The only times we've looked in danger is when we've turned the ball over in defensive midfield and been caught short of numbers backtracking defensively. That's how Robben scored. A lesson in being defensively alert even when you have the ball.
Absolute cracker!!
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2-2. They've scored from both chances.
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2-3. 7 mins left. Can't believe the chances we wasted. Each resulting in a Dutch goal I think. :banghead
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Dutch always had it. No way they weren't going to be able crack our porous defence enough times to do the job. If we'd scored 3 they would've scored 4. Cat & Mouse like Geelong & Fremantle v Richmond.
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...and Matt Ryan's simply not up to this level. May as well have picked Liam Reddy.
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3 defensive mistakes and 3 Holland goals. That was why we lost. Both defences were poor but they had the class up front to take their chances while we didn't apart from that piece of magic from Timmy. That Oar/Leckie opportunity should've ended up in the back of the net to regain the lead and then we hand the Dutch the winner on the counter thanks to a keeper error.
Proud of the Socceroos and they way they have played for most of both games (credit to Ange) but they've learnt some harsh lessons in this World Cup. Hopefully for the young guys which make up the bulk of the squad it'll be valuable lessons for Russia in 4 years time.
As for Timmy - thanks for the World Cup memories :bow :clapping. If Spain beats Chile we still have a chance to finish second in the group :o but with Cahill missing and our back 4 frailties, it's extreme wishful thinking.
...and Matt Ryan's simply not up to this level. May as well have picked Liam Reddy.
Yep, Langerak is the best Aussie keeper.
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Reigning Champ Spain has just lost 2-1 to Chile :o ;D
This is likely to be my only post in this thread ;D
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That goal of Cahill's was unfreakinbelievable. What skills!
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Timmy Marco van bastan Cahill :bow
And yet great news
Massive loss, Milligan is underrated, Holland his likely replacement is a gumby
Nup he's a potato
Poor mans Leigh Broxham
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You'd expect big ish clubs to look at Davidson leckie types now
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That Timmy Cahill goal was pretty special. :cheers :cheers :o :o
How good was that! :bow :bow :bow
A shame that with that yellow card (nice shirtfront Timmy :lol ) this may be his last World Cup game.
Credit to Ange as well. He's really done his homework on the Dutch and got the team playing to his plan of putting pressure on the Dutch back 3 and not allowing them cut through passes out of defence. The only times we've looked in danger is when we've turned the ball over in defensive midfield and been caught short of numbers backtracking defensively. That's how Robben scored. A lesson in being defensively alert even when you have the ball.
What a tackle!
Went thou the prick like a steam train
ARE U WATCHING GRIGG? proabley playing with hampsons car and gladwrap instead
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Told yas we'd handle ourselves well and not get embarrassed :cheers
Shattered in that all 3 goals we copped were dumb - the first was a bad pass from Bresc, the second Davidson made a school boy error and the 3rd was Ryans stuff up. So proud of how they played - we've got some poo luck with injuries yet we are still performing - if Ange had had another 6 months we'd have bloody well made it through this group.
Leckie and davidson have stepped up - Cahill is the greatest socceroo ever (even if hes not the most gifted(Harry Kewell) hes our greatest), Spira is going to be a real player, Halloran showed a bit and should start over Oar - Bozanic I liked what I saw
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A fit Robbie Kruse, Tom Rogic and Rhys Williams. Would have shaken things up
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That Timmy Cahill goal was pretty special. :cheers :cheers :o :o
How good was that! :bow :bow :bow
A shame that with that yellow card (nice shirtfront Timmy :lol ) this may be his last World Cup game.
Credit to Ange as well. He's really done his homework on the Dutch and got the team playing to his plan of putting pressure on the Dutch back 3 and not allowing them cut through passes out of defence. The only times we've looked in danger is when we've turned the ball over in defensive midfield and been caught short of numbers backtracking defensively. That's how Robben scored. A lesson in being defensively alert even when you have the ball.
What a tackle!
Went thou the prick like a steam train
ARE U WATCHING GRIGG? proabley playing with hampsons car and gladwrap instead
Killed him :cheers
(http://i.imgur.com/O1nzO0Q.png)
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Someone has too much time on their hands lol. The LEGO version of Timmy Cahill's wonder strike!
https://vine.co/v/MTAbg2HULbr
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Everything is awesome.
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http://giant.gfycat.com/RedElderlyIndochinesetiger.gif
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Someone has too much time on their hands lol. The LEGO version of Timmy Cahill's wonder strike!
https://vine.co/v/MTAbg2HULbr
:lol
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Someone has too much time on their hands lol. The LEGO version of Timmy Cahill's wonder strike!
https://vine.co/v/MTAbg2HULbr
That was Magic OE. great find. :thumbsup
At least the FIFA Fascists can't take it off the air as a violation of their broadcast rights like they have done for nearly every youtube video of Tim Cahill's Goal. :scream
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England out of the World Cup :lol.
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Costa Rica :clapping Always love seeing a minnow come from the clouds - who'da thunk it?
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back home and what an unbelievable experience it was.
We left the day after the Dutch game and i was spent after that day. The most amazing build up and no matter how many other games you see including the other Germany Portugal one i saw nothing compares to your own country in a world cup, and to see such a great game like that. Incredible.
Whilst Russia may not be a pure soccer country like your Brasil's, Argentinas, Italy etc etc i urge you if you can to go and follow the Aussies or at least fly over from your native greece or italy and pinch a game or 2, do it i know i will be.
One of the best sporting days i've had in my life
http://youtu.be/LC-AgiwH1Xs
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Go to Brazilto get sway from tigers being shyte
Coo it for sAustralia being shyte
Poor bugger
negative mate.
we showed more heart than the RFC have showed in 30 years. Nothing but admiration for those blokes. The dutch were on the ropes in the first.
Cahill, Leckie, Bresch vrs Hampson, Edwards and A Edwards, you do the math.
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http://youtu.be/Nv_Oc9bl4xY
Copacabana beach. When Brasil are playing its a public holiday and its one big party for hundreds and hundreds of metres. You cant move unless you get in 3 hours earlier.
We had contingencies in place in the event they lost that game against Mexico, like run and run fast with 5 minutes to go.
The place was safe as houses i never saw no sign of trouble. That being said if Brasil lose and lose early in the cup i wouldnt want to be there. Now that i am home i hope they lose and Germany pull it off with Colombia as an upset. Outside of those guys i hope its a European winner, something i think has never happened in a cup played in that sth america.
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Someone has too much time on their hands lol. The LEGO version of Timmy Cahill's wonder strike!
https://vine.co/v/MTAbg2HULbr
That was Magic OE. great find. :thumbsup
At least the FIFA Fascists can't take it off the air as a violation of their broadcast rights like they have done for nearly every youtube video of Tim Cahill's Goal. :scream
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v79/leaper/timmy.gif)
http://smg.photobucket.com/user/leaper/media/timmy.gif.html
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Eat poo usa
If ronaldo is not going to defend he should play as the #9
Not wide
http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=SNjlKs5asJ0
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Big games tonight
No VP for the Dutch. I think those fantasy island chilenos will do a number on them and top the table. Hope not don't care for any Sth American team
Can't believe they were paying 6/1 against the spaniards and I didn't take it
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3nil
That keeper has to go
His rubbish
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Aside from the the first 10-15 mins of the first half when we moved the ball quickly and about the same in parts in the 2nd half, we were outclassed and given a lesson in skill, precision passing and controlling the game. We looked tired and jaded after the initial burst and kept turning the ball over in dangerous spots. We also really missed Timmy up forward. We never really troubled the Spanish keeper. This morning's game was more like what we expected going into the tournament. Too inexperienced overall, lacking class across the park and defensively very suspect.
As for that pitch :facepalm.
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Yeah Ryan's been terrible.
Missing Cahill and bresc was one too many class acts missing. You could resonably argue that even with a full strength golden generation we arent in the ballpark. Spain made 7 changes which is what i feared, hungry fringe players ready to make a statement and lets be reasonable spains fringe players are still world class and better technically than our best.
Ange went in with a 4-3-3 as opposed to a 4-2-3-1 and the lack of defensive midfield cover shielding our shaky defebce showed. Our defensive structure needs a lot of work which was expected.
I actually think that since Viduka retired we are shooting ourselves in the foot playing 1 striker - he was a class act the way he was able to hold the ball up and bring our 3 attacking mids into play, we dont have a player anywhere near that skillset now - horses for courses
We should go with a 3-5-2 and play 2 strikers. Dependng on the opposition that can be an attacking or defensive formation, and give us beef where we need it at this point in time, defensively and attacking line
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3nil
That keeper has to go
His rubbish
Won best keeper or young keeper in Belgium which is a good team and was a beast at Gosford. I didn't watch the game it i thought he didn't do a lot wrong in the first two games. The team as a whole defender poor. Not much Ryan could do.
That said Mitch langerak should be the #1
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I wouldn't write him off career wise, hes only 22 and as mentioned just won best keeper in Belgium this season - but he wa fairly poor this world cup
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Much needed reality check. Hopefully will put an end to all that laughable self-congratulation that took place in the wake of the first two matches. Was positively Richmond-like.
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Ange is building a good side for the future.
Given the 6-0 drubbings we were copping from Brazil and France back in September he did well to mould a new team with new players since then and leave Brazil with some sort of credibility for him and Aussie soccer.
I still think the Asian Cup next year is another stepping stone with qualification and getting through our group in 2018 is the primary focus. :thumbsup
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We'll smash home the Asia cup, bookmark it :cheers
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Club level success doesn't amount to country level success
He was poor esp the last 2 games
Italy out abs deservedly so, they played terrible in fact it was the worst game of the WC so far by a fair margin
Suarez is the dirtiest dog to ever play the game. Hope they bury the idiot at club level for his latest attack
He shouldn't play again at this WC
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We'll smash home the Asia cup, bookmark it :cheers
Japan or Korea imo
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Just saw the Suarez incident :facepalm
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Just saw the Suarez incident :facepalm
hope they ban the Mother F for 2 years
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We'll smash home the Asia cup, bookmark it :cheers
Postecoglou is a winner and its clear to everyone he has used the World Cup to blood the youngsters for a serious tilt at winning the Asian Cup.
In other news ... Greece goes through to the last 16 and they didnt even park the bus in the last game. Absolutely outplayed the Ivory Coast and the Greeks should have scored at least 3 more times IMHO. Great win though.
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We'll smash home the Asia cup, bookmark it :cheers
Postecoglou is a winner and its clear to everyone he has used the World Cup to blood the youngsters for a serious tilt at winning the Asian Cup.
In other news ... Greece goes through to the last 16 and they didnt even park the bus in the last game. Absolutely outplayed the Ivory Coast and the Greeks should have scored at least 3 more times IMHO. Great win though.
good on em Ramps, Lonsdale st will be going off.
Winnable game against Costa Rica coming up. Could be through to the quarters.
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We'll smash home the Asia cup, bookmark it :cheers
Postecoglou is a winner and its clear to everyone he has used the World Cup to blood the youngsters for a serious tilt at winning the Asian Cup.
In other news ... Greece goes through to the last 16 and they didnt even park the bus in the last game. Absolutely outplayed the Ivory Coast and the Greeks should have scored at least 3 more times IMHO. Great win though.
good on em Ramps, Lonsdale st will be going off.
Winnable game against Costa Rica coming up. Could be through to the quarters.
ELLAS ELLAS ELLAS :thumbsup
Winnable game against Costa Rica.
Winner plays winner of Holland and Mexico.
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was a great performance, like you said Ramps, we didn't just park the bus, had a crack and deserved to win. Should be able to beat Costa Rica and then after that park the bus ;D
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Hellas
Hellas
Hellas
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Lol Greek coach
Skata botuis malaka
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Greeks had their chances with CR down to 10 men
Another European country down, spewing
Thank god for the Dutch
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Greeks had their chances with CR down to 10 men
Another European country down, spewing
Thank god for the Dutch
Yeah have to agree. If you have about an hour to find a second goal to win the game and you dont score against a team playing with 10 men then you dont deserve to win. CR goalkeeper saved everything, but thats sport, everyone lives on to fight another day.
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Greece ain't the word....
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Greeks had their chances with CR down to 10 men
Another European country down, spewing
Thank god for the Dutch
Hope the French can knock off Germany too. :thumbsup
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Football is a simple game; 22 men chase a ball for 90 minutes and at the end, the Germans win.
- Gary Lineker
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http://www.smh.com.au/fifa-world-cup-2014/world-cup-news-2014/chile-striker-mauricio-pinilla-gets-tattoo-of-nearmiss-against-brazil-20140702-zsssg.html
Wonder if Aaron Edwards has a tatt of his miss in the EF....or Derickx of his dropped mark in Cairns....
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Football is a simple game; 22 men chase a ball for 90 minutes and at the end, the Germans win.
- Gary Lineker
Means nothing now, given Germany have not won a World Cup since 1990 and a Euro since 1996 whilst France have won a World Cup and a Euro since then.
Germany still has an aura but not like they did. :thumbsup
Lineker was a great goal poacher but England would have to be the modt modern underachievers given their league their players and how it is perceived by them that it is almost a given for them to win any tournament they enter. Sounds much like English Cricket and Rugby. :lol :rollin :lol
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Greeks had their chances with CR down to 10 men
Another European country down, spewing
Thank god for the Dutch
Hope the French can knock off Germany too. :thumbsup
What a QF we have on our hands. Will go even betting by game day.
Hopefully Germany for mine. Wife was born there and have met some great people from there in my travels.
Love the French too and it's a shame Europe will lose another..
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Greeks had their chances with CR down to 10 men
Another European country down, spewing
Thank god for the Dutch
Hope the French can knock off Germany too. :thumbsup
What a QF we have on our hands. Will go even betting by game day.
Hopefully Germany for mine. Wife was born there and have met some great people from there in my travels.
Love the French too and it's a shame Europe will lose another..
I like both sides just think France can win. :thumbsup
For your sake Angus at least one of Brazil and Colombia will go leaving only the winner and Argentina in the competition. I give Colombia a huge chance to knock of the Brazilians with the winner of the France Germany quarter winning the semi also.
My tip for the whole thing is Argentina with either France or Germany as their opponent. :thumbsup
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Agreed, Colombia can and I bloody hope they do beat them.
The best team to watch by a country mile and their fans seem like a great bunch
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If Radamel Falcao was fit theyd have a crazy side
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Brazil paying a huge price with their win over Colombia with Neymar gone from the tournament with a cracked vertebrae and Thiago Silva suspended for their semi final clash with Germany.
Would have to say that Germany right now are favourites. Brazil look battered, bruised and uninspiring. Thankfully for Brazil David Luiz set piece was the difference.
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great goal. Il be honest i thought he was stalling the clock but i have not seen neymar play that way the whole tournament.
Its a shame he seems like a nice bloke who grew up in the slums with Luiz and Silva.
Silva also out Dom. Hope Germany smash em and line up against Dutch.
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Mentioned Thiago Silva was out suspended Angus.
Still think Argies will meet Germany in the final. Dutch have a few injury worries in the defensive midfield. Reckon Argentina will exploit that with Messi, Higuain and Aguero.
This World Cup is going to South America. :thumbsup
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Brazil have no shortage of cover with the like of Bernard willian Dante
The could play a 7th string 11 and they wouldn't be too shabby
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Brazil have no shortage of cover with the like of Bernard willian Dante
The could play a 7th string 11 and they wouldn't be too shabby
So could the Germans for that matter. They play like clockwork.
The 1st string Germans will beat the 2nd string Brazilians.
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So glad that Costa Rica are out
Playing for a draw was very boring to watch.
They would have done the same against Argentina
Argentina v Dutch, Germany v Brazil
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Brazil have no shortage of cover with the like of Bernard willian Dante
The could play a 7th string 11 and they wouldn't be too shabby
So could the Germans for that matter. They play like clockwork.
The 1st string Germans will beat the 2nd string Brazilians.
I saw somewhere a Brazilian 11 from each major city in brazil, several teams
- the equivalent of a Australian side from people only from Perth, Melbourne
And each one was rather strong , a few very much so
So glad that Costa Rica are out
Playing for a draw was very boring to watch.
They would have done the same against Argentina
Argentina v Dutch, Germany v Brazil
I had Belgium as the dark horse. Coach was shyte playing defensive full backs both of them natural center backs
and poor tatics in general. IMO. Would have loved to see them play a back 3, drop van buyten and have the balls to play
Adnan Januzaj.
No shame in losing to messi Argentina but
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Brazil have no shortage of cover with the like of Bernard willian Dante
The could play a 7th string 11 and they wouldn't be too shabby
:nope
They are copping an old fashion ass pumping in their own backyard and it's good to see to be honest
Couldn't cover the loss of those 2 it seems. Some of those defenders were like statues in those set pieces
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Deutschland, Deutschland über alles.
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Deutschland, Deutschland über alles.
bang!
all we need is Dutch to deliver the goods and its a european winner for the first time ever.
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So Sehn Sieger Aus (Scha La La La La)
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I've backed the Krauts in since the start. Didn't really mention it to anyone or claiming I know a thing or two as I'm not the biggest follower of the game but been growing on me heaps the past few years due to wog in laws. I've always enjoyed and followed the Bundesliga the most and when I saw blokes like Großkreutz, Götze, Draxler, Ginter etc can't crack the 11 I just thought that is some serious depth and sheer quality on the field.
Our family name is of Saxon viking heritage too so if I want to clutch at straws I can say Germany is my team after Aus (even though our family migrated here from south western England :lol :whistle)
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Gotze should get a gig instead of klose
If reus was fit and was playing in klose position they'd be unbelievable
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Gotze should get a gig instead of klose
If reus was fit and was playing in klose position they'd be unbelievable
:lol still not happy?
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I've backed the Krauts in since the start. Didn't really mention it to anyone or claiming I know a thing or two as I'm not the biggest follower of the game but been growing on me heaps the past few years due to wog in laws. I've always enjoyed and followed the Bundesliga the most and when I saw blokes like Großkreutz, Götze, Draxler, Ginter etc can't crack the 11 I just thought that is some serious depth and sheer quality on the field.
Our family name is of Saxon viking heritage too so if I want to clutch at straws I can say Germany is my team after Aus (even though our family migrated here from south western England :lol :whistle)
They are easily the most complete team at the world cup, they are just an awesome machine full of stars. ..and you're right abt the bundesliga :thumbsup
Germany v Holland is the final I want to see. Love the way both sides go about it
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Messi :shh
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Ze Germans are very efficient.
https://v.cdn.vine.co/r/videos/2350A740B91098402294506184704_2d5c7558432.1.0.6745795947523216433.mp4?versionId=nKxvXk6nmF9uUP4kxLBPD.gmje3Kc4_z
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Ironic that Brazil's worst ever defeat came at the hands of a side wearing the Flamengo strip.
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Headline on FSN just now - DON'T MENTION THE SCORE
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Deutschland, Deutschland über alles.
bang!
all we need is Dutch to deliver the goods and its a european winner for the first time ever.
I don't pretend to follow soccer, but I don't get this?
Wasnt Spain v Netherlands the last one?
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I assume they mean first European winner in a south american based world cup
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How would Brazil's 2nd or 3rd 11 gone today JR? :help
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Dante is a world class defender and Bernard was transferd for 50oddmill as a teenager
Reckon brazil 2 eleven pretty bloody good. Would have gone better than first 11
Fred and the keeper i doubt in the best ten Brazilians forntheir respective position s
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Reckon Germans would have annihilated any Brazilian 11 today.
They played with such precision and to do it on their home soil, simply awesome.
They were the first European country to beat South American opposition in a World Cup Final and chances are they may beat Argentina again in a Final to be the first European country to win the World Cup on South American soil.
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lets remove Messi for a minute, the argentinian football side if they win will be one of the most average teams to ever win a world cup. they played rubbish against Bosnia and Iran and provided not much else in any of their other games.
Lets hope Germany teach them a lesson.
On another note lucky i left this joint and honestly you would have to be stupid to stay around for the last few matches in a country like that.
First few weeks everyone's happy, friends and hugging. Last few days, mayhem. Imagine if they hold one in Colombia and they get bundled out early.
http://www.smh.com.au/fifa-world-cup-2014/world-cup-news-2014/world-cup-2014-australians-flee-copacabana-as-gunshots-fired-after-brazil-loss-20140709-zt1cs.html
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All World Cups should be held in England and all Summer Olympics should be held in Greece.
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lets remove Messi for a minute, the argentinian football side if they win will be one of the most average teams to ever win a world cup. they played rubbish against Bosnia and Iran and provided not much else in any of their other games.
Lets hope Germany teach them a lesson.
On another note lucky i left this joint and honestly you would have to be stupid to stay around for the last few matches in a country like that.
First few weeks everyone's happy, friends and hugging. Last few days, mayhem. Imagine if they hold one in Colombia and they get bundled out early.
http://www.smh.com.au/fifa-world-cup-2014/world-cup-news-2014/world-cup-2014-australians-flee-copacabana-as-gunshots-fired-after-brazil-loss-20140709-zt1cs.html
Mascherano is class.
Is di maria going to play?
Messi go past mardonna Pele etc. If they win?
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lets remove Messi for a minute, the argentinian football side if they win will be one of the most average teams to ever win a world cup. they played rubbish against Bosnia and Iran and provided not much else in any of their other games.
Lets hope Germany teach them a lesson.
On another note lucky i left this joint and honestly you would have to be stupid to stay around for the last few matches in a country like that.
First few weeks everyone's happy, friends and hugging. Last few days, mayhem. Imagine if they hold one in Colombia and they get bundled out early.
http://www.smh.com.au/fifa-world-cup-2014/world-cup-news-2014/world-cup-2014-australians-flee-copacabana-as-gunshots-fired-after-brazil-loss-20140709-zt1cs.html
Mascherano is class.
Is di maria going to play?
Messi go past mardonna Pele etc. If they win?
No not yet you judge when a players career is over and even then all three played in different era's.
Messi has to win the World Cup on his own like Maradona did in 1986 to be considered.
Pele though pound for pound had better players around him. Brazil won 3 from 4 from 1958-70.
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what he said ^^
but i'll chime in and say maradona is by far the best Ive ever seen - not even close
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in the three seasons from 10-11, 11-12, 12-13
messi scored 53, 73, 60 times
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q38AOlVJ5Ps
pretty handy
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Messi hasn't set a World Cup on fire like the aforementioned Maradona and Pele.
Handy but not in same league.
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fair enough. he has carried a poor Argentina to the final (four goals one assist)
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Maradona did not only carry but lit the World Cup in 1986.
Maradona carried one might argue the most poor Argentina who as a team only scored 5 goals in the whole tournament to the final in 1990.
This discussion is pointless Maradona>Messi. :yep
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if he wins 2018 world cup (will be 31 years old) will be interesting discussion
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Let him contribute greatly to a win against Germany on Monday then we can wait for 2018.
Comparing players should be done when their careers are over. :yep
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yep and JR its not as if I(we) don't rate Messi - imo best player in the world easily and best of his generation. But has a ways to go yet.
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Best >Garrincha>Maradona>Pele>Eusebio> Cruyff>Messi
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Im glad someone else mentioned Garrincha, nice one dioc - Maradona himself said he idolised Garrincha and was the best player he had ever seen(after himself of course) ;D
for mine - maradona - pele - Garrincha - Cruyff - Messi
next tier Beckenbauer, Zidane, Gullit, Platini - Eusebio - Best
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You could put a few Brazilians there. Rivellino would definintely be in the top drawer and in a second tier Zico and Socrates.
Pele is football, didn't see him play but Maradona is king.
Sadly the champ has let himself go but that's what you get with flawed geniuses.
Gert Muller, Jack Charlton, Dino Zoff, Roberto Baggio, Ronaldo, Romario would be up there too.
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Mascherano has an anus injury :lol
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0/0
Argos will score soon enough
Germans are baffled
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Come on Krauts, I have to go to work.
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Yyeeeeessssss!
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Bang!!!!! What a goal. Deutschland best team in the tourno won
Argentina no worries
Messi better than Maradona. Negative..
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Mario is German messi but
http://www.fifa.com/world-match-centre/news/newsid/148/839/5/index.html
(http://i.imgur.com/LxqrbVC.png)
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you gotta feel for the guy working alone, but unfortunately if your not first your last in this competition.
Super Mario will be finishing first tonight with that girl of his
Gee whiz what a thing of beauty
Take a look judge.
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No Reus or Bender? No worries! Now because I have a German family name I am going to carry on like they're my own ;D :cheers
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No Reus or Bender? No worries! Now because I have a German family name I am going to carry on like they're my own ;D :cheers
hahahaha ditto :thumbsup
i think i'm more excited than my in laws.
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(http://i.imgur.com/TyPMzVS.png)
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I know it was only a friendly but a great effort by the Socceroos last night, minus Timmy Cahill, to finish 2-2 with Germany.
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minus Cahill, Kruse, Spiranovic, Luongo and Sainsbury.
Germany weren't at full strength but they have a replacement "second 11 players" worth about 3-400million euros, that 2nd eleven has 11 players that would walk staright into the socceroos side.
Results mean poo all at friendly level, have said it from day dot when we were losing games early under Ange, its what you get out of the games, ie playing style, finding new squad players etc. Regardless of the result today, we would've taken a lot out of the game. If Leckie learns to score, he'll be world class, unstoppable when he's rampaging like that
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I know that we're probably only ever going to be a decent middleweight, but it feels like Ange is building something that is going to go bang in a big way and put Australia on the map.
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I know that we're probably only ever going to be a decent middleweight, but it feels like Ange is building something that is going to go bang in a big way and put Australia on the map.
Leaving out Timmy, the bulk of the current Socceroos squad has at least the next two World Cups in them. Most Soccer players don't peak until they're around 30, so it won't surprise me if we're an even better side for Qatar 2022 or wherever or whatever time it is held, compared to Russia 2018.
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Australia's World Cup 2018 second round qualifying draw
11 June 2015 BYE
16 June 2015 Kyrgyzstan v Socceroos (away– venue and time tbc)
3 September 2015 Socceroos v Bangladesh at nib Stadium, Perth. 7pm (AWT) kick off
8 September 2015 Tajikstan v Socceroos (away– venue and time tbc)
8 October 2015 Jordan v Socceroos (away– venue and time tbc)
13 October 2015 BYE
12 November 2015 Socceroos v Kyrgyzstan (home– venue and time tbc)
17 November 2015 Bangladesh v Socceroos (away– venue and time tbc)
24 March 2016 Socceroos v Tajikstan (home– venue and time tbc)
29 March 2016 Socceroos v Jordan (home– venue and time tbc)
* Please note venues and kick off times are to be confirmed, except where noted above
Groups:
Group A: UAE, Saudi Arabia, Palestine, Timor Leste, Malaysia
Group B: Australia, Jordan, Tajikstan, Kyrgyzstan, Bangladesh
Group C: China, Qatar, Maldives, Bhutan, Hong Kong
Group D: Iran, Oman, India, Turkmenistan, Guam
Group E: Japan, Syria, Afghanistan, Singapore, Cambodia
Group F: Iraq, Vietnam, Thailand, Indonesia, Chinese Taipei
Group G: Korea Republic, Kuwait, Lebanon, Myanmar, Laos
Group H: Uzbekistan, Bahrain, Philippines, Yemen, DPR Korea
http://www.theage.com.au/sport/soccer/socceroos-handed-comfortable-start-on-the-road-to-russia-2018-20150414-1ml5j6.html
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Group B: Australia, Jordan, Tajikstan, Kyrgyzstan, Bangladesh
should pull the finger out and start winning 7/8-0
like the good old days of Oceania
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Well done to the Matildas on making the knockout stage of the World Cup.
A good night too for the Socceroos. They didn't play that well but got the three points away to Kyrgyzstan 2-1.
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So anyone following the Matildykes?
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Just the one that pals cricket too
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Matildas lost to Japan 1-0 in their qtr final this morning
Disappointing it was a late goal
But fantastic effort by the ladies
Now Mr Lowy & FFA pay them some decent coin rather than a pathetic $600 a game.
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(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CN-tZZOUAAAjq9k.jpg)
Given we were 4-0 up within half an hour, it was a pretty meh performance for the rest of the game against a minnow where the ball rarely crossed the halfway line into Australia's defensive half.
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At least for half an hour Mooy would have stopped looking like he's about to cry.
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5-0 was a disappointing scoreline but very happy to see Rogic back and injury free, Ikonomidis will be a star, there is some serious talent coming through
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Socceroos lost in Jordan 0 - 2.
A 47th minute penalty and a late conceded goal due to pushing for an equaliser.
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The Joeys have snuck into the knockout stage of the U17's World Cup as one of the best 3rd placed sides. Play Nigeria in the round of 16 and if they get through that then they'll most likely have to face Brazil in the quarters.
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The Joeys have snuck into the knockout stage of the U17's World Cup as one of the best 3rd placed sides. Play Nigeria in the round of 16 and if they get through that then they'll most likely have to face Brazil in the quarters.
Nigeria are a high seed I'd be guessing?
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U would be backing Nigeria
Seeing as everyone is 24 years old
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The Joeys have snuck into the knockout stage of the U17's World Cup as one of the best 3rd placed sides. Play Nigeria in the round of 16 and if they get through that then they'll most likely have to face Brazil in the quarters.
Nigeria are a high seed I'd be guessing?
The answer is definitely yes after the Nigerians put 6 past the Joeys yesterday morning :help. Back to reality it seems after the surprise win over Argentina.
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The Joeys have snuck into the knockout stage of the U17's World Cup as one of the best 3rd placed sides. Play Nigeria in the round of 16 and if they get through that then they'll most likely have to face Brazil in the quarters.
Nigeria are a high seed I'd be guessing?
The answer is definitely yes after the Nigerians put 6 past the Joeys yesterday morning :help. Back to reality it seems after the surprise win over Argentina.
but how many Nigerians were under 17? :whistle
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The win over Argentina wasn't close to what it was spruiked as.
Argies lost all 3 games and finished with 1 goal for and 8 against.
Put simply, we were the only game where the Argies came close.
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U would be backing Nigeria
Seeing as everyone is 24 years old
They're also a soccer loving country with the 7th biggest population in the world. Hard to argue with.
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...also one of the most notoriously corrupt....
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U would be backing Nigeria
Seeing as everyone is 24 years old
They're also a soccer loving country with the 7th biggest population in the world. Hard to argue with.
that continually claim that 22 years olds are 14, with a armory of fake birth certificates
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http://mobile.abc.net.au/news/2015-11-04/police-raid-german-soccer-association-over-alleged-tax-evasion/6910084
(https://encrypted-tbn1.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcR_pQA4yG27I8CHNVBmSeMJ6ORKvk2kWltt_gaYNcUvu0Pm8EYl-A)
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Strong side on paper.
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Back to league one for the left back boo
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KGZ play as agricultural as their economy.
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Take 3-0 win but sheesh we could have put at least half-a-dozen past them as the game was one-way traffic played in one half. The only decent Kyrgyzstan player was the goalie with some nice saves. Mooy B.O.G. for us followed by Timmy :bow.
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KGZ play as agricultural as their economy.
malnourished looking dudes
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Timmy :bow :bow :bow
Watch his second goal. At first it looks like some scrambled goal you'd see in a U10s game, but when you watch the replay closely, Cahill sees the Bangladeshi goalkeeper about to dive on the ball and he cleverly taps the ball on the ground to get it to bounce above the oncoming goalie so he can sidekick it into the back of the net :clapping.
Jordan lost to Kyrgyzstan, so we're back on top of the group with our last two games at home in March. The last one is against Jordan which will most likely decide the group winner.
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we should be beating these crappy soviet/asian countries 7/8-0
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I like lugugo (sp?)
Mooy
Rogic
In te same side
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Robbin Kruze has been assaulted from directly behind from the Jordanian scum
Yellow card
Wtf
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https://gfycat.com/ThornyBrokenAnkolewatusi
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Robbin Kruze has been assaulted from directly behind from the Jordanian scum
Yellow card
Wtf
Disgusting tackle, relieved he was fine
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Hopefully, Kruse is okay. Great game from Robbie btw. He set up the first 3 goals.
We find out the two third-round groups on April 12. We're currently seeded 6th in Asia according to the FIFA ranking :huh3.
Iran, Japan, South Korea, Saudi Arabia, UAE, Australia, Uzbekistan, Qatar, Iraq, China, Thailand, Syria.
I still think we'll make it anyway but we'll be hoping to avoid being in the same group as two of Iran, Japan and Korea.
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Did any one hear timmy speak to bosnich and co. After the game?
He's either on pills, or has an incredible amount of passion
Given his fitness (and a lack of very good australian players) he will still be our #9 in th world cup
Fifa rankings are one o the great jokes on gods green earth
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How the stuff can the reigning Asian champions be seeded 6th?
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How the stuff can the reigning Asian champions be seeded 6th?
+1
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How the stuff can the reigning Asian champions be seeded 6th?
+1
We don't play enough friendlies and tournaments compared to other countries that the stupid FIFA ranking system relies on.
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The Socceroos have jumped up to second in Asia in the latest FIFA rankings:
THE Socceroos have reached their FIFA ranking in four years, rising 17 places to 50 on the latest table.
It places Australia second in Asia behind Iran (42) ahead of the next World Cup qualifcation draw as the Socceroos have jumped past South Korea (56), Japan (57) and Saudi Arabia (60) in the past month.
http://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/football/socceroos-move-into-fifa-top-50-for-first-time-since-2012-after-world-cup-successes/news-story/41d2eb2a28e69055c8bfeae9d24a309c
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The latest update to the FIFA rankings just prior to third round WC qualifier groupings did us a huge favour. We've avoided Iran and South Korea, and really only have Japan as the biggest threat in our group with the top 2 in each group automatically qualifying for the World Cup.
Group B: Australia, Japan, Saudi Arabia, UAE, Iraq, Thailand.
1 September 2016 Australia v Iraq
6 September 2016 United Arab Emirates v Australia
6 October 2016 Saudi Arabia v Australia
11 October 2016 Australia v Japan
15 November 2016 Thailand v Australia
23 March 2017 Iraq v Australia
28 March 2017 Australia v United Arab Emirates
8 June 2017 Australia v Saudi Arabia
31 August 2017 Japan v Australia
5 September 2017 Australia v Thailand
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Newcastle u15
Best the australian women's team
7-0
Edit: may have been 8-2 upon further research
5th bests ladies team on earth v the best 14 year olds the hunter valley can muster
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Rogic is a gun. Leckie's exposure to regular Bundesliga time is paying off too.
Smith was a deadset liability, just not his night. Jedinak has tapered off a bit, hopefully just due to off season and can tell Kruse hasn't played a lot in recent times since his injury. What's the go with our CBs at the moment? Milligan playing there. He was awesome though. Mooy, Luongo and Rogic through the mid is pretty good to watch, so many well threaded through balls.
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Agree with that summation dwaino. Milligan is a gun whether it be in midfield or as a ball playing CB, reads the game so well. Its pretty much horses for courses. Depending on the opposition - If we go back to a 4-2-3-1/4-3-3 then Milligan partners Jedinak in defensive midfield and Spiranovic comes into central defence. I got the feeling that we looked a little scratchy, our ball control wasnt crisp, I lost count of the amount of time our players couldnt seem to shield the ball, the Iraqis seemed to get a spoiling foot in so often. Good signs overall though.
UAE beating japan in japan is a huge result, dangerous opponent.
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Never liked Milligan cause bein a SYD player - but he is indeed a class act
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Agree with that summation dwaino. Milligan is a gun whether it be in midfield or as a ball playing CB, reads the game so well. Its pretty much horses for courses. Depending on the opposition - If we go back to a 4-2-3-1/4-3-3 then Milligan partners Jedinak in defensive midfield and Spiranovic comes into central defence. I got the feeling that we looked a little scratchy, our ball control wasnt crisp, I lost count of the amount of time our players couldnt seem to shield the ball, the Iraqis seemed to get a spoiling foot in so often. Good signs overall though.
UAE beating japan in japan is a huge result, dangerous opponent.
Was thinking the same regarding the formation after I wrote it. Probably didn't see the need to play two lumbering CBs against a quicker and more aggressive Iraq. I don't mind playing narrow, our mids are class and were chopping up defenses but thought the post game analysis made a great point, for whatever reason our full backs weren't pushing up. Whether that's work rate or instruction, too often our last pass into the final third as wasted when there were paddocks for our full backs to run into and send it wide and retaining possession instead of turning it over like we were.
Don't know about you as you've been into it a lot longer than me but I'm pretty bullish about this team and our future as a football country. We have a lot of players in strong leagues now and some genuine class. Obviously still don't hold a candle to the heavy weights but we have some really classy players now even to the bench.
Hopefully just some cobwebs since most of the guys haven't been playing. I reckon Japan have lost their mojo of late. They weren't that convincing last WC, looked to be doing it tough in the Asian Cup (granted Kagawa would have made a massive difference though) and now towelled up by UAE. Not taking anything away from UAE at all but hopefully them having to travel back from Japan to play as well will even it out a bit. Our toughest challenge will be complacency which IMO we are still prone too.
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You're not wrong.
Individually this team doesnt have the class of previous teams imo,
Kewell is still the best ever aussie Ive seen,
Viduka was world class,
Okon and Zelic both world class too.
Bosnich was a top 3 keeper in the world before he started racking em up,, Cahill needs no plaudits.
Aurelio Vidmar was a star in Spain and like Cahill had a special 6th sense of ghosting into the box late from midfield to score goals.
But our overall squad now is the easily best we've ever had in terms of depth and evenness, reckon Ange has a solid core of 25 players he can rely on. We also put a lot more work into training camps which = better cohesiveness and of course I love Ange reckon he is an absolute guru. This side will do some serious damage at the next world cup, we're still short a deadset gun number 9(central striker) but these days you can get away with it when you have a potent and creative all round attack like we are developing with Rogic, leckie, kruse, Mooy, ikonomidis etc all interchanging and giving us quick smart movement. Also should mention that rogic has the talent to be a bonafide genuine world class player, stuffing gun!
Hope you're right about japan, i havent taken much notice of them so not sure whats going on exactly. If we can get a result in UAE and bank points early it takes so much pressure off
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Think they were a bit scratchy last night, too many missed passes and errors. Our problem is still up front as leckie and juric are not the answer unfortunately. Our midfield in mooy luongo and rogic is classy though.
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Bosnich and co put massive tickets on Rogic last night. Said he could become our best ever Socceroo and first actual out and out superstar.
Wasn't long ago everyone was saying he should come back to the A League for minutes but he persisted at Celtic and now he's starting and starring. Actually going to try and watch him in CL, that will be the true test.
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He's a special talent no doubt about it. I was hoping he'd move to a better league but one more season for Celtic and CL exposure will be good for him.
Kewell was a genuine rising star of world soccer.
Have a look at these clips, not so much the goals which were crackers but his movement, skill pace, could play central striker, left wing, number 10, strong in the air, was a freak... and this was all before he was 21-22 when he started getting groin issues
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cI-O--Qy-dg (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cI-O--Qy-dg)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dyhpIpTXPpk (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dyhpIpTXPpk)
Im trying to find the clip of him doing a rebona cross in full flight, from memory dukes headed it over the bar but stuff me that was magic
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Cahill's winner came from one of the best crosses I have ever seen. No one broke stride, it curved and dropped perfectly and no one was ever going to save it.
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Bout time they found a left back
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What are they gonna do when Timmay goes to the retirement home?
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pfft he'll play till hes 45 - come on for 5 mins bang gol 8)
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Keep dragging him out Weekend at Bernie's style.
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Agree with that summation dwaino. Milligan is a gun whether it be in midfield or as a ball playing CB, reads the game so well. Its pretty much horses for courses. Depending on the opposition - If we go back to a 4-2-3-1/4-3-3 then Milligan partners Jedinak in defensive midfield and Spiranovic comes into central defence. I got the feeling that we looked a little scratchy, our ball control wasnt crisp, I lost count of the amount of time our players couldnt seem to shield the ball, the Iraqis seemed to get a spoiling foot in so often. Good signs overall though.
UAE beating japan in japan is a huge result, dangerous opponent.
Was thinking the same regarding the formation after I wrote it. Probably didn't see the need to play two lumbering CBs against a quicker and more aggressive Iraq. I don't mind playing narrow, our mids are class and were chopping up defenses but thought the post game analysis made a great point, for whatever reason our full backs weren't pushing up. Whether that's work rate or instruction, too often our last pass into the final third as wasted when there were paddocks for our full backs to run into and send it wide and retaining possession instead of turning it over like we were.
Don't know about you as you've been into it a lot longer than me but I'm pretty bullish about this team and our future as a football country. We have a lot of players in strong leagues now and some genuine class. Obviously still don't hold a candle to the heavy weights but we have some really classy players now even to the bench.
Hopefully just some cobwebs since most of the guys haven't been playing. I reckon Japan have lost their mojo of late. They weren't that convincing last WC, looked to be doing it tough in the Asian Cup (granted Kagawa would have made a massive difference though) and now towelled up by UAE. Not taking anything away from UAE at all but hopefully them having to travel back from Japan to play as well will even it out a bit. Our toughest challenge will be complacency which IMO we are still prone too.
Leckie is bossing bayern m currently
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Half time
Mighty fc ingolstadt 04
1
Bm 1
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Big game tonight against japan, win it and you could just about say we're almost home. A loss brings us right back to the pack.
Reckon it will be a belter although I am a bit concerned with how our defensive structure has looked in recent games
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Japs are scary - kagawa Honda
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Godzilla.
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The Fox crew the other night echoed what I have been saying about Japan not being in great form, but the big thing tonight is they've already dropped a game and will be hungry.
Is Kagawa playing? Has been off the bench a few times already for Dortmund so I don't think he is fully tuned up but he will be deadly with Honda and Endo (assuming they're playing too). Hope our back 4 are ready because I can see those guys splitting them.
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Right back? What right back? We don't have no right back!
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We look shagged.
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Yep pathetic defending and looking clueless as the japs park the bus and look to pick us off on the break. Ange needs to tell sainsbury he's not beckenbauer and start playing simple balls - muppet
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Giannou and Juric in the same side? Never again. Need more mobility up front against this mob
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Need to attack those Japanese banks, break them up. Our best chance is on the counter yet the few chances we had we stalled the attack. Ange obsessed playing narrow but it's not going to happen today.
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I've played so much FIFA and football manager that Bosnich and Aloisi are just repeating everything I say. Do you think Fox would accept my credentials?
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They have nothing on your special comments :cheers
Switch to a 4-3-3 bring on Leckie and kruse players that can run and interchange to break them up, also doesn't hurt to play a few long balls over the top as they are squeezing space, they'll start second guessing and gaps will start appearing
Or plan B - bring on Timmy
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McGowan is seriously a liability at RB
FHO!
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Would love to blood Geria at RB for Socceroos. I know it's a massive step up from A League and Ollyroos but that's his natural position. He also has pace and plays it like the wingbacks in the Euro comps. Smith on one side, Geria on the other and can both overlap with the wingers.
Cahill is our ace but would love to know where our goals come from beyond him lol. I'd have brought on Leckie over Kruse as he has been killing it for Ingolstadt and reckon Cahill will come on for Juric.
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Come on Timmy, be the hero, because on Saturday you will be the foe ;D
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Come on Timmy, be the hero, because on Saturday you will be the foe ;D
:clapping
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Brad Smith has gone up a gear.
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Leckie!!!
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Love Matthew Leckie but hasn't given us that injection I was hoping for.
Maybe a bit late for him at 83 mins?
Perhaps should have won it after the Pen we looked good through the guts.
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Yep came on too late. If Ange was serious about re-jigging he should have brought on both Kruse and Leckie at the start of the second half. We had them on the ropes by the end and would have broken through. In the end I'll take the point, should be a win next against Thailand and we should be able to cruise through the rest of qualification.
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I completely forgot about Gersbach who can come in at RB.
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Juric is a waste. We have no strikers. Just play Timmy from the start. Kruse also.
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+1
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In the end I think we were a touch lucky to get the point, don't think that was a penalty either but Juric did the right thing and went down like he'd been shot.
I've never had much time for Juric but i thought he showed some signs last night, looked a lot sharper than I've ever seen him, with a bit more space some of the turns wouldve torched Japan. Wherever he is playing now agrees with him, he's improving. Giannou looked like a bit of a donkey last night, i missed the starting lineup and noticed him for the first time around the 25th minute mark.
We have Thailand and Iraq away next 2 games, must get 6 points - Iraq away will be very tricky
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Yep pathetic defending and looking clueless as the japs park the bus and look to pick us off on the break. Ange needs to tell sainsbury he's not beckenbauer and start playing simple balls - muppet
:lol
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I admit to not being a soccer fan or having a great understanding of the game
But going by the news reports this morning....
The Socceroos have done their very best impression of the Aust Cricket team without actually losing
Mark Bosnich described it has pathetic
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It was putrid, glad I went to bed instead of watching the whole thing. Ange has always said how much he values game time over just picking players by their team or league but the persistence with Kruse is a contradiction. Spent a while injured but has struggled to play any minutes for Leverkusen since when we've got guys like Amini who might look funny but are actually playing well and getting quality game time with their club. With so long until the next international block last night was a great opportunity gone to put the best side on the park and really belt up opposition and getting a valuable 3 points and a handy goal differential. Our current roster and game plan won't hold up in the world cup and we would be quite the embarrassment.
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The Socceroos have now dropped to third in the group after Thursday night's shocker against Iraq. Lucky to get away with a draw in the end. If we don't beat the UAE on Tuesday night at home then we open the door to missing out on even qualifying :-\.
Saudi Arabia 13 ... directly qualify for WC
Japan 13 ... directly qualify for WC
Australia 10 ... have to beat 3rd placed in other Asian group and then 4th placed Concacaf (North American) to qualify for WC.
UAE 9
Iraq 4
Thailand 1
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Mt can you please put up the remaining games in round for Aussies, Japan and Saudi
If we win Tuesday that puts us equal second but do the others have a game in hand?
Could it be that ange's mind ain't on the job. A few of our players just haven't developed under him.
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Postecoglou's way out of his depth at this level - a local coach was never going to be up to it.
Watch the A-League completely die in the arse if we don't qualify........ :shh
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Two ignorant comments above
He's way out of his depth at this level but somehow managed to win an Asian Cup :lol 20 years ago local coaches didn't have what it took, now they do.
Unfortunately it's a lack of talent, it's not up to Ange or any national manager to 'develop' players, when we won the Asian cup that side was just theoretically entering its prime, but when players are moving to china and the Middle East for money over quality, the development and improvement will stall. Ange needs to grow a pair and stop picking players that stuff their careers up by leaving good leagues chasing the dollar. Example is Trent Sainsbury, that bloke has all the tools to be an elite defender in world football, pace, reads the game well, good on the ball and strong in the air, he was dominating in holland in his early 20's then moved to China has stalled and if anything gone backwards the last few years, now loaned to Inter in serie A but hasn't seen any game time. Has made some stupid choices. Spiranovic same thing I think he's playing his trade in div 2 China? This is a guy that was starting in the bundesliga at 18! They are our 2 best defenders and both aren't being picked by Ange bc they're horribly out of form. Add to that a lack of quality at left and right back as well as a severe lack of talent in the central striker role and it really is no surprise that we're not firing.
We'll qualify I'm still confident of that but problems that were small a few years back bc you felt that in time we'd introduce new talent have suddenly escalated bc we're still lacking in those 3 positions without a real prospect in sight as well as the fact we now have a massive hole in the centre of defence.
Or you can just say the coach is way out of his league
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Mt can you please put up the remaining games in round for Aussies, Japan and Saudi
If we win Tuesday that puts us equal second but do the others have a game in hand?
All three games are tomorrow night. You'd expect the Saudis and Japanese to win, so a win to us would keep us in 3rd spot in our group.
March 28 Aus vs UAE Japan vs Thailand Saudi Arabia vs Iraq.
June 8-13 Aus vs Saudi Arabia Thailand vs UAE Iraq vs Japan
Aug 31 Japan vs Aus Thailand vs Iraq UAE vs Saudi Arabia
Sep 5 Aus vs Thailand Iraq vs UAE Saudi Arabia vs Japan
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2018_FIFA_World_Cup_qualification_%E2%80%93_AFC_Third_Round#Group_B
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2-0 comfortable win but still need to improve.
The good:
We did look a lot better with Milligan in midfield, Sainsbury in defence and smith out wide over Kruse. Leckie still needs to learn how to play his position defensively but offensively, cant fault him. Irvine is a gun, has that innate ability to make late runs and score like Timmy used to do when he was a midfielder back in the day. Troisi added much needed spark in attack also.
From what i can see, Im thinking Jedinak is no longer in our best midfield. Milligan and Mooy are a better combination deep, Irvine and Rogic/Troisi in the more attacking roles. Jedinak and Luongo depth on the bench.
The bad:
Bailey Wright and Degenek are not NT quality players - Wright looks like he belongs in scotland, Sainsbury hasnt played a game in months and still made the other 2 look like provisional league players. For long periods it was just a boring game, the pitch or paddock for a more accurate description is an embarrassment to the game. Still dont like Leckie as our only wide player on the left, with a 3 man defence the wide players need to have good defensive nous, Leckie is a fwd and was caught out several times.
Big game against the Saudis at home next, really should win that and all but sew up qualification.
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I'd be more comfortable of our qualification if Iraq can pull off a win tonight.
If not even a win in June may not get us into the top 2.
Lots to play out yet, esp if the samarui throw that last game against the Saudis given they have all but secured too spot
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I'd be more comfortable of our qualification if Iraq can pull off a win tonight.
If not even a win in June may not get us into the top 2.
Lots to play out yet, esp if the samarui throw that last game against the Saudis given they have all but secured too spot
Sauds won 1-0 >:(
Frankly, if we can't qualify through this region we don't deserve a spot at the WC.
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Agree dougey,
Let's not forget the Saudis and Japan would be looking at their own remaining games and thinking poo... FH the Saudis game is the big one, we win that we're through given we have Thailand at home in the final game.
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We've also got to hope Japan beats the Saudis away otherwise we'll need to take points off the Japanese in Saitama.
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How the hell does Kruse keep getting selected. He is so far from best and Ange always makes a point of selecting on form yet this bloke isn't even contracted anywhere at the moment. Meanwhile Goodwin, Amini and Gersbach have been playing well while this bloke walks straight in.
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How the hell does Kruse keep getting selected. He is so far from best and Ange always makes a point of selecting on form yet this bloke isn't even contracted anywhere at the moment. Meanwhile Goodwin, Amini and Gersbach have been playing well while this bloke walks straight in.
Yep not happy about that one and the first big misstep Ange has made, has gone back on his word on this one and really should know better. The only thing I can think of is that we're doing a long term servant a favour to try and give him some exposure so he can land a club. Still, doing that on the eve of one our most crucial world cup qualifiers in years doesn't seem right. Im purely speculating here and likely wrong, but geez having a player in the squad that cant find a club side sends the wrong message.
Goodwin deserved a run here
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I thought the same thing re: helping Kruse find a club. But the national team shouldn't be a charity.
Muscat and Ross Aloisi are on board with Ange I read. I love Muscy as a decorated Victory servant but I'm not sure how I feel about him having any sort of chance with the national team if that's what Ange's angle is. Not until he has had some better managing gigs anyway.
Kruse needs a team, Victory need a winger, I wonder what the chances of that would be for next season. Would be a total waste for him but his career overseas has been nothing but a flop due to injuries and struggling to regain his old form.
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works for Troisi, he should come back and find some form if he cant land a decent gig in a decent league
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Mooy and Rogic firing at the same time would be as potent as almost anyone. Just need to find our next 10 year striker. Juric won't be it and Maclaren needs to be exposed to some better teams.
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Lol should bag Juric some more.
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That was a great goal. Unfortunate though.
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Ffffffffff what a rocket from Rogic. Keeper got a tip but those sorts of hits are unstoppable.
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Wtf no pen?!?!?
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just need to scrape through, but gee this is an average side lets be honest.
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Milligan is a massive loss in this formation. McGowan a total liability tonight. I know Ange wanted to go in aggressive because we have to win but there is no way Socceroos could play this formation at WC level. Could have just as much gone in with a 442 diamond since we're playing narrow anyway, Smith and Leckie can still run the wings and we would be less vulnerable on the counter. Mooy and Jedinak are way too deep to start play.
That missed pen could be big given the last two games might come down to goal difference.
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every goal is important and that miss is going to be very costly.
we need to belt the crap out of thailand.
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On the bright side, 3 goals from open play. :cheers we've struggled scoring all qualifying. You could tell a lot of the players haven't been playing so with any luck the confederations cup will be a good tune up to finish strong.
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Geez take the 3 points and run - we are in a rut atm and playing like poo. I know we dont have top end talents but we're capable of playing a lot better than that. Ange's 3-4-3 will get fisted by a half decent side. Im actually hoping we cop a few hammerings when we play brazil and then the confederations cup, to give us a kick up the arse and to let Ange know we should shelve this formation before we blow qualification.
A couple of things - McGowan is no good, Degenek is no good, Jedinak is no good and would prefer Milligan anchoring the midfield or even play Milligan at the back with sainsbury and let Mooy anchor the midfield on his own, Jedinak cramped his style.
Have to admit Kruse looked sharp when he came on, Rogic and Irvine will continue to get better. Expecting Leckie who is a fwd to play as a wingback is just wrong on so many levels, actually disappointed with Anges tactics here, imo his whole setup of this tactic is wrong. He spreads the 3 man backline too much and has forwards playing as wingbacks getting into the wrong positions which is leaving holes in midfield which is being exploited.
Got some issues..
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Spot on TM. I don't mind Degenek just not that role in that formation. Needs support, Milligan is a rock. Hertha Berlin have stated they plan to play Leckie as a wing back so I don't know if that had any influence on Ange. Will be good for Leckie to go to a side like Hertha though. Regularly top 6 in Bundesliga and we could do with a few with that sort of exposure.
Ate my hat when Kruse came on. Had some nice moves around the box and probably unlucky that Behich wasn't awake when he put one across the face.
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Great formation by the Saudis during the minute's silence...#respect #coexist...
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Gersbach replacing Brad Smith in Confederations squad. Should have been in anyway, too many guys in the team based on their club despite have not been playing regular minutes.
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Great formation by the Saudis during the minute's silence...#respect #coexist...
Its against their culture, no need to be unreasonable....
cue 2 years earlier....
(http://cdn.newsapi.com.au/image/v1/5ef662d5278ff9daf483575091c1e1be)
:shh
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Mourning the dead is against your culture? Righto.....
::) ::)
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They don't mourn martyrs :shh
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Mourning the dead is against your culture? Righto.....
::) ::)
you surprised?
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The same mob that in 2015 refused to get on a team bus here in australia bc the driver was a woman - and this mob are the head of the Human Rights Council? :lol
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Jeggo replacing Jedinak for friendly and confederations cup. Surely Ange can't go with a 3 defence formation now.
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Definitely got schooled tonight. It's not a fair comparison though, we had our best and they had a second string but even then was full of Premier League, Barcelona, Juventus, PSG, Bayern etc starters. We just can't compare when we're lucky to have more than one or two players to even have minutes in the same leagues.
In saying that I thought we were good at times. Box to box and the stuff you can coach I thought there were times where we clearly matched them, but it's the stuff you can't coach. Things like quick flicks and fancy passing, the cheek to take an opponent on with a trick, and just the kind of football brain that comes with being from a culture that has lived and breathed the game for generations. I saw a few times our boys tried to mimic them with some quick passes and it nearly paid off. Playing against sides like that will do us good even if we get smashed. Our guys don't really get that sort of exposure to quality opposition even with their clubs. Just constantly playing nations from our confederation will never make us better if we want to be a genuine middleweight. Will be interesting to see what they've learnt from tonight and what they take into the game against Germany's B team. If they haven't learnt anything then Draxler is going to absolutely pants them like Coutinho did. Sounds harsh but it was good to see their faces after the game as they crashed back down to Earth. No pats on the bum and "we did what we needed to do" tonight.
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Agreed Dwaino, structurally we were much better than we have been recently and looked a bit sharper but when Brazil put the foot down they pulled us apart like we were witches hats. Biggest issue I see (apart from the individual skill gulf) is the difference in speed and agility. The only player that looked like he could match them off the mark and in straight line speed was Leckie. I saw the after game discussions on foxsports and was disturbing to hear that we dont evaluate speed and strength conditioning for up and coming players at the AIS anymore. :gobdrop
As a matter of urgency we should be putting in place programs and checks through junior reps sides and camps to ensure this is trained and monitored. We may not be able to ever have the individual brilliance of Brazil but there should be no excuse for not churning out absolute elite athletes.
Im jumping around a bit here but regarding our individual skill level, our national program over the past 10-15 years is also at fault here. In the past we had no problems churning out bonafie world class players like Kewell, Viduka, Vidmar, Okon, Zelic, Bresciano, Grella, Bosnich, Schwarzer, Simunic, Seric(last 2 traitorous scum that chose to play for Croatia) these are players that played in top sides in top leagues and didnt look out of place on the field against world class sides.
Our national coaching philosophies have changed - we have bred and developed a new 'safe style' player that doesnt look for killer balls to break up defensive structures. We need to go back to the drawing board and not stifle individual creativity. Right now, the only players in our squad who genuinely and consistently look to break lines and arent afraid to go for low percentage through balls/or runs are Rogic, Kruse, and to a lesser extent Luongo. (I like the way Irving times his runs late and gets himself into goal scoring positions for a midfielder - its an art and you either have that or dont). No one else has the balls or ability to do it at international level.
Another thing that is costing us is players making terrible club decisions based on money.
-Sainsbury for mine has everything you would want in a defender - imo he could and should be world class but 2 years ago when it was time to leave the dutch league, instead of stepping up into the german, spanish, Italian or english leagues, he chose the money in China and stifled his development. Transferred to Inter Milan last season but barely got a look in, he is just entering the prime of his years and has missed 2 big years of development and mprovement.
-Spiranovic at 18 was playing 1st team football in the bundesliga, was cruelled with injury for a couple of years, but going to China after getting form back after a stint in the Aleague has ruined any chance he had of developing into a top class defender.
-Milligan has grossly underachieved for the god given talent he has, he is a big player that reads the game as well as anyone, walked out on euro football when he was younger bc he didnt like the commitment required which tarnished his reputation. Content to play within himself in the a league and some crap arab league.
-Kruse leaving the bundesliga for China? really? Understand that his time at the club may have been up due to injury etc but I have no doubt he couldve joined another decent side in a decent league. He has quality but another example of chasing the dollar.
I wont go into every player, but you get my drift - some really poor decisions have stifled the expected development and improvement in our NT over the past 3-5 years.
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Current Players I think can become legitimate class players and if I was Ange Id be putting a lot of time into them to ensure they make good decisions for their playing career which in turn would help us out at national level
Rogic(on fire but needs to step up to a big league now)
Mooy(will be playing PL next season which is great for him and us)
Sainsbury(at Inter now, its up to him, he will benefit from training and being around world class teammates)
Smith(In the PL but needs to get some gametime, I rate smith, unbelievable pace, good peg a lot to work with)
Ryan(In the PL next season which will be great for his development, reckon he still has plenty of improvement in him)
Kruse(Massive D-day coming up for a player who is respected amongst his peers, hopefully will go to a good club)
Luongo(Needs to leave QPR imo)
Leckie(doing well in a good league)
Ikonomidis(developing well)
Goodwin(made the right career decision, now battling to establish himself in Holland)
Degenek(slight question marks on overall talent/skillset) but young enough to persevere with.
Irvine(needs to step up into a better league imo)
Hrustic(developing incredibly well)
Make those players the nucleus of the squad moving forward. In terms of pure talent, its actually pretty good, problem is apart from a handful of them, they are all treading waterand have been for a while now.(Geez we're light on for defenders though, Bailey Wright, McGowan brothers, Behich are way off the pace and will never be good enough imo.
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I'm pretty sure Sainsbury has returned to his Chinese club as his Inter loan expired. Still pretty good that a club like that gave him a look in though.
Agree on the others. Mooy and Rogic firing at the same time would be huge for our team. Would be interesting to know what the next generation is like though. That Pasquali 16 year old that Victory had briefly looked all class before getting snapped up by Ajax's youth academy. A few more like that would be handy.
Don't forget that Langarak is back in the Bundesliga after getting Stuttgart back in
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Lost 2-3 to Germany.
Deer in the headlight stuff from us in the first half. We were torn to shreds and we're lucky to be only 1-2 down. Much better second half. Rogic (what a star), Mooy and Kruse when he came on were clearly our best. The German keeper was our next best. He had a shocker which allowed in our two goals.
Once again coughed up a goal early on in the game to put us on the back foot (in the second half as well). We're being exposed big time playing a back 3 when most of our blokes aren't use to playing together with that formation. Opposition forwards and attacking mids can easily make runs into space behind us when we get caught not knowing who pushes up and who stays back.
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finished off the confed cup with a 1-1 draw with world number 4 Chile after drawing 1-1 with cameroon several days earlier.
The Cameroon performance was more of the same rubbish - too slow and methodical in our build up, over using Mooy unnecessarily, wright and degenek continuing to give away cheap possession. Lucky to draw that one.
The Chile game was vastly different. No Mooy, Rogic, Leckie, Wright, Degenek, no worries.
Should have and couldve have scored 4 or 5 quite easily. Refreshing to see us finally put together some enterprising movement on and off the ball. Hopefully this is the game we look back at to say thats where we rediscovered our mojo. Luongo, Irvine, Sainsbury, Milligan, Kruse were the standouts for mine. We took risks and it paid off. I have no doubt that will give the players a lot of belief that they can trouble anyone.
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Didn't see it but I read a fair bit and saw some stuff and reckon we did awesomely against the world #4. We play like that next month and we are off to the World Cup.
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Chile might be ranked number 4.
They wouldn't be in the top 10 in the world though.
Brazil
Argies
Spain
Germany
France
Italy
Portugal
Dutch
I'm just plucking off the top of my head and not a soccer fan in any capacity , just my two bobs worth
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Ranked #4 on FIFA ranking points. This Chile team won the Copa last year, romped Brazil 2-0 in the last qualifier and are currently going through a purple patch. They are tuning up for WC and went in strong including guys like Vidal and Sanchez. It was a great effort from our lot unlike the putrid one against Germany's second string side which only had Draxler.
http://www.fifa.com/fifa-world-ranking/ranking-table/men/index.html
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Damo, when talking historical pedigree then you're right - but this Chilean side is the bomb, South American Champions as dwaino pointed out beating Argentina in the final, took care of business against Brazil comfortably last start. They have talent equal to any side in the world - make no mistake this is a heavyweight side that is not punching above their weight class with this generation of players.
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50/1 and 13th fav for the World Cup
Might throw on a lazy pineapple for some interest
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Those pesky Germans
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Confederations Cup with a second string side, knocked over Spain in the Euro U21 final, Germany has always been in the best but they are an absolute powerhouse right now. Majority of their best players play continental Europe and they use their own system. Maybe it's time to stop trying to copy the Dutch system and instead look at the German system.
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I read somewhere we've just made an agreement with the German football federation to share and exchange info on coaching, marketing and sponsorship. Reckon we'd be the beneficiaries of that one. :snidegrin
About 6-7 players not only played themselves into the World Cup squad, but several of them will legitimately push for a starting spot. Machines.
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FFA consider Gianni De Biasi to succeed Ange Postecoglou as Socceroos coach post 2018 World Cup.
http://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/sport/football/socceroos/italians-job-ffa-consider-gianni-de-biasi-to-succeed-ange-postecoglou-as-socceroos-coach/news-story/01f5bfc83966cbb0178bc8def9c388e0
FFA going outside Australia for our next coach when a year or so ago they were boasting about the quality of Aussie coaches.
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Go best available, who cares where they are from. It says that De Biasi never managed outside Italy bar one time in La Liga prior to Albanian job. Would that mean he is very defensive like a typical Serie A and Italian national side?
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Great achievement by the Matildas :thumbsup
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Great achievement by the Matildas :thumbsup
The Matildas didn't just win it either. Absolutely wiped the floor :o :clapping.
Aus 1 - 0 USA
Aus 4 - 1 Japan
Aus 6 - 1 Brazil
http://www.theage.com.au/sport/soccer/matildas-blitz-brazil-in-tournament-of-nations-masterclass-20170804-gxp7vy.html
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Massive game coming up on Thursday night against the Samurai in Japan. Absolutely cannot afford to lose this one, a draw should ensure qualification with an easy game against Thailand at home to round off qualification. Japan haven't looked great this campaign either but will be tough to beat or draw with over there. I hope the boys can carry over their confed cup form where they looked very sharp
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Massive
Timmy to start?
I don't care about the future just yet, we just need a draw at least from this game or qualification will be a whole lot more difficult.
The japs will be up for this given our history.
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how can you be even remotely interested In this poo wankers
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? wtf are you on about
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Nagatomo, Honda, Kagawa, Yoshida, Haraguchi. That Japanese squad is unreal, they really should be stomping this region. I don't know where their mojo has gone. Massive game this week.
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UAE beating the Saudis is HUGE
Can make it even losing to Japan if we destroy the Thai's
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? wtf are you on about
Every now and then he gets on the turps and comes in here sprouting racist crap about wogs and wogball. Surprised he controlled himself this time. He's just a idiot.
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UAE beating the Saudis is HUGE
Can make it even losing to Japan if we destroy the Thai's
Great result!
Now if we manage to win tomorrow night we qualify no matter what
a draw will see us through if we then win our final game against Thailand at home(should be a given)
Even if we lose, there is still a good chance we qualify if we win our final game by a big margin and have a better goal difference than the saudis, if the saudis lose to japan in the final game(which is likely) then goal difference wont matter and we're through with any type of win over thailand
Clear as mud?
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Wtf defence were standing there like mannequins???? I assumed there was an offside the way they stood there but it was actually just pathetic.
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Brad Smith having a stinker.
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What a dumb goal to cop. It was defended well out wide initially pushing him higher, which is what you should do as a defender, in all fairness was an absolute peach of a ball but still poo defending from smith
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that was a shocking goal.
kruz needs to wake up.
timmy comes in right now. we cant drop any more goals or we have to smash thailand and we drew with them last time.
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how does the gf and ga work in the final round.
at it stands now we are
TEAMS
JapanJAPAN
15(gf) 6 (ga) 17points
Saudi ArabiaSAUDI ARABIA
16(gf) 10(ga) 16points
AustraliaAUSTRALIA
14(gf) 8(ga) 16points
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It goes in tie breakers. First points, then goal differential, then goals for. Currently KSA have us on GF.
It's going to go down to beating Thailand and hoping Japan win because we aren't scoring poo this game. First 20mins were great, pedestrian since.
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So tell me dwaino If it ends like this we need to beat Thailand by more than 1 goal than what Saudi beat Japan?
We should go through, but this team ain't much chop
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make that 2 more now
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Actually 3 more bc they have more goals for
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Considering we couldn't even beat them last time, and combine that with Japan tanking it's going to be difficult
Bozza not happy. Spot on though
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I'm yet to check the table myself but they just said on Fox if we win by 4 and KSA win by 2 we will be on same GD and GF. After that it comes down to head to head and we win that one. Pretty much we just want Japan to win. We of course have to beat Thailand but if we can't even do that then we don't deserve to be in the WC.
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Yep agree, we barely deserve it as it is, we are too predictable and slow going fwd, I hate this rubbish possession game, it's akin to loose defenders in afl getting 35-40 useless pad starting possessions.
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I hate the formation. We don't have the quality to play 3 defenders with wing backs.
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Kruz as the main man
Yeah na negative
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how does the gf and ga work in the final round.
at it stands now we are
TEAMS
JapanJAPAN
15(gf) 6 (ga) 17points
Saudi ArabiaSAUDI ARABIA
16(gf) 10(ga) 16points
AustraliaAUSTRALIA
14(gf) 8(ga) 16points
In league format, the ranking of teams in each group is based on the following criteria (regulations Articles 20.6 and 20.7):[6]
Points (3 points for a win, 1 point for a draw, 0 points for a loss)
Goal difference
Goals scored
Points in matches between tied teams
Goal difference in matches between tied teams
Goals scored in matches between tied teams
Away goals scored in matches between tied teams (if the tie is only between two teams in home-and-away league format)
Fair play points
first yellow card: minus 1 point
indirect red card (second yellow card): minus 3 points
direct red card: minus 4 points
yellow card and direct red card: minus 5 points
Drawing of lots by the FIFA Organising Committee
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2018_FIFA_World_Cup_qualification_%E2%80%93_AFC_Third_Round#Group_B
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What an insipid performance :thumbsdown. It was like watching the Socceroos of 30 years ago. Never seen so many straightforward passes miss their target :help. Japan just had to sit back and wait for the dumb turnover to hit us on the break. When we did get the ball forward we were out of ideas (didn't fire a shot on goal for the whole second half despite being behind on the scoreboard) We don't deserve to go to the World Cup if we're dishing up clueless skill-less garbage like last night :banghead.
Going forward, I don't see Japan doing us any favours. So that means a 3rd place finish in the group and off to the play-offs like the old days. First up would be one of South Korea, Syria or Uzbekistan. If we get past that playoff, then currently we would end up playing Panama for a WC place but it still could be the USA who are only a point ahead in 3rd spot in the CONCACAF group :-\.
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Postaflogaloo clearly out of his depth....need first-world football expertise back at the helm... :shh
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Ange is copping some heat from Bozza and not without justification either. His demeanor and body language in interviews is subpar - slouching, not looking at the camera and looking like a bit of a slob tbh. Image is important in that role.
We'll need to slam 5 past Thailand to make sure of it
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Ange has already checked out.
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Hoping for at least 3-0 but more comfortable with 4-0.
Struggling to see who will score though.
To be honest if we dont sew it up from here we dont deserve it. And we dont on recent form.
Japan have already made it so they may be checked out v the Saudis
So what will be will be.
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For the reigning AFC champs we have horrible potency. For so much dominance we are pathetic at getting on the board and our counter attacks are simply pedestrian. This team doesn't deserve WC.
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How did we not score a couple then? Duck we are hacks in front of goal.
Juric is a gumby, Cahill is past it.
Mooy and Leckie are by far our most potent players on the field. Rogic needs to do more
Degenek and Wright are pub footballers
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Just rewatching the 1st half chances, how are we not 4-0 up let alone even 1??
Two posts
Off the line clearance
Wright face butting wide from 1 foot
The unbelievable scissor kick block by the defender on juries volley
stuff me
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I thought Rogic has been ok, he and Leckie are the only ones taking on defenders, Mooy getting good touches and setting them up. I don't mind Cahill or Juric in the side because we don't have anyone else, but not in the same team. Cahill can't play AM. Isn't Mabil on the bench? Surely something with pace to compliment Leckie.
Still a class above but not long ago I was watching Germany field their bench/reserve squad against San Marino which was a similar gulf in class in terms of possession numbers. The difference was it was raining goals.
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14 shots and 74% possession and we still can't put the ball into the back of the net :facepalm.
Juric simply had to head that cross past either side of the keeper for an easy goal, yet he chests it down giving the Thai defender time and a chance to throw his body in the way.
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Got out of jail there, that should have been a pen.
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we are pathetic
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How did he not give away a penalty....
Very lucky
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Sainsbury did get the ball but some whistle happy refs would've paid that a penalty for the tackle from behind. Lucky this ref isn't one of them.
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Finally!
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Sainsbury did get the ball but some whistle happy refs would've paid that a penalty for the tackle from behind. Lucky this ref isn't one of them.
Clear pen
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Benny Hill stuff.
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lmao
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Lol
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This is like me playing FIFA, dominating the opposition for squat while the AI only needs one chance against me.
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fmd is their keeper Neuer?!
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stuffing shitmen
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40 shots for 2 goals and still managed to concede 1 from only 6.....comical.....even a play-off is more than we deserve...
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Sorta cbf looking it up but we need Japan to pump the Sauds to make it?
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Poomen. We deserve nothing. We will get sodomised in Russia
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Sorta cbf looking it up but we need Japan to pump the Sauds to make it?
Go to bed and wake up. Let fate sort it
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Japan to draw or win and we're in. Should KSA win we go into a playoff. We've gone backwards since the AFC though and don't even deserve that much.
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The positive was seeing the continual improvement of Mooy, what a gun. Gersbach deserves a start has gone past smith. Leckie looks a lot better when he doesn't have to worry about defence first. Rogic had his moments tonight, has a lot of skill, but needs to get better, if he learns to pick the right moment for release vs when to run straight at the defence he'll be lethal. Milligan is class, after that the cupboard is pretty bare
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Apparently Leckie has been getting finishing training at Hertha. Definitely looking better and is what has been really letting him down. Gersbach is going to be a gun. Really liked him since he was killing it for Sydney FC at only 18. Jedinak is getting on but if Ange gets out of this 3 man defence fascination then I think we would be a lot more solid defensively being able to field both he and Milligan as holding mids. We currently get murdered on counters regardless of the opposition. With the current set up guys like Mooy are playing too high when as a 10 he should be much deeper and it's pointless cycling the ball around the middle like we do when the opposition can just collapse their defence and mids in front of their goal.
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KSA got up so now we have to do it the hard way. Could be the kick up the arse they need.
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Ange has to go ffs. Sick of listening to his rubbish.
If he was an international he would have been gone a long time ago.
7 figures for a guy who clearly is out of his depth :banghead :banghead
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First we have to get past the terrorists
Then we have to hope for Panama or Honduras (who are 1-0 up against USA)
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First we have to get past the terrorists
Then we have to hope for Panama or Honduras (who are 1-0 up against USA)
GG world cup 2018....
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They should hold Syria's home leg at Belmore Sports Ground....
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Just more of the same from the Socceroos last night :facepalm. Failed again to put numerous chances away when we were on top in the first half and early second. Then fade away and concede a goal. Mind you that penalty call was the biggest load of crap :banghead. If that sort of 'contact' in the box is penalty worthy then there would be 10 penalty calls in most games every week ::).
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Corruption clear as day.
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racist
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look, whilst it was a terrible decision i blame our players and admin staff for allowing an irani born ref to officiate the game.
seriously wtf were they thinking for not speaking up about that?
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in order for the tip:-
1st load) the Irani born ref.
2nd load) Kruse & Leckie in the box
3) Soccer Australia 11 years after 2006...chance gone.
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yyyyyeeeeaaaahhhhh 1 - 1
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Ange is taking the pee, got to go
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Serious question as I don't follow soccer at all
But could these results simply be a reflection of where the side is right now = we just aint that good?
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Ever seen a team that can dominate a minnow like Australia does but an absolute limp dick in front of goal?
Ange is out of ideas, we need a fresh face.
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Serious question as I don't follow soccer at all
But could these results simply be a reflection of where the side is right now = we just aint that good?
We ain't that good, but we should be a fair way ahead of every side in Asia bar Japan and South Korea. This is embarrassing, build up at pedestrian pace, no width except the Fwds who also have to trek back, sheer pig headedness in always playing out of the back instead of pumping it long, an aversion to playing square balls which in afl terms is the ball that has risk but can also break lines.
We are very easy to play against
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We never counter either. Have pace to burn on the wings yet we hold it up and let the opposition get all their men back.
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Lol this Syrian, holding his face like he's been shot, nowhere near it mate. Geez soccer refs are stuffing dumb, as bad as wwf referees
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Asian minnows are absolute grubs.
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Why isn't that grub yellow carded for diving? This is why this game is ridiculed
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Stuff me dead. Syria are out of legs, down to 10 and we can’t put the pricks away.
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2-1 :phew
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Have to say, its depressing that Cahill has to come and save us every time. Bloke is 37.
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Panama will pull our pants down unless we smarten up fast.
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Have to say, its depressing that Cahill has to come and save us every time. Bloke is 37.
And even more depressing is we have absolutely nobody of note coming through.
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We should hold on from here but it's been more of the same slow disjointed slop.
It says it all that we rely on a 37 year old to score in general play. We're stuffed when Timmy retires :help.
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Saved by the post.
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So it's now Panama or Honduras. The USA should beat Trinidad to qualify directly. We'll find out 1pm tomorrow.
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Diving drives me insane
We did it to get the red, rolling around grabbing his leg that wasn't even contacted
Then they do it flat out to stall
Then the bloke of there's commando rolling 3 times screaming .. as soon as no card jumps up and sprints .. it's embarrassing to soccer
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I can understand putting a bit of mayo on it in the box as the reward is huge, but can’t stand it for time wasting. Calling a stretcher for a cramp then coming straight back on should be an immediate yellow.
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I've been saying for years that if someone is 'injured' enough to not be able to get up within 30 seconds, then mandatory stretcher is required and said player needs to stay off for 5 mins. This will quickly stop the timewasters and those legitimately injured will be subbed anyhow. Problem solved.
BTW Ange has just announced hes quitting after the final playoff next month even if we qualify for the World Cup
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Wtf? Then what’s the point? No chance for a new manager to implement a new system or anything. stuff Ange, should have quit at the group stage if that’s the case.
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Serious question as I don't follow soccer at all
But could these results simply be a reflection of where the side is right now = we just aint that good?
Yes, but a lot to do with the manager also. He has had one foot out the door for a while now.
His demeanour is pathetic.
He has lost the plot for a while now IMO, so how can you expect the players to lift if you cant?
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Socceroos to play Honduras in the intercontinental playoff.
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DL0m5WeX4AIUV2x.jpg)
https://twitter.com/FIFAWorldCup/status/917933029443690497
Panana finished 3rd in the CONCACAF region while the USA lost to Trinidad and missed out lol.
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USA and Chile wow
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Ange has named the 25-man squad to play Honduras:
Behich, Cahill, Degenek, Gersbach, Goodwin, Irvine, Jedinak, Jeggo, Juric, Jurman, Kruse, Langerak (GK), Leckie, Luongo, McGowan, Milligan, Mooy, Risdon, Rogic, Rukavytsya, Ryan (GK), Sainsbury, Troisi, Vukovic (GK), Wright.
Match Details:
2018 FIFA World Cup Intercontinental Play-off (CONCACAF-Asian Zone) 1st leg
Honduras v Socceroos
Friday 10 November 2017
Estadio Olímpico Metropolitano, San Pedro Sula, Honduras
Kick-off: 4pm (local); 9am (AEDT – Saturday 11 November 2017)
2018 FIFA World Cup Intercontinental Play-off (CONCACAF-Asian Zone) 2nd leg
Socceroos v Honduras
Wednesday 15 November 2017
Stadium Australia, Sydney, Australia
Kick-off: 8pm (AEDT)
Both matches will be broadcast LIVE on FOX SPORTS and the Nine Network.
https://www.socceroos.com.au/news/ange-names-25-man-caltex-socceroos-squad-honduras-play-off
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Timmy Cahill injured his ankle tonight in the A-League. Right before the World Cup qualifying playoffs :help.
Vision: https://twitter.com/ALeague/status/926381531026800640
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Should have stayed home and rested for the first game regardless. Play for the draw away then play to win at home.
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What a sad state of affairs that we still poo ourselves when a 38 year old gets injured.
Why are there no strikers coming through? Midfielders and to a lesser extent defenders we still develop and have a number of reasonably talented options there, but strikers? Juric is the best of the lot and he’s a donkey.
Mclaren is Nowhere near it, even his one strength, his much vaunted pace is not enough to stand out at international level.
Taggart, doesn’t have one quality that stands out and says it might be a factor at international level.
The Greek guy? Forget his name, Nowhere near it even worse than Juric.
Something seriously wrong at grassroots level when no striker has come through the system for about 15-20 years.
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What happened to Burns? I liked the look of him and has fallen away. I think McClaren is our best hope out of a crap bunch and hopefully he can learn something in the Bundesliga.
Socceroos needs new ideas though. I think we have some decent players but it’s like Ange is trying to force a system he wants to play rather than playing the team to its strengths. I thought the idea of a 352 or whatever it is he has us doing the idea is when you take control you move it quickly with the extra man in the midfield. Not this slow build up around the half way line only to get punished when we turn it over. If you take our best players and put them in their best positions we should be playing something closer to a 4231. Even if we make the world cup there is no way an Australian 3 man defence will hold up against the best in the world. We’d get eaten for breakfast.
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TIM Cahill will fly to Honduras on Monday after his departure was delayed by a day to help him recover from an ankle injury.
The striker will be assessed by the Socceroos medical staff when he arrives in San Pedro Sula, but he remains a chance to play in Saturday morning’s World Cup qualifying away first leg.
X-rays and MRI scans cleared Cahill of serious injury, but the delay should limit the possibility of his ankle blowing up on the long-haul flight after straining his ligaments.
Like Mathew Leckie (hamstring), Bochum attacker Robbie Kruse (knee) will stay in Germany to continue rehabbing before joining the squad in Sydney for the second leg in 10 days.
http://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/football/socceroos/tim-cahill-injury-news-australia-socceroos-v-honduras/news-story/96663220201b1c306476454ce1e6778f
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What happened to Burns? I liked the look of him and has fallen away. I think McClaren is our best hope out of a crap bunch and hopefully he can learn something in the Bundesliga.
Socceroos needs new ideas though. I think we have some decent players but it’s like Ange is trying to force a system he wants to play rather than playing the team to its strengths. I thought the idea of a 352 or whatever it is he has us doing the idea is when you take control you move it quickly with the extra man in the midfield. Not this slow build up around the half way line only to get punished when we turn it over. If you take our best players and put them in their best positions we should be playing something closer to a 4231. Even if we make the world cup there is no way an Australian 3 man defence will hold up against the best in the world. We’d get eaten for breakfast.
I was a big fan of Burns when he first came on the scene - stuffed his career up when he moved to AEK Athens in the greek league when he was about 20 and a super talent - spent a few years rotting away in their reserves and was never the same - revived his career a bit a few years back when we won the asian cup but truth be told was never the same player - he missed out on a couple of crucial development years.
Like you I feel that 4-2-3-1 is the system best suited to the calibre of players we have.
-------------------Ryan----------------------
Risdon----Sainsbury----Milligan----Behich/Gersbach
-----------Mooy ------------Jedinak-------------------
Leckie-------------Luongo---------------Rogic
--------------------Juric-------------------------------
We need more quality coming through at right back, we need another central defender to stand up as milligan is getting on.
I think our midfield stocks are very strong - Luongo is underrated and can play deeper in Jedinaks role which would allow a goal scoring midfielder like Irvine to start. Amini and Oikonomidis are talented and getting better so midfield quality and depth wise we're good - although apart from leckie we lack a wide pacy fwd/mid.
Fwds? Do you stick with juric who is scoring at club level or do you go for a pacy player like Rukavytsya/McLaren?
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Amini is one of our most underrated players I think I and he never gets a go.
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0-0 away from home in the first leg. The referee changed 'his' mind after awarding us a penalty thanks to the linesman putting up his flag but then gave Honduras a goal kick :huh.
So it's all down to our home leg in Sydney. Win and we're in! Touchwood, it's not another Iran game and we give away dumb costly away goals :banghead. Anyway, Timmy and Troisi will both be playing as they weren't needed today according to Ange. Hopefully that means we can actually put a few in the back of the net ourselves :pray.
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Do,infant performance and as good a performance as we've seen from the Socceroos for a while now, should've put the tie to bed and won by 2 or 3 but just couldn't score.
We will crush them in the return leg, they are crap
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we need an adelaide crows and Italia soccer team joint meme.
damo or one of u IT gurus see what you can come up with plz.
what a shambles italian soccer is.
:pray for italy
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Going to be an interesting looking WC.
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No Holland
No Italy
No Chile
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Germany and Brazil would be liking their chances right now. France have a pretty tidy squad on paper currently too.
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Suck shyte ya diving dagos... :clapping
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Ange doing what Ange does best, Behich who is probably our best full back right now is in a LW/wing back position.
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Wtf Jurman won that fair and square.
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This first time passing is sublime. Just need to hold on to it more.
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How we use the ball in the final 1/3 will go along way to us winning.
Geez that was close by Timmy.
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Tigers should get this ref at CHF.
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Another one down wasting time. Bring out the sheet ::).
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It was high studs but Mooy got the ball. A free kick only. Honduran player goes down like his leg was chopped off and Mooy gets a yellow yet they've been chopping us down and no yellows ::).
Anyway, our touch is letting us down as well as playing too safe at times.
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Just seem to be lacking some urgency. Been playing safe but we’ve had the control for the most of it and need to start inventing chances.
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Playing with more pace and moving the ball around so far in the second half.
GOAL! :thumbsup
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No extra time/penalties possible now. Win and we're in. 35 mins to go.
Should nickname the Hondurans 'chop chop' as that's all they do when we have the ball ::). If the ref handed out a yellows he could put an end to it straight away.
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Honduras been playing for nil all the draw, can’t see them flicking the switch and start attacking now surely.
Loving this ref too :snidegrin
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Sheesh that header by Timmy that far out almost went in. Off the woodwork.
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2-0 :woohoo
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Another penalty to us :thumbsup.
3-0 :woohoo :woohoo :woohoo
Off to the World Cup we go! :thumbsup
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Woohoo!
Would be great if NZ make it too.
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Australia in the WC Finals - Italy not #2006neverforget :clapping :clapping :clapping
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Sheep Shaggers Max Gawn, Paddington's Lima Beaners last in.... :clapping
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The 32 teams that qualified for Russia 2018:
Asia (5): Australia, Iran, Japan, Saudi Arabia, South Korea.
Europe (14): Belgium, Croatia, Denmark, England, France, Germany, Iceland, Poland, Portugal, Russia, Serbia, Spain, Sweden, Switzerland.
South America (5): Argentina, Brazil, Colombia, Peru, Uruguay.
North America (3): Costa Rica, Mexico, Panama.
Africa (5): Egypt, Morocco, Nigeria, Senegal, Tunisia.
The World Cup draw will be held on 1 December 2017 at the State Kremlin Palace in Moscow. The 32 teams will be drawn into eight groups of four.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2018_FIFA_World_Cup#Participating_teams
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Real good chance to get a favourable group I think.
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Just checking out the Pots and due to some good countries missing it really opens up potentially favourable pot 2 and definitely pot 3 match ups. Sweden are deadly from pot 3 though. Poland a real dark horse. Given they’ve drawn pot 1 they should cruise through the group. I liked them at the Euros. Portugal’s rank must have soared up after winning the Euros though and imo they’re punching above their weight to get pot 1. Maybe they can draw their way through to the knock outs again. Looking at pots 2 and 3 we could definitely get a win and a draw with the potential match ups. Japan’s slide is pretty evident now, normally they would be around pot 3 I would have thought so they’re not going to get a free hit against a pot 4 like they normally would.
Crossing my fingers for something like a Russia, Peru, Egypt ;D
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Yep, here's the pots:
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DOupBBEVwAAlWPm.png)
https://twitter.com/FIFAWorldCup/status/931023806348398593
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Probably get Germany Spain Sweden
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Ange gone.
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Ange gone.
Disappointing given all what Ange has done for the game here and with the job only half done but not surprising. I reckon the reason is summed up in these comments he made today. The national coach should just be focused on coaching rather than dealing with all the external political crap that happens in Aussie Soccer. No surprise he wants a break from all that nonsense and wants to coach overseas.
"I mean, I have loved this job. But it's been all-encompassing. I've thrown myself … it hasn't just been coaching the national team."
"I want to coach abroad. Part of me, you know, is pretty keen to get stuck back into club football, working day-to-day," he said.
http://www.abc.net.au/news/2017-11-22/ange-postecoglou-quites-as-socceroos-coach-ahead-of-world-cup/9178616
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Meh. His new system doesn’t work for us and all he could resort to was sooking it up once he got called out for it.
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My view of Ange is he coaches to prepare teams to perform on the big stage.The Socceroos played their best when it mattered - a promising WC effort by a young team against top ranking countries in 2014, won the Asian Cup and tore Honduras apart to qualify for next year's WC. In Ange's mind, friendlies and qualifiers are just games you can experiment with and only need to get through. So when journos are having a hissy fit over one of these non-Cup matches, Ange just looks at them and treats them with contempt as his body language during press conferences over the past six months showed. Add the troubles going on within the FFA and he clearly got sick of dealing with all the periphery crap.
As far as being Socceroos coach, it was meant to be a 3 World Cup strategy for Ange. Take a young squad to Brazil to give them exposure against the best; then vie to get them past the group stage in Russia; and then with what should be a squad of seasoned experienced campaigners by 2022, make a serious impact in Australia Qatar. Sadly, everyone lost patience with the job only half done.
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spot on mt I agree with that - we're also a vastly better side when playing against good quality opponents that open up and give us some space to do damage the other way. Have little doubt we'll surprise and play some good football at the WC. Most of the squad are now playing regular football, some in very good teams/leagues so we'll improve by the time the WC comes round.
Also Dwaino, did you notice how solid and secure our defence looked in the playoffs against Honduras with Jedinak back? Massive difference - maybe the system can work with the right security in front of them? - although we look better with 2 proper defensive wingbacks instead of leckie playing as one - but i wont go into that now.
Ange has been at loggerheads with the FFA on 2 key issues - development of our top end junior talent. Felt the programs werent churning out the prototype of player his vision for what australian football should be in 10-20 years. That and also the lack of expansion in the A-league and an A-league 2. I think he just got mentally exhausted butting heads - that and wanting a pay rise.
Wonder who we'll get? early talk is Arnold, Muscat, Popovic. Do we need an aussie or international?
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Agree with the other issue but I think using them as an excuse for the on field tactics is a cop out. I just thought we played our best in his earlier years with a 433 and 442 diamond, then he tried to stubbornly force the 352 with a slow build up to work when it clearly wasn't working. We should never be drawing with the likes of Thailand. Japan, South Korea and Australia should be the first 3 through Asian qualifiers every single time.
We need an international person I think. Arnold and Muscat are big fish in a small pond, will get destroyed on the world stage. Popovic probably the best credentialed but surely there would be a few better options out there. Walking straight into a WC side should be pretty attractive I would have thought.
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I agree with you mate, he lost me when he stubbornly stuck to the 3 man backline and almost cost us a spot in the WC, a 4 man defence is the way we should go imv. But having said that, how much better did we look playing a 3 man defence with Jedinak marshalling the troops? maybe just maybe that was the way to go, I guess we'll never know now that he's quit.
I don't think it should be seen as an excuse for the on field, he should own that as that was his call, but I do have some sympathy that in the end those issues did contribute to burning him out, sounds like he was doing too much in the background - Those are issues the national football director should be looking at, not the coach.
Football still has a way to go in this country, I just hope they don't stuff it all up over the next few weeks
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Will definitely agree there with Jedinak. We sorely missed him through a crucial block of qualifiers when he was out injured. Ange did a great job sounding out guys like Luongo too. Remember the “wtf is Luongo?” When he was selected in front of Mooy for Asian Cup. Just not the man to take us any further. Stuff international managing anyway, sounds like he’s had his eye set on club managing for some time now.
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Don't go booking your Aeroflot tickets just yet.....
http://www.theage.com.au/sport/soccer/warring-soccer-factions-on-collision-course-as-claims-of-government-lobbying-pressure-mount-20171127-gztti5.html
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I welcome our new overlords.
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France, Peru, Denmark. Nice!
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Let's hope Jedinak is there :pray.
http://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/football/socceroos/mile-jedinak-injury-aston-villa-socceroos-midfielder-may-be-sidelined-for-months/news-story/dbad655e986ce64cefa775bf6135ad0a
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France, Peru, Denmark. Nice!
16 June 2018 13:00 MSK (UTC+3) France vs Australia Kazan Arena, Kazan
21 June 2018 19:00 SAMT (UTC+4) Denmark vs Australia Cosmos Arena, Samara
26 June 2018 17:00 MSK (UTC+3) Australia vs Peru Fisht Olympic Stadium, Sochi
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2018_FIFA_World_Cup#Group_C
All Groupings:
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DP-iA6WX0AA_HwH.jpg)
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Was hoping we’d get a game in St Petersburg or Moscow as we were thinking of going but they’re some pretty average joints.
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Group E looks like a cracker and Japan’s long slip in the rankings looks to have given them a tougher group.
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Was hoping we’d get a game in St Petersburg or Moscow as we were thinking of going but they’re some pretty average joints.
The stadia are mostly new. The issue is more hoping Samara Arena's construction will be finished :-\.
Kazan Arena
Capacity: 45,379
(http://www.our-russia.com/sites/default/files/styles/resp_760_breakpoints_theme_russia_wide_1x/public/1_93.jpg?itok=FreTfNqP)(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DDFrMXmXkAA-85k.jpg)
Cosmos Arena, Samara (interior pic is a graphic of what it's meant to look like)
Capacity: 44,918
(https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/e/e6/%D0%A1%D0%B0%D0%BC%D0%B0%D1%80%D0%B0_%D0%90%D1%80%D0%B5%D0%BD%D0%B0_%D0%B2_%D0%BD%D0%BE%D1%8F%D0%B1%D1%80%D0%B5_2017.jpg)
(http://www.elcomercio.com/files/content_thumbnail_large/uploads/2017/11/30/5a207e73437d8.jpeg)
Fisht Stadium, Sochi
Capacity: 47,659
(https://d2v9y0dukr6mq2.cloudfront.net/video/thumbnail/r3NpKei5gizy8iatz/videoblocks-aerial-football-stadium-fischt-sochi-adler-russia-olympic-torch-and-fisht-stadium-built-for-winter-olympic-games-2014-stadium-fischt-the-main-ceremonial-area-the-olympic-flame-bowl-in-soch_h6qwh4w1_thumbnail-full01.png)
(https://images.performgroup.com/di/library/GOAL/b9/43/fisht-stadium-sochi_1qp8lq1gaszd1m30uvg6p4jhj.jpg)
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France, Peru, Denmark. Nice!
Yep, we can't complain with that lot.
There's going to be a 2006/2010 sliding doors moment first up with how we go against top ranked France.
We lost to Brazil in 2006 0-2 (second game I know) but it a respectable loss that only boosted our confidence in getting out of the group stage. We were only 0-1 down until the last minute and coughed one up pushing forward for the equalizer. Also Harry missed a good chance earlier in the game. In 2010 however, we faced Germany first up and embarrassed ourselves 0-4. We never recovered with such a hit to our goal difference despite drawing with Ghana (Harry copped that dubious red card) and beating Serbia.
So a good showing against France is vital even if it's a narrow loss. Here's hoping France beats Peru and Denmark so a win and draw will again be only needed to get out of the group. Peru were only the 5th best South American team while Denmark is no European power. We should also be able to get some valuable tactical info from across the Tasman on playing Peru.
Group E looks like a cracker and Japan’s long slip in the rankings looks to have given them a tougher group.
My tips on those getting through to the knockout stage.
A: Russia, Uruguay
B: Portugal, Spain
C: France, Australia (why not ;D)
D: Argentina, Croatia
E: Brazil, Switzerland
F: Germany, Mexico
G: Belgium, England (Poms will be happy with their group)
H: Poland, Colombia (if they are on the legit :whistle)
ps. So glad when Iran was named in Group B so we knew we had avoided both Portugal and Spain :phew.
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Denmark is a tough one to call. No real superstars to think of except for maybe Eriksen but most of the team play in top leagues. If we can scratch a win and a draw against them and Peru, as long France don’t smash us that could be enough. France have so much firepower. Definitely a chance to win the whole thing.
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Denmark is a tough one to call. No real superstars to think of except for maybe Eriksen but most of the team play in top leagues. If we can scratch a win and a draw against them and Peru, as long France don’t smash us that could be enough. France have so much firepower. Definitely a chance to win the whole thing.
Agree with all that, dwaino.
Yep, Eriksen is the main threat. He pretty much got Denmark to the World Cup scoring 11 goals from 12 qualifiers or something like that.
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Graham Arnold has been offered vacant Socceroos job, according to Fox Sports News sources.
https://www.foxsports.com.au/football/socceroos/graham-arnold-has-been-offered-vacant-socceroos-job-according-to-fox-sports-news-sources/news-story/5d5fddbfb8875b4379b2e92f4c38d852
FFA dismisses approach for Luis Felipe Scolari as Socceroos coach.
http://www.smh.com.au/sport/soccer/ffa-dismisses-approach-for-luis-felipe-scolari-as-socceroos-coach-20171213-h03uz8.html
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arnold. hahaha
super choice.
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FFS no more A-League coaches, especially total boobs like Arnold. Need somebody with European experience as a minimum.
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:facepalm
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The list of coaches interested in leading Australia at next year's FIFA World Cup continues to grow with veteran English managers Harry Redknapp and Tony Pulis both throwing their hats in the ring.
https://theworldgame.sbs.com.au/article/2017/12/14/redknapp-and-pulis-join-list-coaches-interested-socceroos-job
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The list of coaches interested in leading Australia at next year's FIFA World Cup continues to grow with veteran English managers Harry Redknapp and Tony Pulis both throwing their hats in the ring.
https://theworldgame.sbs.com.au/article/2017/12/14/redknapp-and-pulis-join-list-coaches-interested-socceroos-job
Tony Pulis would be good
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Would we get anyone decent from overseas with current state of the FFA? :-\
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http://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/football/socceroos/louis-van-gaal-has-emerged-as-a-genuine-contender-to-manage-australia-at-the-2018-world-cup/news-story/68be8e241f166779ee56a6760411410e
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Yes please
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Van Marwijk is a pretty decent appointment.
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Sydney FC coach Graham Arnold is expected to be confirmed as his post-Russia 2018 successor within weeks.
http://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/football/socceroos/dutchman-bert-van-marwijk-to-lead-socceroos-to-2018-russia-world-cup/news-story/c2e37e775f7d78c6a48f80378cc3a1c0
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FFA chasing its tail.
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AUSTRALIA’S midfield star Aaron Mooy was carried off in agony as Huddersfield beat Bournemouth in the English Premier League.
https://www.foxsports.com.au/football/socceroos/socceroos-star-aaron-mooy-carried-off-with-apparent-knee-injury-in-premier-league-match/news-story/060a7fcd5c1ccdf4ce8c7e9a75899906
Fingers crossed Mooy is okay for the World Cup :pray.
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Van Marwijk's Socceroos 29-player preliminary squad for friendlies against Norway (Oslo) & Colombia (London):
Behich, Brillante, Cahill, Degenek, Gersbach, Irvine, Jedinak, Jones (GK), Juric, Jurman, Kruse, Langerak (GK), Leckie, Luongo, Maclaren, Meredith, Milligan, Mooy, Nabbout, Petratos, Risdon, Rogic, Rukavytsya, Ryan (GK), Sainsbury, Susnjar, Troisi, Vukovic (GK), Wright.
Norway v Socceroos
Date: Friday, 23 March 2018 (local time)
Venue: Ullevaal Stadion, Oslo, Norway
Kick-off: 6pm (local) / 4am AEDT (Saturday, 24 March 2018)
Broadcast: Live in Australia on FOX SPORTS and Network Ten
Colombia v Socceroos
Date: Tuesday, 27 March 2018 (local time)
Venue: Craven Cottage, London, England
Kick-off: 8pm (local) / 6am AEDT (Wednesday, 28 March 2018)
Broadcast: Live in Australia on FOX SPORTS and Network Ten
https://www.socceroos.com.au/news/bert-van-marwijk-confirms-preliminary-caltex-socceroos-squad-march-matches
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Troisi and Kruse lucky. Well deserved to Nabbout and Petratos. Dimi especially, long overdue. I thought Rhys Williams might have been a bit stiff but looks like Van Marwijk is going youth instead with Sunsjar.
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Where's the little white Muslim with the ginger afro?
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Not sure why Amini isn't getting a go. Gets a lot more minutes in a top flight Euro league than a few of those selected.
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FFA appoints Graham Arnold to succeed Bert van Marwijk as Socceroos boss after World Cup.
https://www.foxsports.com.au/football/socceroos/ffa-appoints-graham-arnold-to-succeed-bert-van-marwijk-as-socceroos-boss-after-world-cup/news-story/b8be840bdeeaceed23aa7306093b49c1
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Graham Arnold, what a great coach :shh
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What a waste.
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New bloke off to a good start...but then again, hard to compete with men of such rich Viking stock:
(https://static.ffx.io/images/$zoom_0.082%2C$multiply_1.95%2C$ratio_0.666667%2C$width_200%2C$x_59%2C$y_0/t_crop_custom/t_sharpen%2Cq_auto%2Cf_auto/38a3ca16aece8fcfa7d35551a39957a36fb252a0)
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National team is heading into an unprecedented dark age.
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Bring back Ange.
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https://www.theage.com.au/politics/federal/australia-could-boycott-soccer-world-cup-over-russian-nerve-agent-attack-20180327-p4z6h1.html
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Yet Bishop says there is no consideration of a boycott?
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Australia will play Syria, Palestine and Jordan in Group B at the Asian Cup in January, a relatively benign introduction for Graham Arnold in what will be his first major assignment once he takes over from Bert van Marwijk as coach after the World Cup.
As defending champions, after defeating South Korea in the final in 2015 under Ange Postecoglou, Australia will travel to the tournament in the UAE with confidence.
To ease their path further, the tournament has been expanded to 24 teams from 16, meaning several of the third-placed teams will progress from the group stage to the Round of 16.
If Australia top their group, which will be favourites to do, they will face the best-ranked third place team from one of three groups, before a potential quarterfinal with rivals Japan.
The 2019 Asian Cup will be played at eight venues in four cities in the UAE - Dubai, Abu Dhabi, Sharjah, and Al Ain, in a tournament that will run from January 5 to February 1.
ASIAN CUP DRAW:
GROUP A: United Arab Emirates, Thailand, India, Bahrain
GROUP B: Australia, Syria, Palestine, Jordan
GROUP C: South Korea, China, Kyrgyzstan, Philippines
GROUP D: Iran, Iraq, Vietnam, Yemen
GROUP E: Saudi Arabia, Qatar, Lebanon, North Korea
GROUP F: Japan, Uzbekistan, Oman, Turkmenistan
https://www.foxsports.com.au/football/socceroos/socceroos-opponents-for-the-2019-asian-cup-have-been-revealed/news-story/691319334d11d96cfe470604f84b0b76
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Daniel Arzani and Fran Karacic have been confirmed as the selection bolters for Australia's preliminary 32-man squad for the 2018 FIFA World Cup.
Melbourne City wing prodigy Arzani has represented Australia at junior level but due to his heritage was also eligible to play for Iran.
Socceroos coach Bert van Marwijk has looked to ensure Arzani's future lies with Australia by naming him in his initial squad, which will be whittled down to 23 players by the eve of the World Cup in Russia.
Socceroos' 32-man preliminary World Cup squad
Goalkeepers:
Brad Jones (Feyenoord), Mitch Langerak (Nagoya Grampus), Mat Ryan (Brighton), Danny Vukovic (Genk)
Defenders:
Aziz Behich (Bursaspor), Milos Degenek (Yokohama F Marinos), Alex Gersbach (Lens), Matthew Jurman (Suwon Bluewings), Fran Karacic (NK Lokomotiva), James Meredith (Millwall), Josh Risdon (Western Sydney), Trent Sainsbury (Grasshoppers), Aleksandar Susnjar (FK Mlada Boleslav), Bailey Wright (Bristol City)
Midfielders:
Josh Brillante (Sydney FC), Jackson Irvine (Hull City), Mile Jedinak (Aston Villa), Robbie Kruse (Bochum), Massimo Luongo (QPR), Mark Milligan (Al Ahli), Aaron Mooy (Huddersfield), Dimitri Petratos (Newcastle Jets), Tom Rogic (Celtic), James Troisi (Melbourne Victory)
Forwards:
Daniel Arzani (Melbourne City), Tim Cahill (Millwall), Apostolos Giannou (AEK Larnaca), Tomi Juric (FC Luzern), Matthew Leckie (Hertha Berlin), Jamie MacLaren (Hibernian), Andrew Nabbout (Urawa Red Diamonds), Nikita Rukavytsya (Maccabi Haifa)
http://www.abc.net.au/news/2018-05-07/socceroos-name-preliminary-world-cup-squad/9733740
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:thumbsup
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Dem1XC1V4AA3HYY.jpg)
https://twitter.com/Socceroos/status/1002532194013798400
A brace to Leckie.
Good interplay between Rogic and Mooy as attacking mids.
Classy strike and finish by Nabbout :clapping.
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SOCCEROOS’ WORLD CUP SQUAD
Brad Jones, Mat Ryan, Danny Vukovic; Aziz Behich, Milos Degenek, Matthew Jurman, James Meredith, Josh Risdon, Trent Sainsbury; Jackson Irvine, Mile Jedinak, Robbie Kruse, Massimo Luongo, Mark Milligan, Aaron Mooy, Tom Rogic; Daniel Arzani, Tim Cahill, Tomi Juric, Mathew Leckie, Jamie Maclaren, Andrew Nabbout, Dimitri Petratos.
https://www.foxsports.com.au/football/world-cup/teams/australia/socceroos-make-final-cuts-to-world-cup-squad-daniel-arzani-makes-23man-travelling-party/news-story/51afe50ed5e726943d39ffd45a54f3cf
Not an obvious back 4. We've even used Milligan as a CB. We wouldn't want to cop a couple of injuries in defence :-\.
A guess at the starting 11? A 4-5-1 formation against France?
Ryan
Behich Sainsbury Jurman Risdon
Kruse Luongo Mooy Rogic Leckie
Juric
I'm presuming we'll begin with our starting 11 for the France game against Hungry in the final friendly.
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I'd probably go similar to you. Reckon Petratos would be handy off the bench with late game set pieces. So good to see him finally make the team, well deserved and long overdue. Maclaren and Nabbout could be pretty handy off the bench. It has been a long time since we've had pacy options, usually it's Cahill for Juric/Juric for Cahill.
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I watched the Hungry game early this morning. More questions than answers as far as the starting 11 after that slop. Aside from all 3 goals belonging more in a U12s match, our backs coughed up schoolboy errors and we lacked connection between defence and midfield which meant we were too slow moving the ball forward to penetrate Hungry's defence and looked out of ideas if we couldn't feed the ball out wide. Risden was torn apart and exposed at right back especially in the first half. Up front neither Nabbout nor Juric showed anything. Says it all Timmy was brought on to replace Juric and placed up front. It's a big call but Arzani deserves a start. Still very young and it's a risk against France who will most likely dominate possession but he is a class above most of his more experienced Socceroo teammates. I thought Irvine was one of our best when he came on too.
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Stayed up as well. Risdon is a worry at RB but we're really weak there. I wish Mooy/Luongo combo worked better but it just doesn't. Jedinak has to start but that throws everything out a bit because Luongo is better than a sub but Rogic is our best attacking mid and while Mooy is slower than refrigerated honey he is one of our better play makers.
Still wouldn't start Arzani. Not against France anyway. He's worked magic as a sub against two average teams. He won't get that sort of sniff against France and I'd worry it would destroy him.
Sallai ripped us to shreds. Not looking forward to what Dembele and co will do.
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Spain has sacked their coach Julen Lopetegui a little more than 24 hours before the World Cup begins.
While the USA, Canada & Mexico will jointly host the 2026 World Cup.
https://www.bbc.com/sport/live/football/44465708 (https://www.bbc.com/sport/live/football/44465708)
Given 2030 is the 100th anniversary of the first WC in Uruguary/South America & Europe will get 2034, that means we will need to wait until 2038 before we can bid again.
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Stayed up as well. Risdon is a worry at RB but we're really weak there. I wish Mooy/Luongo combo worked better but it just doesn't. Jedinak has to start but that throws everything out a bit because Luongo is better than a sub but Rogic is our best attacking mid and while Mooy is slower than refrigerated honey he is one of our better play makers.
Still wouldn't start Arzani. Not against France anyway. He's worked magic as a sub against two average teams. He won't get that sort of sniff against France and I'd worry it would destroy him.
Sallai ripped us to shreds. Not looking forward to what Dembele and co will do.
It's a crazy idea but I wonder with our dearth of right backs if Leckie could sacrifice his natural attacking instincts and play a more disciplined defensive role at RB for the sake of the team. Luongo say then moves to Leckie's position out wide right with Jedinak, Rogic and Mooy in the mids.
I can understand not wanting to start Arzani. He may not have the tank for the full 90 at this level and if he doesn't have an early impact then yeah it could backfire needing to sub him off. The only issue I have with that fair enough argument, is the game may be virtually over if France strike with a lead of a couple of goals before he comes on in the second half. Dilemma, dilemma, dilemma :-\.
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Thanks to the Saudis for doing the whole AFC a favour by losing zip-5 ::). Lucky the number of spots for future World Cups is expanding otherwise FIFA would take a spot away from Asia.
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Bloody oath they were bad. I reckon an OER 11 would have given Russia a better game
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Bloody oath they were bad. I reckon an OER 11 would have given Russia a better game
I hope we on OER have some bigger bodies ;D as the Russians are big boys :yep.
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Egypt had a red hot crack. Suarez is a flog.
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Egypt missed Salah. The manager wouldn't risk Salah's shoulder even as a sub in the last 10 mins that could have seen a totally different result.
Iran beat Morocco thanks to an own goal in the last min of injury time. At least a good result as far as the AFC goes after the Saudis' 'effort'.
Portugal Ronaldo drew 3-all with Spain in the other game.
Now onto the Socceroos tonight :thumbsup.
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Looking forward to tonight’s games. Missed the first half last night because the Optus Sport app is rooted. Stream would drop after 10 seconds. Luckily the SBS/Optus World Cup app was fine on the phone and I could air play it to the Apple TV.
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Chucked 100 bucks on both Oz/Frogs to have 1.5+ corners in each half.
2 corners per team in each half should be easy money I hope :lol was paying $6.50 :o
Bit nervous about the Frogs ripping us to pieces but still looking forward to tonight. 0-0 with a few minutes to go with Cahill coming off the bench to score the winner (on his day out from the home) would be unreal
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We can't afford to cough up a soft goal early. We didn't in both friendlies but our first halves were ordinary against inferior opponents.
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Mbappe, Griezmann, Matuidi, Giroud, Dembele, Kanti, Pogba, Varane, Hernandez..etc lol. Not sure if any goal at any time will be soft or just that we’re really going up against it the first game. We will struggle to score but France will romp the group so we can’t afford to get flogged because second spot will probably come down to goal difference. Denmark and Peru are very winnable if we bring our best. Definitely Peru, they struggled to get through NZ for qualification. Denmark will be tough but not impossible.
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By 'soft' I meant more self-inflicted schoolboy errors in defence (eg: Hungry game). I agree it's going to be tough tonight even if we play well. That's why we can't afford those schoolboy errors.
Jeninak starts ahead of Luongo as you predicted dwaino.
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DfzMBUDUEAAWlXB.jpg)
https://twitter.com/Socceroos/status/1007904871759020033
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4231 to clog the inside. Dembele and Griezmann will cause havoc wide.
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Great first half. We've come to play.
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First 10-15 mins we gave them too much respect and stayed off them too much but after that we settled and played, pressured and defended well. Our set pieces have looked dangerous too. As long as we cut out any loose passes in our back half, we can control the game.
As for the French, they should be called the swans with all their dives and acting as they've been shot when we tackle them ::).
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You could have almost predicted being a "minnow" we'd cop a VAR penalty that was called play on initially by the ref.
Hold we've now got a penalty. Mile equalises :woohoo
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Sloppy play in the defensive midfield in the last 5 mins as we've got tired. That's caused us to go behind.
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this deserves a draw this game. no team has performed better than the other
I dont know much about ryan but is there no one taller than him. Seems short for a goalie.
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Expected the result but doesn't mean I'm not gutted. Not only could we have drawn, we could have won. Reckon the pen was technically there but it was so soft, put a lot of mayo on a brush and I reckon Risdon still got a toe on the ball from the earlier angle.
We've come to play, bring that against Denmark and Peru and we go through!
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this deserves a draw this game. no team has performed better than the other
I dont know much about ryan but is there no one taller than him. Seems short for a goalie.
Probably a couple cms smaller than some others but he's a world class keeper so it doesn't really matter.
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he ain't a world class keeper, not even close. he's alright.
good effort. disappointed to see Pogba pull that out of his ass and Ryan get beat. still, a great effort by the lads. very encouraging
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Mitch Langerak would be our tallest keeper (6' 4") but Mat Ryan is clearly our best keeper right now. He saved our backsides a few times tonight. The French winner wasn't his fault either. We were tiring, we started committing sloppy passes coughing up possession in dangerous spots and left space in the middle of our defence for Pogba to waltz through. They got lucky with it lobbing just in too. It looked like it deflected off Behich given the spin on the ball.
Very disappointing to lose given how we played but our concentration dropped off in the last 10-15 mins as we tired and the French made us pay. It's a harsh game. I hope we don't back slap ourselves too much after what is after all a loss. We still have two games to go in the group stage and we can still qualify for the knockout stage if we play with that intensity and concentration for the whole 90 minutes rather than 80.
The one positive is our goal difference wasn't hurt with a one goal loss. Best case scenario is a Denmark-Peru draw later tonight followed by the French going through the group with 3 wins. We'll now most likely need a win and a draw to go through.
ps. Lucas Hernandez is a staging cheat. No wonder his nickname is the "diver" ::).
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He should have been carded for his 3rd effort. Weak dog
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he ain't a world class keeper, not even close. he's alright.
He won't go down as one of the greatest of all time but he is world class. Brighton can pretty much thank Ryan for staying up in the EPL.
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There are only 20 #1 keepers in the EPL and La Liga, the two top leagues in the world. Ryan has been the starting keeper in both making him a world class keeper. Is a gun, we're lucky to have him.
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Reckon it was only Kante that gave us a tough time. Nabbout and Rogic were doing a good job harassing him and he was able to set their play up a bit once those two came off. Hope Hernandez gets taken out, surely should be sanctioned. Horrible display even for world football. Pogba was poo, lucky to get credited for that goal because I thought it was deflected.
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Can't find it but apparently the ref has said he thought Risdon got a toe on the ball but the trip was a separate action? lol if true. Uruguay still butt hurt.
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Reckon Iceland v Argies is gonna be a ripper.
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Iceland are brilliant to watch.
Messi was a mess. Too selfish, too often burned his teammates and missed the pen.
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Messi is finished
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I think I am probably the only person who watched the cricket last night
:rollin
:jump
Soccer just doesn't interest me :shh
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When I first saw the Risdon challenge my immediate thought was penalty. I couldn't understand why the commentators thought it was 100% not a penalty on first thought. It was the right decision in the end but stuff me, you just knew it'd be us who got unlucky with this VAR stuff :scream
he ain't a world class keeper, not even close. he's alright.
He won't go down as one of the greatest of all time but he is world class. Brighton can pretty much thank Ryan for staying up in the EPL.
There are only 20 #1 keepers in the EPL and La Liga, the two top leagues in the world. Ryan has been the starting keeper in both making him a world class keeper. Is a gun, we're lucky to have him.
We've got different definitions of world class boys.
Matty Ryan was a quality keeper at Brugge. Played 10 domestic league games for Valencia, so he wasn't really a starting keeper in La Liga. Did have a great season this year at Brighton but that's one season at EPL level. The likes of Brad Friedel, David James, Rob Green etc played quality football for their clubs for many years but I don't think I ever heard anyone refer to them as world class.
World Class for mine is being one of the absolute best in your position...and Ryan just isn't one of the best in the world.
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I think I am probably the only person who watched the cricket last night
:rollin
:jump
Soccer just doesn't interest me :shh
Would you attend a game if we ever hosted a World Cup? I have always wanted to go to a WC. Pity the 2022 is in Qatar...dunno if I'll make the trip there ;D
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I think I am probably the only person who watched the cricket last night
:rollin
:jump
Soccer just doesn't interest me :shh
Would you attend a game if we ever hosted a World Cup? I have always wanted to go to a WC. Pity the 2022 is in Qatar...dunno if I'll make the trip there ;D
i would recommend you do go because its brilliant. The vibe street parties and the atmosphere itself at games is something special we wont ever replicate.
I was at rio but aim to get to qatar provided they hold it in our summer.
edited to correct quote
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Serbs v Costa Rica is off to a cracker. 10 minutes in and it's end to end pinball stuff. Great atmosphere in Samara too. Love the carnival vibe of these international tournaments.
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Samara is our next stop. Provided France win their last two games then even a draw against Denmark may be enough followed by a win over the weakest team in our group Peru to get through to the knockout stage.
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Kolarov's strike was a ripper. Navas had zero chance. This game has been awesome. Not a lot of fouls or out of plays and the ref is letting a lot go. Milinkovic-Savic is showing why he is so sought after by Real Madrid and Man Utd. He's all class.
Samara is our next stop. Provided France win their last two games then even a draw against Denmark may be enough followed by a win over the weakest team in our group Peru to get through to the knockout stage.
Only way to be sure will be 2 wins. A win and a draw would go down to goal difference and you would be relying on France beating up Denmark.
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Spewing I have to go to work, reckon Germany v Mexico will be another ripper.
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https://theworldgame.sbs.com.au/video/1257703491686/kolarov-nets-free-kick-stunner?playlist=latest-videos-twg
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Beaners just knocked off the Krauts... :clapping
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Unreal
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Love the ramifications of first game results. Sweden aren’t a push over at the moment but surely Germany roll through them and South Korea. Brazil drawing with Switzerland too is great news for Serbia.
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Would you attend a game if we ever hosted a World Cup? I have always wanted to go to a WC. Pity the 2022 is in Qatar...dunno if I'll make the trip there ;D
Nope
Game doesn't interest me in the slightest
Find it boring
Then throw in the staging :whistle
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Spewing I have to go to work, reckon Germany v Mexico will be another ripper.
First half was as good a game as you'll see this tournament. End to end stuff. Mexico are QUICK, remind me of another team that are fast up front :cheers
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Spewing I have to go to work, reckon Germany v Mexico will be another ripper.
First half was as good a game as you'll see this tournament. End to end stuff. Mexico are QUICK, remind me of another team that are fast up front :cheers
Surely Reus gets a start next game. Only checked some highlights but Ozil and Gomez were in cruise control.
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Lol England couldn’t have left it any later.
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The Poms almost blew that. Lucky they have Kane and are good from corners. So many chances especially in the first 25 fluffed because of fresh airies and balls getting trapped under feet. It should have been 3-0 early on and game over. Then Walker has a brain fade to gift Tunisia the equaliser from their only shot on goal all game :lol. The second half was a bit of a grind. Tunisia went into under siege mode but England couldn't break them down to score until that 90 min corner.
In the other games, Belgium ripped Panama to shreds in the 2nd half. Lukaku, Hazard, De Bruyne and Mertens had a field day. 3 fantastic goals too. And Sweden beat a terrible South Korea (especially in the first half). Like England, Sweden couldn't finish all the chances they created and they should have won by more than 1-0.
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Spewing I have to go to work, reckon Germany v Mexico will be another ripper.
First half was as good a game as you'll see this tournament. End to end stuff. Mexico are QUICK, remind me of another team that are fast up front :cheers
Surely Reus gets a start next game. Only checked some highlights but Ozil and Gomez were in cruise control.
I don't think you can not start Ozil - almost a once in a generation type player. But yep, get the Dortmund dangerman on!
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Belgium have some serious firepower and my man Batshuayi didn’t even get on. Group G looks pretty uninteresting now. Other groups have had some interesting results I reckon. Keen to see how Poland go, I liked the look of them in the Euros.
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日本侍! :clapping
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日本侍! :clapping
At least the Colombian player, who was the second quickest in WC history to be red carded, gave away the penalty in doing so, and left his team to play with 10 men for 85 minutes, knows back home won't overreact after a loss in a World Cup :P.
Senegal 1-0 up on Poland early in the second half. Group H is now looking wide open.
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2 up now...
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Group H probably the most even to begin with. With those results reckon it will go down to the wire.
How nice for the host country to get a cruisey group :P
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Reckon the draw of the WC is rigged like the Champions League?
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Reckon the draw of the WC is rigged like the Champions League?
Of course it's rigged. It's FIFA! :lol
FIFA wants the host nation to reach the knockout stage to keep local interest up. So they give them top seed in Group A which means they avoid the top ranked nations.
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:thumbsup
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Egypt, Saudis & Morocco are out. The Moroccans are the most stiff to go out as they more than matched the Portuguese last night but if you can't put the ball in the back of the net then you're not going to win any games.
Now onto the Socceroos vs Denmark tonight :thumbsup.
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Can't wait. Hopefully get some good chances on goal tonight. Old man Timmy off the bench maybe, I haven't seen him play in a while. Maybe there's a reason for that but idk :shh
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The latest mail is the same starting 11 against France will start tonight. If we find we are getting a few crosses and free kicks into the box and it becomes an aerial battle then Timmy will be subbed on.
Hopefully, it's hot too as that should favour us as all our boys have once played in the A-league in mid-summer at one time or another compared to the Danes coming from a cold climate.
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Our set up against France was to defend and cut off the supply to their front three. Even Nabbout was critical in wearing Kante. We broke through in the second half but just didn’t have the class to score. Reckon it’s exactly the same plan. Suffocate Erikson until we know we have the ascendency then go for the kill.
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Our set up against France was to defend and cut off the supply to their front three. Even Nabbout was critical in wearing Kante. We broke through in the second half but just didn’t have the class to score. Reckon it’s exactly the same plan. Suffocate Erikson until we know we have the ascendency then go for the kill.
Sounds like a good plan :thumbsup.
The Aussies should pin this comment from the Danes on their lockers:
“People were more worried last time against Peru than they will be tomorrow against Australia.
https://www.foxsports.com.au/football/world-cup/more-worried-against-peru-denmarks-aussie-jab-ahead-of-wc-showdown/news-story/9e931ca71b6b86d6e5d5e74450f7fcd5
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Reckon the draw of the WC is rigged like the Champions League?
Of course it's rigged. It's FIFA! :lol
FIFA wants the host nation to reach the knockout stage to keep local interest up. So they give them top seed in Group A which means they avoid the top ranked nations.
See ‘South Korea’, 2002.
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Can't wait until they let us host a WC & rig it for us.
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Can't wait until they let us host a WC & rig it for us.
Earliest we'd get a chance to host would now be 2038 or 2042 :-\.
2022 - Qatar
2026 - North America (USA/Mexico/Canada)
2030 - 100th anniversary = South America (Uruguay or combo bid with say Argentina).
2034 - Europe
2038 - Asia/Africa?
2042 - Africa/Asia (whoever missed out in 2038)
2046 - Europe
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Gee I'll be a geezer by then
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If/when it expands to 48 teams we’ll probably lose any chance anyway. Reckon then it will be shared between countries to have enough stadiums and our region is just too big even if shared.
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Crap start :P.
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Hand ball.
GOALSKI Jedinak!!
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We now love VAR :snidegrin.
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Leckie has been immense.
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VAR = two wrongs make a right :yep. That's why people think it's a joke but we'll take it after what happened to us against France.
A tale of two halves that first half. Poor lethargic first 20 minutes before we woke up and got on top in the last 20 minutes. Very open game as both sides aren't showing much defence on transition which is great for Rogic & Leckie (who is having a blinder). Only our final touch has denied us another goal. Robbie, whose touch has been off, fluffed a chance in the box not going first time.
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Can’t buy a goal. We absolutely dominated that second half. As a country are in dire need of quality forwards.
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Not being able to finish off our chances cost us a win. We were the better side in general play but that means nothing if you can't score. When Nabbout went off with that dislocated shoulder, I would've brought Timmy on instead of Juric. Even an older Cahill with his class could've made the difference in the box.
Anyway, we now need to beat Peru and rely on France knocking off Denmark (which they should if they take the game seriously).
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Cahill is an interesting one. Very little game time in two years. Maybe Bert thought he was too much of a gamble? Though we were crossing it in all game which suited Cahill more than Juric.
Arzani was getting teamed as soon as he came on. Going to be a player.
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It was 16 crosses to 8. I agree with the Danish guy. Why have Cahill in the squad if you're not going to bring him on when the game is suiting his aerial strengths in the box?!
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At the start of the cup I thought a draw would have been fantastic, but after how we played I’m just bummed. Should be on 4 points. A bit more composure against France and we could have even been on 6...
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No VAR and we'd oddly could be on 3 pts with a win over France and a loss against Denmark :-\.
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I’ll take that too!
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Threw my remote when they brought Juric on. Good impact he had, getting Leckie's way in the box. Bring back Timmy in game 3 if we're pressing for a winner in the 2nd half.
Hope Nabbout's shoulder is alright
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Should have brought Timmy on instead of Juric, don't know what Van Marwijk was thinking. All those crosses, needed someone to drill one with a header.
We peppered them in the second half, really should have found a winner IMO. Just goes to show, if we had a class player up forward I'm sure we would have found it.
Leckie was amazing, I thought we were well on top through the midfield, with Rogic and Mooy.
Arzani has the world at his feet (excuse the pun). Once he worked out where to run, jeez he looked dangerous.
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I reckon I was more filthy with Rogic for Irvine. Rogic was ominous in the second half and was splitting their midfield almost every time he had it. Nothing against Irvine but he’s a blue collar box to box player and we needed to attack. Agree that Cahill would have been a better option than Juric but so would have McClaren or even Luongo. Juric couldn’t get the feel for the game fast enough and was stagnating our already bog average final third play.
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If I've got this right and we end up on the same numbers of goals for and goal difference with Denmark then I believe we go through on fewer yellow cards.
With Nabbout out, Juric will probably start against Peru even though he isn't in the form of last year with the Socceroos. He hasn't scored this year from 5 games and hasn't added anything in general play either in both warm-up friendlies or coming on as a sub in the first two games of the WC :-\.
ps. Amazingly, if Iceland beat Nigeria tonight then they can for all intents and purposes knock Messi & Argentina out :o. By the way, Croatia are a bit of a dark horse after their first two wins.
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Yep comes to fair play rules after GD. Peru haven’t scored at all and took two games to get through NZ. I think our group plays off against Group D so given Croatia’s form it will be in France’s best interest to aim for the win against Denmark and not take it lightly. Good for us I guess.
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Peru seem to throw everything they've got in the first 10-15 mins. If you can hold up through that period then you can get on top of them as their intensity drops off from that early high.
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At least the Colombian player, who was the second quickest in WC history to be red carded, gave away the penalty in doing so, and left his team to play with 10 men for 85 minutes, knows back home won't overreact after a loss in a World Cup :P.
https://www.theage.com.au/sport/soccer/fifa-world-cup-2018/colombian-midfielder-threatened-in-grisly-echo-of-escobar-murder-20180623-p4znag.html
:shh
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Belgium's strikepower on display once again tonight.
At least the Colombian player, who was the second quickest in WC history to be red carded, gave away the penalty in doing so, and left his team to play with 10 men for 85 minutes, knows back home won't overreact after a loss in a World Cup :P.
https://www.theage.com.au/sport/soccer/fifa-world-cup-2018/colombian-midfielder-threatened-in-grisly-echo-of-escobar-murder-20180623-p4znag.html
:shh
Scarily, not unexpected. Colombian cartels don't take kindly to losing :-X.
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Belgium taking the pee at the moment.
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The Germans pulled that escape out of the proverbial this morning. Down to 10-men and they score the winner from a free kick 5 mins into injury time :o.
England should sew up a spot in the round of 16 tonight. Too bad that will mean their clash with Belgium will be a dead rubber and both sides may rest their stars. If the Poms have a question mark in this World Cup, its their back 3 who aren't the most technically proficient on the ball. The Belgium attack would be a good test for them if both sides took that game seriously.
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Apparently Lukaku copped an injury in their last game and is in doubt? I was surprised because he looked fine when he was subbed off. He’s a beast but even without him they have so much firepower and Batshuayi is a more than handy replacement.
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Crap.
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0-1 down at half-time. If we can't put the ball in the back of the net and we concede with little pressure at the other end from limited opposition chances then we've only got ourselves to blame ::). Juric has done nothing once again up front. Let's hope we can turn it around in the second half and hope France can score a winner at their game against Denmark (0-0 at half-time).
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Bring on Cahill! Stupid coach doesn’t have any idea. Juric is crap and so is Cruze.
Bring on the youngster and the old man.
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See you in Qatar....
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Soft, technically poor and just plain not good enough! More of the same ineffectiveness in the second half and we got what we deserved :banghead.
Denmark drew with France, so we wouldn't have got through anyway but that shouldn't hide such an inept performance.
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That’s what happens when we don’t seize the opportunities like what we had in the first two games. Can’t buy a goal. It’s not an exaggeration to say that NZ have more potent forwards. Arzani looks a player, hopefully some more like Pasquali and Theoharous take the next step for our next generation.
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Time for Arnie and his Sydney boys to take us to the top..... :clapping
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Matty Simon :clapping
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So timid and soft these blokes.
Peru get one chance in the first half and the bloke doesn’t even let it bounce before slamming it the back of the net.
We have multiple opportunities but try and fiddle lick the ball amd miss several chances to just smash the bloody thing past the keeper.
Leckie is soft, Cruze is useless, Juric is hopeless.
I don’t know why I wasted time watching it.
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We are playing quite well for the talent we have.
Face it, our country is far from top class when it comes to soccer development. Our team does their best with the talent they have, proud of what i've seen so far.
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A generation ago Iceland put resources into a new program to nurture the youth and with a population of only 350,000 they are now reaping the rewards and punching well above their weight. Unfortunately, in Australia soccer is third fiddle behind the domestic codes and unless the FFA and the federal government pull their finger out then we will always be a minnow. This World Cup was a massive opportunity lost to put the game on the map here. A more respectable campaign could have sparked a bit of interest from the casual every four year fan in the A League this summer. Instead it’s another failure and everyone is patting the team on the back because they had no expectations. We outplayed France for a half and we completely bitched Denmark and we come away with nothing more than a single point to show for it. There is nothing to be proud of, that was a failure.
The change in manager less than 12 months out didn’t help but Bert probably played the team to its strengths where as Ange was trying to mound the team into a way he probably didn’t have the pieces for. The appointment of Arnold only signals it’s still a Sydney boys club at the end of the day so I’m not holding my breath for change in the next 4 years.
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Germany out!
Amazing finish for that group!
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Who would have tipped 2 zip to South Korea?! The whole thing is blown right open now. Outside of the remaining heavyweights Croatia and Portugal look super threatening and Belgium are my pick of form + quality of squad at the moment.
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Both Messi & Ronaldo's World Cup dreams dashed overnight. Nigh on impossible these days to try to carry your team over the line.
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One of Russia, Denmark, Croatia, Colombia, England, Sweden or Switzerland will be in the final.... :shh
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Whether it's Soccer or Aussie Rules, Football has undergone a evolution within the past 18 months where speed matters. If your too slow even while dominating general play then you'll struggle to score against modern defensive tactics.
Spain ridiculously dominated possession. I think late in the second half they were going at 74% possession and had something like 1000 passes in total to Russia's 162 :o. Problem was they did nothing with those passes except patiently and slowly criss-cross the pitch in a in vain attempt to try and out flank the Russians who had parked the bus. The Russians held their discipline and defensive formation and Spain couldn't pass their way through. In the end, the Russians got the penalty shootout they wanted. It's one of the reasons I can't stand penalty shootouts for deciding games as it encourages negative play and parking the bus by inferior teams but the Russians won't care about that. They got the job done and are now in the Quarter Finals while another powerhouse nation is on a plane ride home with their manager/coach in the firing line for using outdated tactics.
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The thing is MT, Spain were pathetic last night. Obviously Russia were locking down th flanks, but Spain refused to try and make key passes through the middle. Occasionally when they did, then often found Iniesta in dangerous positions.
Completely their own fault. I’m over seeing Russia do well in this World Cup but that was easily the worst game I’ve watched all tournament. Ended up being the right result. pee of Spain, play with a little date and heart next time and you’ll probably win the thing.
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The thing is MT, Spain were pathetic last night. Obviously Russia were locking down th flanks, but Spain refused to try and make key passes through the middle. Occasionally when they did, then often found Iniesta in dangerous positions.
Completely their own fault. I’m over seeing Russia do well in this World Cup but that was easily the worst game I’ve watched all tournament. Ended up being the right result. pee of Spain, play with a little date and heart next time and you’ll probably win the thing.
Sorry Dougey if I didn't make it clear but that was the point of my post. I'm agreeing with you that Spain were pathetic. They played too slow and cautiously which is why they lacked penetration. You can't play that way now days against modern defensive formations. Their manager would've copped a pasting in the Spanish media today for his slow set-up tactics. Keep the neat triangles that go nowhere only for skills training on the practice pitch. It's not 2010 anymore.
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Spain remind me of Italy. Currently going through a transition where the guns of yesterday are moving on and they can't find the next generation to settle on.
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Japan this morning reminded me of us against Iran in 1997. Two nil up with just over 20 minutes to go and then choke. Belgium's 1st and 3rd (winner) goals were due to Japanese mistakes. They failed to clear the ball twice in the first case and then before conceding the 3rd goal they went for last minute glory rather than play for extra time by pushing 7 into the box for their corner. Belgium then burned them on the counter. Great team goal by Belgium's elite strike force (Lukaku with two self-less dummies in the one play to create space for his teammates) but Japan were left to rue leaving the back gate open.
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poms 15 mins away from a penalty shootout after choking in the last minute of normal time
1/1
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Was a great goal from Colombia though,
Cmon you pommy bastards!
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England got out of jail. It could be the lucky break they need to go on and win it now. They should be too good for the Swedes and make the semis at least.
I liked how the Poms gave the South Americans a taste of their own medicine. Never seen an English side dive as much as they did tonight. Something the Socceroos need to learn from.
You wouldn't want to be Uribe or Bacca given Colombia's history by the way.
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Poms actually won a penalty shoot out....the world truly has gone mad.... :shh
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Can Belgium hold on. Great game
2/1 83rd min
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France have the glamour side but I reckon Belgium have the team game as well as the firepower to roll them next. The cup winner will be either one of them IMO. The other side of the draw seems to be gutsy, punching above their weight kinds + England. Croatia is having one hell of a cup but I'm not sure how they'll match against a powerhouse.
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Tipped an England vs France final and wouldn't be surprised if the Poms go all the way as this current England side appears mentally tougher and smarter than their past highly overrated teams which not surprisingly always under delivered and failed spectacularly.
Belgium though may put a dent in that tip with their strikepower up front although the French are equally adapt up front with Mbappe, Griezmann, Grioud, Pogba and co.
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As solid a performance that was England have been blessed on the doodle with their draw so far. Croatia (assuming) will be a much tougher affair. Love their old school tactics though. Who says 442 is dead?!
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how do you post videos on here?
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how do you post videos on here?
Post the video link or if it's a short video then convert the vid file to a gif file and post it as an image.
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All about taking your chance(s) in this World Cup where so many goals have come from set pieces. France took theirs and they're through to the final. In the end, one moment of poor defensive marking in the box cost Belgium.
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Surprised Umtiti didn’t try punching it through.
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most of me want the poms to win, but there is a part that would enjoy the melts from those pommy bogan types if it doesnt come home
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Hope the Ustaše get up tomorrow, though the Soap Avoiders winning then getting done by the Frogs in the final would be by far the funniest possible result... :shh
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Ditto. I’m getting sick of #itscominghome.
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Amazing effort from Croatia. Most were totally stuffed at the end. They were the best side by far after half-time and deserved to go through to the final. For a country of only 4 million, they sure have a history of producing a stack of high quality players relative to their population. Even in Australia, Croats have been one of the main ethnic groups when it came to producing players (via Melbourne Croatia/Knights & Sydney Croatia/United).
As for England, in hindsight scoring early didn't help them. They sat back in the second half thinking they could do a France and thinking Croatia wasn't offering much based on the first half. The Croats switched a couple of their mids around and suddenly they clicked into gear and England lost their structure and couldn't switch back on and control the game. A couple of Pommie defenders are going to have nightmares after falling asleep in the box.
France will now be licking their lips. Croatia are gutsy but their path to the final has got to take its toll. It's going to hard for them to recover physically back to their peak after hard fought successive extra-time matches.
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For a country of only 4 million, they sure have a history of producing a stack of high quality players relative to their population.
This is why I can’t stand the back slappers in Australia who make excuses about our national side saying things like we competed well for a small country. Croatia have less than a quarter of our population and have guns like Rakitic, Modric and Lovren. Iceland are what, 300k? They implemented a youth program last generation and are now a very competitive country. It’s a mindset and in Australia we have a forgiving and loser attitude when it comes to Football. We’re like the Dees of the World Game. This is why the Socceroos flopping again in another WC was the worst thing for the game here. We are a developed nation and have no shortage of sport funding. We need a competent and ballsy FFA to move the game forward here.
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:lol
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For a country of only 4 million, they sure have a history of producing a stack of high quality players relative to their population.
This is why I can’t stand the back slappers in Australia who make excuses about our national side saying things like we competed well for a small country. Croatia have less than a quarter of our population and have guns like Rakitic, Modric and Lovren. Iceland are what, 300k? They implemented a youth program last generation and are now a very competitive country. It’s a mindset and in Australia we have a forgiving and loser attitude when it comes to Football. We’re like the Dees of the World Game. This is why the Socceroos flopping again in another WC was the worst thing for the game here. We are a developed nation and have no shortage of sport funding. We need a competent and ballsy FFA to move the game forward here.
It's a more complicated situation here in Australia which other countries don't face.
* We are the only nation in the world with 4 professional football codes with the AFL & NRL dominating culturally. We may have six times the population of Croatia but do we have the numbers invested in the game to the degree they do? We only have 9 professional clubs yet people deludedly talk about large scale expansion, two divisions with promotion & relegation, etc ... because that's the game's culture in Europe. Someone needs to tell them Australia is not Europe/European.
* Our technical skills are some of the worst for a nation that now regularly makes the World Cup. I agree our commentators are back slappers and overrate our performances :facepalm. The Peru loss exposed our terrible technical deficiencies. It's all very well to have high participation numbers amongst kids but if it doesn't translate to teens/adults with world class skills then it's meaningless. Soccer is one of the easiest sports to play but one of the hardest to master. You don't need too much coordination to play a game as a kid or socially but the professional arena requires the elite of the elite skills. It's more important to focus on and provide pathways and technical training for the kids who have the natural ability and skills to eventually make it an elite level than just trying to win a phony "code war" with metrics. (This applies to the current AFL admin as well who are also obsessed with metrics over substance).
* The FFA is suffering from the same disease that previous versions of the game's administration did. Too much a boys club and too Sydney-centric.
* Being in the AFC is good for qualification as it makes it easier but is that hindering our development as a national team? Are we regularly playing the quality of opponents that will make us better to get past the group stage? Japan, Korea & Iran are really the only decent Soccer nations in Asia. It's not hard to qualify. If we were in UEFA say, I'd doubt we would've made the last two World Cups.
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Football's staying away...... :clapping :shh
https://sports.yahoo.com/faces-world-cup-defeat-england-slideshow-wp-212525989/photo-p-england-fan-looks-dejected-photo-212525357.html
:biglaugh :biglaugh :biglaugh
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For a country of only 4 million, they sure have a history of producing a stack of high quality players relative to their population.
This is why I can’t stand the back slappers in Australia who make excuses about our national side saying things like we competed well for a small country. Croatia have less than a quarter of our population and have guns like Rakitic, Modric and Lovren. Iceland are what, 300k? They implemented a youth program last generation and are now a very competitive country. It’s a mindset and in Australia we have a forgiving and loser attitude when it comes to Football. We’re like the Dees of the World Game. This is why the Socceroos flopping again in another WC was the worst thing for the game here. We are a developed nation and have no shortage of sport funding. We need a competent and ballsy FFA to move the game forward here.
It's a more complicated situation here in Australia which other countries don't face.
* We are the only nation in the world with 4 professional football codes with the AFL & NRL dominating culturally. We may have six times the population of Croatia but do we have the numbers invested in the game to the degree they do? We only have 9 professional clubs yet people deludedly talk about large scale expansion, two divisions with promotion & relegation, etc ... because that's the game's culture in Europe. Someone needs to tell them Australia is not Europe/European.
* Our technical skills are some of the worst for a nation that now regularly makes the World Cup. I agree our commentators are back slappers and overrate our performances :facepalm. The Peru loss exposed our terrible technical deficiencies. It's all very well to have high participation numbers amongst kids but if it doesn't translate to teens/adults with world class skills then it's meaningless. Soccer is one of the easiest sports to play but one of the hardest to master. You don't need too much coordination to play a game as a kid or socially but the professional arena requires the elite of the elite skills. It's more important to focus on and provide pathways and technical training for the kids who have the natural ability and skills to eventually make it an elite level than just trying to win a phony "code war" with metrics. (This applies to the current AFL admin as well who are also obsessed with metrics over substance).
* The FFA is suffering from the same disease that previous versions of the game's administration did. Too much a boys club and too Sydney-centric.
* Being in the AFC is good for qualification as it makes it easier but is that hindering our development as a national team? Are we regularly playing the quality of opponents that will make us better to get past the group stage? Japan, Korea & Iran are really the only decent Soccer nations in Asia. It's not hard to qualify. If we were in UEFA say, I'd doubt we would've made the last two World Cups.
I blame an incompetent FFA and the AFL that is hostile to every other sport. Soccer has always had a massive junior participation rate and we would probably have more kids active in the game than some middle to heavy weight Euro countries. This participation needs to be harnessed and developed. There is also a dumb anti ‘wogball’ culture in Australia that seems to hold the game back. This is where this World Cup was another missed opportunity. Australians are a bunch of fair weather supporters when it comes to our national teams and we couldn’t even fire a shot which pretty much ensures the game will be largely forgotten for at least another four years. I’m not expecting much under Arnie. I’m actually expecting us to go backwards and will be surprised if we even qualify for the next one.
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For a country of only 4 million, they sure have a history of producing a stack of high quality players relative to their population.
This is why I can’t stand the back slappers in Australia who make excuses about our national side saying things like we competed well for a small country. Croatia have less than a quarter of our population and have guns like Rakitic, Modric and Lovren. Iceland are what, 300k? They implemented a youth program last generation and are now a very competitive country. It’s a mindset and in Australia we have a forgiving and loser attitude when it comes to Football. We’re like the Dees of the World Game. This is why the Socceroos flopping again in another WC was the worst thing for the game here. We are a developed nation and have no shortage of sport funding. We need a competent and ballsy FFA to move the game forward here.
It's a more complicated situation here in Australia which other countries don't face.
* We are the only nation in the world with 4 professional football codes with the AFL & NRL dominating culturally. We may have six times the population of Croatia but do we have the numbers invested in the game to the degree they do? We only have 9 professional clubs yet people deludedly talk about large scale expansion, two divisions with promotion & relegation, etc ... because that's the game's culture in Europe. Someone needs to tell them Australia is not Europe/European.
* Our technical skills are some of the worst for a nation that now regularly makes the World Cup. I agree our commentators are back slappers and overrate our performances :facepalm. The Peru loss exposed our terrible technical deficiencies. It's all very well to have high participation numbers amongst kids but if it doesn't translate to teens/adults with world class skills then it's meaningless. Soccer is one of the easiest sports to play but one of the hardest to master. You don't need too much coordination to play a game as a kid or socially but the professional arena requires the elite of the elite skills. It's more important to focus on and provide pathways and technical training for the kids who have the natural ability and skills to eventually make it an elite level than just trying to win a phony "code war" with metrics. (This applies to the current AFL admin as well who are also obsessed with metrics over substance).
* The FFA is suffering from the same disease that previous versions of the game's administration did. Too much a boys club and too Sydney-centric.
* Being in the AFC is good for qualification as it makes it easier but is that hindering our development as a national team? Are we regularly playing the quality of opponents that will make us better to get past the group stage? Japan, Korea & Iran are really the only decent Soccer nations in Asia. It's not hard to qualify. If we were in UEFA say, I'd doubt we would've made the last two World Cups.
I blame an incompetent FFA and the AFL that is hostile to every other sport. Soccer has always had a massive junior participation rate and we would probably have more kids active in the game than some middle to heavy weight Euro countries. This participation needs to be harnessed and developed. There is also a dumb anti ‘wogball’ culture in Australia that seems to hold the game back. This is where this World Cup was another missed opportunity. Australians are a bunch of fair weather supporters when it comes to our national teams and we couldn’t even fire a shot which pretty much ensures the game will be largely forgotten for at least another four years. I’m not expecting much under Arnie. I’m actually expecting us to go backwards and will be surprised if we even qualify for the next one.
Every code is hostile to each other. It's been a battle that's been going on for over 100 years. Aussie Rules is the overprotected darling here with the Melbourne media but it is enemy #1 in the Sydney media. The Murdoch media especially appear to just swap the words 'Soccer' and 'AFL' in their anti-articles depending on which city the paper is sold :sleep. The AFL is the fourth-placed footy code in NSW by some distance so it can't be blamed for Aussie Soccer's deficiencies and self-inflicted problems. NSW has the highest participation numbers yet I wouldn't say over our history that it had produced anymore top line world class players than out of Victoria.
Personally, I think the 'wogball' era has passed since the A-League and "new Football" arrived in 2005. It's rarely heard these compared to 30-40 years ago when I was a kid. Being a wog is now cool ;D while the shockjock/tabloid media has moved on from wog bashing to Asian bashing to Muslim bashing to African "gangs". Would the next latest migrant wave move in front of the fearmongering media & politicans' target :whistle. Seriously though, I think what is holding the game back culturally is now more cultural cringe (Eurosnobbery) and apathy. That foreigners will always be far superior to anything Australians can do so who cares if we fail. It's why we still have a foreigner as our head of state ::). Why we can fill ANZ for a David Beckham allstars game yet Sydney FC on a record season winning streak can barely get 10-15k to their games. We seem content to be seen and not heard at the World Cup and then just switch allegiances to the big nations once we're knocked out rather than there being widespread anger and recriminations for the Socceroos' deficiencies and failure to progress. I beat Italians aren't cheering on some other nation at the World Cup because they didn't make it :nope.
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Ahhehehahehahhe not even third.
Belgium look silky on the attack. A shame they copped the tough side of the draw and we won’t be seeing them tomorrow.
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Croatia brave and the better side in general play in the first half but France overall had the finishing skills and all (but one goalkeeper brainfade) of the luck. The French must love VAR now.
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Tim Cahill retires from international football.
https://www.sen.com.au/news/2018/07/17/cahill-retires-from-international-football/
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Emerging Socceroos star Daniel Arzani has officially signed for reigning Premier League champions Manchester City from sister club Melbourne City.
It is expected Arzani will be immediately loaned out to Scottish giants Celtic, after he attended the club’s Champions League qualifying match against AEK Athens at Celtic Park overnight.
https://www.sen.com.au/news/2018/08/09/arzani-seals-move-to-premier-league-giants/
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Mile Jedinak, who captained the Socceroos at two World Cups, has announced he will retire from international soccer.
https://www.smh.com.au/sport/soccer/socceroos-captain-mile-jedinak-retires-from-international-soccer-20181001-p50766.html
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The Matildas have Brazil, Italy & Jamaica in their World Cup group.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2019_FIFA_Women%27s_World_Cup_Group_C
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Aaron Mooy is almost certain to miss Australia’s Asian Cup defence in January after sustaining a knee injury, according to The Australian.
Mooy is reportedly set to miss 4-6 weeks after sustaining the medical ligament injury late in Huddersfield’s 1-0 defeat to Arsenal on Saturday.
The report also states that Celtic midfielder Tommy Rogic is battling a knee injury of his own and could be a doubt for the tournament in the UAE.
https://www.sen.com.au/news/2018/12/11/report-aaron-mooy-set-to-miss-asian-cup/
With Arzani also out with his ACL, we'll be sending our B-side to the Asian Cup at this rate :-\.
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Shockeroos... :facepalm
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#Arnoldout already trending on twitter.
77% possession yet not score :help.
Our smallest mid marking their tallest player at that corner with no one protecting the near post :help.
Continue to play like that and we won't even get out of the group.
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There are only 20 #1 keepers in the EPL and La Liga, the two top leagues in the world. Ryan has been the starting keeper in both making him a world class keeper. Is a gun, we're lucky to have him.
Proved it again in the penalty shootout against Uzbekistan.
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He's not a gun. Reasonable shot stopper on his day though.
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Not Ryan's fault he plays in mediocre teams at both club and international level. Stats wise he's a top line keeper in the EPL. That's more than just reasonable.
No Premier League goalkeeper faced more shots than Ryan last season, 560 in total - an average of almost 15 per game - while his save percentage clocked in at 69.49, ranking him eighth in 2017-18 from those who played 10 games or more.
https://www.skysports.com/football/news/13949/11385223/mat-ryan-the-brighton-and-australia-goalkeeper-charged-with-stopping-frances-forwards-at-the-world-cup
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Well, club level it is champ. If a top line club wanted him to be their #1, he would be.
8th. Cool.
He's a reasonable shot stopper. End of. If he wasn't Australian you would have NFI who he is let alone call him a gun
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Well, club level it is champ. If a top line club wanted him to be their #1, he would be.
8th. Cool.
He's a reasonable shot stopper. End of. If he wasn't Australian you would have NFI who he is let alone call him a gun
Yeah because no one notices players of other nationalities from their own when watching the EPL :rollin. Also there's more to goalkeeping at that level than shot stopping.
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Well, club level it is champ. If a top line club wanted him to be their #1, he would be.
8th. Cool.
He's a reasonable shot stopper. End of. If he wasn't Australian you would have NFI who he is let alone call him a gun
Yeah because no one notices players of other nationalities from their own when watching the EPL :rollin. Also there's more to goalkeeping at that level than shot stopping.
It's a good call and you know it.
You're not going to sit here and tell me you sit up and watch a bunch of EPL on Optus every weekend are you, therefore you know the strengths and weaknesses of every keeper in the PL? Mate, there's a guy who is 3rd choice keeper at Arsenal and currently on loan who is narrowly ahead of Ryan. England's national setup has a couple around his quality and a couple well above him.
Yes, there is more to shot stopping but that's Ryan's best quality. Though some of his distribution can be fantastic on occasion. Other areas of his game leave a bit to be desired at times.
I'm not calling him a dud, he's generally a fine keeper and has done well at Brighton. But this 'gun' talk is nonsense.
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Well, club level it is champ. If a top line club wanted him to be their #1, he would be.
8th. Cool.
He's a reasonable shot stopper. End of. If he wasn't Australian you would have NFI who he is let alone call him a gun
Yeah because no one notices players of other nationalities from their own when watching the EPL :rollin. Also there's more to goalkeeping at that level than shot stopping.
It's a good call and you know it.
You're not going to sit here and tell me you sit up and watch a bunch of EPL on Optus every weekend are you, therefore you know the strengths and weaknesses of every keeper in the PL? Mate, there's a guy who is 3rd choice keeper at Arsenal and currently on loan who is narrowly ahead of Ryan. England's national setup has a couple around his quality and a couple well above him.
Yes, there is more to shot stopping but that's Ryan's best quality. Though some of his distribution can be fantastic on occasion. Other areas of his game leave a bit to be desired at times.
I'm not calling him a dud, he's generally a fine keeper and has done well at Brighton. But this 'gun' talk is nonsense.
Yet you're the one acting as though you're the oracle on all goalkeepers in the EPL. Ryan was considered to replace De Gea at Man U if the latter had left Old Trafford. You come across as a Eurosnob. No matter how good they are, an Aussie will always be classed as inferior to anyone from a traditional soccer superpower. You probably thought Bosnich and Schwarzer were just shot stoppers too. Ryan took a long time to develop and will not go down as a great but to say he isn't a gun now is like saying Vlastuin isn't a gun in our defence because he isn't Luke Hodge. You're playing semantics.
Ospina's best was about 3-4 years ago and he has fallen down the pecking order at Arsenal in the past 12 months. They wouldn't have signed Leno otherwise who has past an aging Cech. That's why Ospina is out on loan to Napoli.
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Degenek :facepalm.
Only got ourselves to blame. If you can't put the ball in the back of the opposition's net and score then you're not going to win too many games. It wasn't just this morning either. In 3 out of our 5 games we went scoreless (Jordan, Uzbekistan and UAE). Pressure now rightly will come down on Arnold who now failed twice to get us past the quarter finals in Asian Cups. It doesn't help that those running the game off-field in the FFA are a shambles. Ange would still be the Socceroos coach otherwise.
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https://www.theage.com.au/sport/soccer/news-to-us-says-ffa-boss-of-arnold-s-scottish-rumour-20190129-p50uba.html#comments
please be true please be true please be true please be true :pray
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Imagine being upset if Graham Arnold walked out on a contract. 65 could run the Socceroos better than that fella
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The opposition would soon wake up to every attack coming from the left side... :shh
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:lol
65 wouldn't even bother with a right back or wide midfielder.....:shh :shh
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https://www.theage.com.au/sport/soccer/news-to-us-says-ffa-boss-of-arnold-s-scottish-rumour-20190129-p50uba.html#comments
please be true please be true please be true please be true :pray
Not going to be sad to see Arnold go if he does but it says a lot about the terrible state of the FFA that even their anointed favourite is also considering leaving.
'To lose one coach may be regarded as a misfortune; to lose two looks like carelessness; to lose three in the space of 12 months is incompetence.'
Ange will be sitting back saying I told you so.
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Ante Milicic is the favourite to lead the Matildas to the Women’s World Cup as interim coach, with Football Federation Australia to make a final decision in coming days.
It’s understood the former Socceroo was approached by the governing body to put his hand up to replace Alen Stajcic on a temporary basis following the hugely contentious sacking last month.
https://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/swoop/ante-milicic-to-take-over-matildas-as-alen-stajcic-axing-festers/news-story/e64ca0f79d671b382e5493cebb5c031d
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The Matildas have gone retro 90s for their World Cup kit.
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/D1Y-6aNVsAAVjt4.jpg)
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The Socceroos will play in the 2020 Copa America.
https://globoesporte.globo.com/futebol/copa-america/noticia/australia-deve-disputar-a-copa-america-de-2020-catar-sera-o-outro-convidado.ghtml
https://www.sen.com.au/news/2019/06/05/report-socceroos-set-to-play-in-2020-copa-america/
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The Matildas coughed up a 1-0 half-time lead to lose 1-2 to Italy in the last minute of injury time :P.
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Great comeback win by the Matildas over Brazil :clapping.
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https://www.theage.com.au/sport/soccer/i-will-be-back-platini-arrested-as-part-of-2022-world-cup-investigation-20190618-p51z0n.html
:shh
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4 goals to Sam Kerr
And the Matildas go through to the last 16
Defeat Jamaica 4-1
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:clapping
The Matildas next play Norway.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2019_FIFA_Women%27s_World_Cup#Bracket
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Sam Cho-Kerr.... :shh
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I hate games being decided by penalty shootouts as it's meant to be a team sport not individual roulette. However, ignoring that, the failure at this World Cup ultimately comes back to head office. Both men's and women's national teams lost their respective head coach within 6 months prior to the Cup. So 4 years of planning and playing a certain gamestyle especially defensively are just thrown out. No team is going to go far in that scenario. The FFA and its culture at the top have a lot to answer for.
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https://www.sen.com.au/news/2019/06/27/report-australia-indonesia-in-talks-over-2034-world-cup-bid/
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The draw for the 2020 Copa America has been released. Australia is one of the invitees.
The Socceroos are in Group A with Argentina, Paraguay, Bolivia, Chile and our old archrival Uruguay. So it will be a good reality check.
13 June 2020 Australia vs Uruguay Estadio Mario Alberto Kempes, Córdoba (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Estadio_Mario_Alberto_Kempes)
17 June 2020 Paraguay vs Australia Estadio Ciudad de La Plata, La Plata (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Estadio_Ciudad_de_La_Plata)
22 June 2020 Australia vs Bolivia Estadio Ciudad de La Plata, La Plata
26 June 2020 Australia vs Argentina Estadio Monumental, Buenos Aires (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Estadio_Monumental_Antonio_Vespucio_Liberti)
30 June 2020 Chile vs Australia Estadio Mario Alberto Kempes, Córdoba
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2020_Copa_Am%C3%A9rica#Teams
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Gonna get our arses kicked
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Seven uncapped players have been named in the Socceroos 31-man squad for four 2022 World Cup qualifiers in Kuwait.
Chris Ikonomidis, Denis Genreau, Ruon Tongyik, Kenny Dougall, Fran Karacic, Riley McGree and Lawrence Thomas will all be vying to make their international debuts when Australia resumes their Asian qualifying campaign next month.
The squad includes 10 A-League players, but star midfield duo Tom Rogic and Aaron Mooy have both been left out.
Australia face Nepal, Taiwan, Kuwait and Jordan between June 4 and June 16.
Goalkeepers: Andrew Redmayne, Mat Ryan, Lawrence Thomas, Danny Vukovic.
Defenders: Aziz Behich, Milos Degenek, Curtis Good, Rhyan Grant, Fran Karacic, Ryan McGowan, Trent Sainsbury, Harry Souttar, Brad Smith, Ruon Tongyik.
Midfielders: Kenneth Dougall, Denis Genreau, James Holland, Jackson Irvine, Connor Metcalfe, Rilely McGree.
Forwards: Brandon Borrello, Martin Boyle, Mitch Duke, Chris Ikonomidis, Apostolos Giannou, Ajdin Hrustic, Matt Leckie, Awer Mabil, Jamie Maclaren, Nikita Rukavytsya, Adam Taggart.
https://www.sen.com.au/news/2021/05/25/seven-uncapped-players-named-in-socceroos-squad-for-wc-qualifiers/
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National team has been destroyed by new football. What a motley bunch this group is.
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First Socceroos game in 567 days.
3-0 win over Kuwait. Ajdin Hrustic (attacking mid at Eintract Frankfurt) the standout :clapping.
https://twitter.com/OptusSport/status/1400569159637901317
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THE ROAD TO QATAR 2022 BEGINS.
Presenting the #AsianQualifiers Final Round Draw Results!
Which teams will make it through? Let us know.
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https://twitter.com/afcasiancup/status/1410498901233262593
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Australia to bid for 2030 or 2034 FIFA World Cup.
https://www.foxsports.com.au/football/world-cup/football-news-australia-to-bid-for-2030-or-2034-fifa-world-cup-latest-news-football-australia/news-story/321dcb7a9a27d8ab31cbf71590d022cf
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The Socceroos have moved up to 35th in the FIFA World Rankings after the latest edition was released on Thursday.
It is the Socceroos' highest ranking in 10 years, back when they were ranked 23rd in the world in 2011.
https://www.socceroos.com.au/news/socceroos-move-fifa-world-rankings-0
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Well that story didn't last long.
FA CEO James Johnson says Australia is not bidding for the FIFA World Cup, but points to 2034 as next opening.
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-08-12/next-chance-to-host-world-cup-in-2034-but-no-bid-yet-says-fa/100373286
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These guys cant even start a 2nd division and they want a world cup lol.
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A perfect start (https://abs-0.twimg.com/emoji/v2/72x72/1f4aa.png)
#AUSvCHN #AsianQualifiers #AllForTheSocceroos
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https://twitter.com/Socceroos/status/1433633348434468868
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Socceroos make it 10 qualifier wins in a row.
1-0 win over Vietnam to stay top of Group B.
Australia 6
Saudi Arabia 6
Oman 3
Japan 3
Vietnam 0
China 0
Top 2 automatically qualify for the World Cup.
Third place to the play-offs (vs 3rd place Group A and then against a North American qualifier).
We've got Oman next up on October 7.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2022_FIFA_World_Cup_qualification_%E2%80%93_AFC_Third_Round#Group_B
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Top 2 automatically qualify for the World Cup.
Third place to the play-offs (vs 3rd place Group A and then against a North American qualifier).
There's every chance of getting out of the group into the top 2. The opponents are not the strongest.
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Blew a chance last night. Japan had been in ordinary form yet we didn't turn up to play especially early on minutes. Defensively we were off with a heap of schoolboy errors. Behich made two howlers that cost us both goals. Only positive was Hrustic's cracking free kick.
We now need to get points against Saudi Arabia (who are now on top of the group) to stay inside the top 2 ahead of Japan.
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Geez that was a shocking performance from the Socceroos last night :facepalm.
Another one Arnie needs to own. The team was out of sync and we didn't have much idea in the final third. We didn't have a shot on target until the 2nd half. Playing a winger as a striker doesn't help. Too much a negative mindset once again and a lack of urgency in the first half. Lucky to not lose it in the last 20 minutes when we couldn't run out the game. We panicked and didn't control possession. Just kept coughing it up in our defensive half. Thank goodness for Matty Ryan. Sure it was very wet but that should've played to our advantage as the Saudis wouldn't have much experience playing in those conditions.
To top off a poor night, Souttar looks to have down his ACL :(.
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Failing to create and take chances in the first half despite dominating possession before falling away again in the second half. Groundhog day! :facepalm.
Socceroos now down to 3rd on the table which would cost us automatic qualification.
Saudi Arabia 16
Japan 12
Australia 11
Oman 7
China 5
Vietnam 0
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2022_FIFA_World_Cup_qualification_%E2%80%93_AFC_Third_Round#Group_B
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Did what we had to do with a 4-0 win. Great to see Rogic bring his Celtic form to the Socceroos. Likewise Boyle from Hibs. However, that 25 minutes after half-time whether it was due to complacency or fatigue in the heat was slop giving a poor team like Vietnam some decent chances. Lucky they didn't score. We won't get away with that rubbish in the remaining three qualifiers if we dish that up again.
ps. VAR once again proving to be a joke. That was a clear goal to us in the first minute. Irvine had no impact on the play nor the goalie. If the refs start paying that as offside then every crowded box for a corner could be classed as interfering with the goalie's line of sight ::).
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Saudi Arabia and Japan won as well so we're still 3rd. We play Oman away on Wednesday morning (3am) while the top 2 play each other.
Saudi Arabia 19
Japan 15
Australia 14
Oman 7
China 5
Vietnam 0
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2022_FIFA_World_Cup_qualification_%E2%80%93_AFC_Third_Round#Group_B
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FMD Matilda’s squandered chances galore
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A pathetic week for our national teams :thumbsdown.
The Matildas are too dependent on Kerr. The talent falls away dramatically after her. No surprise we got bundled out if Sam doesn't do something special.
As for the Socceroos ...
... that 25 minutes after half-time whether it was due to complacency or fatigue in the heat was slop giving a poor team like Vietnam some decent chances. Lucky they didn't score. We won't get away with that rubbish in the remaining three qualifiers if we dish that up again.
Right on cue.
Can't see us qualifying for the World Cup especially while Arnold remains in charge. Once again we revert to a negative mindset trying to sit on one goal leads gifting possession to the opposition even when they are clearly inferior. Just plain dumb :banghead. Add also Arnie taking off our most talented player when we needed to win yet keeping on those who were continually turning the ball over :facepalm. He has to go!
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“WE’RE IN BIG TROUBLE”: BOSNICH TEES OFF AT SOCCEROOS COACH ARNOLD
“We are producing completely robotic players,” the former Socceroo told 1170 SEN Drive.
“Regardless of robotic players or regardless of anything else, you should not be drawing with Oman in an important World Cup qualifier, you should not be drawing with China in an important World Cup qualifier.
“Right now, we’re in big trouble in terms if we come third.
“If we come third my belief, and I’ve said this before, is that we will not qualify. This comes down to the manager.
“I really do think that Football Australia have to have a serious think if we go into the playoff - is Graham Arnold is the right man to lead us into those playoff games?
“After what I have seen during the World Cup qualifiers, as well as the Asian Championships, the answer to that question right now in my opinion is no.
https://www.sen.com.au/news/2022/02/02/were-in-big-trouble-bosnich-tees-off-at-socceroos-coach-arnold/
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The Socceroos will be without star midfielder Tom Rogic for upcoming World Cup qualifiers against Japan and Saudi Arabia.
Rogic was forced off with an ankle injury early in Celtic’s 4-0 win over Ross County on Saturday.
It’s another huge blow for the Socceroos who are already without Aaron Mooy (COVID), Jackson Irvine (COVID), Craig Goodwin (close contact) and Riley McGree (injured) for Thursday night’s clash against the Samurai Blue.
Defender Kye Rowles has also been ruled out after testing positive to COVID-19, while coach Graham Arnold also returned a positive test.
Sydney FC captain Alex Wilkinson and Kuwait-based defender Ryan McGowan have been added to the squad.
https://www.sen.com.au/news/2022/03/22/socceroos-hit-by-further-blow-ahead-of-must-win-world-cup-qualifier/
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Not for tonight's loss but hopefully this means the end of Arnold and his dud negative tactics and gamestyle mentality :thumbsdown that cost us this WC qualifying campaign.
@Socceroos tactic since Graham Arnold took over:
Make a break into the opponent’s half,
Pass it all the way back to Matt Ryan
https://twitter.com/_borisc/status/1506950577963470854
NSW soccer media and key football identities piled on Ange constantly. They wanted their Sydney boy Arnold in charge, so they are getting exactly what they deserve. He plays all his NSW faves.
Now the same NSW people want Arnold gone. What goes around comes around I guess.
https://twitter.com/Kristin542/status/1506955511710687234
:yep
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Oh no ...looks like we won't get to go the World Cup and be knocked out in the first round again.... :shh
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https://www.sen.com.au/news/2022/03/25/why-postecoglou-wont-coach-the-socceroos-again/
Don't blame Ange for not wanting anything to do with Aussie soccer anymore. The Sydney clique inside the sport and in the media only want to give jobs to their mates. Ange was from Melbourne so they shafted him. Just like the NSL/Soccer Australia days this Sydney clique have once again screwed soccer in this country and especially the national teams :thumbsdown.
Speaking of failing to qualify, how about Italy missing out after getting rolled by minnows North Macedonia :gobdrop.
https://www.sen.com.au/news/2022/03/24/disaster-italy-miss-another-world-cup-after-shock-loss-to-minnows/
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'I've given my best': Graham Arnold.
Football Australia is canvassing options about how to approach the sudden-death matches, including sticking with Arnold or sacking him and installing a new coach.
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2022-03-29/socceroos-coach-graham-arnold-under-pressure-following-world-cup/100946814
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Fail
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We've now got to get past UAE and then Peru to qualify. That won't happen if Arnold remains.
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Graham Arnold to remain as Socceroos coach to the end of the World Cup campaign.
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Chair of Football Australia Chris Nikou said in a statement: “The Board of Football Australia believed it was important that we provided a stable environment and to get on with planning for the play-off phase given the very short turn-around.
“By confirming that Graham will remain Head Coach of the Socceroos until the completion of our FIFA World Cup Qatar 2022TM campaign, it enables Graham, his support staff and the playing group to move forward with certainty, and without delay, to ensure the best possible preparation for the next phase of qualification.”
Football Australia CEO James Johnson added: “Graham has Football Australia’s support and after nearly four years in the role, still has the opportunity to finish the job he was appointed to in 2018 and see through his commitment to the national team.
“We now turn our sights to the difficult play-off stage in June, our final opportunity to qualify for the FIFA World Cup Qatar 2022TM.
“As we have done throughout the campaign, we will work closely with Graham to ensure the team has the necessary resources, support and the approach required to achieve the best possible outcome and ultimately qualification to our fifth consecutive FIFA World Cup.”
The Socceroos take on the UAE in Qatar on June 7.
https://www.sen.com.au/news/2022/03/30/arnolds-future-as-socceroos-coach-decided-ahead-of-world-cup-playoffs/
https://www.sen.com.au/news/2022/03/30/arnolds-future-as-socceroos-coach-decided-ahead-of-world-cup-playoffs/
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The official 2022 FIFA World Cup draw has arrived!
Australia will be placed in Group D, should they qualify.
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https://twitter.com/OptusSport/status/1509976992514396163
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We just won the first play-off game 2-1 against UAE.
Our two goals more down to individual moments of brilliance than any great team play. Boyle beats two defenders on the right to get into the box and put it on a platter for Irvine to finish. The second - a late rocket from Hrustic for the winner.
Irvine: https://twitter.com/10FootballAU/status/1534251899561594882
Hrustic: https://twitter.com/10FootballAU/status/1534259838682898435
Arnold leaving Atkinson at RB who was too slow for Al-Mazzi cost us the goal.
Peru now standing in the way of a World Cup spot which will be a much harder task. Unlike tonight, we won't get away with sloppy midfield turnovers nor slow defenders who are easily bypassed by pacey attackers/wingers.
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0-0 at HT.
We've created more attacking opportunities thanks to Boyle on the right wing but we've not been clinical enough in and around the box both in open play and from set pieces. Just too sloppy at critical moments. The positive is we are creating chances and we're still in it.
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Still 0-0. Off the extra-time.
We've had our chances (esp. Behich and Hrustic) but can't yet put the ball in the back of the net :scream.
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Off to Penalties :pray. Lucky to get through ET given the Peruvians hit the post.
Redmayne subbed into goal.
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:woohoo
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I've been a huge critic of Arnold for the negative tactics and gamestyle he used during the Asian qualifiers even against weaker opponents but in the last two playoff games he finally allowed the team to play the ball around and attack more to create a number of chances. It was an odd performance from Peru sitting back and the slow tempo played into our hands but you can only beat what's put up against you and the Socceroos were the better side during regular time and deserved the win. Left our best effort to last thankfully.
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Well done to the team. Didnt think theyd make it.
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Redmayne's winning save from a different angle :thumbsup.
https://twitter.com/tyson_whelan/status/1536464772686049280
The grey wiggle :lol
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https://twitter.com/james_cockman/status/1536461947700670464
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Costa Rica knocked out the Kiwis this morning to grab the final WC spot.
The stage is set. We now know the final 32 teams that are heading to #Qatar2022. 🤩
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https://twitter.com/FIFAWorldCup/status/1536805127834705923
Group D: Socceroos fixture
Local time
22 November 2022 22:00 France vs Australia Al Janoub Stadium, Al Wakrah
26 November 2022 13:00 Tunisia vs Australia Al Janoub Stadium, Al Wakrah
30 November 2022 18:00 Australia vs Denmark Al Janoub Stadium, Al Wakrah
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2022_FIFA_World_Cup_Group_D
Al Janoub Stadium
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The Matildas have drawn Canada, Ireland and Nigeria in Group B of next year's Women's World Cup.
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FfqNJV4UUAE3YAv?format=jpg&name=4096x4096)
https://twitter.com/FIFAWWC/status/1583733581238525953
Thursday, 20th July 2023 Australia vs Ireland Allianz Stadium, Sydney
Thursday, 27th July 2023 Australia vs Nigeria Suncorp Stadium, Brisbane
Monday, 31st July 2023 Australia vs Canada AAMI Park, Melbourne
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2023_FIFA_Women%27s_World_Cup#Group_B
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The 2️⃣6️⃣ players heading to our sixth @FIFAWorldCup 🫡✈️ #GiveIt100 #Socceroos
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https://twitter.com/Socceroos/status/1589846826353852418
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Don’t follow soccer a great deal
But great experience for Kuol
Good decision I reckon
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Don’t follow soccer a great deal
But great experience for Kuol
Good decision I reckon
Agree, Damo.
Well done to Bailey Wright. Not just because he's a Tiger supporter ;D but he deserved a place after his performance against Peru.
Only mindboggling decision is Mitch Langerak missing out :huh3.
I wish Rogic was going too but I understand why he was left out of the squad as he isn't getting any games at West Brom. They won't even sub him off the bench despite them being bottom 3 in the Championship. He's just being wasted there.
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Don’t follow soccer a great deal
But great experience for Kuol
Good decision I reckon
https://twitter.com/Socceroos/status/1591666591988862976
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Don’t follow soccer a great deal
But great experience for Kuol
Good decision I reckon
https://twitter.com/Socceroos/status/1591666591988862976
He’s a freakish talent
Unlike any of our other players .. hopefully he develops into something special
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The 2️⃣6️⃣ players heading to our sixth @FIFAWorldCup 🫡✈️ #GiveIt100 #Socceroos
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FhBFPacaEAAycLT?format=jpg&name=small)
https://twitter.com/Socceroos/status/1589846826353852418
Got to hope Boyle will be okay. His ability to attack the wings and the box with his pace would be a massive loss for the Socceroos :help.
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France striker Karim Benzema will miss the entire World Cup after sustaining an injury while training ahead of France’s campaign in Qatar.
https://www.sen.com.au/news/2022/11/19/france-star-benzema-ruled-out-of-world-cup/
ps. By the way, there's a Tiger flavour with the Socceroos this World Cup. Paddy Steinfort is their high-performance director.
https://www.footballaustralia.com.au/news/football-australia-appoints-paddy-steinfort-performance-director
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Boyle out of the World Cup :(.
https://www.theage.com.au/sport/soccer/devastating-news-boyle-ruled-out-of-world-cup-as-hrustic-cleared-to-face-france-20221120-p5bzsj.html
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AFC teams uncompetitive so far. Not a good sign for us :-\. Qatar struggling was expected as they only got a gig as the host. However, Iran only lost one game in the Asian qualifiers, yet they were ripped apart by England (by the way the Poms were impressive).
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The Saudis just beat Argentina :gobdrop.
Lucky first half with a couple of Argentinian goals disallowed due to VAR (offsides) but in the end the Saudis deserved the win just because they played with a positive mindset and sheer desperation rather than just trying to park the bus.
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We're in front :o. Blow the final whistle :snidegrin.
Nice goal too. Leckie sidestep and cross goal to Goodwin who finished it :clapping.
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Poor defending allowing Rabiot to run into the central box unmarked. It was fun while it lasted.
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And there's the typical Socceroos' schoolboy error in defence gifting the opposition a goal :facepalm. That was the soccer equivalent of the Tiges this year. Normal transmission has resumed :P.
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Yes we're playing France and missing our best attacking/linebreaking player (Boyle) but if Arnold just makes us park the bus in defence when trailing on the scoreboard then we get what we deserve. Witches hats this second half :help.
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Japan knocks off Germany keeping their team structure across the park, applying pressure and playing proactive football (esp. second half).
So that's two AFC teams who had a positive mindset pulling off come from behind massive upsets while the other three who negatively parked the bus (includes us) got flogged anyhow.
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Arnold is not fit to manage a school canteen. Football in this country is cooked.
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Arnold is not fit to manage a school canteen. Football in this country is cooked.
Football in this country isn't cooked , except for stupid rule changes, like the stand rule
Soccer on the other hand is cooked .. if it was ever anything else .. we are, have always been, and will always be, RUBBISH
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We weren't bad at all in the mid 2000s. Our problem is attracting a half decent manager and the way we discourage decent young players from testing themselves in Europe. No one should be playing in a World Cup if they're playing club football in the A-League...unless youre 30 odd and winding down but can still perform.
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We weren't bad at all in the mid 2000s. Our problem is attracting a half decent manager and the way we discourage decent young players from testing themselves in Europe. No one should be playing in a World Cup if they're playing club football in the A-League...unless youre 30 odd and winding down but can still perform.
Or an exciting young talent like Kuol
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Rather see guys like Mabil and Kuol get game time to at least gain some World Cup experience.
For a nation that now makes the World Cup on a regular basis, we have too many blokes with poor technical skills. Even when we play 'smaller' nations, the opposition will often have players with classier skills. It's why we've struggled to barely qualify in recent qualifier campaigns. It appears that junior level coaching is not focused enough on developing & drilling in elite one-touch footskills and as AT said at senior level we no longer have Socceroos playing week in week out against the best players in top European leagues as we did back in 2006. Viduka, Kewell, Cahill, Emerton, Neill, Schwarzer were all in the EPL, Bresciano was in Serie A, Chipperfield played for Swiss side Basel that regularly played Champions League back then. The only Socceroo now who played in the Champions League off the top of my head was Mooy at Celtic.
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Aussies win :clapping puts us into second spot in the group. At least a draw against Denmark will get us into the knockout stage :o.
Group D Pts
France 6
Australia 3
Denmark 1
Tunisia 1
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Upsets galore. Morocco knocked off Belgium :o and Costa Rica (after being flogged by Spain 0-7) with just one shot beat Japan who had just beaten Germany.
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Yes! Leckie! :highclap
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Been a knocker of Arnie but bloody oath the last 2 games have been a joy to watch. Can't wait to see us in the last 16
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Yep. Just wanted Arnold to have us playing with a positive proactive mentality and not just sit back. We did it against Peru and qualified. We did in the last two games and we got through. Sure we rode our luck (first 25 mins tonight was error ridden) but we deserve to be in the final 16 knockout stage. Well done Socceroos :veryhappy :highclap.
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We play the Winner of Group C. Either Poland, Argentina or Saudi Arabia. Poland plays Argentina and the Saudis play Mexico. We'll know at 8am today.
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Argentina it is
Will confess haven't been following it as soccer bores me senseless
But hard not to know what has happened.
So much joy on social media
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Argentina it is
1993 revisited.
Sunday morning at 6am [our time] so at least it's not the middle of the night.
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https://www.sen.com.au/news/2022/12/02/incredible-footage-captures-the-moment-australia-finds-denmarks-secret-hand/
They aren't the most talented team but this current crop of Socceroos sure are cluey lol.
https://twitter.com/MikeKeegan_DM/status/1598010824831995906
Classy by Eriksen to do this after a loss by the way :clapping.
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The Final 16 is set.
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That lucky deflection goal to Goodwin makes up for the brainfade goal we gave away. Can we do the reverse of the Iran 1997 game and get another to equalise in the last 10 mins?
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Lost 1-2. Fought hard but outclassed especially by Messi who ran the show. Our ordinary technical skills cost us and I'm not talking about Matty Ryan's error. Lack of one touch by our field players denies us possession and control of the ball as well as causing unnecessary turnovers which gifts possession to the opposition. As much as this Socceroos team got the most out of themselves in this World Cup, we're not going to improve as a national team into the future if those that run the sport are satisfied with another brave effort.
ps. Good to see Kuol get a run. Almost the hero too.
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Overachieved enormously. Barely expected them to get a point in the group stage and they managed to qualify for the KO stage and go down by 1 goal to one of the favs for the whole thing. Also managed to score against both France and Argentina.
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Same here TK. Didn't see us winning a game once Boyle was injured. Instead, we ended up winning two games and scoring in all four matches.
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The memo about being gracious in victory was missed here.
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England stuff up another World Cup :rollin.
Poor Harry Kane is going to be remembered for that skied penalty miss.
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Now it all makes sense.
https://twitter.com/NoContextBrits/status/1601908834658058240
;D
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https://10play.com.au/theproject/articles/english-company-left-red-faced-after-ordering-18000-world-cup-winner-shirts/tpa221214itayo
Oops! :lol
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I guess one thing we can claim is we only lost to the eventual World Cup finalists - Argentina and France :-\. If Argentina wins then it will be similar to 2006. Knocked out by the eventual World Champions.
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Messi gets his World Cup.
Crazy game in the end. Went from Argentina looking like coasting to a 2-0 win with France not even having one shot to an unbelievable last 15 mins of normal time (2-2), extra time (3-3) and then penalties. Mbappe stiff to score only the second hattrick in a World Cup Final and still lose.
ps. So, just like 2006, the Socceroos were knocked out of the tournament in the Round of 16 by the eventual world champions.
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Amazing drone vision of central Buenos Aires jammed packed with millions of Argentinians celebrating their World Cup win.
https://twitter.com/SportsCenter/status/1604661600987889667
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Correct MT.
the best game of football/soccer you will ever see in your life. I love my afl but we have absolutely nothing compared to that especially with the way the afl compromising everything.
FIFA should be applauded. There is no more dives or very little and for those that run the gauntlet a yellow card awaits.
Also so much for the woke who complained about Qatar hosting. Well It was by far the best WC ever seen. Much better than than i went to in Brazil. Outside of watching Timmy Cahill v Holland in that famous 3/2 match that had nothing on this WC from a soccer perspective. Obviously atmosphere a lot better that that hole.
Shame the A league is useless. If only soccer was propped up like the afl is.
Messi GOAT in the same category now as Tiger, Fed, Lebron, Dusty etc Game over.
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Socceroos up to 27 in the FIFA rankings according to ESPN.
https://www.espn.com.au/football/fifa-world-cup/story/4835050/brazil-still-ranked-as-fifas-no-1-despite-argentina-winning-the-world-cup
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Over 5 million people out in the streets ,highways of Argentina celebrating the World Cup Champions.
https://twitter.com/marcelobalboa17/status/1605266709991940096
Wow!
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Graham Arnold was on Monday confirmed to continue on with the Australian national side, with a four-year deal announced by Football Australia.
https://www.sen.com.au/news/2023/01/30/i-just-love-them-arnold-opens-on-contract-extension-with-the-socceroos/
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Barely six months after forming a crucial part of Australia's World Cup campaign, Socceroos midfielder Aaron Mooy has announced his retirement from all forms of the sport.
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https://www.abc.net.au/news/2023-06-30/aaron-mooy-shock-retirement-celtic-socceroos/102548994
His last injury playing for Celtic affected his performances. He was in career best form prior to that not only at Celtic but also for the Socceroos during the World Cup. Enjoy your well-deserved retirement, Aaron :clapping.
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https://twitter.com/TheMatildas/status/1675723037226987520
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Matildas won 1-0 over Ireland via a penalty. Ordinary performance in the final third without Kerr (calf). Take the 3 pts and move on.
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That was a super ordinary spectacle. Hopefully the quality improves.
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Ireland played an extremely boring ultra defensive game for 3/4 of that match, regularly played a deep 5/5 or 5/4/1 defence regardless whether they were attacking or defending.
By sitting so deep in their half even when attacking they cut off our speed on the wings with Vine, Carpenter etc
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Matildas lost 2-3 to Nigeria after being 1-0 up :P. The focus from the commentators was on all the injuries to our first 11 forwards. But we lost the games in the back half. All 3 goals conceded due to poor defensive lapses. The last one was U9s stuff :facepalm. The first one just before half-time changed the momentum of the game. Why when we're 1-0 up with a minute or two to go before the break would our defensive mids press up hard too offensively leaving us exposed behind them. The dumbest thing was we got barely away with it once and then we did the same stupid thing straight away and coughed up the goal :banghead.
The Matildas are now third and will struggle to get out of the group needing to beat Canada without our primary forwards available. In any case, if we play like we have so far in the first two games, we won't get through anyway. The first half bar the last two minutes was fairly good, but the second half was listless, sloppy and dysfunctional. Most of the team was often standing on the spot, flat-footed and reactive. Only in the last 10 minutes with us 1-3 down did we show any urgency and intensity but despite getting one back it was too late. Just not good enough.
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Matildas not choking in Olympics or World Cup challenge: Impossible :shh
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Sam Kerr is available to play Canada but hasn’t confirmed the minutes she’ll play 48 hours out from the must-win clash.
https://www.sen.com.au/news/2023/07/29/sam-kerr-reveals-shes-available-to-play-canada-in-must-win-clash/
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No Kerr no Matildas.
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Matildas 2-0 at half-time. Should be 3. Technically off-side via the technology (by half a heel), but no way before VAR would or should that be called. That would've been paid a goal for 150 years before VAR.
Kerr on the bench. Matildas will only sub her on if they need her.
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Matildas 4-0 over Canada as well as finish top of the Group. Kerr not needed, so she gets another week to rest that calf and get it right. A perfect result tonight :thumbsup.
We play in the final 16 the runner-up of Group D (England, Denmark, China or Haiti) up in Sydney.
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Watched the last 15 minutes
Soccer just isn't my thing, just don't get it
But I'm disappointed I missed the Canadian player going of her head and calling the ref a tw-t
Saw it on Twitter (or X as it's been rebranded)
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Very good performance in a high pressure game. Onto the KO stages.
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Watched the last 15 minutes
Soccer just isn't my thing, just don't get it
But I'm disappointed I missed the Canadian player going of her head and calling the ref a tw-t
Saw it on Twitter (or X as it's been rebranded)
Oh heard that clear as day but didnt know who she directed it to, she also dropped a f bomb in there
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Watched the last 15 minutes
Soccer just isn't my thing, just don't get it
But I'm disappointed I missed the Canadian player going of her head and calling the ref a tw-t
Saw it on Twitter (or X as it's been rebranded)
Oh heard that clear as day but didnt know who she directed it to, she also dropped a f bomb in there
Oh yes the f-bomb ..it was priceless
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Watched the last 15 minutes
Soccer just isn't my thing, just don't get it
But I'm disappointed I missed the Canadian player going of her head and calling the ref a tw-t
Saw it on Twitter (or X as it's been rebranded)
Oh heard that clear as day but didnt know who she directed it to, she also dropped a f bomb in there
Oh yes the f-bomb ..it was priceless
https://twitter.com/me_dc/status/1685975848506310656
AAMI Park being a smaller boutique stadium means the sound mics pick up most things said :laugh:.
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The Matildas will play Denmark in the Round of 16 next Monday night.
https://twitter.com/TheMatildas/status/1686362984669671424
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Lacklustre first 20 mins by the Matildas but the goal against the run of play woke us up. Fowler's through ball to Foord was sublime :clapping.
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Matildas win 2-0 (Foord & Raso the goalscorers) and through to the Quarterfinals against either France or Morocco. Pretty much controlled the game once we took the lead. Happy to sit back and hit Denmark on the counter.
ps. Kerr was subbed on for the last 10 mins and blew out the cobwebs. We haven't needed her as yet.
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Matildas win 7-6 on penalties!!! :highclap
:phew
That was crazy. Up to 10 penalties shots for each team before it was decided.
Very, very lucky tonight. Last 50 mins of general play was rubbish. We just kept hoofing the ball away and giving France possession and territory. Then we missed two opportunities to win it during the penalties. Vine nailed the third chance to send us through.
Onto the semis for the first time :clapping.
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Tilllys!!!! So proud of this outfit. Soccer is actually the only football I can play so I’m loving the country get around them. They’ve exceeded my expectations already so I’m just pumped to ride the wave
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The Matildas will play England in the semi-final in Sydney on Wednesday night.
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I will put my hand up and say I'm one of the few who didn't watch
Don't get me wrong I'm incredibly proud but just sitting through 2 or so hours of no scoring ..well I just can't do it.
Soccer isn't my thing, I've tried and just don't get it.
But....
Well Done Matildas, you've done us proud
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so what happened to this game being televised at the G last night for its entirety? Lucky we had access to a bar on level 2 to watch the whole thing.
They didn't even have it showing on the little screens on level 2 after the 90 mins which was well before the blues/dees game had started.
Terrible call, but surely someone has got involved with that late decision. :shh
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so what happened to this game being televised at the G last night for its entirety? Lucky we had access to a bar on level 2 to watch the whole thing.
They didn't even have it showing on the little screens on level 2 after the 90 mins which was well before the blues/dees game had started.
Terrible call, but surely someone has got involved with that late decision. :shh
Surely it was Albo or Dictator Dan's fault.
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so what happened to this game being televised at the G last night for its entirety? Lucky we had access to a bar on level 2 to watch the whole thing.
They didn't even have it showing on the little screens on level 2 after the 90 mins which was well before the blues/dees game had started.
Terrible call, but surely someone has got involved with that late decision. :shh
Surely it was Albo or Dictator Dan's fault.
Fish rots from the head. :shh
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so what happened to this game being televised at the G last night for its entirety? Lucky we had access to a bar on level 2 to watch the whole thing.
They didn't even have it showing on the little screens on level 2 after the 90 mins which was well before the blues/dees game had started.
Terrible call, but surely someone has got involved with that late decision. :shh
AFL asked FIFA if the game could be shown up until the Blues-Dees game started. FIFA said only if the whole game is shown on the big screen including if it ran overtime. The MCC stepped in and told FIFA it is their big screen and they had no legal power to tell the MCC what to do. So, the big screen cut off after 90 mins, but it was still shown on some little screens at the MCG during the game as there's footage of Blues & Dees fans celebrating Vine's winning penalty.
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so what happened to this game being televised at the G last night for its entirety? Lucky we had access to a bar on level 2 to watch the whole thing.
They didn't even have it showing on the little screens on level 2 after the 90 mins which was well before the blues/dees game had started.
Terrible call, but surely someone has got involved with that late decision. :shh
Surely it was Albo or Dictator Dan's fault.
Fish rots from the head. :shh
Both got to go
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A lab mate is a blues fan and he said no one was watching the blues/dees game. everyone was either fixated on their phones or a small screen around the G.
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Heart breaking loss. I guess you gotta lose a final before you can win one. Still awfully proud of this outfit for galvanising australia
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Brilliant goal by Kerr.
Backline a bit of a letdown IMO, gave them some easy opportunities and too much space.
England also defended very well.
Well done girls done us proud. More heart than some of our tigers
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Heart breaking loss. I guess you gotta lose a final before you can win one. Still awfully proud of this outfit for galvanising australia
Need to actually make the final first. :shh
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In the first half we were too slow and reactive. Better in the second half but all night we suffered at both ends from a lack of cohesion and polish and England made us pay for our numerous defensive brainfades.
Missed Alanna Kennedy big time in defence tonight. We were all over the shop down back and it felt like England were targeting the shorter Polkinghorne who replaced the taller Kennedy. Carpenter had an ordinary game too. Any flaws get exposed at this stage of the tournament and all up all 3 goals we conceded were gifted away due to junior level mistakes. That second goal conceded was U12s stuff :P. Likewise, the third was simply not picking up the obvious run of Russo despite us having more numbers :facepalm. Just a horror show in the back half. You can't win any game dishing up that schoolyard crap let alone a semi-final against a good well-drilled opponent. The second goal though was the game killer. Just sucked the life out of the team and the crowd. After Kerr's wonder goal we had gained the momentum too and then just so easily and stupidly gifted it and the match away :scream.
A great cup run by the Matildas all up but sadly a missed opportunity.
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couldn't agree more Kane :clapping
https://www.news.com.au/sport/football/world-cup/afl-great-says-the-reaction-to-horrific-matildas-act-was-soft/news-story/b34dd79488365b861d73621ba112df4a
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couldn't agree more Kane :clapping
https://www.news.com.au/sport/football/world-cup/afl-great-says-the-reaction-to-horrific-matildas-act-was-soft/news-story/b34dd79488365b861d73621ba112df4a
I agree re: their defending.
Gave them way too much space and didn't close the gaps and get physical when needed
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Sam Kerr's goal commentated in Spanish by Andres Cantor.
https://www.theroar.com.au/soccer/video/must-listen-this-south-american-call-of-that-sam-kerr-goal-is-sheer-perfection-1299096/
GOALLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLL! :thumbsup
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Matildas lost 0-2 to Sweden tonight to finish 4th in the World Cup.
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lmao
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they were so brave in defeat.
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After a 2-2 friendly draw with 12th ranked Mexico, the Socceroos remain in 27th spot in the latest FIFA Men's Rankings.
However, Australia is now the fourth best ranked AFC nation after Korea Republic (26), IR Iran (21) and Japan (19).
Graham Arnold's men face England and New Zealand in next month's October window.
https://www.fifa.com/fifa-world-ranking/men?dateId=id14142
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Bound for Qatar! ✈️🇶🇦
Graham Arnold has named his 26-player squad for our #AsianCup2023 campaign! 💪
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https://www.socceroos.com.au/news/subway-socceroos-afc-asian-cup-qatar-2023tm-squad-revealed-0
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Might be the only time Australia get a pitch this green against India in Asia. #AFCON2023
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https://twitter.com/wutube/status/1746140266132906008
:snidegrin
On the actual game, the Socceroos played pretty crap against a weaker opponent but did enough to get the win. Hopefully just blowing out the cobwebs.
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I know this was two days ago but what a shocking way for the Socceroos to exit the Asian Cup. Arnold's 'tactics' in the last 10 minutes of regular time played right into South Korea's hands for them to equalise. Mind you it's not all the coach's fault when our forwards miss heading the ball into an open goal from 2m out which would've killed off the game :facepalm. Australian players' poor technical skills compared to their peers in the AFC is embarrassing.